April 22/18


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Today's Quote April 22/2018

Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment.
Will Rogers

Oswego Rotting Under Barlow Administration
Has anyone noticed all of the infrastructure improvements under the Barlow administration? The influx of new business and an increased tax base?
Young professionals choosing Oswego as their home? An increase in tourism? (think: 1.5 million dollar cannons on display and then look at the condition of the one in front of city hall now) Transparency and accountability to the resident taxpayers? A HUD inspector who isn't a rubber-stamper for the slumlords that own this town? (He will be held accountable 1st in a court of law when the State investigates the next tenant death in a slumlord dwelling that should have been condemned NOT approved. After he's indicted he'll be Oswego's most famous whistle blower)
Phony property tax valuations and manipulations, either grossly over or undervalued, depending on who owns the property. Way too much graft for this City to finance. Barlow early in his administration made a show of getting "tough" on slumlords (his word) Reality is the slumlords are Billy's best friends forever.
                                                                                                                             April 22/18


Trump Fundraiser Offered Russian Gas Company Plan to Get Sanctions Lifted for $26 Million

                                                                                                                             April 22/18

City Hall Corruption...Follow the Money
One has to wonder how the proposed condo located at the intersection of West 1st St and Bridge Street (City of Oswego) could be eligible for $700,000 in grant money for Avery? The grant proposals for the money coming from the state and the awards were listed well over a year ago. Avery purchases the old Global Buffet Building a few months ago and is now approved for $700,000 in grant money over night. Could the secret meeting in the Mayors office have anything to do with promises made for that purchase, if grant money approval was given in advance of the purchase? Then, there is the question, who in their right mind would want to live on the busiest and noisiest intersection in the city of Oswego. Where will the parking be and has a parking plan been approved by planning board? Certainly the Planning Board will give their approval regardless if it meets the codes or not. Standard procedure for them
Why don't we just follow the theoretical money trail and let the corruption speak for itself. The following contributions were made to the Barlow campaign and who benefited from them.
Bell...$350..got the job as head of Code Enforcement, allowing him to ignore building permits for certain people, asbestos inspections and dumping permits in the middle of the city and on certain personal property. Put windows in his car wash without building permit.
Reynolds...$200..got to keep his job as Assistant City Attorney
Barlow family..$2,400..had thousands of dollars( estimate of $25,000 in labor and materials) in new sidewalks and new driveway apron. Did this in cahoots with Gosek, 5th ward Councilor.
Scheindiner..$2,000..One might want to inquire where Avery got his loan?
Broadwell...$1,500..Got grant for $1,000,000 for water slide.
Kells...$5,000..Got job as DPW Commissioner, $75,000 plus Benefits, selling city lumber illegally, removing city property which he thinks it is his, hired son for mowing contract, hired girlfriend and gave her new city truck to drive and not following city policy on other hires..so much more on this guy to come.
Avery..$1,000...needs no explanation...
Pauldine...$5,000..Got the old Cahill Building for much less than value, then got $1,000,000 grant for the Cahill Bld and that dump on the corner of W Bridge. Was in cahoots with Gosek Sr.and Turner when they gave him a contract for $10,000 a year of taxpayers money to use the hallway in his Canal Commons. Now he has the old YMCA Bld and his buddy Bell is turning a blind eye as head of code enforcement regarding the illegal activities on that building.
Caraccioli...$500...Got City Attorney Job, Barlow had it made full time with a raise and full benefits, Caraccioli is actually running the city as little boy Barlow doesn't have a clue. There is more to this saga, but for a latter date.
Corradino...$198...Barlow pushed to have him made council president...
Stepien...$750...Got contract for the city web site with his group called Step One Creative LLC.. he used to work for Schiediner at the bank.... Also got contract with Port throuh this contact. gets thousands a year on this deal.
Holman...$250....was appointed by or. Barlow to be chair of the City Ethics Board...seems a bit unethical.
As we move along looking at the corruption of this city, the next look will be at the Community Development Department and the people who are working there. Nepotism and political greed and the extraordinary cost of that department, along with the questionable grants and what they are used for. Also a look at the discrimination coming from the Section 8 Rental assistance program.
More to come......
                                                                                                                             April 22/18

This might be new for thought…

Why not worry about the taxes at the local level first !

Some of the greed does start at the bottom and work up, unless you were you were born into greed !

After all , Tells, bell, avery, goey, broad well, fall into the power control list !

And ever notice the type of vehicles that park in front of the food bank on east 4th street to collect food ? I could be wrong, but these vehicles look not that old and are these needy people or greedy people ? I thought that people who were in need of food , did not drive late model cars and trucks ! And oswego needs a water park ?

Want to do a temp patch on pot holes that will hold ?, use “runaway patch “ reaches 5000 psi in five minutes . We use that product on Airport Runways ! Of course, Mr Kells, Mr Bell, Eng. Dept. and code enforcement never heard of this application ! This City is behind 50 years in construction, but 50 years ahead in political greed !
                                                                                                                             April 22/18

I am still wondering if the Council passed a resolution to remove the fence in front of City Hall. Where is the fence now? Was there a resolution to sell the fence? If so, where is the money gained from that sale? Or did the fence wind up on someone’s property? Why does the Council tolerate the many things that happen in Oswego that if not illegal are certainly not ethical. Did the ethics board ever investigate itself? And finally, why is the Oswego Pall Times unwilling to investigate the corruption this city is famous for?
                                                                                                                             April 22/18








Today's Quote April 21/2018

Gratitude is when memory is stored in the heart and not in the mind. Lionel Hampton
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Gratitude is when memory is stored in the heart and not in the mind. Lionel Hampton
Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/lionel_hampton

Gratitude is when memory is stored in the heart and not in the mind. Lionel Hampton
Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/lionel_hampton

Gratitude is when memory is stored in the heart and not in the mind.

Lionel Hampton




The pothole machine that the City rented in 2015 was rented under the Gillen administration. But it was Kell's big idea. Kell's at the time was working for the city not doing the job he was hired to do and stepping on others toes! Makes me wonder why this big time republican was hired under a Democratic mayor and allowed to over step boundaries! He also had Mayoral election signs for both the candidates running back in 2016 in his garage on east tenth street! Must be nice to be able to play both sides! Wake up people of Oswego before it is to late! Time for some big time changes!
                                                                                                                             April 21/18

Re: Lame Duck Drug Story
If I remember correctly, doesn't Jennie admit on the stand at the Hearing that Rog used to sometimes pay her with drugs for babysitting? Which would have been Before they "got together"? So she in Fact knew Rog in 1994. Her deception when asked if she knew any of them is proof that she Did. That and from the sheer number of people who knew. HHmm. Wonder if there are any validated photos of her with any of the characters from 1994?

The only arrest Gary had about any drugs was the supposed residue found in the motel room in MA. PPFFT. Drug trafficker who got 60 days time served? On what planet? Oh, I bet there is another reason law enforcement had a hard on for Gary when they realized he was Richards brother. Seems like someone who owns a business right near an airport and has ties to another country would be more likely to be a trafficker than someone living like Gary did. js Don't forget the time Gary and Sharon were being surveilled.

Baldasaro and McDonald had the same lawyer representing them. Wonder what deal McDonald got. Wonder if that lawyer, if alive, has been deposed about Oakes' lie that neither inmate received any benefit. Wonder if the lie would have any effect on the Court's determination to exonerate or order a new trial. Considering that the inmates were working as an agent for law enforcement and Gary didn't have the ability to exercise his right to be questioned in the presence of counsel, would that be sole grounds to order a new trial?

So many difficult questions. We will see what happens in 6 days.
                                                                                                                             April 21/18


INTERESTING TIMING FROM THE SENATE MINORITY LEADER ... @SenSchumer: "It's official. Today, I am formally announcing my plan to decriminalize marijuana at the federal level. It's time we allow states, once and for all, to have the power to decide what works best for them. ... I have long believed that states should function as their own laboratories of democracy. My bill is a step in the right direction aimed at removing the barriers to state legalization efforts. ...
"So why have I changed my stance? Looking at the numbers helped. 2/3 of Americans believe marijuana should be legalized, meanwhile more than half of all drug arrests in the United States are marijuana arrests." (Check today's date
                                                                                                                             April 21/18

157-9 Liberty St
Can tell me why the HUD office was moved from a City building to an apartment house owned by some slumlord? Check OCRPS and you may be amazed to find that neither address is listed on the tax rolls. It's possible that they are there however for some reason they are blocked from public access view. Would HUD be interested in knowing who owns the building and why the office was moved? Well whether or not they're interested I sent all relevant info to HUD in Albany and DC. (and Chuck Schumer too) LOL
                                                                                                                             April 21/18


Where Do They Live ?
If some of them live outside city limits or outside the county of oswego, ny , then how do they vote on contract monies ?

How does Kells vote on city monies ,when he lives in scribe ?

How does the city Att. let this happen ?

How does the aldermen let this happen ?

How does the code dept. look the other way ?

How does A .Pauldine get away with NO ASBS Inspection ? And the planning, code, engineering and dog lic office, are not involved ?

We are screwed !
                                                                                                                             April 21/18






Today's Quote April 20/2018

No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change the world.
Robin Williams

Lame Duck Drug Story!!
I was just going over Wescott's interrogations and her lie detector video. I agree the lame story about drugs with the Thibodeau's, is useless, after watching her video and she blames the Thibodeau's about where she was buying her drugs she says even after Thibodeau was interrogated she continued to buy drugs off him, right Wescott, seeing as they were staking out Gary's home the night Heidi vanished and if any one has any knowledge of any interrogation with Gary Thibodeau post it here, because there from the records does not seem to be one. I wonder how she bought drugs all the way through when he was in Massachusetts the entire summer of 1994. Also I would love for her to explain if he was such a monstrous drug dealer, why is it when his property was searched on two separate occasions and why they never found a drop of drugs. Why is it he and Sharon would need help from social services if he was rolling in the dough off drug money. I have to admit, I to thought maybe if he wasn't involved in the kidnapping maybe it was the drugs but to look at all the facts there isn't even a drop of any drug's collected off Gary's property during either arrest or search. Lame duck drug story Wescott and how many trips did you have to take to Massachusetts to get drugs from the jail in which Gary was being held at? I agree one week til' Gary's appeals and I hear it is not going to go the way she or they hope it will. Tick tock your damn clock's are almost out of time. You all best pray for a "Manna from Heaven" to save your "NOT" sorry lying asses!!
                                                                                                                             April 20/18



Do these people live inside or out side the city limits of oswego, ny ?

Where does the super of the oswego city school district live ?

Get the pattern of greed ?
                                                                                                                             April 20/18


The pothole machine that the City rented in 2015 was rented under the Gillen administration. But it was Kell's big idea. Kell's at the time was working for the city not doing the job he was hired to do and stepping on others toes! Makes me wonder why this big time republican was hired under a Democratic mayor and allowed to over step boundaries! He also had Mayoral election signs for both the candidates running back in 2016 in his garage on east tenth street! Must be nice to be able to play both sides! Wake up people of Oswego before it is to late! Time for some big time changes!
                                                                                                                             April 20/18

Loser on Lion
Unhealthy addiction. Please bud get a life, if you can not be a positive figure in the community it is you that should seek mental health. Sorry excuse for a citizen, has to work so much you claim you have no time to pay attention. Then why is your sorry ass of the lion? Right.....excuses are like assholes we all have one..we will just consider you the sap typing from momma's basement.

                                                                                                                             April 20/18

Forgot One
Every new piece of equipment the DPW gets is another kickback.
                                                                                                                             April 20/18






Today's Quote April 19/2018

Better remain silent, better not even think, if you are not prepared to act.
Annie Besant

Are The Cannons Still In Town?
When's the last time anyone saw the million dollar cannons at the city yard? Are they still there? Are they secured or not? If not secured then it's to allow them to disappear more easily and blame it on professional "cannon thieves"? LOL
                                                                                                                             April 19/18

Barlow & Kells
I don’t know how you people on here think barlow is some nice guy that is getting a bad name from Kells. He sold Kells the job for 5 grand. All the contracts that are going to private contractors for snow removal and what else are just opportinitys for kickbacks and bribes. Barlow went from working carnivals for peanuts to sitting on his ass collecting 45 grand a year. He is a fresh young face and behind him are the same old crooks.
                                                                                                                             April 19/18

Only $49 thousand for a load of hardwood logs?

That was a small load, couldn't have been more than 3-4 logs. A full truck is carrying around $100k worth.
City's Illegal Hardwood Scam
                                                                                                                             April 19/18

In summation

This article: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1957&dat=19940726&id=


 really seems to sum up the bogus case against the Thibodeau’s

Second paragraph-now has been twisted in some people’s mind that Heidi informed on Gary. “Nothing to show Heidi knew about Gary’s alleged drug activities” “Spoke to police about an unrelated drug case two years ago.” This article was July 26, 1994 and Dodd claims in December 1994 Hearing that he’s not aware of Heidi being a CI? OK…Either he lied in open court, never read the news and asked the popos about Heidi informing, or the popos weren’t turning over information/documents to the DA’s office. Course that has also been exposed as Sergeant Lortie wrote a report in April 1994 about being witness to Heidi “signing up”. And what was Dodd’s response to the Lortie report? How anyone believes the DA’s office position on the Thibodeau’s after all that has been public is beyond me.

If law enjokement was 99.9% sure if Gary’s guilt based on “the inmates knew facts…blah, blah, actually spoken to Thibodeau”, WHY WAS THERE No physical evidence at Gary’s property if he “confessed”? They had unlimited access to his property. The article clearly says a search was done while he was in jail on the warrant and another search resulted in the furnace being confiscated. Now we know that one search was done with cadaver dogs and grid searching of his property. 2 searches, 99.9% sure, but no physical evidence for their belief.?. Course this article was before the inmates testified to listening to Gary’s phone conversations and then asking him questions about what they overheard. But any unbiased person or person who was actually in the courtroom and heard the entire inmates testimony would have known “how they knew things”.

LIARS-Baldasaro IN FACT got a deal for testifying. There are plenty of copies of Dodd’s exposed lie floating in cyberspace.

“Drug trafficking on fugitive warrants” “60 days in jail” For drug trafficking? MA must have been pretty lax on such a serious crime?

“The brothers fit the description….blah, blah” but all he describes is “husky” and about as tall as Heidi. In another article, the witness had as yet picked the brothers from a photo lineup. Seems to have been much more time spent on getting said witness to point to the van that had no evidence of Heidi “ever” being in it than getting a positive ID.

Interesting to note….”bulldozer arrived at site late Monday…” as compared to “small excavator” at site similar to Steen’s confession AFTER the ME was done with their examination. Why the difference? A bulldozer to assist with finding evidence vs a small excavator to destroy evidence….? There were no alerts from 6 dogs on Gary’s property vs 3 alerts in an area similar to Steen’s description. And what’s up with the DA publicly blaming a reporter and investigator for disturbing the area when 2 others signed statements to police days before the forensic dig began accepting responsibility of disturbing and also the enjokements position that “There are no cabins. Never were.”?

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE DA’S BIG PICTURE?? #freegary April 26, 2018 is fast approaching. Are you ready?

P.S. Want to find the missing? Don’t give up just like the family and loved ones of Tammy Mahoney, Larry Stackhouse Jr., Guy Pyke, and many others.
                                                                                                                             April 19/18

They will never get rid of the ambulance cause it is a free ride to doctors appts and Syracuse hospitals for the retired and working firefighters and there families. They are never billed and no record is kept.
                                                                                                                             April 19/18

Policy , Thank you for saying the truth
Who are the liars in this game . Barlow, tells, bell, rudrick, pauline, broad well ( both of them ) , aldermen, ( always pay by check ) .

And at this time , I would like to thank the police dept., the aldermen, mayor’ s office , dpw, the oswego school board , teachers union, among others, for NOT DOING JACK $hit !

Building construction, demo, proper construction site control, silt control, asb. inspection, proper postings visible from the street, and yet private people get called out, but pauldine does not ?code at the old YMCA, and there should never be taxpayers monies used to benefit a non for profit , ( as snow removal, building construction cost, as too which is what is happening ! City of oswego, ny is paying for the rehab at the old YMCA, is that okay for you busy person ? If YOU are too busy to care, then you must work at the oswego library , or a public school drop out !

Please, call your aldermen and new york state AG to inform them of the greed in oswego, ny and some people that are to busy to just to be bothered !
                                                                                                                             April 19/18

People Like Me
Lol. Please seek help. You sound like you have an unhealthy obsession.
                                                                                                                             April 19/18

City Hall Looks Like Shit
What a dump! Boy you can really see the effects of rampant corruption and graft that IS Oswego politics. We have a serious cash bleed. It seems that most of the City's proceeds are going directly into the pockets of our corrupt city officials. Nothing new, the only thing that's new is the level of corruption. It has surpassed that of all previous administrations. By "previous" I mean "official" administrations. We all know that the 90% majority Republican former city officials are still active players in the fleecing of Oswego. When everyone is on the take you won't find too many whistle blowers.
                                                                                                                             April 19/18






Today's Quote April 18/2018

The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop.
P. J. O'Rourke

Well another big waste of money by the City of Oswego, the pothole machine. It just doesn’t work yet Kell’s, Barlow and the city’s purchasing department fell for it. The problem is that the machine mixes stone with a sticky tar like material so when you’re car drives over it it sticks to the tires and pulls the material out of the hole. That’s the reason you see them using it on very small holes that don’t even make a difference. They hired a company to come and do the same thing a few years back and if you remember it didn’t work then. But this new administration wasn’t around back then so instead of asking long time employees if it worked they lay them off instead. The result, back to ground zero and a huge waste of money. If you would like to see what l’m talking about take a ride to the lookout next to the McCrobie building (anyone that lives up there knows what I’m talking about) they tried to use the machine on the creators in the road and the stone is now just all over the place, they even tried to hide the fact that it didn’t work by using cold patch for the large holes like they have always done. You can only hope they got a money back guarantee because I bet this thing cost in the $200,000,00 range. The salesman for the machine had to be laughing all the way back to the office.
                                                                                                                             April 18/18

City Running Cash Only Business
I recently renewed my dog license and noticed the "No Credit or Debit Cards" sign. After I paid my fee and was NOT given or even offered a receipt I immediately wondered WHO is in charge of balancing the books. Payments to City v. SKIMS? This may explain the mystery cars in town. A cash only city business model? Money laundering, skimming off the top, kickbacks,bribes,slush fund and "petty cash" are all highly reminiscent of ORGANIZED CRIME operations. Let's not forget the biggest scam in town after the tax code is the city "tree gang". Every time you see hardwood logs stacked with codes indicating type of wood at the city yard or ANYWHERE around town these logs are awaiting pick-up by out of state lumber mills. The City has never in over 150 years EVER recorded the thousands of dollars collected for EACH load picked up.How do I know? I worked under a former DPW head,who paid CASH for a brand new P/U truck with $ from hardwood sales,and he gave me the long history of the practice as we watched a lumber truck from Ohio load $49k dollars worth of Black Walnut, White Ash, Butternut (White Walnut) and any other 30' foot long hardwood log worth a dime onto the truck.With Kells in charge I'm surprised he hasn't deforested Oswego by now. So next time the city cuts down a tree on YOUR property tell them that you'll sell the wood yourself!! If they threaten to fine you for the "mess" in your yard call a lawyer from ANOTHER county.
                                                                                                                             April 18/18

Policy? Really!!!
Most don't have time. But those paying attention care about tax payer money. How it's spent and utilized. Those who do pay attention you owe a debt of gratitude to. Guess who pays for their asses their pay checks, gas, and added expenses, tax payers. Including you. But it's obvious by the string of events, people like you are to blame on why The American Legion post 358 was missing an undisclosed amount of money from 5 to 6 seperate accounts, the Oswego city chief stole 3,000 bucks in gas alone, misses of 20,000 out of minetto fire dept, also did not keep track or account for funds raised at the music festival, Oswego county village clerk stole 117,000 bucks, port missing 16,000 cash and one million in inventory, constantia village treasury estimated clerk pocketed 80,000, these are only a few incidents. People like you I suppose wonder why your land taxes keep going up. Not to mention the DA just got a estimated 20,000 raise totaling close to 200000 a year, on top of his bogus case costing tax payers thousands against Thibodeau. In which case if he attempts a trial your looking at even more money etimated murder trials run 40,000 to a million. People like you are why OZ is lawless. Pay attention or get out of any job that puts your pay check on the tax payers pay roll, if you can't follow rules you nor they should be there. It's not your money. It's theirs. If more folks paid attention these things wouldn't happen. I see a new sheriff's running for OZ, if he wins, maybe he will clean up the dump, included the OZ sheriff dept. We can only hope.
                                                                                                                             April 18/18






Today's Quote April 15-17/2018

In politics stupidity is not a handicap.
Napoleon Bonaparte

The Minetto town drunk finally caught
What will poor Willy do now? How will he run his golf course without his drunk GF tending bar????

Oh ya she's a teacher at Minetto school. They breed them well


Heather E Lee DOB: 05/21/1976
2427 County Route 8, Oswego, NEW YORK 13126


VTL 1192 03 - DWI- 1ST OFFENSE

Arrest Narrative:

03/31/2018 23:29:00

West First Street / West Bridge Street, Oswego, NEW YORK 13126

On 03/31/2018 at approximately 11:29 PM, Heather E Lee was arrested for Driving While Intoxicated following a traffic stop for operating a motor vehicle on a public highway without headlamps.
                                                                                                                             April 15-17/18

This Explains It
I always wondered why Jared Kushner gave me the creeps every time I saw his face. The picture explains it all. Apparently he's prettier than his wife.
                                                                                                                             April 15-17/18

If he looked that good his father-in-law would be banging him.


Wonder Who They're Investigating This Time?
Has anyone else seen the 3 vehicles in town with the white gov't tags on them? They are pretty good at hiding the cars, but why? (They used to hide under Mid-Town Plaza) I wonder if a city cop was stupid enough to try and run their license plate numbers? If so, his name is now on a list he doesn't want it on.lol
                                                                                                                             April 15-17/18

Chris Jones
On Friday a summons server pounded on Chris Jones home. No one answered, and the neighbors were all to happy to direct him to the 4th floor at the county building. Is there an eviction in the making...maybe his buddy Broadwell will bail him out with the grant money he got for a "water slide" in Oswego Winter Wonderland...makes one wonder if it will be a ice slide.
Thanks Shane, for putting this guy in as Clerk of the Legislature where all the county sensitive information is kept. Might want to have a state audit on county funds....this new treasure wouldn't know if anything is missing.
                                                                                                                             April 15-17/18

Clown Mayor
Mayor Barlow was in the Pal Times talking about consolidation with the county, but yet still let's the fire chief run the most unpopular ambulance service in the state. Menter provided ambulance service for free and covers the city because Oswego only runs a part time ambulance when they have enough guys with drivers licences. I hope you keep it going and hire more fireman so when you run for office it will give your opponent a huge platform to run against you on. The laughs on you.
                                                                                                                             April 15-17/18

Insurance Liability
If you have city employees picking up or driving around with non city employees, what does this do to the city insurance carrier ? Which means, if they get into a accident, no fault pays medical, but city can be held liaible for accident and the city ( taxpayers ) pays out, which in turn means higher insurance costs ! Not including if the city gets sued !

That is why we as taxpayers should spend the time to care !
                                                                                                                             April 15-17/18

Oswego Mayoral Elections
Since Barlow isn't going to be mayor of Oswego. Time to start looking for candidates. Mayor of Oswego is a good job for retirees. Who's wants to run for mayor?
                                                                                                                             April 15-17/18

Due to the Oswego City Dems inability to bring in new blood or get anything right I would say Barlow was a shoe in for another four years.

Sean Hannity with hookers at the Bunny Ranch - what a phony!


                                                                                                                             April 15-17/18

Well another big waste of money by the City of Oswego, the pothole machine. It just doesn’t work yet Kell’s, Barlow and the city’s purchasing department fell for it. The problem is that the machine mixes stone with a sticky tar like material so when you’re car drives over it it sticks to the tires and pulls the material out of the hole. That’s the reason you see them using it on very small holes that don’t even make a difference. They hired a company to come and do the same thing a few years back and if you remember it didn’t work then. But this new administration wasn’t around back then so instead of asking long time employees if it worked they lay them off instead. The result, back to ground zero and a huge waste of money. If you would like to see what l’m talking about take a ride to the lookout next to the McCrobie building (anyone that lives up there knows what I’m talking about) they tried to use the machine on the creators in the road and the stone is now just all over the place, they even tried to hide the fact that it didn’t work by using cold patch for the large holes like they have always done. You can only hope they got a money back guarantee because I bet this thing cost in the $200,000,00 range. The salesman for the machine had to be laughing all the way back to the office.
                                                                                                                             April 15-17/18


NYS Attorney General files lawsuit against Spectrum-Time Warner Cable, alleging deceptive practices


                                                                                                                             April 15-17/18







Today's Quote April 14/2018

I have my faults, but changing my tune is not one of them.
Samuel Beckett

Trump Orders EPA To Loosen Clean Air Rules In Polluter Giveaway

                                                                                                                             April 14/18

Re: Policy?
Gosh I wish I had time to sit around all day and record the comings and goings of city employees and vehicles. Alas, I have a job and a life that requires most of my attention. Maybe you should channel your extra time into something positive instead of bitching all day long.
Whatever you get from being negative, I hope it's enough. Because it's costing you plenty.
                                                                                                                             April 14/18

Barlow not in control
Kells, avery, ruderick, pauldine, cloonan, barlow, board of education, code enforcement,broadwell, ( oswego river money grabber ) , canal system, is not for sale or ownership !

And the aldermen are in the pockets of city hall !

Hey “ oswego luver “ , are you aware of this , and are you Mr. Miles Becker ?
                                                                                                                             April 14/18

Another Oswego school teacher gets arrested for DWI. and counting
                                                                                                                             April 14/18

Urine trouble now









Today's Quote April 13/2018

Every man should see the birth of his children.
Dennis Banks

Re:officer kells
You are right, the box of rocks is way smarter. Nice try Mommy protecting your baby boy, it is painfully honest. He is right up his fathers azz-- he knows where his bread is buttered. He is a punk and a pussy, good luck to his first arrest-- I suggest running lmao. He will be the first new recruit to get wrote up for abuse of position. This place is getting so bad, how is it that this can continue? To be so blatant about everything.
I had heard Kells wanted meters on all rentals for water--- Avery didn't want them-- Kells whined "I'll quit if I don't get my way" . Guess what-- no meters-- What exactly does he have over Barlow? 5000.00 goes that far?
                                                                                                                             April 13/18

A Major Victory for the Right to Record Police

                                                                                                                             April 13/18

I am shocked at the submissions concerning this Mr. Kells, I have seen the work and effort on many occasions done by our city crews and I often e-mail our Mayor with thanks to the men and women who do such an awesome job both summer and winter, I had no idea they have been doing this work under intolerable leadership and yet still take pride in their efforts, you really do a great job. I will request that our Mayor look into this, I am sure he must know these problems exist however, anytime I have written our Mayor I have received a response to my concerns maybe if we all e-mail him he would see the communities concern for this city departments leadership.
                                                                                                                             April 13/18

Country Max Store
I have been waiting for Country Max to open. It sure is taking a long time. I guess I will continue buying my pet food from PetSmart, Tractor Supply, Walmart, Big Lots, Price Chopper, Bosco’s, Garafalo’s, Dollar Store, Dollar General and Big M. There are probably other stores in Ozwego that stock it too. From what I’ve seen, it looks like a duplicate of Tractor Supply. I’m puzzled that they picked our city for their mammoth store. Welcome Country Max.
                                                                                                                             April 13/18








Today's Quote April 12/2018

All change is not growth, as all movement is not forward.
Ellen Glasgow

Vehicle Use Policy.....What a joke!!! Is she on call 24/7? On call for what exactly? Does plowing non city residents driveways fall under number 3? Number 8 is a beauty. Does giving your brother a ride from work fall under number 9?

Council, what is your stance on this blatant violation of City Policy? I do believe no. 13 should be enforced.
It's all there in black and white.



                                                                                                                             April 12/18


Port of Oswego Authority Votes To Continue Decades Of Inept And Unqualified Leadership

                                                                                                                             April 12/18

Re:officer kells
Kells took the test, he passed it that's how he got his job! Leave him out of his fathers mess, and get the facts right before you talk! I dumb as a Rock? Really ? I bet you have never took a test and passed it so jealousy will not get you far!
                                                                                                                             April 12/18

Justice Department goes after renaissance-festival-owner-for-sexual-harassment


                                                                                                                             April 12/18

Oswego landlord has 'longstanding pattern' of sexually harassing female tenants


                                                                                                                             April 12/18

Moving On!
This is Jim Babcock and I wanted to thank everyone for their support of my letter the last few days. I seen where someone posted it on Facebook and was shared several times! Never have I had more friends request than I have had the last few days and everyone has their own issue to share with me! But I am moving on from all this, I made my point and yes I have a lot more I could say. But I just can't do it as I could hurt some people that I care about and they at least use to care about me! For all you city workers all I can say is good luck do your job to the best of your ability and stay out of the gossip and bullshi!!! You guys are the back bone of the city and should stand proud for the job you do! You know if your doing a good job pat yourself on the back! Go home knowing you earned your paycheck! Feels good when you do your job and accomplish your task!

For the last month I have sat here and wondered why I am out a job! I am done wondering and I will be getting the race car ready for this season at the track and if the weather breaks back into gardening. I am excited and feel great about things. The rest is up to Karma!
                                                                                                                             April 12/18







Today's Quote April 11/2018

You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image

when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.
Anne Lamott

Babcock letter
Shame on you Mayor and Council for letting this continue. Mr. Babcock was a dedicated employee with years of experience. You let this crook do as he pleases. He hires only HIS people and pushed out any employee that doesn't fit into his agenda of screwing....the city. Drug testing of the DPW employees went away when he took over. Why? Everyone just turns their heads. Pretty soon it will hit the fan and the media will have a field day once again giving Oswego another black eye. You can cover a pile of s*** with roses but eventually the stink will filter through. Get Kells out before it's too late!
                                                                                                                             April 11/18

City of Oswego DPW and Popcorn Barlow
QUESTION : Are children riding in city DPW vehicles covered by your insurance policy ? Yesterday, Monday around 3pm, your token female BOSS of the DPW with her new city marked pickup truck was at Byrne Dairy east, pulling out and she had riders, kids in her truck so it must be OK !
This happens quite frequently.
Barlow, your DPW has become a total joke with what YOU have allowed to happen with this off the wall Kells. This is one move that has greatly ruined what little bit of credibility you had. It is a shame what the city lawmakers have allowed to happen also.
You need to go back to cotton candy and popcorn sales, it’s obvious you can’t manage a city, let alone your personel within the city.

