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Today's Quote March 22/2018

My parents weren't around much, but I assumed everybody's family was the same.

I didn't know people had mummies and daddies who would give them milk and cookies after school.

I just thought everybody lived on Central Park West and they had a nanny to take care of them.
Stephen Sondheim

Tony Boloney not following the law; as usual
This pile of debris has been sitting at the old YMCA for the past year and the city codes says it is unlawful. City Hall can view this site and Jim Bell, Code Enforcement only needs to look out his window from the 3rd floor to see the mess that has been there for the past year. There is no Building Permit publicly posted as required by law, so all the bullshit from the mayor about cleaning up the city is just that. Bell is too busy sitting on his ass in his office to go after the “pimple popper”. This is the leadership we have in the city and Barlow and his cronies are messing up the city big time….. Maybe if Bell got out and looked around instead sitting the office, or sitting at the car wash on city time, or attending meetings at the school on city time, there might be a chance of stopping the crap that goes on in this administration…just another corrupt administration… The Coleman building looks just as bad as the YMCA, and the old Buckout Jones Building is a mess as well. Tony, thanks for turning our city into a shit hole.

§ 207-15 Dumping in prohibited areas.

It shall be unlawful for any person to dump, place, deposit or permit to be deposited upon any public or private property, or upon any street, sidewalk or other public place in the City of Oswego, any garbage, ashes, rubbish, yard wastes, building debris or other objectionable wastes, except as hereinafter provided

§ 249-4 Inspection.

Any real property owned by an individual, corporation, or other entity is, when reported to the proper authorities, subject to inspection by Code Enforcement officials of the City of Oswego, New York.

§ 249-10 Notification of violation and remedies.

Upon notification of a violation of any sections of this chapter, the Code Enforcement Official will notify the owner, tenant and occupant of his/her findings and explain, in detail, the steps the owner, tenant and occupant must take to bring the premises into compliance. This may be done by any of the following methods:
By certified mail, return receipt requested.
By registered mail, return receipt requested.
Hand delivery by a Code Enforcement official.
By U.S. Mail.


The Code Enforcement Official will also set a day by which time the work must be completed.
If the work is not completed as required in the notification sent to the owner pursuant to Subsection A herein, the City may go upon the premises in violation and may take or cause to take appropriate measures to alleviate the conditions complained of. In the event that the City does take action as herein described, the City shall ascertain the costs of such remedial measures and place said amount upon the tax rolls for said property, plus an administrative surcharge in the amounts listed below:
[Amended 6-22-2009]
                                                                                                                              March 22/18

I see a select few that are on Kells naughty list will be punished with a 3 to 11 schedule! All I got to say to that is look in a mirror Tom! Before you punish anyone punish yourself! Who the hell do you think you are? You and your late night rendezvous stealing moneys that were collected!!!! City money that is! You are corrupt and immoral and it is just a matter of time! I can't wait till the truth surfaces and you know what I mean! Matter of time leader!
                                                                                                                              March 22/18


Paying Taxes
If a person lives with there parents at the parents house, it might be that the person in question, does not pay city, county, school tax because that person does not own property ! And it might be possible that people that rent, might vote, but if they do not, it might be possible, that there landlord might cast a one vote for twenty properties that he or she owns ! And it might be possible a deal might of been cut for those tenants ( in lew of lower rent ) not to vote ! In which could alter the vote count !

Time might be coming to I.Q. check people that are running for aldermen and school board members, because the which tastes better, coke or pepsi thought, is not working ! And it would not hurt for any of them to have math skills and backbone. The lawyer has to go !
                                                                                                                              March 22/18

OFD Residency
Oswego residents, when a volunteer fire department has a low member turnout to a fire, the chief usually at the next gathering of fire department members, typically has a little pep talk and reminds everyone the importance of showing up to fight the fire. All volunteer fire departments have residency requirements such as you must live in the town of the department, neighbouring town or a milage requirement such as 5 or 10 miles away at most. To be a Oswego fireman now the only residency requirement is to live anywhere in New York state. How is the current Oswego fire chief or hopefully new one soon going to have the same talk with his personnel when thay live one or two hours away. New hires are going to take a job here to only get into the fire service to transfer where they live. And of course Oswego tax payers will foot the bill for sending them to a fire academy. Civil service law
requires you have to pick from the three highest scores on a current test, when the top three, four or ten people are from out of the county or sixty miles away you have to hire them. I thought mister Griffin was supposed to make Oswego safer and not a place for his out of town buddies to come and work and not contribute to the tax base.
                                                                                                                              March 22/18







Today's Quote March 21/2018

Put your heart, mind, and soul into even your smallest acts. This is the secret of success.
Swami Sivananda


Trump required WH staff to sign non-disclosure agreements


                                                                                                                              March 21/18

Allison Nelson
Hey Allison Nelson. You want to be a family court judge but you can't address a harassment complaint you received from Chris Emmons?
How many towns have got rid of you because you're a lousy lawyer? Why does the county legislators want to get rid of you as the DSS lawyer?
A vote for Nelson is a vote against the county having a second family court judge. She would have a conflict so she'd couldn't hear cases in Oswego County.
The Republicans always toss their trash on to the taxpayers.
                                                                                                                              March 21/18

Oswego County:
Watching the news the other night, and out of 62 COUNTIES in NYS , OSWEGO COUNTY RANKS 61ST !!!!!!! GOOD job BROADWELL, THAT is very sad, !!!!!!!!!!!

                                                                                                                              March 21/18

In the past couple of weeks, ive been called by the DPW, and told ,the MAYOR does not make decisions,( they do), as well as our new alderman, never gets back to you about a problem, so i guess that artical about KELLS RUNNING THE CITY IS TRUE !!!!!!!!
                                                                                                                              March 21/18

Fire Department
The cable news channel today made mention that the city of Utica was having to deal with a budget shortfall due to the rising cost of employees retirement benefits. It's bad enough that the Oswego tax payers will have to foot the bill for the current over $150,000.00 sallary and retirement, the Oswego fire chief will receive as long as he lives. Using the free, private ambulance service located in Oswego,will alleviate the need to to fullfill the Chiefs dream of hiring more fireman that the public will have to bear the burden of paying for and there retirement benefits. It's simple, a company with seventeen ambulance's makes the city far safer and alleviates the tax burden.
                                                                                                                              March 21/18

For all you people that want a new Mayor next term leave Kells alone! Believe me he is going to be Barlow's down fall. He is a criminal in disguise and a self serving idiot! He will not only do in himself but take the Mayor with him! Great job self proclaimed great leader keep up the good work and love that you worked the night shifts when it suited you!EmojiEmoji
                                                                                                                              March 21/18







Today's Quote March 20/2018

Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism.
George Washington

Re: what the hell is this
Might be fun to watch Kevin argue both sides, especially if it comes to
blows. He's gonna hurt himself!
                                                                                                                              March 20/18

Jared Kushner's company filed false documents on rent-regulated NY tenants

                                                                                                                              March 20/18



County timber theft
There was a timber theft on county property a week or so ago. Why nothing in the papers? Why no arrest?
                                                                                                                              March 20/18

OFD Soap Opera
So mayor your new fire chief pulled another one over on you. Your fire department employee who coincidentally just happened to get suspended was also the person that allegedly ran off with the fire chiefs then wife. It seems mister mayor you would want to review your chiefs true intentions. Lying and deception is the name of his game. That's why you still burden the public with a ambulance service that tommorow could be done for free by Menter.
                                                                                                                              March 20/18

crooked kushner


                                                                                                                              March 20/18

Think About This
The Mayor of Oswego, NY, has been going to Albany, NY every week since he was elected mayor !

Mr Tells has been putting himself in position of mayor, and A. Pauline in position of Jason Rudurick , so now Tells, Paulldine, Broadwell and that short dressed lawyer that the city of oswego, scribe, county, town of oswego have, will tell, when they have total control, how the taxpayers of the city of oswego, county, that the REAL IMPORTANT PEOPLE THAT MATTER, is supper of schools ( $ 250,000.00 per year plus health benefits for life, and his wife getting a $ 250,000.00 plus health benefits, and pension for life ). Did one of the school board members ask if her benefits would carry mini me for life, so maybe the taxpayers would not have to pay the $ 25,000.00 per year for the rest of his life ?

$ 25,000.00 per year ( and let us say that he lives 30 more years ) x 30 = $ 750,000.00 in health insurance. And this does not include pension and other money grabbing options !

Time to vote these pin heads out and get rid of mini me ! Put in as a option to perform in a two year period, if they fail, next !

And if the school board, and the aldermen are not doing there job, replace !

Lawyer for the city of oswego, ny one lawyer only, PERIOD !
                                                                                                                              March 20/18





Today's Quote March 18-19/2018

Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes.
Oscar Wilde

Wow Greg
Just wow. Your filings filled with lies. Sharon had no kids. Gary's kids lived in mass. Page 16 out right lies. Gary was home alone with Sharon. Not their 2 kids. Have you lost your mind. Or did you not read before signing. You are going to lose your job. Then you added testimony stricken from the record. Unreal prosecutorial misconduct at its finest. You've lost your marbles!!! Thank God you signed it. Troubles coming your way.
                                                                                                                              March 18-19/18

4 star Army general says - Donald Trump, aka *Cadet Bone Spurs* is a threat to national security


                                                                                                                              March 18-19/18

I'm betting Putin has a video of Trump and the Russian whores.


Mr Tells ( I am going to tells you something )
Wow, tells, pauline, bells , broad well , aldermen, and i will bet the the school super , and those mind lacking board members, are not looking for the betterment of the tax payers or the students, but there own self interest and power ,with out actually trying to do what is best for the student’s interest !

And it is also being shown what the mayor and his boss are doing to the taxpayers !

Wow, the city is being run by a popcorn king and a landlord money grabber. And we have a city lawyer that does not even look after the taxpayers, unless, he is receiving FOUR PAYCHECKS, city, county, tells ( kells )and broadwell .

When does the hand saluting begin ?
                                                                                                                              March 18-19/18

What the hell is this!?

Scriba Town Attorney Kevin Caraccioli, City of Oswego Attorney Kevin Caracioli. Negotiating water & sewer rates.
Caracioli representing Scriba while working for the City of Oswego. Same problem, Caracioli representing the Town of Oswego, while representing the Cioty of Oswego.


                                                                                                                              March 18-19/18

Students Protest on gun control
I would like to applaud the Students National Protest on gun control. Anyone who puts the NRA and political contributions ahead of innocent Children's lives has never been confronted into a corner in a classroom with an AR15 firing off rounds. Some of these people writing these articles blaming the Children for trying to seek help from our elected officials are out of touch with the real world. They sound off putting blame on the innocent Children by saying that they know nothing about guns and all they want to do is bully, disrespect and play video games. Then when they point out that they are not licensed gun owners and know nothing about guns well I'll tell you something they do know, they know the damage that these guns can do to innocent lives sitting in a classroom. Sometimes you need to protest to wake up the ones that need to and should be doing something about this. I hope the Students continue to fight for what they believe to be right. I cannot believe it when I read on this site someone putting guns before an innocent child's life. I would be truly shocked if the poster of the individual who was calling for zero's the day of the protest neighter has any Children or they are not in school as yet or they are out of school. I think we see now who the "Disrespectful Bully" is and it is NOT the protesting Students. Great work students keep trying to get our elected officials in Washington to wake up! "Don't Give Up" "Don't ever Give Up!
                                                                                                                              March 18-19/18

Students Protest on gun control
I would like to applaud the Students National Protest on gun control. Anyone who puts the NRA and political contributions ahead of innocent Children's lives has never been confronted into a corner in a classroom with an AR15 firing off rounds. Some of these people writing these articles blaming the Children for trying to seek help from our elected officials are out of touch with the real world. They sound off putting blame on the innocent Children by saying that they know nothing about guns and all they want to do is bully, disrespect and play video games. Then when they point out that they are not licensed gun owners and know nothing about guns well I'll tell you something they do know, they know the damage that these guns can do to innocent lives sitting in a classroom. Sometimes you need to protest to wake up the ones that need to and should be doing something about this. I hope the Students continue to fight for what they believe to be right. I cannot believe it when I read on this site someone putting guns before an innocent child's life. I would be truly shocked if the poster of the individual who was calling for zero's the day of the protest neighter has any Children or they are not in school as yet or they are out of school. I think we see now who the "Disrespectful Bully" is and it is NOT the protesting Students. Great work students keep trying to get our elected officials in Washington to wake up! "Don't Give Up" "Don't ever Give Up!
                                                                                                                              March 18-19/18

The #ME TOO movement was grossly underestimated. I think these students are just beginning to realize the potential of their power. While not old enough to vote for the most part I see them having a very strong influence over the voting of their relatives and friends. Watch for the first indications of  this in November and then see how much it grows by 2020.

Jesus, is there no end to the harebrained ideas coming out of this
council? I just finished reading the article about contracting out the
maintenance of the softball fields and the management of the softball
leagues (1 league, 7 teams, less than 100 players)? Is the 28k in the
"softball fund" going to cover the required improvements before the
contractor takes over; don't plan on it. I have nothing against
softball, but with all the other expenditures (new paving machine,
ambulance maintenance, water and sewer taxes, new dpw and fireman hires,
ever increasing school taxes, ad nauseum, this idea seems just
frivolous. Why was there no mention of the potential annual costs of the
outside contractor? Oswego is circling the bowl already, one more flush
might do it!
                                                                                                                              March 18-19/18








Today's Quote March 17/2018

You think about getting old, but when you get there, it's not what you thought it would be. \
Jerry Lewis

Council Meeting
I watched a council meeting the other day on tv and watched some disturbing activities that you councilors are clearly too dumb to recognize. Baby Barlow was speaking about releasing funds and other things regarding the DPW, and the amount of times that Kells is seen in the corner either signalling or correcting the puppet Mayor was rediculous. Clearly it is going on right in front of your clueless faces.
Then Cockacoli gets up and says he sees no need for Oswego Health to be at the meeting when they are asking for a permanent easement! Don't you idiots realize that the scum bag city attorney represents the city and should never be there to speak for any other entity!? He basically is telling you all the decision is already made and your reason for being there is nothing, especially with your uneducated dopey questions. He represented Oswego Health for a permanent easement meaning they do not need to pay taxes on it nor maintain the property. As a non profit they will also pay $0 real property taxes on a massive lot and the adjoining easement. Intelligence level of you dolts giving away property is astounding. City attorney wrongfully representing other entities that are being given property from the city, right there in front of your faces.
Educate yourselves dumbies. Have you ever heard of ethics? Pauldine, Broadwell, Avery, Oswego Health are all receiving PILOTS by Cockacoli as the County Attorney and you are just allowing the tax base to be diminished. Fucking idiots
March 16/18

Trump admits making up FAKE 'facts' in trade meeting with Justin Trudeau

                                                                                                                              March 16/18

Donald Trump Jr.’s wife Vanessa files for divorce
Turns out she was one of daddy’s cast offs.

                                                                                                                              March 16/18

Touching Tony
Bill Galloway had to get some real estate documents for a closing signed at the last minute and showed up at Tony Pauldines house unannounced. Caught Pervert Tony all sweaty at the door with a young boy in his home gym and never said a word. You should have had him arrested you cowardly fat ass. We all know
                                                                                                                              March 16/18

To the idiot bullying the Students!
To the blithering idiot who knocked the Students about protesting guns such as as the AR15's AK47's etc. First off you idiot, Students do not think they know everything on guns and apparently neighter do YOU! You say just about all Students are not licensed gun owners, no shit Shurlock! What is your point? Is it because you are a licensed gun owner? The way you ramble on I sure as hell hope your not because you sound like you are a bundle of anger. You say they should all get 0's for the day that they protested for that fact that people are being killed everyday by these military type weapons. I'll bet you don't have any kids in school or you wouldn't be rambling on like you are. You said most kids like to bully and disrespect and to "wake up smart asses and fix yourselves" These students are NOT the ones that need to " wake up and fix themselves" It is the ranting and raving idiots like you that worries me. Get a LIFE! B.T.W. YOUR CAP LOCK IS ON IDIOT! I think the kids should get 100's for the day of protest for standing up for what is right!
                                                                                                                              March 16/18

This questions to Robert Wheeler. If you weren't a part of this b.s. case. Why then did you run from Investigator Haumamn and put yourself behind locked doors, so he couldn't question you. Upon fleeing you said. I'll quote you "You people want to put me in prison " don't you think you belong there? Bohrer speaks of you in his writings. He said you were showing cocaine symptoms on the stand and that Wheelers business was no good anymore. What business do you have with Bohrer? Cocaine? Is that why Bohrer knew you and called the sheriff's back then screaming "I know what happened to Heidi call Bobby Wheeler." We all know Bobby all about you. Your little b.s. in this case. Thank your buddy Bohrer that may be why "you think you people want to put you in prison." Not any fun is it. When the shoes on the right foot. Imagine Mr. Wheeler the Thibodeaus felt just as you do. Terrified. But theirs was for just cause. Everyone knows your dirty as hell. I'm sure Rainy could confirm a lot more of your back ground should we send them her way? Seeing as you messed w her life also. I think you'd deserve that much. Ooops didn't think we knew who she was. We sure as hell do. How many lives have you destroyed on your lies? Can you count them on your fingers and toes? I think not. You sir deserve a nice little cell right along side Steen. No conscience, no integrity and no dignity your cell will be in hell where you truly belong. Cause in the end you'll face your maker. You think it's bad here. You haven't seen anything yet. If I were you Mr wheeler. Id start wheeling and dealing. Because Steve Wilco is about to rock OZ and he is coming for all of you. The people he's tied to are going to put you in prison along side your little goons. Clocks ticking Wheeler the hunt for Bohrer has begun.
                                                                                                                              March 16/18




Today's Quote March 16/2018

It is to be regretted that the rich and powerful too often bend the acts of government

to their own selfish purposes.
Andrew Jackson

School Walk Out
I believe the students didn’t walk out because they know all about guns; rather they are tired of being targets. They have to deal with a constant fear that anyone, not just a student or a “democrat”, can come in with a semi-automatic and spray lead all over the place. The biggest fear back in the day was getting caught smoking cigarettes in the boys room. It a shame that you can’t recognize that fact. Nicholas Cruz, a former student like most of us, was the gun owner. However, I don’t know what license you are taking about that he needed to have; it was purchased legally without any such requirement. As a licensed gun owner in New York we are subject to the strictest requirements to have a pistol permit, that’s not the case in Florida. In regard to the bullying and disrespect, one only has to read your post to have a perfect example of what constitutes those traits you cast on the students. Your visceral reaction to someone exercising the first amendment right, that’s the one before the 2nd , is indicative of your contempt for anyone that isn’t as narrow minded as yourself. As for getting zeros for the day, I’m sure you got more than your fair share without even trying, BY THE WAY YOUR CAPS. LOCK IS ON. – Yosemite Sam
                                                                                                                                March 16/18

Interesting! Most of his defense arguments against Bohrer, Steen and Breckenridge would suite Gary Thibodeau. Is Defense not challenging enough? Would he rather get the adrenalin rush from putting together lies and twisting the facts to win? Or is he a pawn that can’t think for himself?

“repeated lies don’t make it true” That’s the most hypocritical quote from your legal position. What lies have you, personally, told that you claim is the Truth? Some have already been public.

You signed off on those filings/briefings so I hope you get the extreme wrath of Justice when the ‘legal system’ catches on to your blatant lies in legal documents.

Not a personal pleasure at your eventual downfall, but for Justice’s sake. Then, sadly that it happened in the first place, Gary can be added to the long list of exonerees of false convictions due to prosecutorial misconduct and biased investigations happening all over the country. #freegary Kudos to ALL who stand up against the corruption in OZ.
                                                                                                                                March 16/18

It is obvious, this poster this has an anger problem and shouting on this site doesn't make you correct. These kids are correct is their approach to the NRA controlled US Congress. There is a lot to this gun control problem, and even if some of them took the day, as a day off, their solidarity on this issue is correct. It would be my guess that the poster has never faced the business end of a AK47, M-16, M-14, Browning Automatic, M-60, or any of the weapons that were made for war and specifically for killing people. The laws need to be changed to keep these kinds of weapons out of the hands of angry, mentally unstable individuals, and those under the age of 21. The 2nd amendment is not a debate that is justified, as those that prescribe to the thinking of the NRA will misconstrue what that amendment is all about. I am not against ownership of guns, but do believe that military guns like the above or AR15's should not be sold at all. You want to use one, join the Army. I also believe that limiting the number of rounds in a clip should be limited to 6; if you cannot hit you target in1 or 2 shots, you should not be out hunting.
Controlling gun sales, back ground checks, waiting periods for purchasing guns, tracking ammunition sales, and implementing these regulations at guns shows would keep a lot of these weapons out of the hands of sick individuals, and would probably eliminate most school shootings. There should also be better security (not arming teachers) at the schools.
I believe if the public and the politicians taking millions of dollars of blood money from the NRA, were allowed to see what physical damage a 7.62 mm round can do to the body of a person, maybe there would be a change in attitude. Maybe they should post the pictures of the aftermath of these kids with parts of their bodies ripped off, to the NRA, the money grabbing politicians, and those that think they have the ultimate right to own these kinds of weapons. It is not like the movies, multiple wounds from a semiautomatic is grotesque, ugly, and not something a parent would want for their children.
I hope these kids keep up their protest and maybe it will end the carnage, just like protesting ended the Viet Nam War. The lies the politicians told us told us in 1966 are the same lies the politicians are telling us about not being able to control AR-15's. You can turn you back and hope it will go away, until it happens to one of you loved ones.
                                                                                                                                March 16/18

To your knees
God knows so many of you have been brought to your knees over the b.s. from the powers that be. But fear nothing. KEEP fighting, keep standing and keep speaking the truth. It's our turn to bring them to their knees. Believe and never give up. It's coming.
                                                                                                                                March 16/18

Who is in charge at city hall
Mr. Mayor, are you now going done to albany , ny four days a week ?
And Mr. Mayor, who is paying for this ?
And Mr. Mayor, is it true that Tells is telling you what to do ?
And Mr. Mayor, is Kells doing the hiring, without going thru the correct hiring practices ?
And Mr. Mayor, is it true that kells and broad well, pauldine, avery, rudurick, tells YOU WHAT YOU SHOULD DO ?
And Mr. Mayor, have YOU told the taxpayers of oswego,ny about the tax deferment for broad well, pauline, bell, kells,avery properties, to name a few !
Has anyone told you that kells fired to city hall employees, but hired two more , and tells gave himself a $ 25,000.00 RAISE !

Talk about STEALING , Mr Kells, you are the ROSE of GREED !
                                                                                                                                March 16/18








Today's Quote March 14-15/2018

The better I get to know men, the more I find myself loving dogs.
Charles de Gaulle

Gary "The Innocent" Thibodeau
Just read the prosecution brief for the Appeal dated March 2018…

You claim that Mr. Neville Sr’s testimony bolsters Mr. Fabian’s. PPfft. And what did we find out when the Defense questioned him during trial?.....That Mr. Neville Sr. was NOT the one who drove to the store the morning of April 3, 1994. In Fact, it was Neville Jr. who drove to the store. Wasn’t Jr. the one who called a lead about a weird phone call he received at his residence about where Heidi may have been and he didn’t recognize the callers voice? What is up with that? Did Law enforcement even investigate his lead and didn’t the jurors think anything fishy was going on? Also, wasn’t Neville Jr. in trouble with the law at the time of Heidi’s disappearance?

Yuuup..”the Da must have had something to get that far” but it surely didn’t become apparent, or PROVEN, if you will, in the Court of Law. law enforcement and the DA's office had months and months long media campaign to taint the public about whomever they accused. Not to mention the lies and dastardly games played with the Grand Jury. Yuuup…was a circumstantial case but the evidence DID NOT fit the twisted Facts.

-Real Fact-“no morphological details that suggest human remains” in the furnace debris. Twisted Fact-there were bone fragments in the furnace that 'could' have been Heidi.
-Real Fact-not one of 6 cadaver dogs indicated human remains on Gary’s property. No remains found after 2, that’s 2, searches of Gary’s property. Twisted Fact-The inmates guessed/surmised/theorized that Heidi was burned and buried on Gary’s property because the outside burn barrel was seized during the first property search while Gary was in the MA jail.
-Real Fact-Richard’s van was extensively searched and samples sent to the FBI lab on April 9, 1994 with no indication that Heidi was ‘ever’ in the van. Twisted Fact-Richard’s van was seen at a car wash on April 26, 1994.
-Real Fact-piece of carpet was missing from Richards van between April 9 and 26 which was found, determined to be the missing piece from the van, tested for DNA and revealed canine blood. Twisted Fact-the “rolled object” that a witness reported supposedly seeing the brothers carrying into the woods ‘could’ have had Heidi in it.
-Real Fact- Gary had 2 witnesses plus his (future) wife that gave alibis for April 2 and April 3, in addition to Richards albis. Twisted Fact-A bartender (who was also in trouble with the LAW) claims to have positively seen the brothers at a bar but told her boss she didn’t know the men who were in the bar on April 2.
-Real Fact-Gary and Sharon were in Oswego, NY between April 3-5, 1994 as evidenced by OCSD noting Caddy at residence in the evening of April 3 and receipts from the Oswego area during April 3-5. Sharon’s perjury charge for lying about their whereabouts on April 3-5 was DISMISSED. Sharon was acquitted for lying about where Gary was on April 3, 1994. Gary’s Caddy was searched in 1995. Twisted Fact-they drove to MA on April 3-5 with Heidi in the trunk.
-Real Fact- Richard had been dropped off at a job site in Liverpool. No evidence of Heidi was found in woods where 2 men were seen carrying a rolled object. Twisted Fact-Heidi may have been in the rolled rug from Richards van being seen at about 10:30am being brought into woods by Gary and Richard.
-Real Fact-none of the implements confiscated from Gary’s property had any human material on it. Twisted Fact- an army-type fold up shovel was found during a ground search and left where it lay AND a shovel from a retired detective’s van (witnessed by a reporter) had “skeletal muscle” on it.
-Real Fact-Bivens made 3 different police statements about the color, make and model of the van he supposedly saw the 2 men and one woman approaching the morning of April 3, 1994. Twisted Fact-Bivens was touted as an auto expert because he worked at an auto parts store.

-Real Fact-Bivens did not come forward with his observations until after the reward was announced. He lied on insurance questionnaires about an auto accident he was in in October 1993.
-Real Fact-The jail inmate, Baldasaro, received probation for VOP in which Florida Probation was requesting incarceration. Twisted Fact-the inmates only received compensation for room and travel for their testimony.
-Real Fact-Gary received time served for the charge in MA. Twisted Fact-Gary was arrested for drug trafficking in MA.
-Real Fact-The inmates would eavesdrop on Gary’s phone conversation while in jail and then ask him questions. Twisted Fact-Gary “confessed”.
-Real Fact-Heidi was on the employee schedule which was in customer view. Mrs. Duell and Mrs. Allen testified that Heidi “was scheduled to work” on April 3, 1994. Twisted Fact-At the last minute, Heidi volunteered to work April 3 because a co-worker could not.
-REAL FACT-Heidi was a CI for law enforcement, gave names and drug of choice of high schoolers to law enforcement Before she disappeared. Twisted Fact-Heidi informed on Gary and that’s “what she was going to screw him” about---drugs.
-Real Fact-there were 2 pre-trial Hearings- a Huntley and Sandoval. Twisted Fact-favorable prosecution evidence was suppressed.
-Real Fact-Mrs. Duell did not testify to EVERY transaction on the register tape . No other witnesses claimed the store was unattended between 6:35am when Brett supposedly left and 7:55am. Twisted Fact-The inmates testified that Gary told them he took Heidi from the store to near his house and Richard, only, brought her back to the store.
-Real Fact-Disinterested witness testifies to hearing and seeing nothing unusual about Richards van go by his property on Route 104 heading toward D&W and on the way back. Twisted Fact-Richards van was speeding and swerving as it went by.
-Real Fact-Richard purchased 2 packs of generic cigarettes. Paying with 4 $1 bills. No money was unaccounted for and law enforcement allowed the till to be deposited instead of sending for forensic testing. Twisted Fact-Register showing $1.38 (which would have been change from a $5) was the last register transaction.
-Real Fact-Mr. Swenszkowsi did not notice anyone in the van as he walked by the man that got out the drivers side. Twisted Fact-Someone other than Richard moved the van after Mr. Swenszkowski got a cigarette from the pack he just purchased and was preparing to leave.
-Real Fact-The tire mark in the D&W parking lot did not belong to Richards van. Twisted Fact-the mark was from Richards van after kidnapping Heidi.
-Real fact- The first register transaction was for 4:06am when the register was turned on. Twisted Fact-Heidi and Brett arrived at the D&W at 5:55am, turning the register on and changing the time for DST.
-Real Fact-Heidi's CI information was 'found' in evidence stored in Sheriff's garage in May 1995, right before Gary's trial began. Twisted Fact-Law enforcement denies to the public that Heidi was a CI.
-Real Fact-Dodd denies Heidi's CI status at a pre-trial Hearing in December 1994 (and via the media) even though Sergeant Lortie (of the CID unit) wrote a report on April 27, 1994 of personal knowledge that Heidi was "signed up" with parental consent. Twisted Fact-Heidi wasn't 'used' as a CI in a criminal case or criminal investigation.

Any other Real Facts?? How many uncorroborated theories does that make about the brothers being involved?

Well…it’s no wonder the DA doesn’t want to agree to another trial-He Will Lose!! Want to know the Truth for yourself, just read the DA's Statement of Facts and related documents and compare to the Defense's filings. It's all written in black and white.
                                                                                                                                March 15/18

From Oakes’ briefing for the Court of Appeals-

“Significantly, neither of these men received any benefit for their testimony (i.e
more favorable plea or sentence). There was no quid pro quo in exchange for their
testimony, so there was no incentive for them to falsely implicate Appellant. (SA
494, 524-26, 563, 573).”

“While Appellant disparages their testimony and characterizes them as nothing more than jail house
snitches, they received no consideration for their testimony. Further, in evaluating
their reliability, it's worth noting that neither man claimed that Appellant directly
admitted to kidnapping and killing Heidi Allen.”

Then, Oakes, where did the handwritten notes of Mr. Baldasaro (previously posted on this site on December 2, 2017) getting probation instead of jail time as Florida Probation department recommended come from?

So, Todd, the legal narrative is that “neither man claimed that Appellant directly
admitted to kidnapping and killing Heidi Allen.” Why are you publicly saying that Gary confessed?

I pray that both you law enforcement “agents”, along with Dodd, Wheeler, Yerdon, etc… are made to atone for breaking God’s Laws. “Thou shalt not bear false witness”.

April 26 is just around the corner.
                                                                                                                                March 15/18

Taxpayers paying for ....
…. who authorized the search, paid for the search ( in which, signed the expense sheet or voucher sheet, to continnue with arch. expenses, ) ?

What Oswego Schoolboard Members Singed off on this Deal ?

What Oswego Schoolboard Members Approved the “ power point presentation cost “ that the taxpayers paid for and where suppose to be overwhelm by Mr. Goey , in which the taxpayers could not vote against Mr. Goey !

Mr. Goey, start doing your job as education is concerned, and not do what Gov. C does ,and that is the “ Robinhood economics plan “ !

It all comes full circle !

This is a new thought, spend only what you have ( this also applies to the city of oswego, ny ) ! Why would anyone that makes $ 80,000.00 or more want to buy a house at in the city of oswego, at $ 65,000.00 with one or two parking spots, and next to rental property ?

And also, the mail delivery personal , bus drivers, police, fire personal and even the cashiers at was-mart wearing measuring devices. Must be “ on the lookout “ for the city ! Got to know, what is the grass cutting requirements, 3.25 ,3.38 , 3.5 ? and will the city start telling the people to STOP discharging grass, snow, leafs, in the street ? And will the DPW also STOP discharging snow, grass, and pile leafs outside the curb ?

And will the city of oswego, ny CLEAN the city owned sidewalks ? After all, one has to lead by example, and that has not been shown yet by city hall, dpw, and aldermen !

Keep your rulers ready !
                                                                                                                                March 15/18


                                                                                                                                March 15/18

Once I felt that way about Viet Nam War protesters. A lot of them were protesting just for the sake of protesting but in the end they helped get this country out of a war we should never have been in in the first place.







Today's Quote March 13/2018

Courage is the ladder on which all the other virtues mount.
Clare Boothe Luce

Robert Rolfe
Don't do business to this jerk. He can't get along in any company that he works with. He is just a carpet bagger and name dropper who never follows through with anything. He joins all these groups in the community to try to make himself important.
                                                                                                                                March 13/18

That fits a lot of people in OZ.

