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Today's Quote August 18/2018

For the happiest life, days should be rigorously planned, nights left open to chance.
Mignon McLaughlin



what if

its curious that ten years after the fact that heidi's bracket show up in her sister mailbox after 10 years was that a sign that she might have gone into a witness protection program or was there a sick another motive 

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What if

What if Gary is innocent because there was no proof he was involved in Heidi disappearance and law enforcement had tunnel vision because they wanted to ‘get’ someone to placate Heidi’s family and the community, and for personal gain


What if Pietroski dropped the ball on a new investigation by not asking Bohrer the right questions or pushing for clearer answers?

What if Mike Bohrer is a psychopath capable of harming a young woman and the Courts accepted his denial and drama but he really knows what happened?

What if the jurors carefully considered the 'expert' witness in the auto field who couldn't ID or describe the vehicle he saw without repeated prodding by law enforcement and who said, "I don't want to send an innocent man away.", when put to task about falsification on insurance forms for personal gain and changing his time of going by the D&W on the morning of April 3, 1994.

What if people start telling the complete truth and nothing but the truth?

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To My Friends in Granby:


I have alway been interested in Granby and I have been involved with the political process in Granby since 1989. I have collected petitions for everyone and I go by the rules and laws. You have to be a resident and a voter to sign a petition.


The reason I am writing this is I am dumbfounded at what I have come across and I want all of Granby to know. Cheryl Homes is running for town council. A person approached me and told me she was passing her petition around at a firemens’ doings. In order for me to get copies of her petition to challenge the names, you have to do it with three days after she turns them in. I was four days, so I was late, so I failed to challenge. Her copies are — surprise— what games do the Holmes’ think they can get away with? All games.


On her sheet she signed at the bottom were people from Cicero, Constantia, Camden, Phoenix, Duer Street in Oswego, Manhattan Avenue…: 23 signatures, only 13 are legal.


The next five pages are collected by Leslie Holmes, chairman of the Republican Party in Granby. He collected from Richland, Division Street in Fulton and 2430 route 176 in Volney.


The next four pages are the same signatures as on the first page. Repeats. What kind of game is this? Do these people who signed know it is not legal to sign more than once? How did he do it?


Take notice: Even Peter Holmes and Mattia Holmes signed five times.



Do these people expect to get away with this dishonesty? Mr. Homes is chairman; Mrs. Holmes is a member and so is Peter Holmes, a member of the Republican Party.


If the Board of Elections accepts this, something is wrong with our system.


Rose Anthony

Town of Granby N.Y.


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Sullivan For Sheriff?

a vote for Sullivan is a vote for the good old boy system, and, privilege.  He's  relied on it all his life, and wouldn't  be where he is without it. His criminal record was covered up because of it. Kinda makes one wonder, given  Gary's  fate,  just what else he helps cover up. Purse snatching on a old woman? The man is a perfect

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Trump Administration Hit With 7 Major Environmental Setbacks In Court In Past Week

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Today's Quote August 17/2018

Many a man has fallen in love with a girl in a light so dim he would not have chosen a suit by it.

Maurice Chevalier

What If listen. Lisa Peeblea started crying. This hurt they've caused has to have a point of serenity for everyone. No Heidi isn't the only victim as her sister insists. Lisa Buske said, "WHAT IF," Gary took the where abouts of Heidi to his grave. Anyone ever ask her, WHAT IF, she is wrong?
                                                                                                                              August 17/18

Smiling Putin
Why is it that Putin is smiling now everytime I see him on TV? Gee could it possibly be that the Man that he has been grooming for all these years is getting things done to his liking? Turning our allies against us, Spending money like a drunken Russian Sailor on Border walls, huge tax cuts for the rich, draining the Social Security System, preparing to make cuts to Medicare and Medicaid. This Puppet Master is doing an excellent job pulling those strings. He knows that it is time for his puppet to pay him back for all the favors that he has done for puppet Man the last 40 years or so. The puppet Master has his puppet (which by the way is a poodle) right exactly where he wants him. IT IS NOW TIME TO WAKE UP REPUBLICAN CONGRESS AND FELLOW REPUBLICANS! CAN YOU NOT SEE WHAT IS GOING ON HERE? IT IS NOW TIME TO PUT YOUR COUNTRY, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA BEFORE POLITICAL PARTY! The "PUPPET MASTER" is out to financially break this Country and tear our allies away from us and over to them. Whatever Puppet Master wants he gets, he knows just what strings to pull and this Puppet never resists or will he ever not DO what Master wants. Hillary Clinton said at the debate "You will be Putin's Puppet" Boy was She 100% right on target, a very smart women with a lot of political experience. They say we learn from our mistakes and in November 2016 I made the biggest one of my life voting for this BOZO and I do mean BOZO! I have been around long enough to witness twelve (12) Presidents and have never seen such an IDIOT in my life. NEVER had I seen one LIE like this one does, an average of 16 lies a day and here Bill Clinton told ONE lie and Vice President Pence thought because he told a lie that he should have been impeached. What has he said to Putin's Puppet about all his lying? NOTHING PEOPLE.ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! Is this being hypocritical or what? Again IT IS TIME FOR FELLOW REPUBLICANS TO WAKE UP, JUST BECAUSE THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESS IS IGNORANT AND AFRAID DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU HAVE TO BE. PUT YOUR COUNTRY BEFORE WHAT THE "PUPPET MASTER" WANTS! THIS PUPPET IS DEFINITLY NO GEORGE WASHINGTON, IF HE CHOPPED DOWN THE CHERRY TREE HE WOULD HAVE LIED AND SAID "THE DEMOCRATS DID IT"!
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Oswego Makes The List Of Worst School Districts
Where are the best teachers in Upstate NY? See list of 40 districts, ranked


Worst school districts in Upstate New York, graded for 2018


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re:Facts my ass
Most would find the thought of an officer involved not very likely, however one
that knows the status of the Sheriffs Dept at that time, an environment of tough
guy weight lifters, yea steroids too! the department had no supervision at that
time most alcoholic officers were just retiring and were no example to the new
officers, I myself have set in the front seat of a patrol car on a beer run when
we tore the front end right off the car, we made it so the car was repaired and
back in service with the help of a local body shop by the next morning, we
should have taken the troopers unit, it was parked in a better spot. I hate
profiling, and also a 60 year old and a degree holder in law and justice, the
FBI profile was on the nose when applied to this officer, would like to know
where he is and what he has done since then.
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Kim Seager, from day one you have been a disservice to the children you were sworn to protect! Not many are for you, I have seen 4 of your signs. You do not deserve to be re-elected. You and you alone are responsible for your monstrous treatment of children . DSS has had to take you to court to protect the children when you wanted them to stay in dangerous homes. Give it up Seager, you are a failure and I can’t wait until January when your nasty self is gone! By the way, you don’t have a powders chance in hell to win the republican primary, I am campaigning against you, and I’m a Democrat! You lied to me and Justice for Erin, in 2008, assuring me on the phone if we supported you, that you would do everything in your power to make sure we never had another Erin! I HATE LIARS! You tried to make many more Erin’s! Just shut your nasty mouth and go away! The children don’t deserve the treatment they have been given by you!!!!

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No comments on everyone’s favorite Family Court Judge! The one who thinks keeping the kids home either physically and sexually abusive and neglectful! They are better off home because at least they’re with family - really?
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Today's Quote August 16/2018

The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.
Ayn Rand

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Great news. Lisa Pebbles said in her article that she is going to pursue a wrongful conviction avenue and other steps to fight what she feels was a the justice system.

So all you "players" in this railroading of G.T. start sweating again.

I knew this was going to happen. Read her article she is very upset about how the case and appeals went.
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re: Facts My Ass
I could not agree more. I posted here over a year ago that the only logical suspect was the cop. I've been a student of criminal psychology my entire life and this is a classic case of the "blue wall" protecting a bad cop. The DA and judge in this case turned a potential political disaster into a win-win for the real criminals in their set-up,prosecution and wrongful conviction of an innocent man.There are nearly 1/4
as many wrongfully convicted in prison as there are the guilty.
DA's and crooked judges have made their careers on sensational cases that were complete frame-ups from the start. Happens every day in every state in this country.

Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth" -A.C.Doyle-
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What If listen. Lisa Peeblea started crying. This hurt they've caused has to have a point of serenity for everyone. No Heidi isn't the only victim as her sister insists. Lisa Buske said, "WHAT IF," Gary took the where abouts of Heidi to his grave. Anyone ever ask her, WHAT IF, she is wrong?
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NY Pizzeria Arson Murder
determined that the deadly fire at the NY Pizzeria was
arson.FACT: Arsonists are hired by the property owners
or those hoping to acquire the property. Who benefited from
the fire?FACT: The arsonist is known to the OPD
as he was arrested by them on 2 unrelated incidents. I'm
wondering if those 2 police reports and court records were
destroyed? I'm
also wondering why at the time of these 2 incidents that a
certain OPD officer had his house painted by the Wet Paint
Co. for $1200 and... Hold on to your dicks!... paid for by
the NY Pizzeria. The NYS OCTF will be taking depositions.If
you have information please contact them. Those with
knowledge of the crimes, who may have found their conscience
after all these years, need to step up and do the right
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Today's Quote August 15/2018

Happiness is a direction, not a place.

Sydney J. Harris



Hafner is coming back.

But don’t get excited it is only to cover while judge McCarthy is on medical leave.  Bad news is judge Todd is coming back too. Didn’t know he was gone? He never really was here. Because his brother is the sheriff he can’t hear cases that involved that department so he has been working in other counties.


Yes we have been paying his salary all this time and he has not been working for us. When his brother finally leaves Tod will be back. Should we be glad or just keep paying to keep him out of Oswego County?


Drive by his house 59 East Utica Street in Oz and you will see campaign signs for Allison Nelson. He has probably told her of all the perks you get when you are judge that can’t hear cases in the court you are elected to.


Judges are supposed to be neutral and not participate in political campaigns but he is a Todd and they don’t have to play by the same rules as everyone else.


Rule 4.1: Political and Campaign Activities of Judges and Judicial Candidates in General




It is doubtful Todd even belongs to the American Bar Association as they have standards and codes of conduct he could never hope to attain. Many remember his participation in the law firm of Ciezeski Todd and Reynolds. The conduct of those three was so reprehensible they couldn’t even get malpractice insurance.

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More Facebook Confessions


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There have been so many submissions using the word FACTS, a piece of information presented as having objective reality even then it is not a fact because we do not know if we have all information about the fact. So what we have is a hypothesis, a hunch and until the hunch is supported by a solid premise it is not a fact, we have only seen the information given at trial and in court supported documents and who were presented by our D.A. and our Sheriffs dept. So we only have the facts presented to us. Here's some FACTS that were not presented to us.

1. the young informant was not a department informant, she was a single officers informant.

2. the same officer who left her informant card at the place she was taken from.

3. the same officer who got her the job there.

4. the same officer who lived within 3 miles of her abduction location.

5. the same officer who got a free sandwich there almost every morning, but never until her boyfriend left the parking lot. explains the meat on the slicer but no food rang up.

6. the same officer who said he was flagged down, no one knows who flagged him down, he just showed up.

7. the same officer that could have seen an opportunity when the van pulled in and out.

8. the same officer who did not know Gary was a suspect.

9. the same officer who led the investigation where it led.

10. the same officer who did not have to release any info about what they were working on, because of informant confidentiality.


so if these were the only facts presented, would a jury find him guilty?

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Stormy said they had an affair, Trump says they didn’t.

Who do you believe?

The fake blonde with big tits or

Stormy Daniels

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Isn't this the truth. Curious to what it is. Click the link. Hint Gary Thibodeau!!!

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Today's Quote August 13-14/2018

Word of mouth is the best medium of all.
William Bernbach

Gary Thibodeau dies in prison at age 64

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'Dick M'
Recently saw a brief discussion where you claim a piece of carpet was taken from Richards van and junked with the van Roger and others took from Gary's property.

I really hate for people to believe things that aren't true so let me educate you. Since, clearly, you would rather believe incorrect hearsay.

First, you do know as a fact that the blue van on his property was there when Oswego County Sheriff's searched his property twice before Roger stole it? You also know that cadaver dogs were used on his property too? What was the police comment about the searches? 'We didn't expect to find anything.'? Funny...that blows their theory all to hell then and proves the inmates not credible.

If you had been at the trial or read the transcript, you would know the details of the piece of carpet that was taken from Richard's van.

Starting on page 2341 of the original transcript, you would have read the details so as not to spew your lies. The details are conveniently left out of the Statement of Facts that Greg filed. I know the facts and you are a liar. If you want to look for yourself-refer to exhibits TT and UU. What did the FBI agent Chris Allen testify to again? Oh yeah, no link to Heidi in Richards van or Gary's property.

What other bullshit lies do you have so someone can make you look like a horse's ass?

Oh yeah, the wire taps you claim as a fact. Wrong again. In a letter from Dodd- '6. No tapes or other electronic recordings exist which the People intend to introduce at trial.' Dodd was untruthful in his prosecution but I believe that statement because there was no pre-trial hearing to suppress evidence (Mapp Hearing, for your information, is to suppress evidence).

What else do you have, Dick?

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Re: The Real World
Interesting and ironically, there 'were no fingerprints whatsoever on the counter' at the D&W and a deputy allowed Mrs. Duell to deposit the register till instead of fingerprinting the currency. The newspaper on the floor was sent for testing. What about fingerprints from the customers that left money on the counter after Heidi disappeared? Still, there were none. Were both counters checked? If not, why not?
How do explain those facts, Greg (with FACTS not what you think)? I'll give you a hint-Kleist and Curtis.
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Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense....Death RIP.
I guess they think they can rest easy now...maybe, maybe not.

- Is that person who said in 2014 court.." who do you think you're kidding Oswego" an FBI agent?
- Will the DOJ, NYS ATTY, FBI etc. pursue this if they think a crime has been committed?
- Will someone bring charges against all those involved?
- Will someone tell all about this?

To Lisa and her staff...we all thank you. You tried so hard but the fact that a corrupt judge held you back hurt your chances.
We know the truth and it is not over yet. So look over your shoulder for the rest of you life because at any time, somone will talk and you'll go down. NYS AG will not ignore this if they want to get re-elected.
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NYS ATTY??? Don’t count on anything from those people. I sent someone to those people about 1.5
to 2 years ago only to have them attacked and belittled by some nasty bitch who refused to give her name. Not to be forgotten the AGs office refused to pursue a case against sex offender John Gosek.


To Gary RIP.
You railroaded by the OCSD and others. But your time may still come.

Oakes, Dodd, King, OCSD, Jenn Wescott, Bivens, Stinson and others tick tock tick tock tick tock.
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Gary Thibodeau
This is far from over. If anyone has any information regarding Heidi Allen or Gary Thibodeau reach out to Matt Mulcahy. Immediately. This is now being investigated by larger media sources. The public's furious. Murtagh you may want to head to Florida you lying pos.

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County Republicans
Just saw a photo from the recent Republican clambake featuring my old friend M Todd, A Nelson and G Sullivan, another old friend, side by side with some other laughable folks.
Where to begin...Todd, who I was shocked to hear a rumor was recently married, is supporting Sullivan to protect his ailing father's decades of misdeeds. Sullivan will simply be a continuation of the corruption that exists at the department and they are all terrified of what D Hilton's fresh eyes will uncover. Isn't it funny they call Todd's dad "Mo." Seems to be a more fitting name for his son. We knew it when we were kids, he just never seemed to realize it. Nelson's firm has been representing DSS for years so she's going to be useless in hearing the majority of cases and will cost the County huge amounts of money. Sullivan is nothing more than a criminal and a thug. Seems appropriate he lead the department and continue the corruption. Maybe he's just trying to protect himself and his mentor from prosecution.