People need to stand up and fight to try and save Oswego from further demise.

Put Kells and company, Crooks, in charge of consessions stands and see how long they last !

A BARLOW running Oswego ! Anyone who has lived in Oswego for any length of time and knows anything about the Barlow family, knows we are in trouble !
Between Barlow and the City School District we are sinking whats left of the shithole Oswego has become.
                                                                                                                             April 11/18

Officer Kells
How could a person who is dumb as a rock get a job as a Police Officer. Because his father is the DPW commissioner.
                                                                                                                             April 11/18







Today's Quote April 10/2018

The Soviet Union has indeed been our greatest menace, not so much because of what it

has done, but because of the excuses it has provided us for our failures.
J. William Fulbright

410 shotgun – for hunting, not one of those cut down home defense things.
Contact editor@oswegonylion.com

I feel sorry for MR. BABCOCK, but that is the way it is in Oswego. Its the same at the COLLEGE,. HOSPITAL, IT DOESNT MATTER. This city is so corrupt , it is unbelievable, its all about them !!!! I THINK THEY SHOULD ALL BE DRUG TESTED , as all you here is this one is doing drugs as nobody is going to test us. CITY goverment is all about them, you write them letters , NO ANSWER, same as our new council call them no answer. THIS KELLS needs to go back to SCRIBA !!!!!!!!!!! ITS ALL WHAT YOUR NAME IS HERE !!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                                                                                             April 10/18

The Business Model
I see Kells is following a plan - turning powder into profit with the added feature of prostitution as a sideline (he owns the brothels).
Hot Tip: It's not the 80's and it's not the OPD or the OCSD that he should be worried about (and he definitely is not worried about them) but he should be concerned about the AG's Office and the NY State Police Drug Task Force now that O.B. is no longer in a position to run interference on the City's behalf.
                                                                                                                             April 10/18

Hats off to Mr. Babcock
Thank you for coming forward about Kells. Hopefully more will follow in your footsteps and expose this idiot for all that he is. Please don't give up the fight to bring justice to this POS. The Mayor will go down with him and it's his own fault for letting this go on. He is digging his own hole with his girlfriend right by his side. who does he call in for an over night when he is on duty? Tommy, Tommy, Tommy you're getting sloppy!
                                                                                                                             April 10/18

Yes, we know what happened all these years ago, but what good would it do to expose the person who took Heidi, who was in a position of community trust. To expose the cover ups, lies, collaboration and deceit from those we must trust, to know they would watch an innocent mans life taken as well, it could have been anyone of us!. And the others who knew very well what was happening and stood quiet in blind support of your bullshit brotherhood, ask yourself was it worth it, our good ole boys, our heroes. As you can see it would dangerous to expose the real truth, so in the best interest of serving and protecting you! this MUST and will stay unsolved, do I make it sound like I know who did it, if I'm wrong, I'm as sorry as they are about Gary!!!!!!!!!.
                                                                                                                             April 10/18

Oswego City DPW
Since when did the city DPW start working in the town of Scriba. There has been an influx of city pickups and dump trucks dumping at a site on the Middle Road. Did not see a work permit from Scriba at the site either. Probably sliding another one through without approval from Scriba. Why was there a marked city pickup at the site today again for over an hour. City taxpayers gotta love it. They spend quite a bit if time in our town and nobody seems to care. I was told the place where the work is being done in Scriba is connected to Kells, go figure !
Scriba should disband the planning board and save the taxpayers some cash, wouldn’t have to pay them any longer. They have done some good work, but severely lack on the enforcement end. Take the junk ordinance for another example, look at the old Noise farm that used to be a beautiful property now littered with junk cars and trucks all over the property. This happened years after the junk law went into effect. There are many examples and your enforcement guy is running the town now to boot. Scary.
Look at the shithole trailer on Middle Road also with all the junk around the property and 3 deserted vehicles as well as other junk by the roadside.
Our tax dollars are being abused and we suck it up. When does it stop !
Nice job in the city popcorn boy Barlow, what a joke he turned out to be. They all need to be closely looked at.
                                                                                                                             April 10/18

Cities "New?" Pothole truck
So, I witnessed the cities new blow and go pothole truck today. What I saw was two men in this crap machinery holding up traffic, so as to fill a couple of very small holes. What I saw was unbelievable. Arms come from truck over hole and blow air to clean hole and loose debris. And, then spray crushed gravel into hole, filling hole. Two small holes took two men (that never got out of truck) 10 min to accomplish...well, when they blew out debris, they blew out nice junks of asphalt, one piece being about 6"x6"X1 1/2" thick chunk, with the sprayed gravel just piled around filled hole. Not one of them got out of truck to pick up these chunks of asphalt, that are now causing traffic to dodge around them. And, the overfilled holes gravel just being tracked all over the street. Unbelievable! This could have been done with a pickup, a couple of shovels, and it would have been a much better and timely "band-aid." Because, that's what is being done, a temporary crappy job! This machine was how much? Just ridiculous! This should be looked into. This administration needs to go!
                                                                                                                             April 10/18





Today's Quote April 9/2018

Little League baseball is a very good thing because it keeps the parents off the streets.

Yogi Berra


Just some Facts!

My name is Jim Babcock and I was recently forced to retire from the City of Oswego where I worked for close to 25 years and retired as The Parks and Recreation Maintenance Supervisor. I wasn't ready to retire but with job duties being stripped away from me and the way I was being treated, the writing was on the wall.


I am bitter and I want to tell you some facts about the last three years working for the City. In 2015 the now acting Commissioner, Tom Kells, was hired as the waterfront supervisor by Mayor Gillen. His job was to oversee dock hands to make sure they were working and doing their jobs! He was signing for a paycheck and was only driving through the marina a couple of times a day. I talked to my boss about it and he said let it go as there was a good chance that he may be his replacement as the next Commissioner. That left a bad taste in my mouth as I would see his Jag parked downtown for hours at a time while getting paid as a city worker. I again talked to my boss and he assigned him to handle the concert series at linear park every week. So I took a ride down to make sure all was well there. I could not find him anywhere. Instead of doing his job, he pawned his duties off on someone else. He gave them city keys and told them what to do. This is only one example that just shows how he operates.


He hired an Assistant Commissioner, that the city hasn’t had in twenty years. Even though the assistant does a great job, he is doing the job that the Commissioner originally did. He hired a new Waterfront supervisor and I was sharing duties with her. But it started to get to the point that I was being pushed out of the marina, so I called the Commissioner and asked if he could come see and talk to me about this. When we met, he immediately said I wasn't a team player and called me an F-ing baby repeatedly to my face. The following summer he called me into his office and said I was no longer needed at the Marina. He said that the temporary waterfront supervisor can handle the duties. I again argued for my job and he threatened to write me up and then threatened to demote the waterfront supervisor. I told him that I would take the write up, which he didn’t do. However, I was removed from the Marina.


So around October of last year again he called me into his office and I was told that I was going to work shift work with the plows and sander crews. I said that is not my job as I am Parks and Recreation Maintenance Supervisor, a job I tested for. I also asked if the two provisional supervisors were in the shift-work rotation. He started yelling again calling me an F-ing baby and that the provisional supervisors are not working shift work and that is not up for discussion. He told me my attitude was bad and to get out of his office. I walked out of there shaking my head and wondering what I was doing wrong! I decided to file a grievance and harassment charges. I had a meeting with the Mayor before I filed charges and he was good to talk to. But he asked me when I retire who would I have take my place? I thought - what kind of question is that when I came to him for help!


I always put 110 percent into my job only to be treated like garbage by Kells. So come December I started the shift work. I worked 11 pm to 7 am and had a crew raking the parks. It was 33 degrees, foggy and raining. After the second night I became sick and saw a doctor. He put me out of work with acute Bronchitis. While I was out on sick leave the harassment and grievance charges were dismissed. I returned to work and in comes the commissioner. He never asked how I was and told me not to go anywhere because we needed a meeting. I went into the meeting and the first thing he said was that he was taking my truck away! I said why? He said I don't like to plow, something I have done for 25 years and was baffled by this. I have never said I didn’t like plowing. He also denied my personal time while giving the temp supervisor a weeks vacation during that same time. Later on he brought her in on overtime for 4 nights to ride with him, an unnecessary expense. At the end of the meeting, I was told to clean out my desk as I was being moved to a trailer with all the other supervisors!


On January 5th some other things happened that made me realize that things were not good and I needed to retire. I was also told that Kells was going to cut my position and I would lose insurance coverage. When I went to him and asked if I retire could I finish out my days doing my job in the rinks and it was granted as he was getting me out and that’s what he wanted I went back to the ice rinks to find everything in shambles. I had to make several repairs to safety equipment, among other neglected things. When talking to the men that I supervise, they said that for many days no one would tell them what to do so they would go to the rink and do what they could which I applaud them for. That shows what kind of leadership these guys are under.


At the end of February, I became officially retired. I received a call from the assistant commissioner to meet them in the office. So I was like now what- I had eight days left and was just trying to get through them. I saw the assistant and asked him if this was disciplinary because I would want my lawyer. He said it was not and I walked into the office. The commissioner said turn in your keys to the truck and your work keys. You are confined to the supervisor trailer for the remaining time. I asked why and he said I was speeding and I brought this on myself.


Fine way to end my days working with the city. People I work with and people I know knew I did a good job and will believe everything written here. People that know him and are friends with him will know that I am telling the truth. I walked away from my job feeling like a criminal a 25 year dedicated employee treated this way is inexcusable!

                                                                                                                             April 9/18

Trump Once Lobbied Against NYC Proposal To Put Sprinklers In High-Rise Units

                                                                                                                              April 9/18

To Reply to all:
Yea the fact that Stinson did not see anything has ALWAYS bothered me. The Jenn W. interrogation has always bothered me...no follow up on an almost confession? Does anyone believe the OCSD did their best? If not....why not. There are so many leads that have hit stop signs in this case that I can only think ...COVER UP!!!!

Ho wmany lies can the OCSD catch Jenn in and ignore them???? This is incredible. Tonya was accused of maybe setting up the phone call the night before. OCSD employee was there advising her of what to ask? Is it possible ( think about Jenn's great escape ) that she was contacted by "someone in the know the night before? Hard to believe the Jenn's young son hit the "Tonya button" on her phone. Don't you have to get into the phone book and look up the name first? How old was this child in 1994-95? THINK ABOUT IT!!

20 yrs of inv and they walk away from the biggest leads from JW. "after 20 years I still have to tell you guys that there were 2 vans?" You have not convinced me that you guys know a lot more than you are inv., leading on and covering up..just MY OPINION.
                                                                                                                              April 9/18

Who? They protect and to serve no one by name.
That brotherhood you call with the thick, tall blue wall is tilting and getting ready to fall.
They'll tumble and crumble beneath their feet at the site of real men coming to defeat.
Their motto they claim is no one talks they all walk.
For they are mistaken their secrets they hold are seeping from their seams.
They think no one knows or that no one can see the criminals they've come to be.
That to, they are mistaken we all can see. The lies they've created, the heart break they've brung.
Sucks to be them when good men will come.
Off to prison they'll go, in black suvs. Lady justice you say they made her look like a whore.
Sucks to be them when she knocks on their door, for she is not one you f#ck with you see.
She'll destroy you with honor and blow down that wall.
They'll cry like little babies curled up in balls.
No room in jail, federal prison is where they belong, round them up and be gone.
And then the truth will be told the way it should, when men with honor stand tall against that criminal wall.
They laugh as they claim, it's never coming their way.
Here's some advice for the day.
All bets are off the table.
You boys have been had.
You can laugh, and wonder what lies ahead.
Your days are numbered because your honor is dead.
                                                                                                                              April 9/18

I remember reading back awhile I guess, that the big boys were coming to clean up this mess, they would take no shit and uncover lies, but get ready to wipe more tears from your eyes, they really came to repair the blue wall, some leaks came out of what people saw. a no confidence smell has been in the air that the blue brotherhood just doesn't care. This might seem more than we can see, now it concerns our national security, to lose our trust in those who protect and serve is not what our community truly deserves, this event affects all our cops, cause I'm in the car that just will not stop. So it's a matter of time when we might meet, and I will not sing the blues, I'm a lot like you, we got nothing to lose. So it does seem the blue wall did tilt a bit, but the real wall builders just strengthened it
                                                                                                                              April 9/18


Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
To "reply to all"

You don't have to give names, but is what you are telling us about Stinson etc. the truth? And that many others have been interrogated?

I hope so but if they are using this as a cover up like the Jenn W. interrogation then it's a waste of time...;because I still believe they had enough to arrest her on something connected to this crime...BUT WHY DIDN'T THEY?
                                                                                                                              April 9/18

Trump's hair takes off as he boards Air Force One to West Virginia

                                                                                                                              April 9/18








Today's Quote April 8/2018

The day the sign went up on Hank Babcock Blv. people were asking, who the hell is that.
Thirty years from now thousands will still remember Chet Fantom.


I can already hear the bagpipes and see the firehouse flag at half mast as the denizens of Ozwego bemoan the loss of Hanky “Panky” Babcock one of biggest bloodsuckers to draw a breath within the city limits. Among the many accomplishments you will not read in his obituary was his participation in the robbing of rent deposits from the residents of Hamilton Homes so the board could pay the salaries of Jim Cloonan and John Gosek’s idiot son who’s jobs consisted of doing as little as possible. For 91 years Hanky did little more than take up space and breath the air that might have been better used to fill turd shaped balloons.

There are fewer and fewer good people on this earth let alone the city of Ozwego. On April 6, 2018 their numbers were diminished by one, Chet Fantom. I knew him from the time he was the new kid at Raby's until he became the slightly rotund old guy with the gray hair. He always had a smile and a sense of humor and never said a bad word about anyone, something I never quite mastered. Going the extra mile to help someone was just his way.

There is kind of an unspoken language among cancer survivors. Conversations usually start with how are you doing or how you are feeling. They might exchange statistics about blood counts or treatments but mostly it is reading between the lines, or observations about things like hair loss, weight loss, skin color or attitude. When you have been in those shoes you have a pretty good idea what is really going on inside the other person.

The last time I saw Chet was March 16th. He was feeling OK. His color was not so good but had not been for some time. The radiation treatments for his Leukemia had taken their toll on his kidneys and he was now on dialysis. We talked about the recent passing of Ted Raby and his sister Roberta, which I had only recently heard of. His smile and humor were still intact and if he knew he was near the end he hid it well and I did not see it.


Chet was a good man and his passing will leave a void that will not soon be filled.


If life was fair Chet would have lived to be 91 and Babcock would have been stillborn.







Today's Quote April 7/2018

It is not sufficient to see and to know the beauty of a work. We must feel and be affected by it.


                                                                                                                              April 7/18

Reply to All
Bohrer brings in the idea an officer was involved as well. Not only does he say during his taped interview he is unsure of which cop is bad or good anymore he tells you about a red truck with an officer riding in the passenger side passing his home on Friday because Heidi was to be taken on Sunday. Which officer helped her get the job at the store and would come to see her after Brett left? It is all over the internet and many have ratted the officer in. I am certain anyone who knew Heidi or was ever in contact with her or knew of her being a CI was questioned, but not by the Sheriffs another department. Must be some of you are left in the dark. This officer does have much to loose. Maybe just maybe he rode in the gray areas of the law. Go to you tube and do some scanning under the Heidi videos you will see its already been posted a vast amount of times and publically in regard's to this cops involvement with Allen. This is not the only officer having relations with a certain someone, another one is doing well at it with a certain suspects relative. Her phone records could confirm their link. Maybe just maybe they already have photos. Brett "defender", it is obvious Brett knew more then he led on in 94/95 as his story has changed drastically. He went from saying Heidi was not afraid of anyone in 94. To twenty years later someone was doing drive by's, by his parents home and that she feared a coke head on Albright road. Then he requested an attorney and refused to work with any OCS Deputy afterward. Brett knew and Brett led the investigation astray for having no involvement he held on to information in 94 that did not lead to the Thibodeau's as neither one lived on Albright road. Secrets suck but keeping them is another task they are not very good at. PS to the reply to H. Allen the theory on Gary was he was arrested for coke distribution, catch up, it was used and he was sent to Mass based on this idea. Which was a fabrication of the actual facts. To Death of common sense, that I agree with and it was Bivens who lied and well he was recently questioned and he does not point in photos to either Thibodeau but to one man named in this now, and boy was he scared. Many have been questioned that many of you are unaware of.
                                                                                                                              April 7/18


Since the brotherhood began there has been a wall, never measured, it's just to tall. Sticking together with thoughtless support, a brother in trouble we never abort. In the name of justice they break the rules like we don't see, we are the fools. A girl has been missing, they have all the facts, but that dam blue wall prevents them to act. There is a stain on our Sheriffs that will never come clean, till the blue wall comes down or at least painted green. Now the jails not big enough for all now involved, this disappearance with never be solved. There is some good in the passing of time, as we get older we do reflect on this crime, and those involved will see the blue wall can tilt, when old age comes to those riddled with guilt. Then the lips loosen and truth may be told, but what about the lives that were stoled. Standing together I do so adore, but you have made lady justice look like a whore.
                                                                                                                              April 7/18

So you dumb shits that post on your website about Social Responsibility:
The Y is the unparalleled cause for strengthening community because we are the community. We are a powerful association of men, women and children joined together by a shared commitment to nurturing the potential of kids, promoting healthy living and fostering a sense of social responsibility.

Yet your Board President Cuck Mervine holds a check on the front page of the local paper from 2 time on trial child pedophile Tony Pauldine for 100k. The check was for one, suppose to be $200k for the purchase, and two your organization is taking money from a child molester!

When does your silly hipoccrasy end!
Ed Mervine holding a check from child molester Pauldine hahaha, you dumb cuck

Little Tony got beat up his whole life as a little kid and he is still a little boy touching boys and now you are taking money from him so he can pay for your acceptance.
Sick gross people
                                                                                                                              April 7/18

Kells Fleacing City
On a motion by Mr. Canale, seconded by Mr. Kells, a resolution was approved approving a PILOT schedule
and authorizing the execution and delivery of certain documents by the Agency in connection with a certain
project undertaken at the request of the Company. A copy of the PILOT Resolution is attached and made an
official part of the minutes.

Cahill property, YMCA building, East side Water park all given PILOTS by people like Kells raping the city tax payers and approved by Cockacoli and Treadwell. Kells doesn't even live in the city but just gave over 100's of thousands of dollars in yearly tax revenue due to the City of Oswego. Broadwells and Pauldine stealing from you all right in front of your faces!

$70 thousand dollars for new docks and "possibly that much needed to install" which he will source out to his buddies to contract with the City. Thieves

                                                                                                                              April 7/18







Today's Quote April 6/2018

I was realy good at being a bad guy.
Ric Flair

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
To the Gary supporters:
All you need to solve this case is
1. Why didn't Stinson see Richard, Swnkowski or Bivens if he was there before and after the crime?
2. Why didn't Bivens see Stinson there?
3. Why would Swenkowski lie about seeing Richard and seeing him leave alone?..He didn't lie, someone else did.
                                                                                                                              April 6/18

I do not know who knows about Heidi dating the sheriff. Its always been a rumor. Never confirmed. Nor did I know he was questioned.
                                                                                                                              April 6/18

Jenn Wescott recorded phone call with Tonya Priest
Jennifer Wescott said many telling things in the background that many didn't hear, because you have to listen closely.


Listen closely at the below listed times. You may have to listen a few times to catch it, but all can be heard.
@1 minute and 3 seconds, Tonya Priest: "Why did they even do this?" Jennifer Wescott: "It was for the cocaine"
@1 minute and 16 seconds, Jennifer Wescott, "I couldn't get them to go."
@4 minutes and 47 seconds, Jennifer Wescott. "Animals, God Almighty."
I'd say Jennifer knows a lot more about Heidi Allen's kidnapping.
                                                                                                                              April 6/18

Maybe these 2

Photo dated 2015 maybe, just maybe these two could tell you more about the officers relations with Heidi Allen. Everyone knew and knows. Its not a secret. But these two obviously have a secret. Nothing like meeting up in the middle of the Thibodeau case and getting their stories straight. Murtaghs sister has a secret. Must be sex, drugs and handcuffs keeps ocsd at bay.
                                                                                                                              April 6/18

General Fool
A leader is someone I would follow into a war and know he will lead by example. This guys predecessor was a great leader. I would trust and do anything he asked! He wouldn't put me in harms way and he would lead us to win any war and he would not get shot by friendly fire. He on the other hand would want the tank operator to fly the Apache helicopter well the pilot is walking a mine field as he took some pictures that angered the the general! He would have the private operating the tank and his best friend if he has one as first lieutenant!
In other words he is clueless and very much not a leader! He has cost the City more than he has helped. Yes a few well placed flowers and a couple projects in very visible spots like the wall at east park and the cleanup at the lookout above the marina and painting some concrete walls. Very visible but creates more maintenance!
The Marina's always had two maintenance men. This guy comes in and takes one away in 2016 followed by removing the Supervisor in 2017. Marina maintenance has been ignored. The international docks are held in place by ropes attached to concrete blocks under the water. Last spring the water was extremely high when the docks were put in.The water dropped and when the storm hit. The ropes were never adjusted and were very loose and with the weight of all these boats, the docks were swaying so much it stressed the frames cracking and breaking them. They are so compromised that they should not be used as they are not safe! This guy won't accept the blame for this as a true leader would. He will point the finger at past employees that are not there to defend themselves as that is how he operates. There is so much more that can be said but for now just an example from the inside looking out! He has done immoral and corrupt things in a little over the two years he has been in this position how does he get away with it? Time for him to go and Mayor you need to come to your senses! You have a bright future and this guy is going to give you a black eye if he already hasn't that you won't be able to hide! So Mr self proclaimed leader do every one a favor and resign! Your not a leader at all except in your own head! I wouldn't follow you in a parade as I would be scared people would throw stuff at you. Just resign!!!
                                                                                                                              April 6/18

Todd Retirement M/B
I hope whomever the next sheriff is will find true justice for Allen. We've had four new possible suspects since 2014 and nobody is doing anything. Hopefully we will find out more information about Bohrer who seems to fit Van Zandt's profile to a T. According to public records, Bohrer's last known address was...wait for it...127 Allen Rd. in Parish. Coincidence? I think not. The collection of articles he has, his past history as a kidnapper, the bracelet, calling himself an investigator, visiting the Allens. Dismissing him as a mentally-challenged person who happens to be fascinated with the case is just lazy police work.
                                                                                                                              April 6/18

Gary Thibodeau
Gary Thibodeau cocaine dealing. That's laughable. No traffic in and out of his home, confirmed by his neighbors, two huge searches on his property in 94 no drugs, no large amounts of money, no nothing was ever found on him during his arrests or on his property. For a man dealing huge quantities of cocaine he sure as hell hid the stash well. So well, the OCSD had nothing at all to support that theory. "They" are posting Heidis remains were found in some gravel pit. Upon Gary's arrest they searched a gravel pit 30 miles from his home. Bet your ass if they ever found anything in any way. It would have been used during the 95 trial. "If no one talks, everyone walks," the new slogan. To bad many already are talking. Heidis cop friend may want to understand one thing. There's a fine line between good cop and criminal and he's a damn criminal. Whatcha gonna do when they come for you, let me guess blame Gary Thibodeau. You are all just....
                                                                                                                              April 6/18


re:H.Allen Murder

News to me that Brett was a cop...unless she did have a cop bf on the dl.

If you read ALL documents available, you would have read during trial that Brett assaulted an ex-gf. You would have also read his testimony about getting to the D&W at 5:55am but the first register transaction-being turned on-was at 4:06am. How can that be?

Next, Heidi was not "used" in any criminal investigation. That's after months and months and years of the family and Dodd saying she wasn't an informant. Dodd even went so far as to tell Judge Brandt that Sergeant Lortie was mistaken when he wrote the report on April 24, 1994 of Heidi being "signed up".

You lost me at "Gary was target of cocaine investigation....". If that was true, why wasn't that used to bolster the crook killing informant angle by the prosecution. Seems like a pretty cut and dry motive as compared to what Dodd and Oakes have come up with. LE did go with the drug trafficker angle but even that has now been kiboshed with the MA police report Oakes filed and with the Fact that Gary got time served for the warrant out of MA.

p.s. I think your theory is wrong and doesn't fit the facts.
                                                                                                                              April 6/18







Today's Quote April 4-5/2018

Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you react to it.
Charles R. Swindoll

Heidi Allen Anniversary
Today's the Anniversary of Heidi disappearance. The sad thing is her sister not supporting finding the real truth. If she did she may actually find Heidi. She was also asked to join in the Steve Wilkos show. She was asked herself to be a direct part of the testing. She declined and informed Steve Wilkos she would press charges on them if they called her again and hung up on them. She has stated on the hope for Heidi wall it's for supporters only who have nice things to say. If you scroll all the way back as far as you can go. There is no posts reflecting anything but undying support and hope for missing Heidi Allen. Many citizens are supporters of both Heidi Allen and Gary Thibodeau. But many are not supporters of her sister or her beliefs in the Thibodeau case. She constantly says "you just needed to be in that court room." Well, many citizens were, including a multitude of reporters whom heard the very same things she, her self has, whom stood firm then and still stand firm today on the fact the "Thibodeaus were not the monsters who committed this crime." Not even her entire family believes the things Mrs. Buske does. She seems to be supporting the bogus investigation that has not brought her one step closer to finding Heidi. "It's easier to fool someone than it is to convince them they have been fooled." That statement is a clear reflection of Mrs. Buske. Her father on the other hand made a phone call four years ago, he wanted to know if one man was named. It wasn't either Thibodeau he asked about. The onion once wrote about Lisa Buske claimimg she and her family were threatened. If so, may God forgive Mrs. Buske for not having the courage to come forward and leading many astray out of fear. God granted the real truth will come forward for Heidis father and may Mrs. Buske realize then she's been greatly fooled. May Heidis remains be brought home to rest. For if anyone deserves peace it is missing Heidi Allen.
                                                                                                                              April 4-5/18

True stories
People read stuff on here about Kell's and think it is all bull. But the truth of the matter is it is true. We have no where else to go. They control the local newspaper and the common council. So where do you go? Who do you turn to. Yes we bash away but the truth is the truth. This guy is down right criminal and immoral. I have dealt with him as long as I could and he won! Karma is a bitch and working way to slow for me. Kell's needs a very hard lesson and it cannot happen soon enough for me! Retaliation is a sign of a big ego for such a small boy. But Karma is a bitch and I cannot wait till it jumps up and bites you! Do the citizens a favour and yourself and resign your position. You are over your head and have no idea what you are doing. Moral is at a all time low and this city has good employee's that don't deserve to be treated and punished by your ego.Hope this post didn't arouse your ego to much Tommy!
                                                                                                                              April 4-5/18


office tavern
if u want to do arson right have tony c call jimmy m for u. NO arson related deaths cost xtra sleep safe tony
                                                                                                                              April 4-5/18

H.Allen Murder
after reading ALL the available material i believe that one major suspect was never even considered and needs a much closer examination. i'm talking about the COP/ boyfriend. he had the ONLY possible motive,in my opinion.
follow this: Allen is "drug informant" Gary is target of cocaine investigation. cop is dirty. Allen finds out and is too honest.period. Cop has MOST to lose.
                                                                                                                              April 4-5/18

H.Allen Murder 2
P.S.can anyone tell us where this cop/boyfriend was immediately after Allen disappeared? did he have an "alibi" that he was too eager to use? why did he distance himself from the investigation/ shouldn't he have been the MOST concerned? did he avoid "insinuating" himself into the investigation because,being a cop, he knew that that's what the killers do?
                                                                                                                              April 4-5/18


Commissioner of Public Works
Word has it, that Kells is trying to get support to change the City Charter so he can get a 15 year contract as the Commissioner of Public Works. This guy has no clue of what he is doing as commissioner and has turned employees against each other and hired spies to watch what is going on, so he can punish those employees if they don't follow the Kells Doctrine.
Now changing the City Charter for a political reason is not something that this council should do, as the Commissioner of Public Works is a "serve at the pleasure of the mayor " job and should not ever be a long term contract. It has historically been filled by some suck-up flunky like Kells, and must never span more than the four year term of any mayor. If this was ever attempted, the contract would be for $1,800,000 (75,000 x 15, plus benefits) plus whatever else Kells could continue to steal from the city.
Anytime a charter change is made by local law, it can be challenged through the petition process to make it a mandatory referendum which will be brought to the public for a vote. The process of getting the required signatures (a little over 400) would start the day this is proposed. Letters to the editor, advertising, and informational letters will be mailed to every registered voter in the city. Trust me, this is a fight worth fighting and the end result will be shoving this proposal right up Barlows ass.
It is time to bring this little gang of thieves known as the Barlow Administration to an end. The city is a mess, taxes have gone up every year since he was elected, the number of flunkies that have been appointed to city boards is unprecedented. There was a time that I thought this kid might have been there for the betterment of the city, but it is now clear he is being directed by the scum he has surrounded himself with and this proposal , if true, will be a major black eye to him.
Bring it on Barlow/Kells/Cockacolli/, we are looking forward to the fight!
                                                                                                                              April 4-5/18

Gary's case

 Hewitt films just cut loose w a documentary on Gary's case.
                                                                                                                              April 4-5/18

Commissioner of Public Works
Word has it, that Kells is trying to get support to change the City Charter so he can get a 15 year contract as the Commissioner of Public Works. This guy has no clue of what he is doing as commissioner and has turned employees against each other and hired spies to watch what is going on, so he can punish those employees if they don't follow the Kells Doctrine.
Now changing the City Charter for a political reason is not something that this council should do, as the Commissioner of Public Works is a "serve at the please of the mayor " job and should not ever be a long term contract. It has historically been filled by some suck-up flunky like Kells, and must never span more than the four year term of any mayor. If this was ever attempted, the contract would be for $1,800,000 (75,000 x 15, plus benefits) plus whatever else Kells could continue to steal from the city.
Anytime a charter change is made by local law, it can be challenged through the petition process to make it a mandatory referendum which will be brought to the public for a vote. The process of getting the required signatures (a little over 400) would start the day this is proposed. Letters to the editor, advertising, and informational letters will be mailed to every registered voter in the city. Trust me, this is a fight worth fighting and the end result will be shoving this proposal right up Barlows ass.
It is time to bring this little gang of thieves known as the Barlow Administration to an end. The city is a mess, taxes have gone up every year since he was elected, the number of flunkies that have been appointed to city boards is unprecedented. There was a time that I thought this kid might have been there for the betterment of the city, but it is now clear he is being directed by the scum he has surrounded himself with and this proposal , if true, will be a major black eye to him.
Bring it on Barlow/Kells/Cockacolli/, we are looking forward to the fight!
                                                                                                                              April 4-5/18








Today's Quote April 3/2018

The senses deceive from time to time, and it is prudent never to trust wholly

those who have deceived us even once.
Rene Descartes

Office Tavern
So let me get this straight:
March 28th Jeff Holbrook is handed a six figure check and an envelope of cash from Rob Malone.
March 29th Jeff texts all employees that they can't come to work and it's closed until ownership transfer and that there is posted security.
April 1st Structure Fire, Office Tavern
OFD personnel are just clearing from a kitchen fire at the Office Tavern on West 1st Street. Command reported a working fire in the kitchen, and crews were able to knock the flames down quickly. Damage was contained to the kitchen area, no injuries were reported, and and all personnel were back in service after about an hour.