Golden Fish in Port Ontario
Speaking of Lenten fish fry's, what's the deal with the new building on the old Golden Fish site in Port Ontario? Is it going to be another restaurant? It's been in construction it seems for over a year. They sure had some good fish and all-you-can-eat bullhead back in the day.
                                                                                                                                March 13/18


asbestos survey
All Tony needs to do is to get a phony inspection for the Y. I’m not sure, which Pauldine it was, but one of them has an Asbestos Contracting license which allows him to conduct asbestos surveys. I happened to see their inspection done on a two story house with additional out buildings slated for demolition. It was a complete joke, no samples of roofing materials, TSI insulation, I believe there were no more than five samples taken on the whole site. When I took it to my estimator we both looked at each other and said “someone will go to jail with this survey.” Needless to say, we wanted nothing to do with it. The matter is involved with an ongoing investigation of another agency I can’t mention at this time. For additional information call the Asbestos Control Bureau to ensure that the rules are followed. NYSDOL Asbestos Control Bureau (315) 479-3215. – Abby Spestiss
                                                                                                                                March 13/18







Today's Quote March 12/2018




RE: Tracking haddock's route

Like a lot of people I grew up eating fried Haddock during lent. As an adult I frequently went out with friends for a fish sandwich or dinner. Just because you got "good fish" once or twice or three times did not mean it would be so the fourth or fifth time. A restaurant's reputation and livelihood could and did often hang on the quality or perceived quality of its fish dinner.


It is not always a question of freshness or cleanliness and just because the menu says fish dinner does not mean you are getting Haddock. In fact a lot of the time when it says you are getting Haddock  you are not getting Haddock. I would be willing to bet that more often than not the fish in your fish dinner is Pollock, Cod or some other white flesh fish. When your waitress or chef or grocer assures you are getting fresh Haddock remember he did not go out on a boat and catch it. It came in the back door in a box that was most likely frozen or semi frozen. Probably the most honest purveyors are the ones that advertise "Fish Dinner" in most cases it will be fish. If you put enough breading on it, fry the bejesus out of it and serve it with enough catsup few people will ever know or care about the difference.


                                                                                                                                March 12/18


What are we paying for?
Mayor and public when it comes to fireman running there business out of the fire department maybe you should look at your fire chief and his business affiliations. If one were to own or work with consulting firms that analyzes fire departments including how to make them bigger one should draw suspission. Making your fire department bigger only makes a business model look better. And yes the taxpayers are probably subsidizing his endeavors just like DeWitt did.
                                                                                                                                March 12/18

Gooeye said the publicity campaing promoting the school budget did not work as expected. Whai I want to know is why did the budget need a publicity campaign in the first place. Who’s idea was it. Who was in charge of it and how much did it cost the taxpayers?
                                                                                                                                March 12/18


I am curious to know if ANYONE out there has any information about hiring/firing practices currently at Oswego Health. I had heard some time ago that while A. Gilpen was there that there was quite a turnover of employees and disruptions of employment. It is now under the guidance of M. Harlovic and it appears that the same is true. Personally know of two employees with substantial years of service (one 32 and the other over 40) showing up for work and being escorted to the door and made to surrender their badges. There are more I am told just not that I am personally knowledgable of. What is going on there? There has to be a reader on this site that knows something that is willing to share. I also know of people with multitudes of experience trying to get hired there to no avail. Just curious......They were quoted in the paper as wanting to hire local....well, I dont see that to be true....

Super glad to see OCSD budget proposal got voted down. Sam Tripp's letter was a joke. Goey is a the idiot got to be super is beyond me...Blatantly made fun of a black woman while principal at Riley and now sits in the supers chair. And his father is the one who hired his wife as a teacher at RIley while he was principal there....This district is a joke. It is not and never has been about the kids so who are they trying to bullshit...

Code enforcement???? just a big effin joke. nuf said...Who's fat ass is going to get out and measure the length of someone's grass or how deep their snow is???? I really thought Billy was going to be good for this city but his true colors come out more and more everyday. Look at all the vacant properties in this city with nothing being done except, occasional fire set by either the landlords, disgrunted tenant or the fire department to cushion their pensions...thought that shit was going to stop as well....

                                                                                                                                March 12/18

Reply to Dodd n Oakes
Yes they think the public's stupid. All they do is attempt to dig up dirt on everyone else. To deny their own dirt they are trying to hide. Sickening. If Heidis case doesn't tell you how much the average citizens life matters. Nothing will. Any CI for OZ your better off dealing w a punishment than putting your life on the line for those who could care less your helping them. Heidis life obviously doesn't matter her CI Status obviously was lied about. Still is. Like she was nothing. She may not have mattered to them but she mattered to many just as Gary mattered but notice only they matter. That's why anyone who goes against them. They simply lie about also and tarnish anyone reputation by saying that persons crazy. Sick it really is very sickening for the public to support this case, conviction and pathetic stories they dish out about everyone who's tried to help these families. Oakes if anything happens to the one witness you exposed as a potential other CI 4 years ago. Which is not public info. You should be held fully responsible. You publically exposed another witness who was trying to give info as a CI. VERY DANGEROUS. BUT WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU CARE. NO ONE MATTERS BUT YOUR BUDDIES IN HIGHER POWER IN OZ.
                                                                                                                                March 12/18


Fair Warning
We have obtained data from persons of interest in Gary Thibodeau case. Emails, text messages, from individuals named in this cease. Some are warnings. Some are threats. One female stated people can talk, meaning and threatened those involved would make up things for the District Attorney such as claiming witnesses were drug dealers to instill fear if this case did not sieze. Others are text messages from a Milwaukee number, that stated I will find you. Another was a warning to cease again this case or end up like Heidi Allen. ;Many threats and mounds of data from the messages John 3:16 I know everyone. Everyone knows me. I know some of your back ground. Warnings of the District Attorney bringing these talks to trial to produce lies if they appear in court . Which will be destroyed with the data collected. Instilling fear in witnesses is ILLEGAL. Fair warning to all, the data has been collected, information secured and saved, names have been taken, phone numbers documented. Attempts to sell fake products to obtain a witnesses address. All of it has been dully noted.
                                                                                                                                March 12/18


Goewey and School Board confused why $60 Million project failed
I saw Mr.Tripp's response to Mr. Schradder's letter and unfortunately Tripp's letter did not accomplish a thing. First of all, Schradder did not have to attend the school board meetings to get the information he needed to make a sound argument for not spending $60 million. Going to those meetings just means you have listened to a biased school board that is pushing their agenda with misinformation. Even in Tripp's letter he quoted misinformation. You do not have to pay back a bond before selling a school building, the bond on that building can be transferred and combined with anther outstanding bond. And, Schradder is correct, we need to close a school as almost all of the schools (except the high school) are at 50% capacity. Tripp stated that the enrollment has stabilized, another untruth. The enrollment has dropped another 50 for 2018, but we still are over bloated with teachers and teacher assistants. I think Tripp's suggestion to Schradder was good; Schradder should run for the board and remove Tripp from his seat.
I think if you look at the information that has been posted on this site, it was very accurate from identifying the football field being in a flood zone, to pointing out the $4.4million put back in the budget to put the people back on the payroll that were removed the previous year. (Another lie from Goeway.... see Pal-Times from Jan 22 ,2018) This site also showed that most of the work on the buildings were cosmetic (as was shown in the pictures in that expensive taxpayer letter that showed a little peeling paint), and that the percentages on their chart were wrong. (someone needs a remedial math refresher)
I am confident that the information posted on site was a very big reason that the project failed. People who read this information passed on the truth and debunked all the lies and misinformation that was spread by the board and superintendent. I am glad we have a site to expose the lies from the school board, the common council, and the county legislature and allowing the truth to be given. This board will continue to press their agenda with more lies and we need to be diligent and continue to post the truth out here for all to read. That includes what is happening in the city and the county.
                                                                                                                                March 12/18

Trump considering adding impeachment lawyer to WH teamhttps:


                                                                                                                                March 12/18







Today's Quote March 10-11/2018

Everyone needs to be able to have their own space in which to be themselves.

Emily Osment

Tracking haddock's route, from ocean to the plates of Upstate New Yorkers

                                                                                                                                March 10-11/18

Re: Kingsford Park School
One of the reasons it’s such a mess down there is because the crossing guards on 5th and Varick and 5th and Niagara aren’t in sync. They should have handheld radios or phones with Voxr installed so they can communicate. When the guard at Niagara stops traffic for minutes at a time, the cars back up to Varick and then cars get stuck in the intersection because they think traffic is moving because cars are inching up. When it’s not cold or raining, it doesn’t hurt kids to stand at the corner for a minute or two to let the cars pass. But they stop traffic every time someone approaches the intersections.

Then you have the morons who block the crosswalks going into the school so that the kids getting dropped off have to walk between the curb and parked cars. That’s dangerous.

The only way they will alleviate the problem is to unlock a couple other doors in the morning and at dismissal.
                                                                                                                                March 10-11/18

Code Enforcement
Sue Deary get off your lazy ass and require a demolition permit as well as asbestos and lead study at the former YMCA building. You let touching Tony get away with this at the old dairy farm by the middle school (he shouldn't even be allowed to be that close to teenagers the child molester). Do your goddamn job, it's right down town in everyone's face that you are allowing illegal work. You dont think you are being watched? You don't think his young boy workers will talk? Some have already quit you idiot
                                                                                                                                March 10-11/18

Time to call them out
See the people on monday night ! Time to start asking questions, see payroll payouts, Mayor time sheets, dpw comm. time sheets, phone time, and who !
Let us ask , what time do these “ leaders “ come to work, where do they live, let us see, as taxpayers, there time sheets, where they live, there earnings, benefits, and of course, the mayor ! Is he , as I hear, going to albany on fridays on the taxpayers dime !

So Broadwell, gets to pay nothing in taxes, for twenty years, a person that owns the 1850 house, who has been paying out of his own pocket, gets NO HELP on the cumo kiss ass , give money program, Barlow went after him on a personal level, but pauline, broad well,k along with bell gets the pass ?

It would be nice if oswego, ny had a news paper that would call it the way it is !, but broadwell, barlow, kells,bell, goeye, schoolboard, have control of that ! At least the lion has backbone and people can talk, inform , vent, expose and look forward to reading in the morning before starting the day !

Also please ask, where does the fire chief, police chief, dpw chief, jason ruddick, water superintendent,, oswego financial officer, the bank the city of oswego, ny uses for investments, payroll ?

See you all of you on monday !
                                                                                                                                March 10-11/18

I am curious to know if ANYONE out there has any information about hiring/firing practices currently at Oswego Health. I had heard some time ago that while A. Gilpen was there that there was quite a turnover of employees and disruptions of employment. It is now under the guidance of M. Harlovic and it appears that the same is true. Personally know of two employees with substantial years of service (one 32 and the other over 40) showing up for work and being escorted to the door and made to surrender their badges. There are more I am told just not that I am personally knowledgable of. What is going on there? There has to be a reader on this site that knows something that is willing to share. I also know of people with multitudes of experience trying to get hired there to no avail. Just curious......They were quoted in the paper as wanting to hire local....well, I dont see that to be true....

Super glad to see OCSD budget proposal got voted down. Sam Tripp's letter was a joke. Goey is a the idiot got to be super is beyond me...Blatantly made fun of a black woman while principal at Riley and now sits in the supers chair. And his father is the one who hired his wife as a teacher at RIley while he was principal there....This district is a joke. It is not and never has been about the kids so who are they trying to bullshit...

Code enforcement???? just a big effin joke. nuf said...Who's fat ass is going to get out and measure the length of someone's grass or how deep their snow is???? I really thought Billy was going to be good for this city but his true colors come out more and more everyday. Look at all the vacant properties in this city with nothing being done except, occasional fire set by either the landlords, disgrunted tenant or the fire department to cushion their pensions...thought that shit was going to stop as well....

                                                                                                                                March 10-11/18

                                                                                                                                March 10-11/18

Dodd and Oakes
In December 1994 a hearing was held in Gary Thibodeau's case. The Defense put before the court news about Heidi possibly being a CI as per Sergeants Lorties report on April 27, 1994 in which he remembers going with VanPatten to Heidi's house with her parents present to "sign her up" to be a CI. Dodd specifically tells the court that he sometimes hear things for the first time from the news and would look into the "file" that Sgt. Lortie refers to. This prompts VanPattens, Montgomery's and Anderson reports to be penned on December 8 and 9, 1994. Refer to Oakes' filing for the hearing before judge King to see the transcript of the exchange before the court and the reports signed by all three deputies.

Why then, Boys, was there vehement public and legal position that Heidi was not a CI.

Why was the "file" not "found" until May 1994 (right before trial was to begin) in the Oswego County Sheriff's garage among items from the Heidi Allen Search Center? Sad state of affairs that such little urgency and care was placed on such sensitive information.

Also, why was there no mention from ANYONE testifying at trial that Heidi was In Fact "signed up" and gave names to VanPatten before the information was dropped in a public parking lot for an undetermined amount of time? The public may have never known about the "found" file if a hearing was not granted for the new evidence and withholding evidence.

You really think you can pull the wool over "We, the People" eyes and dupe us? Some people CAN follow sequence of events and make a logical conclusion. The Court of Law may not be saying....yet...that Gary is Innocent but WE KNOW.

WHY are you Boys covering up and standing behind a lousy arrest and false conviction? Have you no morals, sense of Justice or integrity to do what's correct? 20+ years, with the hearing testimony, and "We" are closer to finding the Truth and yet you want to squash that Truth. Why? Way to go....for questioning the police departments integrity, yet not take responsibility for your own complicity.

YOU are so wrong for what you have done/are doing to Heidi's family and the public. You shall be Judged by a higher power.

Another Easter fast approaching and still the unanswered question- Where's Heidi?


                                                                                                                                March 10-11/18

What are we paying for?
Mayor and public when it comes to fireman running there business out of the fire department maybe you should look at your fire chief and his business affiliations. If one were to own or work with consulting firms that analyzes fire departments including how to make them bigger one should draw suspission. Making your fire department bigger only makes a business model look better. And yes the taxpayers are probably subsidizing his endeavors just like DeWitt did.
                                                                                                                                March 10-11/18







Today's Quote March 9/2018

Authors want their names down in history; I want to keep the smoke coming out of the chimney.

Mickey Spillane

Vote, Vote, Vote this administration out!
The taxpayers have finally said enough. The ridiculous school "Improvements" is voted down! The number of people voting was very small. But, that could be a good thing though. If those who are fed up keep voting, we may be able to take Oswego back from the cronies! Next up is the "ridiculousness laws" that Barlow wants to instill upon the taxpayer. Hiring another code enforcer to measure grass and snow with a tape measure! Start billing people in a 24hr period, which the city itself can't do, time the ending of a snowfall??? People... this administration is spending like crazy, roads are deplorable, this $877,000 is a pothole fix, nothing more. Your taxes are going up for doing repairs on your home???? Yes, no tax first year, but a permanent tax from there forward! They want you to borrow money to do this, so that when your taxes are due, and you can't pay, they take your house and will add to Kells' empire. City looking at anything about your home and if they don't like it, put you on a list and if their request is not met, have Bell or Pauline go do the deed and when you don't pay up...take your deed! We must also show this administration that we are a people, not their servant. They are our servants! We need to vote this administration down! Your taxes are going up again. The city payroll has doubled, the 24 hr shifts isn't working, any snowfall as of late shuts down Bridge St, potholes just destroying our vehicles, Broadwell and Pauldine "given" the city with no taxation, can't keep up with their own "wanted" code laws, city trucks plowing out their businesses, and friends driveways, throwing salt all over the roads on 50* days, and the list goes on. This administration can't even keep the bridge lights on, and they think throwing up a few lights is progress...ridiculous! Make sure to show up at city hall on Monday to show that we won't take anymore of this crap from this administration!

                                                                                                                                        March 9/18

Attention Claudia Tenney!
Claudia, Psst. Did you find out yet if that 23 year old that made those phone threats to Utica College was also another Democrat? Inquiring mind want to know. Maybe you just haven't looked into it yet!
                                                                                                                                        March 9/18

Trump is the turducken of failure:
A screw up stuffed in a shitstorm, shoved into a clusterf***.

                                                                                                                                        March 9/18

Oswego To Build ?
Mayor, comm. , code office, engineering office, comm. delvep. office ( jason rudurick ), police chief, fire chief, in the office every morning at 6:00 A. M . SHARP ! No more one hour lunch breaks, time to get off of the lazy train and start earning the pay check or look for another job !
                                                                                                                                        March 9/18 

Oswego Public Safety Center
A water main break at St. Luke’s, means the public safety center will be without water for an undetermined amount of time on Friday March 9/2018 . Family Court and County Court will be closed but all the county offices in the building are open and all employees have to report. What are these people supposed to drink and wash with not to mention the toilets.
                                                                                                                                        March 9/18

14-year-old California boy arrested after allegedly impersonating sheriff’s deputy.
Don Dodd and Don Todd do the same thing in Oswego County and they get away with it.

                                                                                                                                        March 9/18


( March 2010)
City Landlord Meeting
I heard from people who were in attendance at last Weds Landlord meeting held in City Hall that Doug Waterbury suggested "A BIG FIRE" when it came time in the agenda to discuss solutions to the overburdening number of vacant rental houses in the City. Does Mr. Waterbury's solution to the overabundance of housing constitute a violation of a criminal law? During a recent Town of Oswego Planning Board meeting, Mr. Waterbury stated that he represented a group of concerned Businessmen in the City of Oswego who are opposed to the proposed student apartments on the Johnson Road. Is this kind of behavior acceptable to the Business men Doug represents?? OBTW- I see where several of the rental homes owned by Mr. Waterbury and his company were identified in Saturday's Palladium Times as being in arrears for taxes.
                                                                                                                                        March 9/18








Today's Quote March 8/2018

Nobody actually talks to anybody anymore. People in cubicles next to each other, they e-mail each other.
Willard Scott

Are you freaking kidding me Donald Trump has hired a campaign manager for 2020? I don't think he will even make it through these four years before everyone will have had enough and he will be impeached. Is this nut on Marijuana or what? If he was though I am sure that he would say that it was Medical Marijuana. Wait until his trade wars heat up and everything from Levi Jeans to new Vehicles skyrocket in price. Trumps own party can't even convince this "Balloon Head" not to put tariffs on aluminum and steel. He will listen to absolutely no one except his inner voice and in my own personal opinion that is quite dangerous. How many more will walk away from this man before he won't be able to find replacements as no one will want to deal with this NUT! Impeachment can't come soon enough as I am sure many of us have had enough of this "Bozo" and his Circus along with his side show! He will bankrupt this Country if we don't act soon! FOUR MORE YEARS, GOD FORBID!
                                                                                                                                        March 8/18

Oswego City School District woke up
Glad to see that the taxpayers woke up the $60,000,000 spending joke that the school board and admin tried to shove down our throats. In May there will be two seats up for the Oswego City School Board of Education, and it is now time to find a couple of qualified candidates to fill those seats and remove the fools that think their job is to spend money the district doesn't have. Start looking around for people that understand that education in the number one goal, not egos, but getting the graduation rate up to at least that of Fulton. It is embarrassing to know that Fulton has a much better graduation rate than Oswego does. I guess having the 5th highest paid teachers in the state doesn't equate to being able to educate kids better, just shows you how much greed they have. We need a new board, new superintendent, new teachers, new budget process, and the understanding that this district is here to educate, not to spend our tax dollars on frivolous items. Maybe this vote is a wake up call to those on the board that think they are there just to just spend our money foolishly. Time for major changes.
                                                                                                                                        March 8/18

Taxpayers Take a stand!
A public referendum for abolishing the Oswego ambulance is definitely needed. I'm sure it would have the same results as the school districts vote. Mayor one must ask himself, how I am going to support something that I dismantled. You can do what you personaly know is right or the public is going to do it for you.
                                                                                                                                        March 8/18



school vote

I’m so glad the ppl voted no. But you can bet Goewey will bring this back again until it does pass. We must continue to vote NO! It’s also time to get rid of this school board. I hope we get candidates to run who realize that with all the tax exempt properties, PILOT programs, ppl on welfare the remaining taxpayers cannot afford the plans Goewey wants. Also time to sell the Ed Center and close 1 of the schools. The well is running dry. Live within your budget.

                                                                                                                                        March 8/18



SUNY oswego

What a joke u are a.j. karma will catch up with you! Does bk know that you lie and bully people?who lies more a.j. or d.u.? D.u. should fess up to the affair going on in seneca!! A.j. knows all about affairs ask him how his turned out! Pretty sad that a.j. bullied p.l. into leaving housing. Doesn't do that to d.u. or snoop thru d.u.s office! But he says he treats everyone equally yet another lie!

                                                                                                                                        March 8/18







Today's Quote March 7/2018

It is easier to prevent bad habits than break them.
Benjamin Franklin

It is not Granite flooring, it is terrazzo flooring which is not that hard to fix , just that someone has to know how to fix ! I am sure that NO ONE on the Schoolboard has a clue !

So as any of the teachers going to vote for there jobs, instead of standing for what the students need and what the taxpayers can pay in taxes, and give the real truth about there greed, after all , look at the education numbers, and these teachers can go along with this lying to the taxpayers and the teacher's union does not stand up to what is needed ( vocational school ) ?

Teachers, time to grow a backbone!
                                                                                                                                        March 7/18

Fire Dept
It's too bad that the overpaid Oswego firemen don't have anything to do but work their other jobs while on the clock here and conspire to pad their overtime.
Most of these guys could NOT pass the physical test at a real fire dept.
Next time your chihuahua is stuck in a smoldering cardboard box don't count on these heroes.
                                                                                                                                        March 7/18



                                                                                                                                        March 7/18

Cannon Check!
Word around the city yard is that Kells has been trying to figure out how to sell the million dollar cannons by making it seem like the city's getting a cash windfall and then skim off the proceeds on the back end.
My question is: Are the cannons even still in town?
                                                                                                                                        March 7/18

Keeping it in the family at the DPW
Looks like Kells is keeping his girl happy by giving her brother a job. Does he live within the city limits? Guess that doesn't matter for some. Wonder how long it will be before he gets a title and a truck? How come there is never an ad posted for employment opportunities but yet there are so many new hires at the DPW? How many of Kells's hires live with in the city? Maybe the Mayor should start here and not worry so much about companies that are not even in the city.
                                                                                                                                        March 7/18

Mayor On Grass Cutting Heights
So I guess that there will be a course and requirement on how to read and measure a device ( will the dpw have to go by the same rules ) ? And will it be in inches, 10 ths , 12ths or metric ?

And will the Mayor of Oswego , tell the dpw, and the taxpayers , not to discharge grass, snow, put leafs in road, garbage , to name a few ! And the dpw to clear all city owned side walks and CITY PARKS SIDEWALKS !

And that rental office between erie and albany ( west side ) stop Blocking the side walk with driveway plowing ( must be related to kells, bell, barlow, rudurick, pauline, code enforcement! And 25 mph cop ( on west 5th street ) which if i had to guess, wears a white robe ( like mini me ) and bows to the almighty, educational B . S . I am better that you speech ! There are more students and kids going to oak hill park, but yet some people drive 30 or plus, but yet a street wider that east 8th street gets, and the spending goes on and has MORE students walking on that street, but west 5th street gets this holy grail blessing !
                                                                                                                                        March 7/18

What this city has not had lately is a good old referendum vote. The city should not be in the ambulance business, why should I pay the lifetime of heritage bennifts the fireman get. I hope thay get another ambulance then the city can lease them to Menter for a dollar year and it cost us nothing. There was a town up north ,do not remember exactly what one but even thay were smart enough to let Menter provide them a free service. My God mayor and council wake up.
                                                                                                                                        March 7/18

                                                                                                                                        March 7/18







Today's Quote March 6/2018

Collecting more taxes than is absolutely necessary is legalized robbery.
Calvin Coolidge


Vote No!
Please vote no on the school spending tomorrow. The power to tax is the power to destroy and the taxes are destroying the middle class. If Goewey gets this (and I’m sure he will) then what’s next? New Buses? Raises for the teachers and staff, how about laptop computers for every kid pre K to 12? Welcome to Oswego where the taxes never end. Enough is enough. VOTE NO!!!!!!!!!!
                                                                                                                                        March 6/18


Congresswoman Claudia Tenney Is Closely Monitoring Utica College Lockdown For Photo Ops
                                                                                                                                        March 6/18

Kingsford park traffic problems
Thursday the 8th @ 7:30 , 3rd floor city hall for anyone in the area who would like to voice your opinion on what should be done to reduce the congestion for drop off ,pickups as well as for anyone who wants to try to save a child before they are run over and killed by crazy drivers . Thank you for taking the time to read this
                                                                                                                                        March 6/18

Dancing a jig
They can dance now, then or even after Gary's passing. They think it ends. So sadly mistaken. Gary's case will be handed over to those who will keep their oath. It will go on for years. Sheriff's aren't the only law in OZ, it's just beginning. When the state grabs hold you little sheriff's better be afraid. There will be no love loss. None, it does not end with Gary's passing. Heidis still missing and there will be a proper investigation once the case is given to a proper department. Sorry to turn your music off there suspects. LOL a few former cops are helping direct Gary's case to where it needs to go. A few officers with INTEGRITY that is.
                                                                                                                                        March 6/18

Phantom Shopper????
I wonder which citizen of good ol OZ is Donald Dodds phantom shopper. Was it you? Donald Dodd that's pretty damn low. Sharon Raposa had receipts that blew your bull shit theory of her and Gary fleeing to MASSACHUSETTS out of the water. You claimed there's a phantom shopper on the loose so who was this mysterious phantom shopper Dodd? Sick and disgusting. So tell us Greg Oakes who was Dodds phantom shopper? Dodd your career was hanging from a thread. In order to save yourself you used the Heidi Allen case to save your career. Disgusting excuse for a DA let alone a human being. Not an ounce of morals exists in you. Phantom shopper that has to be the most ridiculous excuse you gave during your rein in any case and you should be in prison for constant misconduct. Oakes supports you, dumb and dumber in OZ, you have to ask yourself why normal citizens call it the land of OZ, try it's the demented twilight zone. Oakes own neighbors are disgusted with him. Gary's book is making it's rounds. Will the phantom shopper please stand up.
                                                                                                                                        March 6/18


Time to impeach Trump
The time has come to start the process to impeach Donald J Trump. This man is totally unfit to fill the roll that Russian Hackers have elected him to do. Anyone who leads this great country of ours and allows a foreign government to decide who our President is and does NOT do a dam thing about it should NOT be leading this Country. I don't care how loyal a Republican you may be but this man needs to be impeached ASAP before he allows any more Country's to walk all over us. He doesn't know anything about politics and he must be excused of his duties at once. I'll admit that I did vote for him last November as I thought after Obama that it couldn't get any worse well it did and I am certain that without Russian interference that he would have never won the election. He makes Obama and even so called "Crooked Hillary" look like Saints! We as a Country have been embarrassed enough and it's time to say good riddance to this man once and for all.
                                                                                                                                        March 6/18


Reply to Death of Common sense
What I find hard to believe is Officer Curtis and Kris Duell matched his watch to the store wall clock as they stated. Kris own family members said in 94 time stood still for Heidi. Why believe a word from Kris Duell, she knew Heidi was a CI, she never once mentioned it at all during Gary's trial or the year leading to it. Who knows what time it really was. Seems odd her file was tampered with. Seems odd she took it upon herself to send the searchers in the direction to search. Seems she played a pretty active role in covering things up. I'd love to see her take a lie detector test. I do think the cash register time was out of wack. Think about it. If you can't figure out the timeline you can't solve the crime. Just so happens they took her on Easter, time leaps ahead. Funny how it all lined up to a day everyone's times would be off. Kris Duell needs a lie detector test. Her husband took one but his is mia as well. Kris is in deeper than anyone's paying attention to. Funny how a cop let anyone including her in to the crime scene. The only 2 who confirmed times were here n Curtis. Curtis needs a lie detector test as well. But then again if they failed them. Ocsd would call them reliable. Think about who was with her Easter morning Good old Brett. Did he mess w her alarm clock prior to waking Easter morning fishing times? Who knows but Brett knew he's got a shit load to hide. That's why he wanted an attorney.
                                                                                                                                        March 6/18


The narcissistic Mayor is not only a boy, he's also about to finally come out of the closet. Tony Pauldine is still a child molester.
Local bank execs about to be entrauled in litigation from sexual abuse.
Cockacoli as city attorney is coming out if the closet too.
What has this town come to? Bunch of deviant cucks
                                                                                                                                        March 6/18

Tonya Michele Priest
Someone by the name Tonya Michele Priest alleged in Facebook posts that the State Police breached confidentiality and violated public trust by speaking to her about a certain case.

The comments have been saved and she will be issued a subpoena as she's going to have to testify as to who these alleged officers are. Anyone who saw posts written by this person, please screenshot. Tuesday it will be posted as to where to forward them.
                                                                                                                                        March 6/18

Sidewalk Snow Removal New Plan
Glad to see the sidewalk policy is working so well. 149 W Bridge St was not shoveled and is owned by the CITY OF OSWEGO. Some of the other offenders were, McDonalds at the fork, Fast Track, Rite -Aide, BOPE (ELKS). Hey Barlow, good luck with your snow removal might want to check 155 W 5th St to see if your head of Code Enforcement took care of the sidewalk of his don't need to check, he didn't. Way to set an example.
Seem you might want to concentrate on :
the landlords as they are the biggest offenders- the business that have side walks as they seem to think that they are exempt- and city owned properties as they are not taken care of either.
                                                                                                                                        March 6/18

Every taxpayer should vote NO, this dollar amount is rediculous !!!!!!!! If they need a ASTRO TURF FIELD, SUNY OSWEGO has a beautiful site on top of the hill , MAYBE DEBRA STANLEY would let them use that, i have yet to see OSWEGO"S MARCHING BAND , in the ROSE BOWL parade !!!!!!! If the band parents WANT this let them RAISE THE MONEY LIKE THE SPORTS teams did. Then these teachers want A RAISE ,go to WEST VIRGINIA where they make $45,000 a year not $ 100,000 !!!!!!!!! YOU CANT get a job in THIS DISTRICT UNLESS YOU ARE RELATED TO someone. THIS city is getting SMALLER and they don"t need any more waste of money,PEOPLE ON DSS don"t PAY TAXES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                                                                                                        March 6/18

So we didn’t need lay off’s?
So the the Oswego fire chief is trying to buy a new ambulances and hire ten more employees . Mayor you do realize that this only makes your fire chief look like a hero to all his fire buddies and you a big zero. You will get hippocrate of the year award. You are forcing the burden on the tax payers of supporting a larger fire department that can be done by Menter at no cost to the city.
                                                                                                                                        March 6/18








Today's Quote March 5/2018

The safe way to double your money is to fold it over once and put it in your pocket.
Kin Hubbard

Dear Oswego Lion
I hope the taxpayers will come out to vote against an expensive quickly cobbled and secretive project. The NYSUT gang will be out as usual-their kids, grandmas from nursing homes (actual event) and all the teachers and relatives. Yes the schools have repair problems. The photos they show are of a janitors closet sink area in the high school and in another three steps children have never tread on and a classroom in one of the two other schools that needs cosmetic repairs. What should be shown is the scuffed and scratched cheap NEW floor tiles used in the last remodeling and uninsulated walls that are cold to the touch. Then there are the expensive inlaid granite floors at the high school. Do you know about the two teachers who are some of the highest paid in the state?
C. Celeste at $110.7 K
C. Carroll at $ 108.9 K

There are others that deserve the pay they get and others that don’t.

Then there are the administrators. Why are there so many and what do they do? Not much.
Mini-Me created jobs for them as most likely promised. All need a state investigation. First they cried for money for athletes from the state. Now there is money for a stadium and marching band field?? Academics have been brushed aside. Where are high tech programs, professional trade school for plumbing, electrical, welding and building trades?? BOCES doesn’t cut it. Kids drop through the cracks in Oswego because they are ignored. There are a number of good kids that no one helps. Poverty and home life are not taken into consideration.

Lets hope the budget doesn’t pass. Also employees now pay LESS for health insurance. On of the big costs for the district is health insurance. Most people have to pay for part of their insurance.
NYSUT assures that they hardly pay anything.
Fly On The Wall
                                                                                                                                        March 5/18

Oswego City School Election March 6th 2018; $60,000,000 Proposition
On March 6th there will be an election to decide if you want to spend $60,000,000 to do $35,000,000 worth of cosmetic repairs to 7 schools and to build a $25,000,000 turf field for the marching band. If this is passed, you can plan on a 12-15% increase in your school tax bill next year (2018-2019). The choice is yours, a $60,000,000 BS spending plan to sooth the Egos of the school board and Goewy, or vote no and tell them revise their plan to something that is reasonable and doesn't increase our taxes.....Last chance to stop this stupid spending plan.
Vote no!
For more details, go back through the postings on this site for the facts and the truth.
                                                                                                                                        March 5/18






Today's Quote March 3/2018

Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not.
Dr. Seuss

Re: It is time
Hey you mental midget - I am amazed that you can use a pc. This is the year 2018, the elections are over with, and Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are private citizens. People are focusing on the 2018-midterm elections, and then it will be 2020 presidential elections at which time Trump will be removed from office providing he is not impeached before that. Trump said; “drain the swamp”, but Trump needs to call a plumber because the toilets are overflowing in the White House. Trump and people like you are using too much MAGA bs. Oh! Check out the link below, it’s “Trump Troll” – Brad Pascale.