If the Oswego County voters elect these losers they deserve everything they get. Wake up!
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Facebook Confessions




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Trump Signs Act Named After John McCain Without Mentioning McCain Once

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Gary T
R.I.P. Gary; you’re free from the liars who blamed you for all their failings. Advice to anyone in Oswego County; if you ever get arrested ask for a change of venue to a different county. There is no justice here.
                                                                                                                             August 13-14/18

Greg's prayers
Greg said "he was praying for the Thibodeaus." Greg acts like he had no part in the death of Gary Thibodeau. In reality he did. Neglect to allow him to get better medical treatment. So here's our prayer for you DA, oh and Greg shove your prayers up your ass. I believe you'll need them more.
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Today's Quote August 12/2018

The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.
Bertrand Russell

My apologizes. ...when I suggested Oakes didn't have any complicity, I was not aware of the many discrepancies you all pointed out. I have felt from the beginning this was a set up.
Again...apologizes. I also feel this goes deeper than anyone realizes.
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The Real World
Greg's theory of the magical no DNA existing in Richards van. Let's be honest Oakes. Was there any DNA at the scene, on Gary's property, in his home, in his Cadillac you siezed, the carpet, on their clothing, anywhere you looked, inside of Gary's woodstove. Zero DNA that linked either Thibodeau brother !!!
But there was plenty of DNA testing accomplished by the FBI who testified "There was no link between the Thibodeaus and Heidi Allen". Why did they believe this? Because through DNA testing of plenty of samples right down to pubic hair from the Thibodeau brothers, from their vehicles, to Gary's property, his home or his woodstove. There was absolutely nothing that linked the brothers to the crime. Right down to testing chicken bones found inside the wood stove. Because there was no link, Oakes believes it proves a person's guilt because their was a lack of DNA, finger prints so on, blah, blah, blah. The truth is Greg Oakes, you are full of shit.
So, if Oakes could please explain, if one piece of evidence that tests positive to a link in missing Heidi Allen would prove a person's guilt in the crime. Then how could multiple samples from many different locations and tested, all confirming having no DNA link, doesn't prove a person's innocence. I guess in Greg's world the right to due process, the right to build a defence. Never existed for Gary Thibodeau. Even with DNA testing his fate rested souly in the hands of the Sheriffs, the DA Office, and they prosecuted like it or not an American citizen with a theory that is not confirmed by science in any way. Their theory, is absolutely crazy. Gary Thibodeau should never have been prosecuted upon negative testing of all materials ruling him out as any sort of a suspect. The lack Greg, of DNA means, science proved that person's innocence, thus providing no link to that person, their things, their property all cleared of any link to missing Heidi Allen.
Bet your ass Oakes if you could or ever did find one thread of hair any where to link Gary, you'd use it as your leverage and bombshell to seal your case. Issue is, how many more samples do you need to not understand when you can't find the missing link, you are heading in the wrong direction? When is it Oakes gains any dignity? Playing God, is not Greg's place. Murder is murder. I two pray you hang for crimes against humanity. When the truth comes out. Like all things it eventually does, many are waiting, many know in time, you will all hang. We will be there, grateful the time has come that they finally came to deal w you. That's the real world.
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Murtagh believes- John 3:16- he truly believes..youll be famous for that line Dickie. Check this out, Murtaghs version of John 3:16

You don't want to miss this.!! (Attachment)

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Phantom Purchaser/Massachussettes
After 20 years the district attorney either of them still have yet to produce the witness who was Sharon Thibodeau Phantom Purchaser. Why can't they because that was a lie.
The Massachussettes story was a lie. In normal courts, receipts showing your where abouts, would typically prove Donald Dodds Massachussettes story was just as made up as Oakes wiped clean idea.
The receipts alone are evidence they were INNOCENT of this Massachussettes claim, aldo innocent by DNA of any link to the kidnapping. And that the couple was in Oswego per receipts to where they really were and their witnesses information was obviously wrong and not confirmed. Nor was their DNA, ever confirmed to any link.
If they ever saw from the public's point of view. They'd know one thing they look like corrupt, incompetant, politicians.

More proof no evidence of Heidi

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Time will tell Murtagh the monster you truly are. All the threats you've sent to so many. How about your sisters affair with a sheriff. Everyone now knows information was leaked to reporters. You sir are one disgusting human being. These shots were sent to me. You've pissed off many with not only this post but the multitude of threats you've sent to so many that have also been leaked to reporters. You sir will be greatly screwed in the end.

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Today's Quote August 11/2018

The best time to make friends is before you need them.
Ethel Barrymore

5 years
No, let's not be remotely easy on Oakes. If you think about how long the DA has been dragging this entire lie on. "Hopping in", gave him the chance to do the right thing.(remind you he still is) In which case he did NOT and has NOT. Not only does he have zero morals his "Non confidence" in the Sheriff Department, to now he has "full confidence". Is a strange move by any DA, It's as if he doesn't know which direction he's headed in. One things for sure. He's a 🐓, many know it. A REAL ♠ and now a LIAR like DODD, who was Oakes idol. Two peas in a pod. Including and not excluding Mary Rain all trained, worked with, for or at the OZ Da office. All have been complained about pulling the same shit Dodd has. Dodd trained them all well. Oakes is no different than a Mary Rain. He deserves a really long 🏖vacation. 😁
                                                                                                                             August 11/18

Butt Butt

“I don’t want to see Gary Thibodeau freed on a technicality”

Guess what? Technically, he was not ID’ed at the D&W.

-Technically, Gary’s alibi was not proven to be false, she was acquitted, in a Court of Law.

-Technically, the barmaid provided false testimony, and Dodd didn’t follow procedures in calling her as a witness, when she claimed the brothers were together the evening of April 2, 1994.

-Technically, there was no evidence of human remains in Richards van or on Gary’s property after several searches of each. Neither by cadaver dog indications nor by grid searching and forensic testing of the van or property.

-Technically, the theory presented by the prosecution during trial was impossible to have happened.

-Technically, Deputy Wheeler lied under oath when he stated he was unaware that Gary was a suspect in Heidi’s disappearance before his arrest in June when he, In Fact, was the contact person for the MA warrant and present at the briefing on April 15, 1994 when Gary became the ‘prime suspect’.

-Technically, the prosecutions own witnesses provided conflicting testimony at the original trial and the Hearing.

-Technically, the inmates did not provide any corroborating evidence as hearsay from Gary that wasn’t already in the news.

-Technically, Gary and Richard were not the only one’s suspected in Heidi’s disappearance. How were the others ruled out? A simple, “Did you do it?”, or more in depth interview?

-Technically, law enforcement knew about Dan Barney, Roger Breckenridge, Rick Murtaugh and Mike Bohrer in 1994. They weren’t cherry picked from the “bad” members of the community by the defense.

-Technically, the jurors went to the OCSD garage to see the van during trial. What was the purpose of that when there were photograph’s for them to look at and why was it allowed?

-Technically, judge King was going to allow the Defense the opportunity to call more witnesses based on the 11th hour document dump but then disallowed when motioned.

-Technically, judge King stated it was indisputable that Heidi was a CI but in his decision stated she wasn’t.

-Technically, Greg Oakes used testimony struck by the Appellate Division in 1999 (Molineux that judge Clary allowed) as argument in the Court of Appeals.

-Technically, there is no ‘overwhelming evidence’ of Gary’s guilt or the Appeals judges would not have a dissenter/s-1 from Rochester and 3 from Albany.

-Technically, Gary was accused because there was no way on this green Earth that ‘anyone’ alone could have taken Heidi forcefully and he was “a bad guy” related to the last person who admits to seeing Heidi.

-Technically, the inmates did not provide any corroborating or ‘overwhelming evidence’ that proved what they testified to as being accurate or a real representation of Facts.

-Technically, there will be Many people rotting in Hell for what they’ve done (if you believe in that sort of thing).

Think about this….if law enforcement, er, people who want to twist facts…if they want to claim that the blue van on Gary’s property was involved 1) Why didn’t they confiscate it based on Bivens original statement and 2) Why didn’t they forensically test it like they did Richards van?

**Second twisted fact-what indication was there that Richards van was cleaned before the forensic testing on April 9, 1994? Did the FBI lab detect bleach or other cleaning solution? How were the FBI able to test Many containers of debris from the van if it was ‘cleaned’. Surely, if the FBI detected cleaning solution they would have reported that and Dodd would not have tried the ‘van was seen at a car wash’ 19 days AFTER it was forensically tested.

**Third twisted fact-bone fragments from the furnace were determined to have “no morphological details that suggest a human origin”. Dodd-why did you not want Chris Allen to testify about the FBI report about the furnace debris? He was an ‘expert’. But yet you thought that Bivens was an expert in vehicle identification because he worked at an auto parts store. Just saying…some expert that couldn’t consistently ID the van he saw. One can hardly keep his stories straight. (Oakes fancies those kind of witnesses though when they fit his narrative.)

**Four twisted fact-this one is more like an outright lie-neither inmate received any deal for their testimony. Then how do you explain, ‘agree to averting Baldasaro…then we can justify probation.’ Check December 2, 2017 on this site for the legal documents/handwritten notes about this.

**Fifth twisted fact-Law enforcement had Gary and Richard under surveillance from day one including phone taps. This also is an outright lie. LE was at Gary’s house the evening of April 3, morning of April 4 because of a call. How could they be in MA at the same time? Dodd wrote a letter to the court stating there were no phone wire taps in existence that would be used for trial. Phone records from the MA witnesses were subpoenaed. The FBI headed surveillance on the Thibodeau’s mid to end of April 1994. This is when Richards van was seen at the car wash.

**Sixth twisted fact-evidence was suppressed in a back door arrangement. Highly illegal AND there was no pre-trial (Mapp) hearing for suppression of evidence. There was, however, a pre-trial hearing to suppress the statement supposedly made to the inmates by Gary and to review Gary’s prior ‘bad acts’ (Huntley and Sandoval).

Phew, it’s so exhausting keeping up with the lies. Greg, you don’t have ALL of us confused. Many CAN keep track of the lies vs the twisted facts vs the true/real facts. Because “We” want Justice for Gary and for Heidi.

Damn Greg, you know that most of this stuff is right from your own filings. That and reading the ENTIRE original transcript. And to think that people STILL believe the drivel, lies and twisted facts with everything that has come to light the past few years!! Do it, Greg. Have some integrity and fortitude to try the case yourself. Or would you chicken out and not retry him? Wouldn’t want the facts of the trial that you didn’t make so easily public knowledge to come out, now would you? Better yet, MAN UP and admit there was no evidence and no justification for accusing Richard and Gary Thibodeau to the point of indictment to begin with.
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city's new name
Oswego... where the corruption never ends. Where is the attorney general in all this? It’s so sad to see what this city has become.
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Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Maybe this time will be the charm. One writer stated that Oakes is just taking this case from the file and Dodd is the actual person in this case. But remember all the lies about Gary...was in MA a day after...not true. Snitches didn't get anything for testifying...not true.

Let's go back:
- Stinson arrived before 7:35am per his own words. Was there after and flagged down a deputy at 7:55 approx. Now I don't care what the story of the clock change is, it didn't affect Stinson, Swenkowski or Richard's he had to be there...but still says he did not see anything?????

- The tapped phone call and the reason the OCSD said it is unreliable is pure Bullshit. The deputies told her what to ask on the call, and the call the nite before was a mistake. Again Tonya asked for a poly and was not given one. The I believe it was Oakes that said they couldn't rely ion her testimony or version of the events. Then why bring her up here? It was all done to discredit Tonya and ploy done by lawyers even in court.
- Jenn Wescott's interrogation raised red flags but not for the OCSD. How much info would you need. And if you play that tape you hear the interrogator ask her "and when was that". She starts to answer and you can hear her say "August" and then suddenly the tape stops and you can see where it may have been editied....see for yourselves YOUTUBE: The Heidi Allen Case.

Why wasn't Bohere investigated as he did have a white van at that time. A guy borrowed it to scrap after MB had it repaired...per the person who borrowed it. WHY WHY WHY wasn't that investigated at that time?????????

We heard from neighbors at the airport that county issued vehicles were going in there at 3-4am. I was told by someone that is how the coke was coming a lot of people back then knew.
Did Moe know about this? I think so and I think he's involved in this cover up and make no mistake about it this is a cover up.

- Who was the juror that Gary said mouthed the words "he made me do it". who was that person and this would have been a hung jury.
- King stated that the witnesses to the 3 saying they did kill Heidi that it was not reliable because they all had different stories. No kidding.
It happened at different times..but nice try King.

- If all this drug activity in Oswego County and there wasn't one bust that I remember that happened back then...hmmmmm.
- Oakes recently stated that the evidence convicts GT. WHAT EVIDENCE? No one saw him there, Swenkowski watched RT drive in, held the door for him to enter the store, watched him walk out and drive away. Not seeing Gary or Heidi with him. How the hell did this get smoked by Dodd? INCREDIBLE!

- Of course the FBI didn't find anything and this didn't matter to Dodd...justice or a lynching?

This case is corrupt as corrupt can be. GT did NOT commit this crime and if Oakes is running for DA, please tell the people all the evidence that you saw to convict Gary. As being the DA we want an honest one.
- As for Dodd I think he knows that we know too much.

- AND WHY HASN'T OAKES LET GARY OUT FOR MEDICAL TREATMENT? To a hospital...well I guess he hopes along with others that Gary dies. But WE will always be there and sooner or later someone maybe on the death bed will tell all and it won't be too late to send all you corrupt rotten people to prison where we and even you families know you should be.

Rich Murtaugh quotes with articles and dates listed
Rich Murtaugh comments: on Syracuse .com.

you all going to hate me now but .... Back in day when roger & jay ( thumper ) where around jay was a great kid but his last few years free he got into that stuff you smoked / put up your nose um I think it's called bath salts .. He even burned down a trailer a yr or so before he killed Vicky turned bad an I mean real bad fast but ... Jmo though don't hate me too much .
Posted on James 'Thumper' Steen described as a violent braggart capable of kidnapping Heidi Allen
10/5/2014 8:11 PM

Is there still a cash award up & if so how much is it .. What you got to do to receive it ty
Posted on Judge in Heidi Allen case reverses decision, will allow DA to respond to wrongful conviction claim
9/19/2014 5:48 PM

As a matter of fact I do on my way to new haven now had a nice road trip to fernwood too wink emoticon
Posted on Judge to prosecutor in Heidi Allen case: You missed chance to respond to wrongful conviction claim
9/18/2014 9:42 AM

Omg please no mistake we (3 of us) picked up two vans at gt house ... Me roger & a 3rd person picked up a dift van in fern wood I can't tell you where it was but I'm sure I can drive right to there like I did last week going to Gary's house ( that I had only been to twice before in the 90's
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:25 PM

It was a red house is all we can remember
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:17 PM

I'm sorry I don't I'd just be guessing but one of my helpers just asked me if I remember going to fern wood to get a white van at 1st didn't remember but after talking a bit I do now
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:08 PM

No in fern wood ( I think that's how you spell it
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:05 PM

Omg I don't know I just remember him coming to me wanting me to pick one up for him .. Never gave it much thought till tonight talking it over with my staff
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 10:55 PM

You all ready for this one ????? I do remember going with RB to fern wood to pick up a white van that he had to junk back around same time of the ha deal
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 10:52 PM
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Regarding "Oakes"
Greg Oakes is fully aware regarding the Gary the innocent Thibodeau, case
Oakes did an internship in the Oswego County District Attorney's Office while in college.
Oakes worked on Gary's first appeal. By the way, Gary's last name is spelled: THIBODEAU, NOT
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Today's Quote August 9-10/2018

Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not.
Dr. Seuss

Which side of the bars does Sullivan belong?
Gene Sullivan current number 2 of Todd works on the outside of jail bars. But that wasn't always the case as it appears.
March of '81 would be good place to check the newspapers to learn of Mr. Sullivans past, which just so happened to be heard Judge Sullivan his father! And his mother was in state politics at the time too!