How brazen must you be to not only screw employees overnight, but also on the same block of the fire department. I mean, you are no longer open and you have a kitchen fire? Texting employees that you were given cash? Beyond the authorities being notified of this horse shit, maybe the IRS and sales tax authority needs to be notified.
                                                                                                                              April 3/18

RE: Oswego Tax Scam
If you crossed Kells in anyway, you can bet he is behind this. He lives to get back at anyone who crosses him. The fraud cart and what about the jeep? All his new hires are hand picked by him. Why? So his rats can see all but turn their heads for him. Not one job posting on the cities website but he brings them in weekly. Get the state in here and do an audit. Little does he know, he isn't the only one who like to keep track of everybody's moves. There are eyes all over you Kells!!!
                                                                                                                              April 3/18

Drunk Oswego fireman
Another drunk Oswego firefighter arrested. Do you really want these guys driving you around and taking care of you in an ambulance? Have they not learned from the Syracuse fireman and cop killing a kid while driving drunk!!!! Let’s see how quick this gets swept under the carpet!

Timothy J Haynes DOB: 08/18/1978
238 West Utica Street, Oswego, NEW YORK 13126
VTL 1192 02 - OPER MV .08 OF 1% ALCOHOL-1ST VTL 1192 03 - DWI- 1ST OFFENSE
Arrest Narrative:
03/31/2018 00:24:00
238 West Utica Street, Oswego, NEW YORK 13126
On 03/31/2018 at approximately 12:38 AM, Timothy J Haynes was arrested for Driving While Intoxicated following a complaint of a Reckless Driver. More specifically, Haynes was pulled over for Failing to Keep Right.
                                                                                                                              April 3/18






Today's Quote April 2/2018

People never lie so much as after a hunt, during a war or before an election.
Otto von Bismarck


Oswego Lover

Start your own web site !

                                                                                                                              April 2/18



Re Where Is Claudia Tenney Now?

Shes probably masturbating with a dildo shaped like an AR 15.

                                                                                                                              April 2/18



Check this out! Oswego tax scam...

People! Check your Oswego City Tax bills; a person was charged extra $150 bucks for property clean up?  1) There is no proof that the city did this work. 2) The city has to notify the property owner of the work being performed. (Trespassing enter the owner's land or property without permission.) Intrusion of solitude. on the City of Oswego's part.

If Barlow and Kells want to start playing that game. Let’s start with the cart Kells had built for his “Halloween Party” at the DPW and use at his place. (Fraud) Let’s have the state come down and do an audit.

                                                                                                                              April 2/18



response to school bullying

first of all that is all you are is a bird....a do do bird.......you obviously dont have children in that school or your probably a kiss ass to that school for 1 reason or another im not sure........they pronounce that school as i spelled it fitzugh go ahead and give them a call..and i dont have any reason for lying my other 2 children went to the school as well.and had no issues and that was 6 years ago,that school has gone down hill with my other 2.so im not sure if you have children there but i will do everything i can to protect my children...so go on about your business and have a lovely day.........

                                                                                                                              April 2/18







Today's Quote April 1/2018

O, wind, if winter comes, can spring be far behind?
Percy Bysshe Shelley

Shawn Doyle needs to go on the Steve Wilco show and take a polygraph test!
Bet he fails!
Wonder what his so called friends will think when he takes a plea bargain and pleads guilty.
OR is it going to trial?
When you tell a kid you love him and then put your hand in his pants twice, you should have put your hand in your own pants and played "touch a penis" by yourself!
Heard he was removed from his employment and a few originations, BUT still a Legislator!
Guess we need people like him to be a law maker....LOL
Where's Claudia Tenney now?
                                                                                                                              April 1/18

School Bullying Response!
To the individual fabricating the story about the bullying going on at Fitzhugh Park School I would like to think that if your Children went to Fitzhugh Park School that you would at the very least know how to spell your Childrens School name as it is spelled Fitzhugh and not Fitzugh! I surmise that you were writing the post about "all kids want to do is bully" and just looking to try and convince everyone that you are right. Well you sure aren't fooling this bird! Get a life and quit Lying! Your story is just to fabricated SORRY!
                                                                                                                              April 1/18

RE : School Bulling
Call Them Out and Name Them ! Mini Me is pulling the strings! Ever ask why no one at the high school flunks, gets suspension ? Because THEY LOSE MONEY, and THEY CAN ASK FOR MORE when numbers look right for funding . Once again, people are being lied too ,again !

Repaving some of the city streets, who is going to do the proper heights on all the storm and sewer and utilities covers before any repaving and sub-base work ?

And is the engineering dept. involved in this math construction, or is tells ridding another carpet ride ?

And of course, most of the aldermen going along with the barlow,tells and bells, broad well effect, trying to get the kid down to albany, so politics can help oswego, in spite of their greed .

It is bad when the man hole covers are as bad as the pot holes !

Maybe the next mayor of oswego will still be high school come time for elections !

Aldermen, really, give Kells a 15 year contract ?

This deal stinks like the swamp Scott Pruitt is mired in," the executive director of the Sierra Club said

                                                                                                                              April 1/18

pauldine engagies with city of Oswego
Absolute BABBLE!
Oswego (and not bastardizing the English language) Luver

                                                                                                                              April 1/18






Today's Quote March 31/2018

Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind.
Rudyard Kipling

I just cant believe the bullying that goes on in oswego schools.Fitzugh being the worst that i have seen.......All i manage to see are some of the teachers as well as the principal bullying these kids.When my children tell me that they are getting bullied and come home crying i call the school immediately to go through the right chains and proper procedures,FOR WHAT?????Nothing gets done.so when i tell my children to stick up for themselves and to protect themselves then they bully my children.....BULL SHIT not anymore....and what about this superintendent goewey what a joke its impossible to ever get to talk or even see this fool cause he is never in his office.....what a joke ....well just a little fyi my children will no longer put up with any of your shit cause now i will be stepping in.And further more the next time my children get 1 hair on their heads touched i WILL be going to the news and informing them of all the bull shit that these poor kids have to deal with........so go ahead all you teachers and principal you just keep sticking together but I PROMISE YOU THIS IS NOT A THREAT THIS IS A PROMISE THAT THE NEWS WILL BE CONTACTED.........,.,,,,,
                                                                                                                              March 31/18


pauldine engagies with city of oswego , ny for profit
What part does the aldermen do not understand ! Some of the RENTAL GRUBERS ( avery, tells , kells, mr. gooey, code enforcement brainless, on top of the engeering dept , which should should show construction defaults, but , that should be on the entering dept, code enforcement, mayor, money collecting dept .

And of course, where are the monies that are missing from the ( board of education )

Please ask the aldermen, mayor, city lawyer. dpw. comm, police comm. the fire chief, board of elections , …..

Does this lie have to continue over and over and over again ?
Look at 481 ( east ) as you come into oswego , ny ( heading north ) .

Those black yards really set the pace of how oswego, ny is behind construction 50 years !

And does the engeering dept. , code dept., work together ?
And is the city backing off of this “ no taxes paid, cannot build thinking . , but food for thought, if someone cannot pay taxes with in a two year time frame, the city of oswego , ny goes to there master plan, and who is grabinging the properties ?

How about the rental monies, grabbing, DPW Comm. ( conflict of interest ) on power control ?

Barlow is the stepping stone , but for who , and for how long ?
                                                                                                                              March 31/18


Can someone explain how this Kells guy holds the chair as commissioner of the DPW. Mayor Barlow seems like a nice young man with big time political aspirations. But he has this unqualified fool working for him! How and why!!!!!
                                                                                                                              March 31/18







Today's Quote March 30/2018

The politician who never made a mistake never made a decision. John Major
Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/john_major

City Cannot use private Contractors To Enforce Code Violations
Boy, the city has some real smart people , as aldermen, city lawyer, dpw comm, head of code enforcement , really ? Owning rental property ( and because you have done painting, porch repair, snow shovel lifting, evading building permits , like your friend, mr avery, mr pauline, mr tells, mr bell, and of course , the mayor with the controller on his back !
Why would anybody want these no backbone, power leaches , sitting at their little desks with name plates !
Keep those masks on bells, tells, miller, city atty careokete, broad well, barlow, fire chief ( another greed brought to the table ). Please keep those masks on because I guess every day is halloween at city hall !
                                                                                                                              March 30/18

Crematorium – More Income Found
On March 14, the weather was terrible everything was closing except Scriba’s public meeting on the crematorium. Many people missed going to the meeting because of the weather even so, by press accounts, the meeting was still widely attended. The big question asked was how Riverside Cemetery could break even with only $30,000 a year income when they need $80,000.00. Now that is a very interesting question, has this organization told us all the facts?

I noticed they plan a memorial garden so would that mean you would have to add a mausoleum? If you call locations that provide these services the costs for burial is ranging from approximately $800.00 to over $1,000. Costs depends on if the person is placed in the outside wall versus inside the mausoleum. So suddenly one begins to understand the reason the crematorium can’t be moved.

If the other submission about “infectious waste,” is right we suddenly have the reasons why, the board isn’t being open or showing the accounting support for this crematorium. The writer of the very interesting article on March 28, pointed out a connection between the cemetery and the hospital. The other connection is the directors listed on the website, many of whom have or had a relationship with Pathfinder Bank. You will note a connection between Pathfinder Bank, Oswego Health and Riverside Cemetery.
                                                                                                                              March 30/18


Steve Wilcos
Richard and Tonya pass polygraphs.



J S interview
The pal times interviewing J S for the school shooting saga? Joke. This woman worked for Scriba Meats, stole money, previously arrested for welfare fraud, and now works at Oswego Walmart as a “supervisor” in a yellow vest. Honey everyone knows the yellow vest gives you a 50 cent raise. Stop bragging. About working for the worst company in the world. And your kids tell people you are a “ho ho ho” for having a threesome to get your latest car? Wow. You can’t make this stuff up.
                                                                                                                              March 30/18

Does that go for EVERYONE?

“"I think anybody has the right today to have all the details out there and not just the headline of the accusation," Chairman of the Oswego County Republican Committee, Fred Beardsley said.”

Does that go for EVERYONE or just fellow Republicans?

Care to comment now that Doyle has also been charged with sex abuse?
                                                                                                                              March 30/18


Drug boss!
ells is defiantly into drugs! That is what he does when at his Mitchell street whore house!
                                                                                                                              March 30/18










Today's Quote March 28/2018

Workers of the world unite; you have nothing to lose but your chains.
Karl Marx

Oswego County Manages To Steal The Headlines From The Victims In Parkland Florida
woman accused of stealing from Parkland school shooting memorial



                                                                                                                              March 27/18





The excellent crematorium article, which appeared at oswegonylion.com on March 25, 2018 has prompted me to submit a posting, also. I was very impressed with the comparison the writer made to “Pollution Abatement Services”. I goggled it, and was utterly shocked to learn what had happened, and that basically the citizens initially were very “happy” about it. Obviously, it was another case of complete ignorance of what hazardous material was being peddled in their community. Well, here it is, deja vous, once again!

There is a shroud of secrecy surrounding the reluctance of the Riverside Cemetery trustees to reveal any concrete information, regarding the cost and expectations of profit in operating the proposed crematorium, which has been recently profiled on the front pages of both The Pall-Times and The Shopper newspapers. What is the REASON there has been no written information, regarding the financial aspects of starting this business venture (cost of construction, equipment, operating expenditures, and expected profit, etc). I have seen several Riverside Cemetery crematory-related newspaper articles during the past year, and yet this subject is never addressed! What are these people hiding, that they will not present this data in an honest, direct manner?

This intentional ambiguity caused me to delve into it a bit more and something surfaced that would make a great novel, because it is dramatic and inherently plausible. I researched crematoriums, and was quite shocked to find that once they are approved to operate by the NYS Department of Conservation, there are very few limits on what they may do, for example, did you know that they can also incinerate toxic “medical waste” ???

If you go to the DEC website, check out NYDEC regulation 6CRRNY 219-4.6:

(b) Infectious waste (other than pathological waste and animal bedding) in excess of five percent of the total permitted hourly charging rate may not be burned in a crematory.

The DEC interpretation: 5% of the total permitted hourly charging rate of infectious waste is permitted to be burned and all pathological wastes and animal bedding can be burned.

FYI: Pathological waste is defined as any recognizable human or animal body part, organs and tissue.

Where does the intrigue enter in to this? It is public knowledge that there is at least one Riverside Cemetery trustee, who holds a similar position with the Oswego Health Board of Directors. One of the main concerns in the operation of any hospital is the elimination of medical waste, right? Just saying……..
                                                                                                                              March 27/18


Polution Abatement was a scam from start to finish. The motivation was greed. They were Politically protected at the city and county level. DEC oversite was minimal. Do not expect this project to be any different.

Better direct them to the DPW and Kells. While they are at it, bring the drug testing kits with them. No testing for any of HIS new hires. No testing at all since he took over so we hear. Quite a few questionable characters getting put on the DPW payroll lately. It's a free for all! And the council just keeps looking the other way and doing what they are told to do.
                                                                                                                              March 27/18

Land Bank
The city and county haven't been in the Land Bank business very long and already it's under investigation.

Someone close to the county was questioned for over an hour about Broadwell, Avery and Barlow.

Their shenanigans didn't take long to draw the attention of others. Three's Company LOL
                                                                                                                              March 27/18

Suco Suco Suco..
Who is the Flighty one ??? LOL.

                                                                                                                              March 27/18

Trump expells 60 Russian diplomats., and then this story pops up on the internet.
Do the Russians have anything else on Trump? Enquiring minds want to know!!!


                                                                                                                              March 27/18







Today's Quote March 27/2018

All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure.
Mark Twain


From Gary to All of you
I hope all of you. Whom have stolen another man's life. Face karma never seen before.


                                                                                                                              March 27/18



                                                                                                                              March 27/18

I have heard from an unsuspecting source that Federal Investigators are in town and have been questioning city employees. Namely the Personel Director and upper management at the Fire Department. When are the details of this story gonna break?
                                                                                                                              March 27/18

Minetto FD
Appears that our local Oswego Firefighter Joe Smegelsky is at it again. The Minetto FD apparently had some sexual harassment claims brought up and FF Smegelsky, who is back to Chief of the Minetto FD again, has apparently opted to sweep them under the rug and ignore them. Now 5-6 of their members have quit and moved to other departments. Nothing has been said or done. You would think that the department where he stole all that money from would not have let him back in. Now this sexual harassment stuff is going to lead to some big legal issues for their department, hope they have some good money in their legal account to fight this, unless of course Smegelsky emptied that one out also. When will people learn, once a criminal always a criminal. Glad I don't live in Minetto but I still have to worry about this guy showing up at my house when he is working.
                                                                                                                              March 27/18








Today's Quote March 26/2018

What's right isn't always popular. What's popular isn't always right.
Howard Cosell

Craccioli become Mayor of the City Oswego? (Barlow must be stepping down.)
Kevin Caraccioli, City Attorney, requested permission to attend a three-day New York State Conference of Mayors’ 109th annual meeting to be held May 6-8 at Saratoga Springs.
                                                                                                                              March 26/18

Waste of tax money
Oswego is now paying to get out of the softball bussines, why are thay not getting out of the ambulance bussiness for free. There is a incredible amount of liability of having a ambulance, not much with softball. How does it not make sense to also have Menter run the ambulance at no cost ,will save the city money and reduce the city's risk liability. The fire chief needs the ambulance because in his quest for absolute power, he does not want another agency taking the lead position of EMS in Oswego. This causes him to feed the council multiple lies and manipulates data to suit his needs. Maybe the chief sould look at every single fire department in Oswego, Onadoga, Cayuga and Wane counties, none have fire department ambulances except one owned by Syracuse FD that takes care of the fire department at fire scenes. The chiefs most inportant thing should be the tax payers wallet not his personal gain.
                                                                                                                              March 26/18

re: Transparency
Some of us were sitting around gabbing this morning when THE LION eventually got brought up. We all ahd a good laugh at the writer who was demanding to know who was running this city. If you have to ask, you must not be from around here, because everybody nows that its Boss Kells that runs things in these parts. He was the money behind the Popcorn Prince and shelled out for the campaigns of the current council. Ole Boss knows how to get what he wants. If you cant be bought him and his pack of dogs will wear you down and take it from you.
                                                                                                                              March 26/18

Construction Savoy
Pauldine ( cahill building ) , no silt traps, no abs. survey posted, no demo permit posted, no demo permits posted , no construction fence built, for starts !

YMCA Building. No demo, No building permit, No Dumpster permit , No ASB. PERMIT or SURVEY ? No silt fence around construction area !
Complaint goes to the New York State Dept Of Labor! Make your calls , taxpayers ! Mine goes in tomorrow, and for your info, there is a union construction worker ( active ) in the forth ward, that should be all over this, but is this another barlow puppet ?

Power grabbing is in full effect, might be time to PUSH BACK !
                                                                                                                              March 26/18

Who is this Mr. Kurt is it a guy from code enforcement ?
Bell put in all new windows at the east CASH carwash and I didnt see any permit

                                                                                                                              March 26/18








Today's Quote March 25/2018

In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.
Martin Luther King, Jr.

Scriba to build Auschwitz?
Riverside Cemetery to bring us “Pollution Abatement Services” part 2. Remember when everyone was happy about that new business “Pollution Abatement Services!” I don’t think any of those leaders are bragging about it today. Oh that is right most of them have passed or moved away.

River City brings us Riverside Crematorium. Who else would place a crematorium next to the major highway entering the city to showcase the wonders of our local community? When something goes wrong anyone entering the city will be able to see the smoke rising from the building burning bodies. Kind of reminds one of how Auschwitz must have looked from a distance. Good going the legislature, the city fathers and Scriba don’t seem to be worried. Does that puzzle anyone besides myself?

According to the Oswego Shopper a town meeting will be held to discuss a Crematorium being built in Scriba. Local residents have organized as a group called, “Concerned Oswego River Residents.” The article stated that the cemetery was offered $20,000 to relocate the site. The cemetery board refused it stating is was “infeasible.” In fact, later in the article it states to move the location would cost upwards of $200,000. That would be payable by local residents. I have been in construction for almost forty years. I have never seen a brand new building with no infrastructure in place that couldn’t be build for about the same price someplace else. Wake up folks sounds like Scriba is about to get the big one up the kester.

On Wednesday March 14, 2018 the town of Scriba is holding a public hearing on the new riverside crematorium. A few questions need to be answered that people should be asking:

1. Where do the members of the “Riverside Cemetery Board,” live? Only one of them lives in Scriba.

2. Can we see the cost estimates of how the board calculated that they can’t profit if the crematorium is located at the phoenix office park? It seems strange that the cost of gas paid for by the funeral homes to bring the body to the location and pick up the can afterwards would cost so much.

3. Brian Klefbeck is on the board at Riverside. Is he going to be allowed to bid to construct the building? Shouldn’t a homebuilder and I use that term loosly and board member be excluded from this project?

4. If the town board agrees to approve it who will inspect the project? I know that the present code enforcement doesn’t have the background to do this properly? Especially if Brian Klefbeck gets the bid!
                                                                                                                              March 25/18


There is none in the ,CITY,COUNTY, nowhere , we dont even know who is running the CITY!!!!!!!! I agree 100% with the person with the 13 points, and hiring out softball, GO TO FULTON . I don"t know where we are getting all this money that is being spent (OR WASTED). Watch the council meetings on tv and you seeSEVEN BOBBLE HEADS . What is going on ???????? PLEASE SOME ONE TELL US WHO IS RUNNING THIS CITY !!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                                                                                              March 25/18

Ref: School Shootings on March 23-24 Post.
It is quite apparent that this is the individual that posted in a previous editorial that stated "School kids know nothing about guns" now states "that School kids do know about guns" " They are the ones doing all the shootings" Are you using sarcasim when you state " The protest are working well"? I most certainly shall hope not! You state that they should start " PROSTESTING THEMSELVES" If you are stating this because it's the kids that are doing the School Shootings? I most certainly hope that what you meant was that they should start PROTECTING THEMSELVES. If you meant protesting themselves you are blaming every innocent Child thats looking out for not only themselves, but for every other innocent Child. Your hash comments are very harsh and Daffy like you appear to be. I am sure when our forefathers wrote in the Constitution the "Right to bear arms" there weren't any of these assault weapons of mass destruction. These items are war items and don't belong in the hands of anyone other than the Military. It never ceases to amaze me how ignorant some people on this issue can be. Sometimes people with these minds such as putting guns over people lives can be just as dangerous as the ones toting these weapons around. Guns of any kind should never be put above a human life.
                                                                                                                              March 25/18

Ref: School Shootings on March 23-24 Post.
It is quite apparent that this is the individual that posted in a previous editorial that stated "School kids know nothing about guns" now states "that School kids do know about guns" " They are the ones doing all the shootings" Are you using sarcasim when you state " The protest are working well"? I most certainly shall hope not! You state that they should start " PROSTESTING THEMSELVES" If you are stating this because it's the kids that are doing the School Shootings? I most certainly hope that what you meant was that they should start PROTECTING THEMSELVES. If you meant protesting themselves you are blaming every innocent Child thats looking out for not only themselves, but for every other innocent Child. Your hash comments are very harsh and Daffy like you appear to be. I am sure when our forefathers wrote in the Constitution the "Right to bear arms" there weren't any of these assault weapons of mass destruction. These items are war items and don't belong in the hands of anyone other than the Military. It never ceases to amaze me how ignorant some people on this issue can be. Sometimes people with these minds such as putting guns over people lives can be just as dangerous as the ones toting these weapons around. Guns of any kind should never be put above a human life.
                                                                                                                              March 25/18

Why is the City of Oswego, NY ...
in contract with a private contractor ?

Why is a no brain , like KURT ( knows nothing about construction ) , bangs on doors, without hard hat, no I. D. badge, lack of showing what the complaint is and who filed it !

And Mr. KURT, why are you not going after the lead paint, abs. buildings, NO CONSTRUCTION FENCE ( Cahill building, YMCA BUILDING, for starts ) ! And, if there is a asb. removal in progress, it has to be posted with the city, county, and state and the site was to be inspected , and air monitored prior to permit release !

City Hall, Aldermen, board of education, Mayor, tells, bells, supper of schools ( mini me ) have NO CLUE to what is needed, and construction know how is behind 50 years !

And please tell me how mr. kurt and bells, and tells, with NO CONSTRUCTION EDUCATION, are in the position that they are in ?

And another dirt week that might happen this fall, who pays for the water ( once again , no meter, but if there was a flat rate contracted, show the taxpayers the contract ).

I am not a fan of the DEMS. , but even they can do better than this !

Goey, time for you and your made up debts. to go !

Build a vocational high school that was suppose to happen forty years ago !

Tells, Bells, Kurt,Barlow, Rudder, Broadwell, Pauline, Avery, Chase, Fire Chief and all the other sucking leaches, your two face, power grabbing, please bow to me attitude crab is going to end ! Time to start calling the aldermen and demand backbone and taxpayer voice !
                                                                                                                              March 25/18

Duh Greg
Even after all of the police pressure used to extract a positive
identification of the van, the People now try to bolster that identification
by fabricating the record. In their response, the People state that Bivens
“identified the van by appearance as well as by a portion of its license
plate.” RB 52. This is not true. Nowhere in any of Bivens’s police
statements or trial testimony does he ever provide a partial license plate
number of the van he observed at the scene of Allen’s abduction. Well, well Greg Oakes your filing is filled with lie after lie. Fabrications of the facts. To make your story seem like it makes more sense. Even with this fabrication you forget Mr. S, gave a totally different license plate number "PU". By your filing two different plate numbers. LOL are you suggesting there were two vans on the road that morning. Either way you have been caught red handed lying. Who ever wrote your filing please Greg feel free to slap the shit out of them. They made you look like a fool.
                                                                                                                              March 25/18





Today's Quote March 23-24/2018

"My universe is composed of pink matter"
-Hugh Hefner-

Scriba Town Inn patrons
I would like to address the couple who pulled up to Scriba town inn in their 4 door reddish colored Chevrolet Silverado on 3/22/18. I noticed how thirsty you both looked as you headed inside the bar for your late afternoon libations. I also noticed the golden retriever that longingly watched after you as you left him to his own devices in the bed of your truck.
I only wish you felt about your dog as he does for you both. I should make you aware that number one it is extremely dangerous to drive around with a dog on the outside of a vehicle for what to most of us would be obvious reasons. I would also like to make you aware that that along with drinking and driving added to that is much worse. If I had the time on Thursday I would have loved to wait outside Scriba meats where I witnessed your selfish acts from and called the police and turned you in.
It truly shows that not only do you disregard human life by drinking and driving you disregard the life of your dog by making him lay in the back of a cold truck when I'm sure he could have been left home safe away from the possibility of being thrown from the truck of his selfish owner as well as being possibly abused or stolen from your truck .
I would like to let you know even though I think you are both selfish human beings and thoughtless I want to remind you of the love that your loyal four legged companion has for you both. You owe it to him to return the favor. Remember his love never strays and because he would give his life for you doesn't mean he should give it in vain for your foolishness.
In closing I want to make you aware that I was going to put your license plate number on this site but instead I will often be around that area and if I see this again I will call 911 and let them deal with your DWI instead which I will personally see to that there is an animal cruelty charge added to.

Sincerely, The Watchman
                                                                                                                              March 23-24/18

The Mayor Is Picking Fights
Pauldine ( ymca building ) does not have

1 . building permit

2. demo permit

3.dumpster permit

4. asbestos permit ( which has not been posted, because he does not have one ) thank you mr bell,mr mayor, aldermen , kurt ( another clueless code enforcement pin head with NO CONSTRUCTION SAVAY OR EDUCATION )

5. The city cannot perform work, inspect properties , with out permission on private ( non income ) Properties !

6. if there is a complaint, the city has to tell who the complainer is

7. And how come taxpayers pay for snow removal on tax exempt properties ( like simmon dewitt ) in which they pay NO TAXES !

8. And how come snow gets removed at paul's Big M ? ( for starts ) by the oswego, ny DPW ?

9. And why would the aldermen approve a 15 year contract ( dpw ) for anyone ?

10. So you have a dpw comm. , jason rudurick, mayor, city lawyer, under perfoming, why would we want them back at city hall?

11. And please , look at the aldermen, no construction savvy and the backbone, math and the lack of being able to answer their phone shows
their lack of thought and the ability to see a scam !

12. Hey Kurt, who told you to go after the owners of the 1850 house. They have been in compliance, and unlike getting monies from jason rudurick , the mayor. broad well, tells, bell, the city lawyer, they have been paying out of their own private monies ! and heck, maybe even the supper of schools is this on this power grading plan !

13. keep in mind, anyone that crosses the 33”-0” rule is trepassing, and the city of oswego, ny will be open for lawsuit ! Nice job city lawyer, where did you get your law degree, "TOYS ARE US” ?
                                                                                                                              March 23-24/18


Moe Todd
He is conveniently retiring just before the Heidi Allen case is about to bust wide open.
Now he will have more time to piss away his money on lottery tickets and Turningstone.
His gambling habit must cost at least fifth thousand a year.
                                                                                                                              March 23-24/18



This questions to Robert Wheeler. If you weren't a part of this b.s. case. Why then did you run from Investigator Haumamn and put yourself behind locked doors, so he couldn't question you. Upon fleeing you said. I'll quote you "You people want to put me in prison " don't you think you belong there? Bohrer speaks of you in his writings. He said you were showing cocaine symptoms on the stand and that Wheelers business was no good anymore. What business do you have with Bohrer? Cocaine? Is that why Bohrer knew you and called the sheriff's back then screaming "I know what happened to Heidi call Bobby Wheeler." We all know Bobby all about you. Your little b.s. in this case. Thank your buddy Bohrer that may be why "you think you people want to put you in prison." Not any fun is it. When the shoes on the right foot. Imagine Mr. Wheeler the Thibodeaus felt just as you do. Terrified. But theirs was for just cause. Everyone knows your dirty as hell. I'm sure Rainy could confirm a lot more of your back ground should we send them her way? Seeing as you messed w her life also. I think you'd deserve that much. Ooops didn't think we knew who she was. We sure as hell do. How many lives have you destroyed on your lies? Can you count them on your fingers and toes? I think not. You sir deserve a nice little cell right along side Steen. No conscience, no integrity and no dignity your cell will be in hell where you truly belong. Cause in the end you'll face your maker. You think it's bad here. You haven't seen anything yet. If I were you Mr wheeler. Id start wheeling and dealing. Because Steve Wilco is about to rock OZ and he is coming for all of you. The people he's tied to are going to put you in prison along side your little goons. Clocks ticking Wheeler the hunt for Bohrer has begun.
                                                                                                                              March 16/18

Interesting! Most of his defense arguments against Bohrer, Steen and Breckenridge would suite Gary Thibodeau. Is Defense not challenging enough? Would he rather get the adrenalin rush from putting together lies and twisting the facts to win? Or is he a pawn that can’t think for himself?