                                                                                                                                        March 3/18

Comrades for Trump
Yes, we all owe praise to President Trump for exposing the many thieves, traitors, and liars (even the little white ones). It was astonishing, no it was tremendous, what an elaborate plan Trump but into action. Who could of imagined the he would become president and then round up all these reprobates, put them in his cabinet, Manaford, Flynn, and countless others, then have them arrested. Brilliant, no it was tremendous, can’t say that enough. However, evil forces are developing a conspiracy theory whereas Donald Trump is really still a democrat, as he was in the past, to destroy the republican party. Their theory is based on the fact that the republican party could have survived under Hillary, even gotten stronger, in four years. Democrats have won six GOP seats in 2017 in the house and senate and 26 out of 35 at the state and local level. These seats have been strongholds for the republican party for decades. VERY SAD!!!, did I use enough exclamation points? So I call out to all my brother and sister Trump supporters to take up arms against a sea of trouble and oppose the bleeding heart liberals, tolerant, non- bigoted, MAGA (whatever that means) forces ruining our great country. I believe that when we get the check from Mexico to build the wall, it’s in the mail, we should allocate some of that money into buying twitter so no one can attack our hero. Я заинтересован в дальнейшем сотрудничестве.– Vladimir Putin
                                                                                                                                        March 3/18

Seek treatment
Ed, its quite obvious that you are suffering from a severe case of Trump Derangement Syndrome. Seek treatment immediately.
                                                                                                                                        March 3/18

I have this website is my therapy.

Re: It is time.
Hey check this out MAGA. Trump kicking his own daughter and son-in-law out of the White House.

                                                                                                                                        March 3/18

Mayor, may I?
Barlow is obsessed with being in the limelight. His narcissism is at full force! Three times in the last few days he has spewed the rhetoric and is setting up his comerades by going after the taxpayer. First, the bull crap of being fined within a 24hr period for snow, grass height. Hiring a code enforcer to go out and measure snow, grass. I'm guessing they will also be timing the end of a snowfall? Just stupid immature thought trying again to rape the taxpayer. Then, we will not charge tax in the completion of your upkeep, but after that...yea, a permanent tax!!! Now, we hear that he wants to be able to hire privately to fix "blighted" properties. This is setting up Bell, who is in the business and in the clique! The clique being Barlow, Kells, Bell, Broadwell, and yes, the pimple popper. Dumping salt the other day all over the city...Bell owns the car washes, he is on the board of Ed for a reason as well. And, Barlow came out a couple of weeks ago praising "his" accomplishments, and talked about the forks of the road, which is now the worst roadway in Oswego, never did they touch that west lane, but patting himself on the back??? If I remember correctly, he stated the cost was $1.5 million? But, I may be off, don't think I am. Now boasting about spending just over $800,000, for repairs throughout the city? Apparently, these repairs will be minimal at best...a shovel of asphalt, here, and here... And, now a video of "his" accomplishments??? City itself can't abide by his thoughts. There has been a felled tree in East Park for over a week, and trash can in tunnel hasn't been emptied. Trucks sitting on corners at 1am, nothing getting done, roads not plowed, side streets blocked this AM. No plows!!! The city is being given away, not charging any business any tax!!! But, he will go after the taxpayer! More employees, doing not much, people pissed off at Kells, the taxpayer pays by getting stuck on Bridge St. (F ing BullSh*t!), trees getting cut down in front of Kells apt building while tree is felled in East Park! The taxpayer is hurting, and the thought is to screw us! Properties will be had from those not being able to pay, and who do you think that will benefit? Everything is being set up to get rich quick, and by screwing the taxpayer.
                                                                                                                                        March 3/18

RE:It Is Time
Man you must be either crazy or just plain stupid. If you think trump is doing the country any good as he speaks. You are sadly mistaken. MAGA is a laugh on its own right. The only thing trump and his fool bunch are making great again are his or their bank accounts. Keep thinking trump is doing this for the good of the USA. That is BS all on its own. Trump is doing this all for himself and his rich friends which you are not one of them. Trump is just NUTS
                                                                                                                                        March 3/18

Political nonsense
Oswego Mayor William Barlow Jr announced Feb 22 the launch of the Resident Recruitment Initiative. This is quoted from the Oswego Shopper newspaper. How can you put your name on this when you let your fire chief change the requirement to be a City fireman from a Oswego county resident to just anywhere in the state. Why because your fire chief lives nowhere near hear and he did the same at his previous fire department job. You need to start acting like a mayor and not a kid that does whatever he is told.
                                                                                                                                        March 3/18

RE:It Is Time
Yo! Check this out. The White House has imploded under Trumps stupidity.


                                                                                                                                        March 3/18







Today's Quote March 2/2018

Self-defence is Nature's eldest law.

 John Dryden



It Is Time

Red Letter guy, Your delusion is comical. Your democratic diaper is showing. I suppose the better choice for you liberal lefties would've been Hillary. When the curtain falls on her and Obama you and your ilk will thank Trump for exposing these thiefs and traitors. MAGA even for sh*tstains like you

                                                                                                                                        March 2/18


I am not a Democrat and not a liberal. Those are labels used by Trump and his, red necked, pussy-grabbing morons to describe anyone that does not subscribe to their twisted sense of patriotism and convenient morality.  I was in favor of stricter Federal firearms control until your hero was elected. Now I think we, the majority, will need every gun and bullet we can get our hands on to defend ourselves from Trump, his fascists followers and his Russian allies.

Is there anyone down range?

Lock & Load



Title 5, Section 3331 of the United States Code reads:
“I, ……………, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”



United States Constitution

Article Two

Section 4

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

The Constitution also allows for involuntary removal from office. The President, Vice-President, Cabinet Secretaries, and other executive officers, as well as judges, may be impeached by the House of Representatives and tried in the Senate.

Any official convicted by impeachment is immediately removed from office. The Senate may also choose to bar the removed official from holding any federal office in the future.[35] No other punishments may be inflicted pursuant to the impeachment proceeding, but the convicted party remains liable to trial and punishment in the courts for civil and criminal charges.[36]






Wensdays Palladium Times has a ad for the Oswego City fireman civil service test and the only  residency requirement is that you have to be a resident of New York

State. The mayor is promoting an agenda of work here live here but has made this requirement less restrictive. There are not many municipalities that do not have a residency clause of some kind. Once again giving your department heads the ability to to do whatever thay want, and when it is negative falls on you as a lack of leadership and oversight. You should do what is best for the community.  Menter ambulance came to Oswego, owns a building and has employees that live in the city and county, and better yet pays taxes yet you still have a part time ambulance that only makes it harder for the private company to stay alive. This is about your fire chief having to have control over everything, including the EMS of Oswego, that is why thay need the ambulance so desperately. The public spoke out by not supporting the ambulance or cuts to the fire department unless you were a firemans

 relative. Mayor maybe you should  start to think of the residents instead of people's personal agendas.

                                                                                                                                         March 2/18




April Fool's Day 2018 cancelled because of clash with Easter


Happy (early)  AFDay is March 1, 2018...not April 1, 2018

                                                                                                                                         March 2/18


 I missed that. Look at it this way. Every day with Trump in the White House is April Fools Day.



Gary Thibedaux

Now that Gary is close to the end of his life,  I wonder if the D.A.  and all the others involved will be dancing a jig at his funeral.  This has got to be one of the darkest moments in Oswego’s history.  Meanwhile, the 3 who are deeply involved in Heidi’s disappearance are walking around free.   I hope all of them, frm Oakes on down wind up in the hell hole they made for Gary. 

                                                                                                                                        March 2/18







Today's Quote March 1/2018

I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep; I am afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion. Alexander the Great
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I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep; I am afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion.
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I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep; I am afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion.
Alexander III of Macedon



It Is Time

For Someone To Take The Role Of Leadership

From The White House

FAKE president who was elected by a minority of the voters refuses to enforce sanctions against his Russian friends and business partners. He refuses to recognize a clear and present danger to our country and our constitution.

A top national security official told lawmakers on Tuesday he had not been directed by Donald Trump to disrupt Russian efforts to meddle in US elections, and that Vladimir Putin had come to the conclusion there was “little price to pay” for such actions.

We are looking at another election with the Russians poised to do whatever they can to subvert our democratic process. The ASSHOLE which some people call president not only refuses to defend our country but he refuses to allow our security agencies to act on our behalf.

Just like the
FAKE president did, John Katko and Claudia Tenney took an oath to defend this country against all enemies foreign and domestic. It is time to stop sucking Trumps ass and act.



                                                                                                       March 1/18


Another Day Another Scandal
Trump campaign chief lends name to penny stock tied to felon
The political strategist and online guru who was named President Donald Trump's 2020 campaign manager Tuesday has a close financial relationship with a penny-stock firm with a questionable history that includes longstanding ties to a convicted fraudster, according to an Associated Press investigation.

                                                                                                                                       March 1/18







Today's Quote February 28/2018

Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself.
George Bernard Shaw

Re: Oswego ( mayor ) Wants More People Living in The City Of Of Oswego?
Then maybe he should start with his DPW commissioner.
                                                                                                                        February 28/18

Michael Backus
Well it seems Michael Backus is in line to get a job at Syracuse University, so he'll be an absentee county clerk drawing a hefty salary for a no-show job.

I wonder if there will be a dolly for him to hook up with at his new job?????? or will CB follow him there??????
                                                                                                                        February 28/18

Re Republican Handbook
Nelson and Seager won’t be basing their decisions on the quality of blowjob they get from the parents of abused and neglected children.
                                                                                                                        February 28/18

Here he is! Trumps and the GOP's BS man. Brad Parscale.
                                                                                                                        February 28/18


You knew damn well he was a snake before you voted him in.











Today's Quote February 27/2018

Come live with me and be my love, And we will all the pleasures prove,

That valleys, groves, hills, and fields, Woods, or steepy mountain yields.
Christopher Marlowe

From the Oswego County Republican Committee Handbook
Here's how the local yokel Republicans are getting rid of Allison Nelson. She's the lawyer for DSS and they don't like the job she's doing. They want to appoint Graham Seiter, but to do that they have to get Allison out of the way.

They threw her a bone. Let her run for family court judge because if she were to win (unlikely), and because she works as the DSS lawyer and would have a conflict, she'd have to be in Onondaga County for a few years. Oswego County would be short a family court judge, but they figured they'd at least be rid of her. To hell with county residents who use the family court system. They don't care about the people. It's all about them and what fits their agenda.

Allison is arrogant and pompous and not well liked. She might not get the Republican Committee endorsement because Benedetto is liked.

Of course a three way race will most likely swing to Seager.

Wait and watch........ Setter will be the new DSS lawyer now matter what happens to Nelson.
                                                                                                                        February 27/18

Trump the Coward
I could not believe that "FLAMING A$$HOLE DONALD TRUMP", had the balls to say that if he were at that Florida School Shoot out, he would have run into that building and protected those children. He would have faced down that
AR-15 unarmed. BULLSHIT!
This coward got out of going to Viet Nam because he had heel bone spurs, and also had 3 deferments because he was in school, and he is going to face down an AR-15 unarmed. I saw him run in the opposite direction from a guy that tried to get on stage at one of his rallies. He couldn't face down an angry, unarmed man at a rally, but he would have gone into that building, unarmed, where those kids were being shot, and faced down a hale of bullets.
Please, someone tell this lying bastard, to shut the F@%K UP! Own it DONNY, you were a coward in 1967 and you are still a coward!
                                                                                                                        February 27/18

Do not forget he eats takeout because he is afraid someone is going to poison him and there is also the fear of sharks the fear of Robert Muller, the IRS and the FBI etc. etc.etc.









Today's Quote February 26/2018

I put my heart and my soul into my work, and have lost my mind in the process.

Vincent Van Gogh

Attention Claudia Tenney!
Claudia Tenney stated how most mass murderer's are Democrats well Claudia I heard through the grape vine that the Sheriff who ran and hid instead of entering the School in an attempt to protect the children is a REPUBLICAN! As for your leader Trump wanting to ban weapons such as AR15'S, AK47'S to anyone under twenty one years of age.....I have a question as how old was the Las Vegas guy that shot all those people at that Country Concert? Wasn't he 64 years old? Maybe we should stop selling these weapons to anyone under age 65. I'll bet your main concern was what his political party affiliation was. Why do we need these weapons AR15'S AK47'S outside of military use anyways, could it be because you GOP'S will lose your NRA'S campaign funding? Money should NEVER supersede a human life NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                                                                                        February 26/18

Oswego ( mayor ) Wants More People Living in The City Of Of Oswego?
Why not ask, where did you buy your cars and trucks ?
Ask the school dict. teachers, where did you buy your cars and trucks ? Super of schools, where did you buy your car or truck ?
Firemen, where did you buy, and spouses, buy your car or truck ?
Policemen, where did you buy your car or truck ?

Point is , where is the reinvestment factor, ( house buyers wanting to be landlords ) buy houses that may have one car parking , but yet want to get into there properties , as many people as possible!

And of course, the bad streets, tattoo houses, ( right on main street , cannot wait to hear what great business plan , this person had in mind ) !
Wait until the newbees, start doing their research on the school dict, city mayor, comm. of the dpw and that nice paycheck that the super of the oswego city school district draws each year ( $ 250,000.00 per year, plus benefits for the REST OF HIS LIFE , PLUS THE SPOUSE ? ) !

And why not ask, where do the paychecks of the police, fire, teachers, super of schools, teachers, and of course, others go ? Does it go into the local banks, or out of town banks and investors ?
                                                                                                                        February 26/18


Unfortunately Oz only has two car dealers left. One is notorious for its unwillingness to deal and the other infamous for the dishonesty of its born again service manager. In Oz, honest businesses are driven away while those remaining drive the customers away.







Today's Quote February 25/2018

Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma - which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition.
Steve Jobs

Propaganda Letter From the Oswego City School District
Well, Goewey is still trying to sell his $60,000,000 to $70,000,000 school project and it still doesn't make sense. He is blowing smoke up your ass, as 90% of this project is not needed. There have been numerous letters on this site about this, and now, the district is spending more money on mailing brochures to everybody in the district. This is just another expenditure by this district that is an example of their "free spending of our tax dollars". Let see, 10,000 brochures with a bulk mailing rate of $0.30 per is $3,000 and the printer rate of another $3,000, so, a mere $6,000 spent to convince you to spend $60,000,000 on an un-needed school project.
The district is trying to also hedge its bets by having the vote on March 6th, when many people are down south for the winter, and people don't want to go out in freezing weather to vote. They also moved a poll site from St Paul's to the old Ed Center (another white elephant the School Board screwed the taxpayers on, and will sell it eventually for a huge loss) so people will be confused where to vote. They are hopping for a very low turn out to try to sell this project. There will be another election for the school board in May, so why wasn't the vote held off for that date when the weather is good and people are back from the south? You got it, low turn out. ( what is this election costing you, when it could have been done in one vote in May?...Best guess another $5,000 to $7,000 of un-needed expense.. combining the election with May would have saved that much.. lets see,$6,000 brochures, $7,000 for election expense that could have been combined... another waste of $13,000!!!
They have said it will only be$38 extra per year, not counting the increase you took this year. This year the district took money from reserve (your money) to balance the budget. That was a mere $4,400,000 and they didn't tell you they added back most of the people they got rid of last year. They are not telling you that next (2018-2019) you are going to get another tax increase due to falling revenues ($350,000 reduction in POILT) and more reductions in enrollment. There is so much they are not letting you know about next, and with that said, plan on a 10-12 % increase due to more ridiculous benefits for the teachers, and higher wages coming up in their contract.
Anyway, you have all hear form those who are not in favor of this project with supporting facts, and in a few weeks it will be up to you, the OCSD taxpayers if you want to keep paying for a school district with a graduation rate of 72% (Fulton's rate is 82%) It will be up to you if you want a district that is bloated with too many teachers making much to much money and getting no improved educational results from them. Soon there may be a law passed to have armed gaurds at the schoo (another cost) and armed teachers who will get a bonus for packing. March 6th is the date you will get to either, pay through the nose by passing this joke, or vote this down and have a review of what the schools really needs in 2019, and it will be a fraction of what is being proposed. Your district, your money, and don't get caught up in the old bullshit that it is for the kids, be cause it is not. It's egos and teacher paychecks!
                                                                                                                        February 25/18


Little Willie
Last year he got the city charter changed so he could hire a Scriba resident to the DPW job. Now he claims he wants to get people who work here to live here. I want some one to pay me the kind of bribes you are getting Willie Barlow.
                                                                                                                        February 25/18


Re: Biker Babe
                                                                                                                        February 25/18

OCSD Brochure
Just looked at the brochure the OCSD mailed to me today. I find it hard to believe, based on the pictures that were in the mailing , that the repairs need to be made are any more than cosmetic. Get the janitors and the maintenance people out with a paint scraper, a bucket of paint and a brush, and take care of it. $43,000,000 for paint....please. What the hell do these people do during the summer when there is nobody at the school buildings? Sleep?
Also, the pie chart they provide doesn't make mathematical sense. Retiring debt is not revenue, and the percentage, no matter how you calculate it, will only make up 12% not 26%.It is clear that the people pushing the numbers are using percentages to confuse the people reading this and these people would never make in a real business. Don't they teach math at the schools? If so, maybe
that should have the people doing the budgets go back for a refresher coarse.
This whole thing is not justified!
                                                                                                                        February 25/18

Mr. Mayor
Are you going to make bridge street, from ( the forks ) west to east look nice and people do not have to see the tattoo houses as what oswego is famous for ?
And why should people want to live in the city , if there pay check is over $ 100,000.00 per year ?
And maybe, these people might have two or three vehicles, so they might want to have a driveway to park them in ! After all, do you think that they want to worry about off street parking ?
Mr. Mayor, if you want such a great city, have the police, firemen, dpw workers ( including the comm. of the dpw ) live in the city !
And Mr. Mayor, while you are on the taxpayers to make their homes look great, why not have the dpw not discharge their cut grasses into the street ?
And while you are at it, tell the people not to discharge grass, snow, leafs, garbage bags, and snow cutting jocks do not block the frigging side walks ! Time to do enforcing on both sides of this game !
                                                                                                                        February 25/18

RE: Oswego encouraging people to work and live in the City

I just one question on this.

With the taxes so HIGH how will the Mayor get anyone to move to Oswego to work? Maybe it might work if they can and will LOWER the water/sewer taxes to a normal level.

Impossible to get the people to move to Oswego with the taxes so out of control as they are now.
                                                                                                                        February 25/18

Police are required to live within something like a fifty mile radius of city hall.
Firemen are not required to live in the city but I believe they are required to live within the county.
However you are dealing Heroes and everyone knows the rules do not apply to them.
                                                                                                                        February 25/18







Today's Quote February 24/2018

The world of reality has its limits; the world of imagination is boundless.
Jean-Jacques Rousseau




Special counsel Mueller files new charges in Manafort, Gates case

                                                                                                                        February 24/18



Kirsten Gillibrand – photoshop = a short fat old woman that no one will vote for.

                                                                                                                        February 24/18

Claudia Tenney 's Comment
Are you freaking kidding me a women in this to position making a comment like this is absolutely absurd. "Most mass murders are Democrats" Really Claudia? Are we now going to start identifying criminals by their political party affiliation? I can see it now, John Q. Public was arrested today for statutory rape John was a registered independent but formally a republican prior to his changing of political parties. This is the problem with this Country today "political parties" It has come to the point where we do not look at people for who they are but for what their political party is. This is why this country is so screwed up right now as people are just so party affiliated that if a mass murderer was running as a Republican and his opponent was one of the most honest and fairest people you ever met that Republican would vote for the mass murderer just because it was their party. The same goes for a Democrat. It's bad enough that this is how the majority of our society operates and to think now every time that someone commits a crime we are going to state that they are Democrats, Republicans, Liberals or Conservatives. Come on Claudia get real, we do NOT need to say what party a criminal is registered. This is totally insane! Wake up America! When we go to the polls on election day we should be voting for the most qualified candidate and not the political party they represent and I know that we would be much better off. Recent history should tell us something.
                                                                                                                        February 24/18

Do Any Of You Understand Water Flood In A Flood Zone ( high school ) ?
Please tell me what would be the numbers in flood zone ?

Please tell me what the maintenance dept. for the oswego school district might have down size ? down the skills to perform these construction tasks ? , or is this another power grab ?

And please tell me how a teacher, super of schools, and board of education bobble heads can do math ( construction math and what is needed , education , tech education, basic english , and others ) ! Why are we looking at a project over $ 70,000.000. 00 and the tax payers are not even told about the on going maintenance on these storage tanks, and the upkeep on the football/ soccer ,band fields ? Did the school board tell you about the stockpile of rubber filler, tractor brush , cost of tractors and personal and fuel and the education of field repair These people have to go and get educated to fix this stuff !

And of course, the taxpayers pay for this education so that they know how to upkeep ! But this is not TOLD by the super ,nor the board of education !

How come the board and mini me have not given the real cost of repairs ?

Are they hidding or not have the the backbone or the math skills to kick this deception ? And, if anything , when you talk about “ this is for the kids “ ? If any of a time is about the kids ?, this should of happen 45 years ago !

Once again, public teaching, public teachers lack of ( not all ) protecting and educational future !

Is it about health insurance, or bowing to the everlasting lasting , super of schools ?

We ,as the taxpayers, pay for the super, the board of education vote on what people want and what is best for the taxpayers !

It is amazing that this talk about this project , for ten years , was kept under wraps !

And WHO are the liars ?

Get out and VOTE !

And teachers, if you vote yes, this will mean the school board, student enrollment, teacher employment, will go down !

Are you oswego dist. teachers ready to sell your outside the school district homes ( might be in other counties ) or wanting to support the work area, and move into the city of oswego, ny ?

Heck, I will bet that you would even support the off street parking ban, even if it meant , that you teachers, would have to park in public parking, or , heaven forbid, get parking permits ! What is this world coming too ! Bow and pray !
                                                                                                                        February 24/18

Oswego encouraging people to work and live in the City
Four of Oswego's top employers join the City on Resident Recruitment Initiative

The city dropped all residency requirements for its employees and now this bullshit plan to get people to move back. Just another photo op for little Willie Barlow.

                                                                                                                        February 24/18

Hiring requirements?!? OFD
So it is factual that according to the Oswego City job announcement for firefighter you no longer need to be a city or Oswego county resident, just a state resident. This means new hires and existing fireman can live as far away as they want. One would think that in times of need it would be beneficial to live somewhere nearby. The fireman work one day every four days, it is plausible that someone that lives three hours or more away would come here to work in Oswego. Mayor and council once again you are made to look like fools, any responsible official would see that this not a way to protect your citizens , but a way for your fire chief to get his friends from out of town second jobs. Making the pool of candidates larger only decreases the local work forces ability to score high enough on the test to be eligible. You are most likely are being told there are not enough candidates, but
that is solely because you have not had a test in three years and have exausted the amount of eligible candidates. Your fire chief is misleading you and your residents. He is motivated by the need for complete power, that is why you still have an ambulance, it helps justify the need for more employees, and total controll of the city.
                                                                                                                        February 24/18






Trumps Biker Babe

Nothing says biker like new jacket, new shoes, designer jeans

and about twenty pounds of covergirl.







Today's Quote February 23/2018

The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time.

Bertrand Russell

'Pathetically Weak': Father Of Student Slain In Florida Excoriates Marco Rubio

The Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot with their own assault rifles and the Democrats are too stupid to seize the opportunity. Instead the Democrats will run a bunch of losers like Kirsten Gillibrand and the balance of power will stay with the GOP and that lying scumbag Trump.
                                                                                                                        February 23/18


Claudia Tenney , 22nd Congressional, believes Democrats are Mass Murderers
After claiming that many mass murderers were Democrats, Representative Claudia Tenney, a Republican lawmaker from Central New York, said as an aside, “The media doesn’t talk about that either.”
I can hardly wait for her re-election bid this November, when the Democrats in her district find out she thinks we are all mass murderers. When the political ads hit the air ways and they play the video showing her accusing her Democrat constituency of being mass murderers, she can kiss her seat goodbye. She also received $5950 from the NRA in 2016 but does not list the contribution on her web site.
Could someone please advise the voters of the 22nd about her relationship with David Townsend; you know, he was the representative from the old 115 district.
                                                                                                                        February 23/18

Taxpayer money wasted
What is going on with the DPW? Did anyone else notice this morning (Thursday), that the snow plows were going all over the city spreading salt on completely dry roads? The DPW need to consider saving taxpayer money instead of wasting it. Is there no accountability? No wonder our Oswego City taxes are out of control.
                                                                                                                        February 23/18

Claudia Tenney Labels Democrats As Mass Murderers

“It’s interesting that so many of these people that commit the mass murders end up being Democrats … but the media doesn’t talk about that either.”

Strangely enough the media never seems to report the majority of all sex offenders seem to be Republicans. Which little boys and girls have you been fondling Claudia?

                                                                                                                        February 23/18

Who’s the boss?
Mayor Barlow is it true that you are a stupid kid polotition that does what he is told to do? Your fire chief seems to refer to you and the council as just that, you are just not that smart and can be smooth talked into anything. Things such as sneeking new hires in you will never notice. You should really check the number of fireman now it's over forty. Being lied to why you need a ambulance. Menter does a better job than the fire department ever did.The Oswego fire department is Griffin's toy box not a City fire department. His decisions are made by the complete need for power. He couldn't bs his way any farther in his own department so now he is here to make a fool out of you. You were elected to be a mayor and you probably should start to act like one. The majority of tax payers know it's common sense to let Menter take over to the ambulance.Even the Governor and Albany thinks consolidating the ambulance makes sense.Your fire chiefs decisions are made by the need for power and controll of everything.
                                                                                                                        February 23/18


Ellis From Novelis
It took forever to fire Singelton but somehow he got unemployment out of it. If he is still getting medical coverage maybe it will cover the NARCAN they used to bring him back from the dead the other day.
                                                                                                                        February 23/18


Construction Friendly
So , with the mayor, and others, they are saying that they are working with reds. and outside contractors ?

How does a person who owns or has required property thru death, and does not have the capital to pay back taxes ! How does this person able to proceed in construction, renovate , clean up appeaances and proceed with improvements ?

Talk about a one sided game . Broadwell and Pauline get the grants, and the Reds get the short end of this cannot get a permit , due to back taxes, back dog lic. or just lack of monies and basic business savvy, which mr. enright lacked !

Has the city of oswego, just increased the rental fee permits and stopped the rental inspections ?

And as far as the school board goes, these water storage tanks ( over flow ) goes, what are there sizes ( please give this to me in cubic yards ) !
The tanks would have to have a cap. of one million gals, which would take up a area of ( did mini me give that stat ? ) .

Two tanks would have to be one quarter the size of the oswego high school ! And to evacuate the water ( not knowing if it is direct to the lake or to the water treatment plant, which would have to update that size of there lines ! Which also includes, pump up dates, elec update, ( and who pays for the updates and elec. ? And please think about the excavation involved in digging for two tanks, pumps to vac the water, inspespections, road work to carry the water volume, road work to construction, and replace ! This is not a $ 60,000,000.00 plus %15 of the cost ( arch fees ) = $ 69,000,000.00 , this is a labor maintenance project forever !
                                                                                                                        February 23/18

Trump’s Russian Friends attacked U.S. Troops
Putin ally said to be in touch with Kremlin, Assad before his mercenaries attacked U.S. troops

                                                                                                                        February 23/18








Today's Quote February 22/2018

Associate yourself with people of good quality, for it is better to be alone than in bad company.

Booker T. Washington

Brett Law
Brett Law is a liar. Brett knew didn't you Brett?? Don't lie now Brett..It's obvious you were well aware.
                                                                                                                        February 22/18

Gary's Book.
Gary and his family have editors helping build his book. It's based off all facts, court documents, and every ounce of information produced by every angle of this injustice. It's coming very soon. It has a web site built to let the reader interact with each chapter. This is gonna make OZ look like the twilight zone.
Once it's live, ready, will post the link to you great folks. It'll be available for download and paperback edition. There are 3 books in total as the story is too long to detail all in one book. We begin with Manna from Heaven and take you back to 1994-1995. Thibodeaus are very excited they finally have a voice.
To the Allen's your daughter was not a coke head and to support the DA you are supporting the theory she was a druggie and an adultres. I pray you stop supporting a theory that destroys the true reputation and life Heidi built. She was an outstanding young lady and that will be portrayed through out Gary's book. God forgive you for supporting the idea she was a druggie. With no facts to support the DA you stood by this. Gary's book will reflect the real truth. Not reflect as Heidis sisters book has. No facts, no truth and not an ounce of knowledge to this case.
                                                                                                                        February 22/18

Lawmakers introduce bill to fine people with saggy pants in South Carolina
PLEASE DO THIS IN OSWEGO. ALSO LEAVE THEIR PAJAMAS AT HOME. We need some good old fashion parenting.

                                                                                                                        February 22/18

Business Friendly To Who
Pauline gets a grant to what ? A building that has kids, but yet he was in court on sex charges !
New grass, garbage rules, cut grass does not go out into the street , regardless of if it is the dpw. or taxpayers ! Snow, grass, leafs, snow blower discharge, so the city wants to punish taxpayers trying to clean up there properties, but yet , the mayor, does not address the bad streets from t west 2nd street to the forks of the road ! And that is only the start !

So if a house has a parking space of one car, why is it getting a occupant rating of FIVE ?

So if a person owns five rental properties, an houses hold five each ! That would mean five X five people per house hold = 125, but yet the person that owns five properties , for example, gets only one vote . assuming that the renters are not reg. to vote !

And what about people that lost a love one , and the property went into estate, want to clean and clear up the house, but if taxes are behind one or two years, how is this a friendly business venture with the city of oswego, ny

nd please tell me how broad well gets a twenty year tax break, and can reapply after another twenty years ! ( which amounts to a 40 year tax break ) !

And how come that there is no more rental inspections ?

And how come the board of education is in bad monies and lack of education future ?

Just more of bobble head thinking, just like the board of education !

Does any one of these people want to make a difference, or just want to give themselves the pat on the back for being coffee drinkers !

When does the backbone begin ?

I guess the mayor and kells are planing the next power grab ! And how is being behind taxes ( estate taxes, for starts ) going to get someone out of a monies debt, when that estate does not have the monies to pay for a dumpster fee permit , in which a dumpster is needed to clear the house , so that work can be done to paint, update, make the house somewhat pleasing to the buyer ?

But the city of oswego, ny wants to grab monies for permits before the person or persons are dead !

The city of oswego, is not working with people, but only to grab monies from taxpayers, but give monies to the west side business owners, pauline on his one million and change comes to mind !

And ,I could be wrong, but a person who is charged , or convicted of a felony, cannot recieve state, federal monies !
                                                                                                                        February 22/18

business friendly to who ?
So the Oswego fire chief awarded fireman of the year to supposedly the same person that was suspended for thirty days.This is why the wheasl had to leave Onadoga County, no one could trust him. Good luck Oswego.
                                                                                                                        February 22/18









Today's Quote February 20-21/2018

Blessed are the young for they shall inherit the national debt.

Herbert Hoover

Re Re Me Too
The poster couldn’t be more wrong and the possibility of a class action suit is a very real thing. There has been a culture of sexual harassment in that bank for decades. Current and former employees need to stand together and act now.
                                                                                                                         February 20-21/18


RE: Touching Tony
John Gosek is a pedophile also ! A Convicted sexual predator !
                                                                                                                         February 20-21/18

Pauldine Gets Biggest Pile Of Taxpayers Money
1,895,000 In Downtown Revitalization Funds Earmarked For Properties Owned By Man Who Massaged Teenage Boy Until He Ejaculated.