"Two 17-year-old city youths wore arrested early Friday morn- ing and charged with the burglary of the Playtime Laundromat, 610 K. Broadway, police said. One of the youths, Eugene F. Sullivan III of 212 W. Broadway, was also charged with two counts of third-degree grand lar- ceny in connection with two recent purse snatchings in the area, according to police. The other youth, Scott A. Grinncll, who listed the same address, was also charged with one count of third-degree grand lar- ceny in connection with a separate purse- snatching reported to police a short time after the alleged burglary. It is believed Sullivan is the son of Oswego County Court Judge Eugene F. Sullivan Jr., although city police would not confirm that fact. Judge Sullivan, contacted Friday, said he "heard through the grapevine" his son had been arrested, but had not bcon con- tacted by either his son or local authori- ties. He said his son has not lived at home since October. liolli youths were arraigned before City Judge Wallace Van C. Auscr and were sent to the Oswogn County Jail in lieu of nail each, police said. 1'olice were called lo the easl side laun- dry shortly after 6 a.m. Friday when a neighbor roporlod suspicious noises and observed someone inside the building, which had not opened for business yet. Tho laundromat's proprietor. Frank Casliglia of Fulton, told police lhal a door had been pushed open at the business place and thai Iwo coin machines were opened II was not immediately deter- mined how much change was missing Irom (he machines. Police said (hey saw Sullivan and (irin- nell walking along Pratt Street between South Second and South Third streets a short time later, and stopped them for questioning. The two were charged later in the morning with third-degree hurglary after lining taken to police headquarters, police said. While police were at the burglary scene, officers were called away at a.m. to investigate a purse-snatching several blocks away at the Andrew Midland Nurs- ing Home on South Fourth Street at Lee Memorial Hospital through a hall- way at the adjacent nursing home at around a.m. when a young man came from behind and grabbed her purse. She was apparently not injured and the purse, witli its contents intact, was recovered a short time later in a room at the nursing home, police said. Police later accused Grinnell of thai purse snatching. In another incident, Mary J. Schremp, 79, of Towpath Towers told police she was entering the west door of the senior citi- zens complex with another woman at around 8 p.m. Thursday when her purse was wrestled from her by a young man who then fled north along .South First Street toward (fie Canalvicw Mall. She was reportedly not injured in the incident. The purse contained in bills, some change and an envelope with in cash, she told police. Sullivan was questioned by police Thursday night about lhal purse snatch- ing, bul released without being charged, police said. He was charged in connection with the incident Friday, however, after being remterviewed by police. Police also charged Sullivan with an- other purse snatching incident thai oc- curred Jan. 14 at Holy Family School. Carolyn Castiglia, of 32 S. Seventh St., wife of the Playtime Laundromat's pro- prietor, told police a young man grabbed her purse and fled at around 7 p.m. that d.iy as she was entering the building to play bingo. The purse contained around in cash, some change, credit cards and a bank book, police said. Mrs. Castiglia was not injured in the incident. Police ('apt. Arlen ('line said Friday evening "abuut 90 per cent" of the items taken in the incidents had been recovered."



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Gene Sullivan for Oswego County Sheriff
It appears Gene Sullivan running for Oswego county Sheriff is hiding a criminal history the voters deserve to know about. His family has pulled strings and covered up his past and secured him his future. It is time for the voters to know just who they are voting for to keep their community safe! A good starting place for this information is March of '81 it highlights his robbery and purse snatching incidents that lead him to court with his father being the judge!
There are more articles out there as well.
The other candidates running are James sharkey of Minneto and Don Hilton of Hastings.
Please inform the voters of this mans past as they deserve to know of this.
Thank you
Concerned Citizen

Gene Sullivan for Oswego County Sheriff

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2nd Ward disgrace
That's just what the 2nd ward has turned into, a complete disgrace. Take a ride around. The military complex on East 9th street is such an eye sore. That is a government building and grounds connect to our Fort Ontario. Nice for out of town visitors to the fort to look at. Way to represent our military!!! And the fort is a tourist attraction. I have seen vacant properties looking better. The Councilor of this ward is a joke. Another do nothing for the East side. Oh, excuse me. We got a doggie park next to an abandoned business with over grown weeds, broken windows and go only knows what else. Driving down Mitchell street to the doggie park looks like the ghetto. Can't even keep the grass cut . Nice job there Kells. 2nd Ward has never looked this bad. Once again, the East side remains forgotten.
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Saving Gary
Saving Gary, hell with it. Cut everything loose you all have. If Greg Oakes can't save him maybe facts can, seeing as Oakes can not get his facts straight. Im in.

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Today's Quote August 7-8/2018

It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit. Harry S Truman
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It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit. Harry S Truman
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It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit.
Harry S Truman


Let's be a bit, not a lot, just a bit, fair to Oakes. He is coming in late to the Hiedi Allen debacle. The original DA was Don Dodd, who never saw a person he didn't want to jerk around, much like his mentor, the asshat, John Elliott. The real blame for this mess lies with sheriff depart members who got tunnel vision on Thiebideaus. Oakes just knows what is in the file.
A whole boat load of questions remain. This confidential informant question for example. Informant?or reason to visit the investigator. Lots of questions, no flattering answers. Did the use chemical tests for blood residue in the garage. Lots of procedures overlooked. It might have been of some value to call in real investigators, as opposed to Todd's politically promoted buddies.
                                                                                                                             August 7-8/18

Trump's New Obamacare Sabotage Could Really Stick It To Consumers

                                                                                                                             August 7-8/18

Nelson signs
Seaver has them up too. Wouldn’t vote her in for dog catcher - maybe rubbish removal would be appropriate.
What are the rules?
Many of my friends and I are trying to figure out what exactly the code enforcement department is responsible for. We see houses all over the city with bags of garbage, soda & beer cans, furniture, junk cars in front yards, camping trailers and boats blocking sidewalks, porches falling down, trees branches blocking sidewalks and roads, etc etc…When a friend of mine called the office he was told a complaint would be checked out. Camper is still blocking the sidewalk in his neighborhood.

Maybe it would be a good idea for the city to list some of the rules we all need to follow. I see many of the complaints are for high grass and garbage needing removing. Usually the same owners are listed constantly for either their homes or rental property. How about fining them if this continues monthly or weekly. It seems these same people are the ones that also never shovel the snow off the sidewalks in the neighborhoods.

Stand up and take pride in your neighborhoods.
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Campaign Signs
Last I knew there was no official time period fro putting up or taking down these signs.
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James E McDonald obit...Jailhouse Snitch RE: Gary the Innocent Thibodeau
Here's one of Oakes jailhouse snitches: James E. McDonald of Winthrop passed away at the Eatpointe Nursing and Rehabilitation Center in Chelsea of July 8, 2015 after a prolonged illness. He was 52 years old. Born in Winthrop he was the beloved son of Catherine (McMann) and Joseph McDonald. A lifelong resident of Winthrop, he was a graduate of Winthrop High School. He was employed for many years as a painter and was a member of the Winthrop Lodge of Elks.

He was the loving father of Mary McDonald of Nashua, New Hampshire, Catherine McDonald and Jamie McDonald both of Manchester, New Hampshire. He was the beloved brother of John McDonald, of Winthrop, Robert McDonald of Connecticut, Thomas McDonald of Nashua, New Hampshire and Joseph McDonald of Winthrop.

Family and friends are cordially invited to attend the visitation from the funeral home on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 from 4:00 to 7:00 PM. A funeral service will be held in the funeral home at 7:00 PM the same evening.
Charitable donations may be made to:

The Jimmy Fund, Dana-Farber Cancer Institute
10 Brookline Place, W 6th floor, Brookline MA 02445
Tel: 1-800-525-4669
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Jamie Sharkey
a real Peoples person
No puppet Strings attached
Will fork for the PEOPLE
Time for a Change
No Criminal Record !
                                                                                                                             August 7-8/18


Allison Stanard Nelson
The Republican endorsed candidate, Mrs. Nelson, will be unable to hear the majority of cases in Oswego County, because she has been the DSS attorney for her entire career. This creates a conflict of interest for 100% of the neglect/abuse/JD/PINS cases and a significant percentage of custody/visitation cases. There are numerous judicial ethics opinions to support this, including this Judicial Ethics Opinion from April, 2018 ("A judge must disqualify him/herself from any matter in which he/she had any involvement as a lawyer. This disqualification is not subject to remittal and does not expire" - find the full decision at

I have never said she cannot be a judge, but the ethics rulings are clear - she has a significant conflict which will make her a lame duck in Oswego County, likely to be sent to another County to serve her 10 year term.

The Republican Committee, by their endorsement, is asking Oswego County voters to select the next family court judge for Onondaga County.
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Today's Quote August 6/2018

Pride makes us artificial and humility makes us real.
Thomas Merton

Round of applause for Matt Mulcahy
Damn glad to see a reporter digging to expose the BS twisted story Dodd presented and the BS twisted story Oakes continues to spew.
Oakes said himself that Richards van was washed ‘days after’ the FBI forensic testing…which showed what? No evidence of Heidi ever being in Richards van.
So tell us again How could there be no evidence of a struggle for life and death that did not reveal ANY evidence of Heidi in that van? On that note, Oswego County Sheriff’s- WHY HAVE YOU NOT CHECKED THE GARAGE ON RICE ROAD? You expect not to find any evidence because a struggle with Heidi didn’t happen there. Right? You searched the woods right across the street and didn’t expect to find anything. But you did, didn’t you? Curious…an excavator was brought to the site AFTER the ME concluded their dig. Why would they do that? Takes a little bit of higher level brain functioning to figure this case out. I’d suggest getting help from smarter people than yourselves. And who was the dope officer that said in the news in 1994 that they didn’t expect to find any evidence of Heidi on Gary’s property when it was searched. Oh, that’s right, one search was done before Gary went to MA to jail and the other was done after the inmates gave their statement? HHmmm. What did the searches reveal both times? Oh, that’s right…extensive searching yielded……..NOTHING to link Heidi.

Please do tell us again how the inmates were determined to be credible? Their testimony was uncorroborated. Not a *cking thing they said that wasn’t already public was verifiable, aka there was no ‘confession’ which was evidenced per their ENTIRE testimony.

What a bunch of dopes!! The BS isn’t even holding water anymore. Darn it, the public can get the true facts. Oakes, please stop telling us what you ‘think’ about this case and stick to the ‘real’ facts as they are written in black and white.
Slow clap for the half ass apology given to the reporter for “the confusion”. Apology not accepted. You would not have apologized but for the reporter slapping (metaphorically) the true facts in your face. What more is this reporter going to expose of your ‘confusing’ statements? Still believe this guy?
Maybe, maybe, maybe, if, if, if…that’s all LE had and continues to have to blame the Thibodeau’s for something they didn’t do.
You do that, Oakes. Evaluate if/when the Court of Appeals approves a new trial if YOU want to stand in front of “We, the people” with the same cockamamie story as Dodd presented in 1995. Keeping in mind MANY facts not presented during trial have been exposed. They are on the record. Remember the Hearing?
THANK YOU, EDITOR, for continuing to post and expose the corrupt Oswego County law enforcement/government. In this case and other instances. THANK YOU to all those who have had the courage and integrity to speak out against corruption. If it takes non-anonymous people coming forward to help, I’m in.





In Response to: "Animal Cruelty", posted 8/4/18
To Animal Lover (posted 8/4/18): I spoke with the Oswego SPCA and they advise you to call the police ASAP. They took it quite seriously. With this person's hoarding situation, this situation may be even more horrific than you know. I'm reminded of Erin Maxwell's stepmother, who was also a hoarder and animal abuser. PLEASE CALL THE AUTHORITIES!!!
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re: Animal Cruelty
The woman sounds like an animal hoarder among other things. She also sounds sadistic, the missing toes/feet are NOT accidents.Perhaps she inserts the furry little love tunnelers up her ass via a 4" PVC pipe, this would explain the need for "declawing", alcoholism/heroin addiction would explain the botched "procedures". Does she remove the teeth as well? Hell, if you're only gonna shove each one up your ass one time who cares how good the "nail trimming" went? When she brought the animals to work did you detect a fecal/Vaseline aroma? You stated that this woman is a nurse? I bet she works in a nursing home? Any human victims missing any body parts or jewelry that you know of? Is she frequently irritable, have a runny nose and complain about being sick all the time? Is she the kind that you just want to kick the shit out of until she loses a few body parts of her own? Does she have access to narcotics at her current place of employment? Has she been board sanctioned either while working here or at a previous location? Search!
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Well I think if I was Oakes I would learn to shut up.
We know the case. These are the facts they can not deny. But he can lie about it, and try to get out of the reality and history of Gary's case. Number one in 94 the Sheriff's said they met with everyone who had been at the store that morning and added to it by saying the last customer was more than cooperative and wanting to help. They are also aware Richard Thibodeau stated he transported a dog that was hit by a car. In doing so after Heidi vanished attempted to get the dog to the vet. DNA testing on the carpet confirms canine blood. His story was confirmed in which case he is the one who willingly gave his carpet to the Sheriff's, to confirm it. Since arrests the Sheriff's have had Richards van in custody. Not to mention it was searched on day one. Two it was searched upon interrogations, three searched by FBI three searches that registers absolutely nothing. Oakes made a comment. "It would be arrogant to not issue a new trial." Isn't it the other way around. It would be ignorant not to.
                                                                                                                             August 5/18

So many don't know where to begin........Mayor Sleezebag Barlow.....banging S.P. who is a recent graduate of GR Bodley in Fulton and works at Little Ceasars she is 18 are no better than the slimeball Gosek who couldn't and still can't keep his dick in his pants....still drives around on the phone like the good ole days...lord only knows how many other young girls this douchebag of a mayor is sleeping with.
Pimple popper's museum closed for renovations: perhaps installations of more cameras of the little boys that go there????? Your a disgusting pig.
Mo Todd: a writer recently wrote this site wondering where Mo Todd is hiding?????? Try ANY casino in upstate NY....caught him a week ago hiding in a corner playing slots at Del Lago...wasn't sure it was him cause he had his hand up to hide his face so I walked around and gave him a Hi MO and kept going. My sister went to Turning Stone the following day and guess who was there???? I would definitely do some digging into where Oswego County Taxpayers monies are going......and by the way, you have quilt written all over your face about Gary Thibadeau.....I hope they hang every last one of you. And if any of you Oswegonians vote for Sullivan you are really only re-electing Todd.
4th ward alderman: where the f$%k you hiding???? All I heard from you when you wanted a vote was I will be WAY MORE visible to my constituents than my are nothing but another puppet on a string...but dont worry cause S,W.. will be back soon.
To my next door neighbor: the next time your fu$%ed up husband wants to hang himself tell him to stay out of my garage. He won't have to worry about hanging himself.
School will be starting soon now remember its all about the kids!!!!
I would give anything to see what this city has spent on new vehicles in the last few years???? Is there really that much money laying around???? All they do is drive around all day doing nothing....Gonna get some pics of the brigade coming from the dirt road that leads up to the resevoir.....that's their favorite hangout....
Hammie Homes: I live on a street that makes this dump visible to me...on an "average" day there are about 5 or more calls to this shithole. I always thought that if a rental unit continues to require police presence it will be deemed unrentable. They come screaming with their sirens until they are about two blocks away then they shut off their sirens and do their thing which is: if we dont see nothing we can do. Housing Visions you can't select a better quality of tenants??? Just in it for the money.
Code Enforcement: WTF do you do??????? Who is in charge??? Everyweek they all have a different title.
This city sucks!