“repeated lies don’t make it true” That’s the most hypocritical quote from your legal position. What lies have you, personally, told that you claim is the Truth? Some have already been public.

You signed off on those filings/briefings so I hope you get the extreme wrath of Justice when the ‘legal system’ catches on to your blatant lies in legal documents.

Not a personal pleasure at your eventual downfall, but for Justice’s sake. Then, sadly that it happened in the first place, Gary can be added to the long list of exonerees of false convictions due to prosecutorial misconduct and biased investigations happening all over the country. #freegary Kudos to ALL who stand up against the corruption in OZ.
                                                                                                                                March 16/18




Today's Quote March 14-15/2018

The better I get to know men, the more I find myself loving dogs.
Charles de Gaulle

Gary "The Innocent" Thibodeau
Just read the prosecution brief for the Appeal dated March 2018… https://www.nycourts.gov/ctapps/courtpass/Public_search.aspx

You claim that Mr. Neville Sr’s testimony bolsters Mr. Fabian’s. PPfft. And what did we find out when the Defense questioned him during trial?.....That Mr. Neville Sr. was NOT the one who drove to the store the morning of April 3, 1994. In Fact, it was Neville Jr. who drove to the store. Wasn’t Jr. the one who called a lead about a weird phone call he received at his residence about where Heidi may have been and he didn’t recognize the callers voice? What is up with that? Did Law enforcement even investigate his lead and didn’t the jurors think anything fishy was going on? Also, wasn’t Neville Jr. in trouble with the law at the time of Heidi’s disappearance?

Yuuup..”the Da must have had something to get that far” but it surely didn’t become apparent, or PROVEN, if you will, in the Court of Law. law enforcement and the DA's office had months and months long media campaign to taint the public about whomever they accused. Not to mention the lies and dastardly games played with the Grand Jury. Yuuup…was a circumstantial case but the evidence DID NOT fit the twisted Facts.

-Real Fact-“no morphological details that suggest human remains” in the furnace debris. Twisted Fact-there were bone fragments in the furnace that 'could' have been Heidi.
-Real Fact-not one of 6 cadaver dogs indicated human remains on Gary’s property. No remains found after 2, that’s 2, searches of Gary’s property. Twisted Fact-The inmates guessed/surmised/theorized that Heidi was burned and buried on Gary’s property because the outside burn barrel was seized during the first property search while Gary was in the MA jail.
-Real Fact-Richard’s van was extensively searched and samples sent to the FBI lab on April 9, 1994 with no indication that Heidi was ‘ever’ in the van. Twisted Fact-Richard’s van was seen at a car wash on April 26, 1994.
-Real Fact-piece of carpet was missing from Richards van between April 9 and 26 which was found, determined to be the missing piece from the van, tested for DNA and revealed canine blood. Twisted Fact-the “rolled object” that a witness reported supposedly seeing the brothers carrying into the woods ‘could’ have had Heidi in it.
-Real Fact- Gary had 2 witnesses plus his (future) wife that gave alibis for April 2 and April 3, in addition to Richards albis. Twisted Fact-A bartender (who was also in trouble with the LAW) claims to have positively seen the brothers at a bar but told her boss she didn’t know the men who were in the bar on April 2.
-Real Fact-Gary and Sharon were in Oswego, NY between April 3-5, 1994 as evidenced by OCSD noting Caddy at residence in the evening of April 3 and receipts from the Oswego area during April 3-5. Sharon’s perjury charge for lying about their whereabouts on April 3-5 was DISMISSED. Sharon was acquitted for lying about where Gary was on April 3, 1994. Gary’s Caddy was searched in 1995. Twisted Fact-they drove to MA on April 3-5 with Heidi in the trunk.
-Real Fact- Richard had been dropped off at a job site in Liverpool. No evidence of Heidi was found in woods where 2 men were seen carrying a rolled object. Twisted Fact-Heidi may have been in the rolled rug from Richards van being seen at about 10:30am being brought into woods by Gary and Richard.
-Real Fact-none of the implements confiscated from Gary’s property had any human material on it. Twisted Fact- an army-type fold up shovel was found during a ground search and left where it lay AND a shovel from a retired detective’s van (witnessed by a reporter) had “skeletal muscle” on it.
-Real Fact-Bivens made 3 different police statements about the color, make and model of the van he supposedly saw the 2 men and one woman approaching the morning of April 3, 1994. Twisted Fact-Bivens was touted as an auto expert because he worked at an auto parts store.

-Real Fact-Bivens did not come forward with his observations until after the reward was announced. He lied on insurance questionnaires about an auto accident he was in in October 1993.
-Real Fact-The jail inmate, Baldasaro, received probation for VOP in which Florida Probation was requesting incarceration. Twisted Fact-the inmates only received compensation for room and travel for their testimony.
-Real Fact-Gary received time served for the charge in MA. Twisted Fact-Gary was arrested for drug trafficking in MA.
-Real Fact-The inmates would eavesdrop on Gary’s phone conversation while in jail and then ask him questions. Twisted Fact-Gary “confessed”.
-Real Fact-Heidi was on the employee schedule which was in customer view. Mrs. Duell and Mrs. Allen testified that Heidi “was scheduled to work” on April 3, 1994. Twisted Fact-At the last minute, Heidi volunteered to work April 3 because a co-worker could not.
-REAL FACT-Heidi was a CI for law enforcement, gave names and drug of choice of high schoolers to law enforcement Before she disappeared. Twisted Fact-Heidi informed on Gary and that’s “what she was going to screw him” about---drugs.
-Real Fact-there were 2 pre-trial Hearings- a Huntley and Sandoval. Twisted Fact-favorable prosecution evidence was suppressed.
-Real Fact-Mrs. Duell did not testify to EVERY transaction on the register tape . No other witnesses claimed the store was unattended between 6:35am when Brett supposedly left and 7:55am. Twisted Fact-The inmates testified that Gary told them he took Heidi from the store to near his house and Richard, only, brought her back to the store.
-Real Fact-Disinterested witness testifies to hearing and seeing nothing unusual about Richards van go by his property on Route 104 heading toward D&W and on the way back. Twisted Fact-Richards van was speeding and swerving as it went by.
-Real Fact-Richard purchased 2 packs of generic cigarettes. Paying with 4 $1 bills. No money was unaccounted for and law enforcement allowed the till to be deposited instead of sending for forensic testing. Twisted Fact-Register showing $1.38 (which would have been change from a $5) was the last register transaction.
-Real Fact-Mr. Swenszkowsi did not notice anyone in the van as he walked by the man that got out the drivers side. Twisted Fact-Someone other than Richard moved the van after Mr. Swenszkowski got a cigarette from the pack he just purchased and was preparing to leave.
-Real Fact-The tire mark in the D&W parking lot did not belong to Richards van. Twisted Fact-the mark was from Richards van after kidnapping Heidi.
-Real fact- The first register transaction was for 4:06am when the register was turned on. Twisted Fact-Heidi and Brett arrived at the D&W at 5:55am, turning the register on and changing the time for DST.
-Real Fact-Heidi's CI information was 'found' in evidence stored in Sheriff's garage in May 1995, right before Gary's trial began. Twisted Fact-Law enforcement denies to the public that Heidi was a CI.
-Real Fact-Dodd denies Heidi's CI status at a pre-trial Hearing in December 1994 (and via the media) even though Sergeant Lortie (of the CID unit) wrote a report on April 27, 1994 of personal knowledge that Heidi was "signed up" with parental consent. Twisted Fact-Heidi wasn't 'used' as a CI in a criminal case or criminal investigation.

Any other Real Facts?? How many uncorroborated theories does that make about the brothers being involved?

Well…it’s no wonder the DA doesn’t want to agree to another trial-He Will Lose!! Want to know the Truth for yourself, just read the DA's Statement of Facts and related documents and compare to the Defense's filings. It's all written in black and white.
                                                                                                                                March 15/18

From Oakes’ briefing for the Court of Appeals-

“Significantly, neither of these men received any benefit for their testimony (i.e
more favorable plea or sentence). There was no quid pro quo in exchange for their
testimony, so there was no incentive for them to falsely implicate Appellant. (SA
494, 524-26, 563, 573).”

“While Appellant disparages their testimony and characterizes them as nothing more than jail house
snitches, they received no consideration for their testimony. Further, in evaluating
their reliability, it's worth noting that neither man claimed that Appellant directly
admitted to kidnapping and killing Heidi Allen.”

Then, Oakes, where did the handwritten notes of Mr. Baldasaro (previously posted on this site on December 2, 2017) getting probation instead of jail time as Florida Probation department recommended come from?

So, Todd, the legal narrative is that “neither man claimed that Appellant directly
admitted to kidnapping and killing Heidi Allen.” Why are you publicly saying that Gary confessed?

I pray that both you law enforcement “agents”, along with Dodd, Wheeler, Yerdon, etc… are made to atone for breaking God’s Laws. “Thou shalt not bear false witness”.

April 26 is just around the corner.
                                                                                                                                March 15/18

Gooeye said the publicity campaing promoting the school budget did not work as expected. Whai I want to know is why did the budget need a publicity campaign in the first place. Who’s idea was it. Who was in charge of it and how much did it cost the taxpayers?
                                                                                                                                March 12/18


I am curious to know if ANYONE out there has any information about hiring/firing practices currently at Oswego Health. I had heard some time ago that while A. Gilpen was there that there was quite a turnover of employees and disruptions of employment. It is now under the guidance of M. Harlovic and it appears that the same is true. Personally know of two employees with substantial years of service (one 32 and the other over 40) showing up for work and being escorted to the door and made to surrender their badges. There are more I am told just not that I am personally knowledgable of. What is going on there? There has to be a reader on this site that knows something that is willing to share. I also know of people with multitudes of experience trying to get hired there to no avail. Just curious......They were quoted in the paper as wanting to hire local....well, I dont see that to be true....

Super glad to see OCSD budget proposal got voted down. Sam Tripp's letter was a joke. Goey is a joke...how the idiot got to be super is beyond me...Blatantly made fun of a black woman while principal at Riley and now sits in the supers chair. And his father is the one who hired his wife as a teacher at RIley while he was principal there....This district is a joke. It is not and never has been about the kids so who are they trying to bullshit...

Code enforcement???? just a big effin joke. nuf said...Who's fat ass is going to get out and measure the length of someone's grass or how deep their snow is???? I really thought Billy was going to be good for this city but his true colors come out more and more everyday. Look at all the vacant properties in this city with nothing being done except, occasional fire set by either the landlords, disgrunted tenant or the fire department to cushion their pensions...thought that shit was going to stop as well....

                                                                                                                                March 12/18

Reply to Dodd n Oakes
Yes they think the public's stupid. All they do is attempt to dig up dirt on everyone else. To deny their own dirt they are trying to hide. Sickening. If Heidis case doesn't tell you how much the average citizens life matters. Nothing will. Any CI for OZ your better off dealing w a punishment than putting your life on the line for those who could care less your helping them. Heidis life obviously doesn't matter her CI Status obviously was lied about. Still is. Like she was nothing. She may not have mattered to them but she mattered to many just as Gary mattered but notice only they matter. That's why anyone who goes against them. They simply lie about also and tarnish anyone reputation by saying that persons crazy. Sick it really is very sickening for the public to support this case, conviction and pathetic stories they dish out about everyone who's tried to help these families. Oakes if anything happens to the one witness you exposed as a potential other CI 4 years ago. Which is not public info. You should be held fully responsible. You publically exposed another witness who was trying to give info as a CI. VERY DANGEROUS. BUT WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU CARE. NO ONE MATTERS BUT YOUR BUDDIES IN HIGHER POWER IN OZ.
                                                                                                                                March 12/18

Brett Law
Brett Law is a liar. Brett knew didn't you Brett?? Don't lie now Brett..It's obvious you were well aware.
                                                                                                                        February 22/18

Gary's Book.
Gary and his family have editors helping build his book. It's based off all facts, court documents, and every ounce of information produced by every angle of this injustice. It's coming very soon. It has a web site built to let the reader interact with each chapter. This is gonna make OZ look like the twilight zone.
Once it's live, ready, will post the link to you great folks. It'll be available for download and paperback edition. There are 3 books in total as the story is too long to detail all in one book. We begin with Manna from Heaven and take you back to 1994-1995. Thibodeaus are very excited they finally have a voice.
To the Allen's your daughter was not a coke head and to support the DA you are supporting the theory she was a druggie and an adultres. I pray you stop supporting a theory that destroys the true reputation and life Heidi built. She was an outstanding young lady and that will be portrayed through out Gary's book. God forgive you for supporting the idea she was a druggie. With no facts to support the DA you stood by this. Gary's book will reflect the real truth. Not reflect as Heidis sisters book has. No facts, no truth and not an ounce of knowledge to this case.
                                                                                                                        February 22/18

Gary Thibodeau....The Death Of Common Sense
Reading the latest on this web I believe the case really surrounds the first people at the store. A lot of their stories don't make sense. Not seeing anyone, any cars but then one guy sees a kidnapping but the other guy who was there earlier doesn't.

There are a number of suspicious events: Person who sent Steen text.."CYA Heidi". It sure seems that he knew Steen was involved doesn't it? and he doesn't know who sent it from his phone...hard to believe.

Stinson's story still baffles me...think about it.

Swenkowski saw Richard leave ALONE...at 7:42-7:43 but his truck was seen by neighbors 2 minutes after that...impossible.

I really believe that if he wins, he will win the next trial. Will Lisa opt for a trial without a jury? And will the FBI investigate the OCSD actions as they are obviously corrupt. Almost to the unbelievable.
                                                                                                                           February 17-18/18

Wow, If This Budget Is True..
the members of the board of education, for the past 20 years , super of schools, might be guilty of bad math, wrong person in charge of education ( Cathy C ) ,wasting taxpayers monies, members of the board missing the picture of voc high school , and lacking in money deception ! but I will bet, if one of them gets short change on a food order, they will be quick to point it out !

Would like to see the super of schools pay, beneifit pay out, cell phone charges, vechile ?, petty cash ? charge card ? Health insurance , is this also covering his wife ? I hear she gets $ 250,000.00 also ! so are we having a over lap in insurance ?

But is this Building game nothing more that to cover monies in the school district. over bad accounting and free spending in their lack of economics and back bone to see who is stealing and who is dumb !
                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18

Brett Law LIAR
Brett tells officers in 94 Heidi feared no one. Why is it Brett changed his story 20 years later. Now claiming Heidi feared a coke head who was in and out of jail? Why would her own boyfriend lie so bad about something that could have helped lead them to Heidi? That could have changed the course of so many lives? One could conclude Brett knows far more than he leads on. Brett how is it you've lived all these years, with not an ounce of guilt to your part in the lies that incarcerated an innocent human being? Sick bastard. There is a pretty place in hell for you and your buddies. If you think citizens aren't aware of your relationship in 94 with the original probable suspect the super hero writer the big, big guy you couldn't be more wrong. As many have already reported and confirmed your relationship with Garys attorney. Truth is you are both assholes, with no conscience. . http://www.syracuse.com/crime/index.ssf/2015/09/a_first_in_heidi_allen_kidnapping_


                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18

Gary's day
The People, Respondent, v. Gary Thibodeau, Appellant.
                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18




Mr. Oakes:

Correct me if I’m wrong, I don’t recall Dodd’s lying “eyewitness” EVER mentioning in any police statement or court testimony that the girl he “knew” was Heidi was or was not wearing a jacket when he supposedly witnessed the struggle.  He sure did mention her chest though!!  Funny…he noticed that but not what kind of shirt or jacket she may have been wearing?!?  How dare you twist Mr. Pierce’s statements and testimony to fit your agenda.  Fact that you didn’t accurately convey in your brief to the Appeals Court-Mr. Pierce drew a beard on Gary’s newspaper photo in 1994 and “thought it was close enough” so he didn’t come forward then.  Never crossed your pea mind that a young looking mugshot of Steen from 6 years prior to Heidi’s disappearance was inappropriate?  You did mention that the photo of Steen was 6 years prior in your filing…makes one wonder why YOU didn’t take it upon yourself, seeing that you question the integrity of the lead investigator-Mr. Petriski-to find a photo closer to April 1994.  Can’t do that but would-Fact-sit in on an interview with a witness who tells you and Petriski what she knew happened to Heidi?!?!


Mr. Bivens was torn limb from limb on the stand…pleading the fifth about lying on an insurance form…yet the jury believed his “eyewitness” account???  Yeah!, he’s a real stand-up guy…coming forward AFTER the reward was offered and by pressure from his significant other.  Nothing to gain for testimony??...Yeah right.  Just like Mr. Baldasaro received no benefit.  Which is another lie.  May I refer you to the handwritten notes from the ADA’s, previously posted on this site, to the clear/concise explanation that Mr. Baldasaro was to be given probation in opposition to Florida’s Probation Department recommendation that he be jailed.


You think you are so smart and have loyalty from others in Oswego??  Just wait until reelection time when You are not endorsed because you followed orders about fighting Gary’s exoneration that resulted in the public getting the Truth!!  You are the one with egg on your face.  Well, not the only one…Judge Donnie Dodd should be sanctioned for his part and Mr. Rule Todd as well!!  Good Luck…though it seems in politics, constituents have to pick between the lesser of two evils instead of the most qualified.  When is election?  I won’t be voting for you.


I sleep on a soft pillow.  What about YOU?



On To You

                                                                                                                            February 10/18   







Today's Quote February 9/2018

In our Country... one class of men makes war and leaves another to fight it out.
William Tecumseh Sherman

Pennsylvania's Supreme Court Explains Why It Struck Down Congressional Map Favoring GOP

                                                                                                                           February 9/18

Deputy Curtis
The 745 time comes from the officer who reached the scene first. Whom was waved down by Stitson. What Curtis doesn't comprehend by his 745 testimony. Is he put himself on the scene at the exact time Bivens would be passing the store. Bivens left east 2nd street at 730. It's 16 minutes from point a to point b. Putting Bivens on scene at the same exact time 745/746 (This does not included stops n gos at all stop lights heading out of Oswego as he stated). Stitson tells you on scene time was 758, later changed to 755, again changed by Curtis at 745. Then you have Fabian whom left her home in Fulton N.Y. at 712 am. 22 minutes from there to where she spotted the van on 104/69 placing this van at that location by 734. Mr.Nevill also left his home at 730, it's 4 miles from his house to the corner of 104/69 putting the van again at that very spot Fabian says by 734. Way before Richard Thibodeau ever arrived at the store and cashed out at 742. So 2 witnesses place a speeding van at the same spot at the same time of 734, Curtis placed himself on scene with Stitson and Bivens. Then you have the young girl whom claims to have seen Richards van by Gary's home at 748. Leaving 6 minutes to travel at estimated 15 miles. Putting the speed of the van at 150 mph. Then there's Baldasaro who says they picked Heidi up by the check out time of 742, drove to Gary's and back to the store, by 745. Leaving 3 minutes to travel 30 miles. Putting the speed then of this van at a whooping 300 mph. Fact check it Greg. Every ounce of these times came straight from your filing. Every drop of this is your own filing. That you never fact checked or did an estimate for time travel. You have 2 witnesses spotting a van 8 minutes before your scheduled kidnapping. 1 witness that saw the kidnapping at the exact time your officer testified to being on the scene. The only one dead on with the time is MR.S cashing out at 741, 11 minutes exactly from point a to the store from which he traveled from. Cashing him out at exactly 741. He is the only one that's dead on. Then there's Sheriff Nellis whom states on scene time was 758. Which Sheriffs lying?
By Greg's filing this is the time line
734 Fabian spots a van
734 Nellis spots a van
741 Stitson arrives sees nothing
742 Richard kidnaps Heidi
745 Curtis on scene
745/746 Bivens passes the store says he witnessed the kidnapping
748 Richards vans seen at Gary's
Either way you see it. By your own filing Greg. It's all IMPOSSIBLE
                                                                                                                           February 9/18





Today's Quote February 8/2018

A lie would have no sense unless the truth were felt dangerous.

Alfred Adler

Greg Oakes out right lied in his filing.
He writes the on scene time was 745 am. The actual first report for the on scene time by Sheriff Nellis was 758. It later changed to 755. But in Greg's filing he has on scene time as 745. Here's another kicker. Bivens left his house at 730 am per reports, hitting every stop light out of Oswego. It's 16 minutes from his address to dnw store which puts bivens on scene at 746. So Greg why not tell these great citizens how your officers on scene per your filing at the same exact time your eye witness and your witness Stitson was on scene. You can't. Because you can't. You'd think you'd readjust your entire botched lying fraudulent case. Here's the proof. All lies Greg. I pray you are disbarred for filing false information.








Bohrer A Marine??
If you read any of Bohrer own Heidi triangles writings. He insists he was a former marine.

                                                                                                                       January 1/18

Re: Death of Common Sense
Bohrer writes in his notes that were seized. Kiki, coke dealer. Kiki was a massive, larger than Bohrer drug dealer. Often running to none other than N.Y. city and back. His real names. Maximo Kiki Sanchez. Funny how he is arrested right after Heidi becomes a Ci and inbetween the time she vanishes. Highly dangerous, a criminal record longer than Oakes and Dodds lies. Its obvious Bohrer is linked to him, notes him in his Heidi Triangle book. But yet the Sheriff's play dumb on who he is. Maybe that's why Fulton PD brought him down in 93. So is this the man everyone seemed to fear? Including Heidi? Kiki is the only coke dealer listed in any notes, papers or documents anywhere. Its logical to lean towards YES it's quit possible. Seeing as the CI who did bring him down was also terrified of this man. Anyone hear of this fella before?

                                                                                                                       January 1/18

Funny Bohrer indeed has this man's name in his paper work. Funny the man's a coke dealer that word pops Up a lot in this.

Jail term
OSWEGO — Maximo "KikT
Sanchez, 39, of 149 E. Cayuga St.,
—Qswego. was sentenced Monday in
County Court on charges of thirddegree
criminal sale of a controlled
substance and third-degree criminal
possession of a controlled
Sanchez was sentenced by Judge
John Elliou to a maximum of nine
years, minimum of three years in
Elmira State Correctional Facility.
He was also assessed a $155
surcharge. , • <
Sanchez was originally indicted
on 22 drug-related charges. According
to court documents, Sanchez
possessed and sold .87 grams of
cocaine for $80 while at his residence.
He also sold 1.07 grams of
cocaine on March 13 at his residence,
according to court
On Jan. 15 Sanchez sold 2.60
cocaine on Jan. 20, according tocourt
records. On Jan. 23 he allegedly
possessed 4.52 grams of
cocaine. _^ —
                                                                                                                       January 1/18

Today's Quote December 27/2017

'Tis not enough to help the feeble up, but to support them after.
William Shakespeare

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Someone posted about NYS investigating the Thibodeau case.....NOT TRUE
                                                                                                                        December 27/17

Smithsonian report for evidence in Heidi's case

                                                                                                                        December 27/17

Yep, tourism is the answer over a 52 a week jobs !
                                                                                                                        December 27/17






Please post the report from the Smithsonian Department of Anthropology regarding the evidence for the Heidi Allen case.

Couple questions:

Did the FBI agent that testified for the defense, Christopher Allen, read this document out loud during Gary's trial? And what does "but there are no morphological details that suggest a human origin." mean?

Also, why didn't the Defense call in a cremation specialist or have any kind of expert in human body disintegration?

One simple question to the FBI agent, who gave a partial true answer, and there is the belief that Heidi (could have) was burned in an outside burn barrel/pit.

What did the inmate supposedly tell Gary...that teeth don't burn? Jurors, you believed the inmates testimony, so.....why weren't TEETH found or reported by the Smithsonian? **slapping forehead** That's right, the Thibodeau's sifted through the burnt material, removing only what was human bone but leaving the burnt bone material that was what they testified to...animal bones, specifically chicken (as testified). Just like they must have had plastic in the van when Heidi was taken to justify no DNA in Richard's van. Right Dodd....the "cleaning" of the van...that In Fact happened AFTER the April 9, 1994 complete forensic exam of the van. Dodd.........the jurors could make up theories with no evidence but they didn't have the higher thinking that because there was no evidence pointing to the DA's and Sheriff's theory being correct that, In Fact, it makes the theories INCORRECT?

HHmmmm, they must have had their man then even though nothing truthfully fits.? The timeline doesn't fit with Richards movements the morning of April 3, 1994. No DNA evidence fits with a violent struggle taking place in the van. Verifiable alibi witnesses don't fit with Richard and Gary being together on April 3, 1994-Gary's adult neighbors witnesses didn't even ID Richards van at Gary's on April 3, 1994. No teeth or any other positive human remains were on Gary's property, via negative indications from multiple cadaver dogs on Gary's property and the Smithsonian report. "everyone would agree that Heidi wouldn't leave the store unattended". Then why do some people believe the inmates when they testified that Gary and Richard took Heidi to near Gary's while she was working alone?

Come on jurors...if you had known about Dan Barney being listed as "probably suspect" or that Michael Bohrer had been interviewed by the FBI and OCSD was competent to get his criminal past in 1995, would that have tipped the scales for you to acquit because the DA did not prove anything "beyond a reasonable doubt".

Merry Christmas Gary and Richard and all your family. Praying for Justice and Peace and Repentance and Healing for All Involved.
                                                                                                                        December 24/17

“no morphological details” Basically that means there was nothing, ie. ash, particles, cells, DNA molecules, smell or spirit that was human in origin. The bit about burning the body in a stove was as reliable as the rest of

the snitches story.

Reply to 3 Amigos
I read back in 2014 that someone said that a woman ( worked as a law clerk I believe) caught two guys in lies at the store.

1. Deputy that got flagged down said that he had to go follow the van...but according to this story, NO ONE MENTIONED A VAN!!!

Is it true , I don't know, as I thought he stayed there and called it in and inspected the area etc.

Also Sue Rodems died of a heart attack....what caused it...unknown, unless you believe the BS in Fulton.
                                                                                                                        December 21/17



How Coincidental

Richard Thibodeau attorney, called the jail house snitches Agents. Said they were working for the dept. Funny one snitch McDonald arrives inside Mass Jail the same day as Richards arrest for Heidi and Garys May arrest for Mass Jail. How odd, May 25th, 1994. National missing kids day. How sick. Sick DA Office. Even sicker sheriff dept.

                                                                                                                        December 21/17



Huge Mistake by Sheriffs

Wednesday July 27, 1994. The Herald Journal released the snitches statements. This is the issue. How did the Sheriffs obtain on the 27th Baldasaro statement dated July 31, 1994. Sheriffs made a mistake. Baldasaro never signed until 4 days after the Herald aired his written statement? Huge set up Dodd? On July 23, 1994 Dodd calls the snitches a mannia from Heaven. Unless you have ESP, or can time travel in the future Dodd, on the 23nd, 27th, Baldasaro had not written any statement. Talk about a huge set up. Huge mistake by releasing Baldasaro statement 4 days early. Would leave anyone asking how the hell Dodd knew on the 22nd about Baldasaro statement when it wasn't yet signed. Heres the proof. Ill tell you how Dodd. You set Gary up. Did not on July 23 yet have Baldasaro as a witness. The more you compare dates the more Dodds story doesn't add up. Its obvious they set Gary up intentionally was in contact witn these snitches the entire time. On June 29, 94 they siezed Garys stove. How funny it is a month later. Dodds witnesses fell from the sky claiming Gart burned Heidi in a wood stove again Dodd did your ass time travel to know in a month God was gonna drop 2 witnesses on your lap that claim the same theory with the stove you have?? How funny you sieze the stove. Then a month later seem to have witnesses to back up your lies. Total set up. You sneaky sob.




                                                                                                                        December 21/17

Today's Quote December 20/2017

Money? How did I lose it? I never did lose it. I just never knew where it went.

Edith Piaf

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
The AG office must follow procedures and writing a letter ( if true) to inform Lisa about what is going to happen...law is slow moving.

I hope the person that posted.."I got a phone call from one of the guys towing a trailer that VanPatten called for the hit"....is telling the truth.

They will probably have a hotline you can call and not give your name. If you KNOW something and it's true please let them know. It's too late for them to do anything violent as it will open up more avenues.

Please step up and do the right thing.
                                                                                                                        December 20/17

3 Amigos...
Good question. Also, does anyone know which sheriff's deputy had his/her patrol car parked for years permanently just down the hill from the D&W for years in a private driveway on 104? I always thought this was very strange.
                                                                                                                        December 20/17

3 Amigos
When Heidi came up missing....
Curtis left the store to follow pursuit....correct?
(Maybe) he was leaving the scene with Heidi in the back seat. The van might had pulled in for business, seen "something" happening, and left. Curtis now leaves with Heidi.
Anyone ever check out the cops cars for DNA.
Didn't Curtis get a new car shortly after that?
More questions!
                                                                                                                        December 19/17

State Attorney General's Office

OSWEGO, N.Y. -- "The state Attorney General's Office has begun investigating whether all evidence in the 1994 abduction of Heidi Allen in Oswego County was turned over to lawyers for the man convicted of kidnapping her.

The AG's Conviction Review Bureau filed papers this week in the Oswego County Clerk's office revealing the state prosecutors' involvement for the first time.

Assistant Attorney General Gail Heatherly, chief of the review bureau, wrote a letter last month to Thidobeau's lawyers and to prosecutors saying her office was involved "in the hope that the discovery provided and the investigation performed in this 20-year-old case is as complete as is humanly possible."

The documents include a request to local law enforcement agencies for any reports related to the case, and the police agencies' responses."


Whoppie Sh!t They wrote a letter asking the most corrupt county in the state to play fair.

                                                                                                                        December 18/17

Doj, FBI, attorney General. When have you seen them ever in upstate NY help on any case other than Doyle's? They are wondering how to save the state millions in a law suit. Pretty sick they stand on the side lines. Do NOTHING but get involved in a case State Police could have handled on their own (Doyle). Garys case, they snub their noses to it. Both attorney general and FBI are a Waiste of tax payers money. Neither dept, has done shit. It does not matter what you've seen, heard or report, they've watched this case unfold, have done NOTHING to intervene. Lisa works for DOJ. Instead the FBI up there, fiddles with pathetic cases like Doyle, to do with a teen kid, not a homocide. Heidi is null n void to them. Along with Gary. Political powers do one thing. Cover the asses of other political powers. Attorney Generals a joke. And lied to the public. They NEVER investigated. It was a lie and a farce to look good in the public eye. FBI have had 23 years to also do their job. Only one who seems to know how to do their job is Lisa.
                                                                                                                        December 15-16/17

Gary Thibodeau.....The Death Of Common Sense
I have always wondered what Mr. Swenkowski was thinking when the verdict came back as GUILTY! He saw him...alone, watched him leave...alone and never saw a kidnapping or Gary while he was there. Now I wonder just what the hell the jury was thinking...if anything at all.