                                                                                                                         February 20-21/18

Attention seniors, Trump’s budget is coming for your Medicare benefits

                                                                                                                         February 20-21/18

Me Too
Not sure who or when But I overheard someone from the bank discussing paying a woman off if she kept her mouth shut.
                                                                                                                         February 20-21/18







Today's Quote February 19/2018

Anyone who wonders how a man like Adolph Hitler came to power

need only observe the politics of the United States from the year 2016 forward.
Elliston Howard

I doubt you would see anyone in Ozwego County do it.
Half of them consider it an honor to be sexually harassed by one of the local solid citizens.
The other half would tell you they just ignore it because it is like that everywhere.
Some of he staunchest advocates of women’s rights came from central New York but their message fell on deaf ears when it came to Oz.
                                                                                                                           February 19/18


Who Are These People And What Do They Have In Common?
Hannah Ahlers, Heather Alvarado, Dorene Anderson ,Carrie Barnette, Jack Beaton, Steve Berger,Candice Bowers,Denise Salmon Burditus, Sandy Casey, Andrea Castilla, Denise Cohen, Austin Davis,Thomas Day Jr,,Cristiana Duarte,Stacee Etcheber, Brian Fraser,Keri Galvan, Dana Gardner, Angela Gomez, Rocio Guillen, Charleston Hartfield, Chris Hazencomb, Jennifer Irvine, Nicol Kimura, Jessica Klymchuk, Carly Kreibaum, Rhonda LeRocque,Victor Link, Jordan McIldoon, Kelsey Meadows, Calla Medig, Sonny Melton, Pati Mestas, Austin Meyer, Adrian Murfitt, Rachael Parker, Jennifer Parks, Carrie Parsons, Lisa Patterson, John Phippen, Melissa Ramirez, Jordyn Rivera, Quinton Robbins,Cameron Robinson, Sara Roe Smith, Lisa Romero-Muniz, Christopher Roybal, Brett Schwanbeck, Bailey Schweitzer, Laura Shipp, Erick Silva, Susan Smith, Brennan Stewart, Derrick Taylor, Michelle Vo, Kurt Von Tillow, Bill Wolfe Jr, Robert Scott Marshall, Karen Sue Marshall , Keith Allen Braden ,Tara E. McNulty, Annabelle Renae Pomeroy, Peggy Lynn Warden, Dennis Neil Johnson, Sr., Sara Johns Johnson , Lula Woicinski White, Joann Lookingbill Ward , Brooke Bryanne Ward , Robert Michael Corrigan , Shani Louise Corrigan , Therese Sagan Rodriguez, Ricardo Cardona Rodriguez , Haley Krueger , Emily Garcia (died at the hospital, Emily Rose Hill , Gregory Lynn Hill, Megan Gail Hill , Marc Daniel Holcombe , Noah Holcombe , Karla Plain Holcombe , John Bryan Holcombe , Crystal Marie Holcombe (pregnant*) , Carlin Brite "Billy Bob" Holcombe (unborn) 0, Alyaas Alhadeff, Joaquin Oliver, Meadow Pollack, ScottBeigel, Alaina Petty, Jaime Guttenberg, Martin Duque, Gina Montaito, Aaron Fels, Chris Hixon, Nicholas Dworet, Peter Wang, Lke Hoyer, Carmen Schentrup, Helena Ramsay, Alex Schachter, Cara Loughran

They were all killed by AR15's since Oct 3,2017 (135 days). All under the watch of John Katko who wants us to pray for these people, but had no problem taking $9,900 from the NRA. His last statement was again, he want us to pry for the victims, and he wants to have a conversation. Hey John, why don't you have a conversation with the families of the above and explain to them why their loved ones are dead, and why you did nothing to stop the sale of AR15's which killed them. You have been in office for 4 years, and this will, "become a conversation for the upcoming election for the 24th, and the same goes for Claudia Tenney in the 22nd". You are both pawns of the NRA and the GOP, both who could give a good crap about the above lives that were lost.
                                                                                                                           February 19/18


Katko is a big disappointment. With his experience as a Federal Prosecutor he should know a lying crook when he sees one yet he has no problem overlooking the criminal attributes of that scummy lowlife which some people call president. Claudia Tenny is just a big political whore who cannot wait to get in line to suck Trump’s ass.

Me Too Pathfinder
Pathfinder bank will soon have to change their slogan from "My Bank" to the "Me Too Bank" based on soon to be public allegations.
                                                                                                                           February 19/18

Touching Tony
Just a reminder that everyone in Oswego knows Tony Pauldine is a pedophile. That is all...
                                                                                                                           February 19/18








Today's Quote February 17-18/2018

A man is but the product of his thoughts what he thinks, he becomes.
Mahatma Gandhi

Trump’s ‘Russia hoax’ turns out to be real

Reading the Mueller Indictment: A Russian-American Fraud
Reading the Mueller Indictment: A Russian-American Fraud | The New Yorker

                                                                                                                           February 17-18/18

Re: Me Too
I would hope that anybody that has been a target of sexual harassment by the president of Pathfinder would get the other people who were targets and hire a lawyer. If it is true, and there are others that are willing to come forth, take him down.
                                                                                                                           February 17-18/18

Gary Thibodeau....The Death Of Common Sense
Reading the latest on this web I believe the case really surrounds the first people at the store. A lot of their stories don't make sense. Not seeing anyone, any cars but then one guy sees a kidnapping but the other guy who was there earlier doesn't.

There are a number of suspicious events: Person who sent Steen text.."CYA Heidi". It sure seems that he knew Steen was involved doesn't it? and he doesn't know who sent it from his phone...hard to believe.

Stinson's story still baffles me...think about it.

Swenkowski saw Richard leave 7:42-7:43 but his truck was seen by neighbors 2 minutes after that...impossible.

I really believe that if he wins, he will win the next trial. Will Lisa opt for a trial without a jury? And will the FBI investigate the OCSD actions as they are obviously corrupt. Almost to the unbelievable.
                                                                                                                           February 17-18/18

$60,000,000 School Board Mis-guided Expenditure
This group of people that call themselves a "School Board" have not got a clue what they are doing to the taxpayers of the Oswego School District. We already know many facts about this $60,000,000 spending plan that we don't need. Here are some of those facts:
· The seven buildings need minimal repairs which are cosmetic at best. Maybe $5 million would take care of any of the needs and that is probably generous .
· It is a fact that they used $4,000,000 from reserve to balance the last budget and filled all the positions that were eliminated the year before.
· There will be a PIOLT reduction of $450,000 for this coming budget.
· The state is reducing state aid as was outlined by the governor so state aid will also be reduced.
· The District is already upside down in debt with over $55,000,000 in debt, not counting the money they will need to bond for their spending plan.
· Enrollment is down by 500 students and is not increasing
· We have too many schools which are under utilized and one or two of the schools should be eliminated.
· The ratio of teacher to student is 1:9 and should be a standard of 1:13 indicating there are too many teachers and aids.
· The football program is going to a county program and we are having trouble getting enough kids to make a varsity team.
· They want a turf marching field with a 2000 seating capacity which is in a flood zone and requires under ground tanks under the field to collect the flood water to be pumped off after heavy rains.
· They want to also have a turf field for the marching band to practice on.
· Goeway wants the field to be named after him $23,000,000...really
· The graduation rate is at 72% a which means that 28% of the class will eventually be on welfare.
· We WILL get another tax increase in the next budget bringing you taxes for a standard house ($100,000 with basic STAR) will be over $1800 for next year.
· You will have another $40/year added to your tax for 15 years if this is passed on March 6 , not counting the 2.5% increase they just gave you. Must be they think this is a rich district...NOT
These are all facts. I will vote NO on this resolution on March 6, and everybody in the district might want to think about this before they burden themselves with unsustainable school taxes. Don't be fooled by "it's for the kids", it's for the ego of the Oswego City School District and the superintendent. Might be time to think about a new school board which will start making reasonable cuts and be responsible to the taxpayers and to provide a good education for our kids!
                                                                                                                           February 17-18/18

Tops Supermarkets owners preparing to file for bankruptcy protection

That is no wonder. Their prices are as high as a convenience store.
                                                                                                                           February 17-18/18








Today's Quote February 16/2018

Oh, if I could but live another century and see the fruition of all the work for women!

There is so much yet to be done.
Susan B. Anthony

Barlow proposes stricter property maintenance rules
Enforce the ones we already have.

                                                                                                                            February 16/18

Were These Kids In shock?
A few minutes ago I watched an interview on national TV with four students from Parkland high school who felt compelled to speak out on behalf of their friend that was killed. Three girls and one boy all wearing some form of clothing with the school logo sat talking to the reporter. They were calm, articulate and there was not a tear from any of them nor any sign that they had been crying.
                                                                                                                            February 16/18

Parks supervisor made officers ‘offer up’ wives for promotions: suit
                                                                                                                            February 16/18



How Long before Its Pathfinders Turn

The recent womens movement is working its way down the food chain.

There are many current and former employees who could tell stories about the bank president.

If just one person comes forward that would put the stockholders right in the toilet.

                                                                                                                            February 16/18








Today's Quote February 12-13/2018

If you're going to do something tonight that you'll be sorry for tomorrow morning, sleep late.

Henny Youngman

Mens Varsity Basketball Coach …Multiple Arrests
This is what happens when you hire looser teachers to coach sports instead of someone qualified and they want the taxpayers to shell out 60 million for a new sports complex. Will the new complex have a consession stand that sells beer so the coaches won’t have to go to Cheap Seats????????????
Oswego boys Varsity basketball coach JAMES B LAMACCHIA who is also a teacher with the Mexico School District, and a resident of Fulton, was arrested multiple times. After the game on Saturday February 10th the coach went to the bar across from the school and drank until after 1:00 AM when he decided to drive home. At West Second and Mohawk streets about half a block from the police station he ran a stop sign and crossed the centerline in the road. At the police station he refused to take a breathalyzer test then became combative and began spitting at police.
Later he was taken to Fulton for arraignment where he again began to fight and spit at Fulton Police and was arrested once more.

AR-18-00135 JAMES B LAMACCHIA DOB: 09/06/1967 02/10/2018 West Second Street/ West Mohawk St,
26 South Pollard dr, Fulton, NEW YORK 13069 01:38:00 Oswego, NEW YORK 13126
VTL 1192 03 - DWI- 1ST OFFENSE

AR-18-00145 JAMES B LAMACCHIA DOB: 09/06/1967 02/10/2018 169 West Second Street, Oswego, NEW
                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18

Wow, If This Budget Is True..
the members of the board of education, for the past 20 years , super of schools, might be guilty of bad math, wrong person in charge of education ( Cathy C ) ,wasting taxpayers monies, members of the board missing the picture of voc high school , and lacking in money deception ! but I will bet, if one of them gets short change on a food order, they will be quick to point it out !

Would like to see the super of schools pay, beneifit pay out, cell phone charges, vechile ?, petty cash ? charge card ? Health insurance , is this also covering his wife ? I hear she gets $ 250,000.00 also ! so are we having a over lap in insurance ?

But is this Building game nothing more that to cover monies in the school district. over bad accounting and free spending in their lack of economics and back bone to see who is stealing and who is dumb !
                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18

House Fire

Is waterbury raising money to pay his lawyers or is it to keep the Ren Fair going
                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18

Wal-Mart to pay $2.1M for overcharging customers
Just the tip of the iceberg ……check your receipts carefully they are also ringing up charges for gift cards and cash back that is pocketed by the cashiers.

                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18

Another Waterbury House Burns
Nice to see that the Oswego City Code Department is right on top of inspecting Waterbury's house. His rental (dump) at 123-125 W Bridge burned today. Must be the result of ru bbing two insurancr policies together. Assessed value of $64,500 and has not been re-assessed for at least 12 years. Gee, what a shock, no inspection, no new assessment. I wonder if he tried to get a little from the female renters? Must be the assessor and the code officer were to busy to do their jobs.
                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18

Re: Crews responding to fire on West Bridge Street in Oswego
Insurance policy and mortgage sparking?
                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18

Pennsylvania Republicans have drawn a new congressional map that is just as gerrymandered as the old one


                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18

Brett Law LIAR
Brett tells officers in 94 Heidi feared no one. Why is it Brett changed his story 20 years later. Now claiming Heidi feared a coke head who was in and out of jail? Why would her own boyfriend lie so bad about something that could have helped lead them to Heidi? That could have changed the course of so many lives? One could conclude Brett knows far more than he leads on. Brett how is it you've lived all these years, with not an ounce of guilt to your part in the lies that incarcerated an innocent human being? Sick bastard. There is a pretty place in hell for you and your buddies. If you think citizens aren't aware of your relationship in 94 with the original probable suspect the super hero writer the big, big guy you couldn't be more wrong. As many have already reported and confirmed your relationship with Garys attorney. Truth is you are both assholes, with no conscience. .


                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18

FREE: exercise equip
                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18

Gary's day
The People, Respondent, v. Gary Thibodeau, Appellant.
                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18

Argument Date: 04/26/2018
Read the four documents available. Be informed.
Don’t believe all the BS hearsay from LE!!
                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18

Trump Budget his priorities and take everything from the poor and entitlements
Trump budget would boost defense funding, slash domestic spending - NBC News


                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18

West Bridge Street House Fire
Owner : Mr. Waterbury

Vacant at the Time..Hmmm !
                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18







Today's Quote February 11/2018

The law was made for one thing alone,

for the exploitation of those who don't understand it,

or are prevented by naked misery from obeying it.
Bertolt Brecht

Oswego City School District budget 2018 Vs. 2019..Suprise!
This whole scheme that the Oswego City School District Superintendent Goewey and the agreement by the uninformed School Board is going to give you a big surprise in 2019, next year, that they are not telling you about. The district is broke and if you pass the $60,180,000 joke that you will vote on, hopefully NO, on March 6th; in 2019 you are going to get a big increase in your school taxes.
Here is the history:
2017-2018 budget gave you a 2.4%tax increase which might not seem like much when they put it in terms of a percentage, but in real dollars, for a $100,000 house ( average for the district) with basic star, prior to the tax increase, was $1,400. Your tax liability this year was, for the same house is $1,432 and if you pass this foolish spending plan your tax will be $1,459. Now comes 2019, and because of loss of revenue from the PIOLT, (a minus $400,000), a very small increase in state aid, $8,500,000 in debt payment and no reserve to make up the $4,000,000 that was snuck into the revenue stream last year from reserve and fund balance, increases for the teachers and administration salaries, and benefits, there will be over 7% tax increase needed to make up the losses, in the revenue stream. That will come from you in your taxes! This is fact, not made up numbers. Check the budget; do not rely on the board, as they are don't even know how to read the budget, and most of them never looked at it, just agreed to do what Goewey put in font of them.
Your tax liability in 2019 will around $1,600. This is so we can do some cosmetic repairs to the schools and to build a $23,000,000 Marching Band Turf Field, that at times may be under water do to no drainage. Think about it, you will pay out $3,000 for the next 15 years not counting what other bonding this board will come up with. Also remember that the district is up-side-down in debt. They owe over $58,000,000 in bonds and all the school buildings combined are only worth $47,000,000. (that includes the rinks). If that was your house, the bank would have taken it already.
Send a message to these fools and get out and vote on March 6th, and VOTE NO!
                                                                                                                           February 11/18

School District Games
Does anyone wonder if a person running for school board can separate them selves to be, to the best of their ability NOT having relatives working for the School District or the city, county, or wal- mart or chase construction ?

Would like to see what townships the oswego city school teachers, principals, vice principals, super of schools and his wife live in ?
And got to ask the question, how come Bell and Tripp are not speaking out on this phoney construction game ? Do they have relatives working for the school district, or the city ?

Please, get out and vote, somewhere along the line , we as taxpayers, have to stop this power control and lying ! God bless Joe Wilbur field, not mini -me field !

Time for a real trade school !
                                                                                                                           February 11/18

ICE Set To Deport Undocumented Father Whose 5-Year-Old Son Is Battling Cancer

                                                                                                                           February 11/18







Today's Quote February 10/2018

There is nothing so strong or safe in an emergency of life as the simple truth.

Charles Dickens



school district

to the poster who keeps writing about "goey".....maybe some info you did not know or you might who knows.....when he graduated college this school district would NOT hire him because of his GPA......he went to work for Mexico school district.  His father who was principal at Riley and whom I worked for as a teacher was a cheating philanderer....came to work everyday, went into his office, and got on the phone with his girlfriend.  I felt very bad for his wife she was a nice lady.  Then HE hired "goey's" wife at Riley....definite conflict of interest the teaching staff all felt.  Dino makes fun of black people and gets a slap on the hand and ends of Super......he doesn't know dog shit about what a good super is and his father was a lying, cheating, ignoramus.....and as far as Bell goes he doesn't know shit about anything especially code enforcement... Oswego is all about who you blow not who you know!!!!!

                                                                                                                            February 10/18



Mr. Oakes:

Correct me if I’m wrong, I don’t recall Dodd’s lying “eyewitness” EVER mentioning in any police statement or court testimony that the girl he “knew” was Heidi was or was not wearing a jacket when he supposedly witnessed the struggle.  He sure did mention her chest though!!  Funny…he noticed that but not what kind of shirt or jacket she may have been wearing?!?  How dare you twist Mr. Pierce’s statements and testimony to fit your agenda.  Fact that you didn’t accurately convey in your brief to the Appeals Court-Mr. Pierce drew a beard on Gary’s newspaper photo in 1994 and “thought it was close enough” so he didn’t come forward then.  Never crossed your pea mind that a young looking mugshot of Steen from 6 years prior to Heidi’s disappearance was inappropriate?  You did mention that the photo of Steen was 6 years prior in your filing…makes one wonder why YOU didn’t take it upon yourself, seeing that you question the integrity of the lead investigator-Mr. Petriski-to find a photo closer to April 1994.  Can’t do that but would-Fact-sit in on an interview with a witness who tells you and Petriski what she knew happened to Heidi?!?!


Mr. Bivens was torn limb from limb on the stand…pleading the fifth about lying on an insurance form…yet the jury believed his “eyewitness” account???  Yeah!, he’s a real stand-up guy…coming forward AFTER the reward was offered and by pressure from his significant other.  Nothing to gain for testimony??...Yeah right.  Just like Mr. Baldasaro received no benefit.  Which is another lie.  May I refer you to the handwritten notes from the ADA’s, previously posted on this site, to the clear/concise explanation that Mr. Baldasaro was to be given probation in opposition to Florida’s Probation Department recommendation that he be jailed.


You think you are so smart and have loyalty from others in Oswego??  Just wait until reelection time when You are not endorsed because you followed orders about fighting Gary’s exoneration that resulted in the public getting the Truth!!  You are the one with egg on your face.  Well, not the only one…Judge Donnie Dodd should be sanctioned for his part and Mr. Rule Todd as well!!  Good Luck…though it seems in politics, constituents have to pick between the lesser of two evils instead of the most qualified.  When is election?  I won’t be voting for you.


I sleep on a soft pillow.  What about YOU?



On To You

                                                                                                                            February 10/18   



Super Of School Dist Job !

  What is the job scope of the super ?


  What is the job scope of the board of education ( always thought that it watched over monies ) , and not just buying  coffee and food !


  Mr Bell , nice job of building  porches and decks WITH OUT A PERMIT !


  But, for some reason, you are on the school board and  city of oswego works with you and tells and avery ! Why is that  ? Are you bending, or just a  low level construction  person playing the big game  !


  Please people, get out and vote NO,  And ask the school board members  why mr goey gets  $ 250,000.00 plus benefits a year ?


  And please ask, why MOST of the TEACHERS of the oswego  city school district, LIVE OUTSIDE  OSWEGO, COUNTY ? Which can mean, lack of city, county taxes  paid to oswego ! And of course, that would mean, the property  ( township )would get the taxes ! Has mr goey  and the board address this ?


How many school teachers have direct deposit, which could mean  local banks, city, county do not receive workers tax payouts !


So the city, county, and school district run dry on monies, and lack of math, english, and the need for a VOCATIONAL HIGH SCHOOL, BUT YET, mini me wants to name a field in his honor ? If anything, it should be in the honor of  Dr. Ed Lisk !

                                                                                                                             February 10/18









Today's Quote February 9/2018

In our Country... one class of men makes war and leaves another to fight it out.
William Tecumseh Sherman

Pennsylvania's Supreme Court Explains Why It Struck Down Congressional Map Favoring GOP

                                                                                                                           February 9/18

Deputy Curtis
The 745 time comes from the officer who reached the scene first. Whom was waved down by Stitson. What Curtis doesn't comprehend by his 745 testimony. Is he put himself on the scene at the exact time Bivens would be passing the store. Bivens left east 2nd street at 730. It's 16 minutes from point a to point b. Putting Bivens on scene at the same exact time 745/746 (This does not included stops n gos at all stop lights heading out of Oswego as he stated). Stitson tells you on scene time was 758, later changed to 755, again changed by Curtis at 745. Then you have Fabian whom left her home in Fulton N.Y. at 712 am. 22 minutes from there to where she spotted the van on 104/69 placing this van at that location by 734. Mr.Nevill also left his home at 730, it's 4 miles from his house to the corner of 104/69 putting the van again at that very spot Fabian says by 734. Way before Richard Thibodeau ever arrived at the store and cashed out at 742. So 2 witnesses place a speeding van at the same spot at the same time of 734, Curtis placed himself on scene with Stitson and Bivens. Then you have the young girl whom claims to have seen Richards van by Gary's home at 748. Leaving 6 minutes to travel at estimated 15 miles. Putting the speed of the van at 150 mph. Then there's Baldasaro who says they picked Heidi up by the check out time of 742, drove to Gary's and back to the store, by 745. Leaving 3 minutes to travel 30 miles. Putting the speed then of this van at a whooping 300 mph. Fact check it Greg. Every ounce of these times came straight from your filing. Every drop of this is your own filing. That you never fact checked or did an estimate for time travel. You have 2 witnesses spotting a van 8 minutes before your scheduled kidnapping. 1 witness that saw the kidnapping at the exact time your officer testified to being on the scene. The only one dead on with the time is MR.S cashing out at 741, 11 minutes exactly from point a to the store from which he traveled from. Cashing him out at exactly 741. He is the only one that's dead on. Then there's Sheriff Nellis whom states on scene time was 758. Which Sheriffs lying?
By Greg's filing this is the time line
734 Fabian spots a van
734 Nellis spots a van
741 Stitson arrives sees nothing
742 Richard kidnaps Heidi
745 Curtis on scene
745/746 Bivens passes the store says he witnessed the kidnapping
748 Richards vans seen at Gary's
Either way you see it. By your own filing Greg. It's all IMPOSSIBLE
                                                                                                                           February 9/18

Brace for IMPACT
February 27th Lisa's side's traveling to take lie detector tests. They will be aired across national television. Offers on the table Murtagh, Wescott, Bohrer, Breckenridge. Here's your chance to clear your name. The show would love to have you. If interested. Reach out here, we will make certain they get in touch with you immediately. Lisa's side's not backing down. Let's see who shows and who doesn't. If you are lying you won't if you are not you'll be there with bells on. DA Oakes when said and done you'll owe tons of folks an apology. Best thing I can tell you. Is you should run, very quickly and as fast as you can. This will air live during the day hitting every liberal city across the East coast. Estimated millions in viewers. Here's your chance "persons of interest" to stand up, grow some balls and let's see if you are lying. But I'll put money on it. Not one of you show.
                                                                                                                           February 9/18

John Kelly Calls Aide Facing Abuse Allegations A Wife Beater Of True Integrity

                                                                                                                           February 9/18

He's at it again

Below was taken from the latest meeting agenda....Wants to charge the tax payers for use of a public park, but will let this organization have it for free? I suppose the use of our DPW workers are at no cost also? So wrong!!!
Agenda Physical Services Committee Meeting Monday, February 5, 2018 Time: 6:30 p.m.
2. Thomas Kells, DPW Commissioner, received communication from Harbor Festivals, Inc., stating Oswego Harborfest 2018 will be held Thursday, July 26 through Sunday, July 29, 2018. Harbor Festivals, Inc. is requesting the use of the City locations listed in the attached correspondence for the specified dates at no cost.

So the mayor is saving money in overtime? How about reporting ALL the numbers? How much has Kells cost the city? New equipment, new hires, bonuses, promotions, made to order titles ( complaint investigator) early retirements, trailer rentals (10,000. a year), contracting his buddies trucks (Riccelli) to haul snow when they used to work with the county for trucks, at little to no cost, new vehicles, security cameras, GPS in all vehicles.. Well, not all vehicles, right Kells??? Just how many huge flat screen tv's? what is the cost comparison of operating the DPW 24/7 vs. running two shifts? Increase fuel consumption, equipment repairs, utilities? Add all this into the equation and then publish the real report. Are those trees they planted around the city, Money Trees? Sure they must be because where is all this money coming from? How much of a tax increase will we see this year? Think about it.
                                                                                                                           February 9/18

I Would Like To Thank.....
…. Mr Tripp and Mr Bell for your complete Ignorance in construction and what it is to lay down to a total clown ( goey ) !

I guess that the maintenance staff , for the oswego city school district, is not able to fix just deliver mail ! Or is mr goey just trying to rule a kingdom !

And , if there were to be a music field to be named after someone , it should be Mr lambert or Mr lisk !

But the school board , gooey are not even addressing the real needs of the students ( trade school ) ! And not that thing in mexico, ny ! Is not a
real trade school !

Window blister is due to no thermo brake, not masonry ! What would goey know about construction ? And it appears that tripp and bell no nothing about commercial construction, but only when to bow or nod !

Time to see why mr goey gets paid $ 250,000,00 per year, plus benefits for the rest of his life ! Are YOU PEOPLE OKAY WITH THIS ? Heck, He even is not that smart!

seven schools, seven principals, but in goey ’s world, TEN Principals ! and not knowing what the count is for vice -principals !
                                                                                                                           February 9/18

Tennessee Sheriff Said 'I Love This Shit' After Ordering Deputies To Shoot Suspect:

                                                                                                                           February 9/18







Today's Quote February 8/2018

A lie would have no sense unless the truth were felt dangerous.

Alfred Adler

Greg Oakes out right lied in his filing.
He writes the on scene time was 745 am. The actual first report for the on scene time by Sheriff Nellis was 758. It later changed to 755. But in Greg's filing he has on scene time as 745. Here's another kicker. Bivens left his house at 730 am per reports, hitting every stop light out of Oswego. It's 16 minutes from his address to dnw store which puts bivens on scene at 746. So Greg why not tell these great citizens how your officers on scene per your filing at the same exact time your eye witness and your witness Stitson was on scene. You can't. Because you can't. You'd think you'd readjust your entire botched lying fraudulent case. Here's the proof. All lies Greg. I pray you are disbarred for filing false information.






                                                                                                                           February 8/18

Oswego City School District Vote
Attention all home owners in the Oswego City School District it is definitely of the utmost importance to get up out your chairs, off of your couches and get out and
vote on this at least 60,180,000.00 proposition. As we all know there are always more things added on in any major project. If this proposition is not voted down you are going to need much more than a "Trump" tax cut. You will be basically owned by the School District once those School Tax bills start arriving every October. It will most likely come to a point where each home owner will have to have a payment book so that they can pay an equal amount every month as a means of keeping up. If you think your quarterly water/sewer bills of 275.00 are high now well I have a news flash for you, YOU HAVEN'T SEEN NOTHING YET!!!
Bottom line if you do not make an effort to get out and vote on March 6 2018 we will all be paying the price for many years to come. I don't know how much room is left down South but should this go through, there had better be a lot of it.
                                                                                                                           February 8/18

Sexual harassment in Albany: 6 years, a thousand complaints and more than $6.4M

                                                                                                                           February 8/18

According to ABC polls (after the SOTU), 80% of Americans agree with Trump

 -- the other 20% are welfare recipients and journalists. thank you mr Trump for MAGA (make America great again) its amazing to see the pride in this country returning....president Trump is doing exactly what we elected him to do ! the state of the union adress was awesome! It sure was not to hard to see what the swamp looks like and the media was helpless to defend them, with president trump leading i believe we will indeed make this country great again Our mayor mr Barlow is doing a fine job, mr kells is shaping this old city up and the dpw crews are a great bunch of hard working folks and our girl friday that also overseas wrights landing you are doing an awesome job this city needs more employees with the desire and drive to make our hometown a better and more beautiful place ....Thank you!.....lets make oswego great again
                                                                                                                           February 8/18


Goewey Trying to Make a Silk Purse Out of a Sow's Ear
In the paper today, Goewey is again trying to lobby for his $60,000,000 debacle and wants to convince the voters of the Oswego School District that this is needed or the schools will crumble to the ground, "says chicken little". We need to spend millions to make the water systems "lead free", which come from the city, the same water that comes into our houses, which is tested and is lead free. Actually, the kids consume 99% of their drinking water at their homes, will occasionally drink from the water fountain, and will drink milk or fruit juice for lunch in the school cafeteria. You can purchase carbon Monoxide detectors just like the ones in most peoples houses for hardly anything, jet the consultants gave a quote of $2,500,000 for Carbon Monoxide detectors and lead free water which the kids don't drink. Draft windows are easily replace, again not an exorbitant cost, and a leaky roof can be taken care of from the $4,000,000 capital reserve fund they have set aside. Crumbing masonry means you call in a mason and point up the brick, and could be done in house.
Lets face it, this whole project is to get the extra money to put in an un-necessary Marching Band Field ($23,000,000) and to name it after Goewey who was a member of the marching band in his youth. They have not mentioned the interest you will be paying on the principle of this bond which will be around $10,000,000 over the next 15 years, not counting the next Bonding issue to come up.
I found it interesting that Goewey stated" for a few dollars a month, the Oswego community has a chance to ensure that generation of future Buccaneers will have safe and comfortable environments for teaching and learning , as well as facilities that are comparable to surrounding districts in our region and that our students and community can be proud of". What he left out is that your tax bill will not be a few dollars a month, but will be over $2,200 a year for a $130,000 house, or $180 per month, which is ,your highest tax liability. With a declining enrollment down to 3,670 from 4,200 just a few years ago, and salaries for teachers and administration at the 5th highest in the state, it looks like it is time to start cutting salaries and teachers, as it takes less teachers to teach 530 less kids, and we need to reduce the number of schools we have. Yes they did reduce teachers in 2017, but added them back in in 2018, and pulled over $4,000,000 out of reserves to be able put the teachers back on. It cost It costs $22,572 per child to educate them each year and the costs are going to continue to increase.
To listen to Goewey, "we have to do it for the kids", which is their usual tugging of the heart strings comets, but in reality, it is for himself and getting his name on an extremely expensive and unjustified Marching Bucs Turf Field. If they continue to increase school taxes, those marginal households will be leaving the area and there will be less people to pay the taxes which will result in another tax increase.
It is time to take control. VOTE NO on March 6th and start replacing the people on the board in the May election, with individuals that understand budgets and how to reduce them, while still providing a quality education for Oswego's kids. Having a graduation rate of 72% in not acceptable! After all, it is about education, not marching bands!
                                                                                                                           February 8/18

Our city is falling apart
This mayor and his sidekick Kells are putting Oswego residents at risk. The streets in this city have been left neglected by not having adequate plows and the potholes will total your car, as there are a few that are more than a foot deep! Traffic is snarled, as cars are sliding in our streets and getting stuck on hills. Tractor trailers are struggling and sliding with full loads, as one nearly jack knifed on 104. The plows, remember the 3 shifts during 24hrs, are very few and the city streets show it. Someone is going to get hurt. Did the person who drove into the marina lawyer up yet?
                                                                                                                           February 8/18

Oswego made the list - as one of 47 worst school districts in Upstate New York, graded for 2018
OCSD you can kiss that 60 million bucks GOODBYE!!!
Oswego City School District (Oswego, Oswego County)
Students: 3,912
Student/teacher ratio: 13:1
Spending per student: $22,003
Overall grade: C
Percent proficient in math: 45%
Percent proficient in reading: 36%
Percent graduation rate: 75%


                                                                                                                           February 8/18

Kells your straight salt is really working really good isn't get some god dam sand down with the salt. Straight salt works on high ways with a lot of traffic not in the god dam city.

Mayor would you like to tell the people how much overtime you paid out last week. Three shifts 8 people on a shift that's two plows east and two plows west. So when we get a storm kells has to call in more people then when there shift is done kells is asking people to stay to cover the next shift coming on. So mayor show us were you save on overtime please. Wounded boy kells thinks he knows what He's doing. GOOD LUCK WITH HIM.

Hey tom how's your 3 shifts working out

Hey seiu 200 keep kells out of the loader He's taking work out of your hands keep letting him do it he will lay u off .

Wake up council do not change the charter for that Dumas's kells dpw employs do not want him there he has ruin so many life's.that's a vote that should go to the public in November.

Don't take it out on the workers for kells f--k up. Kells is the one that sucks
Kells taking care of his friends again hire a truck company Friday Jan 19 2018 to haul snow. BIG F--KING JOKE

Three plows west and one east that's working out real good for you kells NOT. Go home tonight put your head down on your pillow and think what you can come up with next dork.

I see kells taking care of his two big suck asses outing them on straight days keep going kells doing a hell of a Job. NOT.
                                                                                                                           February 8/18







Today's Quote February 7/2018

Advice is like snow - the softer it falls, the longer it dwells upon, and the deeper it sinks into the mind.

Samuel Taylor Coleridge


Way to go Trump! This is all yours and the GOP's! 

Dow Jones drops over 1,200 points in biggest daily points plunge in history!!!

                                                                                                                           February 7/18



60,180,000 School-Tax Proposition Vote

Attention Oswego City School District Tax Payers. It is of the utmost

importance that we "the tax payers" get out and vote next month on

this outrageous $60,180,000.00 Tax Proposition, as with what is now

being discussed among State Republicans about freezing School Tax

on our Senior Citizens and eventually ending the paying of these taxes

to the ones that could use the break more than anyone could imagine.

This would be great for our Seniors and I and many others would be

all for it. Should this happen, What would it do to everyone else's Tax?

Well you combine this increase with your $60,180,000.00 City School

improvements and when you see this future School Tax bill your first

thought will be "SELL! Not quite that easy Folks, Who the hell in their

right mind would want to buy in the Oswego City School District? Do

I really need to answer that? This is why I urge EVERYONE to get up

and to get out to vote next month on this $60,180,000.00 proposition!

You all know the Teachers will be out to vote, you have a pretty good

idea how they'll vote and I am sure most polling places will more than

likely be right there at the Schools, how convenient! The only way we

can offset the majority of these Teachers is to make yourself get out

there and vote unless you want to see those School Taxes going

up and up and up..... Please don't think about voting, DO IT!

                                                                                                                           February 7/18




Pennsylvania Republican Wants Democrats On State Supreme Court Impeached Over Gerrymandering Decision

                                                                                                                           February 7/18



Schoolboard not telling You !

  $ 60,000.000.00 x  arch fee ( %15 )  =  $9,000,000.00


    So if the state pays half,  the city school board stills pays $30,000,000.00 plus the $ 9,000,000.00 =  $  39,000,000.00  But wait, is there a cont. fund ? Which, not knowing that amount,  guessing (  $ 4,000,000.00 ) , this  amt. could  exceed, and i would guess , that there might be a $ 10, 000,000.00 act !