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Today's Quote August 4/2018

It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop.




Animal cruelty

If anyone out there can help me I would be forever in your debt. I work with a so called nurse who raises guinea pigs. At one point she had over 150. I emailed animal control as she told staff that she had to get rid of some so she put them in bags and had her boyfriend run over them in his pickup truck. I never received a response from animal control. I contacted SPCA and everyone I could think of and no one will help. Now she brought a couple into work to give away and staff noticed that they were mussing toes. She stated she cuts their toes off with a knife and sometimes slips and has cut feet off. Won't someone help these poor things? She is a hoarder and animal mutilator. Its heartbreaking to think of so many suffering at her hands. Someone help me please put an end to this cruelty. Any advice is welcome.

Animal Lover

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Thank God...the first report EVER where the media calls out Oakes

                                                                                                                             August 4/18



More Oakes B.S.

Oakes lies again in his clarification to the media to cover up his other lie...


"Days after the van was searched, FBI agents observed Richard power-wash the inside of the van at a carwash. I should have been more precise when we spoke; I apologize for the confusion. - Gregory Oakes"


It's well-known that Richard's van has been in possession of the OCSD since they took it for examination. He hasn't gotten it back since, so how could he have power washed it?

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Allison Nelson

For someone who wants a job upholding the law, why is she violating Oswego's zoning law? She put signs up weeks ago, way before the city allows it. No other candidate has done so.

Maybe it's time the Barclay/Stanard/Sullivan regime get out of politics. They've controlled the county for too long.

                                                                                                                             August 4/18



Oswego Dog Park

Well, here is another "Billy Brain Fart" that has cost the taxpayer's $35,000 to build and another $12,000 to maintain in equipment, gas and labor. When he came up with the "Billy Brain Fart" or "Barlow Brain Fart" it was a novel idea that was destined to fall flat on its face from the beginning!


It is built at the far eastern end of the city which requires one to drive to. The road in, is nothing more than road scarfing as is the parking lot, and is just as bumpy as all the other roads in the city.  I have gone out there, once a week for the past five weeks, just to verify what I thought would happen, happened. The first two weeks of it's opening did have some fair use, but has since worn off. My last five visits, I observed 3 people out there, one with an actual dog and two city workers. This park is pathetic; mostly because of where it is located.

So, Mr."Billy Brain Fart Barlow" thanks for wasting almost $50,000 of my taxes on this useless park!  95% of the people who own dogs in Oswego walk their dogs in the city as it is more convents and they don't have to drive over the shitty city streets, to drive into a shitty road to the shitty dog park, and park in a shitty parking area so their dogs can go into a 50 by 100 foot fenced in area to do their shitty business. As also expected, you are a kid joke mayor that  couldn't think your way out of a wet papper bag without that bunch of scum bags you have in your administration and sitting on you appointed boards. Really sad!.

                                                                                                                             August 4/18



High Sheriff

No, voting for a high Sheriff and what we have now is no different.

                                                                                                                             August 4/18



AWKWARD! Watch Sean Hannity Keep Getting Corrected By Shep Smith In New Supercut

                                                                                                                            August 4/18




Barlow lies Like Trump

Just read the accounting for the 2019 budget according to Barlow and Corradino and I am amazed they think they can lie like Trump and how bad the Barlow Administration has screwed the residents of this city. The bullshit that Barlow is trying to spread in this article is nothing but lies and his inexperience of managing the city shows. The corruption he has allowed to slither in to our city, is disgusting. He is way over his head and is being run by a corrupt group of people.

The sale of the water tunnel brought revenue to the city totaling over $60,000,000 over the past 15 years. Because this administration and past ones squandered this money away foolishly instead of setting up a dedicated fund for future increases, is why there was a million dollar deficit last year. 

Barlow brags about eliminating the Planning and Zoning Departments but failed to mention the he increased the Code Department. Fact: in 2016 the Planning and Zoning Dept cost $154,000 and was eliminated in 2017 the Code Dept was increased from $133,000 to $292,000 an increase of $158,000. No savings, just a $4,000 increase and appointments of unqualified and unethical people like Bell.

Here are some more things you might want to ask this lying Mayor about:


2016 Marina and Rinks  annual expense $296,000

2018 Marina and Rinks  annual expense  $ 547,900....increase $251,000

Kells hires girlfriend as Marina Supervisor with new truck, an increase in labor, and Barlow directs Kells to hire Shane Broadwell's wife at Marina who is totally unqualified, so Broadwell can get health insurance on the taxpayers dollar.


2016 Control of Dogs $274,000

2019 Control of Dogs  $443,000 ...increase $169,000


2016 Street Cleaning $575,000.

2019 Street Cleaning $983,000..increase $408,000


2016 Water $2,775,000

2018 Water  $3,267,000 ...increase $492,000... here is the next water bill increase for 2019


2016 to 2018 Fire Dept expenses up $150,000


2016 Street Lighting $735,000

2018 Street Lighting $810,000 increase $75.000 must be Barlow and the council read the Art of the Deal by Trump...


2016 Parks $200,000

2018 Parks  $325,000  increase $125,000


2016 Pool  $58.400

2018 Pool 107,000 increase  $48.600 and couldn't get pool open for over a months because of mismanagement.


2016 Fund Balance  $31,800,000

2018 Fund Balance   $32,956,000 increase  $1,156,000... wait until you see 2019

Fact :

Property Tax increase for average house...increased by over $100  from 2016 to 2018


This should give you a feel for this "tax and spend" Barlow administration and the corruption that is gong on right under you nose. Increased labor by hiring their friends, Broadwell's wife, kells girl, Bell, Carracoili, N Emmons, not counting the pilfering that is occurring through out the city. This doesn't include the corrupt city boards and the bad decisions that come from them.

Some people will read this and think it is Bullshit, but it is fact, and you have been being ripped off by these scum for the past three years. Billy Barlow was the youngest person elected as mayor in Oswego, only problem he is the dumbest and most easiest led mayor ever elected in Oswego. You better wake up before 2020!!!

You might also want to look at the corruption form the grants that were issued through Justin and who got them. Broadwell for a water slide and Tony Baloney for the crappy property he owns....really.

                                                                                                                            August 4/18








Today's Quote August 3/2018

I hate housework! You make the beds,

you do the dishes and six months later you have to start all over again.

Joan Rivers

Keep talking Greg
Keep rattling the lies off Greg. The news has full blown access to all the 94 documentation. The lying game and fact checking your bull shit started tonight. Many are helping. This has just begun. Stay tuned folks. The media is on fire and all the lies will be exposed.
                                                                                                                            August 3/18


Detainee Attempts Suicide After Trump Administration Jams Migrants Into Troubled Prison

                                                                                                                            August 3/18

Portable Docks?
Hey Ed, Maybe you can tell us what happened to all of those floating docks that used to litter the riverbank. Didn't Broadwell have something to do with their creation in the first place? At what cost to the taxpayers? Wasn't he collecting the rental fees on them? Did the city sell them in some sort of bundle package along with our million dollar cannons and other architectural antiques? Broadwell does not own the riverfront.His legal rights to it are severely limited by law but of course the law is useless when it's not enforced. Case in point the A hole that thinks he owns Sunset Beach..does not. I urge all to head to Sunset Beach this weekend to spoil "his" lake view..that he does not own. When he calls the OPD you should call the State Police (or the Sheriff's depending on whose on duty) Trust me, I was a witness to the police telling him "too bad" you don't own the lake front.

                                                                                                                            August 3/18

High Sheriff
I've been giving thought to running for Oswego County Sheriff, I hold a degree in Public Justice with a minor in psychology I'm 62 retired and a vet, however I smoke weed, but then I thought so what back in days of Robinhood in the forest around Nottingham, they had a HIGH Sheriff and he answered only to the king. I think I could get elected, because when the choice is so poor, you just want to vote for someone else, that's me someone else. I believe the department has run itself for over 10 years so what could I mess up, and if I did I won't hide it, I'd fess right up, not like anyone could do shit anyway, but I'd share, imagine citizens review boards were we answer to the public we serve, no hidden shit!, see ya wanna vote already.
                                                                                                                            August 3/18







Today's Quote August 2/2018

The English language has 112 words for deception, according to one count, each with a different shade of meaning: collusion, fakery, malingering, self-deception, confabulation, prevarication, exaggeration, denial.
Robin Marantz Henig

This web site still is “a place for discussions and to lay information” . Three years ago I recognized that political propaganda was being discriminated throughout the internet and I put a stop to those who were trying to use this site to further spread these half truths, lies and manufactured facts to further their agendas.

That dumb ass ignorant son of a bitch that some people call president is using the same tactics employed by Adolph Hitler and the Nazi Party to divide this country and increase his own personal wealth and power. It should be no surprise that rebellion against this demagogue would spread to this site.

I will not allow these Trumplodytes to proselytize their cause on this site. Posting here is a privilege not a right.



Facebook Identifies an Active Political Influence Campaign Using Fake Accounts

                                                                                                                            August 2/18


How do they sleep
They sleep great!! Their ignorance helps them cope easier, people without morals. I know the good Lord said, "We are not to judge. That we are to forgive in order to be forgiven. They don't walk with morals and they sure as hell don't walk with God. Donald Dodd once said, "That's what you get for Kidnapping Heidi Allen." Well only question to Dodd would be, what is it you get for Kidnapping Gary Thibodeau? Life in prison?
                                                                                                                            August 2/18

RE: water bill
Either one of two choices with the water rate going up. Either the DPW commissioner needs a new truck. Second choice it the DPW commissioner's new woman foreman needs a new truck and a raise. There could be a third choice might be the mayor needs a new food truck.
Pick one. How much higher can the water/sewer rates go before it puts a lot of homeowners out on the street.
                                                                                                                            August 2/18

RE: water bill
Either one of two choices with the water rate going up. Either the DPW commissioner needs a new truck. Second choice it the DPW commissioner's new woman foreman needs a new truck and a raise. There could be a third choice might be the mayor needs a new food truck.

Pick one. How much higher can the water/sewer rates go before it puts a lot of homeowners out on the street.
                                                                                                                            August 2/18








Today's Quote August 1/2018

The more we elaborate our means of communication, the less we communicate.
J. B. Priestley

Sullivan for Sheriff Oakes for DA
Not sure on Sullivan. Is he another liar like Todd, is he blind and ignorant and not going to do what's right because he's been around Todd and obviously Dodd, is he a Mary Rain? I think a vote for Sullivan is a vote for Todd. Seeing as Todd endorsed Sullivan. Well if Sullivan wins you may not see change as he's obviously bumping elbows with Joakes so if you want to keep the corruption. Well these are your votes over the next few years. If you want change pick someone with some balls to clean them all out, including any officers or officials who knew and did nothing. Including Joakes. Say it how it is people. Maybe they'll pay attention, but I likely doubt it. Truth is many think Sullivan is another Todd. Many want an honest department with good officers. Someone who steps up and does the right thing for anyone wronged in OZ.
                                                                                                                            August 1/18

For the Bulletin Board
I’ve been daily reader and occasional submitter of your webpage for a few years now and I have to say that i always loved how honest and revealing the page was, if something was wrong it was wrong ... it didn’t matter who’s name was involved or what company it was alway put out there for everyone to see ... that being said it’s changed I’ve noticed over the last year that if it doesn’t follow certain people’s perspectives or beliefs then it’s wrong... if something is submitted and it even makes its way to the board then the entire submission is bashed to the point that’s it’s receptively sickening to read ... I haven’t submitted any thing in quite some time so please don’t think that I am referring to one of my own posts! This page always seemed to be a place for discussions and to lay information out no matter what it entailed or subject it involved and now it’s slowly turning into only certain subjects and if it has any other view point of the “moderator” it’s deemed wrong immediately... I’m not saying that his view point is wrong but it’s just gets very tiresome to read constant name calling and one sided discussions
                                                                                                                            August 1/18

Wheeler was it you?
I have to ask this logical question. Who was it that ever said the kidnapper was a paying customer. So we simply say from what we can prove on records you were the last person there so it must be you. Who ever said the person who took Heidi Allen ever made a purchase that day at all? It does not seem very logical for any kidnapper to make any quick purchase prior to kidnapping a human being. "Before I kidnap you, let me get two packs of smokes" Really sounds like a logical suggestion to me. Sarcastic!! We just assume, because it is what we were told to believe. Who ever witnessed Richard being a paying customer and then immediate taking Heidi? No one , not one soul ever testified to witnessed this happening and nor was Baldasaro there. There is no eye witness, not one to support the paying customer/lets be a kidnapper theory. Its all just utter bullshit..the public bought it all then, now, the public has access to all the information we normally dont see. This time we call BULLSHIT!!!
                                                                                                                            August 1/18

water bill
I hear the Water Bill going up to 400.00 every 3 months in Jan 2019. Anyone know anything about this
                                                                                                                            August 1/18

It finally happened
Somebody finally died during Harbor mess. Drowned in the river.....autopsy pending
                                                                                                                            August 1/18

Advertisement for well to do cultured folks to get the hell out
Do not buy property
Do not tell your friends to move here
The local mob make sure every year to disenchant people from coming to oz
If they came moved here mushroomed into more
Occupancy by culture , the status quo would be threatened and their death grip on Oswego would be taxed
                                                                                                                            August 1/18









Today's Quote July 31/2018

The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side,

but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.
George Orwell

Police drag racing
I was crossing Utica Street bridge shortly before 11PM on my way to work. While stopped at West First and Utica for the light, I saw an OPD SUV stopped on Utica heading east. He gunned it and started to run the light, then stopped and backed up. When the light changed, the OPD car and a pickup both floored it and raced, and I mean raced, over the bridge, tires squealing and speeding. Once at East first and Utica, the truck went straight and the cop turned right.
What the hell was that all about?. If you want to play with your little friends, don't do it where you are a danger to other vehicles and pedestrians. Officer Idiot needs his hand slapped.
                                                                                                                            July 31/18

Boatless Harborfest
A lot of the reason for the lack of boaters was the constant harassment from every arm of the military and law enforcement agencies that clogged the river. Back in the day I talked to several boaters describing how they were pulled over more than once by different agencies in the small stretch from the lighthouse to the bridge. I witnessed one boater get off his boat to secure it to the wall and got an open container ticket. This wasn’t any rowboat but a six figure ship. As he said to me, “who needs this sh!t.” Oswego under former Mayors Batmen and Gillian didn’t have a clue or care, and the former Police Chief McPherson harassment of the people with money while the kiddies ran amuck with their skateboards set the death knell for the fest. The only positive view is that traffic isn’t is bad and the crowds are much more manageable. Still the fest is a nice diversion and offers a lot of nice entertainment. I believe that people who use to travel to Oswego that have money won’t be coming around anytime soon. The fest is now a local festival. People maybe a half to a hour away may take a gamble and come on down, however that seems to be fading in the sunset. – Captain Bly
                                                                                                                            July 31/18

Will their actions and all involved come back to haunt them…
Who are the morons that thought this one up? (Grave desecration)
The “Harborfest Medallion” was hidden out at Lowes on the gravesite located next to the parking lot. A video shows “Team Chetney” climbing on the wall and pulling up stones on the wall surrounding the graves there.
                                                                                                                            July 31/18

Gary Tibbedeau
Why can’t Oakes, Dodd and Todd let this poor man die in peace. This smelled of a cover up from the start. You can bury Gary, but sooner of later the truth will come out. How do you live with your conscience?
                                                                                                                            July 31/18

$25,000.00 to “study” the increase in the homeless population of Oswego?! I’ll tell ya for FREE!