I have always wondered what Mr. Stinson is thinking about how some people may ask how did you NOT see anything? You stated you were there from approx. 7:38 to 7:55 and flagged down a cop. But you stated that you never saw anyone or any cars. I have always wondered.....WHY or HOW.

I have always wondered why Mr. Biven's testimony is all over the place. The time, description of the van, description of the kidnappers ( not at all fitting the two brothers physical apperance ), changing his mind on the van he saw in and out of court. And how could you not see that a girl struggling didn't need your help?

I always wondered why Oakes' MA story was proven false (in court) but nothing was ever done about it.

I always wondered hoe Dodd could have even taken them to court without ANY evidence or witness that puts them there.

I always wondered about the cash register time, money and testimony.

I always wondered why after Jen Westcott failed a poly about a taped phone call, then went back in and said she was told what happened to Heidi and mentioned a WHITE van at the house she said she never lived at and the OCSD did nothing. Also telling the cops.."after 20 years I still have to tell you there were 2 vans?

I always wondered how, why and when the OCSD decided to frame Gary T. Was it years later after they knew he was innocent and someone ( maybe a politician ) said to him we don't need a law suit ( just my opinion).

I always wondered why these were not means for more investigation: Jen Westcott stories, Deputy lying on the stand, evidence withheld,, Oakes telling Lisa P. that he didn't have very much confidence in INTEGRITY of the OCSD investigation and all the other things that makes people think...COVER UP!

I am still wondering if the FBI is coming to town, God knows they all gave enough lopsided info and failed to continue a still open case.

I wonder what the FBI, DOJ and the NYS Atty General's council is...well WONDERING!
                                                                                                                        December 15-16/17

Ding Dong. You’re wrong….Oaks
Steen was “likely falsely boasting”. Based on what FACTS? Did he pass a lie detector? What about 3 cadaver dog indications near an area similarly described by his “boasting”? What about Bohrer? Was he given a test, too? And it didn’t concern you that he knew and had so much information from around the time of the disappearance? He certainly didn’t get it from social media and I highly doubt the documents he DID have were available to the public even BEFORE Gary’s trial.
Here, Oaks, is a high five to start you on your way to Investigation 101.
                                                                                                                        December 13/17

Ozwego County
The cops – lawyers – doctors – politicians in Ozwego County have abused – raped - and killed more women in this county then anybody would ever imagine. Gary was lucky he only got jail.
                                                                                                                        December 12/17





3 Amigos
Years back. A man named Sirgibbs sat in the court room. Watching Garys case unfold. He posted some pretty intelligent posts. He tells you. There are 3 connections that OCSD didnt want you to link together. That 3 would go to the dirty cop cokers house. That 2 knew, 2 really KNEW, he writes.
Funny how Vanpatten, Curtis, Petrowski hang at Curtis house over the years. Dirty cop cokers house must be Curtis, the 2 who Knew, really KNEW was petrowski and Vanpatten. Can it be proven. Yes. It can be proven by eye witnesses.
Matter of fact. Curtis was petrowski mentor lol per say.
So you have the lead investigator stealing texts messages between 2 persons of interest. Makes complete sense now. Why this entire case has gone in the direction it has.
The officer whom dropped the cards, buddies to lead investigator now, also friends to same cop whom exposed Heidi and Curtis just happened to be driving by minutes after Heidi disappeared.
You 3 corrupt amigos belong in prison.
                                                                                                                       December 8/17

ocsd and da corruption
sue boullard knew everything that was going on with the drug dealing, extorsion, embezeling and sexual harassment in the district attorneys office and sheriff’s department.She wasn’t afraid to call them on it and she ended up in the river at the same spot where they dumped Carol wood. Heidi was on the inside working with that slime and she just vanishes. Several women got too close to that bunch and ended up dead unexpectedly. A lot of the dirty money was being laundered through columbia savings and loan and fulton savings and probably still is.
                                                                                                                       December 8/17

Special Deputies
Beside the drug trade ands rasping women motorists it is a wonder they found any time to protect and serve.You know that is why the Sheriff and the DA are so dead set against a new trial for Gary. They don’t want the truth and the OCSDs involvement in Heidis disappearance to come out in the light of day. Are you out of your ever lovin? No but you sure as hell are Todd.
                                                                                                                       December 7/17

The Oswego/Co.rt 1 Halloween wagon
Hey Kells,
Did anyone else notice that the little Halloween hayride wagon now sits at the east end of the Dpw fenced in area. That seems to me like he should be reprimanded for that stunt.
The problem is that when little billy has his dough wagon out there for the festivities this makes him an accomplice. I cannot believe this blatant b.s. Is still allowed after all the bullshit this city has gone through.
I drive by Kells house everyday. If I see him plowing his driveway I will stop and introduce myself to him. Have some guts folks. This is our money these people are spending. Hold these people accountable and make them pay with losing their jobs.
Let's get moving on taking control of a city that has never had accountability. We do have outside resources that can help. Call the A.G's office , call the congress person, call the Nys comptroller and see who to talk to due to misuse of municipal money.

Signed, I'm watching

                                                                                                                       December 7/17

Re: sleezy lawyers
The same ones always seemed to be there, the Hawthornes, Eby, Cieszeski and Todd. Not one real lawyer in the bunch.
                                                                                                                       December 7/17

Sexual Blackmail In Oswego County
In the 90s RT 57 South of Fulton was prime hunting for the Fulton Cops and the County Sheriffs.
Women getting out of work at Miller and Owens were prime targets of these sexual predators. Some of them recorded the harassment by officers and deputies and confronted District Attorney James Grose. Grose smashed the recorder in front of them and threatened them should they ever bring up that subject again.
It didn’t end there. Women who didn’t put out were given tickets for loud mufflers, tail lights out or doing 37 MPH in a 35 MPH zone. Then there was a host of sleezy lawyers waiting to represent them for you guessed it sex.
                                                                                                                       December 6/17

Reply Moe Todd
Laugh away. Every one I know is laughing at them. The public knows the truth, no matter how much they lie. Facts are facts. No matter the lies. It can never change that fact.
                                                                                                                       December 6/17

I know for a fact. One deputy followed the bartender from Williamstown home one night after she closed up the bar. Yes the choice was sex or dwi. She is very vocal about this incident. Its called sexual harrassement, entrapment, the list goes on. It started with oral sex on the road. He then followed her back to her place. Mean while he was on duty and we tax payers are paying for this nasty shit. Ill get his name but to the officer whom did this. Her intials are TM, and Im certain you are well aware of who you are...Oakes will deny...deny...deny..everyones a liar but OCSD, DA office. Instead of him seeing hes surrounded by pigs, literally. He thinks hes surrounded by heros. He couldn't be any dumber.
                                                                                                                       December 6/17

Special Deputies
One of the biggest jokes in Oz was the daughter Jack Obey fathered in lieu of a speeding ticket. Its not just the nineties. that sh!t goes on every day in this county by every law enforcement agency
                                                                                                                       December 6/17



Re: Gosek Recording
You people on here are a joke. You think those dumb Polacks that elected thos to Goseks care about there sex crimes. If the old man ran for mayor again he would get elected. Oswego is just as f**ked up as they are. The kid is a teacher. What a perfect person to be involved with children.
                                                                                                                       December 5/17

Re: Moe Todds Special Deputies
Hope the women who were taken advantage of by these disgusting men had the where-with-all to get STD tested after their encounter. Wonder if their wife/girlfriend had any idea just how sickening their loved one was or is De Nile the River in Egypt?
CDC, was there an epidemic of oral Herpes in Oswego during the time period of these allegations?
“Smear campaign by the Defense”. LOL, Mr. Oakes. Appears your buddies smeared……before any of the outside world even knew!! ** Dang, I just thought they were incompetent at their jobs. Must reconsider in light of the new accusation.** But yet these are some of the a&$holes that are trusted by some in the community?!?! I wonder though, how adept are some people at being two-faced?
I apologize. I know I shouldn’t laugh at the…..expense of others.
                                                                                                                       December 5/17

Special Deputies And Special Judges.
My neighbor had her kids taken by DSS. Two weeks later she got them back. Her words “ all I had to do was blow the family court judge”.
                                                                                                                       December 5/17

The judges and attorneys have been preying on the women and young boys of this county for half a century. It is time for them to speak out.
                                                                                                                       December 5/17







Today's Quote December 4/2017

She plucked from my lapel the invisible strand of lint (the universal act of woman to proclaim ownership.
O. Henry

Moe Todds Special Deputies
In the early Nineties Under Sheriff Moe Todd gave dash mount strobe lights to ADA Don Dodd and ADA Don Todd so they could make citizens arrests. How it worked was they would follow women home from local bars and pull them over for suspicion of drunk driving. Some got a stiff warning others had to service the stiff end of the law.

                                                                                                                       December 4/17
Just when you think you have heard it all.

State Police Arrest Reports 07/06/2008

Louis E. Sorendo, 51, of 21 Ellen St., Oswego
On 07/06/08, Louis E. Sorendo, age 51, of 21 Ellen St., Oswego, NY, was arrested by the New York State Police ââ‚Âââ‚Å“ Syracuse for Unlawful Possession of Marijuana after being stopped for a seat belt violation at the Verona interchange (exit # 33) of the Thruway.
Mr. Sorendo was released to appear in the Town of Verona court.
                                                                                                                       December 4/17


Shower Room Banter

Federal inmate #1: Hey Leroy, remember that child molester Gosek that came through here back in 2006? He was some of the best lovin I had on the inside but he was always crying so I had to put a bag over his head.

Federal inmate 2: Yeah Bubba, he was ok but I would rather do his son. I’d like to throw a flag over his little a$$ and do him for god and country.

Hinder Grinder
                                                                                                                    December 2/17

Bobby Baldasaro
Has anyone besides Dodd seen the notes about Bobby?

HHmmm. A report from Florida probation says they recommend that his probation be revoked and "2 years community control for closer supervision". Notes show that a governors warrant was issued for him. They were going to hold him up in MA so he can testify in NY "then we can justify putting him back on probation". What? He got probation for testifying in NY.

Damn, and I thought it was testified to that neither inmate received any benefit for testifying.?!

It's all in black and white...Bobby did.


                                                                                                                    November 27/17


Grab your ankles Oswego....
If everyone thinks they don't have any X-mas $$$ leftover now once paying that f'n disastrous water/sewer bill then hang on tight...it's going up to $315/qtr. come February so you really won't have any f'n $$$ remaining to do anything with...including eating! Oh, and BTW...it wasn't a screwdriver that killed the old man on Mitchell St. many years ago....it was a f'n icepick & the local police have made it known! HMMM!!!
                                                                                                                    November 27/17

Bivens and criminal witnesses
LOL...."disinterested witnesses" we found credible? Like who?

Bivens was obviously lying about something....many different police statements, pleading the 5th during trial about the false insurance claim form.

Ms. Montgomery...

Mr. Neville Jr....

The Cowen's knowing Bivens....

The store owner, "family friend", finding the CI card but testifying to not "warning" Heidi's family.....

That Sturtz woman "we kept it a secret" that Heidi was IN FACT a CI....

Please post the documents about Baldasaro getting a reduced sentence on recommendation for his NY testimony.

Deputy Wheeler lying under oath. Dodd refusing to give "the entire" OCSD case file as per repeated arguments against turning over documents and "finding" Heidi case evidence "in the garage" in the 11th hour.

BUT....this was a good arrest, good conviction. LMAO Todd, Dodd, Oakes.....you guys can't be that ignorant!?? You guys are sick mother___ that have turned a missing young woman from your community into a trivial, cya occurrence.

Sad that Heidi's own loving sister can't comprehend what is written in black and white. I would not rest, even after all these years, if Heidi was my sister, daughter, close cousin, close friend. Pray that more people speak the truth for Justice for Heidi and Gary....Shame on All You Liars/Deceivers.

Heidi was/is important even if one has given up hope for finding the Truth!!

Have you seen Bivens' Facebook page? Some kind of Christian to violate one of God's Laws...."Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor". Praise God that those who violate HIS laws will be properly Judged and Punished. Eternity is a long time, if you're a believer.
                                                                                                                    November 27/17

Re: IP address
What are they worried about unless what is posted can be proven?

Some accusations are false...but others are true.

I am willing to bet that most of what is posted about the Heidi Allen case is a FACT that can be proven from written documentation.

NO INTEGRITY and NO MORALS. Ya'll should resign. Along with the other crooked Oswego government officials.

Keep Speaking and vote the vermin out!! Research your candidates. Talk to the candidates and other constituents. Thank you to ALL who don't give up! "WE the People" are stronger than them.
                                                                                                                    November 27/17

Threats and intimidation are how these people stay in control and out of jail. When they become too much of a liability they get thrown under the buss like Dumbsmor did to Gosek.

Water Bills 2018
They are raising the water bills from $275 to $315. Are you f<{king me. Barlow sure has BS everyone in this dump city. Giving money to all his friends and stealing money from everyone else. How does he expect the seniors on fixed incomes to pay for this ..This city government has gone right in the toilet Barlow if you read this. You and your government are idiots ..
                                                                                                                    November 27/17







Today's Quote November 26/2017

Glory, built on selfish principles, is shame and guilt.
William Cowper

This Bivens???
This Bivens? Are you talking this Bivens. Are you identifying the DA main witness as a past prime suspect in the odd death of an old man? If so whats this old mans name? Easy way to find that out. Unless of course the Sheriffs disposed of his past crimes, I wouldnt doubt in exchange for his testimony?? One could make that assumption. If so, Dodds more Devil than the real devil. Sick....this entire case the more you stop and smell the roses, you notice those gorgeous roses smell like shit. The stench is coming from OCSD and the DA Office.
How would one confirm all those things?? Anyone have any proof of the Bivens claims posted on here?
                                                                                                                    November 26/17

Is the Bivens referenced in the Heidi Allen story the same Bivens that drove taxi for Horan's in the 80s? If so he has quite a shady reputation to start with. He was arrested for false imprisonment of a teenage girl in the back seat of his cab, he refused to let her out until she agreed to have sex with him! He also robbed an old lady on rt 48,Mrs Cahill on 3 seperate occasions and was a suspect in the suspicious death of an old man on Mitchell St who was found dead at the bottom of his stairs with a screwdriver through his skull. The same police investigating the Heidi Allen case determined that death to be accidental. lol
                                                                                                                    November 25/17




Reply to Bivens
I've read on Bivens also before but its the first time I've ever really sat down and compared his stories and his multitude of changed statements, his confusing descriptions and changes he added to the van, he even changed the vans location at the store, from between the pumps to the outside of the pumps. Bivens, is certified, in my opinion, up to no good. I never knew he gave the make and model of the vehicle. Not every ones from the Oswego area. So obtaining transcripts arent easy for outsiders. Ty for sharing that. To me Bivens pleading the 5th, tells me a lot. Seems a pretty good ammount of Oakes side uses the 5th like it means nothing. To me the 5th typically, tells anyone, besides numb nuts Oakes. They've got something to hide. You are only to use that line if it will incriminate yourself. By using the 5th, to me, they did just that. Bivens is a con, simple as that.
                                                                                                                    November 23/17






Okay, this will clear up all the confusion Mr. Bivens created with his lies.

Say hello to Mr. Christopher Bivens, the DA eye witness. This photo tell anyone anything?

                                                                                                                    November 22/17


I had a C 10 pickup back in the 70s and always thought the vans were C 10 too. I just never cared or looked that close to see that the "C" was actually a "G". Now reading his statement I see a lot more than has been talked about before. H said he recognized the van from the rust over the wheels and the bumper that hung down and a trailer hitch. He claimed he didnt stop because he didnt want to get involved.


Driving down a major highway in slush and snow he sees a woman struggling with a man and he still is observant enough to note rust, a crooked bumper and a trailer hitch yet the description of the man did not fit either of the Thibodeau brothers and the pictures of the van below show very little rust over the wheels.


A more likely story would be he observed a woman and a man in what he thought might be a domestic dispute and just kept going. Later he learned of the missing store clerk and began to feel bad about not stopping so he called the OCSD. Even though his original description of the van did not fit the Thibodeaus or there van the sherrifs show him a picture of Richards van an he then decided that was the one.

                                                                                                                    November 22/17

Bivens' Testimony C-10 Van
The fact it may have been a light blue C-10 van was given in Bivens' testimony. It's not that hard to find, guys.

                                                                                                                       November 21/17

Richard's van
Here's how these g, c things work for Chevy. There is no such thing as a c10 van. Ever. C10 is a pickup truck. GM had letter names for their body styles.
C - 2 wheel drive pickup
K - 4 wheel drive
G - van
The 10 means 1/2 ton, 20 3/4 ton, 30 1 ton. Bohrer drove a 1976, G20 3/4 ton.
                                                                                                                       November 21/17

C10 van huh...
How the hell would you know the van they are looking for is a c10 Chevy van? Maybe you need a knock on your door. No where does it say ever Bohrer had a Chevy c10. But your dead on. That's a fact you shouldn't and wouldn't know. Its not mentioned or documented anywhere.

                                                                                                                       November 19/20/17

C10 huh...
Richard's vans a 1976, which would make it a G10, G20, G30 series. Here are the 1976 specs from Chevy for the 1976 year. So no the c10 series was never, not once listed anywhere in any one of the witnesses statements, court documents, records. Not one person ever described the van as a white or blue c10-CHEVY. Bivens stated ,"I THINK it was a Chevy, van. FROM 1979-1986." The MAKE AND MODEL is not listed anywhere, as a definite . Not even in Bivens statements. So the c10 Is not a fact and isn't relevant. Because a 1976, is a G SERIES MODEL. All that's ever said is they witnessed a white, off white or blue van. Where you came up with a c10 is beyond me.


                                                                                                                    November 19/20/17


Murtaugh comments:
As a matter of fact I do on my way to new haven now had a nice road trip to fernwood too wink emoticon
Posted on Judge to prosecutor in Heidi Allen case: You missed chance to respond to wrongful conviction claim
9/18/2014 9:42 AM

Omg please no mistake we (3 of us) picked up two vans at gt house ... Me roger & a 3rd person picked up a dift van in fern wood I can't tell you where it was but I'm sure I can drive right to there like I did last week going to Gary's house ( that I had only been to twice before in the 90's
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:25 PM

It was a red house is all we can remember
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:17 PM

I'm sorry I don't I'd just be guessing but one of my helpers just asked me if I remember going to fern wood to get a white van at 1st didn't remember but after talking a bit I do now
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:08 PM

No in fern wood ( I think that's how you spell it
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:05 PM

Omg I don't know I just remember him coming to me wanting me to pick one up for him .. Never gave it much thought till tonight talking it over with my staff
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 10:55 PM

You all ready for this one ????? I do remember going with RB to fern wood to pick up a white van that he had to junk back around same time of the ha deal
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 10:52 PM

Tina Bennett Fighting For Fathers Rights
How much time do you think she will spend on your case when she devotes half of her TV commercial to taking shots at her ex husband and his family.
                                                                                                                    November 19/20/17


Richard murtaugh @rmroutlaw · Jan 14

#heidiallen after 20 plus years this is the best they can come up with? & it all started from towing a van that was never at Gary's .. Joke

                                                                                                                    November 19/20/17

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Swenkowski, Richard, Jenn Westcott, Bivens, Stinson, OCSD, DAs...and of course Gary:

Why didn't Swenkowski's testimony about seeing RT leave the store alone carry any weight?
RT walked out and HA was in the store when he left
Stinson walked in and NO HEIDI????? So what happened after Senkowski and RT left? What exact time was Bivens there? His story is confusing...why? Simple question and a simple answer...cover up?
Bivens saw the kidnapping, RT, Swenkowski, Stinson were there a little before it happened, did anyone see another person after they left?
Caught in so many lies in still an open case, why wasn't her stories followed up?
I simply don't believe Jenn Westcott......Oakes. Why not? You offered her immunity, must have believed it then,
and after she failed a poly and then said in a second meeting that she was told about what happened to HA, said "they brought her in a WHITE VAN"...you're right Mr. Oakes you shouldn't believe her. But part of LE is to pick apart lies and to follow up if you think it may lead somewhere. You guys did nothing of the sort. WHY NOT???

Everyone but you guys think it was a good start.
What PROOF did you have that GT was NOT home at the time of the crime. Did you check for foot prints in the snow at his house? Anyone see him at the store...NOPE. But you Dodd convinced a jury that he was there even if the description didn't fit the brothers.

Did you use a line up before the case? Never heard that you did. Is that standard police work in an investigation or is it a way to cover up and convict an innocent man? No line up ...hmmmm.

Why was your story about RT going to MA with HA in the trunk, destroyed in court by two deputies? Is that a lie or just another run around the outside and hope for the best. And you searched the car and found nothing.
Were Stinson, Bivens and Swenkowski given polygraphs?

If it happened T 7:42 am and Bivens saw it then Swenkowski, Stinson should have seen it too because RT left and Swenkowski said he waited for him to back out as he packed his cigarettes in his car.

With all these things pointing to innocent of the brothers, why didn't you look at other people? Did you have a hunch at who they may be? Did you ask neighbors of MB, Steen and Roger if they saw them leave early in the morning? Roger's wife said he did. There's a start and you again failed in your investigation....intentionally?

Lies for deputies on the stand, Jenn W. telling you what you needed to hear, witnesses did not id RT's van, just the opposite, they said (as your star witness Bivens said at first) that it wasn't RT's van.

Have you read any of the comments in the paper or on the web as we have uncovered a lot of loose ends in this case?

Do you guys sleep well at night, when the demons come into your mind. Wouldn't you like to have it stop? What an awful feeling, night after night and now you have the FBI to worry about and they are very serious people.

First one to give states evidence walks and all others will be put in prison!

                                                                                                                    November 19/20/17

Van Picture
The van in the picture is a Ford Econoline not a Chevy C-10. Don’t know if that C-10 description is relevant or not; just pointing out a fact
                                                                                                                            November 18/17

Fernwood Feed Mill Van
The picture is a little fuzzy, but the Fernwood Feed Mill van looks to be a darker blue than the van at Manwaring and Route 3. Also, the rear side windows are different (the lighter blue van has circular windows). It would be worth a shot for John O'Brien (who switched careers and is now an investigator with Peebles) to look into the history of this van. We all know Richard's van should have been returned to him a long time ago.

                                                                                                                            November 18/17

Sounds like Greg Aka the DA, that there's some big boys knocking on doors. It's not your buddies the Sheriffs. Sounds like your screwed. Did you truly think your Sheriffs had full jurisdiction. Not when it comes to corrupt politicians. It's not the Sheriffs making their rounds. It's officers with integrity.
                                                                                                                            November 18/17


D&W store front
How in the heck could Richard have fit his van between the pump and Mr. Swenzkowki’s car to park in front of him if Mr. Swenzkowski arrived first? OR was Richard IN FACT telling the truth about parking BEHIND Mr. Swenzkowski per his statements?!! Hmmm, believe a witness who was not given a lie detector test, that we know of, or believe someone who WE KNOW passed a test?!
                                                                                                                            November 17/17


Lisa P. Email

                                                                                                                            November 17/17

People of OZ
(315) 701-0080 Lisa Peebles. Feel free to call her office.

                                                                                                                            November 17/17

Gary the Innocent Video utube


Please share this, it's Gary's song in a video.
Law, won't you let that free man go... Twenty years of himself on a sheriff's shelf, He's been murdered one day at a time. The key that she's held, still she lives with herself -- The truth lies behind those cold blue eyes. The call she made shook up decades Of giving up on hope and life A murderer stands next to me, next to you As we wait in the grocery line. Law, won't you let that free man go. Law, won't you let that free man go. Way down in Oswego County Somebody done collected his bounty. Law, won't you let that free man go. His case was sealed from an inside deal He was sleeping away in his cell. They buried his sisters, mother, and wife, Insisting a personal hell. Will the truth be told from the ones who know Or the ones who have brushed it away. Pry back the boards and show us all toward The free man walking away.Law, won't you let that free man go. Law, won't you let that free man go. Free of guilt but still in prison, Hope of truth this mornin' risen. Law, won't you let that free man go. Law, won't you let that free man go. Law, won't you let that free man go. Free that man that's been forsaken Give him back the life we've taken. Law, won't you let that free man go.
                                                                                                                            November 17/17

No one knows what to believe. The FBI has had 4 years to help this case. To bring charges against them. Instead they are focused on Doyle. If Gary dies. I'm sure the suspects are praying to God he does. They will walk Scott free. Totally disgusting. Oakes claims to be a man of God, Greg will be one of the ones he says Go away. I do not know you. He is nothing more than a criminal for obstructing justice.
                                                                                                                            November 17/17

Jennifer Wescott was given immunity from prosecution for lying on her police statements....Would all deals be off if the Feds charge her with perjury for lying under oath, in a Court of Law?
                                                                                                                            November 17/17

Keystone Pipeline Leaks 5,000 Barrels Of Oil In South Dakota, TransCanada Says

                                                                                                                            November 17/17


Old Chevy C-10 Light blue van with dark blue doors on Route 3
I didn't get a picture driving by, but it is on Google Maps - taken Oct. 2013
There's a light blue Chevy C-10 van on State Route 3 in between Pulaski and Mexico - with dark blue doors - parked on a side lawn of a property in between Pulaski and Mexico on State Route 3 van before them. Not too many of them that look similar to RT's around, especially in Oswego County. . You can easily see it from the road. It's on the left-hand side if you're heading west (toward Mexico). It looks to be around the same year as RT's, but more closely matches the description of some witnesses. It would be interesting to see who the property owner is or who owned the before them. Not too many of them that look similar to RT's around, especially in Oswego County.
I didn't get a picture driving by, but it is on Google Maps - taken Oct. 2013

                                                                                                                            November 16/17

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
To re to me.....

If someone didn't call in for a sandwich then they got it just before HA was taken. HAD to be after 7:42 am after Richard was seen leaving ALONE!!! ( last customer but not the last one to see her alive)

Can anyone find a statement from anyone, including the OCSD that doesn't seem suspicious or looks like a lie?
Does anyone really think the FBI believes any of this child like lies and a Person there at the time of crime but didn't see anything. If Swenkowski was there and saw Richard, then the 7:42 am time is correct...has to be.

Did the person who said he got a call that said "VanPatten ordered the hit" ever tell that to anyone on this case?

VanPatten said there was going to be a big bust and put a "girl" to be used into it. Were there any other female CIs at this time? Why would a cop shoot his mouth off about a bust..THAT NEVER HAPPENED!!!!!?????

Heidi was a CI and Oakes and any other LE, DA, lawyer that says she wasn't is a liar. But why lie? To cover up a unlawful arrest, sale of coke by "others", help those that took her get away with it? The only reason you got away with HA NOT being a CI is because Judge King made sure of it. Signed card, code name, picture, other cops testifying to it...but no she wasn't a CI.

I don't know how you got away with it but I will tell you that if anyone ever did that to me, they better move far away before I get out...this is disgusting and it doesn't even seem to bother you at all. But maybe the FBI can get states evidence if they investigate this joke of an investigation. DOES IT BOTHER YOU GUYS THAT A VERY IMPORTANT MAN WAS IN THE 2014 COURT ROOM AND WHAT HE SAID? Start Sweating.
                                                                                                                            November 16/17

Lisa Peebles
Would anyone know her direct email or if she has appointments available where Oz people can go to speak to her?
                                                                                                                            November 16/17

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
To re to me.....

If someone didn't call in for a sandwich then they got it just before HA was taken. HAD to be after 7:42 am after Richard was seen leaving ALONE!!! ( last customer but not the last one to see her alive)

Can anyone find a statement from anyone, including the OCSD that doesn't seem suspicious or looks like a lie?
Does anyone really think the FBI believes any of this child like lies and a Person there at the time of crime but didn't see anything. If Swenkowski was there and saw Richard, then the 7:42 am time is correct...has to be.

Did the person who said he got a call that said "VanPatten ordered the hit" ever tell that to anyone on this case?

VanPatten said there was going to be a big bust and put a "girl" to be used into it. Were there any other female CIs at this time? Why would a cop shoot his mouth off about a bust..THAT NEVER HAPPENED!!!!!?????

Heidi was a CI and Oakes and any other LE, DA, lawyer that says she wasn't is a liar. But why lie? To cover up a unlawful arrest, sale of coke by "others", help those that took her get away with it? The only reason you got away with HA NOT being a CI is because Judge King made sure of it. Signed card, code name, picture, other cops testifying to it...but no she wasn't a CI.

I don't know how you got away with it but I will tell you that if anyone ever did that to me, they better move far away before I get out...this is disgusting and it doesn't even seem to bother you at all. But maybe the FBI can get states evidence if they investigate this joke of an investigation. DOES IT BOTHER YOU GUYS THAT A VERY IMPORTANT MAN WAS IN THE 2014 COURT ROOM AND WHAT HE SAID? Start Sweating.
                                                                                                                            November 16/17







Today's Quote November 15/2017

Sometime in the future - 25, 50, 75 years hence -

what will the situation be like then? By that time the Chinese will have the capability of delivery too.
Curtis LeMay

Of Course!!
Yes it does make the Thibodeaus innocent.
Leo Richardson and his brother were once arrested for holding a girl against her will. Leo resigned from his position, his brother was found not guilty. SHERIFF TODD said when asked about why Leos brother still had his job at the Oswego Jail, that "he was found NOT GUILTY by a jury of his peers. There fore by law he is innocent." And would be keeping his position. I guess that belief to Todd is upheld if AND ONLY IF your a political or county employee. Because last I knew. Richard was found not guilty. Yet, Todd, still holds on to, NOT- things they missed but things they covered up. Because and only because they all broke the law to gain this conviction. Now it's protect their own asses, from criminal racketeering and RICO charges. So the more they lie, the better off they think they are. Problem is, back then, social media was not as popular and easy to access as it is now. Now a days being able to have easy access and to see all of the information. It's easy to see, that Richard and Gary were both railroaded, intentionally. Goes back to what Bohrer said,"When you have more questioms than you do answers your problems from within."
Sheriffs give the Thibodeau man back his van. It is not evidence, when it has been cleared by FBI, NOT ONCE, TWICE. The van doesn't even match the tire tracks seen in this photo. Notice the officer bent over. Compare the location of the van to the one given on Bivens map. Not the same location. Their own evidence doesn't match the van you stole from Richard. Cough it up theifs.
Must be Sheriffs don't listen to anyone. Even Wescott told you. "I can't believe after 20 years I have to tell you there is another van." Oz Sheriff dept, simply is sending tax payers on a wild lying goose chase. They have for over 23 years.