  So, in all talk, it could be  ( if the state kicks in there  $ 30,000,000.00 ) ,  The taxpayers pay $ 30,000,000.00 plus arch fees of  $ 9,000,000.00 plus  cont. fund ( hidden  over looks, dec concerns, epa over looks, new york state  missing  proper tax  revenue ,maintenance of fields, maintenance of the schools, which appears to be missing for the last 40 years ! Then there number should be  $ 49,000,000.00  that the taxpayers  will have to pay ! Of course, if there is  NO HIDDEN FEES !,


  How many schools are there ? If the number is seven, then there should be seven principals , seven vice - principals, end of story ! And transfer the bond off of leighton,  move the students to the other schools ( we are not short of busses )which would put the principals and vice -principals down to  six ( savings to taxpayers ) !






  Get the REAL numbers on student enrollment and the enrollment for the next twelve years ! Time to get rid of this  $ 250,000.00 ,plus benefits, per year , for his life and his wife, NOW

                                                                                                                           February 7/18



County Sees Sharp Increase In Flu Cases

                                                                                                                          February 7/18



Black Student Union at SUNY Oswego

Pall Times had a page 1 story about 50 yrs of the Black Student Union at SUNY.   I wonder if there is a white student union or would that be racist?

                                                                                                                          February 7/18




Anyone recognize this guy?
The guy in the photo is breaking into vehicles, and stealing the vehicles contents, Wine Creek, Beech Drive are...

                                                                                                                        February 2-3/18


2018 Common Council
Well ladies and gentelman of Oswego this is the council that Napolian Tom Kells bought and paid for so he could get the city charter changed to grab a ten year term as dpw head. The last council threw out the residentcy requirement so he could except his boughten job now this council will change the charter and do as their told and give him a nice fat ten year contract. Every one of them hand picked and checked to make sure that they'll tote the party line. I know that theirs a couple of Dems on their but they'll cheerfully do what their told to do just like the Dem that didn't seek reelection.

Tell your councilperson that your aware of this and demand that they do not consider this change. Of coarse they'll lie and say that it hasn't been brought up but its coming.

                                                                                                                       January 10-11/18


Bohrer A Marine??
If you read any of Bohrer own Heidi triangles writings. He insists he was a former marine.

                                                                                                                       January 1/18

Re: Death of Common Sense
Bohrer writes in his notes that were seized. Kiki, coke dealer. Kiki was a massive, larger than Bohrer drug dealer. Often running to none other than N.Y. city and back. His real names. Maximo Kiki Sanchez. Funny how he is arrested right after Heidi becomes a Ci and inbetween the time she vanishes. Highly dangerous, a criminal record longer than Oakes and Dodds lies. Its obvious Bohrer is linked to him, notes him in his Heidi Triangle book. But yet the Sheriff's play dumb on who he is. Maybe that's why Fulton PD brought him down in 93. So is this the man everyone seemed to fear? Including Heidi? Kiki is the only coke dealer listed in any notes, papers or documents anywhere. Its logical to lean towards YES it's quit possible. Seeing as the CI who did bring him down was also terrified of this man. Anyone hear of this fella before?

                                                                                                                       January 1/18

Funny Bohrer indeed has this man's name in his paper work. Funny the man's a coke dealer that word pops Up a lot in this.

Jail term
OSWEGO — Maximo "KikT
Sanchez, 39, of 149 E. Cayuga St.,
—Qswego. was sentenced Monday in
County Court on charges of thirddegree
criminal sale of a controlled
substance and third-degree criminal
possession of a controlled
Sanchez was sentenced by Judge
John Elliou to a maximum of nine
years, minimum of three years in
Elmira State Correctional Facility.
He was also assessed a $155
surcharge. , • <
Sanchez was originally indicted
on 22 drug-related charges. According
to court documents, Sanchez
possessed and sold .87 grams of
cocaine for $80 while at his residence.
He also sold 1.07 grams of
cocaine on March 13 at his residence,
according to court
On Jan. 15 Sanchez sold 2.60
cocaine on Jan. 20, according tocourt
records. On Jan. 23 he allegedly
possessed 4.52 grams of
cocaine. _^ —
                                                                                                                       January 1/18

Today's Quote December 27/2017

'Tis not enough to help the feeble up, but to support them after.
William Shakespeare

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Someone posted about NYS investigating the Thibodeau case.....NOT TRUE
                                                                                                                        December 27/17

Smithsonian report for evidence in Heidi's case

                                                                                                                        December 27/17

Yep, tourism is the answer over a 52 a week jobs !
                                                                                                                        December 27/17






Please post the report from the Smithsonian Department of Anthropology regarding the evidence for the Heidi Allen case.

Couple questions:

Did the FBI agent that testified for the defense, Christopher Allen, read this document out loud during Gary's trial? And what does "but there are no morphological details that suggest a human origin." mean?

Also, why didn't the Defense call in a cremation specialist or have any kind of expert in human body disintegration?

One simple question to the FBI agent, who gave a partial true answer, and there is the belief that Heidi (could have) was burned in an outside burn barrel/pit.

What did the inmate supposedly tell Gary...that teeth don't burn? Jurors, you believed the inmates testimony, so.....why weren't TEETH found or reported by the Smithsonian? **slapping forehead** That's right, the Thibodeau's sifted through the burnt material, removing only what was human bone but leaving the burnt bone material that was what they testified to...animal bones, specifically chicken (as testified). Just like they must have had plastic in the van when Heidi was taken to justify no DNA in Richard's van. Right Dodd....the "cleaning" of the van...that In Fact happened AFTER the April 9, 1994 complete forensic exam of the van. Dodd.........the jurors could make up theories with no evidence but they didn't have the higher thinking that because there was no evidence pointing to the DA's and Sheriff's theory being correct that, In Fact, it makes the theories INCORRECT?

HHmmmm, they must have had their man then even though nothing truthfully fits.? The timeline doesn't fit with Richards movements the morning of April 3, 1994. No DNA evidence fits with a violent struggle taking place in the van. Verifiable alibi witnesses don't fit with Richard and Gary being together on April 3, 1994-Gary's adult neighbors witnesses didn't even ID Richards van at Gary's on April 3, 1994. No teeth or any other positive human remains were on Gary's property, via negative indications from multiple cadaver dogs on Gary's property and the Smithsonian report. "everyone would agree that Heidi wouldn't leave the store unattended". Then why do some people believe the inmates when they testified that Gary and Richard took Heidi to near Gary's while she was working alone?

Come on jurors...if you had known about Dan Barney being listed as "probably suspect" or that Michael Bohrer had been interviewed by the FBI and OCSD was competent to get his criminal past in 1995, would that have tipped the scales for you to acquit because the DA did not prove anything "beyond a reasonable doubt".

Merry Christmas Gary and Richard and all your family. Praying for Justice and Peace and Repentance and Healing for All Involved.
                                                                                                                        December 24/17

“no morphological details” Basically that means there was nothing, ie. ash, particles, cells, DNA molecules, smell or spirit that was human in origin. The bit about burning the body in a stove was as reliable as the rest of

the snitches story.

Reply to 3 Amigos
I read back in 2014 that someone said that a woman ( worked as a law clerk I believe) caught two guys in lies at the store.

1. Deputy that got flagged down said that he had to go follow the van...but according to this story, NO ONE MENTIONED A VAN!!!

Is it true , I don't know, as I thought he stayed there and called it in and inspected the area etc.

Also Sue Rodems died of a heart attack....what caused it...unknown, unless you believe the BS in Fulton.
                                                                                                                        December 21/17



How Coincidental

Richard Thibodeau attorney, called the jail house snitches Agents. Said they were working for the dept. Funny one snitch McDonald arrives inside Mass Jail the same day as Richards arrest for Heidi and Garys May arrest for Mass Jail. How odd, May 25th, 1994. National missing kids day. How sick. Sick DA Office. Even sicker sheriff dept.

                                                                                                                        December 21/17



Huge Mistake by Sheriffs

Wednesday July 27, 1994. The Herald Journal released the snitches statements. This is the issue. How did the Sheriffs obtain on the 27th Baldasaro statement dated July 31, 1994. Sheriffs made a mistake. Baldasaro never signed until 4 days after the Herald aired his written statement? Huge set up Dodd? On July 23, 1994 Dodd calls the snitches a mannia from Heaven. Unless you have ESP, or can time travel in the future Dodd, on the 23nd, 27th, Baldasaro had not written any statement. Talk about a huge set up. Huge mistake by releasing Baldasaro statement 4 days early. Would leave anyone asking how the hell Dodd knew on the 22nd about Baldasaro statement when it wasn't yet signed. Heres the proof. Ill tell you how Dodd. You set Gary up. Did not on July 23 yet have Baldasaro as a witness. The more you compare dates the more Dodds story doesn't add up. Its obvious they set Gary up intentionally was in contact witn these snitches the entire time. On June 29, 94 they siezed Garys stove. How funny it is a month later. Dodds witnesses fell from the sky claiming Gart burned Heidi in a wood stove again Dodd did your ass time travel to know in a month God was gonna drop 2 witnesses on your lap that claim the same theory with the stove you have?? How funny you sieze the stove. Then a month later seem to have witnesses to back up your lies. Total set up. You sneaky sob.




                                                                                                                        December 21/17

Today's Quote December 20/2017

Money? How did I lose it? I never did lose it. I just never knew where it went.

Edith Piaf

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
The AG office must follow procedures and writing a letter ( if true) to inform Lisa about what is going to is slow moving.

I hope the person that posted.."I got a phone call from one of the guys towing a trailer that VanPatten called for the hit" telling the truth.

They will probably have a hotline you can call and not give your name. If you KNOW something and it's true please let them know. It's too late for them to do anything violent as it will open up more avenues.

Please step up and do the right thing.
                                                                                                                        December 20/17

3 Amigos...
Good question. Also, does anyone know which sheriff's deputy had his/her patrol car parked for years permanently just down the hill from the D&W for years in a private driveway on 104? I always thought this was very strange.
                                                                                                                        December 20/17

3 Amigos
When Heidi came up missing....
Curtis left the store to follow pursuit....correct?
(Maybe) he was leaving the scene with Heidi in the back seat. The van might had pulled in for business, seen "something" happening, and left. Curtis now leaves with Heidi.
Anyone ever check out the cops cars for DNA.
Didn't Curtis get a new car shortly after that?
More questions!
                                                                                                                        December 19/17

State Attorney General's Office

OSWEGO, N.Y. -- "The state Attorney General's Office has begun investigating whether all evidence in the 1994 abduction of Heidi Allen in Oswego County was turned over to lawyers for the man convicted of kidnapping her.

The AG's Conviction Review Bureau filed papers this week in the Oswego County Clerk's office revealing the state prosecutors' involvement for the first time.

Assistant Attorney General Gail Heatherly, chief of the review bureau, wrote a letter last month to Thidobeau's lawyers and to prosecutors saying her office was involved "in the hope that the discovery provided and the investigation performed in this 20-year-old case is as complete as is humanly possible."

The documents include a request to local law enforcement agencies for any reports related to the case, and the police agencies' responses."


Whoppie Sh!t They wrote a letter asking the most corrupt county in the state to play fair.

                                                                                                                        December 18/17

Doj, FBI, attorney General. When have you seen them ever in upstate NY help on any case other than Doyle's? They are wondering how to save the state millions in a law suit. Pretty sick they stand on the side lines. Do NOTHING but get involved in a case State Police could have handled on their own (Doyle). Garys case, they snub their noses to it. Both attorney general and FBI are a Waiste of tax payers money. Neither dept, has done shit. It does not matter what you've seen, heard or report, they've watched this case unfold, have done NOTHING to intervene. Lisa works for DOJ. Instead the FBI up there, fiddles with pathetic cases like Doyle, to do with a teen kid, not a homocide. Heidi is null n void to them. Along with Gary. Political powers do one thing. Cover the asses of other political powers. Attorney Generals a joke. And lied to the public. They NEVER investigated. It was a lie and a farce to look good in the public eye. FBI have had 23 years to also do their job. Only one who seems to know how to do their job is Lisa.
                                                                                                                        December 15-16/17

Gary Thibodeau.....The Death Of Common Sense
I have always wondered what Mr. Swenkowski was thinking when the verdict came back as GUILTY! He saw him...alone, watched him leave...alone and never saw a kidnapping or Gary while he was there. Now I wonder just what the hell the jury was thinking...if anything at all.

I have always wondered what Mr. Stinson is thinking about how some people may ask how did you NOT see anything? You stated you were there from approx. 7:38 to 7:55 and flagged down a cop. But you stated that you never saw anyone or any cars. I have always wondered.....WHY or HOW.

I have always wondered why Mr. Biven's testimony is all over the place. The time, description of the van, description of the kidnappers ( not at all fitting the two brothers physical apperance ), changing his mind on the van he saw in and out of court. And how could you not see that a girl struggling didn't need your help?

I always wondered why Oakes' MA story was proven false (in court) but nothing was ever done about it.

I always wondered hoe Dodd could have even taken them to court without ANY evidence or witness that puts them there.

I always wondered about the cash register time, money and testimony.

I always wondered why after Jen Westcott failed a poly about a taped phone call, then went back in and said she was told what happened to Heidi and mentioned a WHITE van at the house she said she never lived at and the OCSD did nothing. Also telling the cops.."after 20 years I still have to tell you there were 2 vans?

I always wondered how, why and when the OCSD decided to frame Gary T. Was it years later after they knew he was innocent and someone ( maybe a politician ) said to him we don't need a law suit ( just my opinion).

I always wondered why these were not means for more investigation: Jen Westcott stories, Deputy lying on the stand, evidence withheld,, Oakes telling Lisa P. that he didn't have very much confidence in INTEGRITY of the OCSD investigation and all the other things that makes people think...COVER UP!

I am still wondering if the FBI is coming to town, God knows they all gave enough lopsided info and failed to continue a still open case.

I wonder what the FBI, DOJ and the NYS Atty General's council is...well WONDERING!
                                                                                                                        December 15-16/17

Ding Dong. You’re wrong….Oaks
Steen was “likely falsely boasting”. Based on what FACTS? Did he pass a lie detector? What about 3 cadaver dog indications near an area similarly described by his “boasting”? What about Bohrer? Was he given a test, too? And it didn’t concern you that he knew and had so much information from around the time of the disappearance? He certainly didn’t get it from social media and I highly doubt the documents he DID have were available to the public even BEFORE Gary’s trial.
Here, Oaks, is a high five to start you on your way to Investigation 101.
                                                                                                                        December 13/17

Ozwego County
The cops – lawyers – doctors – politicians in Ozwego County have abused – raped - and killed more women in this county then anybody would ever imagine. Gary was lucky he only got jail.
                                                                                                                        December 12/17





3 Amigos
Years back. A man named Sirgibbs sat in the court room. Watching Garys case unfold. He posted some pretty intelligent posts. He tells you. There are 3 connections that OCSD didnt want you to link together. That 3 would go to the dirty cop cokers house. That 2 knew, 2 really KNEW, he writes.
Funny how Vanpatten, Curtis, Petrowski hang at Curtis house over the years. Dirty cop cokers house must be Curtis, the 2 who Knew, really KNEW was petrowski and Vanpatten. Can it be proven. Yes. It can be proven by eye witnesses.
Matter of fact. Curtis was petrowski mentor lol per say.
So you have the lead investigator stealing texts messages between 2 persons of interest. Makes complete sense now. Why this entire case has gone in the direction it has.
The officer whom dropped the cards, buddies to lead investigator now, also friends to same cop whom exposed Heidi and Curtis just happened to be driving by minutes after Heidi disappeared.
You 3 corrupt amigos belong in prison.
                                                                                                                       December 8/17

ocsd and da corruption
sue boullard knew everything that was going on with the drug dealing, extorsion, embezeling and sexual harassment in the district attorneys office and sheriff’s department.She wasn’t afraid to call them on it and she ended up in the river at the same spot where they dumped Carol wood. Heidi was on the inside working with that slime and she just vanishes. Several women got too close to that bunch and ended up dead unexpectedly. A lot of the dirty money was being laundered through columbia savings and loan and fulton savings and probably still is.
                                                                                                                       December 8/17

Special Deputies
Beside the drug trade ands rasping women motorists it is a wonder they found any time to protect and serve.You know that is why the Sheriff and the DA are so dead set against a new trial for Gary. They don’t want the truth and the OCSDs involvement in Heidis disappearance to come out in the light of day. Are you out of your ever lovin? No but you sure as hell are Todd.
                                                                                                                       December 7/17

The Oswego/Co.rt 1 Halloween wagon
Hey Kells,
Did anyone else notice that the little Halloween hayride wagon now sits at the east end of the Dpw fenced in area. That seems to me like he should be reprimanded for that stunt.
The problem is that when little billy has his dough wagon out there for the festivities this makes him an accomplice. I cannot believe this blatant b.s. Is still allowed after all the bullshit this city has gone through.
I drive by Kells house everyday. If I see him plowing his driveway I will stop and introduce myself to him. Have some guts folks. This is our money these people are spending. Hold these people accountable and make them pay with losing their jobs.
Let's get moving on taking control of a city that has never had accountability. We do have outside resources that can help. Call the A.G's office , call the congress person, call the Nys comptroller and see who to talk to due to misuse of municipal money.

Signed, I'm watching

                                                                                                                       December 7/17

Re: sleezy lawyers
The same ones always seemed to be there, the Hawthornes, Eby, Cieszeski and Todd. Not one real lawyer in the bunch.
                                                                                                                       December 7/17

Sexual Blackmail In Oswego County
In the 90s RT 57 South of Fulton was prime hunting for the Fulton Cops and the County Sheriffs.
Women getting out of work at Miller and Owens were prime targets of these sexual predators. Some of them recorded the harassment by officers and deputies and confronted District Attorney James Grose. Grose smashed the recorder in front of them and threatened them should they ever bring up that subject again.
It didn’t end there. Women who didn’t put out were given tickets for loud mufflers, tail lights out or doing 37 MPH in a 35 MPH zone. Then there was a host of sleezy lawyers waiting to represent them for you guessed it sex.
                                                                                                                       December 6/17

Reply Moe Todd
Laugh away. Every one I know is laughing at them. The public knows the truth, no matter how much they lie. Facts are facts. No matter the lies. It can never change that fact.
                                                                                                                       December 6/17

I know for a fact. One deputy followed the bartender from Williamstown home one night after she closed up the bar. Yes the choice was sex or dwi. She is very vocal about this incident. Its called sexual harrassement, entrapment, the list goes on. It started with oral sex on the road. He then followed her back to her place. Mean while he was on duty and we tax payers are paying for this nasty shit. Ill get his name but to the officer whom did this. Her intials are TM, and Im certain you are well aware of who you are...Oakes will deny...deny...deny..everyones a liar but OCSD, DA office. Instead of him seeing hes surrounded by pigs, literally. He thinks hes surrounded by heros. He couldn't be any dumber.
                                                                                                                       December 6/17

Special Deputies
One of the biggest jokes in Oz was the daughter Jack Obey fathered in lieu of a speeding ticket. Its not just the nineties. that sh!t goes on every day in this county by every law enforcement agency
                                                                                                                       December 6/17



Re: Gosek Recording
You people on here are a joke. You think those dumb Polacks that elected thos to Goseks care about there sex crimes. If the old man ran for mayor again he would get elected. Oswego is just as f**ked up as they are. The kid is a teacher. What a perfect person to be involved with children.
                                                                                                                       December 5/17

Re: Moe Todds Special Deputies
Hope the women who were taken advantage of by these disgusting men had the where-with-all to get STD tested after their encounter. Wonder if their wife/girlfriend had any idea just how sickening their loved one was or is De Nile the River in Egypt?
CDC, was there an epidemic of oral Herpes in Oswego during the time period of these allegations?
“Smear campaign by the Defense”. LOL, Mr. Oakes. Appears your buddies smeared……before any of the outside world even knew!! ** Dang, I just thought they were incompetent at their jobs. Must reconsider in light of the new accusation.** But yet these are some of the a&$holes that are trusted by some in the community?!?! I wonder though, how adept are some people at being two-faced?
I apologize. I know I shouldn’t laugh at the…..expense of others.
                                                                                                                       December 5/17

Special Deputies And Special Judges.
My neighbor had her kids taken by DSS. Two weeks later she got them back. Her words “ all I had to do was blow the family court judge”.
                                                                                                                       December 5/17

The judges and attorneys have been preying on the women and young boys of this county for half a century. It is time for them to speak out.
                                                                                                                       December 5/17







Today's Quote December 4/2017

She plucked from my lapel the invisible strand of lint (the universal act of woman to proclaim ownership.
O. Henry

Moe Todds Special Deputies
In the early Nineties Under Sheriff Moe Todd gave dash mount strobe lights to ADA Don Dodd and ADA Don Todd so they could make citizens arrests. How it worked was they would follow women home from local bars and pull them over for suspicion of drunk driving. Some got a stiff warning others had to service the stiff end of the law.

                                                                                                                       December 4/17
Just when you think you have heard it all.

State Police Arrest Reports 07/06/2008

Louis E. Sorendo, 51, of 21 Ellen St., Oswego
On 07/06/08, Louis E. Sorendo, age 51, of 21 Ellen St., Oswego, NY, was arrested by the New York State Police ââ‚Âââ‚Å“ Syracuse for Unlawful Possession of Marijuana after being stopped for a seat belt violation at the Verona interchange (exit # 33) of the Thruway.
Mr. Sorendo was released to appear in the Town of Verona court.
                                                                                                                       December 4/17


Shower Room Banter

Federal inmate #1: Hey Leroy, remember that child molester Gosek that came through here back in 2006? He was some of the best lovin I had on the inside but he was always crying so I had to put a bag over his head.

Federal inmate 2: Yeah Bubba, he was ok but I would rather do his son. I’d like to throw a flag over his little a$$ and do him for god and country.

Hinder Grinder
                                                                                                                    December 2/17

Bobby Baldasaro
Has anyone besides Dodd seen the notes about Bobby?

HHmmm. A report from Florida probation says they recommend that his probation be revoked and "2 years community control for closer supervision". Notes show that a governors warrant was issued for him. They were going to hold him up in MA so he can testify in NY "then we can justify putting him back on probation". What? He got probation for testifying in NY.

Damn, and I thought it was testified to that neither inmate received any benefit for testifying.?!

It's all in black and white...Bobby did.


                                                                                                                    November 27/17


Grab your ankles Oswego....
If everyone thinks they don't have any X-mas $$$ leftover now once paying that f'n disastrous water/sewer bill then hang on's going up to $315/qtr. come February so you really won't have any f'n $$$ remaining to do anything with...including eating! Oh, and wasn't a screwdriver that killed the old man on Mitchell St. many years was a f'n icepick & the local police have made it known! HMMM!!!
                                                                                                                    November 27/17

Bivens and criminal witnesses
LOL...."disinterested witnesses" we found credible? Like who?

Bivens was obviously lying about something....many different police statements, pleading the 5th during trial about the false insurance claim form.

Ms. Montgomery...

Mr. Neville Jr....

The Cowen's knowing Bivens....

The store owner, "family friend", finding the CI card but testifying to not "warning" Heidi's family.....

That Sturtz woman "we kept it a secret" that Heidi was IN FACT a CI....

Please post the documents about Baldasaro getting a reduced sentence on recommendation for his NY testimony.

Deputy Wheeler lying under oath. Dodd refusing to give "the entire" OCSD case file as per repeated arguments against turning over documents and "finding" Heidi case evidence "in the garage" in the 11th hour.

BUT....this was a good arrest, good conviction. LMAO Todd, Dodd, guys can't be that ignorant!?? You guys are sick mother___ that have turned a missing young woman from your community into a trivial, cya occurrence.

Sad that Heidi's own loving sister can't comprehend what is written in black and white. I would not rest, even after all these years, if Heidi was my sister, daughter, close cousin, close friend. Pray that more people speak the truth for Justice for Heidi and Gary....Shame on All You Liars/Deceivers.

Heidi was/is important even if one has given up hope for finding the Truth!!

Have you seen Bivens' Facebook page? Some kind of Christian to violate one of God's Laws...."Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor". Praise God that those who violate HIS laws will be properly Judged and Punished. Eternity is a long time, if you're a believer.
                                                                                                                    November 27/17

Re: IP address
What are they worried about unless what is posted can be proven?

Some accusations are false...but others are true.

I am willing to bet that most of what is posted about the Heidi Allen case is a FACT that can be proven from written documentation.

NO INTEGRITY and NO MORALS. Ya'll should resign. Along with the other crooked Oswego government officials.

Keep Speaking and vote the vermin out!! Research your candidates. Talk to the candidates and other constituents. Thank you to ALL who don't give up! "WE the People" are stronger than them.
                                                                                                                    November 27/17

Threats and intimidation are how these people stay in control and out of jail. When they become too much of a liability they get thrown under the buss like Dumbsmor did to Gosek.

Water Bills 2018
They are raising the water bills from $275 to $315. Are you f<{king me. Barlow sure has BS everyone in this dump city. Giving money to all his friends and stealing money from everyone else. How does he expect the seniors on fixed incomes to pay for this ..This city government has gone right in the toilet Barlow if you read this. You and your government are idiots ..
                                                                                                                    November 27/17







Today's Quote November 26/2017

Glory, built on selfish principles, is shame and guilt.
William Cowper

This Bivens???
This Bivens? Are you talking this Bivens. Are you identifying the DA main witness as a past prime suspect in the odd death of an old man? If so whats this old mans name? Easy way to find that out. Unless of course the Sheriffs disposed of his past crimes, I wouldnt doubt in exchange for his testimony?? One could make that assumption. If so, Dodds more Devil than the real devil. Sick....this entire case the more you stop and smell the roses, you notice those gorgeous roses smell like shit. The stench is coming from OCSD and the DA Office.
How would one confirm all those things?? Anyone have any proof of the Bivens claims posted on here?
                                                                                                                    November 26/17

Is the Bivens referenced in the Heidi Allen story the same Bivens that drove taxi for Horan's in the 80s? If so he has quite a shady reputation to start with. He was arrested for false imprisonment of a teenage girl in the back seat of his cab, he refused to let her out until she agreed to have sex with him! He also robbed an old lady on rt 48,Mrs Cahill on 3 seperate occasions and was a suspect in the suspicious death of an old man on Mitchell St who was found dead at the bottom of his stairs with a screwdriver through his skull. The same police investigating the Heidi Allen case determined that death to be accidental. lol
                                                                                                                    November 25/17




Reply to Bivens
I've read on Bivens also before but its the first time I've ever really sat down and compared his stories and his multitude of changed statements, his confusing descriptions and changes he added to the van, he even changed the vans location at the store, from between the pumps to the outside of the pumps. Bivens, is certified, in my opinion, up to no good. I never knew he gave the make and model of the vehicle. Not every ones from the Oswego area. So obtaining transcripts arent easy for outsiders. Ty for sharing that. To me Bivens pleading the 5th, tells me a lot. Seems a pretty good ammount of Oakes side uses the 5th like it means nothing. To me the 5th typically, tells anyone, besides numb nuts Oakes. They've got something to hide. You are only to use that line if it will incriminate yourself. By using the 5th, to me, they did just that. Bivens is a con, simple as that.
                                                                                                                    November 23/17






Okay, this will clear up all the confusion Mr. Bivens created with his lies.

Say hello to Mr. Christopher Bivens, the DA eye witness. This photo tell anyone anything?

                                                                                                                    November 22/17


I had a C 10 pickup back in the 70s and always thought the vans were C 10 too. I just never cared or looked that close to see that the "C" was actually a "G". Now reading his statement I see a lot more than has been talked about before. H said he recognized the van from the rust over the wheels and the bumper that hung down and a trailer hitch. He claimed he didnt stop because he didnt want to get involved.


Driving down a major highway in slush and snow he sees a woman struggling with a man and he still is observant enough to note rust, a crooked bumper and a trailer hitch yet the description of the man did not fit either of the Thibodeau brothers and the pictures of the van below show very little rust over the wheels.


A more likely story would be he observed a woman and a man in what he thought might be a domestic dispute and just kept going. Later he learned of the missing store clerk and began to feel bad about not stopping so he called the OCSD. Even though his original description of the van did not fit the Thibodeaus or there van the sherrifs show him a picture of Richards van an he then decided that was the one.

                                                                                                                    November 22/17

Bivens' Testimony C-10 Van
The fact it may have been a light blue C-10 van was given in Bivens' testimony. It's not that hard to find, guys.

                                                                                                                       November 21/17

Richard's van
Here's how these g, c things work for Chevy. There is no such thing as a c10 van. Ever. C10 is a pickup truck. GM had letter names for their body styles.
C - 2 wheel drive pickup
K - 4 wheel drive
G - van
The 10 means 1/2 ton, 20 3/4 ton, 30 1 ton. Bohrer drove a 1976, G20 3/4 ton.
                                                                                                                       November 21/17

C10 van huh...
How the hell would you know the van they are looking for is a c10 Chevy van? Maybe you need a knock on your door. No where does it say ever Bohrer had a Chevy c10. But your dead on. That's a fact you shouldn't and wouldn't know. Its not mentioned or documented anywhere.

                                                                                                                       November 19/20/17

C10 huh...
Richard's vans a 1976, which would make it a G10, G20, G30 series. Here are the 1976 specs from Chevy for the 1976 year. So no the c10 series was never, not once listed anywhere in any one of the witnesses statements, court documents, records. Not one person ever described the van as a white or blue c10-CHEVY. Bivens stated ,"I THINK it was a Chevy, van. FROM 1979-1986." The MAKE AND MODEL is not listed anywhere, as a definite . Not even in Bivens statements. So the c10 Is not a fact and isn't relevant. Because a 1976, is a G SERIES MODEL. All that's ever said is they witnessed a white, off white or blue van. Where you came up with a c10 is beyond me.


                                                                                                                    November 19/20/17


Murtaugh comments:
As a matter of fact I do on my way to new haven now had a nice road trip to fernwood too wink emoticon
Posted on Judge to prosecutor in Heidi Allen case: You missed chance to respond to wrongful conviction claim
9/18/2014 9:42 AM

Omg please no mistake we (3 of us) picked up two vans at gt house ... Me roger & a 3rd person picked up a dift van in fern wood I can't tell you where it was but I'm sure I can drive right to there like I did last week going to Gary's house ( that I had only been to twice before in the 90's
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:25 PM

It was a red house is all we can remember
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:17 PM

I'm sorry I don't I'd just be guessing but one of my helpers just asked me if I remember going to fern wood to get a white van at 1st didn't remember but after talking a bit I do now
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:08 PM

No in fern wood ( I think that's how you spell it
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:05 PM

Omg I don't know I just remember him coming to me wanting me to pick one up for him .. Never gave it much thought till tonight talking it over with my staff
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 10:55 PM

You all ready for this one ????? I do remember going with RB to fern wood to pick up a white van that he had to junk back around same time of the ha deal
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 10:52 PM

Tina Bennett Fighting For Fathers Rights
How much time do you think she will spend on your case when she devotes half of her TV commercial to taking shots at her ex husband and his family.
                                                                                                                    November 19/20/17


Richard murtaugh @rmroutlaw · Jan 14

#heidiallen after 20 plus years this is the best they can come up with? & it all started from towing a van that was never at Gary's .. Joke

                                                                                                                    November 19/20/17

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Swenkowski, Richard, Jenn Westcott, Bivens, Stinson, OCSD, DAs...and of course Gary:

Why didn't Swenkowski's testimony about seeing RT leave the store alone carry any weight?
RT walked out and HA was in the store when he left
Stinson walked in and NO HEIDI????? So what happened after Senkowski and RT left? What exact time was Bivens there? His story is confusing...why? Simple question and a simple answer...cover up?
Bivens saw the kidnapping, RT, Swenkowski, Stinson were there a little before it happened, did anyone see another person after they left?
Caught in so many lies in still an open case, why wasn't her stories followed up?
I simply don't believe Jenn Westcott......Oakes. Why not? You offered her immunity, must have believed it then,
and after she failed a poly and then said in a second meeting that she was told about what happened to HA, said "they brought her in a WHITE VAN"'re right Mr. Oakes you shouldn't believe her. But part of LE is to pick apart lies and to follow up if you think it may lead somewhere. You guys did nothing of the sort. WHY NOT???

Everyone but you guys think it was a good start.
What PROOF did you have that GT was NOT home at the time of the crime. Did you check for foot prints in the snow at his house? Anyone see him at the store...NOPE. But you Dodd convinced a jury that he was there even if the description didn't fit the brothers.

Did you use a line up before the case? Never heard that you did. Is that standard police work in an investigation or is it a way to cover up and convict an innocent man? No line up ...hmmmm.

Why was your story about RT going to MA with HA in the trunk, destroyed in court by two deputies? Is that a lie or just another run around the outside and hope for the best. And you searched the car and found nothing.
Were Stinson, Bivens and Swenkowski given polygraphs?

If it happened T 7:42 am and Bivens saw it then Swenkowski, Stinson should have seen it too because RT left and Swenkowski said he waited for him to back out as he packed his cigarettes in his car.

With all these things pointing to innocent of the brothers, why didn't you look at other people? Did you have a hunch at who they may be? Did you ask neighbors of MB, Steen and Roger if they saw them leave early in the morning? Roger's wife said he did. There's a start and you again failed in your investigation....intentionally?