It’s because dipshits using our tax money for stupid crap like this cause a never ending cycle of tax increases for MORE stupid crap like this!

I’ll probably be forced to join the homeless on the “list” before long!

Oswego (and anywhere else) Luver
                                                                                                                            July 31/18







Today's Quote July 30/2018

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
Albert Einstein

Sad to see this
Harbor flop. What happened? Decided to drive into oswego sat. Am. Could not believe how dead it was. Hardly any boats in the river. Streets were empty. What's going on? Sad to see this.
                                                                                                                            July 30/18

The fact that Barlow concessions or whatever they call it is for sale should have given us all a big clue about the future of Harborfest. LOL

The rats are jumping ship.
                                                                                                                            July 30/18





Today's Quote July 29/2018

The final forming of a person's character lies in their own hands.
Anne Frank

Listen Up
If she's too intoxicated to drive, she's too intoxicated to give consent.

When she tells her friend what happened the next morning, and that friend tells another, who happens to be my daughter, then pretty soon everyone is talking and that is a bad thing.
                                                                                                                            July 29/18

Unidentified man found in Oswego River

                                                                                                                            July 29/18

Record Crowd at Harborfest
I was in Breitbeck Park last night around 9:00 pm and was quite underwhelmed to see the size of the crowd that had gathered there to pay $10 for an aluminum mug celebrating another venue in another State in another year. On the plus side purchasing the mug gave you all the watered down Kool-Aid refills you could tolerate drinking. What happened to the multiple venues? Fort Ontario? Where are all of the artisans, artists, musicians, craftsmen? Oh that's right they don't come here anymore because the vendor fees gouged them out of town. Don't fear because we have all of our local politician's friends, family, and cronies out there taking their place selling fried dough and sno-cones..this time gouging you directly! You have to love that personal home-town touch. They increase their personal wealth by cutting out the middle-man and passing on the the price increases directly to you! Back to the crowd size, I did a head count in Breitbeck Park at 9:30... 278 people! Huh? That's right, under 300 people! Tonight's fireworks display will bring the biggest crowd of the week who will be in town ONLY to see the 'Free' fireworks.They will pack a lunch and already be drunk when they get here in order to save money for the State Fair.Good time for the Sheriff's dept to set up a DWI checkpoint on 481.Oh wait, they won't do that.They can't mess with the man's profit margin by discouraging future DWI Harborfesters. Public Safety is Trumped (get it?) Question: how can the City even afford to pay for the fireworks and HOW are they paying for the fireworks this year?? Taxpayers? 100% sponsored? Slush Fund? Last year's Hardly Fest profits? Sale of OUR Confederate cannons and architectural antiques?(this will be a big future legal issue) Trust me.
Moving the fireworks display to benefit Broadwell's motel guests view wasn't the best idea for the other 90% of the city. Over half the city residents no longer have any view of the fireworks at all, not without hauling down to Breitbeck Park to join the suckers waiting to be fleeced. The fireworks have become a perk for the criminals who run this Mini-Trumpland.
                                                                                                                            July 29/18

Saturday, downtown, Oswego, Harborfest – 2018

                                                                                                                            July 29/18





Take A Dump With Trump





Today's Quote July 28/2018

Hang 'em first, try 'em later.
Roy Bean

city hall fence
It’s been a VERY long time and still no answers; where is the city hall fence? Who authorized it’s removal? Has it been sold, if so to who and where is the resolution authorizing the sale? Where is the money from the sale? If the fence is at the DPW for repair when will it be returned? The city knows people have short memories and they can continue to lie, cheat and steal from the taxpayers. I’d love to see this whole gang go to jail. They are destroying the city and the bread & circuses such as HarborMess can’t last forever. Has the city ever made a profit on this or at least broke even? When will questions get an honset answer?
                                                                                                                            July 28/18

New York acts to boot Spectrum cable out of the state

                                                                                                                            July 28/18






Today's Quote July 26/2018

For years my wedding ring has done its job.

It has led me not into temptation.

It has reminded my husband numerous times at parties that it's time to go home.

It has been a source of relief to a dinner companion.

It has been a status symbol in the maternity ward.

Erma Bombeck



Fort Pool  ……July Openeing …….The Real Story

Kells and Barlow put all the experienced DPW men on the second shift so they could get their new hires (drug dealers) on the streets during daylight hours. The newbies were then given the job of getting the pool up and running. In record time these dopers screwed up the equipment. Rather than admit their colossal mistake Kells and Barlow hired a company from Syracuse to come in and fix everything and get the pool open. Thousands of dollars of repairs were hidden and the cost passed on to the taxpayers.

                                                                                                                            July 26/18



Corrupt Code Department

Great  administration Barlow has.....Corrupt Code Depart and a city attorney who is clueless. Great that Jim Bell doesn't need building permits to do about $80,000 worth of work to rehab the house next door.  No wonder his buddy Tony Baloney doesn't need building permit for the work done on the brick wall repair last April, and how the code department turns their heads when they are ripping out the lead and asbestos from the old Y.

                                                                                                                            July 26/18




I heard that David Pecker is the half Brother of Anthony Weiner, I was wondering if anyone has confirmation of this? I wouldn't be surprised if Trump was somewhere in the family tree with Pecker & Weiner also!

                                                                                                                            July 26/18



Trump's Blaming!

He is at it again folks, first it was Hillary was a "Crook," The FBI was Corrupt, The Democrats were responsible for Separating Children from their Parents at the border and now it's the Russians are going to hack the mid-term elections in favor of the Democrats because HE HAS BEEN SO TOUGH ON RUSSIA! It seems as though he is already making excuses for the blood bath that the Republicans will take in the mid-terms in November. Of course we all know that only one thing that can stop that, and it's not the Russians helping the Democrats. I am sure that Putin likes the puppet on his hand that he is now using. Is this Republican Congress EVER going to wake up and realize that this on going nightmare is for REAL? All this man cares about is HIMSELF and his business in Russia and other foreign interest. Should have NEVER been allowed to even run for President. He has divided this Country like it has never been divided before and Putin and his boys are grinning from ear to ear! It's time to impeach and end this nightmare once and for all. Be an AMERICAN FIRST fellow REPUBLICANS and a Political Party Loyalist Second! It may be getting later than we think! Don't forget he has a "War Hawk" that he hired to coach him. Were all in serious trouble and it just keeps getting deeper and deeper!

                                                                                                                            July 26/18



Court: Emoluments Clause Applies To Trump And His Hotel Profits

                                                                                                                           July 26/18









Today's Quote July 25/2018




Trump Derangement Syndrome
Is the Trump Derangement Syndrome anything like the Hilary Derangement Syndrome? Would a diagnosis of Hilary Derangement Syndrome be brought on by such brilliant observations as “We dodged a bullet when that evil screw b!tch lost” I bet you can’t even say her name three times in a row without having a dead short to ground; and you talk about anger. It amazing how just plain stupid the remaining Trump supporters are to complete ignore everything that has been proven lies by his own mouth. Yes, Trump is in fact our president; I’m sure you accepted that same fact when that Obama was president. You might want to relax also because the Hilary Derangement Syndrome seems to have additional complications that lead to pompous displays of ignorance and intolerance. So just try to relax, smoke a carton of cigarette, drink a 30 pack of Milwaukie Ice, and take up some redneck games like seed spitting, mud pit belly flop, or toilet seat throwing. – M. Kohen
                                                                                                                           July 25/18

re: Anti-Trump bs
I doubt if you can comprehend this? Trumps money laundering for Russia , through real-estate and other Trump enterprises and brand. Here's another shady fact being investigated, "Deutsche Bank loaned Mr. Trump over $1 billion for his real-estate projects while Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy's son led a real-estate division there. Justin Kennedy was the global head of the real-estate capital markets division of Deutsche Bank, which loaned $1 billion to Trump when other banks wouldn't. Anthony Kennedy's retirement next month will give Trump an opportunity to shift the balance of the Supreme Court to the right."

How many times has Donald Trump filed for business bankruptcy?

Fact: 6 Trump Corporate Bankruptcies

Court Records:

1991: Trump Taj Mahal

1992: Trump Castle Hotel & Casino

1992: Trump Plaza Casino

1992: Trump Plaza Casino

2004: Trump Hotels & Casino

2009: Trump Entertainment Resorts

There is so much more about Comrade Trump that could be written...

President Donald Trump, aka, “Cadet Bone Spurs”, now referred to *Comrade Bone Spurs* In 1968, Donlad Trump was a 22-year-old University of Pennsylvania graduate, was in excellent health physically, who played football, tennis, and golf. His age and clean medical history qualified Trump as a perfect candidate for the draft to serve in the United States Army and fight in the Vietnam War.

But President Donald Trump avoided combat after receiving a J-Y medical deferment!!! For "BONE SPURS IN HIS HEALS!!!" More than half a million American men were stationed in Vietnam by the end of that year, which was the bloodiest 12 months of the war. On the day of “President Comrade Bone Spurs” graduation from the University of Pennsylvania , 40 Americans died in Vietnam 40 Americans died in Vietnam . Trump is unfit to be president Trump and his supporters are an insult to all American Veterans living and dead!

Oh by the way - I voted for Bernie Sanders in the last election.
                                                                                                                           July 25/18

A Message for All Evangelicals: Matthew 21:12
We know that you hunger for Armageddon, that you desire to see the world punished for it's sins while at the same time vindicating your religions' blasphemous claims that you know God's mind and the time of the second coming. You do not. Mark 13-32. You will not hasten Armageddon in fact you will be punished for your efforts to do so. Revelations 22:18-19. You do not have an inside track to God's intentions. LOL You serve Satan in your attempts to promote an evil anti-Christian political agenda.Romans 13-1. You push the world closer to the brink just to help make your false prophecies seem true. Your own Vanity, Pride and Self Righteousness are the tools Satan uses against you. God's graces are nowhere to be seen.

I think I know who the idiotic Fox and Fiends supporter who frequently attempts to hone his gaslighting skills at this site is. Hint: elderly, red-faced, white haired, bloated liver loudmouth pal of Mr Avery.Had a funeral for his German Shepherd..sound familiar? I hear the identical BS every time he comes in the bar and I have to serve him.
                                                                                                                           July 25/18

Sullivan for Sheriff

We can expect more negative posts regarding Undersheriff Sullivan. It is the understanding of many, that he is a vindictive, mean spirited spoiled brat. His extremely rapid rise in the department is resented by many, and is mainly credited to his political connections, and Moe Todd following orders from above. By the way.....just where is Todd? His wife and son are the only conduit to him. He is trotted out periodically at the department to give the illusion of being actively involved. Back to Sullivan...... If his now sealed record of criminal activity were to be opened, he would be ineligible to vote, or own ANY type of weapon, let alone be a cop. Think about it. More to come!
                                                                                                                           July 25/18

So red ink reminds you of your homework papers!
I used to have a problem with the red ink too, however after taking my head out of my ass, I realized that I had no idea what party Mr. red ink was favoring, in fact I think he's like me, don't put your bullshit labels on me, when choices for our President are what they have been we are quite simply screwed. When Mr. red ink makes a comment I feel as owner of this platform he also may wish to submit, you did pick the wrong site asswipe, here both sides are heard, if you have something good to share, submit it, now go find something good about how shit has been going in our Government. Good luck, red ink rules fairly here
                                                                                                                           July 25/18

Trump addressing VFW in Kansas City
Turned on CNN and saw Asshole Trump addressing the VFW. I wanted to puke, so I changed the channel and found it more satisfying to watch a commercial of Billy Fucciullo! Trump has the balls to address the VFW when he bought a 4-F classification from a shyster doctor so he wouldn't get drafted and end up in the Nam like the rest of us "Honorable" United States Citizens. Bone spurs In poor little cowardly Donny Trumps foot bullshit...poor little Donny. Hell, he was right, he has always been so disliked, someone would have fragged his fat ass over there, that is if the coward would have gone. Now he is rattling his saber with Iraq, willing to kill more honorable US Military men, yet he is still hiding behind mommy's apron strings, or should I say Ivanka's apron strings. You know, his daughter, the one he wanted to date!
                                                                                                                           July 25/18

Putin and the KGB's Name for Trump
"A Useful Idiot" Seems they have him tagged!
                                                                                                                           July 25/18

RE: Anti-Trump Bullshit
This guy must be one of those BLIND followers of the orange face called Trump. If not blind then must be one of those Trump Puppets that Trump pulls the strings and they jump and do the bidding of the Trump machine. Trump is so full of himself is sad. There is no place a normal person can go unless you are for Trump. The way I see it is there is no left nor right in this country. Last time I knew we are all Americans every last one.

Red Ink man keep up the good work
                                                                                                                           July 25/18








Today's Quote July 24/2018

Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative.
Oscar Wilde

Anti-Trump Bullshit
It's wonderful to have a very clever group of logical, respectful, open-minded thinkers, participating in a discussion. But that's clearly not the case here. Not even close. It's obvious Mr. Red Inkman is a liberal teat sucking Democrat who leads a bunch of half witted always offended knuckle draggers down the path of ignorance. Just go ahead and change lion to CNN and get it over with.
                                                                                                                           July 24/18

Typical brain dead, born again, Republican, rhetoric. If you are not Republican you must be a Democrat. If you are a democrat you must be a liberal. If you did not vote for Trump you must have voted for Hillary.


Your president is the biggest asshole to have ever held the office and you are now looking for a new place to spew your bullshit and lies.

Tony Baloney finally gets Building Permit for Old YMCA
Phony Tony Baloney finally got a building permit for the work being done on the old YMCA, but he never got one for the brick façade work he did in April.. He never got a asbestos inspection either; what the hell, the interior is already torn out so there is nothing left in there to inspect. I guess if J Bell can rehab a house next to him with $70,000 worth of additions without a building permit, why would his buddy Tony Baloney need one?
Gotta love this corrupt administration!
                                                                                                                           July 24/18







Today's Quote July 22-23/2018

It is never too late to be what you might have been.
George Eliot

RE: Options Other Than Sullivan
Upon seeing the Negatives regarding Undersheriff Sullivan I have searched and found his opponent. A man named Don Hilton. Mr. Hilton appears to have a good resume in law enforcement and a strong vision for the department. He seems to have much more support than Sullivan a strong support base and has been out in the community. Don Hilton For Sheriff on Facebook.
Do your research before Electing Sullivan and know your options.
                                                                                                                           July 22-23/18

Pauldine Calhill building
So let me get this straight. Pauldine gets a million dollars of taxpayers money to restore the building and puts in 8 apartments so he can collect rent money and doesn't give any money back to the taxpayers. ? Wtf Isn't this how the Mafia works ? And your Mayor Barlow is all good about this. (Looks closely you'll see little Barlow in the back pocket of Pauldine ) This is corruption at it worst. And for Gene Sullivan for Sheriff. Do a little research and background checking , You might want to change your mind about voting for him.
                                                                                                                           July 22-23/18

Schumer to Trump drug czar: Add Oswego County to drug trafficking list
Golly, Imagine if containers full of drugs come right through the Port of Oswego.. right past the Coast Guard, Border Patrol, local police and that guy who says he's with Homeland Security every time he's drunk in public. Where exactly would these drugs be coming from? Mexico? Don't see any Mexican tuna boats in town. Fake fentanyl and other intentionally poisonous synthetics offloaded from soy bean carriers? Heroin comes north on 81.