                                                                                                                            November 15/17

Re: Gary Thibodeau.....Death of Common Sense
I don’t necessarily think the person the sandwich was made for “called” the order in. Anyhow, it is a FACT that Mrs. Duell AND Susan Allen testified that Heidi was scheduled to work on April 3, 1994. Note, also, that Mrs. Duell testified that the employee schedule was located on the bulletin board behind the counter? Certainly was not a “last minute filling-in” for the other clerk as some people make it sound. Look at the inside pictures of the D&W and one can clearly see that all a customer had to do was look and see the schedule for themselves. (Bohrer proclaims to be a regular but, conveniently, Mrs. Duell testified at the Hearing that she didn’t recognize him. NOO Duh when one sees the person 20+ years later and not shown a picture from the correct time period. Right, Pietroski?

Interesting enough, Mrs. Granger says in her statement that Mr. Stinson told her that he knew the clerk was Heidi. Mrs. Granger questioned “How did he know it was Heidi” if he didn’t see who the clerk was. Also, Mr. Stinson told her, via her statement, that he went outside to look for the clerk but Mrs. Granger didn’t see footprints around the building. Both of Mrs. Granger’s statements (April 3, 1994 and July 14, 1994) are available at the Oswego County Clerk’s Office or they can be posted here.

Also ask oneself this, if Heidi was kidnapped after making the sandwich 1-Where is the register transaction for the sandwich? 2-Brett should have been able to identify the customer that bought it from photos the police should have taken because “every customer was a potential suspect” or from the customer, themself? 3-Wouldn’t Heidi have put the meat back ASAP after the ham sandwich was made? 4-Bohrer says in his notes that Heidi made his sandwiches good….what kind? Did LE ever think of asking him that? Probably not. 5-What time did Brett REALLY leave the store?

Dodd, I have a main question for you….How can you effectively, unbiasedly, truthfully Judge another prosecutor or defender knowing the dastardly, underhanded, unethical games you played in your ADA/DA tenure? You, sir (and I don’t mean respectfully), should be number one behind bars. Interesting on some of your cross of Defense witnesses and the deputies, it sounded like you were on the defense….we know there are tire marks (that don’t match Richard’s van) but do you know when they were made….do you know the condition of the van on blah day or blah day….sometimes family, friends and loved ones don’t know someone like they think….Where are YOUR FACTS and PROOF that Gary was doing something other than what he and his alibi witness testified to? Mrs. Rain is not seeking another term…may behoove Oakes to follow suite. Get someone with integrity and ethics to prosecute on behalf of “The People”!!
                                                                                                                            November 15/17

J-Oakes & Sheriffs soon to look like further fools. Lie detector tests and results in the works for Lisa witnesses. When they pass, it'll infuriate the majority. Good luck Oakes. You will need it. New show coming this ones moving fast to save Gary. When results hit. Hope Oakes goes n buries his head in the sand. He deserves, another hard slap.
                                                                                                                            November 15/17


Time stood still for Heidi Allen
From the article, "Time Stands Still for Heidi": Later, while detectives combed the convenience store and surrounding fields,DUELL WOULD NOTICE THAT THE CLOCK WAS STILL ONE HOUR BEHIND. TIME HAD STOPPED FOR HEIDI.

From the article, " Emotional Testimony Offered" : The cash register detail tape was marked as evidence; Duell made not on a copy of it describing what the codes mean and what each transaction had entailed. She and Curtis had also checked the accuracy of the cash register's clock which HEIDI HAD JUST SET THAT MORNING TO DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME.

                                                                                                                            November 15/17



Mrs. Duell testified about the register tape, items purchased and time...??
It strikes me as odd that "The time had to be entered into the memory of the cash register. (Tr. 1488)."

Could it be possible that the register tape was...manipulated when the deputy went back on August 11, 1994 to get the register tape from April 2, 1994? Mrs. Duell's OCSD file was tampered with on August 12, 1994.



Sorry people….those who don’t believe Richard Thibodeau even though he passed a lie detector test given by the Oswego County Sheriff’s. **No disrespect, you really think he could fool a lie detector test? He was the cooperative one…agreeing to the search of his van and giving DNA samples, etc I’d say he was one heck of a confident person that they wouldn’t find anything….because….he didn’t kidnap Heidi, he didn’t help to kidnap Heidi!!**

It Is a fact that he told law enforcement twice, on April 3, 1994 and April 9, 1994 that he paid with 4 $1 bills. In my math book, the cash register should have said one dollar less had Richard actually made that transaction at that time.

BS-“good arrest, good conviction”. Dodd’s theory is they acted together. Did you even read Richard’s statement, Todd? Probably not with your “limited involvement” in the investigation. The burning and burying on Gary’s property didn’t work out for you. The rolled item taken into the woods didn’t work out for you.
                                                                                                                            November 14/17

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Re: Another Unusual Reply

I posted that on Syracuse.com a while back and thought about MB and maybe he called to order a sandwhich
to see who was there. Who orders a sandwich at 6am? Did Bret hear the phone ring? Was the sandwich for herself? They missed a lot didn't they.

Another thing that bothered me was Stinson said Heidi was setting the cash register to the wall clock and it was distorted. I've never been in there in 1994 so I didn't know if there was a clock on the wall. But I did see a clock over the counter but she couldn't see it from the cash register...so I was wondering about that also with the other 22k other things in this case.

Funny how many "leads" we the readers have found. Spacecube on Syr.com is a great source, she/he has read the trial transcript and really knows a lot.

Also to the person that posted about Richard taking HA back to the store and the snitches said she wasn't there, wouldn't that make them innocent? But they lied because Swenkowski and Richard were there at the same time and both saw her...BUT STINSON DIDN"T???? Still bothers the hell out of me but I am not accusing him of any crime...just can't get past it.

You have info please post and keep it private if you are scared, or send it to Lisa P. Please, it's been to far gone with this case and the "FACTS".

We must hope for an FBI investigation and I think there may be one as that GUY in court in 2014...who was he, why was he there and what do they know or suspect. Hope there is an H-BOMB coming to Oswego County.
                                                                                                                            November 14/17

Police Blotter
On 11/9/17 at 9:30 p.m., Roger L. Breckenridge, 49, of 410 W. Embargo St., Rome, was arrested based on a Bench Warrant issued out of Oswego County Court.
Mr. Breckenridge was remanded to the OCJ to await Oswego County Court in session.
                                                                                                                            November 14/17



Another Unusual fact
We know Bohrer would have Heidi make him sandwiches. That is a fact in this. What is it Stitson describes seeing left in the deli area?? Meat on the slicer. What is it. Heidi was doing inside the store the very moment she was taken? Where was she really standing? Was her back at any point to either entrance? Possibility she never saw it coming. Did someone order a sandwich to distract her? Lots of questions. Most employees do not leave a slab of meat on the slicer. Its typically put back where it can stay cool. It's logical to believe. Someone came in, asking for asandwich.
Here's the proof
If someone distracted Heidi, by the slicer in these photos. In order to operate the slicer. She would have her back to the entrance. Notice the entrance right behind where she would have been located. Where and when is there ever fresh meat left, untouched on any slicer? In April 3, 1994 there was. Was she interrupted in the middle of slicing meat for a Sandwhich? Or was she standing directly in front by the cash register. In both positions, the entrance is behind her.



                                                                                                                            November 13/17





Where Is Heidi …. Follow The Money
I don’t know if this has been addressed here or not but why, in the middle of suspected crime scene, did the Sheriffs investigators let the owner of the store take the money from the cash register? The store opened at what 5:00 AM and Heidi goes missing around 7:30? So in 1994 there could have been what $150 - $200 to open and in the we hours of Easter Sunday morning they may have sold another $150 - $200 worth of gas, cigs and newspapers? What possible excuse could there have been for taking possible evidence from a suspected crime scene without it having been tagged, bagged or fingerprinted? I want to here Maurice “are you out of your ever lovin” explain that one.
                                                                                                                            November 12/17

Usual Facts lol


Does anyone find it unusual if you were to take out Richard or Gary Thibodeau. The distraction. Cross off all lies, or anywhere their names come up. Exclude them as suspects. What is left. Unusual facts.
Fact -Bohrer ran down the road screaming on the phone, to the sheriff's. "I know what happened to Heidi. Call Bobby Wheeler." Connection 1, Bobby Wheeler being known and requested by Michael Bohrer. Funny how Bohrer knew Robert Wheeler by his nickname.
Fact - it is documented in the Sheriffs own writing. Gram Breckenridge had made a comment," That she knew where Heidi was buried but couldn't tell anyone." Rogers own family has a secret.
Fact- Trudy the psychic Bohrer was driving around with. Was once married to officer Lortie. Another connection. Or just a simple fact. That Bohrer is driving around with a huge connection to Officer Lortie.
Fact- Breckinridge and Maynes were making comments of involvement.
Fact-Bohrer met with FBI in 95, was listed as a person of interest.
Fact-They used the idea because Gary and Richard helped search. They must be guilty. Facts, documents, photos show. Dan Barney, David Maynes, Brett Law, Mrs. Kris Duell, partial store owner are all through the old news and helped search for Heidi Allen.
Fact - Sheriffs noted and stated all doors the customers used were unlocked. Oakes suggest only the one was. Which ones lying Oakes or the Sheriffs.
Fact-Sheriff Nellis stated in 94, Gary was arrested because he matched the one who had grabbed Heidi. But Sheriff Todd testified Gary matched the eye witness as a driver. So which ones lying?
Fact - The sheriff's did deny help of 120 investigators from across the state. Denied the help. Then Cuomo sends over 200 national guard and volunteers.
Fact-Kris Duells file was tampered with prior to Gary's trial. She also helped man the search areas. Is this why Rice Road was never searched.
Fact-Several days in to the kidnapping Sheriffs said there was no proof a crime was ever committed and ended the on foot searches.
Fact-Heidi family flew in Benningfield. Benningfield sends request for searches. Thus bringing up the problem. About the then lie, they never denied help.
Fact-Bohrer David Maynes snuck on Gary Thibodeau property at 2 am. He was arrested. His excuse, he wanted to make sure the cops didn't plant anything. Is what he told reporters. What he told police was he was checking on the dog.
Fact-Reporters caught the Sheriffs pulling a shovel with human tissue on it from an investigators vehicle. When asked why they had it. They declined to respond. Smh..maybe Maynes knew Gary didn't do it, cause he did. Knew these cops would plant evidence.?
Fact-They there are to many actual facts in this. To many, unusual coindencences with all the same names. When you minus out either Thibodeau brother. You can clearly see, something's wrong. How Ironic all those same names that were named in 94, 95, reports, news, interviews, so on, are in play once again. Ask yourself. What are the chances. One in a million. An officer once said it best. " To many coincidences equal guilt."
                                                                                                                            November 12/17

The Innocent in the land of OZ
They don't believe in FBI, that's obvious. They truly think no ones paying attention. Sorry to tell them. They have been implimented 4 years ago. Every move they've made, every lie they've told has been documented. Their clock will someday not tick. The man in court. Was making fun of them. He has far more power than any sheriff with a toy badge. He saw straight through them. One comment he made. "This isn't the first time he was called to OZ." If you ask any of the ones sworn to protect you from OZ, they wouldn't believe their names on any FBI LIST. Sorry to pop their little lying bubble. But there names were given by many. I do not doubt the claims coke was being sold out of any dept up there or by any cops there in OZ, Bohrer use to meet Mr. Bobby Wheeler right across from Medspar, maybe Bobby needs a physical and should tell the truth, before its to late for him. He was spotted repeated times in his black dark tinted window car, parked across from Medspar, with good ol Bohrer hanging from the driver side window. Is that why Bobby, Bohrer says 2 things that should spark anyone. "An officer showing cocaine symptoms on the stand (must be Bohrer was in Gary's court room), that wheelers business is no good." When I personally was asked, who wheeler may be. First response was Bobby. Bobby has always been dirty. That is not something he could seem to hide at all, ever. For the good Sheriffs to put blinders on. God forgive them, they to have a nice spot in Hell, a long with Oakes, Moody, Todd and Dodd. Here's a hint Sheriffs. Many are coming for you. Times passing. In the end, your clock will stop with feds, few dozen cuffs. Do you truly think messing with a justice dept employee Lisa was going to get you anywhere, it won't. Court order comes in, it'll take from what I am told 6 hours to round you all up. Cowboy FEDS vs cop wanna bees, which ones going to win? Here Oakes a tad bit of a hint. Go pull files on East Coast resorts another coke drop off place. Ask campers from the 90's what Bohrer buddy Fabian was flying in and landing on the water, ask them you worth less DA what it is they saw. Fabian also walked away from Murder charges. How convient. I'll give you one hint. It goes up your nose. You might want to check Wheelers nose, find out why he shows signs of drug use.
                                                                                                                            November 11/17

Vanpatten corrupt to the core
I once received a phone call. From someone who helped move the van, he screamed, "Vanpatten ordered the hit on Heidi." That I do not doubt. Vanpatten is knee deep in this. He is the main problem. Notice he is no where to be found. Hiding just like the Sheriff. Vanpatten everyone is well aware you are also knee deep in to the drug field. Funny how that all works for you. How is your buddy Leo Richardson, the fella who was also arrested for holding a girl against their will? Whom owned the bar your corrupt ass rated Heidi out at? The bar known as a drug bar. Vanpatten you truly think no one really knows. Many do. Some have made calls about you. Cuffs, a jump suit and some feds, will bring pure justice. Only then, will Heidi and anyone you have ever hurt get justice. When that day comes. Many will cheer FEDS on.
                                                                                                                            November 11/17


Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
To: Theories up the ass and last witness.

this what I think too. This case has so many holes, you could walk thru it. Loved both of your posts.
Problem is when the Judge, DA and cops are all trying to cover up a bad arrest and conviction it's hard to uncover and get what you want....BUT NOT FOR THE FBI!!!

Nothing in this case makes sense except that LE wanted a quick arrest to put an end to this and not to get themselves in trouble. One poster said a few weeks ago that a retired cop told him that coke was being sold out of the OPD...true? Who knows but I've heard the same thing.

Find the old Peeled Onion blog and read Mrs. Granger's statements when she arrived at the store....

Is that why Mrs. Granger's statements were stamped late?

Face it fellas, the only hope you have for not going to prison is if the FBI or the DOJ or the NYS atty's office doesn't do a full investigation. Only a child would believe any of this investigation was done without corruption.


Does Jenn Westcott feel like an ignored woman after she spilled he guts to the OCSD inv. and nothing was done about it? She told you what happened and you sat there and ignored it. Would you please respond and let us know why?
                                                                                                                            November 10/17

Theories up the ASS
One theory was Gary and Richard picked Heidi up. Went to Gary's. Gary and Heidi enter the woods. Start arguing, Gary then hits her in the head with a shovel. They then bring Heidi back to the store. Richard forgets his smokes. Upon returning Heidi is missing. Per Baldasaro theory. So who took Heidi after being dropped off?

Second Theory is a witness saw Gary and Richard carry something rolled up and taken in the woods. So if she's rolled up in something and taken in the woods. Then apparently Heidi was never dropped off back at the store, per Baldasaros claims.

Third theory they couldn't have carried her off in any woods if Gary was then blamed for burning her remains in his wood stove and then burying her on his property.
So, some how she removed herself from the store. After coming back from Garys, was then carried off inside a rolled up item, taken in to the woods. Then burned in a stove that sat right beside Gary's home, later to be buried on his property. Quite a series of theories. But these aren't all.

The fourth is opportunity. Crime of passion per Sheriffs comments on Dateline. In turn it contradicts Baldasaro the jail house snitch, who says Richard and Gary planned to meet with Heidi to talk to her.

Opportunity is never a planned event. That’s probably why the Sheriff himself has learned to shut up. "There are no cabins there never were.", " James Steens not a bad guy.",..the Sheriff and it's offices look like morons. No Sheriff the only one out of their ever loving minds are those supporting this conviction and any if you corrupt officials. Due to political status, job title, you name it, it doesn't matter. Right is right "Sheriffs" and this is all wrong. If they support you. Their IQ, can't be to high. There is a point. Bad cops, make them all look corrupt.
                                                                                                                            November 8-9/17

Bobby Baldasaro
Has anyone besides Dodd seen the notes about Bobby?

HHmmm. A report from Florida probation says they recommend that his probation be revoked and "2 years community control for closer supervision". Notes show that a governors warrant was issued for him. They were going to hold him up in MA so he can testify in NY "then we can justify putting him back on probation". What? He got probation for testifying in NY.

Damn, and I thought it was testified to that neither inmate received any benefit for testifying.?!

It's all in black and white...Bobby did.
                                                                                                                            November 7/17

Heidi Allen
It is refreshing after all this time to see your readers are getting closer, the post that stated the officer did this and that. the same officer that was infatuated with this new young informer, who lost her card at the same place she was taken from, find out who got her the job. could it be the same officer that happened to pass by that morning and was flagged down, fits the FBI profile, who manipulated the investigation toward the two brothers or others near by.
                                                                                                                            November 7/17

Here are some more Facts that Oakes and the Leos seem to by pass.

Fact - the same officer whom exposed Heidi is one who met with Richard Thibodeau.
Fact - The same officer exposed her twice, not once as Oakes and Sheriff like to think.
Fact - This officer knew Mensch, whom is great buddies to Dan Barney
Fact - This officer exposed Heidi to Mensch.
Fact - Heidi then vanished.
Fact - They hid all info on Bohrer even though FBI took his statement in 95 and he was listed as a suspicious person
Fact - Dan Barney was real probable suspect
Fact - Store owners file was breached prior to Gary's original trial
Fact - They with held the suspect list
Fact - They with held CI card, per Terry Whipple testimony, "I can not give to defense what was not given to me."
Fact- Gary, nor Sharon ever went to Mass, per Sheriff own testimony and paperwork of them detailing Gary's Cadillac in his driveway the night of April 3, 1994.
Fact - The Sheriff dept and the DA office are habitual liars.
Fact - The higher powers in OZ, have no idea, all eyes from higher authority have watched every move they have made for 4 years for a reason.
Fact - Officer Petrowski disposed of, stole or has hidden evidence. Just may have been caught by higher authority, than himself.
Fact- citizens were complaining even DA Oakes went around spewing an entirely new theory about Gary throwing Heidi remains off a cliff in MASS, even though evidence shows Gary was in OZ, NY.
Fact Greg seems to believe the words only from Baldasaro, but clearly bypasses the suspects own admissions.
Fact everyone but Baldasaro to Oakes is hear say. Even though it's a fact Baldasaro in the Sheriffs papers claims he heard everything from a man named chicken.
Fact- Chicken tells the Sheriffs. He hears nothing from Gary. Is that why Chicken wasn't called to testify.
Fact That Donald Dodd is a dirty ass DA, and Oakes is right on Dodds heels.
                                                                                                                            November 6/17

Heidi Allen case
I wish that someone would do an entirely factual story from front to back on how the brothers became suspect and one was convicted and the other acquitted. There is so much available for the public to get the facts about.

Juries get it wrong often and that’s why there have been so many people let go over the past 10 years, and more. Mostly because of false convictions due to shoddy DNA testing but others from misidentification and prosecutors who “coach” their witnesses into saying what they think the jury wants to hear to convict.

Didn’t Dodd say during the Hearing that all documents had two stamps and a green mark? Well, where’s those on Mrs. Granger’s statements? “All documents were handled the same.” I think not. Or did you mean only the documents YOU wanted handled that way. Was Mrs. Granger’s statements one of those documents which you wouldn’t say what it was that you weren’t turning over?

Are most prosecutors ego-maniacs?
                                                                                                                            November 3/17

Brenda Rice....Really
Brenda Rice is Oswego City's version of Howie Hawkins. Runs every couple of years and nobody is going to take her serious. Two minutes of talking to her on the front porch is enough exposure for a couple of years.
Hang it up Brenda...your mouth alone will defeat you.
                                                                                                                            November 3/17

Lets Get To Know The Real NATE EMMONS
Lets get to know the real Nate Emmons...

Since being elected into office as an Alderman NATE EMMONS has done the following...

1. NATE EMMONS has voted YES to RAISE TAXES.. so his flyer "cutting out the fat" must have a different meaning to Nate Emmons

2. NATE EMMONS voted YES to lay off Fireman from The Oswego Fire Department

3. NATE EMMONS voted yes to layoff CSEA Employees



                                                                                                                            November 3/17



Brenda Rice
Three times the first ward elected someone else and they all were duds.
Maybe it is time for Brenda Rice.

                                                                                                                            November 3/17


Xpress Auto Care
Beware aware of the crew over at Xpress Auto Care as they are failing inspections on purpose. I was recently there and the crew are a bunch of young punks who lie and falsify documents. I told the crew I was going to report them to the owner and asked for the owners name but none of them claimed to know the owner (lies). After telling them I was going to report them to their boss they wanted to fight; no worries all the guys there weigh like 98 pounds. The main issue is they told me that my inspection failed do to the aliment of my car and I bought my car from a dealer less than a year ago and the car is like brand new; I was also told by other inspection places that it was obvious that they ripped me off as most don't inspect for aliment. Everyone beware and to the owner, you never called me so this is what you have to deal with now!

                                                                                                                            November 3/17

Past Witness
As far as Appeal and Dodd's or OCSD's credibility in discovery....Why does Pat Granger's first statement made on April 3, 1994 have a Received by Oswego County Sheriff's Dept. stamp on July 21, 1995? Her second statement was made on July 14, 1995. That was after Gary's trial already started. Is it proper to stamp "received" 15 months after the statement was taken?

**Head slap** This is OCSD who allows their deputies to write reports 2 years after an incident related to Heidi.
                                                                                                                            November 2/17


Death to common sense
Look closer at the Sheriffs time line.
4:19 a.m., someone arrived two hours prior to Heidi and turned the register on. Who, why and did they also exit the building. Sheriffs have, Heidi, Mr. S, Richard and Mr. Stitson all on the scene at the same time. Impossible. Their time lines a joke. Their investigation should not have started at the time Heidi turned on the cash register at 6 am, but at 4:19 am, I am certain the owners of the store should be able to explain who accessed the store prior to Heidi, who had a key and why were they there. No ones paying any attention to the fact the store had a visitor that obviously had access to store keys, cash register keys two hours prior to Heidi. The State police just slapped the shit out of the Sheriffs by saying we do not arrest on pure speculation and we work with FBI. SHERIFFS arrest on speculation, they refuse to work with FBI, the dept is a joke, ransacked by corrupt officials. That's reality.
                                                                                                                            October 31/17

Gary Thibodeau.....The Death Of Common Sense
Still wondering about all the loose ends in this case (easily found) and the real big one is the time lines at the store.

Stinson (not accusing him of any crime) said he was there at 7:38 after a deputy and himself timed his route and he found out his watch was 3 minutes slower than he thought.

Richard and Swenkowski got there a 7:41.

If Stinson got there 3 minutes before Richard and Swenkowski, why didn't he go into the store? Why did he wait 4 minutes to do so. Had to be after 7:42 per OCSD time of kidnapping by Richard and Gary because Stinson said he did NOT see Heidi....how, just how the hell could this ACTUALLY, factually and really have happened like this???

And he said he did not see anyone or any vehicles there, but Swenkowski did , Richard did, they both saw Heidi, but Stinson said he didn't see Heidi. Swenkowski testified that he saw Richard leave the store ALONE. But still Stinson said he saw nothing and then entered the store, and no Heidi.

HOW COULD THIS HAVE HAPPENED???? And was this addressed in the grand jury or the first trial. See people it is impossible for Richard and Gary (who was not seen there, by ANYONE) to commit this crime.

I know what my opinion is, what's yours?
                                                                                                                            October 30/17


RE: So what's up with this jeep and wagon business? Wouldn't that be considered theft of services? A lot of questions to be answered.

When Kells took a trailer from the citys old equipment and had the DPW fix it up there is nothing wrong with that. When he had it delivered to his house to be used for his Halloween hayride then it became theft of city equipment.

When he took a Jeep from the city impound lot had the mechanics fix it up filled it with gas at the city pumps and then delivered to his house to pull the hay wagon that was theft of services, theft of gasoline and grand theft auto.

The mayor knew and so did the police chief.

                                                                                                                              October 30/17



The FBI profiler said that the person that abducted Heidi Allen would be someone obsessed with the case and someone that would try and involve them self in the investigation. That fits two people I can think of Michale Boher and Lisa Buske.
                                                                                                                            October 24/17

I to hope it's their turn...

                                                                                                                            October 23/17

Deadline: Crime with Tamron Hall "The Vanishing Clerk"
I watched. One of the most noteworthy quotes from the show was when Lisa Buske, Heidi's sister, said that one can't form an opinion simply from reading the news. I believe she was referring to the recent revelations however, I'd like to take it back to 1994/1995 when the jurors spoke anonymously after the verdict. They, or only one, commented such as "they made the van move", we didn't believe Gary's alibi because "we thought she was trying to protect her man", "they must of had plastic in the van". Forming a personal opinion about the defense witness/es. Specifically, that Richard's (Teresa) elderly family members testified about his alibi but was having a difficult time remembering a timeline without opining the same for the eyewitness who was much younger that "I don't recall" often when questioned by the Defense. Facts via witness testimony show that it was impossible for the van to have moved the way it did in the time period testified to. Gary's alibi was acquitted of lying but not until after Gary's conviction. There was no evidence via testimony that suggested there was plastic in the van. If that's what the jurors based their verdict on, their own possible theories, they are just as wrong in their decision as the DA is for continuing to punish Gary "The Innocent" Thibodeau. ALL the theories of how Gary and Richard could have committed the crime of kidnapping Heidi have been debunked. She wasn't burned and buried on Gary's property as the inmates testified to as evidenced by no DNA evidence or any link by the FBI. The taking Heidi to MA in the Caddy theory was debunked by proof via Gary's alibis' charges for perjury relating to going to MA being dismissed and no evidence that the rolled rug, or whatever was claimed in the show, having any link to Heidi. No surprise that Lisa B. gave up hope on finding Heidi alive after 10 years when the DA claims that Gary and Richard "brought her to a place never to be found". "We just know they did it but can't tell you how, why or where". That's Justice? For Heidi's or Gary's family? Justice would be following up more stringently on the "boasters" because at the very least 3 cadaver dogs indicated in an area similar to where one of them claimed to have taken Heidi's body and the Fact that Jennifer Wescott failed her lie detector test and then went for another interview with the DA present and was recorded saying what she knows. And, IMPORTANTLY, Richard and Gary both passed lie detector tests. Richard-just 6 days after Heidi disappeared and Gary-a year or so later after the conviction. Why wasn't Gary given one by the Sheriff's before his arrest?
                                                                                                                            October 23/17


Even Juors didn't care
Is this what Lisa Buske is defending a case with no evidence not a drop. A case where the jurors were taking naps and reporters not only witnessed this, they wrote about it, in between naps LISA BUSKE they asked for a case of beer. Your sisters case has been nothing more than a joke. Fight away Lisa til you die, your fighting nothing. You've ALLOWED this along with your family.
                                                                                                                            October 22/17

Lisa Buske
What is it Lisa has done to actually fight for her sister? Not a damn thing. She's done nothing but pamper those who created this mess. While helping hinder an investigation. She's nothing more than a direct road block to the truth to what happened to Heidi. I'll tell you Lisa no one will help you any further. You are the reason no one else will come forward. You support the DA claiming your sisters a druggie and your Aunts a LIAR. Great support for your sister. One person of higher statue said it the best. Lisa you are simply not smart enough to figure out you have been fooled. Keep supporting them. Lisa why not tell the truly good folks of Oswego about your bull shit even with Dateline. Walking off the set when asked if you or Heidi were druggies. But yet support the DA DODD WHO CLAIMS YOUR SISTERS A DAMN DRUGGIE. YOU MAKE NO SENSE. NONE. Eventually even all your lies are going to come out. Then Lisa every one will know exactly who you are. A me,me, me type person. Not once have you ever truly helped your sister in any way. Not once since this entire thing began have you even met any of the witnesses only slammed anyone trying to help Heidi. Karma Lisa will come your way. SO quit asking anyone for help. Most people know your a self centered me, me, me type person that had no real relationship with Heidi. You are a fool, and a out right fake.
                                                                                                                            October 21/17


                                                                                                                 October 16/17Anne Bronte




secrets of the inner workings at the DPW.
We the employees for the city of Oswego DPW. Are instructed to dump our waste from our Vector truck (sewer vacuum) not all storm runoff sometimes sewage is involved. We are instructed to go up to the east side Reservoir behind the mental health facility and dump our thousand gallon tanks on the trucks in the woods. Somebody with the know-how and big enough balls needs to go up there and take a soil sample. I really don't think this activity is legal. But from the corruption and crazy things I have been seen happen around town, I would not know where to start you can't call the police because they have an agreement to immediately call mr. Kells if it's a city issue. I have witnessed that myself at my residence. With the discussion of Sergeant Berger stating mr. Kells has never been issued a badge. then why did one of your young rookie officers override my request to make a report to Oswego PD. And denied me that right. Is there anyone out there that can help.
                                                                                                                            October 15/17


The faces have changed but the city is right back to where it was when Gosuck and Dumbsmoor were running it.

Here's a good laugh.
Corruption at the DPW led by mr. Kells, just another bit of news to our taxpayers I bet you are not aware that Kells has an agreement with scriba we go out there and cut trees. With our tree truck chipper a supervisor his pickup truck and normally one more vehicle to carry guys roughly up to eight guys go on these Journeys to scriba. I've been on 5 of the trips myself, this is been going on since Kells took office. Is it just me or has any other taxpayers seen scriba DPW in the city limits working off the trade agreement of the tree removals. I have never witnessed scriba in our city doing anything. Oswego city DPW has spent a lot of money out in the town of scriba !!
                                                                                                                            October 13/17

Racetrack IDA Corruption
The track is owned by Oswego IDA/Operation Oswego who are running an illegal slush fund, revolving loans to each other. Tom Kells DPW commissioner with zero qualifications is a recent board member. This is the connection to much of the corruption between Oswego and NY State. And Kells orders the OPD to stand down on every complaint.