Lies for deputies on the stand, Jenn W. telling you what you needed to hear, witnesses did not id RT's van, just the opposite, they said (as your star witness Bivens said at first) that it wasn't RT's van.

Have you read any of the comments in the paper or on the web as we have uncovered a lot of loose ends in this case?

Do you guys sleep well at night, when the demons come into your mind. Wouldn't you like to have it stop? What an awful feeling, night after night and now you have the FBI to worry about and they are very serious people.

First one to give states evidence walks and all others will be put in prison!

                                                                                                                    November 19/20/17

Van Picture
The van in the picture is a Ford Econoline not a Chevy C-10. Don’t know if that C-10 description is relevant or not; just pointing out a fact
                                                                                                                            November 18/17

Fernwood Feed Mill Van
The picture is a little fuzzy, but the Fernwood Feed Mill van looks to be a darker blue than the van at Manwaring and Route 3. Also, the rear side windows are different (the lighter blue van has circular windows). It would be worth a shot for John O'Brien (who switched careers and is now an investigator with Peebles) to look into the history of this van. We all know Richard's van should have been returned to him a long time ago.

                                                                                                                            November 18/17

Sounds like Greg Aka the DA, that there's some big boys knocking on doors. It's not your buddies the Sheriffs. Sounds like your screwed. Did you truly think your Sheriffs had full jurisdiction. Not when it comes to corrupt politicians. It's not the Sheriffs making their rounds. It's officers with integrity.
                                                                                                                            November 18/17


D&W store front
How in the heck could Richard have fit his van between the pump and Mr. Swenzkowki’s car to park in front of him if Mr. Swenzkowski arrived first? OR was Richard IN FACT telling the truth about parking BEHIND Mr. Swenzkowski per his statements?!! Hmmm, believe a witness who was not given a lie detector test, that we know of, or believe someone who WE KNOW passed a test?!
                                                                                                                            November 17/17


Lisa P. Email

                                                                                                                            November 17/17

People of OZ
(315) 701-0080 Lisa Peebles. Feel free to call her office.

                                                                                                                            November 17/17

Gary the Innocent Video utube


Please share this, it's Gary's song in a video.
Law, won't you let that free man go... Twenty years of himself on a sheriff's shelf, He's been murdered one day at a time. The key that she's held, still she lives with herself -- The truth lies behind those cold blue eyes. The call she made shook up decades Of giving up on hope and life A murderer stands next to me, next to you As we wait in the grocery line. Law, won't you let that free man go. Law, won't you let that free man go. Way down in Oswego County Somebody done collected his bounty. Law, won't you let that free man go. His case was sealed from an inside deal He was sleeping away in his cell. They buried his sisters, mother, and wife, Insisting a personal hell. Will the truth be told from the ones who know Or the ones who have brushed it away. Pry back the boards and show us all toward The free man walking away.Law, won't you let that free man go. Law, won't you let that free man go. Free of guilt but still in prison, Hope of truth this mornin' risen. Law, won't you let that free man go. Law, won't you let that free man go. Law, won't you let that free man go. Free that man that's been forsaken Give him back the life we've taken. Law, won't you let that free man go.
                                                                                                                            November 17/17

No one knows what to believe. The FBI has had 4 years to help this case. To bring charges against them. Instead they are focused on Doyle. If Gary dies. I'm sure the suspects are praying to God he does. They will walk Scott free. Totally disgusting. Oakes claims to be a man of God, Greg will be one of the ones he says Go away. I do not know you. He is nothing more than a criminal for obstructing justice.
                                                                                                                            November 17/17

Jennifer Wescott was given immunity from prosecution for lying on her police statements....Would all deals be off if the Feds charge her with perjury for lying under oath, in a Court of Law?
                                                                                                                            November 17/17

Keystone Pipeline Leaks 5,000 Barrels Of Oil In South Dakota, TransCanada Says

                                                                                                                            November 17/17


Old Chevy C-10 Light blue van with dark blue doors on Route 3
I didn't get a picture driving by, but it is on Google Maps - taken Oct. 2013
There's a light blue Chevy C-10 van on State Route 3 in between Pulaski and Mexico - with dark blue doors - parked on a side lawn of a property in between Pulaski and Mexico on State Route 3 van before them. Not too many of them that look similar to RT's around, especially in Oswego County. . You can easily see it from the road. It's on the left-hand side if you're heading west (toward Mexico). It looks to be around the same year as RT's, but more closely matches the description of some witnesses. It would be interesting to see who the property owner is or who owned the before them. Not too many of them that look similar to RT's around, especially in Oswego County.
I didn't get a picture driving by, but it is on Google Maps - taken Oct. 2013

                                                                                                                            November 16/17

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
To re to me.....

If someone didn't call in for a sandwich then they got it just before HA was taken. HAD to be after 7:42 am after Richard was seen leaving ALONE!!! ( last customer but not the last one to see her alive)

Can anyone find a statement from anyone, including the OCSD that doesn't seem suspicious or looks like a lie?
Does anyone really think the FBI believes any of this child like lies and a Person there at the time of crime but didn't see anything. If Swenkowski was there and saw Richard, then the 7:42 am time is correct...has to be.

Did the person who said he got a call that said "VanPatten ordered the hit" ever tell that to anyone on this case?

VanPatten said there was going to be a big bust and put a "girl" to be used into it. Were there any other female CIs at this time? Why would a cop shoot his mouth off about a bust..THAT NEVER HAPPENED!!!!!?????

Heidi was a CI and Oakes and any other LE, DA, lawyer that says she wasn't is a liar. But why lie? To cover up a unlawful arrest, sale of coke by "others", help those that took her get away with it? The only reason you got away with HA NOT being a CI is because Judge King made sure of it. Signed card, code name, picture, other cops testifying to it...but no she wasn't a CI.

I don't know how you got away with it but I will tell you that if anyone ever did that to me, they better move far away before I get out...this is disgusting and it doesn't even seem to bother you at all. But maybe the FBI can get states evidence if they investigate this joke of an investigation. DOES IT BOTHER YOU GUYS THAT A VERY IMPORTANT MAN WAS IN THE 2014 COURT ROOM AND WHAT HE SAID? Start Sweating.
                                                                                                                            November 16/17

Lisa Peebles
Would anyone know her direct email or if she has appointments available where Oz people can go to speak to her?
                                                                                                                            November 16/17

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
To re to me.....

If someone didn't call in for a sandwich then they got it just before HA was taken. HAD to be after 7:42 am after Richard was seen leaving ALONE!!! ( last customer but not the last one to see her alive)

Can anyone find a statement from anyone, including the OCSD that doesn't seem suspicious or looks like a lie?
Does anyone really think the FBI believes any of this child like lies and a Person there at the time of crime but didn't see anything. If Swenkowski was there and saw Richard, then the 7:42 am time is correct...has to be.

Did the person who said he got a call that said "VanPatten ordered the hit" ever tell that to anyone on this case?

VanPatten said there was going to be a big bust and put a "girl" to be used into it. Were there any other female CIs at this time? Why would a cop shoot his mouth off about a bust..THAT NEVER HAPPENED!!!!!?????

Heidi was a CI and Oakes and any other LE, DA, lawyer that says she wasn't is a liar. But why lie? To cover up a unlawful arrest, sale of coke by "others", help those that took her get away with it? The only reason you got away with HA NOT being a CI is because Judge King made sure of it. Signed card, code name, picture, other cops testifying to it...but no she wasn't a CI.

I don't know how you got away with it but I will tell you that if anyone ever did that to me, they better move far away before I get out...this is disgusting and it doesn't even seem to bother you at all. But maybe the FBI can get states evidence if they investigate this joke of an investigation. DOES IT BOTHER YOU GUYS THAT A VERY IMPORTANT MAN WAS IN THE 2014 COURT ROOM AND WHAT HE SAID? Start Sweating.
                                                                                                                            November 16/17







Today's Quote November 15/2017

Sometime in the future - 25, 50, 75 years hence -

what will the situation be like then? By that time the Chinese will have the capability of delivery too.
Curtis LeMay

Of Course!!
Yes it does make the Thibodeaus innocent.
Leo Richardson and his brother were once arrested for holding a girl against her will. Leo resigned from his position, his brother was found not guilty. SHERIFF TODD said when asked about why Leos brother still had his job at the Oswego Jail, that "he was found NOT GUILTY by a jury of his peers. There fore by law he is innocent." And would be keeping his position. I guess that belief to Todd is upheld if AND ONLY IF your a political or county employee. Because last I knew. Richard was found not guilty. Yet, Todd, still holds on to, NOT- things they missed but things they covered up. Because and only because they all broke the law to gain this conviction. Now it's protect their own asses, from criminal racketeering and RICO charges. So the more they lie, the better off they think they are. Problem is, back then, social media was not as popular and easy to access as it is now. Now a days being able to have easy access and to see all of the information. It's easy to see, that Richard and Gary were both railroaded, intentionally. Goes back to what Bohrer said,"When you have more questioms than you do answers your problems from within."
Sheriffs give the Thibodeau man back his van. It is not evidence, when it has been cleared by FBI, NOT ONCE, TWICE. The van doesn't even match the tire tracks seen in this photo. Notice the officer bent over. Compare the location of the van to the one given on Bivens map. Not the same location. Their own evidence doesn't match the van you stole from Richard. Cough it up theifs.
Must be Sheriffs don't listen to anyone. Even Wescott told you. "I can't believe after 20 years I have to tell you there is another van." Oz Sheriff dept, simply is sending tax payers on a wild lying goose chase. They have for over 23 years.

                                                                                                                            November 15/17

Re: Gary Thibodeau.....Death of Common Sense
I don’t necessarily think the person the sandwich was made for “called” the order in. Anyhow, it is a FACT that Mrs. Duell AND Susan Allen testified that Heidi was scheduled to work on April 3, 1994. Note, also, that Mrs. Duell testified that the employee schedule was located on the bulletin board behind the counter? Certainly was not a “last minute filling-in” for the other clerk as some people make it sound. Look at the inside pictures of the D&W and one can clearly see that all a customer had to do was look and see the schedule for themselves. (Bohrer proclaims to be a regular but, conveniently, Mrs. Duell testified at the Hearing that she didn’t recognize him. NOO Duh when one sees the person 20+ years later and not shown a picture from the correct time period. Right, Pietroski?

Interesting enough, Mrs. Granger says in her statement that Mr. Stinson told her that he knew the clerk was Heidi. Mrs. Granger questioned “How did he know it was Heidi” if he didn’t see who the clerk was. Also, Mr. Stinson told her, via her statement, that he went outside to look for the clerk but Mrs. Granger didn’t see footprints around the building. Both of Mrs. Granger’s statements (April 3, 1994 and July 14, 1994) are available at the Oswego County Clerk’s Office or they can be posted here.

Also ask oneself this, if Heidi was kidnapped after making the sandwich 1-Where is the register transaction for the sandwich? 2-Brett should have been able to identify the customer that bought it from photos the police should have taken because “every customer was a potential suspect” or from the customer, themself? 3-Wouldn’t Heidi have put the meat back ASAP after the ham sandwich was made? 4-Bohrer says in his notes that Heidi made his sandwiches good….what kind? Did LE ever think of asking him that? Probably not. 5-What time did Brett REALLY leave the store?

Dodd, I have a main question for you….How can you effectively, unbiasedly, truthfully Judge another prosecutor or defender knowing the dastardly, underhanded, unethical games you played in your ADA/DA tenure? You, sir (and I don’t mean respectfully), should be number one behind bars. Interesting on some of your cross of Defense witnesses and the deputies, it sounded like you were on the defense….we know there are tire marks (that don’t match Richard’s van) but do you know when they were made….do you know the condition of the van on blah day or blah day….sometimes family, friends and loved ones don’t know someone like they think….Where are YOUR FACTS and PROOF that Gary was doing something other than what he and his alibi witness testified to? Mrs. Rain is not seeking another term…may behoove Oakes to follow suite. Get someone with integrity and ethics to prosecute on behalf of “The People”!!
                                                                                                                            November 15/17

J-Oakes & Sheriffs soon to look like further fools. Lie detector tests and results in the works for Lisa witnesses. When they pass, it'll infuriate the majority. Good luck Oakes. You will need it. New show coming this ones moving fast to save Gary. When results hit. Hope Oakes goes n buries his head in the sand. He deserves, another hard slap.
                                                                                                                            November 15/17


Time stood still for Heidi Allen
From the article, "Time Stands Still for Heidi": Later, while detectives combed the convenience store and surrounding fields,DUELL WOULD NOTICE THAT THE CLOCK WAS STILL ONE HOUR BEHIND. TIME HAD STOPPED FOR HEIDI.

From the article, " Emotional Testimony Offered" : The cash register detail tape was marked as evidence; Duell made not on a copy of it describing what the codes mean and what each transaction had entailed. She and Curtis had also checked the accuracy of the cash register's clock which HEIDI HAD JUST SET THAT MORNING TO DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME.

                                                                                                                            November 15/17



Mrs. Duell testified about the register tape, items purchased and time...??
It strikes me as odd that "The time had to be entered into the memory of the cash register. (Tr. 1488)."

Could it be possible that the register tape was...manipulated when the deputy went back on August 11, 1994 to get the register tape from April 2, 1994? Mrs. Duell's OCSD file was tampered with on August 12, 1994.



Sorry people….those who don’t believe Richard Thibodeau even though he passed a lie detector test given by the Oswego County Sheriff’s. **No disrespect, you really think he could fool a lie detector test? He was the cooperative one…agreeing to the search of his van and giving DNA samples, etc I’d say he was one heck of a confident person that they wouldn’t find anything….because….he didn’t kidnap Heidi, he didn’t help to kidnap Heidi!!**

It Is a fact that he told law enforcement twice, on April 3, 1994 and April 9, 1994 that he paid with 4 $1 bills. In my math book, the cash register should have said one dollar less had Richard actually made that transaction at that time.

BS-“good arrest, good conviction”. Dodd’s theory is they acted together. Did you even read Richard’s statement, Todd? Probably not with your “limited involvement” in the investigation. The burning and burying on Gary’s property didn’t work out for you. The rolled item taken into the woods didn’t work out for you.
                                                                                                                            November 14/17

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Re: Another Unusual Reply

I posted that on a while back and thought about MB and maybe he called to order a sandwhich
to see who was there. Who orders a sandwich at 6am? Did Bret hear the phone ring? Was the sandwich for herself? They missed a lot didn't they.

Another thing that bothered me was Stinson said Heidi was setting the cash register to the wall clock and it was distorted. I've never been in there in 1994 so I didn't know if there was a clock on the wall. But I did see a clock over the counter but she couldn't see it from the cash I was wondering about that also with the other 22k other things in this case.

Funny how many "leads" we the readers have found. Spacecube on is a great source, she/he has read the trial transcript and really knows a lot.

Also to the person that posted about Richard taking HA back to the store and the snitches said she wasn't there, wouldn't that make them innocent? But they lied because Swenkowski and Richard were there at the same time and both saw her...BUT STINSON DIDN"T???? Still bothers the hell out of me but I am not accusing him of any crime...just can't get past it.

You have info please post and keep it private if you are scared, or send it to Lisa P. Please, it's been to far gone with this case and the "FACTS".

We must hope for an FBI investigation and I think there may be one as that GUY in court in 2014...who was he, why was he there and what do they know or suspect. Hope there is an H-BOMB coming to Oswego County.
                                                                                                                            November 14/17

Police Blotter
On 11/9/17 at 9:30 p.m., Roger L. Breckenridge, 49, of 410 W. Embargo St., Rome, was arrested based on a Bench Warrant issued out of Oswego County Court.
Mr. Breckenridge was remanded to the OCJ to await Oswego County Court in session.
                                                                                                                            November 14/17



Another Unusual fact
We know Bohrer would have Heidi make him sandwiches. That is a fact in this. What is it Stitson describes seeing left in the deli area?? Meat on the slicer. What is it. Heidi was doing inside the store the very moment she was taken? Where was she really standing? Was her back at any point to either entrance? Possibility she never saw it coming. Did someone order a sandwich to distract her? Lots of questions. Most employees do not leave a slab of meat on the slicer. Its typically put back where it can stay cool. It's logical to believe. Someone came in, asking for asandwich.
Here's the proof
If someone distracted Heidi, by the slicer in these photos. In order to operate the slicer. She would have her back to the entrance. Notice the entrance right behind where she would have been located. Where and when is there ever fresh meat left, untouched on any slicer? In April 3, 1994 there was. Was she interrupted in the middle of slicing meat for a Sandwhich? Or was she standing directly in front by the cash register. In both positions, the entrance is behind her.



                                                                                                                            November 13/17





Where Is Heidi …. Follow The Money
I don’t know if this has been addressed here or not but why, in the middle of suspected crime scene, did the Sheriffs investigators let the owner of the store take the money from the cash register? The store opened at what 5:00 AM and Heidi goes missing around 7:30? So in 1994 there could have been what $150 - $200 to open and in the we hours of Easter Sunday morning they may have sold another $150 - $200 worth of gas, cigs and newspapers? What possible excuse could there have been for taking possible evidence from a suspected crime scene without it having been tagged, bagged or fingerprinted? I want to here Maurice “are you out of your ever lovin” explain that one.
                                                                                                                            November 12/17

Usual Facts lol


Does anyone find it unusual if you were to take out Richard or Gary Thibodeau. The distraction. Cross off all lies, or anywhere their names come up. Exclude them as suspects. What is left. Unusual facts.
Fact -Bohrer ran down the road screaming on the phone, to the sheriff's. "I know what happened to Heidi. Call Bobby Wheeler." Connection 1, Bobby Wheeler being known and requested by Michael Bohrer. Funny how Bohrer knew Robert Wheeler by his nickname.
Fact - it is documented in the Sheriffs own writing. Gram Breckenridge had made a comment," That she knew where Heidi was buried but couldn't tell anyone." Rogers own family has a secret.
Fact- Trudy the psychic Bohrer was driving around with. Was once married to officer Lortie. Another connection. Or just a simple fact. That Bohrer is driving around with a huge connection to Officer Lortie.
Fact- Breckinridge and Maynes were making comments of involvement.
Fact-Bohrer met with FBI in 95, was listed as a person of interest.
Fact-They used the idea because Gary and Richard helped search. They must be guilty. Facts, documents, photos show. Dan Barney, David Maynes, Brett Law, Mrs. Kris Duell, partial store owner are all through the old news and helped search for Heidi Allen.
Fact - Sheriffs noted and stated all doors the customers used were unlocked. Oakes suggest only the one was. Which ones lying Oakes or the Sheriffs.
Fact-Sheriff Nellis stated in 94, Gary was arrested because he matched the one who had grabbed Heidi. But Sheriff Todd testified Gary matched the eye witness as a driver. So which ones lying?
Fact - The sheriff's did deny help of 120 investigators from across the state. Denied the help. Then Cuomo sends over 200 national guard and volunteers.
Fact-Kris Duells file was tampered with prior to Gary's trial. She also helped man the search areas. Is this why Rice Road was never searched.
Fact-Several days in to the kidnapping Sheriffs said there was no proof a crime was ever committed and ended the on foot searches.
Fact-Heidi family flew in Benningfield. Benningfield sends request for searches. Thus bringing up the problem. About the then lie, they never denied help.
Fact-Bohrer David Maynes snuck on Gary Thibodeau property at 2 am. He was arrested. His excuse, he wanted to make sure the cops didn't plant anything. Is what he told reporters. What he told police was he was checking on the dog.
Fact-Reporters caught the Sheriffs pulling a shovel with human tissue on it from an investigators vehicle. When asked why they had it. They declined to respond. Smh..maybe Maynes knew Gary didn't do it, cause he did. Knew these cops would plant evidence.?
Fact-They there are to many actual facts in this. To many, unusual coindencences with all the same names. When you minus out either Thibodeau brother. You can clearly see, something's wrong. How Ironic all those same names that were named in 94, 95, reports, news, interviews, so on, are in play once again. Ask yourself. What are the chances. One in a million. An officer once said it best. " To many coincidences equal guilt."
                                                                                                                            November 12/17

The Innocent in the land of OZ
They don't believe in FBI, that's obvious. They truly think no ones paying attention. Sorry to tell them. They have been implimented 4 years ago. Every move they've made, every lie they've told has been documented. Their clock will someday not tick. The man in court. Was making fun of them. He has far more power than any sheriff with a toy badge. He saw straight through them. One comment he made. "This isn't the first time he was called to OZ." If you ask any of the ones sworn to protect you from OZ, they wouldn't believe their names on any FBI LIST. Sorry to pop their little lying bubble. But there names were given by many. I do not doubt the claims coke was being sold out of any dept up there or by any cops there in OZ, Bohrer use to meet Mr. Bobby Wheeler right across from Medspar, maybe Bobby needs a physical and should tell the truth, before its to late for him. He was spotted repeated times in his black dark tinted window car, parked across from Medspar, with good ol Bohrer hanging from the driver side window. Is that why Bobby, Bohrer says 2 things that should spark anyone. "An officer showing cocaine symptoms on the stand (must be Bohrer was in Gary's court room), that wheelers business is no good." When I personally was asked, who wheeler may be. First response was Bobby. Bobby has always been dirty. That is not something he could seem to hide at all, ever. For the good Sheriffs to put blinders on. God forgive them, they to have a nice spot in Hell, a long with Oakes, Moody, Todd and Dodd. Here's a hint Sheriffs. Many are coming for you. Times passing. In the end, your clock will stop with feds, few dozen cuffs. Do you truly think messing with a justice dept employee Lisa was going to get you anywhere, it won't. Court order comes in, it'll take from what I am told 6 hours to round you all up. Cowboy FEDS vs cop wanna bees, which ones going to win? Here Oakes a tad bit of a hint. Go pull files on East Coast resorts another coke drop off place. Ask campers from the 90's what Bohrer buddy Fabian was flying in and landing on the water, ask them you worth less DA what it is they saw. Fabian also walked away from Murder charges. How convient. I'll give you one hint. It goes up your nose. You might want to check Wheelers nose, find out why he shows signs of drug use.
                                                                                                                            November 11/17

Vanpatten corrupt to the core
I once received a phone call. From someone who helped move the van, he screamed, "Vanpatten ordered the hit on Heidi." That I do not doubt. Vanpatten is knee deep in this. He is the main problem. Notice he is no where to be found. Hiding just like the Sheriff. Vanpatten everyone is well aware you are also knee deep in to the drug field. Funny how that all works for you. How is your buddy Leo Richardson, the fella who was also arrested for holding a girl against their will? Whom owned the bar your corrupt ass rated Heidi out at? The bar known as a drug bar. Vanpatten you truly think no one really knows. Many do. Some have made calls about you. Cuffs, a jump suit and some feds, will bring pure justice. Only then, will Heidi and anyone you have ever hurt get justice. When that day comes. Many will cheer FEDS on.
                                                                                                                            November 11/17


Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
To: Theories up the ass and last witness.

this what I think too. This case has so many holes, you could walk thru it. Loved both of your posts.
Problem is when the Judge, DA and cops are all trying to cover up a bad arrest and conviction it's hard to uncover and get what you want....BUT NOT FOR THE FBI!!!

Nothing in this case makes sense except that LE wanted a quick arrest to put an end to this and not to get themselves in trouble. One poster said a few weeks ago that a retired cop told him that coke was being sold out of the OPD...true? Who knows but I've heard the same thing.

Find the old Peeled Onion blog and read Mrs. Granger's statements when she arrived at the store....

Is that why Mrs. Granger's statements were stamped late?

Face it fellas, the only hope you have for not going to prison is if the FBI or the DOJ or the NYS atty's office doesn't do a full investigation. Only a child would believe any of this investigation was done without corruption.


Does Jenn Westcott feel like an ignored woman after she spilled he guts to the OCSD inv. and nothing was done about it? She told you what happened and you sat there and ignored it. Would you please respond and let us know why?
                                                                                                                            November 10/17

Theories up the ASS
One theory was Gary and Richard picked Heidi up. Went to Gary's. Gary and Heidi enter the woods. Start arguing, Gary then hits her in the head with a shovel. They then bring Heidi back to the store. Richard forgets his smokes. Upon returning Heidi is missing. Per Baldasaro theory. So who took Heidi after being dropped off?

Second Theory is a witness saw Gary and Richard carry something rolled up and taken in the woods. So if she's rolled up in something and taken in the woods. Then apparently Heidi was never dropped off back at the store, per Baldasaros claims.

Third theory they couldn't have carried her off in any woods if Gary was then blamed for burning her remains in his wood stove and then burying her on his property.
So, some how she removed herself from the store. After coming back from Garys, was then carried off inside a rolled up item, taken in to the woods. Then burned in a stove that sat right beside Gary's home, later to be buried on his property. Quite a series of theories. But these aren't all.

The fourth is opportunity. Crime of passion per Sheriffs comments on Dateline. In turn it contradicts Baldasaro the jail house snitch, who says Richard and Gary planned to meet with Heidi to talk to her.

Opportunity is never a planned event. That’s probably why the Sheriff himself has learned to shut up. "There are no cabins there never were.", " James Steens not a bad guy.",..the Sheriff and it's offices look like morons. No Sheriff the only one out of their ever loving minds are those supporting this conviction and any if you corrupt officials. Due to political status, job title, you name it, it doesn't matter. Right is right "Sheriffs" and this is all wrong. If they support you. Their IQ, can't be to high. There is a point. Bad cops, make them all look corrupt.
                                                                                                                            November 8-9/17

Bobby Baldasaro
Has anyone besides Dodd seen the notes about Bobby?

HHmmm. A report from Florida probation says they recommend that his probation be revoked and "2 years community control for closer supervision". Notes show that a governors warrant was issued for him. They were going to hold him up in MA so he can testify in NY "then we can justify putting him back on probation". What? He got probation for testifying in NY.

Damn, and I thought it was testified to that neither inmate received any benefit for testifying.?!

It's all in black and white...Bobby did.
                                                                                                                            November 7/17

Heidi Allen
It is refreshing after all this time to see your readers are getting closer, the post that stated the officer did this and that. the same officer that was infatuated with this new young informer, who lost her card at the same place she was taken from, find out who got her the job. could it be the same officer that happened to pass by that morning and was flagged down, fits the FBI profile, who manipulated the investigation toward the two brothers or others near by.
                                                                                                                            November 7/17

Here are some more Facts that Oakes and the Leos seem to by pass.

Fact - the same officer whom exposed Heidi is one who met with Richard Thibodeau.
Fact - The same officer exposed her twice, not once as Oakes and Sheriff like to think.
Fact - This officer knew Mensch, whom is great buddies to Dan Barney
Fact - This officer exposed Heidi to Mensch.
Fact - Heidi then vanished.
Fact - They hid all info on Bohrer even though FBI took his statement in 95 and he was listed as a suspicious person
Fact - Dan Barney was real probable suspect
Fact - Store owners file was breached prior to Gary's original trial
Fact - They with held the suspect list
Fact - They with held CI card, per Terry Whipple testimony, "I can not give to defense what was not given to me."
Fact- Gary, nor Sharon ever went to Mass, per Sheriff own testimony and paperwork of them detailing Gary's Cadillac in his driveway the night of April 3, 1994.
Fact - The Sheriff dept and the DA office are habitual liars.
Fact - The higher powers in OZ, have no idea, all eyes from higher authority have watched every move they have made for 4 years for a reason.
Fact - Officer Petrowski disposed of, stole or has hidden evidence. Just may have been caught by higher authority, than himself.
Fact- citizens were complaining even DA Oakes went around spewing an entirely new theory about Gary throwing Heidi remains off a cliff in MASS, even though evidence shows Gary was in OZ, NY.
Fact Greg seems to believe the words only from Baldasaro, but clearly bypasses the suspects own admissions.
Fact everyone but Baldasaro to Oakes is hear say. Even though it's a fact Baldasaro in the Sheriffs papers claims he heard everything from a man named chicken.
Fact- Chicken tells the Sheriffs. He hears nothing from Gary. Is that why Chicken wasn't called to testify.
Fact That Donald Dodd is a dirty ass DA, and Oakes is right on Dodds heels.
                                                                                                                            November 6/17

Heidi Allen case
I wish that someone would do an entirely factual story from front to back on how the brothers became suspect and one was convicted and the other acquitted. There is so much available for the public to get the facts about.

Juries get it wrong often and that’s why there have been so many people let go over the past 10 years, and more. Mostly because of false convictions due to shoddy DNA testing but others from misidentification and prosecutors who “coach” their witnesses into saying what they think the jury wants to hear to convict.

Didn’t Dodd say during the Hearing that all documents had two stamps and a green mark? Well, where’s those on Mrs. Granger’s statements? “All documents were handled the same.” I think not. Or did you mean only the documents YOU wanted handled that way. Was Mrs. Granger’s statements one of those documents which you wouldn’t say what it was that you weren’t turning over?

Are most prosecutors ego-maniacs?
                                                                                                                            November 3/17

Brenda Rice....Really
Brenda Rice is Oswego City's version of Howie Hawkins. Runs every couple of years and nobody is going to take her serious. Two minutes of talking to her on the front porch is enough exposure for a couple of years.
Hang it up Brenda...your mouth alone will defeat you.
                                                                                                                            November 3/17

Lets Get To Know The Real NATE EMMONS
Lets get to know the real Nate Emmons...

Since being elected into office as an Alderman NATE EMMONS has done the following...

1. NATE EMMONS has voted YES to RAISE TAXES.. so his flyer "cutting out the fat" must have a different meaning to Nate Emmons

2. NATE EMMONS voted YES to lay off Fireman from The Oswego Fire Department

3. NATE EMMONS voted yes to layoff CSEA Employees



                                                                                                                            November 3/17



Brenda Rice
Three times the first ward elected someone else and they all were duds.
Maybe it is time for Brenda Rice.

                                                                                                                            November 3/17


Xpress Auto Care
Beware aware of the crew over at Xpress Auto Care as they are failing inspections on purpose. I was recently there and the crew are a bunch of young punks who lie and falsify documents. I told the crew I was going to report them to the owner and asked for the owners name but none of them claimed to know the owner (lies). After telling them I was going to report them to their boss they wanted to fight; no worries all the guys there weigh like 98 pounds. The main issue is they told me that my inspection failed do to the aliment of my car and I bought my car from a dealer less than a year ago and the car is like brand new; I was also told by other inspection places that it was obvious that they ripped me off as most don't inspect for aliment. Everyone beware and to the owner, you never called me so this is what you have to deal with now!

                                                                                                                            November 3/17

Past Witness
As far as Appeal and Dodd's or OCSD's credibility in discovery....Why does Pat Granger's first statement made on April 3, 1994 have a Received by Oswego County Sheriff's Dept. stamp on July 21, 1995? Her second statement was made on July 14, 1995. That was after Gary's trial already started. Is it proper to stamp "received" 15 months after the statement was taken?

**Head slap** This is OCSD who allows their deputies to write reports 2 years after an incident related to Heidi.
                                                                                                                            November 2/17


Death to common sense
Look closer at the Sheriffs time line.
4:19 a.m., someone arrived two hours prior to Heidi and turned the register on. Who, why and did they also exit the building. Sheriffs have, Heidi, Mr. S, Richard and Mr. Stitson all on the scene at the same time. Impossible. Their time lines a joke. Their investigation should not have started at the time Heidi turned on the cash register at 6 am, but at 4:19 am, I am certain the owners of the store should be able to explain who accessed the store prior to Heidi, who had a key and why were they there. No ones paying any attention to the fact the store had a visitor that obviously had access to store keys, cash register keys two hours prior to Heidi. The State police just slapped the shit out of the Sheriffs by saying we do not arrest on pure speculation and we work with FBI. SHERIFFS arrest on speculation, they refuse to work with FBI, the dept is a joke, ransacked by corrupt officials. That's reality.
                                                                                                                            October 31/17

Gary Thibodeau.....The Death Of Common Sense
Still wondering about all the loose ends in this case (easily found) and the real big one is the time lines at the store.

Stinson (not accusing him of any crime) said he was there at 7:38 after a deputy and himself timed his route and he found out his watch was 3 minutes slower than he thought.

Richard and Swenkowski got there a 7:41.

If Stinson got there 3 minutes before Richard and Swenkowski, why didn't he go into the store? Why did he wait 4 minutes to do so. Had to be after 7:42 per OCSD time of kidnapping by Richard and Gary because Stinson said he did NOT see, just how the hell could this ACTUALLY, factually and really have happened like this???

And he said he did not see anyone or any vehicles there, but Swenkowski did , Richard did, they both saw Heidi, but Stinson said he didn't see Heidi. Swenkowski testified that he saw Richard leave the store ALONE. But still Stinson said he saw nothing and then entered the store, and no Heidi.

HOW COULD THIS HAVE HAPPENED???? And was this addressed in the grand jury or the first trial. See people it is impossible for Richard and Gary (who was not seen there, by ANYONE) to commit this crime.

I know what my opinion is, what's yours?
                                                                                                                            October 30/17


RE: So what's up with this jeep and wagon business? Wouldn't that be considered theft of services? A lot of questions to be answered.

When Kells took a trailer from the citys old equipment and had the DPW fix it up there is nothing wrong with that. When he had it delivered to his house to be used for his Halloween hayride then it became theft of city equipment.