Schumer to Trump drug czar: Add Oswego County to drug trafficking list
Oswego County seeks federal designation as a high-intensity drug trafficking area.
                                                                                                                           July 22-23/18

All the Jews are in love with Trump for moving the US embassy to Jerusalem. So Shumer is being low key about Trumps treason, obstruction of justice and collusion. All he cares about is getting re elected.

Putin's Puppet!
It is amazing how 80% of Republicans still support Trump. What a scary world that we do live in when such a large group of people put political party over their Country. I can not figure this out for the life of me as it is just so absurd. I am sure if Obama had done what this Lunatic has done these very same 80% that are defending Trump would have been all over Obama calling for impeachment. I know that at least the Democrat's would be calling impeachment had Obama done what this man has done. I'll tell you why, the Democrats have always put their Country over political affiliation. Remember at the Debate between Trump and Hillary Clinton when Hillary said that "You would be a puppet to Putin if elected" " You would try to get out of NATO" What a very politically smart woman. How some ignorant egotistic human being could have ever been elected President (if not with Russia's help) is beyond belief. The Republicans can't possibly be that daffy! Now they go and have a vote to approve funds to look into election hacking and the Republicans vote it down. It is quite obvious as to why, they know if they let the hacking continue that the GOP can win by cheating every election. It is time Republicans to stop protecting this monster and put your Country before Politics. I didn't become a leftist until Donald J Trump turned me into one!
                                                                                                                           July 22-23/18

Wow, someone...and I do mean just about to have a Trump Derangement Syndrome induced stroke, lol. I seriously think you should seek help, it's not healthy to carry so much anger. Look, I know it's not easy but Trump is OUR President and you really should try accepting that FACT. We dodged a bullet when that evil screw b!tch lost (she did lose you know, all on her own). Trump will be through in a few years (unless he runs again, then four more for sure) so just try to relax, breath, take up yoga, coloring, anything to keep that blood pressure down. MAGA baby, gotta love it.
Sent from my Android phone with Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
                                                                                                                           July 22-23/1

Golly gee! Never ceases to amaze me how narrow minded and brain dead the Trumplodytes are. There were four legitimate national candidates for president in 2015. Of course your fake Fox news would not acknowledge that. The pity is the two best candidates finished third and fourth. If your commie loving president lasts a full term it will be to the surprise of everyone on the planet. SMDA

Follow the dollar...
The Trumps money laundering with Russia. Time to see their tax returns!


                                                                                                                           July 22-23/18





Today's Quote July 21/2018

Without feelings of respect, what is there to distinguish men from beasts?

It's spelled out folks in black and white read the hand writing on the wall. It could not be anymore clear as to why our so called President and his (non-running) Republicans DO NOT penalize or put any sanctions on the Russian Government. They just CANNOT make it any more clear. They now actually do realize that after all the damage he has done to this Country VIA of tariffs, tax breaks forever for the top 1% turning his back on our allies, the name calling on top officials and any Democrat that exists on the face of the earth AND HIS overall very UNPRESIDENTIAL actions is why both Trump and the remaining Republican members DO REALIZE that they are in a position now where they can Not win running on a Republican Ticket without Russia meddling in future elections. Rumor even has it that some of these Republicans that are bailing out have talked about the possibility of coming back in time as a DEMOCRAT. That's right folks, at least one has spoken about that possibility as crossing over. At least some of these Republicans do have some common sense while others are afraid if they open their mouths they will be on the outside looking in. What a mess this man with ZERO -O- Political experience has gotten this County into. It time to seriously consider qualifications such as political experience in order to be able to carry the name PRESIDENT of the United States so that we NEVER have to be SHAMED as a Nation ever again by our top official.
                                                                                                                           July 21/18

Port Authority Projected Revenue Needs Revision
Trump/Putin's trade war meant to destabilize western economies and gouge China as well has resulted in a 25% tariff on all soy bean exports to China. This should have a significant effect on the director's bonus check. Time for you Republicans to stand up..and pretend you're independent conservatives. LOL Better yet wait til your daughter smells the vodka and herring on Ivan's breath as he begins to rape her before you make up your minds that Trump and Putin are BUSINESS PARTNERS.

                                                                                                                           July 21/18






Today's Quote July 20/2018

When in doubt, don't.
Benjamin Franklin

Trump/Putin Comrade
When are you brain dead goons going to realize that your savior is a draft dodging, lying, commie suck up. The crap about the Democrats and the poor media always picking on poor Donny is the real fake news. These intelligence reports are from his own people. Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee say they are standing by one of the key conclusions in their report on Russian election interference that questioned whether Russian President Vladimir Putin was trying to help Donald Trump get elected President. It didn’t state that Hilary should have won; it states that they are meddling with our democratic process. That’s a much better way to topple American freedom and our government than dropping a bomb. World War 3 has started by Russia and you’re their best weapon, an ignorant blind supporter of a weak president. However, I see that you probably agree with Putin. You might ask yourself, what if Hilary did win and the Russians changed it? You OK with that? An American election was decided by a foreign power whose only mission is to destroy democracy. Which “hands” do you think are cleaner? Russia were political opponents are murdered, journalists jailed, an economy that only benefits the oligarchy by Putin, or America were dimwits as yourself are afforded the opportunity to spew your inane diatribe. Your questing of our government’s Intelligence agencies over Putin’s laughing denials shows were your loyalties lie. By the way did you read a copy of the house Intelligence committee or is it

“pretty convenient” just to run your mouth? I believe this country is the best one on earth and I am confident that it will survive this narcissistic, ignorant, and petty man you want to be your king.

Спасибо за все, что вы делаете, чтобы продвинуть наше поглощение Америки – Nikita
                                                                                                                           July 20/18

Fantastic Picture of Trump, Putin, and the Republican leadership
That was one of the best pictures that I have ever seen depicting how our government is being run!
As Trump has now become a communist, why do we allow him to wear a UNITED STATES FLAG LAPEL PTN? Maybe someone in our government with a set of ball should walk up to this asshole and rip that pin from his suit.
He has disgraced our flag and constitution. It well known that he is a coward after he got out of serving in Vietnam with a phony 4-f, but trashing our country in a world setting and as the picture depicts, blowing Putin with the consent of the Republican leadership!
Re: Trump/Putin,
The question of the results of the election should never have been discussed, his position should have been...MR PUTIN, WE HAVE CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE THAT YOU TAMPERED WITH OUR ELECTION...STOP !!! He chose to throw our intelligence community and our constitution under the bus!!!
As far as WWIII, he has made enemies of ALL our allies and if we ever have to go to war again it is doubtful they will ever trust the US again. This idiot has lied so much that there is nobody that believes or trusts him across the world, that is except Putin and that other communist in Korea. Here is your answerer as to what a real non-coward President would have done. You might hate Obama, but he looked Putin in the eye and told him to STOP, and expelled 15 of his spies form the United States back to Putin!
                                                                                                                           July 20/18

People... Americans, 'YOU'VE BEEN HAD!'
I've reached the point of just about exploding from frustration reading and listening to the .....arrrrgggghhh..., (gritting my teeth, trying to come up with a word to use that won't send the believers off the deep end...just yet) drivel, to use Ed's word, stuff coming from donald dump's fans/ supporters.
It's going to be hard to find a starting point that people will actually listen to/ pay attention to w/out going stupid & defending the indefensible. A starting point that decent folks, decent Americans may be able to understand and adopt as their own so maybe they can allow themselves to climb out of the nonsense hole they've been directed to dig themselves into by nasty, lying, rotten, conniving, selfish, diabolically bad people... .
The fact that you got hornswoggled by a lying con man doesn't make you stupid, simply conned, like buying a car from a scam artist car salesman. We've all been screwed by this type of hustler in our lives, BUT...., it's the truly ignorant fool that does not admit to his/herself when they've been had and continues to swear allegiance to the crook. They buy another lemon from the him so as not to admit their mistake and deciding against letting it happen again.
People... Americans, 'YOU'VE BEEN HAD!'
Dump IS NOT what he's told you & what you want to believe and defend! He NEVER HAS BEEN!
I am NOT a liberal or democrat or republican or any other name you want to label me, so you can argue with & hate me etc.. I am an American and a proud one at that.
I am not submitting stuff here to argue. I am only doing this to show folks some stuff that I'm sure they didn't know before, stuff that has been fact for many years... NOT FAKE NEWS!
Dump says he's patriotic BUT I think not! He scammed his way out of the draft many times when the rest of us (mistakenly) believed Viet Nam was a patriotic thing, while the entire Nam thing was tearing us, as America, apart.
This POS simply cares about himself and always has. His ego and selfishness is the ONLY thing he gives a crap about. I firmly believe that this jerk would sell America out in order to save his own useless hide or should I say, reputation and view of himself, to protect himself from exposure of his criminal past and illegitimacies.
Ever since the first time I even heard of this individual, somewhere around 1978, I saw him as a braggart and phoney blowhard. Long before he ever used the term 'fake news', that you folks use so often to explain truths you can't or don't want to accept, he was himself a fake. He was spouting all kinds of garbage to boost his image and for many years there has been documentation of just how fake he was/ is. This didn't just start when he began his 'bumper sticker' political campaign that you fell for, and NO!!!! this clown WAS NOT APPOINTED BY GOD! PULEEEEZ... don't blame God for THIS nightmare!
I swear I will not submit anything to the Lion, that I cannot back up with real facts from way before this jerk was screaming 'fake news'.
Taking into consideration how fragile this moron's ego is, I think a lot of the pictures of him that are out there really don't do him any favors and should be submitted to be seen publicly so that his finely polished image can be thrown out w/ the rest of his trash.
Not only do the many photos of him out there do him no favors, I for one am absolutely embarrassed, ashamed and p**sed off about having to admit that this lying, crook is our President. He DOES NOT DESERVE the honor of the title.
People...'YOU'VE BEEN HAD!' Please, as Americans, it is OUR duty to stop this nightmare before he gives us up to the real bad guys out there, if he hasn't already! Let him resign and move to russia, considering they're the only ones left that will loan, invest or launder money through him, since he's screwed all the legitimate banks and companies AND America. Ya think this is fake? Hahaha, not! it's a matter of public record from years back.
                                                                                                                           July 20/18

Here is a presidential photo to be proud of.
America sees him in all of its 'double-chin, fat-assed, fish-mouthed AND puckered anus-mouth' glory.
His freaking idiot fans should be so Fuggin' Proud!

                                                                                                                           July 20/18

Helping the Homeless... Out of Town
I see mayor Barlow has found a way to remove the human eyesores from Broadwell's view. He also can't have the human refuse littering our parks.It spoils the condo sales pitch if the potential sucker catches a whiff of a junkie's ass while he boots up in the bushes. It makes the idea of gentrification seem so far off..somewhere around Neverland, I'm thinking. I see free bus rides to the Salvation Army shelter, Arbor House and Unity Acres. The recalcitrant ones will end up in jail.
BUBBLE BURSTER: Oswego does not meet the basic criteria for a successful gentrification program. "Build it and they will come, just don't build it in Oswego, NY because they already left" Also "Location,Location,Location" does not count as 3 criteria items. Besides the location is questionable for a number of reasons the weather being one of them and just exactly who would move here and from where and for what reason again? Russian "businessmen" maybe with an import export business? Bingo! Start pitching your properties in Moscow, because to them anywhere is better than there and with Trump positioning the Country for a well lubricated Russian occupation you better move fast!
I'm really surprised that Ft.Ontario didn't take an interest in those million dollar New Orleans CSA cannons. Seems like they could have petitioned the State for ownership or the right to restore/display such valuable artifacts somehow. They would have been an immense tourist draw bringing every Son of the Confederacy here to revel in the treason of their ancestors and to just drool over them.Whoever buys Barlow concessions can sell little confederate battle flags and cheap 3-D printed confederate memorial replicas to toothless yahoos wearing their Made in China Make America Great Again hats.I can see past the lack of vision (it's a very short distance)
                                                                                                                           July 20/18







Today's Quote July 19/2018

Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself.
Leo Tolstoy

Pocket Park
Can someone explain why the city would build a park on Water St. next to Toucan’s in a totally crime infested area? Also, isn’t the Veteran’s Park within walking distance of the proposed pocket park? The corruption, and incompetence in this city amazes me. Do they really think all these expensive condos will attract new people to the city? Take the 4 biggest crooks out of here (B, P, A, and K) and just maybe the city can redeem itself.
                                                                                                                           July 19/18














Today's Quote July 16-17/2018


Hold yourself responsible for a higher standard than anybody expects of you. Never excuse yourself.
Henry Ward Beecher



This site is a forum for individuals to express their personal views, comments complaints and beliefs. It also provides the public with an opportunity to expose corruption and criminal acts of public officials and others.


It is not nor will it become a forum for the mindless drivel, lies, and conspiracy theories of the stupid moron who some people call president. If you share a point of view with someone else and wish to share put it in your own words or send a link to it.


I will not repost or reprint the alternate truths and propaganda of Vladimir Putin, his operatives or Trump cult members.




rats jumping ship
Established Concession Business - $350000 (Oswego)

                                                                                                                           July 18/18

Inspired to vote, against you!
I meant Gene Sullivan and his wife a couple of days ago, they were seeking support for our upcoming Sheriff election. The flyer I received had an endorsement from Sheriff Todd, I guess he thought that was a good thing? it went on to say how he has been our Sheriffs number two, I'll leave that one alone!. The slogan from Mr. Todd was safety, security and stability. Now heres how I interpreted the flyer. safety, security and stability for all my officers not for the public, I have been running the Sheriff department for seven years and would like to continue as I have made an awesome investment in the rebuild of this departments appearance to the public and have enjoyed the fruits of the blue brotherhood in leading our good ole boys. Then the very last submission of his service record with our County was "INVOLVED IN ALL OPERATIONAL AND ADMINISTRATIVE ASPECTS OF THE SHERIFFS OFFICE, ouch I would never write those words if I were him, good luck, it did inspire me to find out who else is running and I will vote! Thanks
                                                                                                                           July 18/18

Re: Trump is a Communist
You hit the nail right on the head pal on EVERYTHING! Trump is a disgrace and a embarrassment to our Country. As far as Impeachment that should have happened long before this. To think that he is actually saying that he is running for another term is scary with Russia controlling the elections. Canada if this happens you better be prepared to open your boarders for several Americans. You need not worry about all those back woods Republicans who would even vote for Putin if he was a Republican Candidate because they would still remain as Russia would take over and convert the remaining Redneck Republicans into Communist Rednecks! How Cowardly not to stand up to Putin and to insult the people of this Country by saying that "We are both to blame" Really? We are to blame also for hacking into the elections. Give me a break you U.P.O.S.! The man has gotten the facts as you stated from the FBI, CIA and the entire Judicial System but that means nothing to him because Putin denies it, must be he is telling the truth. He doesn't want to penalize Russia because he know that he would have no help in getting his Spineless and I do mean SPINELESS Congress Re- Elected in November 2018 and he knows without these Spineless bastards that he will be basically all done. Kudos to John McCain and the ones who have had enough and are getting out for standing up for America and not this egotistic balloon head with the white eyes. To call out Meueller and Praise and believe everything Putin says is utterly absurd! Wake up Republican Congress and do your Job that you are being paid to do! Save the United States before it is to late! Putin plans are for us to lose all our allies so that he can come to them with open arms and a smile and say "Come on over and join forces"
                                                                                                                           July 18/18


re: Cop Logs: Sheriff’s Office 07/13/2018
Guess who the prosecutor will probably be……. ANOTHER DRUNK ADA JUNE 2, 2005
Oaks rehired him in 2012 to prosecute welfare fraud. In front of Judge Gracey.
                                                                                                                           July 18/18

"Putin's Poodle"
After the display that "Putin's Poodle" put on Monday at the Summit it is time fellow Republicans to either get on board with the United States of America or fall to Russia along with "Putin's Poodle" you do not need to eat out of his hand like our so called President Donald "Putin's Poodle" Trump does. Make your choice, America or Russia there is no middle here. If you support Trump you support Putin and Russia, there are no two ways about it as it can not be more clear now. We do not need nearly four more years of this stupidity!
                                                                                                                           July 18/18

The Democrats and Media (one in the same) expected President Trump to stand on a world stage and say that Russia changed the outcome of HIS election, thereby stating Hillary really won. Then they would have immediately demanded he resign, It was a another “No win” situation for Mr. Trump. So what do all of you dimwits calling Trump a traitor think he should have done? You so called peace loving leftists sound like you wanted him to start WWIII. What exactly shoudl he have said? I have yet to hear what any of you assholes think he should/could have said that would make any difference at all. All I hear is F this and F that, you are all so worried about appearance (of course you are, you loved Obama). I think Trump should have told Putin to turn over the 12 who were indicted, so they would go to trial and then the world could see exactly what "evidence" the "intelligence community" has on them? The only reason they indicted them is because they know they will never go to trial (pretty convienient if you ask me).You all really believe this country has clean hands? Wake the F up or shut the F up. #WALKAWAY
                                                                                                                           July 18/18

Thar she blow's!!!