                                                                                                                            October 11/17

County of Oswego IDA
· Established an unauthorized revolving loan program, using its own funds, to finance a portion of the cost of projects. The IDA had 90 loans outstanding as of May 31, 2014, totaling nearly $9.6 million that were financed by its own funds.
· There is no formal process to compare current and projected jobs at the time of application to the reported number of jobs actually created and retained.
· Auditors found 31 companies that received loans only created half of the jobs they said they would create. http://www.osc.state.ny.us/press/releases/apr15/042815.htm

                                                                                                                            October 11/17



Re: Free Water
Let's see now…
There's a City of Oswego fire hydrant, hooked up with what appears to be a brand new fire hose supplying “FREE WATER” to the Oswego speedway.
Question’s; a) Where did the hose come from? b) Who was responsible for hooking it up? (Who authorized this?)
NOW! There just happen to the “Official Safety Truck” from “Safety Solutions” Parked on an off this past weekend at the west side fire station. (Solves where the city owned fire hose came from.)
But more questions’: Who owns the truck? And is it an Oswego City fireman? Just have to check the “duty roster” and fined out who was working this weekend…
Then fire Oswego DPW Commissioner Tom Kells and whoever hooked up that fire hose to the hydrant.

                                                                                                                            October 10/17



Re: FYI...Oswego Speedway Water Draw Free Water

That's an expensive piece of city owned hardware lying on the ground. It's a wonder that someone didn't run over it? Trucks pulling campers, big rigs, dark at night, or stole it? And if a fire had broke out in the city and the fire dept. needed that valve... been hell to pay.

                                                                                                                            October 10/17

More on OZ Speedway
Just read the news article on the ownership and promoters that are getting million dollar handouts from the Guv Cuomo for this Super Dirt Week event that claims to draw 70,000 tourists to OZ when in fact the facility can only seat 5,000.

As it goes the promoters and speedway owners have out of state business addresses that happen to be income tax free from taxes. So tax payer money is going across state lines and not back in the community.

Kells and the people that are city workers need to go to jail for there actions of double dipping and giving the speedway free handouts at the expense of senior tax payers getting shafted for these increases to subsidize others pockets.

How bad can it get?

So, after reading all the apparently factual info on the water stealing at the speedway, the Board of Education actions, Port Authority being mismanaged, the disappearing soybeans, the most well known area bank not being responsible with tracking missing receipts and financial responsibilities connected to this,, the whole DPW debacle, misuse of funds, resources, etc. The need to run misdeeds of city workers past Mr. Kells' when reporting a traffic infraction and dangerous driving experience to the Police Department... The OPD hand in hand with the DPW, school busses speeding through the city,. The new construction with questionable debris removal, without appropriate permits, safety features in place, hazmat issues, training issues, etc. These posts go on and on. Questionable mayoral campaign donation sources, apartments with prostitution running rampant....

Can anyone tell me...Where do these statements end up? Is it all a joke? Is all this a sick source of a type of entertainment? Or if true.... All just under the proverbial rug? Everything from- unsolved murders to stealing city resources and taxpayers money? If this is all factual, backed by tángible sources, facts, photos, and witnesses, how can these very public and well known incidences go uninvestigated? Why is there no official investigation or powers in place putting a stop to it, arrests, fines, or governmental interference and stops put in place? How bad can one city get before someone, something bigger and more powerful steps in?

                                                                                                                            October 10/17


If you will recall it took the State Police, FBI and US Attorney to get rid of the Gosek Mafia.

This bunch seems determined to out do them.





Today's Quote October 3/2017

Just because something doesn't do what you planned it to do doesn't mean it's useless.
Thomas A. Edison

Person Of Interest VANISHED
Michael Bohrer a person of interest in the disappearance of Heidi Allen has himself dropped off the radar. Bohrer who was arrested in relation to the abduction of another woman in another state testified at the 2014 Thibodeau hearing. While he had been seen since the hearing he seems to have completely vanished in the last 8-10 months. If anyone knows of his whereabouts send a message to this site.

                                                                                                                            October 3/17

Mr. Mayor and Mr. Kells
Is it true Mr . Kells that you watch your workers on GPS, instead of driving around, and surveying the work that has to be done ?
This is about you ,Mr Kells and your lack of construction and people skills. The mountain must be tall at your house, but you are three feet tall in mine !
I hope the new aldermen have more backbone than the out going bobble heads ! I guess siting around sucking coffee, is how they get there pat on the backs !
                                                                                                                            October 3/17


Today's  Quote September 14/2017

I believe that the way people live can be directed a little by architecture.
Tadao Ando

Donations "friends of Billy barlow"

                                                                                                                          September 13/17


Lest we forget Wheeler
What's that I read? At the pre-trial Hearing in 1995 Wheeler testified to not knowing that Gary was a suspect in MA? But...he received the warrant via fax in 1994 and the notes show he was at the brief on April 15, 1994 when Gary was named as prime suspect.

Now, why was nothing done about Wheeler's verifiable, blatant, proven lie under oath?



Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Does anyone think it was suspicious:.. that Jennifer Westcott didn't tell the inv. that she lied until after they told her the phone call was taped?

...that Oakes brought Tonya just to discredit her
...that Oakes said he didn't believe anything JW said but offered her (per JW) immunity
...that Oakes said he didn't believe Tonya but wouldn't give her a poly that she asked for
...that JW was just trying to appease her and get her of the phone. "I won't lie to ya"...JW to Tonya on the phone.
...that Oakes never mentioned that JW kid accidently hit Tonya's phone mumber
...that the whole phone call per OCSD may have been stagged. Yeah JW is going to put herself into a crime
..."I guess I was just confessing I had Heidi Allen in my house"...Jenn Westcott....remember she said she never lived there
...that JW said "I never said anything about them bringing her in a WHITE van...yes people sha said a WHITE van. The inv. then said "no, that isn't what you said".
...and then goes back and tells them that she was told what happened to HA.


The worst cover up since the JFK murder. Just read it, Swenkowski, Richard, Stinson, Bivens is all you need to read to know something fishy happened here and I dare any DA to PROVE this crime happened the way they said it did. IMPOSSIBLE ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE. You guys made a lot of mistakes.
                                                                                                                        August 30/17


December 8, 1994-Pre-trial motions which include request for discovery-the partial transcript page from Exhibit #28 of Oakes’ filing to the Motion to vacate says, “The Court: He doesn’t want to tell you what he’s holding back, Mr. Walsh.”
December 14,1994-Fahey went to inspect discovery material-
Viewed tapes, photos, etc…”a copy of the entire Oswego County Sheriff’s Department report relative to this criminal action”.
Why did this not include the bulk storage material from the search center? Those items were no less a part of “the entire OCSD report” to this criminal action? Had they been made available to Fahey on December 14, the CI index card would have been “found” then instead of May 1995.




                                                                                                                        August 29/17





Today's  Quote August 12/2017

Dreams will get you nowhere, a good kick in the pants will take you a long way.
Baltasar Gracian

It Begins
Garys appeal was granted permission to proceed.

                                                                                                                                  August 12/17

Cabin diggers








Moe says, “There are no cabins, trust me.” There never was.?

Coward…won’t publicly respond to being Wrong!

And, what’s up with taking a small excavator to the site After the ME completed their forensic examination? Look at Lt. Moskal’s affidavit #8.

BTW…Wasn’t Darron a prosecution witness? He built the “cabin”, aka “fort” for a youngster, and he testified that his grandfather, the landlord of 68 Rice Road would not live with his tenant in opposition to what D. Purdy testified to. Darron also testified that he would mow Purdy’s lawn and take care of their dog Because They Were Not At Their Residence. Trust Me…if one was at the Hearing, one would KNOW the testimony.

I believe the good people who have come forward, risking ridicule and naysayers, more than I believe LE who has proven time and time again to be fabricators and twisters of facts. Kudos to all who take that risk. Their information is invaluable to the Big Picture.

Thank you for posting on your site the Facts and Truth about a case that has riveted the community for 20+ years. We want the entire truth and we want Heidi found!!











                                                                                                                                  August 12/17

Old News revelation in Heidi Allen Case
Maybe you or someone in public land would care to discuss the likely reason that Oakes filed a dismissed charge against a woman who claimed to have received Heidi’s bracelet in the mail years later. Interesting enough about that dismissed charge is that Auntie, apparently, swapped Heidi’s name for true person, and maybe twisted some other details? A whole slew of other witnesses’ past, wasn’t filed for the hearing. Was Auntie mad that someone other than she, from the family, spoke up to say something other than “We trust our law enforcement”? Auntie admits after 20+ years that “they kept it a secret” that Heidi was a CI. For 20+ years of lying, what credibility does she have to say that Heidi was in trouble and that’s why her husband got her into being a CI.

What do you think? Am I being illogical or rude for talking about a family member like that?

Sad Really that Heidi should and could have been found if not for people not wanting to take responsibility for their part in her disappearance.
                                                                                                                                August 12/17


Oakes' roadside conference where possible remains of Heidi may have been disposed of
First…didn’t 3 cadaver dogs indicate near the same spot?

Notice at the beginning of the video where John O’Brien is asking questions and Oakes blames him and an investigator of disturbing the area?
Notice the dates the following statements were given to police and the date of this roadside conference:
3 years later and still no apology even if Oakes didn’t know right away, surely he should have at some point soon after the conference. It didn’t occur to him that he publicly, falsely accused the wrong people of disturbing the area? (A little attention to detail may help solve the problem and answer the Question!!) AND why were the disturbers excused? Oh, that’s right, because Todd says there were no cabins back there so there was no reason to believe that Steen told Tonya about disposing of Heidi’s remains there. I get it!!



                                                                                                                                  August 10/17

Reply to death of common sense
Funny you knew about the big person who was present in court. You also knew exactly what was said. Wonder if the Sheriffs or DA are smart enough to figure out who was that was sitting on Garys side. Very few knew this person was in the court room. Very very few knew the exact comments made. You are absolutely correct. I also agree with this person present during the hearing. I do not think no matter what the courts say or do. In the end, the entire Oswego County will be taking a hit. Like one they've never seen before. This person has far more power than the little DAs playing a game. We will see, but I do think you are 100 percent correct. This person was NOT fooled by these idiots in Oswego and they made that very clear. But how you knew, is beyond me. You even quoted them correct. Not very many knew what was ever said. They also stated they could solve this case in two weeks. Seems the Sheriffs cant even after twenty three years. They did not pull the wool over this persons eyes. This person has far more power than even little Sheriff Todd.
                                                                                                                                August 10/17

Reply to Heidi Case
Good question seeing as not only did they pass lie detector tests, they passed pubic hair sample testing, cleared on DNA with all vehicles and on Gary own land. Why was it David Maynes was arrested for trespassing on Gary Thibodeau property at 2 am, he claimed he was snooping to make sure cops did not plant anything. Also why is it they continued this after they removed the judge whom would not let Dodd break the law. Look in to the other cases in the county that went on in 1994/1995 you will find Dodd could not get a conviction in the higher level cases with out a jail house prisoner. The lies Dodd even told about Sharon when Sheriffs officers testified that the Thibodeau's were home the evening of April 3, 1994 and not in Mass as Dodd like to make tall tales that seem to be contradicted by the Sheriff Dept. Why is it Nellis stated that Gary was arrested because he fit Bivens description of being the one dragging Heidi from the store but Todd testified it was Richard dragging Heidi from the store. To Heidi family, all respect is given but until you stop standing with the liars, you will get no further help from anyone in the public, You claim you want people to come forward but when they do you criticize them. You have souly stopped anyone from wanting to help your family. No one will come forward any further after the insane crap going on with this family. Back in 1994 not only did the family attempt to shoot at Richard and Heidi's fathers guns were taken, they then Martha Sturtz says rearmed the Allen family, I quote the uncle if we want to put a bullet in Richards head, we have the right to express that. In reality no you did not, its assault and you all should have been charged, if you succeeded in killing one of the Thibodeau brothers, you'd have been right along side of Gary in prison, but should rightfully have been there. He should never have been there. The Allen family has not been honest and it is sad, seeing as Heidi is still missing, seems they are doing nothing to help find her. They knew then she was a CI and lied to the public. My compassion goes to Heidi and not to her family whom has done a ton of hiding information for what reason? Her being a CI is important it opens doors to what may have happened to her, your family secret is NOT and WILL never be worth the life of Heidi. EVER. I will quote Fredrick Lings and Richard Stepien as they testified, they admitted the Thibodeau's were home the night of April 3, 1994 not in Mass as Dodd tried to claim for grounds to arrest Sharon. Ling said, " On April 3, 1994 around midnight, I jotted down the license plate number of the Cadillac." Well per Dodd's lies, he claims this Cadillac was in Mass. If you can not see the lies Lisa B, you shouldn't be printing any books, or blogs in regard's to your sister. Stitson also called you out on your own lies built and written in your book. Pretty sad, all of these lies are why Heidi has never been found. Dodd calls all claims against his dept. "baloney." Guess the Allen family never noticed another murder case going on at the same time as Gary's. Chavez-Flores case in 1995 in which case again two jail house prisoners were used at the same exact time and I will also quote Lanza, "Its Ridiculous, why can't cases be judged on merits, the Da can not win a case in this county with out jailhouse prisoners." I will quote myself he can not win a case without lying either and I guess the Allen family never noticed any other cases unfolding the same EXACT way. They violated every possible law to gain this conviction and Gary's case was not the only one. During 1995 Dodd had another case tossed, why cause he had two theories. SO- tell us if Gary buried Heidi on his property, like DA suggests, then why is there a theory he fled to Mass? Two theories, ILLEGAL and this case should have been tossed. In the end it will be. This is where the idiot OAKES came up with this new theory he told to citizens as he made his rounds in Oswego during re election. He claimed to citizens that they tossed Heidi's remains over a cliff in MASS. If you believe that shit story that came from DODD, seek mental help Oakes. Two officers already confirmed that was an out right lie, that you continued to spread to the public a few years ago. (which originated from none other than DODD) When real honest people start to stand up and do the job the Sheriffs refuse to. Then this case will explode and hopefully men in real suits will come wipe out the entire legislative branch of Oswego. The old news is making its rounds and this case has become a national disgrace.
                                                                                                                                August 4/17




Richard Thibadeau's Van

In The Possession Of The Oswego County Sheriff's Department.

All of the doors are black and

there is a large black stripe down each side.

Only the front is all white


OCSD investigators took statements from people describing a white van and or a light blue van.

A 10-year-old with 20-20 vision or a visually impaired 110-year-old will tell you this is not a white van.



This is a BLACK AND WHITE van.

ANYONE WHO GAVE A DESCRIPTION (from a view other than head on),




Inside sources say the OCSD has recently conducted yet another search/inspection of Richard Thibadeau's van and again found no DNA or any other evidence.


That is at least twice they have proven there is no connection between Thibadeau's van and the disappearance of Heidi Allen!



Fire department
Does anyone know if our resident fire department THIEF is one of the firefighters being laid off? If not he should be.
Looks like he is trying to impersonate a Fire Chief, maybe he is going to apply for the Chief's job next year.

This is OZ he/she could be the next chief.

Who made a noise

In David Stinson's statement, given on 4-8-1994 @ 3:56 pm, he says: "This all occurred in about 1-2 minutes. I waited a few minutes for the clerk. I remember hearing something in the back room to the left.

This sound reassured me that someone was there and I waited patiently for the clerk."




To the left? By the back door, the one not everyone knew about? The one the "family" used? Look at this picture closely, see the plywood covering up the old back door, to the left. Who was back there?


                                                                                                                                                 September 29/16


If the back room looked anything like what can be seen outside the back door he probably heard rats.




Today's  Quote  September 22/2016

“We were making the future, he said, and hardly any of us troubled to think what future we were making.

And here it is!”

H. G. Wells

I read what you did, and we all know who you are!
I read what you did, and we all know who you are! Donald Dodd, Reuel Todd, Greg Oakes, Mark Moody, Daniel King, and Donald Todd

As a citizen of this county, you all work for me, not each other. This is too inform you that I am calling you out, for the truth !
I have read all of the information you filed. There is no glaring evidence against Gary Thibodeau, because if there was, you would have had to file it. Further witheld evidence
would constitute another Brady Violation. I pondered today what in the world the former jurors were told in Gary's trial by you, Donald Dodd. Your timeline is preposterous. It is not even worth mentioning. Reuel Todd, please tell me what led you to the Thibodeau brothers? I cannot find any supporting documentation that sends the case towards them. A criminal never calls and identifies themselves, as being at the scene of the crime. Who is Borrelli, and why were you going so far as to talk about him being in a photo line up for the clerks at the D&W 4-16-1994, but on 4-14-1994, Borrelli was given "walking papers" yesterday. That would have made it 4-13-1994. On 4-15-94, you say:" Is it time to do a photo line up on Borrelli?" So you gave Borrelli "walking papers", I believe that means you let him go, on 4-13-94, but on 4-15-94 and again on 4-16-94, you were going to have the clerks at the D&W look at his picture? But after 4-16-94, Borrelli is never mentioned again.

On 4-14-94, the lead sheet says, "Danny Barney, has come into view as a probably suspect". On 4-15-94, the lead sheet says: Wheeler interviewed Dan Barney yesterday,
at length. Believes Barney is not a suspect." Where are the notes from the interview with Dan Barney? 4-15-94, it says, "late yesterday, Gary Thibodeau, entered the picture as a possible suspect. This developes from a lead that came in early on." Where is the lead, Moe? I can't find any documentation of a lead about Gary, being a suspect. Who told you Gary had a crush on Heidi? Or that Gary was ever coming on to Heidi? The only documentation about anyone coming onto Heidi, is in her diary, about her boss, Matt Duell, not Gary.

The case against Gary Thibodeau, regarding Heidi Allen's abduction, is all like the above mentioned fairy tales. This person is a suspect, no, we let him go. Hey, this person might have done it, no, we talked to him and he said he didn't do it. So you decided amongst yourselves, to pin it on a person and his brother, that you had no evidence against, only a citizen that was trying to help you.

So I say that the Appellate Division will get the public the answers we have been seeking for 22 years. Dumb of us to ever believe that our District Attorney's Office, or
Sheriff's Department, were honest or truthful. All you were looking for was someone to blame it on, to puff yourselves up, but I'm sure soon, it will be deflated, like yesterday's
birthday balloons. The public doesn't believe you, trust you, or support corrupt officials.

                                                                                                                                           September 22/16

Oakes habitual liar
Oakes you are a bold faced liar anyone with a computer and access to this blog can see how much of a liar you are. In 1994/95 arrest and conviction of Gary Thibodeau. Fahey repeatedly requested the CI file, he was told Allen wasnt an informant. He then requested a dismissal due to with holding of evidence. The old news reports do not support Oakes bull shit lies. Fahey over and over called Dodd, out on this CI status and requested her entire CI file. Again they played the Allen wasnt a CI. http://heidiallenarticles.blogspot.com/?m=1 take the time to study openly on your own. The DA office are hubitual liars and so are the Sheriffs. Request a state police if you need an officer. The lies are sickening. The Sheriff dept. Should be shut down.
                                                                                                                                           September 22/16

In Again Out Again Breckenridge
Roger Breckenridge out of Prison
Identifying and Location Information
As of 09/21/16 DIN (Department Identification Number) 13B0403
Date of Birth 08/11/1968
Race / Ethnicity WHITE
Custody Status RELEASED
Housing / Releasing Facility GOWANDA
Date Received (Original) 02/14/2013
Date Received (Current) 06/03/2016
Admission Type
County of Commitment OSWEGO
Latest Release Date / Type (Released Inmates Only) 08/25/16 PAROLE DIV OF PAROLE

Crimes of Conviction
If all 4 crime fields contain data, there may be additional crimes not shown here. In this case, the crimes shown here are those with the longest sentences.
As of 09/21/16 Crime Class

Sentence Terms and Release Dates
Under certain circumstances, an inmate may be released prior to serving his or her minimum term and before the earliest release date shown for the inmate.
As of 09/21/16 Aggregate Minimum Sentence 0001 Years, 00 Months, 00 Days
Aggregate Maximum Sentence 0004 Years, 00 Months, 00 Days
Earliest Release Date
Earliest Release Type
Parole Hearing Date 06/2016
Parole Eligibility Date 10/24/2013
Conditional Release Date NONE
Maximum Expiration Date 11/02/2016
Maximum Expiration Date for Parole Supervision
Post Release Supervision Maximum Expiration Date
Parole Board Discharge Date

                                                                                                                                                 September 22/16


Today's  Quote  September 19-20/2016

“Whether one eats a cat or not is a personal choice, and I don't want to sway anyone one way or another.

But if you do, there is one obvious cooking tip: Always remember to remove the bell from the cat's collar before cooking.”
Mike Royko


Gary Thibodeau...The death of common sense
Are the prosecution witnesses really witnesses as to what they saw or are they just a link to a prosecution procedure that convicted an innocent man.

Witnesses provide information to help the prosecutor convince a jury that a person is guilty as charged.

- Dave Stinson: was there from 7:41 - 7:45, waved down a deputy but did not tell him that he saw a kidnapping.
- Richard was there and left at 7:42 and was seen by Stinson (at least he had to be) but not seen kidnapping HA.
- Stinson walked in after 7:42 and no Heidi. Now how could Richard have done this in one minute, with Stinson being there but did not see anything. He also never mentioned that he saw anyone let alone Gary.
- Mr. Swenkowski said he watched Richard leave the store and then left. He was there at 7:41 also.
- Swenkowski also saod he saw one person.
- Two people there at the time of the crime and saw nothing.
- Bivens said he saw two husky men and a women but NO TIME WAS MENTIONED IN THE DA's STATEMENT OF FACTS.
- So this makes a question of when Bivens was there. Had to be after and close to 7:42 according to the OCSD as that is when Richard bought cigs and left.
- How could Bivens see the crime and Swenkowski and Stinson didn't although they had to be there at the same time because Stinson walked in at 7:41 and no Heidi.
- Bivens stated that he did not remember telling a deputy later that he had driven by at 8-8:30. He saw the crime, then Stinson has to be mistaken about HA not being in the store. Which could happen but he flagged down Deputy Curtis and he also checked for Heidi...not found.
- Stinson said he saw two husky men with a girl in the parking lot. He said there wasn't anyone or cars in the lot.
Wasn't Stinson and Swenkowski there per their statements. Swenkowski also said the deputies tried to convince him that his time was off but he stood his ground on the time he gave.
- I personally don't believe Bivens was even there..(just my opinion). His time is way off and no time was recorded when he first gave his statement according to the DA's Facts...no time given with his statement. Why not?
- Then we have Gary going to a MA prison and snitches give stories that we now know are not true.
- Bottom line: two witnesses there at the time of the crime but did not see Richard taking Heidi. Bivens saying he saw two husky men taking her (but no time was given by him) but Swenkowski and Stinson were there and did
not see anything.
To the DA involved in this. You sir have NO WITNESSES AT ALL! Maybe a story teller but if at least you should have had three witnesses. Bivens could not have seen a crime between 8-8:30 because the OCSD was there at that time.

I submit to you that you set up a frame of Richard and Gary Thibodeau (and a bad one that is full of holes) got bad info from snitches who I think lied and their statement proves it.

So I am going to ask in this paper right now to Donald Dodd to please answer my question: How did three people there at the time of the crime and two didn't see anything and one who didn't even know or did not want to tell what time he was there, which had to be around 7:41-7:42 did see the crime?

If I were you, I would be afraid, very afraid of a federal Investigation. If no investigation happens if Gary wins his appeal, call your state representative, senator and anyone else that would help.

                                                                                                                                           September 19-20/16



Buske Book
The book is largely based on secondhand information from the Sheriff’s Department, the District Attorney’s office and family members. The Sheriffs lied, the D.A. lied and the family lied so that basically makes the book fiction.
                                                                                                                                           September 18/16



In order to have cellmates they would have to be convicted of something bigger than a misdemeanor.

The Heidi controversy
I was under the direct impression. Heidi switched her schedule with Sally Brooks. Who was suppose to be working at the Fish on in port Ontario. Either way. There are conflicting stories from Heidi family and the DA office. If she was not scheduled the only ones who would be aware of this switch. Are her family, Brett and DUELLS, in which case Ms. Duell file seems to have been tampered with. Very convenient. No one else would ever have known. Unless Heidi told someone. I very much likely doubt that was her topic of discussion.
                                                                                                                                           September 18/16

Re: Gary Thibodeau and the Other 10,000 a Year Wrongfully Convicted in America


                                                                                                                                                 September 18/16

Re: Whos Lying
We know the Family lied, The OCSD lied and the DA lied.
Since the book is based on information which mostly came from these three sources then the answer to the question is everyone.
                                                                                                                                           September 18/16

It's common sense

Why would Donald Dodd or Todd know more. Hmmm, maybe because they supposedly investigated and prosecuted this case.

No matter what you post. The fact is. They should have known. Both her sister and their dept. All have different times,

ones clearly lying. I'll bet it is not Lisa Buske, but the DA office that was said in 1994 to be out of touch with the public

and their mistakes cost human lives. They were also in trouble back then for many different reasons. From lying, to

prosecutorial misconduct. If you read the old news. You'd be well aware of their tricks. I highly doubt her sister is bull

shitting anyone in her book. But I do not doubt that the DA office did a ton. Many people do not agree with your

questions as to how could Dodd or Todd know. Well in order to prosecute this case you'd think they should have.

Ridiculous remarks.
                                                                                                                                           September 18/16



Heidi often offered to work on the holidays.
Regarding Easter Sunday, another employee Sally Brooks, and Heidi, were willing to work; initially Ms. Brooks
was scheduled to open, but she had another job that needed her that morning. Therefore, Heidi agreed to open
the store that morning.



The day started like Easter Sunday did in other small American towns. Heidi arrived at work early, anticipating
the time she would spend with family and friends later in the afternoon. She volunteered to cover the morning shift
so a coworker could spend the holiday with her children, even though it meant she would be the only one working at the store.

                                                                                                                                           September 16/16

If She was working for someone else how were Gary and Richard supposed to know this?????

Did Deputy Van Patten drop her work schedule in the parking lot?????


More questions
Why was the first register tape transaction 4:06?
Why does the book say Heidi started work at 5am?
Why does testimony show Heidi started work at 6am?
Why does testimony show Heidi was on the schedule to work that Sunday?
Why is a “story” that another person was originally scheduled but Heidi took over instead?
Why does testimony show Brett left at 6:35am that Easter morning but the book says around 7:15am?
The inmates statements were taken mid-July.
Why did OCSD get the transaction tape from April 2, 1994 on August 11?
Why was Mrs. Duell’s file tampered with on August 12?
Why did Bivens testify at Grand Jury that he was in the D&W parking lot and the only car there was Heidi’s, his first

statement says he went by the D&W between 8-8:30 but his testimony was leaving Oswego at 7:30am, and his

testimony was about witnessing a physical altercation?
How could Richard and/or Gary have possibly gone to the D&W the morning of April3, 1994, taken Heidi to near Gary’s “to talk to her” brought her back to the store before anyone noticed her gone, made a purchase and then kidnapped her with the time between ALL the customers that were there the morning of April 3, 1994?

Final answer-People lied to help get a quick conviction, in hopes of finding Heidi or “getting their man” to placate the community after Mr. Benningfield told the searchers that the kidnapper could be standing there next to them.

Lisa-you did the research years ago. You know part of the Truth….that Gary and Richard are innocent. Do what’s right. You have plenty of support. Stand up to your family and the lying people you have, unjustly, high regards for.
                                                                                                                                           September 16/16

Here is a direct link to the comments Murtagh has made online. The top comment reads.
FBI on case has been on it for years they feel they have the right guy in jail
Posted on Key Heidi Allen witness texts pal: I lied to police about what I know
10/24/2014 10:32 AM
Which is an out right lie. As we are all aware FBI Points to Bohrer. In 1994 they testified then that there was no link between the Thibodeaus and Heidi Allen.
Murtagh also can not deny it was him. Several times. He makes it very clear. It is him.
Please ask john on this he knows who I am ( Rich Murtaugh )
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/12/2014 8:28 PM
He openly admits twice of removing a van from Valley Road in Fernwood. But no ones paying attention.
                                                                                                                                           September 15/16

Murtagh Confirmed
Murtagh confirmed no caddy in his posts online. So where Oakes got that from is beyond me. Murtagh admits and so did Breckenridge of picking up a van at Gary's. But no idea of a caddy.
I believe he said I towed a van from there not a caddie .. Jmo though
Posted on Oswego County DA: James Steen is pathological liar, but not Heidi Allen's killer
10/22/2014 8:33 AM
Don't no nothing bout caddy
Posted on Oswego County DA: James Steen is pathological liar, but not Heidi Allen's killer
10/22/2014 2:55 AM -Richard Murtagh. So if Oakes wants to use a hearsay witness. He should probley listen to the tower, that was there. No caddy. Sorry Oakes. You did lie in your filing. Little or big, it's a lie. You were giving some impression that the Caddy Dodd brought up was disposed of as well. It is not the truth.
                                                                                                                                           September 15/16

Who's lying game!

Time to compare some facts, between the book, "Where's Heidi", written by Lisa Buske, sister of Heidi, and DA Greg Oakes, Statement of Facts, filed October of 2015.

STATEMENT OF FACTS, page 1, SAYS: On Easter morning, April 3, 1994, Mr. Law arose at 5:45 am at Heidi's residence. He and Heidi left the residence at ab out 5:50am, and Mr. Law followed Heidi to the D&W Convenience Store. Heidi drove her maroon 1984 Pontiac Sunbird Station Wagon, and Mr. Law drove his 1987 Ford Bronco. They arrived at the store at 5:55 am.

Lisa Buske's Book says: Chapter 3 "A Time to weep" , Paragraph 3, page 35: As my parents settled into their swivel chairs, Ed sat on the couch while I snuggled into my favorite childhood chair. We heard Brett's black Dodge Cougar pull into the driveway then Heidi's feet skipping through the kitchen.

Chapter 1 Page 26: At 5 am, on April 3, 1994, Heidi opened up the D&W Convenience Store, located at the intersection of State Route 104 and State Route 104B, and her boyfriend Brett came along to keep her company until the store got busy. Brett often accompanied her on those early mornings.

STATEMENT OF FACTS page 1, last paragraph, last sentence, SAYS: Mr. Law left at about 6:35 that morning.