When he took a Jeep from the city impound lot had the mechanics fix it up filled it with gas at the city pumps and then delivered to his house to pull the hay wagon that was theft of services, theft of gasoline and grand theft auto.

The mayor knew and so did the police chief.

                                                                                                                              October 30/17



The FBI profiler said that the person that abducted Heidi Allen would be someone obsessed with the case and someone that would try and involve them self in the investigation. That fits two people I can think of Michale Boher and Lisa Buske.
                                                                                                                            October 24/17

I to hope it's their turn...

                                                                                                                            October 23/17

Deadline: Crime with Tamron Hall "The Vanishing Clerk"
I watched. One of the most noteworthy quotes from the show was when Lisa Buske, Heidi's sister, said that one can't form an opinion simply from reading the news. I believe she was referring to the recent revelations however, I'd like to take it back to 1994/1995 when the jurors spoke anonymously after the verdict. They, or only one, commented such as "they made the van move", we didn't believe Gary's alibi because "we thought she was trying to protect her man", "they must of had plastic in the van". Forming a personal opinion about the defense witness/es. Specifically, that Richard's (Teresa) elderly family members testified about his alibi but was having a difficult time remembering a timeline without opining the same for the eyewitness who was much younger that "I don't recall" often when questioned by the Defense. Facts via witness testimony show that it was impossible for the van to have moved the way it did in the time period testified to. Gary's alibi was acquitted of lying but not until after Gary's conviction. There was no evidence via testimony that suggested there was plastic in the van. If that's what the jurors based their verdict on, their own possible theories, they are just as wrong in their decision as the DA is for continuing to punish Gary "The Innocent" Thibodeau. ALL the theories of how Gary and Richard could have committed the crime of kidnapping Heidi have been debunked. She wasn't burned and buried on Gary's property as the inmates testified to as evidenced by no DNA evidence or any link by the FBI. The taking Heidi to MA in the Caddy theory was debunked by proof via Gary's alibis' charges for perjury relating to going to MA being dismissed and no evidence that the rolled rug, or whatever was claimed in the show, having any link to Heidi. No surprise that Lisa B. gave up hope on finding Heidi alive after 10 years when the DA claims that Gary and Richard "brought her to a place never to be found". "We just know they did it but can't tell you how, why or where". That's Justice? For Heidi's or Gary's family? Justice would be following up more stringently on the "boasters" because at the very least 3 cadaver dogs indicated in an area similar to where one of them claimed to have taken Heidi's body and the Fact that Jennifer Wescott failed her lie detector test and then went for another interview with the DA present and was recorded saying what she knows. And, IMPORTANTLY, Richard and Gary both passed lie detector tests. Richard-just 6 days after Heidi disappeared and Gary-a year or so later after the conviction. Why wasn't Gary given one by the Sheriff's before his arrest?
                                                                                                                            October 23/17


Even Juors didn't care
Is this what Lisa Buske is defending a case with no evidence not a drop. A case where the jurors were taking naps and reporters not only witnessed this, they wrote about it, in between naps LISA BUSKE they asked for a case of beer. Your sisters case has been nothing more than a joke. Fight away Lisa til you die, your fighting nothing. You've ALLOWED this along with your family.
                                                                                                                            October 22/17

Lisa Buske
What is it Lisa has done to actually fight for her sister? Not a damn thing. She's done nothing but pamper those who created this mess. While helping hinder an investigation. She's nothing more than a direct road block to the truth to what happened to Heidi. I'll tell you Lisa no one will help you any further. You are the reason no one else will come forward. You support the DA claiming your sisters a druggie and your Aunts a LIAR. Great support for your sister. One person of higher statue said it the best. Lisa you are simply not smart enough to figure out you have been fooled. Keep supporting them. Lisa why not tell the truly good folks of Oswego about your bull shit even with Dateline. Walking off the set when asked if you or Heidi were druggies. But yet support the DA DODD WHO CLAIMS YOUR SISTERS A DAMN DRUGGIE. YOU MAKE NO SENSE. NONE. Eventually even all your lies are going to come out. Then Lisa every one will know exactly who you are. A me,me, me type person. Not once have you ever truly helped your sister in any way. Not once since this entire thing began have you even met any of the witnesses only slammed anyone trying to help Heidi. Karma Lisa will come your way. SO quit asking anyone for help. Most people know your a self centered me, me, me type person that had no real relationship with Heidi. You are a fool, and a out right fake.
                                                                                                                            October 21/17


                                                                                                                 October 16/17Anne Bronte




secrets of the inner workings at the DPW.
We the employees for the city of Oswego DPW. Are instructed to dump our waste from our Vector truck (sewer vacuum) not all storm runoff sometimes sewage is involved. We are instructed to go up to the east side Reservoir behind the mental health facility and dump our thousand gallon tanks on the trucks in the woods. Somebody with the know-how and big enough balls needs to go up there and take a soil sample. I really don't think this activity is legal. But from the corruption and crazy things I have been seen happen around town, I would not know where to start you can't call the police because they have an agreement to immediately call mr. Kells if it's a city issue. I have witnessed that myself at my residence. With the discussion of Sergeant Berger stating mr. Kells has never been issued a badge. then why did one of your young rookie officers override my request to make a report to Oswego PD. And denied me that right. Is there anyone out there that can help.
                                                                                                                            October 15/17


The faces have changed but the city is right back to where it was when Gosuck and Dumbsmoor were running it.

Here's a good laugh.
Corruption at the DPW led by mr. Kells, just another bit of news to our taxpayers I bet you are not aware that Kells has an agreement with scriba we go out there and cut trees. With our tree truck chipper a supervisor his pickup truck and normally one more vehicle to carry guys roughly up to eight guys go on these Journeys to scriba. I've been on 5 of the trips myself, this is been going on since Kells took office. Is it just me or has any other taxpayers seen scriba DPW in the city limits working off the trade agreement of the tree removals. I have never witnessed scriba in our city doing anything. Oswego city DPW has spent a lot of money out in the town of scriba !!
                                                                                                                            October 13/17

Racetrack IDA Corruption
The track is owned by Oswego IDA/Operation Oswego who are running an illegal slush fund, revolving loans to each other. Tom Kells DPW commissioner with zero qualifications is a recent board member. This is the connection to much of the corruption between Oswego and NY State. And Kells orders the OPD to stand down on every complaint.


                                                                                                                            October 11/17

County of Oswego IDA
· Established an unauthorized revolving loan program, using its own funds, to finance a portion of the cost of projects. The IDA had 90 loans outstanding as of May 31, 2014, totaling nearly $9.6 million that were financed by its own funds.
· There is no formal process to compare current and projected jobs at the time of application to the reported number of jobs actually created and retained.
· Auditors found 31 companies that received loans only created half of the jobs they said they would create.

                                                                                                                            October 11/17



Re: Free Water
Let's see now…
There's a City of Oswego fire hydrant, hooked up with what appears to be a brand new fire hose supplying “FREE WATER” to the Oswego speedway.
Question’s; a) Where did the hose come from? b) Who was responsible for hooking it up? (Who authorized this?)
NOW! There just happen to the “Official Safety Truck” from “Safety Solutions” Parked on an off this past weekend at the west side fire station. (Solves where the city owned fire hose came from.)
But more questions’: Who owns the truck? And is it an Oswego City fireman? Just have to check the “duty roster” and fined out who was working this weekend…
Then fire Oswego DPW Commissioner Tom Kells and whoever hooked up that fire hose to the hydrant.

                                                                                                                            October 10/17



Re: FYI...Oswego Speedway Water Draw Free Water

That's an expensive piece of city owned hardware lying on the ground. It's a wonder that someone didn't run over it? Trucks pulling campers, big rigs, dark at night, or stole it? And if a fire had broke out in the city and the fire dept. needed that valve... been hell to pay.

                                                                                                                            October 10/17

More on OZ Speedway
Just read the news article on the ownership and promoters that are getting million dollar handouts from the Guv Cuomo for this Super Dirt Week event that claims to draw 70,000 tourists to OZ when in fact the facility can only seat 5,000.

As it goes the promoters and speedway owners have out of state business addresses that happen to be income tax free from taxes. So tax payer money is going across state lines and not back in the community.

Kells and the people that are city workers need to go to jail for there actions of double dipping and giving the speedway free handouts at the expense of senior tax payers getting shafted for these increases to subsidize others pockets.

How bad can it get?

So, after reading all the apparently factual info on the water stealing at the speedway, the Board of Education actions, Port Authority being mismanaged, the disappearing soybeans, the most well known area bank not being responsible with tracking missing receipts and financial responsibilities connected to this,, the whole DPW debacle, misuse of funds, resources, etc. The need to run misdeeds of city workers past Mr. Kells' when reporting a traffic infraction and dangerous driving experience to the Police Department... The OPD hand in hand with the DPW, school busses speeding through the city,. The new construction with questionable debris removal, without appropriate permits, safety features in place, hazmat issues, training issues, etc. These posts go on and on. Questionable mayoral campaign donation sources, apartments with prostitution running rampant....

Can anyone tell me...Where do these statements end up? Is it all a joke? Is all this a sick source of a type of entertainment? Or if true.... All just under the proverbial rug? Everything from- unsolved murders to stealing city resources and taxpayers money? If this is all factual, backed by tángible sources, facts, photos, and witnesses, how can these very public and well known incidences go uninvestigated? Why is there no official investigation or powers in place putting a stop to it, arrests, fines, or governmental interference and stops put in place? How bad can one city get before someone, something bigger and more powerful steps in?

                                                                                                                            October 10/17


If you will recall it took the State Police, FBI and US Attorney to get rid of the Gosek Mafia.

This bunch seems determined to out do them.





Today's Quote October 3/2017

Just because something doesn't do what you planned it to do doesn't mean it's useless.
Thomas A. Edison

Person Of Interest VANISHED
Michael Bohrer a person of interest in the disappearance of Heidi Allen has himself dropped off the radar. Bohrer who was arrested in relation to the abduction of another woman in another state testified at the 2014 Thibodeau hearing. While he had been seen since the hearing he seems to have completely vanished in the last 8-10 months. If anyone knows of his whereabouts send a message to this site.

                                                                                                                            October 3/17

Mr. Mayor and Mr. Kells
Is it true Mr . Kells that you watch your workers on GPS, instead of driving around, and surveying the work that has to be done ?
This is about you ,Mr Kells and your lack of construction and people skills. The mountain must be tall at your house, but you are three feet tall in mine !
I hope the new aldermen have more backbone than the out going bobble heads ! I guess siting around sucking coffee, is how they get there pat on the backs !
                                                                                                                            October 3/17


Today's  Quote September 14/2017

I believe that the way people live can be directed a little by architecture.
Tadao Ando

Donations "friends of Billy barlow"

                                                                                                                          September 13/17


Lest we forget Wheeler
What's that I read? At the pre-trial Hearing in 1995 Wheeler testified to not knowing that Gary was a suspect in MA? But...he received the warrant via fax in 1994 and the notes show he was at the brief on April 15, 1994 when Gary was named as prime suspect.

Now, why was nothing done about Wheeler's verifiable, blatant, proven lie under oath?



Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Does anyone think it was suspicious:.. that Jennifer Westcott didn't tell the inv. that she lied until after they told her the phone call was taped?

...that Oakes brought Tonya just to discredit her
...that Oakes said he didn't believe anything JW said but offered her (per JW) immunity
...that Oakes said he didn't believe Tonya but wouldn't give her a poly that she asked for
...that JW was just trying to appease her and get her of the phone. "I won't lie to ya"...JW to Tonya on the phone.
...that Oakes never mentioned that JW kid accidently hit Tonya's phone mumber
...that the whole phone call per OCSD may have been stagged. Yeah JW is going to put herself into a crime
..."I guess I was just confessing I had Heidi Allen in my house"...Jenn Westcott....remember she said she never lived there
...that JW said "I never said anything about them bringing her in a WHITE van...yes people sha said a WHITE van. The inv. then said "no, that isn't what you said".
...and then goes back and tells them that she was told what happened to HA.


The worst cover up since the JFK murder. Just read it, Swenkowski, Richard, Stinson, Bivens is all you need to read to know something fishy happened here and I dare any DA to PROVE this crime happened the way they said it did. IMPOSSIBLE ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE. You guys made a lot of mistakes.
                                                                                                                        August 30/17


December 8, 1994-Pre-trial motions which include request for discovery-the partial transcript page from Exhibit #28 of Oakes’ filing to the Motion to vacate says, “The Court: He doesn’t want to tell you what he’s holding back, Mr. Walsh.”
December 14,1994-Fahey went to inspect discovery material-
Viewed tapes, photos, etc…”a copy of the entire Oswego County Sheriff’s Department report relative to this criminal action”.
Why did this not include the bulk storage material from the search center? Those items were no less a part of “the entire OCSD report” to this criminal action? Had they been made available to Fahey on December 14, the CI index card would have been “found” then instead of May 1995.




                                                                                                                        August 29/17





Today's  Quote August 12/2017

Dreams will get you nowhere, a good kick in the pants will take you a long way.
Baltasar Gracian

It Begins
Garys appeal was granted permission to proceed.

                                                                                                                                  August 12/17

Cabin diggers




Moe says, “There are no cabins, trust me.” There never was.?

Coward…won’t publicly respond to being Wrong!

And, what’s up with taking a small excavator to the site After the ME completed their forensic examination? Look at Lt. Moskal’s affidavit #8.

BTW…Wasn’t Darron a prosecution witness? He built the “cabin”, aka “fort” for a youngster, and he testified that his grandfather, the landlord of 68 Rice Road would not live with his tenant in opposition to what D. Purdy testified to. Darron also testified that he would mow Purdy’s lawn and take care of their dog Because They Were Not At Their Residence. Trust Me…if one was at the Hearing, one would KNOW the testimony.

I believe the good people who have come forward, risking ridicule and naysayers, more than I believe LE who has proven time and time again to be fabricators and twisters of facts. Kudos to all who take that risk. Their information is invaluable to the Big Picture.

Thank you for posting on your site the Facts and Truth about a case that has riveted the community for 20+ years. We want the entire truth and we want Heidi found!!











                                                                                                                                  August 12/17

Old News revelation in Heidi Allen Case
Maybe you or someone in public land would care to discuss the likely reason that Oakes filed a dismissed charge against a woman who claimed to have received Heidi’s bracelet in the mail years later. Interesting enough about that dismissed charge is that Auntie, apparently, swapped Heidi’s name for true person, and maybe twisted some other details? A whole slew of other witnesses’ past, wasn’t filed for the hearing. Was Auntie mad that someone other than she, from the family, spoke up to say something other than “We trust our law enforcement”? Auntie admits after 20+ years that “they kept it a secret” that Heidi was a CI. For 20+ years of lying, what credibility does she have to say that Heidi was in trouble and that’s why her husband got her into being a CI.

What do you think? Am I being illogical or rude for talking about a family member like that?

Sad Really that Heidi should and could have been found if not for people not wanting to take responsibility for their part in her disappearance.
                                                                                                                                August 12/17


Oakes' roadside conference where possible remains of Heidi may have been disposed of
First…didn’t 3 cadaver dogs indicate near the same spot?

Notice at the beginning of the video where John O’Brien is asking questions and Oakes blames him and an investigator of disturbing the area?
Notice the dates the following statements were given to police and the date of this roadside conference:
3 years later and still no apology even if Oakes didn’t know right away, surely he should have at some point soon after the conference. It didn’t occur to him that he publicly, falsely accused the wrong people of disturbing the area? (A little attention to detail may help solve the problem and answer the Question!!) AND why were the disturbers excused? Oh, that’s right, because Todd says there were no cabins back there so there was no reason to believe that Steen told Tonya about disposing of Heidi’s remains there. I get it!!



                                                                                                                                  August 10/17

Reply to death of common sense
Funny you knew about the big person who was present in court. You also knew exactly what was said. Wonder if the Sheriffs or DA are smart enough to figure out who was that was sitting on Garys side. Very few knew this person was in the court room. Very very few knew the exact comments made. You are absolutely correct. I also agree with this person present during the hearing. I do not think no matter what the courts say or do. In the end, the entire Oswego County will be taking a hit. Like one they've never seen before. This person has far more power than the little DAs playing a game. We will see, but I do think you are 100 percent correct. This person was NOT fooled by these idiots in Oswego and they made that very clear. But how you knew, is beyond me. You even quoted them correct. Not very many knew what was ever said. They also stated they could solve this case in two weeks. Seems the Sheriffs cant even after twenty three years. They did not pull the wool over this persons eyes. This person has far more power than even little Sheriff Todd.
                                                                                                                                August 10/17

Reply to Heidi Case
Good question seeing as not only did they pass lie detector tests, they passed pubic hair sample testing, cleared on DNA with all vehicles and on Gary own land. Why was it David Maynes was arrested for trespassing on Gary Thibodeau property at 2 am, he claimed he was snooping to make sure cops did not plant anything. Also why is it they continued this after they removed the judge whom would not let Dodd break the law. Look in to the other cases in the county that went on in 1994/1995 you will find Dodd could not get a conviction in the higher level cases with out a jail house prisoner. The lies Dodd even told about Sharon when Sheriffs officers testified that the Thibodeau's were home the evening of April 3, 1994 and not in Mass as Dodd like to make tall tales that seem to be contradicted by the Sheriff Dept. Why is it Nellis stated that Gary was arrested because he fit Bivens description of being the one dragging Heidi from the store but Todd testified it was Richard dragging Heidi from the store. To Heidi family, all respect is given but until you stop standing with the liars, you will get no further help from anyone in the public, You claim you want people to come forward but when they do you criticize them. You have souly stopped anyone from wanting to help your family. No one will come forward any further after the insane crap going on with this family. Back in 1994 not only did the family attempt to shoot at Richard and Heidi's fathers guns were taken, they then Martha Sturtz says rearmed the Allen family, I quote the uncle if we want to put a bullet in Richards head, we have the right to express that. In reality no you did not, its assault and you all should have been charged, if you succeeded in killing one of the Thibodeau brothers, you'd have been right along side of Gary in prison, but should rightfully have been there. He should never have been there. The Allen family has not been honest and it is sad, seeing as Heidi is still missing, seems they are doing nothing to help find her. They knew then she was a CI and lied to the public. My compassion goes to Heidi and not to her family whom has done a ton of hiding information for what reason? Her being a CI is important it opens doors to what may have happened to her, your family secret is NOT and WILL never be worth the life of Heidi. EVER. I will quote Fredrick Lings and Richard Stepien as they testified, they admitted the Thibodeau's were home the night of April 3, 1994 not in Mass as Dodd tried to claim for grounds to arrest Sharon. Ling said, " On April 3, 1994 around midnight, I jotted down the license plate number of the Cadillac." Well per Dodd's lies, he claims this Cadillac was in Mass. If you can not see the lies Lisa B, you shouldn't be printing any books, or blogs in regard's to your sister. Stitson also called you out on your own lies built and written in your book. Pretty sad, all of these lies are why Heidi has never been found. Dodd calls all claims against his dept. "baloney." Guess the Allen family never noticed another murder case going on at the same time as Gary's. Chavez-Flores case in 1995 in which case again two jail house prisoners were used at the same exact time and I will also quote Lanza, "Its Ridiculous, why can't cases be judged on merits, the Da can not win a case in this county with out jailhouse prisoners." I will quote myself he can not win a case without lying either and I guess the Allen family never noticed any other cases unfolding the same EXACT way. They violated every possible law to gain this conviction and Gary's case was not the only one. During 1995 Dodd had another case tossed, why cause he had two theories. SO- tell us if Gary buried Heidi on his property, like DA suggests, then why is there a theory he fled to Mass? Two theories, ILLEGAL and this case should have been tossed. In the end it will be. This is where the idiot OAKES came up with this new theory he told to citizens as he made his rounds in Oswego during re election. He claimed to citizens that they tossed Heidi's remains over a cliff in MASS. If you believe that shit story that came from DODD, seek mental help Oakes. Two officers already confirmed that was an out right lie, that you continued to spread to the public a few years ago. (which originated from none other than DODD) When real honest people start to stand up and do the job the Sheriffs refuse to. Then this case will explode and hopefully men in real suits will come wipe out the entire legislative branch of Oswego. The old news is making its rounds and this case has become a national disgrace.
                                                                                                                                August 4/17




Richard Thibadeau's Van

In The Possession Of The Oswego County Sheriff's Department.

All of the doors are black and

there is a large black stripe down each side.

Only the front is all white


OCSD investigators took statements from people describing a white van and or a light blue van.

A 10-year-old with 20-20 vision or a visually impaired 110-year-old will tell you this is not a white van.



This is a BLACK AND WHITE van.

ANYONE WHO GAVE A DESCRIPTION (from a view other than head on),




Inside sources say the OCSD has recently conducted yet another search/inspection of Richard Thibadeau's van and again found no DNA or any other evidence.


That is at least twice they have proven there is no connection between Thibadeau's van and the disappearance of Heidi Allen!



Fire department
Does anyone know if our resident fire department THIEF is one of the firefighters being laid off? If not he should be.
Looks like he is trying to impersonate a Fire Chief, maybe he is going to apply for the Chief's job next year.

This is OZ he/she could be the next chief.

Who made a noise

In David Stinson's statement, given on 4-8-1994 @ 3:56 pm, he says: "This all occurred in about 1-2 minutes. I waited a few minutes for the clerk. I remember hearing something in the back room to the left.

This sound reassured me that someone was there and I waited patiently for the clerk."




To the left? By the back door, the one not everyone knew about? The one the "family" used? Look at this picture closely, see the plywood covering up the old back door, to the left. Who was back there?


                                                                                                                                                 September 29/16


If the back room looked anything like what can be seen outside the back door he probably heard rats.




Today's  Quote  September 22/2016

“We were making the future, he said, and hardly any of us troubled to think what future we were making.

And here it is!”

H. G. Wells

I read what you did, and we all know who you are!
I read what you did, and we all know who you are! Donald Dodd, Reuel Todd, Greg Oakes, Mark Moody, Daniel King, and Donald Todd

As a citizen of this county, you all work for me, not each other. This is too inform you that I am calling you out, for the truth !
I have read all of the information you filed. There is no glaring evidence against Gary Thibodeau, because if there was, you would have had to file it. Further witheld evidence
would constitute another Brady Violation. I pondered today what in the world the former jurors were told in Gary's trial by you, Donald Dodd. Your timeline is preposterous. It is not even worth mentioning. Reuel Todd, please tell me what led you to the Thibodeau brothers? I cannot find any supporting documentation that sends the case towards them. A criminal never calls and identifies themselves, as being at the scene of the crime. Who is Borrelli, and why were you going so far as to talk about him being in a photo line up for the clerks at the D&W 4-16-1994, but on 4-14-1994, Borrelli was given "walking papers" yesterday. That would have made it 4-13-1994. On 4-15-94, you say:" Is it time to do a photo line up on Borrelli?" So you gave Borrelli "walking papers", I believe that means you let him go, on 4-13-94, but on 4-15-94 and again on 4-16-94, you were going to have the clerks at the D&W look at his picture? But after 4-16-94, Borrelli is never mentioned again.

On 4-14-94, the lead sheet says, "Danny Barney, has come into view as a probably suspect". On 4-15-94, the lead sheet says: Wheeler interviewed Dan Barney yesterday,
at length. Believes Barney is not a suspect." Where are the notes from the interview with Dan Barney? 4-15-94, it says, "late yesterday, Gary Thibodeau, entered the picture as a possible suspect. This developes from a lead that came in early on." Where is the lead, Moe? I can't find any documentation of a lead about Gary, being a suspect. Who told you Gary had a crush on Heidi? Or that Gary was ever coming on to Heidi? The only documentation about anyone coming onto Heidi, is in her diary, about her boss, Matt Duell, not Gary.

The case against Gary Thibodeau, regarding Heidi Allen's abduction, is all like the above mentioned fairy tales. This person is a suspect, no, we let him go. Hey, this person might have done it, no, we talked to him and he said he didn't do it. So you decided amongst yourselves, to pin it on a person and his brother, that you had no evidence against, only a citizen that was trying to help you.

So I say that the Appellate Division will get the public the answers we have been seeking for 22 years. Dumb of us to ever believe that our District Attorney's Office, or
Sheriff's Department, were honest or truthful. All you were looking for was someone to blame it on, to puff yourselves up, but I'm sure soon, it will be deflated, like yesterday's
birthday balloons. The public doesn't believe you, trust you, or support corrupt officials.

                                                                                                                                           September 22/16

Oakes habitual liar
Oakes you are a bold faced liar anyone with a computer and access to this blog can see how much of a liar you are. In 1994/95 arrest and conviction of Gary Thibodeau. Fahey repeatedly requested the CI file, he was told Allen wasnt an informant. He then requested a dismissal due to with holding of evidence. The old news reports do not support Oakes bull shit lies. Fahey over and over called Dodd, out on this CI status and requested her entire CI file. Again they played the Allen wasnt a CI. take the time to study openly on your own. The DA office are hubitual liars and so are the Sheriffs. Request a state police if you need an officer. The lies are sickening. The Sheriff dept. Should be shut down.
                                                                                                                                           September 22/16

In Again Out Again Breckenridge
Roger Breckenridge out of Prison
Identifying and Location Information
As of 09/21/16 DIN (Department Identification Number) 13B0403
Date of Birth 08/11/1968
Race / Ethnicity WHITE
Custody Status RELEASED
Housing / Releasing Facility GOWANDA
Date Received (Original) 02/14/2013
Date Received (Current) 06/03/2016
Admission Type
County of Commitment OSWEGO
Latest Release Date / Type (Released Inmates Only) 08/25/16 PAROLE DIV OF PAROLE

Crimes of Conviction
If all 4 crime fields contain data, there may be additional crimes not shown here. In this case, the crimes shown here are those with the longest sentences.
As of 09/21/16 Crime Class

Sentence Terms and Release Dates
Under certain circumstances, an inmate may be released prior to serving his or her minimum term and before the earliest release date shown for the inmate.
As of 09/21/16 Aggregate Minimum Sentence 0001 Years, 00 Months, 00 Days
Aggregate Maximum Sentence 0004 Years, 00 Months, 00 Days
Earliest Release Date
Earliest Release Type
Parole Hearing Date 06/2016
Parole Eligibility Date 10/24/2013
Conditional Release Date NONE
Maximum Expiration Date 11/02/2016
Maximum Expiration Date for Parole Supervision
Post Release Supervision Maximum Expiration Date
Parole Board Discharge Date

                                                                                                                                                 September 22/16


Today's  Quote  September 19-20/2016

“Whether one eats a cat or not is a personal choice, and I don't want to sway anyone one way or another.

But if you do, there is one obvious cooking tip: Always remember to remove the bell from the cat's collar before cooking.”
Mike Royko


Gary Thibodeau...The death of common sense
Are the prosecution witnesses really witnesses as to what they saw or are they just a link to a prosecution procedure that convicted an innocent man.

Witnesses provide information to help the prosecutor convince a jury that a person is guilty as charged.

- Dave Stinson: was there from 7:41 - 7:45, waved down a deputy but did not tell him that he saw a kidnapping.
- Richard was there and left at 7:42 and was seen by Stinson (at least he had to be) but not seen kidnapping HA.
- Stinson walked in after 7:42 and no Heidi. Now how could Richard have done this in one minute, with Stinson being there but did not see anything. He also never mentioned that he saw anyone let alone Gary.
- Mr. Swenkowski said he watched Richard leave the store and then left. He was there at 7:41 also.
- Swenkowski also saod he saw one person.
- Two people there at the time of the crime and saw nothing.
- Bivens said he saw two husky men and a women but NO TIME WAS MENTIONED IN THE DA's STATEMENT OF FACTS.
- So this makes a question of when Bivens was there. Had to be after and close to 7:42 according to the OCSD as that is when Richard bought cigs and left.
- How could Bivens see the crime and Swenkowski and Stinson didn't although they had to be there at the same time because Stinson walked in at 7:41 and no Heidi.
- Bivens stated that he did not remember telling a deputy later that he had driven by at 8-8:30. He saw the crime, then Stinson has to be mistaken about HA not being in the store. Which could happen but he flagged down Deputy Curtis and he also checked for Heidi...not found.
- Stinson said he saw two husky men with a girl in the parking lot. He said there wasn't anyone or cars in the lot.
Wasn't Stinson and Swenkowski there per their statements. Swenkowski also said the deputies tried to convince him that his time was off but he stood his ground on the time he gave.
- I personally don't believe Bivens was even there..(just my opinion). His time is way off and no time was recorded when he first gave his statement according to the DA's time given with his statement. Why not?
- Then we have Gary going to a MA prison and snitches give stories that we now know are not true.
- Bottom line: two witnesses there at the time of the crime but did not see Richard taking Heidi. Bivens saying he saw two husky men taking her (but no time was given by him) but Swenkowski and Stinson were there and did
not see anything.
To the DA involved in this. You sir have NO WITNESSES AT ALL! Maybe a story teller but if at least you should have had three witnesses. Bivens could not have seen a crime between 8-8:30 because the OCSD was there at that time.

I submit to you that you set up a frame of Richard and Gary Thibodeau (and a bad one that is full of holes) got bad info from snitches who I think lied and their statement proves it.

So I am going to ask in this paper right now to Donald Dodd to please answer my question: How did three people there at the time of the crime and two didn't see anything and one who didn't even know or did not want to tell what time he was there, which had to be around 7:41-7:42 did see the crime?

If I were you, I would be afraid, very afraid of a federal Investigation. If no investigation happens if Gary wins his appeal, call your state representative, senator and anyone else that would help.

                                                                                                                                           September 19-20/16



Buske Book
The book is largely based on secondhand information from the Sheriff’s Department, the District Attorney’s office and family members. The Sheriffs lied, the D.A. lied and the family lied so that basically makes the book fiction.
                                                                                                                                           September 18/16



In order to have cellmates they would have to be convicted of something bigger than a misdemeanor.

The Heidi controversy
I was under the direct impression. Heidi switched her schedule with Sally Brooks. Who was suppose to be working at the Fish on in port Ontario. Either way. There are conflicting stories from Heidi family and the DA office. If she was not scheduled the only ones who would be aware of this switch. Are her family, Brett and DUELLS, in which case Ms. Duell file seems to have been tampered with. Very convenient. No one else would ever have known. Unless Heidi told someone. I very much likely doubt that was her topic of discussion.
                                                                                                                                           September 18/16

Re: Gary Thibodeau and the Other 10,000 a Year Wrongfully Convicted in America


                                                                                                                                                 September 18/16

Re: Whos Lying
We know the Family lied, The OCSD lied and the DA lied.
Since the book is based on information which mostly came from these three sources then the answer to the question is everyone.
                                                                                                                                           September 18/16

It's common sense

Why would Donald Dodd or Todd know more. Hmmm, maybe because they supposedly investigated and prosecuted this case.

No matter what you post. The fact is. They should have known. Both her sister and their dept. All have different times,

ones clearly lying. I'll bet it is not Lisa Buske, but the DA office that was said in 1994 to be out of touch with the public

and their mistakes cost human lives. They were also in trouble back then for many different reasons. From lying, to

prosecutorial misconduct. If you read the old news. You'd be well aware of their tricks. I highly doubt her sister is bull

shitting anyone in her book. But I do not doubt that the DA office did a ton. Many people do not agree with your

questions as to how could Dodd or Todd know. Well in order to prosecute this case you'd think they should have.

Ridiculous remarks.
                                                                                                                                           September 18/16



Heidi often offered to work on the holidays.
Regarding Easter Sunday, another employee Sally Brooks, and Heidi, were willing to work; initially Ms. Brooks
was scheduled to open, but she had another job that needed her that morning. Therefore, Heidi agreed to open
the store that morning.



The day started like Easter Sunday did in other small American towns. Heidi arrived at work early, anticipating
the time she would spend with family and friends later in the afternoon. She volunteered to cover the morning shift
so a coworker could spend the holiday with her children, even though it meant she would be the only one working at the store.

                                                                                                                                           September 16/16

If She was working for someone else how were Gary and Richard supposed to know this?????

Did Deputy Van Patten drop her work schedule in the parking lot?????


More questions
Why was the first register tape transaction 4:06?
Why does the book say Heidi started work at 5am?
Why does testimony show Heidi started work at 6am?
Why does testimony show Heidi was on the schedule to work that Sunday?
Why is a “story” that another person was originally scheduled but Heidi took over instead?
Why does testimony show Brett left at 6:35am that Easter morning but the book says around 7:15am?
The inmates statements were taken mid-July.
Why did OCSD get the transaction tape from April 2, 1994 on August 11?
Why was Mrs. Duell’s file tampered with on August 12?
Why did Bivens testify at Grand Jury that he was in the D&W parking lot and the only car there was Heidi’s, his first

statement says he went by the D&W between 8-8:30 but his testimony was leaving Oswego at 7:30am, and his

testimony was about witnessing a physical altercation?
How could Richard and/or Gary have possibly gone to the D&W the morning of April3, 1994, taken Heidi to near Gary’s “to talk to her” brought her back to the store before anyone noticed her gone, made a purchase and then kidnapped her with the time between ALL the customers that were there the morning of April 3, 1994?

Final answer-People lied to help get a quick conviction, in hopes of finding Heidi or “getting their man” to placate the community after Mr. Benningfield told the searchers that the kidnapper could be standing there next to them.