                                                                                                                           July 18/18


Re: Cop Logs: Sheriff’s Office 07/13/2018
So what's up with this guy?

                                                                                                                           July 18/18

So what's on Assemblymans Will Barclays mind ? Oswego
Imagine these government proposals A.3315 Create an independent ETHICS Committee, A5864 Public Officers Accountability Act creates a new crime for failure to report corruption, A5657A Economic Development Transparency Act Prohibits state grants or funding an entity or individual who donated to their political campaign within the past year, wow these people must have studied Oswego government. Barclay also says " ethics have never been as big of a concern to voters because they are more concerned about taking care of their families, paying their bills making a living but if people are outraged, there's always one way to create change," that proves it, he has been to Oswego!!!!!!!
                                                                                                                           July 18/18

Liar Liar
It does not surprise me not one iota that the "Trumpster" has yet lied once again. Does he really think that people are that dumb to believe that while he stood there with Putin next to him that he actually meant to say in reference to Russia meddling in the elections "I don't see why it WOULDN'T be Russia meddling in the election". He actually did say what he meant to say "I don't see why Russia WOULD meddle in the election" because his good buddy Putin was right there next to him and knew what he wanted to hear. Mr. Trump you can take that statement that was written for you to read out front of the White House and try and sell it to your Republican Congress because I am sure the majority of Americans aren't buying it! Please Mr. Trump don't waste your time and the American People's time by even as much as thinking about running in 2020 because without help in ''meddling" you have absolutely no chance. Do us all a favor and Resign please. Enough is Enough!









Today's Quote July 16-17/2018

To have been born, lived, and died in Oswego County is to have failed at life.

Eunice Harbison



Trump is a Communist

Just watched the Helsinki conference with Putin and Trump!!!!! I am shocked that this treasonous piece of shit Trump could make the statements this F%@king ass hole made disgracing the United States,the FBI, CIA and our judicial system! The congress and senate should impeach this bastard and get him and that Russia whore he is married to out of the White House and our government. You ignorant red neck, shit heads, should be really proud that you voted and carried this treasonous bastard in Oswego County. You and the NRA better get ready to defend the country you gave away to eventually fight the Russians when they come here to take over the county you love. You veterans should feel really good knowing that when we were sweating our  asses off in Vietnam he had his father ( a Nazi/Communist) buy him a 4-F classification so he could stay in the states and play baseball in college! Not only is he a coward, he is a treasonous communist coward.

I have called our state senators and our congressmen, and hope you do also, stating my desire to have this man impeached.

He is destroying our country. F@%K HIM!!!!!

                                                                                                                           July 17/18


Two years ago I supported John Katko because Dan Maffei was doing nothing for his constituents and at least as a federal Prosecutor Katko took on the Gosek case and put that Republican sex offender in jail where he belonged.


Since their election John Katko and Claudia Tenney have been sucking out of Trumps ass for a year and a half.

Now that the midterm election is fast approaching Katko and Claudia Tenney are starting to put some distance between themselves and their great Fascist leader, Trump.

It is two little too late.





Donald Trump/Peter Strzok

If that isn't the statement of the year! The President of the United States calling FBI Agent Peter Strzok a Disgrace to our Country. Are you freaking kidding me? Of all people to say that a man of this stature is a disgrace to our Country is none other than the man leading our Country Donald J Trump. I in all my years EVER seen a President carry himself as this one does. He had lied time and time again, He runs anyone and everyone down each and every day. He is playing right into Vlad's hands. He is Vlad's puppet. I fear that Trump is trying to start a Bromance with the wrong Fella's. He actually thinks that He is pulling the wool over everyone's eyes including his Republican Congress. Does He not realize that the only reason they sit by and not say a thing? Well we know why, they are scared shitless that if they do rebut him or his stupid policies that their die hard Republicans will vote them out! Notice that the only ones that will speak their minds are the ones not running for re-election and gee, I wonder why their not running. I'll tell you why, they are utterly discussed with this nut! To turn your back on our allies is a disgrace. Without help He would have NEVER been elected and Never will be re-elected without help and we all know where that help is coming from. I wish those few Republicans who still support this nut would WAKE UP! Our Country pride is at stake here people. You Republicans should act like you would if this had been Obama doing what this wing nut is doing! Please hurry up with this investigation as IMPEACHMENT cannot come soon enough!

                                                                                                                          July 17/1



Cop Logs: Sheriff’s Office 07/13/2018

On 7/13/18 at 12:34 a.m., Allan J. Breckenridge, 27, of 2589 State Route 104, Mexico, was arrested for AUO, 1st degree (Consumption of Alcohol in MV); AUO 2nd degree; DWI, 1st offense; Operating MV with BAC .08 of 1%; Fleeing an Officer in MV, 3rd degree, a class A misdemeanor; Reckless Driving, Failure to Obey Police Officer, Resisting Arrest; Inadequate Plate Lamp, and Obstructed Vision following a traffic stop in on State Route 104 the village of Mexico.

Mr. Breckenridge was arraigned by Hon. Judge Gracey in the Town of Mexico Court and remanded to the Oswego County Correctional Facility in lieu of $3,000 cash or $6,000 bond.

Mr. Breckenridge is scheduled to return to court on 7/17/18.

Plant Corn Get Corn

                                                                                                                          July 17/18









Today's Quote July 15/2018

History is a vast early warning system.

Norman Cousins

The Top Bombshells In Robert Mueller's Indictment Of Russian DNC Hackers

                                                                                                                          July 15/18

U.S. accuses Russian spies of 2016 election hacking, summit looms

                                                                                                                          July 15/18

Re: City Pool
Not surprised to hear about the half ass running of the pool. That is Kells motto. He has no clue and thinks that anyone can do certain jobs without experience or proper training. He is too busy being led around by his tank top forewoman and the new hair dresser DockMaster in the parks making them pretty while the rest of the city continues to fall apart. Take a good look around. The mowing along the streets, bridges and lots is a disgrace. Well, mostly on the East side. Nothing ever gets done about that eye sore government/military building on East 9th. They mow once in a while, weeds growing up the fence and look at those pretty weed flowers in the flower pots. And Kells and the Second Ward Alderwomen do NOTHING. I doubt the alderwoman even knows where this is as you NEVER see her. She is to busy being a yes sir bobble head to Kells and company. Oh and don't be fooled by the photo op Mayor. He knows everything that is going on and fully supports whatever Kells does. He is part of the mafia and why he needs to be voted out. You vote him out, and out goes kells and his crew of misfits and then maybe someone with half a brain can get this city back on track. We need a mayor that is here for the citizens not how many time he can get his face in the paper and on the news for nonsense. We need decent jobs brought to this city not paint and flowers!!!
                                                                                                                          July 15/18

some answers on Dunkin Donuts
18 wheeler- easier than they will do at the Big M cluster f*ck. It’s tough enough to get a pickup through there.

Garbage and recycling – Placed in accordance with the way every other business does. Yes other business have the same issue.

Traffic Survey – Yea right

Tim Horton’s – Stockholders made out great with a 12.5 billion dollar buyout by the Burger King corporation.

Engineering Department – what contaminated soil do you know about that the DEC or EPA does not. Is it still a Brownfield site or a Superfund site. What secret info do you have.

Contractor – Why don’t you ask them. Soil compaction, engineering specs?

Broadwell – He missed the boat as far as building another hotel, with the two new ones additional rooms would saturate the market, Drive down prices.

A lot that once held a chocolate factory is certainly large enough, when properly engineered, to handle traffic and business much better than a converted train station for a supermarket. The traffic is a joke, not because of any business, but for the incompetency of the Traffic Department. The same narrow minded bs that has plagued this city for decades still prevails, as I remember with Mayor Ralph Shapiro and his cronies. A company wants to invest in Oswego; let’s show corporate America that Oswego doesn’t want anything to do with progress or an increase in the tax base, no less free world capitalism. We run out any entity that shows any interest in Oswego out of the city to protect certain local interest at the expense of the citizens. Maybe we can run Dunkin Donuts out of town altogether, that will show we mean business, I mean no business. Then you wonder why Broadwell and friends gets tax and other breaks. Well Mayor Shapiro and his cronies are gone but the mindset is not, and you should already know who will fill those vacancies. –

M. Benz
                                                                                                                          July 15/18







Today's Quote July 14/2018

There are many men of principle in both parties in America, but there is no party of principle.
Alexis de Tocqueville

Britain - Hey Donald Trump chant.

                                                                                                                          July 14/18

So Question On Dunkin
Where does the 18 wheeler bringing in product drive in and out ?
And tell me where the Garabage and Recyle sit ?
Was this in the " traffic survey " ?
Ask " Tim Hortons " how there game plan worked ?
Ask the planning and eng dept how it worked ?
Ask the eng dept how come contaminated soil was not removed from the former tim holton sight ?
How come the contractor for aspen dental had to go down 30'-0" to remove bad soil ?
Broadwell knows he has the same thing on the other side, he is just waiting for the state of ny ( taxpayers )to pay for more free property!
And of course , more tax breaks !
I am surprised The he and Kelly's do not build a p
                                                                                                                          July 14/18

City Pool
On this nice hot day we decided to take my grandchildren to the pool to have fun and cool off. We got there early so we could have a little picnic. At 12:30 we were ready to get cooled off. There was a sign posted that the pool would not open until 1:00 because chemicals were off. I was a little upset but figured we would wait. In the meantime there were many children running around in the heat. At 1:00 everyone lined up and waited and waited. Finally at 1:15 someone came to the door and said the pool chemical levels were still low but people could use the splash area. At that point, we left. I have two small grandchildren that I thought might get hurt with all the kids in the sprinkler area. There were at least 8 other cars that left at the same time. I don’t know who is in charge of the pool but this was ridiculous. The pool opened late to begin with. Who is running the city parks? Might it be Kells? Hmmmm, from everything I heard he is not doing his job, is costing the city a lot of money, and is spending a lot of time with a young married lady who also works for the city and has gotten quick promotions. Hey, isn’t Kells also married? Mayor needs to do his job and keep on top of things.
                                                                                                                          July 14/18

So How Does ( Dunkin Food Get Delivered )
The tractor trailer enter and exit ? Small area, is it not ?
Or does Kells,Bells bring it in on 4- wheelers that the city just bought ( thank you spineless aldermen ) !
                                                                                                                          July 14/18






Today's Quote July 13/2018

We have, I fear, confused power with greatness.
Stewart Udall

re: Reuel Todd
Several things come to mind when exploring the mystery of Mr Todd's disappearance from public life. One, he is terminally ill. Two, he's recovering from gender reassignment surgery and will re-emerge on the scene as Reuella Todd - hoping to get elected to office as the best kind of Republican 'female' candidate (a woman who's not a woman). Three, he's in a rehab somewhere and it's not going well.
Four, he's the subject of an FBI criminal investigation. Five, he's in hiding (see #4)
                                                                                                                          July 13/18

Where oh where has Mr. Todd gone?
Where or where is Sheriff Todd, not seeing him seems quite odd, but when our top guns came to town, our awesome Sheriff was wearing a frown, only protected by not letting the public know, it's kinda their way of letting him go, he still gets the fruits of the big blue wall, he just doesn’t stand so very tall, playing the cover up game goes so very deep that no one dares make a peep. It would do no good for the public to know, there soon would be a TV show, to embarrass our justice system in such a way could only bring hurt and much dismay, the guilt is eating his poor old brain, the fact that he tarnished his long lasting reign. and in his own words now he's old and fat, "WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD WE DO THAT".
                                                                                                                          July 13/18






Today's Quote July 12/2018

You are remembered for the rules you break.
Douglas MacArthur

Brett Kavanaugh Had Massive Credit Card Debt. The White House Blames Baseball.

My ass! He is betting on sports teams. The white house put that statement out about season tickets rather than Kavanaugh so if his gambling history is exposed he can claim the white house made the statement and they must have been misinformed.
                                                                                                                          July 12/18

Brett Kavanaugh Ruled Against Workers When No One Else Did

                                                                                                                          July 12/18

JanD Cheater, Liar,
Not surprised when I seen the latest update on Jan D. You blame everyone but yourself. You and your new boyfriend Sean B playing house and drama continues..... you aint ever going to change and you two pathetic losers deserve each other. Slink on back to the trailer park where ya came from, worthless scum!
Keep givin' me the material and I'll keep writin'.
                                                                                                                          July 12/18

Where is Reuel Todd the Sheriff?

Sheriff Todd To Step Down, Endorses Undersheriff

Written by Steve Yablonski, Mar 21, 2018,

OSWEGO – There will be a new sheriff in town after the next election.

Oswego County Sheriff Reuel Todd’s daughter read a letter at the county GOP Committee meeting recently saying that he isn’t running for re-election.

However, she noted that he intends to finish out his term in office.

In his letter to the committee, the sheriff said he supports Undersheriff Gene Sullivan as his successor.

Sullivan confirmed to Oswego County Today that he is considering a run for the position.

He has asked the committee for its support.

Sheriff Todd, has not been seen in public in approximately 2 years. Where is he? Is he ill? No one seems to know where he is. Does he have that many sick days? If he is not capable to perform his duties, he should resign. Ahh! Maybe that is the problem, if the duly elected sheriff resigns for whatever reason, the "GOOD OLE BOYS AND GALS" cannot just put Gene Sullivan in his place, the governor, Andrew Cuomo, would be the one, by law, to appoint a new sheriff

I attended the Fulton Memorial Day parade 2018.................No Moe, only Gene the Undersheriff.

I attended the Oswego Independence Day Parade 2018..............No Moe, only Gene the Undersheriff.

                                                                                                                          July 12/18

Thibodeau's lawyers file new appeal in effort to overturn kidnapping conviction.

                                                                                                                          July 12/18





Today's Quote July 11/2018

In the twenty-first century, the robot will take the place which slave labor occupied in ancient civilization.
Nikola Tesla (1856-1943)


What about the dump in Williamstown where the landlord illegally forced a young couple with 2 kids under the age of 2 out of their apartment by not fixing an electrical problem and shutting off power to the entire apartment?