Lisa Buske's Book page 26, last sentence, says: Brett left the store around 7:15 am

Who's wrong? Who's telling a story? What was Brett driving, a Cougar, or a Bronco? Hey Oakes, did you ever check your "facts"? These facts, are very important, maybe you don't know which is true, who's playing the liar game?
                                                                                                                                           September 15/16


RE: Lies more lies Oakes
Oakes is using classic inadmissible hearsay and uncorroborated rumor to bolster LE’s theory of how Richard and Gary were involved?

Did Mr. Neadle testify? Did Mr. Neadle hear Gary say what Mr. Maynes claimed?

Wow, would have expected more from a top LE official. You studied this case for how long? Shame on you for believing/going along with the sham.
Love all the documents you provided in your Statement of Facts, Affirmations, and Exhibits. Can you publicize more? Please!!
                                                                                                                                           September 12/16


Lies, lies, lies
1. Gary "confessed" to 2 inmates.
2. Illegal search of Gary's property that yielded evidence of Heidi.
3. Phone wire taps.
4. Human bones in furnace.
5. Remains in rolled rug of blue van.

These lies are so easily exposed from the documents made public in DA Oaks' filing it's borderline comical that some people still believe them.

Truth, truth, truth

1a. news article 1995-Dodd says inmates did not say Gary admitted involvement. This is corroborated by the inmates' statements, trial testimony, and by more recent interview with a news reporter.
2a. Fahey tells Judge in pre-trial Hearing there were 2 searches of Gary's property. No pre-trial Hearing was held due to illegal evidence gathered and testimony reflected details of items seized and/or sent to FBI lab. Both searches occurred while Gary was incarcerated. First search on or about June 22, 23 when furnace was seized. Second was on or about July 24 when property was searched and 5 cadaver dogs brought to site with no alerts of human remains. There is indication from Oaks filing that the July 24 search was by warrant. NOTE: blue van was on property for all days of searching and evidence gathered from that van was also testified to.
3a. Phone records were subpoenaed for the MA witnesses. These witnesses were incorrect about Gary and Sharon being in MA on April 3, 4, 5 with a broken down Caddy because deputies positively viewed the Caddy at Gary's property during that time frame.
4a. Testimony shows that no human remains were found from forensic testing and bone fragments were more consistent with animal.
5a. Evidence first gathered from Richard's van on April 9, 1994 which showed no evidence of Heidi "ever" being in that van. Evidence showed that van was seen at a car wash after April 9. Piece of rug that was missing since the first search was found on Richards property. Property receipt given to Thibodeau's, forensically tested to reveal canine DNA. Witness statement about Richard and Gary seen disposing of a rug in the woods with Heidi's remains was proven false by evidence that Richard was working at the time and no physical evidence that Heidi was there (law enforcement physically went to location). Testimony shows that evidence was taken from the blue van during the search on or about June 22 that did not link to Heidi. Testimony from recent Hearing shows that after August 1994 when the blue van was junked, there was no evidence of Heidi in a rolled rug that was in the van.

Questions that should be answered:
Why is there a 40 minute gap between Brett's testimony of leaving the D&W and the time the book says?
Why did law enforcement and family say Heidi wasn't a CI when a Sergeant recognized her as a CI?
Why wasn't the bulk storage Heidi file boxes made available to Defense?
Why weren't the fingerprints from the index card used in conjunction with the notebook fingerprints?
How did Mike have a fax statement of Bivens with the Oswego County DWI unit phone number?
Why was the first time on the register transaction record 4:06?
Why did Brett testify in Gary's trial that Heidi wasn't afraid of anyone in particular but in Richard's he mentions Matt Duell?
Why does Dodd affirm during a pre-trial Hearing that he was withholding information and wouldn't say what he was withholding if he was going to make "the entire OCSD file" available to Defense?
Why wasn't the fact that Sharon and Richard were acquitted of their charges relevant to Gary's Appeal in 1999?
Why wasn't Wheeler reprimanded for lying during a pre-trial Hearing?
Why isn't Pietrowski being held accountable for missing texts?
Why does Todd keep lying to the public?
Why doesn't Oaks do what's right in the miscarriage of Justice?
How could Heidi's family stand behind law enforcement after all that has been made public?
Why was Jennifer the only recently named given a polygraph?
Why is law enforcement covering for convicted criminals when 3 dogs indicate in an area related to the boasting of several criminals?
Why was an excavator brought to the cabin site without the medical examiner present?
When will the Appellate Division begin hearing oral arguements?
Why was it not relevant to Gary's jurors that several witnesses admitted during trial to misconduct by law enforcement in relation to their written statements?
When will the insanity of "Justice was served" end?
Who will be the first to "tell the whole truth and nothing but the Truth"?
Who will man-up and answer - WHERE'S HEIDI?

Compare the theory of Gary and Richard being involved in the disappearance of Heidi and what is known as Fact and compare that to the recent revelations.....#FreeGary.
                                                                                                                                           September 11/16

Lies more lies Oakes
This is how bad the DA office adds to words from Witnesses. Read #179. Bold faced lie. Oakes directs you to exhibit 12, as proof. He says that Roger towed a van and a CADILLAC off Gary's property. Exhibit 12 from Mr. Needles. Says no such thing. He only says that Roger and David Maynes towed a van off Gary's property and Gary was passed. David was bragging about getting arrested for trespassing on Gary's property. Well, if the old junk van sat on Gary's property for over ten years. And it did not run, move, and was never owned by Gary. But the DA wants to give the picture this van could have been used and David and Roger disposed of it. Please, explain why Gary would be pissed for them disposing of what Oakes would like to believe was evidence, or the possible van used. Give me a break, I'm certain if it was, he would have been relieved they got rid of the evidence. Oakes, you sir, are the dumbest DA in this country. You also claim that Kidnapping/murder/disposing of a van across the country lines has a five year statue of limitations. Murder DA jokes has no limitations nor does the evidence in its case. Disposing of evidence with possibly a murdered teen, disposed of in Canada, has no statue of limitations. You sir, must truly think the citizens of Oswego are morons. See attached comments, exhibit 12 and Jokes statue of limitations of five years, to help protect a convicted Murderer Steen. I do not know which ones more psychotic. Ocsd, DA office, or these suspects.

                                                                                                                      September 11/16


To Oakes
It can't be simple. Either way. You do not think outside of the box, let alone inside of it. Richard or as your exhibit 12 mr. Needles calls him Dicki Murtagh actually plastered across the internet one night, that he and a employee did haul a van out of Fernwood, off valley road at a red house. Now this red house was very Good friends to Michael Bohrer. It couldn't be Oakes that they covered their ass by moving a van off Gary's property. So they could move this second van on Valley Road. And say it was the van they moved off Gary's. Oakes you can not possibly be that stupid. It's common sense. In which case you lack a shit load, I believe you should track down Mr dicki and request he explain the white van they removed off Valley Road, in Fernwood, for Roger Breckenridge. Around the time of Heidi. If you need a copy of those messages. They can easily be supplied. You also cannot claim it wasn't Murtagh who posted them. A reporter called him out online confirming it was indeed Richard Murtagh.
Omg please no mistake we (3 of us) picked up two vans at gt house ... Me roger & a 3rd person picked up a dift van in fern wood I can't tell you where it was but I'm sure I can drive right to there like I did last week going to Gary's house ( that I had only been to twice before in the 90's
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:25 PM
It was a red house is all we can remember
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:17 PM
I'm sorry I don't I'd just be guessing but one of my helpers just asked me if I remember going to fern wood to get a white van at 1st didn't remember but after talking a bit I do now
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:08 PM
No in fern wood ( I think that's how you spell it
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:05 PM
Omg I don't know I just remember him coming to me wanting me to pick one up for him .. Never gave it much thought till tonight talking it over with my staff
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 10:55 PM
You all ready for this one ????? I do remember going with RB to fern wood to pick up a white van that he had to junk back around same time of the ha deal
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 10:52 PM
Copied right from Syracuse.com, I think you need to start using the laws set in place that were meant to help victims. Not protect murderers.
I'd also explain to Dickie, those involved. Do not get the reward money.
Is there still a cash award up & if so how much is it .. What you got to do to receive it ty
Posted on Judge in Heidi Allen case reverses decision, will allow DA to respond to wrongful conviction claim
9/19/2014 5:48 PM
Pretty sick Murtagh plastered that across the internet. Then requests the reward money. What a great guy. With zero conscience.

                                                                                                                                           September 11/16

Mrs. Duell testified about the register tape, items purchased and time...??
It strikes me as odd that "The time had to be entered into the memory of the cash register. (Tr. 1488)."

Could it be possible that the register tape was...manipulated when the deputy went back on August 11, 1994 to get the register tape from April 2, 1994? Mrs. Duell's OCSD file was tampered with on August 12, 1994.

RE: Questions to be answered
Deputy Curtis testified in the original trial that the money from the register was deposited in the bank. (DA's Statement of Facts does not state this.)

-Sergeant Lortie specifically calls Heidi a "confidential informant" and recognizes her name from working with the ACT team.
It appears his involvement with the case after this report became limited?

-Family, LE and Dodd's denial that Heidi was a "CI".

-Neither VanPatten nor Mrs. Duell notify Heidi or the family of the information dropped in public.? (Thinking they may have considering Brett would stay at Heidi's work until customer traffic picked up.)

-The informants card, photo, etc was "lost" from the time of the Heidi Center move until it was "found" in bulk storage within OCSD on May 16, 1995.

-Pre-trial Hearing Judge's acknowledgment that Dodd was not going to say what he was holding back as far as discovery.

-No mention whatsoever from either Defense or Prosecution during Gary's trial that Heidi may have been a confidential informant. Dodd didn't carry the card, photo, etc...to the original trial? There were 2 prints on the card taken to the Heidi Center right after the disappearance but LE used notebook prints instead? One would think the prints taken in a controlled manner would be more relevant?

-Mrs. Burr recently signs a statement about Heidi's involvement with LE in an informant capacity up to a short time before her disappearance. Brett's recent dialogue with Oakes about Heidi being afraid of a "coke-head" that lived near the D&W.

**"Good arrest, good conviction"....PPPfffttt**

                                                                                                                                            September 9/16

Lorti Report

“Writer and VanPatten returned to the store and were informed that Inv. Scruton could not locate C.I. file for Allen. VanPatten was Allens contact for ACT Team so writer asked VanPatten if he turned the file over to Inv. Scruton. He did not recall Allen as a C.I. in 1991 until writer reminded him. VanPatten then called the office and had someone check his mailbox. The file was located and relayed to the crime scene.”
Sgt. Lortie’s report 4/27/94

When you see the date of this report 4/27/94 you have to wonder if it was the original or a revised report. Otherwise why would it take 23 days to get it done.

I think everyone knows cops will not rat out other cops but honest cops will not take a hit for crooked ones either. If you ask an honest one to give a statement or testify they will often tell you the facts as they happened. They will not volunteer anything someone in authority has to ask. In many cases those in authority know or suspect the answers they will get so they do not ask the questions, i.e. Watergate and Serpico.

At any rate that just may be what is happening in the paragraph above. After 23 days Sgt. Lortie has had time to think over what has been going on.


VanPatten somehow manages to lose Allen’s picture ID card indicating she was an informant, and he does it in the parking lot where she works.


Three years after working directly with Allen as a Confidential Informant he tells Sgt. Lortie he does not remember her. Then in the next breath VanPatten knows exactly where to find Allen’s missing C.I. file.

At that point someone should have been asking VanPatten to account for his whereabouts on the morning of April 3/1994.


re Timleine
According to testimony from Brett Law, he left the store at 6:35am BUT according to the book “Where’s Heidi” page 27, Brett left at 7:15am. Which is it? It makes a VERY big difference. 40 minute difference. The difference between the inmates being truthful or not.
According to the timeline, there were no customers between 7:20am and 7:38am. That would leave 18 minutes for the “confession” to be true.

It takes about 16 minutes one way from the D&W to Gary’s house.

                                                                                                                                            September 8/16

Questions That Should Be Answered!

Sunday, April 3 1994 @ 2:00 AM was the beginning of daylight savings time.

Was every witness interviewed asked if they were referencing their recollection of time based on standard time or had they set their clocks ahead and based their statements on savings time????

“The first entry on the tape was 4:06 when the cash register was turned on.”
“When Heidi arrived at work she set the time on the cash register”
“The detail tape then showed three zeros and then gave the correct time of 5:55 am.”
Therefore Heidi “started her drawer at five minutes to 6:00 am.”

If Heidi was setting the time on the register because of daylight savings time Then the register should have shown the time as 4:55 when it was turned on.

Why was it at 4:06? AM? PM?
Did the register keep the correct time?

“6:16 am no sale entry on detail tape (Tr. 1515)”
Nine minutes before her boyfriend Bret Law left the store
someone hits the no sale button presumably to open the cash drawer. Did anyone balance the money in the drawer with the sales listed on the tape? Was all accounted for? If the answer is yes then what was the reason for the no sale entry?

At 5:45 Bret and Heidi wake up.
At 5:50 the two get in a car and drive to the store.

Are we talking about a couple of average teenagers or is this Wonder Woman and Superman?
Come on, who do you know that wakes up from a sound sleep, gets dressed, brushes their hair, maybe teeth and puts on makeup and is out the door in five minutes?

Scientifically impossible
If you actually looked at the timeline.
At 7:41 stitson arrives, at 7:41 a man cashes out he buys one pack of smokes and two newspapers. At 7:41 Stitson describes the store clerk missing. At 7:42 Richard shows up buys smokes. In the mean time. The 7:41 customer packs his smokes in his car, watches Richard enter and exit the store. Mean while stitson in the store waiting on the clerk, as Richard passes him, cashes out and is never seen by Stitson. As Richard cash out time was 7:42. So the kidnapping didn't take place from 7:41 -7:42 it took place between 7:43/7:44. At 7:45 a cop was on the scene and at 7:45 a van is seen in the town of Mexico ten miles away. By science you'd have to be traveling over 150 mph to make it in two minutes to where the van was spotted in Mexico. The time line is scientifically impossible. How does Heidi, the newspaper customer,Stitson and thibodeau all appear on the scene together. No one saw Gary or Heidi being taken. How do you travel 150 mph, on snowy roads?
                                                                                                                                            September 7/16

Here's another exaggerated example of OCSD, AND DODD.
SOMETIME between 7:30 / 7:45 a.m. umm not. Richard never cashed out until 7:42 a.m. the van was seen three minutes later at 7:45 a.m. we know she had cashed Richard out at 7:42 a.m. So between 7:43/7:45 is the only time that van could have been spotted in Mexico. Two minutes. Use a speed converter online you are up over one hundred and fifty mph, they'd have been traveling to be in Mexico at 7:45 a.m. Dodd did nothing but cross witnesses with other witnesses and confuse everyone with so many times, dates and so many witnesses. He messed up. Four people would have been on the scene. Not just Richard or Stitson. But the man whom bought the two newspapers clearly says he sat in his car for a minute and watched Richard exit the store. So that would have taken place after 7:42 a.m. we can determine these times due to the cash register receipt and the evidence Dodd entered in court on his time line of events. Which none of it adds up. There was no 7:30 a.m.to 7:45 a.m. Richard had not cashed out yet. So if the van was seen between these times. It clearly wasn't Richards van.
                                                                                                                                            September 7/16

Bobby Wheeler

April 14, 1994-Bobby interviews Dan Barney "at length" but doesn't take notes or record the interview.?
April 14, 1994-Gary becomes "prime suspect" in briefing which Bobby attended.
May 19, 1994-Bobby receives fax from MA police about Gary's warrant.
May 25, 1994-Gary arrested on the warrant.
Late July 1994-Bobby and Herb interview both inmates.

April 18, 1995-Bobby testifies at a pre-trial (Huntley) hearing that he didn't know Gary was a suspect before his warrant arrest.
May 1, 1995-Fahey files pre-trial Motion, in part, to request sanctions against Bobby for lying during the pre-trial Hearing (Huntley Hearing).
                                                                                                                                            September 7/16

Re:Gary Thibodeau
Whoever you are supporting Gary Thibodeau and ripping apart the filing from the DA, outstanding. Some things you posted. I missed. Keep it up. They deserve any humiliation that comes their way. If the community cared about their environment and the sick things the DA and Officers in that county have done. They'd have a better community and safer community for themselves and their families. Instead the majority doesn't stop to smell the roses. If they did. They'd realise they do not smell so grand after all. It takes a big person to not only help, but to spend time paying attention and caring about others. Many have helped. Many still are. I can not wait to see these aholes from Oswego face the lies they've dished out for years. I can only imagine how many other cases they have botched to get a conviction. Dodd was told then you have zero evidence. He will be told again, in supreme. How awful a person they all are for incarceration of an innocent man. Dodd deserves prision, Oakes to be removed from office, sheriff Todd deserves to be a greeter at wal Mart. Petrowski deserves a set of cuffs. Wheeler prison, along with any idiot officer that helped go along with the bull shit in 1994/1995. I pray that they all have repercussions they can not stop. They have put many people through abuse of power. That's exactly what they used to get any convictions through that made zero sense. Gary deserves more than just his freedom. Hopefully with good citizens like you Gary will gain just that.
                                                                                                                                              September 3-4/16

Gary Thibodeau

What is wrong with this timeline found at the end of Oakes’ Statement of Facts filed during the Hearing?

No other customers at the D&W between 6:35am that Brett testified to and a customer, Mr. Wiltse at 7:38am? Why do notes from the Exhibits show there WERE other customers that made purchases between those times?

If Heidi was scheduled from 6am to 3pm, why is 4:06am first reported on the register tape if Heidi didn’t arrive until 4:55am(excluding the hour of DST)?

This timeline Can Not be accurate but was presented at Gary’s trial.


                                                                                                                                                   September 2/16







Today's  Quote  September 1/2016

 “Too much agreement kills a chat.”
Eldridge Cleaver

Oakes and Dodd, including Todd
They are not dealing with a small town attorney. Lisa Peebles is a powerful person. If anything happened to Gary, it does not mean any of this is going to stop. Gary asked Lisa if something did happen to finish this case. To clear his name and to bring Heidi family the truth. So no matter what they do. This is not going away. Gary's case will hit supreme court and national news. It's far from done. It has only just begun. Oakes is simply a coward. He questions the integrity of the sheriff dept and the investigator but stands by the fraudulent case. Then you got Todd who says he had very little to do with this case back then but stands by a case he seems to have had very little to do with. But a whole lotta say on what's factual or untrue. Wouldn't be because his brother helped Dodd prosecute this case. Couldn't be to much pride, based on nothing but lies. Pathetic. Supreme court on Gary's last case. They made it very clear. That just the diary wasn't enough to over turn the conviction. Many cases have been over turned for far less and many have had probes in to the cases and activing investigators, and DA office. Gary will go home. It's just a matter of time.
                                                                                                                                                   September 1/16


Today's  Quote  August 31/2016

“If you don't think too good, don't think too much”
Ted Williams

I hope Garys lawyer files a big fat lawsuit on the county when all this is over.
                                                                                                                                                   August 31/16

Gary Thibedeou
What is the Oswego Sheriff hiding? This case was a giant miscarriage of justice. Let Gary free before he dies in prison.
                                                                                                                                                   August 31/16

I think that has been the plan all along. Oaks keeps waiting until the eleventh hour to file documents. He and Dodd hope Thibedeou will die in jail and that will be the end of it all. This whole thing has the same stench as the Tony Pauldine trial and the get-out-of-jail-free deal that was given to Smegelsky.




Today's  Quote  August 30/2016

“If I were dying my last words would be: Have faith and pursue the unknown end”

Oliver Wendell Holmes Sr.


Gary Fiasco

Re Todd, Moody, Oakes, Dodd
"After twenty years I can't believe I have to tell you there is another van. " Wescott
"If you look in to reports of a van watching the video store CLERK in 1994 you might find information on the van." -Bohrer 1995 FBI statement.
"I asked Murtagh if I had hauled a stolen van used in Heidi kidnapping." -Steen
"The van we hauled off Gary's property sat out there for over ten years." -Breckenridge
" I do recall moving a van for Breckenridge back then off Valley Road. -online statement from Richard Murtagh
"Steen and Roger were talking about getting rid of the van, I was afraid Roger would go with Steen. She left came back. Roger left early that morning his ex wife says.
Ocsd, and the rest of the bafoons also have Stitson there on the scene by their time line as Richard and Gary would have pulled off this crime.
There was a scratch in the panel of a bath room wall. On the interstate headed towards buffalo. The said Heidi Allen was a rat. Hmmm wonder who was using the interstate towards Canada. Maybe the fellas junking the van. Just a guess. This will all be exposed, in supreme.  Jennifer Wescott was given repeated chances to tell the entire truth. I think even her chances are up. Such a believer in God Jennifer was during the hearing. She better start praying.

                                                                                                                                                         August 30/16


Dear Todd, Oakes and Dodd
If Dave Stinson was at the D&W from 7:41-7:45 and Richard bought cigarettes at 7:42 plus kidnapped Heidi, why didn't Stinson see the crime?

Never mind, it'll come up in the appeal trial.
                                                                                                                                                   August 28-29/16


Time line at D&W doesn't make sense: From the DA Statement of Facts.
7:41 Stinson arrives at the D&W
7:42 last transaction on register...Richard bought cigs.
Stinson must have entered the store just after 7:42 between 7:42 and 7:45.
7:45 Stinson waves down Deputy Curtis 3 minutes after Richard left. How could he not have seen Richard taking her?

Stinson was there from 7:41 - 7:45 when he flagged down the Deputy.

Richard bought cigs at 7:42 and left presumably with Heidi Allen and Gary kidnapping her but Stinson didn't see him.

So Stinson must have entered the store after Richard left and no Heidi.

Why didn't Stinson see Richard kidnap Heidi, he was there one minute before the last sale at 7:42 which we are told was Richards.

7:45 Mrs. Fabin sees van swerving behind her in Mexico
7:48 Brittany Link sees Richards van at Garys

So that means Stinson didn't see him but he was there.
Richard drove from the D&W at 7:42 to Mexico and then to Gary's all in 3 minutes.

Who was there from 7:42 to 7:45 when Stinson waved down Deputy Curtis?
How could this possibly happen?  Why isn't there a time for when Bivens went by the D&W in the DA's Facts? He said he didn't recall  telling a deputy that he dove by between 8-8:30 and saw 2 men abducting Heidi....impossible, Stinson said she was gone when he entered the store at about 7:42.

There's something really wrong going on here.

                                                                                                                                                       August 25/16


Watch key witness in Heidi Allen kidnapping case take lie detector (video)


                                                                                                                                            May 11/16









Today's  Quote  May 6/2016

"Religion is the opium of the masses."
Karl Marx


Do You Want This Guy Spraying Hazardous Chemicals

In The Parks Where Your Children and Pets Play?


Council Poised To Reconsider Herbicide Vote
Council awarding contract to fireman's business, ???????




                                                                                                                           Jan 11/16



Neither the Federal nor the State governments

have ever mandated that the City of Oswego

raise its water or sewer rates.

Anyone who says they did is a F**KING LIAR!!!!!!








Today's Quote  August 6/15

“It's your life. Live it with people who are alive. It tends to be contagious.”
Peter McWilliams


Oswego Firefighter Sentenced

Last night in Minetto Town Court Oswego firefighter and former Minetto fire chief Joe Smegelsky Jr. received the maximum sentence of $1000 and two years probation despite arguments from the District Attorney Greg Oaks and defense lawyer Timothy Kirwan. They had hoped for a lesser sentence but based on information in Smegelsky's pre sentencing report the maximum punishment was handed down.


An audit by the State Comptrollers office found that Smegelsky had taken funds and used a department credit card to purchase a handgun, automotive parts and assorted items. He also created a fictitious company which sold fire equipment from undisclosed sources to the Minetto Department. District Attorney Oaks repeatedly argued for special treatment because Smegelsky had paid back slightly less than half of what the Comptrollers office found. However the fact remains he paid nothing back until he was caught.



Joeseph Smegelsky Jr.


Below is a copy of the District Attorney's plea bargain and his explaination of how they arrived at it.

If you enjoy fiction you will love this.








Today's Quote, January 26/15

"I am not an enemy of the negro, we want him here among us; he is the only laboring class we have."
Nathan Bedford Forrest


One week ago we celebrated Martin Luther King Day. I am sure members of the Ozwego Fire Department seized the opportunity to rack up some double overtime but that is about the only use they have for non-whites.

Since its inception in 1876 the Oswego Fire Department has been as white as the driven snow, with respect to the color of its members that is. In its 139 year history there has never been an Asian, Black or Hispanic member. If you think this somehow reflects the population then you better take off your blinders. Oswego’s elected officials and Personnel Department have long allowed department members to live as far away as Montour Falls, Watertown, and Groton. There is no way you can cast a net that far and say, that population is reflected by our department.

In the late 1980’s there was young Black man working for the local cable company who sometimes frequented the Fire House Tavern as did members of the OFD. The firefighters exam had been announced and he was asking some of the OFD members if they thought he had a chance of getting in. He received all kinds of encouragement while he was there but after he left I overheard two of the Heroes chuckling and say no way they were going to let him in the department. “We have Guinias and Polocks and that is as integrated as we are going to get.” I do not know if the man ever took the test but the fact is that department remains as segregated as the day it was formed. They are allowed to operate as their own little fiefdom picking and choosing their own white membership and no one has the balls to put a stop to it.

The next time our Senators and Congressmen come around for their photo ops with our Hero Department we should all point out to the national media how they are supporting a racist organization. Perhaps we should ask the NAACP how this has been overlooked by their organization for so long.
                                                                                                                            Jan 26/15





Joseph Smegelsky


Audit of Minetto fire chief charged with misusing $22K in funds for guns, motorcycle parts completed
"This individual had keys to the cash register and went on a spending spree with the fire company's money," DiNapoli said in a statement.


                                                                                                                    Dec 20/14

Today's Quote, July 2/14


“Thieves respect property. They merely wish the property to become their property that they may more perfectly respect it.”
G. K. Chesterton


Oswego's finest screwing the taxpayers once again spotted at Dicks Sporting Goods in Great Northern Mall on 6/22/14.....didn't know they sold food there....or were they perhaps getting a new set up clubs at our expense??? Would still like to see the tab for the turning stone "conference" they went to....a whole weekend at the turning stone??? meals, rooms, drinks, etc???? The worst part is it will never change. No matter who is mayor they will always be controlled by the f.d. and no one will run against our current council members. Oswego has become homeowners to few (I stand corrected good homeowners) and is a city full of renters.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14

That was probably just Smegelsky picking up some guns. They should be checking the video at Dicks to see who was with him. That hero should be arrested too.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14

Minetto Chief
People like that are paranpiod about someone else stealing what they just stole so naturally he would need to get a gun to protect all his or should I say our stuff.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14


Ambulance Numbers

Yes, they are not as correct as they should be as I left off the 2 additional firemen that go out on Ambulance #2 and many of the other expenses that can be attributed to the ambulance service . In reality here is a $300,000 loss each year without he expense of a new ambulance. The point is, we will never make a profit on this service; have a fully qualified ambulance located in Oswego (Menter) that can handle all emergencies; could cut 15 men from the department with all their benefits and return $2,000,000 to the taxpayers; while cutting the long term obligation of retirement and the padding of such for years to come.
Unfortunately, the obtuse Mayor, Council, and most of all ,Fire Chief, have another agenda and it is not in the best interest of he taxpayers. McCrobie probably was, at one time, a good fireman, but as a chief and leader lacks in total credibility. The way overtime is handed out only shows that he is helping to bump up he retirement of the soon to retire firemen by thousands of taxpayers dollars. There is a belief that hey will all get their turn is the OT merry-go-round, but the fact is, the tier 6 firemen will never see that benefit. The new anti padding law passed and signed by he governor will not allow tier 6 employees to add any more than $15,000 to their retirement benefits, and they will now have to go for the last 5 years instead of 3. If I were a tier 6, I would tell the tier 5's to stick their $50.00 they pay for the OT and start taking their share of the OT, because it will all be ending when all the tier 5's retire.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14

Minetto Fire Chief
I asked a few weeks ago if anybody knew what was going on with Minetto's Fire Chief well here you go.
Stole $20,000 from the fire department. I'm going to guess he possibly stole more since he's being held with no bail. Coinsedently though he just bought a piece of property behind his own for $20,000. Don't believe me? Here's the property taxes. Coincident? You should take a drive by his property to check it out. Constantly cars & trucks are being 'stored' there and then disappear. Camper was there for a whole summer now that's gone. I even seen the Minetto's fire truck pull up to his vacant property hook on a utility trailer with all the fireman in it and take off. Now Minetto Fire Dept has plenty of property to store at their station. Why would they use his? I offend wondered why a property owner who only has 1/4 acre of grass need a 0 point turn lawn mower? Probably the fire departments.



                                                                                                                    July 2/14




Reporting Welfare Fraud
If you suspect, or have knowledge of a social services client fraudulently receiving assistance from Public Assistance, Food Stamps or Home Energy Assistance (HEAP), you should report it to the Office of Temporary and Disability Assistance.




Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force 



Secret Service Electronic Crime Task Force




RE: Oswego Corruption
Here are some places you should send your complaints.
Do not waste your time with the county DAs office.

Office of the State Comptroller

Division of Investigations
59 Maiden Lane
30th Floor
New York, N.Y. 10038
212-383- 2502



Office of the State Comptroller
Division of Investigations
110 State Street

Albany, N.Y.   12236-0001


New York State Office of the Attorney General
Public Integrity Unit
120 Broadway, 22nd Floor
New York, N.Y. 10271



New York State Reigonal Office of the Attorney General
615 Erie Boulevard West, Suite 102
Syracuse, NY 13204
Phone Number: (315)448-4800

Consumer Frauds Number: (315)448-4848
Fax Numers:
(315)448-4853 (Main Number)
(315)448-4851 (Consumer Frauds Bureau)
Office Hours: 8:30 a.m. to 6:00 p.m., Monday thru Friday

United States Justice Department
Organized Crime & Racketeering
James Handley Federal Building
Syracuse, N.Y. 13261

Federal Bureau of Investigation
James Handley Federal Building
Syracuse, N.Y. 13261

New York State Police
1220 Washington Avenue
Building 22
Albany, NY 12226-2252


New York State Police
Fulton, NY

6 East 12th Street,

Fulton, NY 13069



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