Lisa-you did the research years ago. You know part of the Truth….that Gary and Richard are innocent. Do what’s right. You have plenty of support. Stand up to your family and the lying people you have, unjustly, high regards for.
                                                                                                                                           September 16/16

Here is a direct link to the comments Murtagh has made online. The top comment reads.
FBI on case has been on it for years they feel they have the right guy in jail
Posted on Key Heidi Allen witness texts pal: I lied to police about what I know
10/24/2014 10:32 AM
Which is an out right lie. As we are all aware FBI Points to Bohrer. In 1994 they testified then that there was no link between the Thibodeaus and Heidi Allen.
Murtagh also can not deny it was him. Several times. He makes it very clear. It is him.
Please ask john on this he knows who I am ( Rich Murtaugh )
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/12/2014 8:28 PM
He openly admits twice of removing a van from Valley Road in Fernwood. But no ones paying attention.
                                                                                                                                           September 15/16

Murtagh Confirmed
Murtagh confirmed no caddy in his posts online. So where Oakes got that from is beyond me. Murtagh admits and so did Breckenridge of picking up a van at Gary's. But no idea of a caddy.
I believe he said I towed a van from there not a caddie .. Jmo though
Posted on Oswego County DA: James Steen is pathological liar, but not Heidi Allen's killer
10/22/2014 8:33 AM
Don't no nothing bout caddy
Posted on Oswego County DA: James Steen is pathological liar, but not Heidi Allen's killer
10/22/2014 2:55 AM -Richard Murtagh. So if Oakes wants to use a hearsay witness. He should probley listen to the tower, that was there. No caddy. Sorry Oakes. You did lie in your filing. Little or big, it's a lie. You were giving some impression that the Caddy Dodd brought up was disposed of as well. It is not the truth.
                                                                                                                                           September 15/16

Who's lying game!

Time to compare some facts, between the book, "Where's Heidi", written by Lisa Buske, sister of Heidi, and DA Greg Oakes, Statement of Facts, filed October of 2015.

STATEMENT OF FACTS, page 1, SAYS: On Easter morning, April 3, 1994, Mr. Law arose at 5:45 am at Heidi's residence. He and Heidi left the residence at ab out 5:50am, and Mr. Law followed Heidi to the D&W Convenience Store. Heidi drove her maroon 1984 Pontiac Sunbird Station Wagon, and Mr. Law drove his 1987 Ford Bronco. They arrived at the store at 5:55 am.

Lisa Buske's Book says: Chapter 3 "A Time to weep" , Paragraph 3, page 35: As my parents settled into their swivel chairs, Ed sat on the couch while I snuggled into my favorite childhood chair. We heard Brett's black Dodge Cougar pull into the driveway then Heidi's feet skipping through the kitchen.

Chapter 1 Page 26: At 5 am, on April 3, 1994, Heidi opened up the D&W Convenience Store, located at the intersection of State Route 104 and State Route 104B, and her boyfriend Brett came along to keep her company until the store got busy. Brett often accompanied her on those early mornings.

STATEMENT OF FACTS page 1, last paragraph, last sentence, SAYS: Mr. Law left at about 6:35 that morning.

Lisa Buske's Book page 26, last sentence, says: Brett left the store around 7:15 am

Who's wrong? Who's telling a story? What was Brett driving, a Cougar, or a Bronco? Hey Oakes, did you ever check your "facts"? These facts, are very important, maybe you don't know which is true, who's playing the liar game?
                                                                                                                                           September 15/16


RE: Lies more lies Oakes
Oakes is using classic inadmissible hearsay and uncorroborated rumor to bolster LE’s theory of how Richard and Gary were involved?

Did Mr. Neadle testify? Did Mr. Neadle hear Gary say what Mr. Maynes claimed?

Wow, would have expected more from a top LE official. You studied this case for how long? Shame on you for believing/going along with the sham.
Love all the documents you provided in your Statement of Facts, Affirmations, and Exhibits. Can you publicize more? Please!!
                                                                                                                                           September 12/16


Lies, lies, lies
1. Gary "confessed" to 2 inmates.
2. Illegal search of Gary's property that yielded evidence of Heidi.
3. Phone wire taps.
4. Human bones in furnace.
5. Remains in rolled rug of blue van.

These lies are so easily exposed from the documents made public in DA Oaks' filing it's borderline comical that some people still believe them.

Truth, truth, truth

1a. news article 1995-Dodd says inmates did not say Gary admitted involvement. This is corroborated by the inmates' statements, trial testimony, and by more recent interview with a news reporter.
2a. Fahey tells Judge in pre-trial Hearing there were 2 searches of Gary's property. No pre-trial Hearing was held due to illegal evidence gathered and testimony reflected details of items seized and/or sent to FBI lab. Both searches occurred while Gary was incarcerated. First search on or about June 22, 23 when furnace was seized. Second was on or about July 24 when property was searched and 5 cadaver dogs brought to site with no alerts of human remains. There is indication from Oaks filing that the July 24 search was by warrant. NOTE: blue van was on property for all days of searching and evidence gathered from that van was also testified to.
3a. Phone records were subpoenaed for the MA witnesses. These witnesses were incorrect about Gary and Sharon being in MA on April 3, 4, 5 with a broken down Caddy because deputies positively viewed the Caddy at Gary's property during that time frame.
4a. Testimony shows that no human remains were found from forensic testing and bone fragments were more consistent with animal.
5a. Evidence first gathered from Richard's van on April 9, 1994 which showed no evidence of Heidi "ever" being in that van. Evidence showed that van was seen at a car wash after April 9. Piece of rug that was missing since the first search was found on Richards property. Property receipt given to Thibodeau's, forensically tested to reveal canine DNA. Witness statement about Richard and Gary seen disposing of a rug in the woods with Heidi's remains was proven false by evidence that Richard was working at the time and no physical evidence that Heidi was there (law enforcement physically went to location). Testimony shows that evidence was taken from the blue van during the search on or about June 22 that did not link to Heidi. Testimony from recent Hearing shows that after August 1994 when the blue van was junked, there was no evidence of Heidi in a rolled rug that was in the van.

Questions that should be answered:
Why is there a 40 minute gap between Brett's testimony of leaving the D&W and the time the book says?
Why did law enforcement and family say Heidi wasn't a CI when a Sergeant recognized her as a CI?
Why wasn't the bulk storage Heidi file boxes made available to Defense?
Why weren't the fingerprints from the index card used in conjunction with the notebook fingerprints?
How did Mike have a fax statement of Bivens with the Oswego County DWI unit phone number?
Why was the first time on the register transaction record 4:06?
Why did Brett testify in Gary's trial that Heidi wasn't afraid of anyone in particular but in Richard's he mentions Matt Duell?
Why does Dodd affirm during a pre-trial Hearing that he was withholding information and wouldn't say what he was withholding if he was going to make "the entire OCSD file" available to Defense?
Why wasn't the fact that Sharon and Richard were acquitted of their charges relevant to Gary's Appeal in 1999?
Why wasn't Wheeler reprimanded for lying during a pre-trial Hearing?
Why isn't Pietrowski being held accountable for missing texts?
Why does Todd keep lying to the public?
Why doesn't Oaks do what's right in the miscarriage of Justice?
How could Heidi's family stand behind law enforcement after all that has been made public?
Why was Jennifer the only recently named given a polygraph?
Why is law enforcement covering for convicted criminals when 3 dogs indicate in an area related to the boasting of several criminals?
Why was an excavator brought to the cabin site without the medical examiner present?
When will the Appellate Division begin hearing oral arguements?
Why was it not relevant to Gary's jurors that several witnesses admitted during trial to misconduct by law enforcement in relation to their written statements?
When will the insanity of "Justice was served" end?
Who will be the first to "tell the whole truth and nothing but the Truth"?
Who will man-up and answer - WHERE'S HEIDI?

Compare the theory of Gary and Richard being involved in the disappearance of Heidi and what is known as Fact and compare that to the recent revelations.....#FreeGary.
                                                                                                                                           September 11/16

Lies more lies Oakes
This is how bad the DA office adds to words from Witnesses. Read #179. Bold faced lie. Oakes directs you to exhibit 12, as proof. He says that Roger towed a van and a CADILLAC off Gary's property. Exhibit 12 from Mr. Needles. Says no such thing. He only says that Roger and David Maynes towed a van off Gary's property and Gary was passed. David was bragging about getting arrested for trespassing on Gary's property. Well, if the old junk van sat on Gary's property for over ten years. And it did not run, move, and was never owned by Gary. But the DA wants to give the picture this van could have been used and David and Roger disposed of it. Please, explain why Gary would be pissed for them disposing of what Oakes would like to believe was evidence, or the possible van used. Give me a break, I'm certain if it was, he would have been relieved they got rid of the evidence. Oakes, you sir, are the dumbest DA in this country. You also claim that Kidnapping/murder/disposing of a van across the country lines has a five year statue of limitations. Murder DA jokes has no limitations nor does the evidence in its case. Disposing of evidence with possibly a murdered teen, disposed of in Canada, has no statue of limitations. You sir, must truly think the citizens of Oswego are morons. See attached comments, exhibit 12 and Jokes statue of limitations of five years, to help protect a convicted Murderer Steen. I do not know which ones more psychotic. Ocsd, DA office, or these suspects.

                                                                                                                      September 11/16


To Oakes
It can't be simple. Either way. You do not think outside of the box, let alone inside of it. Richard or as your exhibit 12 mr. Needles calls him Dicki Murtagh actually plastered across the internet one night, that he and a employee did haul a van out of Fernwood, off valley road at a red house. Now this red house was very Good friends to Michael Bohrer. It couldn't be Oakes that they covered their ass by moving a van off Gary's property. So they could move this second van on Valley Road. And say it was the van they moved off Gary's. Oakes you can not possibly be that stupid. It's common sense. In which case you lack a shit load, I believe you should track down Mr dicki and request he explain the white van they removed off Valley Road, in Fernwood, for Roger Breckenridge. Around the time of Heidi. If you need a copy of those messages. They can easily be supplied. You also cannot claim it wasn't Murtagh who posted them. A reporter called him out online confirming it was indeed Richard Murtagh.
Omg please no mistake we (3 of us) picked up two vans at gt house ... Me roger & a 3rd person picked up a dift van in fern wood I can't tell you where it was but I'm sure I can drive right to there like I did last week going to Gary's house ( that I had only been to twice before in the 90's
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:25 PM
It was a red house is all we can remember
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:17 PM
I'm sorry I don't I'd just be guessing but one of my helpers just asked me if I remember going to fern wood to get a white van at 1st didn't remember but after talking a bit I do now
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:08 PM
No in fern wood ( I think that's how you spell it
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:05 PM
Omg I don't know I just remember him coming to me wanting me to pick one up for him .. Never gave it much thought till tonight talking it over with my staff
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 10:55 PM
You all ready for this one ????? I do remember going with RB to fern wood to pick up a white van that he had to junk back around same time of the ha deal
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 10:52 PM
Copied right from, I think you need to start using the laws set in place that were meant to help victims. Not protect murderers.
I'd also explain to Dickie, those involved. Do not get the reward money.
Is there still a cash award up & if so how much is it .. What you got to do to receive it ty
Posted on Judge in Heidi Allen case reverses decision, will allow DA to respond to wrongful conviction claim
9/19/2014 5:48 PM
Pretty sick Murtagh plastered that across the internet. Then requests the reward money. What a great guy. With zero conscience.

                                                                                                                                           September 11/16

Mrs. Duell testified about the register tape, items purchased and time...??
It strikes me as odd that "The time had to be entered into the memory of the cash register. (Tr. 1488)."

Could it be possible that the register tape was...manipulated when the deputy went back on August 11, 1994 to get the register tape from April 2, 1994? Mrs. Duell's OCSD file was tampered with on August 12, 1994.

RE: Questions to be answered
Deputy Curtis testified in the original trial that the money from the register was deposited in the bank. (DA's Statement of Facts does not state this.)

-Sergeant Lortie specifically calls Heidi a "confidential informant" and recognizes her name from working with the ACT team.
It appears his involvement with the case after this report became limited?

-Family, LE and Dodd's denial that Heidi was a "CI".

-Neither VanPatten nor Mrs. Duell notify Heidi or the family of the information dropped in public.? (Thinking they may have considering Brett would stay at Heidi's work until customer traffic picked up.)

-The informants card, photo, etc was "lost" from the time of the Heidi Center move until it was "found" in bulk storage within OCSD on May 16, 1995.

-Pre-trial Hearing Judge's acknowledgment that Dodd was not going to say what he was holding back as far as discovery.

-No mention whatsoever from either Defense or Prosecution during Gary's trial that Heidi may have been a confidential informant. Dodd didn't carry the card, photo, the original trial? There were 2 prints on the card taken to the Heidi Center right after the disappearance but LE used notebook prints instead? One would think the prints taken in a controlled manner would be more relevant?

-Mrs. Burr recently signs a statement about Heidi's involvement with LE in an informant capacity up to a short time before her disappearance. Brett's recent dialogue with Oakes about Heidi being afraid of a "coke-head" that lived near the D&W.

**"Good arrest, good conviction"....PPPfffttt**

                                                                                                                                            September 9/16

Lorti Report

“Writer and VanPatten returned to the store and were informed that Inv. Scruton could not locate C.I. file for Allen. VanPatten was Allens contact for ACT Team so writer asked VanPatten if he turned the file over to Inv. Scruton. He did not recall Allen as a C.I. in 1991 until writer reminded him. VanPatten then called the office and had someone check his mailbox. The file was located and relayed to the crime scene.”
Sgt. Lortie’s report 4/27/94

When you see the date of this report 4/27/94 you have to wonder if it was the original or a revised report. Otherwise why would it take 23 days to get it done.

I think everyone knows cops will not rat out other cops but honest cops will not take a hit for crooked ones either. If you ask an honest one to give a statement or testify they will often tell you the facts as they happened. They will not volunteer anything someone in authority has to ask. In many cases those in authority know or suspect the answers they will get so they do not ask the questions, i.e. Watergate and Serpico.

At any rate that just may be what is happening in the paragraph above. After 23 days Sgt. Lortie has had time to think over what has been going on.


VanPatten somehow manages to lose Allen’s picture ID card indicating she was an informant, and he does it in the parking lot where she works.


Three years after working directly with Allen as a Confidential Informant he tells Sgt. Lortie he does not remember her. Then in the next breath VanPatten knows exactly where to find Allen’s missing C.I. file.

At that point someone should have been asking VanPatten to account for his whereabouts on the morning of April 3/1994.


re Timleine
According to testimony from Brett Law, he left the store at 6:35am BUT according to the book “Where’s Heidi” page 27, Brett left at 7:15am. Which is it? It makes a VERY big difference. 40 minute difference. The difference between the inmates being truthful or not.
According to the timeline, there were no customers between 7:20am and 7:38am. That would leave 18 minutes for the “confession” to be true.,-76.3313641/427+Kenyon+Road,+Mexico,+NY+13114/@43.4530542,-76.337867,12z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x89d9cf6a2081d4f5:0x52037ef6ff1a0e38!2m2!1d-76.2014678!2d43.4278613!3e0

It takes about 16 minutes one way from the D&W to Gary’s house.

                                                                                                                                            September 8/16

Questions That Should Be Answered!

Sunday, April 3 1994 @ 2:00 AM was the beginning of daylight savings time.

Was every witness interviewed asked if they were referencing their recollection of time based on standard time or had they set their clocks ahead and based their statements on savings time????

“The first entry on the tape was 4:06 when the cash register was turned on.”
“When Heidi arrived at work she set the time on the cash register”
“The detail tape then showed three zeros and then gave the correct time of 5:55 am.”
Therefore Heidi “started her drawer at five minutes to 6:00 am.”

If Heidi was setting the time on the register because of daylight savings time Then the register should have shown the time as 4:55 when it was turned on.

Why was it at 4:06? AM? PM?
Did the register keep the correct time?

“6:16 am no sale entry on detail tape (Tr. 1515)”
Nine minutes before her boyfriend Bret Law left the store
someone hits the no sale button presumably to open the cash drawer. Did anyone balance the money in the drawer with the sales listed on the tape? Was all accounted for? If the answer is yes then what was the reason for the no sale entry?

At 5:45 Bret and Heidi wake up.
At 5:50 the two get in a car and drive to the store.

Are we talking about a couple of average teenagers or is this Wonder Woman and Superman?
Come on, who do you know that wakes up from a sound sleep, gets dressed, brushes their hair, maybe teeth and puts on makeup and is out the door in five minutes?

Scientifically impossible
If you actually looked at the timeline.
At 7:41 stitson arrives, at 7:41 a man cashes out he buys one pack of smokes and two newspapers. At 7:41 Stitson describes the store clerk missing. At 7:42 Richard shows up buys smokes. In the mean time. The 7:41 customer packs his smokes in his car, watches Richard enter and exit the store. Mean while stitson in the store waiting on the clerk, as Richard passes him, cashes out and is never seen by Stitson. As Richard cash out time was 7:42. So the kidnapping didn't take place from 7:41 -7:42 it took place between 7:43/7:44. At 7:45 a cop was on the scene and at 7:45 a van is seen in the town of Mexico ten miles away. By science you'd have to be traveling over 150 mph to make it in two minutes to where the van was spotted in Mexico. The time line is scientifically impossible. How does Heidi, the newspaper customer,Stitson and thibodeau all appear on the scene together. No one saw Gary or Heidi being taken. How do you travel 150 mph, on snowy roads?
                                                                                                                                            September 7/16

Here's another exaggerated example of OCSD, AND DODD.
SOMETIME between 7:30 / 7:45 a.m. umm not. Richard never cashed out until 7:42 a.m. the van was seen three minutes later at 7:45 a.m. we know she had cashed Richard out at 7:42 a.m. So between 7:43/7:45 is the only time that van could have been spotted in Mexico. Two minutes. Use a speed converter online you are up over one hundred and fifty mph, they'd have been traveling to be in Mexico at 7:45 a.m. Dodd did nothing but cross witnesses with other witnesses and confuse everyone with so many times, dates and so many witnesses. He messed up. Four people would have been on the scene. Not just Richard or Stitson. But the man whom bought the two newspapers clearly says he sat in his car for a minute and watched Richard exit the store. So that would have taken place after 7:42 a.m. we can determine these times due to the cash register receipt and the evidence Dodd entered in court on his time line of events. Which none of it adds up. There was no 7:30 7:45 a.m. Richard had not cashed out yet. So if the van was seen between these times. It clearly wasn't Richards van.
                                                                                                                                            September 7/16

Bobby Wheeler

April 14, 1994-Bobby interviews Dan Barney "at length" but doesn't take notes or record the interview.?
April 14, 1994-Gary becomes "prime suspect" in briefing which Bobby attended.
May 19, 1994-Bobby receives fax from MA police about Gary's warrant.
May 25, 1994-Gary arrested on the warrant.
Late July 1994-Bobby and Herb interview both inmates.

April 18, 1995-Bobby testifies at a pre-trial (Huntley) hearing that he didn't know Gary was a suspect before his warrant arrest.
May 1, 1995-Fahey files pre-trial Motion, in part, to request sanctions against Bobby for lying during the pre-trial Hearing (Huntley Hearing).
                                                                                                                                            September 7/16

Re:Gary Thibodeau
Whoever you are supporting Gary Thibodeau and ripping apart the filing from the DA, outstanding. Some things you posted. I missed. Keep it up. They deserve any humiliation that comes their way. If the community cared about their environment and the sick things the DA and Officers in that county have done. They'd have a better community and safer community for themselves and their families. Instead the majority doesn't stop to smell the roses. If they did. They'd realise they do not smell so grand after all. It takes a big person to not only help, but to spend time paying attention and caring about others. Many have helped. Many still are. I can not wait to see these aholes from Oswego face the lies they've dished out for years. I can only imagine how many other cases they have botched to get a conviction. Dodd was told then you have zero evidence. He will be told again, in supreme. How awful a person they all are for incarceration of an innocent man. Dodd deserves prision, Oakes to be removed from office, sheriff Todd deserves to be a greeter at wal Mart. Petrowski deserves a set of cuffs. Wheeler prison, along with any idiot officer that helped go along with the bull shit in 1994/1995. I pray that they all have repercussions they can not stop. They have put many people through abuse of power. That's exactly what they used to get any convictions through that made zero sense. Gary deserves more than just his freedom. Hopefully with good citizens like you Gary will gain just that.
                                                                                                                                              September 3-4/16

Gary Thibodeau

What is wrong with this timeline found at the end of Oakes’ Statement of Facts filed during the Hearing?

No other customers at the D&W between 6:35am that Brett testified to and a customer, Mr. Wiltse at 7:38am? Why do notes from the Exhibits show there WERE other customers that made purchases between those times?

If Heidi was scheduled from 6am to 3pm, why is 4:06am first reported on the register tape if Heidi didn’t arrive until 4:55am(excluding the hour of DST)?

This timeline Can Not be accurate but was presented at Gary’s trial.


                                                                                                                                                   September 2/16







Today's  Quote  September 1/2016

 “Too much agreement kills a chat.”
Eldridge Cleaver

Oakes and Dodd, including Todd
They are not dealing with a small town attorney. Lisa Peebles is a powerful person. If anything happened to Gary, it does not mean any of this is going to stop. Gary asked Lisa if something did happen to finish this case. To clear his name and to bring Heidi family the truth. So no matter what they do. This is not going away. Gary's case will hit supreme court and national news. It's far from done. It has only just begun. Oakes is simply a coward. He questions the integrity of the sheriff dept and the investigator but stands by the fraudulent case. Then you got Todd who says he had very little to do with this case back then but stands by a case he seems to have had very little to do with. But a whole lotta say on what's factual or untrue. Wouldn't be because his brother helped Dodd prosecute this case. Couldn't be to much pride, based on nothing but lies. Pathetic. Supreme court on Gary's last case. They made it very clear. That just the diary wasn't enough to over turn the conviction. Many cases have been over turned for far less and many have had probes in to the cases and activing investigators, and DA office. Gary will go home. It's just a matter of time.
                                                                                                                                                   September 1/16


Today's  Quote  August 31/2016

“If you don't think too good, don't think too much”
Ted Williams

I hope Garys lawyer files a big fat lawsuit on the county when all this is over.
                                                                                                                                                   August 31/16

Gary Thibedeou
What is the Oswego Sheriff hiding? This case was a giant miscarriage of justice. Let Gary free before he dies in prison.
                                                                                                                                                   August 31/16

I think that has been the plan all along. Oaks keeps waiting until the eleventh hour to file documents. He and Dodd hope Thibedeou will die in jail and that will be the end of it all. This whole thing has the same stench as the Tony Pauldine trial and the get-out-of-jail-free deal that was given to Smegelsky.




Today's  Quote  August 30/2016

“If I were dying my last words would be: Have faith and pursue the unknown end”

Oliver Wendell Holmes Sr.


Gary Fiasco

Re Todd, Moody, Oakes, Dodd
"After twenty years I can't believe I have to tell you there is another van. " Wescott
"If you look in to reports of a van watching the video store CLERK in 1994 you might find information on the van." -Bohrer 1995 FBI statement.
"I asked Murtagh if I had hauled a stolen van used in Heidi kidnapping." -Steen
"The van we hauled off Gary's property sat out there for over ten years." -Breckenridge
" I do recall moving a van for Breckenridge back then off Valley Road. -online statement from Richard Murtagh
"Steen and Roger were talking about getting rid of the van, I was afraid Roger would go with Steen. She left came back. Roger left early that morning his ex wife says.
Ocsd, and the rest of the bafoons also have Stitson there on the scene by their time line as Richard and Gary would have pulled off this crime.
There was a scratch in the panel of a bath room wall. On the interstate headed towards buffalo. The said Heidi Allen was a rat. Hmmm wonder who was using the interstate towards Canada. Maybe the fellas junking the van. Just a guess. This will all be exposed, in supreme.  Jennifer Wescott was given repeated chances to tell the entire truth. I think even her chances are up. Such a believer in God Jennifer was during the hearing. She better start praying.

                                                                                                                                                         August 30/16


Dear Todd, Oakes and Dodd
If Dave Stinson was at the D&W from 7:41-7:45 and Richard bought cigarettes at 7:42 plus kidnapped Heidi, why didn't Stinson see the crime?

Never mind, it'll come up in the appeal trial.
                                                                                                                                                   August 28-29/16


Time line at D&W doesn't make sense: From the DA Statement of Facts.
7:41 Stinson arrives at the D&W
7:42 last transaction on register...Richard bought cigs.
Stinson must have entered the store just after 7:42 between 7:42 and 7:45.
7:45 Stinson waves down Deputy Curtis 3 minutes after Richard left. How could he not have seen Richard taking her?

Stinson was there from 7:41 - 7:45 when he flagged down the Deputy.

Richard bought cigs at 7:42 and left presumably with Heidi Allen and Gary kidnapping her but Stinson didn't see him.

So Stinson must have entered the store after Richard left and no Heidi.

Why didn't Stinson see Richard kidnap Heidi, he was there one minute before the last sale at 7:42 which we are told was Richards.

7:45 Mrs. Fabin sees van swerving behind her in Mexico
7:48 Brittany Link sees Richards van at Garys

So that means Stinson didn't see him but he was there.
Richard drove from the D&W at 7:42 to Mexico and then to Gary's all in 3 minutes.

Who was there from 7:42 to 7:45 when Stinson waved down Deputy Curtis?
How could this possibly happen?  Why isn't there a time for when Bivens went by the D&W in the DA's Facts? He said he didn't recall  telling a deputy that he dove by between 8-8:30 and saw 2 men abducting Heidi....impossible, Stinson said she was gone when he entered the store at about 7:42.

There's something really wrong going on here.

                                                                                                                                                       August 25/16


Watch key witness in Heidi Allen kidnapping case take lie detector (video)


                                                                                                                                            May 11/16









Today's  Quote  May 6/2016

"Religion is the opium of the masses."
Karl Marx


Do You Want This Guy Spraying Hazardous Chemicals

In The Parks Where Your Children and Pets Play?


Council Poised To Reconsider Herbicide Vote
Council awarding contract to fireman's business, ???????




                                                                                                                           Jan 11/16



Neither the Federal nor the State governments

have ever mandated that the City of Oswego

raise its water or sewer rates.

Anyone who says they did is a F**KING LIAR!!!!!!








Today's Quote  August 6/15

“It's your life. Live it with people who are alive. It tends to be contagious.”
Peter McWilliams


Oswego Firefighter Sentenced

Last night in Minetto Town Court Oswego firefighter and former Minetto fire chief Joe Smegelsky Jr. received the maximum sentence of $1000 and two years probation despite arguments from the District Attorney Greg Oaks and defense lawyer Timothy Kirwan. They had hoped for a lesser sentence but based on information in Smegelsky's pre sentencing report the maximum punishment was handed down.


An audit by the State Comptrollers office found that Smegelsky had taken funds and used a department credit card to purchase a handgun, automotive parts and assorted items. He also created a fictitious company which sold fire equipment from undisclosed sources to the Minetto Department. District Attorney Oaks repeatedly argued for special treatment because Smegelsky had paid back slightly less than half of what the Comptrollers office found. However the fact remains he paid nothing back until he was caught.



Joeseph Smegelsky Jr.


Below is a copy of the District Attorney's plea bargain and his explaination of how they arrived at it.

If you enjoy fiction you will love this.








Today's Quote, January 26/15

"I am not an enemy of the negro, we want him here among us; he is the only laboring class we have."
Nathan Bedford Forrest


One week ago we celebrated Martin Luther King Day. I am sure members of the Ozwego Fire Department seized the opportunity to rack up some double overtime but that is about the only use they have for non-whites.

Since its inception in 1876 the Oswego Fire Department has been as white as the driven snow, with respect to the color of its members that is. In its 139 year history there has never been an Asian, Black or Hispanic member. If you think this somehow reflects the population then you better take off your blinders. Oswego’s elected officials and Personnel Department have long allowed department members to live as far away as Montour Falls, Watertown, and Groton. There is no way you can cast a net that far and say, that population is reflected by our department.

In the late 1980’s there was young Black man working for the local cable company who sometimes frequented the Fire House Tavern as did members of the OFD. The firefighters exam had been announced and he was asking some of the OFD members if they thought he had a chance of getting in. He received all kinds of encouragement while he was there but after he left I overheard two of the Heroes chuckling and say no way they were going to let him in the department. “We have Guinias and Polocks and that is as integrated as we are going to get.” I do not know if the man ever took the test but the fact is that department remains as segregated as the day it was formed. They are allowed to operate as their own little fiefdom picking and choosing their own white membership and no one has the balls to put a stop to it.

The next time our Senators and Congressmen come around for their photo ops with our Hero Department we should all point out to the national media how they are supporting a racist organization. Perhaps we should ask the NAACP how this has been overlooked by their organization for so long.
                                                                                                                            Jan 26/15





Joseph Smegelsky


Audit of Minetto fire chief charged with misusing $22K in funds for guns, motorcycle parts completed
"This individual had keys to the cash register and went on a spending spree with the fire company's money," DiNapoli said in a statement.

                                                                                                                    Dec 20/14

Today's Quote, July 2/14


“Thieves respect property. They merely wish the property to become their property that they may more perfectly respect it.”
G. K. Chesterton


Oswego's finest screwing the taxpayers once again spotted at Dicks Sporting Goods in Great Northern Mall on 6/22/14.....didn't know they sold food there....or were they perhaps getting a new set up clubs at our expense??? Would still like to see the tab for the turning stone "conference" they went to....a whole weekend at the turning stone??? meals, rooms, drinks, etc???? The worst part is it will never change. No matter who is mayor they will always be controlled by the f.d. and no one will run against our current council members. Oswego has become homeowners to few (I stand corrected good homeowners) and is a city full of renters.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14

That was probably just Smegelsky picking up some guns. They should be checking the video at Dicks to see who was with him. That hero should be arrested too.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14

Minetto Chief
People like that are paranpiod about someone else stealing what they just stole so naturally he would need to get a gun to protect all his or should I say our stuff.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14


Ambulance Numbers

Yes, they are not as correct as they should be as I left off the 2 additional firemen that go out on Ambulance #2 and many of the other expenses that can be attributed to the ambulance service . In reality here is a $300,000 loss each year without he expense of a new ambulance. The point is, we will never make a profit on this service; have a fully qualified ambulance located in Oswego (Menter) that can handle all emergencies; could cut 15 men from the department with all their benefits and return $2,000,000 to the taxpayers; while cutting the long term obligation of retirement and the padding of such for years to come.
Unfortunately, the obtuse Mayor, Council, and most of all ,Fire Chief, have another agenda and it is not in the best interest of he taxpayers. McCrobie probably was, at one time, a good fireman, but as a chief and leader lacks in total credibility. The way overtime is handed out only shows that he is helping to bump up he retirement of the soon to retire firemen by thousands of taxpayers dollars. There is a belief that hey will all get their turn is the OT merry-go-round, but the fact is, the tier 6 firemen will never see that benefit. The new anti padding law passed and signed by he governor will not allow tier 6 employees to add any more than $15,000 to their retirement benefits, and they will now have to go for the last 5 years instead of 3. If I were a tier 6, I would tell the tier 5's to stick their $50.00 they pay for the OT and start taking their share of the OT, because it will all be ending when all the tier 5's retire.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14

Minetto Fire Chief
I asked a few weeks ago if anybody knew what was going on with Minetto's Fire Chief well here you go.
Stole $20,000 from the fire department. I'm going to guess he possibly stole more since he's being held with no bail. Coinsedently though he just bought a piece of property behind his own for $20,000. Don't believe me? Here's the property taxes. Coincident? You should take a drive by his property to check it out. Constantly cars & trucks are being 'stored' there and then disappear. Camper was there for a whole summer now that's gone. I even seen the Minetto's fire truck pull up to his vacant property hook on a utility trailer with all the fireman in it and take off. Now Minetto Fire Dept has plenty of property to store at their station. Why would they use his? I offend wondered why a property owner who only has 1/4 acre of grass need a 0 point turn lawn mower? Probably the fire departments.

                                                                                                                    July 2/14




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RE: Oswego Corruption
Here are some places you should send your complaints.
Do not waste your time with the county DAs office.

Office of the State Comptroller

Division of Investigations
59 Maiden Lane
30th Floor
New York, N.Y. 10038
212-383- 2502



Office of the State Comptroller
Division of Investigations
110 State Street

Albany, N.Y.   12236-0001


New York State Office of the Attorney General
Public Integrity Unit
120 Broadway, 22nd Floor
New York, N.Y. 10271



New York State Reigonal Office of the Attorney General
615 Erie Boulevard West, Suite 102
Syracuse, NY 13204
Phone Number: (315)448-4800

Consumer Frauds Number: (315)448-4848
Fax Numers:
(315)448-4853 (Main Number)
(315)448-4851 (Consumer Frauds Bureau)
Office Hours: 8:30 a.m. to 6:00 p.m., Monday thru Friday

United States Justice Department
Organized Crime & Racketeering
James Handley Federal Building
Syracuse, N.Y. 13261

Federal Bureau of Investigation
James Handley Federal Building
Syracuse, N.Y. 13261

New York State Police
1220 Washington Avenue
Building 22
Albany, NY 12226-2252


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Fulton, NY

6 East 12th Street,

Fulton, NY 13069



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