Ohhh, poor baby landlord. Not gonna fix it because the tenant called code enforcement after 5 days of the power off in their entire apartment?

C.K-You suck and I hope something is done. Even tried to show the place before the other tenant was out or the outlet/power was fixed. You are damn lucky I wasn’t the tenant or every housing agency in Oswego would have a complaint about you!!
                                                                                                                          July 11/18

City employees
How many Broadwell's does it take to run Oswego? Just ask Kells and Barlow....seems like quite a few. Pretty nice to have plenty of jobs for people who 1. don't qualify, 2. don't need the job, and 3. run around like they own this city. So many good CITY RESIDENTS being over looked for employment because of this mafia crap. When are the people of Oswego going to wake up, stand up, and take this city back? Keep being played by the pretty boy and his buddies. You can cover a pile of s*** with pretty flowers, but eventually the stench will seep through.....Hey kells, how about getting out of the park and taking care of the rest of the city? Oh that's right. you tank top wearing forewoman is more important. So what is the dress code for DPW workers? FOR ALL DPW WORKERS!!! Where is the vest when out working in the parks or on the docks? Your bookends need to follow dress codes as well....not everybody is impressed with certain assets as you are......real people with brains can see how things are being run around here and not very well at that. tick tock......time is running out.
                                                                                                                          July 11/18

Strange shit in this town!
To those of you who like the fort and its ghost stories or to take the tour at ghost time in the fort cemetery, want to see a real ghost?just down from the cemetery at the open area of were the port authority rents I recently meant a man who was thin, dressed in black soot overhauls, torn heavy leather coat also black with soot and a strange head hugging hat with ear flaps, he appeared real, just walked right up and spoke with a Hungarian voice and told me he was the only holocaust survivor to die on that army post, he said he helped loosen coal from a large pile and his heater got the pile to warm and dam it, that's what he said dam it and he was gone! strange shit in this town.
                                                                                                                          July 11/18

Sewer stink on East side
Took a ride to St. Paul's cemetery and was sickened by the strong sewer smell. What's up with that Kells? The money we pay for the sewer and we have to be smelling this? All the money being thrown around this city for nonsense and now having to deal with this? Should not be happening. Once again, the East side gets the shaft or should I say gets the Sh*t. Nice job Kells. Keep up the great work...joking!!!!
                                                                                                                          July 11/18








Today's Quote July 9-10/2018

Treat each federal dollar as if it was hard earned; it was - by a taxpayer.
Donald Rumsfeld

Dunk My Donut
No surprise that Shanley owns the property, wasn't he a buddy of Mike Parker? If he acquired the property during the Parker years it should raise obvious suspicions. And YES, to the county assessor who threw shade on another posters comments a few months back, CERTAIN properties that are NOT listed at the OCRPS website do appear at the other site. If you compare the properties that do not show up at both sites then you'll notice the patterns of ownership that the owners for some reason go out of their way to obscure.
Also, what's up with the mystery house on the corner of Bunner and Duer Sts that Kell's crews have done work on many times.On the google map street view the old house number is clearly visible but when you search the address it doesn't exist. I would suggest that a structural engineer inspect that property to determine just exactly what is holding up the monstrous addition. From the street it would appear that glass patio doors are supporting the entire width of the 2nd floor addition only at the corners of structure.Where's the interior load bearing wall? Where's the steel i-beam?
                                                                                                                          July 9-10/18

JFL Boosters
Shanley does have something in common with Pauldine, they're the two biggest JFL* boosters in Oswego County. True Bi-partisan cooperation.

*JFL Junior Fag League
                                                                                                                          July 9-10/18

A once upon a lion
A wise man once told me LOL "You could go all the way down to Mississippi pick out the most racist, corrupt small town deputy you could find bring them all the way to OZ and he would say, you people are bad. It's just that bad in OZ. You could talk until you were blue in the face, no one would believe it really was that bad. But it's not just that bad it's all true."
I tend to agree it really is the land of OZ, it really is that bad.
                                                                                                                          July 9-10/18

25 best counties to live in New York state
You guessed it Ozwego didn’t make the list.
                                                                                                                          July 9-10/18

Who Owns 245 W 1st St ...the new Dunkin Donut location
FACT: P Michael Shanley (Lawyer) owns the property and it has a current assessment of $90,000 and is reported to be sold to Dunkin Donut for $450,000. Do you really think the Planning and ZBA Boards are going to turn this down.
                                                                                                                          July 9-10/18

Chronic violence
Alleged major hard drugs
Minors welcome
Criminally irresponsible management ownership
Don't give your kids an allowance to go here
Its very dangerous
                                                                                                                          July 9-10/18

Planning Board Meeting a Fiasco
Seems this administration has no regard for legal proceedings and just flies by the seat of their pants. This has held true for the past few years and there have been plenty of examples, but this last Planning Board Meeting is just another example of a runaway administration.
This Planning Board Meeting, as described in the Palladium-Times, sounded like a free for all and appeared to be run very unprofessionally. The chair of the board and secretary were absent and Mr. Caraccioli “led the meeting” as the self appointed Chairman, which made the meeting and any activity or meeting notes worthless. It is embarrassing that the remaining members of this board allowed non-member Caraccioli to ignore Robert’s Rules of Order (standard protocol for this board). Here are the rules for replacing the “Chair” who will be absent. “But the regular chairman, knowing that he will be absent from a future meeting, cannot authorize another member to act in his place at such meeting; the secretary, or, in his absence, some other member should in such case call the meeting to order, and a chairman pro tem. be elected who would hold office during that session, unless such office is terminated by the entrance of the president or a vice president, or by the election of another chairman pro tem., which may be done by a majority” . Mr. Caraccioli is NOT a member of this board and was only appointed as the attorney to the Planning Board. There should not have been any discussion on SEQR or traffic studies regarding Dunkin Donut. The people have a right to be heard, and in front of a legally seated board, not a kangaroo court.
This just is one more unethical action by Caraccioli , the most unethical attorney in Oswego County.
                                                                                                                          July 9-10/18

How many employees controlled by Broadwell mob
How much influence do they wield over how many city employees
And the saddest part
They pay the least taxes
What a city
                                                                                                                          July 9-10/18

Water Slide Eagerly Anticipated
I overheard several people at the city pool talking about the water slide and promising their kids that they'd be the first in line. Talking about the pool one mother said "..don't diapers clog the filters? 2nd mother answered "..I just take the diaper off before we get in the pool and if they ask if the baby is in diapers I say, No, he's just small for his age" Also heard that Kell's wants the city to buy a 1963 Oscar-Mayer Weenie-Mobile for his new food vending business, "Kell's Mini-Meat Sticks" He thinks all the ladies want his and that's why his product is modeled after his very meat stick.His creation is served 4 mini-meat sticks in a short bun with a drizzle of oyster sauce. I predict paltry profits. The Tightwad could at least use some of the money from the cannons and buy his own Weenie-Mobile! Hey Kells, get over here and put in my new driveway, how much was that again? cash only right? You should cut Tiny Pauline in on your side job action here in town, not just in Scriba, he might be able to send some customers your way who prefer their meat about the size of an 8 year old.

P.S. I'm the one who floated the Baby Ruth.
                                                                                                                          July 9-10/18






Today's Quote July 8/2018

Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like nobody's watching.
Satchel Paige

City of Oswego paves way for food trucks
Just Like The Carnies(carnival people) also selling fire works. Next we need the Circus, OH we have that already the Mayor is the Ring Leader. Kells preforms the 3 Ring Circus Performing all his equipment through out the city. He try’s to keep his special performers flying high, hoping we don’t catch that ACT. So far we the tax have one purpose pay on time and keep our mouth’s shut. We thought our last officials bad, we have not seen anything yet. So far we have Bobble Heads for Aldermen.When the end comes we can clap our hands and wave GOOD BYE>

                                                                                                                          July 8/18

275 W 1st St, Oswego, Dunkin Donut Proposed site
Sale Price to Dunkin Donut Corp... $450,000 Nigel Travis – Chief Executive Officer and Chairman
The question was asked "who owned the site where Dunkin Donuts was going to be built"...With the help of his unethical friend K Caraccioli, who is pushing this through the Planning Board, Shanley stands to profit $360,000 less taxes of $90,000, a clear profit of $270,000. Is it possible that Mayor Caraccioli is doing this for nothing?

                                                                                                                          July 8/18

Who owns the property?
West 1st and Utica where the new Dunkin Donuts may or may not leave a footprint. 3 years ago while working for the city I was with Jeff Hamill one of our acting supervisors for the DPW at that time we had quite a project going on in front of Paul's big m. we had the whole city block dug up replacing a large break in a water line. During that time Jeff called the owner of that piece of property to ask if we could use that lot for a lay-down yard for equipment during the project. The person he called was his father former mayor Hamill. No big secret just sitting in a pickup truck with. A supervisor.
Domino's Pizza Unveils U.S. Infrastructure Project Filling Potholes

                                                                                                                          July 8/18





Today's Quote July 7/2018

What then is freedom? The power to live as one wishes.
Marcus Tullius Cicero

RE: RT 48 Kaboom
The one doing all the shooting is that little freak that rides up and down the road with his ass hanging out of his pants. At the very least he should be arrested for exposing himself. Don’t feel sorry for him cause he lost parts of his is because of his smoking and thats why he drives the scooter to Stewarts to get more cigs.
                                                                                                                          July 7/18

Traffic and parking
Dunkin Donuts isn’t the problem; it’s the moron who is in charge of traffic. Some examples of this brain dead approach to traffic flow are no right turn lane on the bridge at east 1st and 481, parking in the right hand lane on bridge street (104), and the foolish light on east second and bridge. With the right turn lane on E. 1st the traffic backs up all the way to west second street because some a’hole needs to go straight while fifteen cars behind he/she, need to turn right onto 481. Probably couldn’t make it over in 4 blocks to the right hand lane at E. 4th and Utica. Next time you’re sitting at the E.1st and Utica light notice that the right hand lane terminates right past the Computer outlet. How long did it take them to figure it out when they put the left hand turn off of 481 onto the bridge? Now imagine coming in to town from the west in the right lane of traffic on a state four lane road, you aren’t from here but you believe traffic laws are pretty uniformly administered throughout the state, and all of a sudden someone left their car parked in the lane. If you are towing a trailer or a commercial truck in which you are required to stay in the right lane whenever possible, you got to say to yourself, “what the f’k”. However, if that isn’t enough to waste your time and money, there is always the light at E. 2nd and Bridge. Would someone tell me why this light is needed. Is it for the people to cross over from the elevated parking lot? Wait that’s gone. Every Saturday morning at 5:30 A.M. , when there isn’t a soul in site, the light will turn red while the whole strip is green. Oswego has the same approach to traffic that was used in the 50’s when there were far fewer cars and assessable destinations. Millions have been spent on infrastructure and road improvements, but due to the shortsightedness of whomever is in charge of traffic, its ends up routing traffic in the same manner it was when the streets were cobblestone. Will it change? Probably not, a few landlords may lose parking for their tenants and someone may have to make a left turn at another block. Mid-town Manhattan is easier to navigate through that Oswego on a Friday afternoon. Happy Motoring – ESSO
                                                                                                                          July 7/18

What a wonderful picture the pall painted
What a wonderful spin the columnist in the palladium times put on our fair city, it looked more like a state of the city message, how proud we are of our wonderful city when we can make jest of our dreaded student bar crawl, little mischief makers, my my what a colorful description. As I wondered if it was my older age or do we really have a different city than I see, I thought well you old grinch your not seeing all the good things happening in our city. But I do see those things, what I'm having trouble with is do we have to tolerate dirty dealings within our city, trading sex for rent, paying for jobs to the highest contrbutors, come on at least be fair I would have gone up to 15 grand for that job! and how wonderful if a city truck would deliver my weed each week. I also see our east side children playing and swimming in our only available place at the end of 10 1/2 St. We try hard to remove the needles along the shore, but it would be nice to get some help from our city, ask the pall times to come see how proud we are of our swimming area. When a story like that comes out it reminds me of the difference between democracy and communism. communism, when your told to eat shit, you eat shit and like it period, democracy we spinkle that same piece of shit with sugar then dip it in chocolate and tell you it's a candy bar!. I want the good stuff too! but without the scum bag leaches and a city only concerned with downtown and Haborfest.
                                                                                                                          July 7/18

Who Owns The Property On Utica and West First Street ?
And thank you aldermen for showing your insight , just like the Oswego City Schoolboard shows their power grab !
Bells,Kells,Broadwell ( and other family , regardless of which state they live ) Pauldine, Cloonan , when do the taxpayers start to be a thought ?
                                                                                                                          July 7/18

It never ceases to amaze me what people on your have to say.

That they assume the mayor is some kind of good guy being led astray by the forces of evil in the community is mind boggling. He is a Barlow you morons. When did anyone ever hear of a Barlow that was any damn good.
                                                                                                                          July 7/18









Today's Quote July 6/2018

Every crowd has a silver lining.
P. T. Barnum

Re: Cieszeski
Is that the same ADA who handles driving violations? If so, boy, that guy doesn’t want to provide proof to support accusations.

Great group of ADA’s you have there, Oakes. *please comment respectfully*

                                                                                                                          July 6/18

Perhaps it is time to ask a few questions regarding Undersheriff Sullivan.
Namely, how did he become a deputy in the first place? He has a juvenile record as a felon....that's right a felon. He could have been prosecuted as an adult, however, due to the fact his mother is extremely high up in state politics, and his father was a supreme court judge, this did not happen. Moreover that is how he rose through the ranks so quickly at the sheriff's department.
                                                                                                                          July 6/18

Who Owns The Property ....
at w. 1st and Utica ( Dunkin drive thru ) ?

And if you go into paul's big m , which way do you exit ? I bet on 2nd street !
What moron would want to build a business there ? The traffic is bad enough there now!
Turn it into a small corner sitting Park ! Did it used to be owned by the city before it was given away to the YMCA ( for there profit gain ? ).
Traffic survey my a$$ !
                                                                                                                          July 6/18

'Here we are again, over on Rt. 48, listening to the LOUD sounds of gun shots going off for hours at a time. Yes, it is once again, six years straight now, of KABOOM PLAYING THE RIFLEMAN. It is now after eight at night and it would be so nice to just watch television or fall to sleep. Not happening….

Would the sheriffs department please comment on what is acceptable… do read this site…...
for how many shots can be fired per day……or in this case can you fire your “ guns" from nine to nine non stop. Last week an 80 year old man fell off his bike when the rifle went off within 100 feet from him. I ran out to help him and he stated , that is not some little BB gun, that guy has just shot threee different types of guns in three minutes. He did hutr his leg badly. Tonight my sister “Josie” had an anxiety attack when about 10 shots went off all at once. She is elderly and as she stated, a person does not expect to pay these sky high taxes year after year and have to listen to gun shots for 12 hours on and off all day. It’s terrifying. Sleep, or even a short nap is not possible. Other neighbors do not complain because he is not a nice man. Another mans new dog ran away last week after a shooting practice that lasted for hours. He only had the dog four days. Would someone from the sheriffs department please do something. I will send his address and his name to this site, but you already know who it is. You choose not to interfere. Thank you.
                                                                                                                          July 6/18

Mayor Baarlow
“Lately, I’ve been reading about our constitution and how our country was essentially founded.
He must have skipped school the day they taught that in American History or Social Studies class.
                                                                                                                          July 6/18







Today's Quote July 5/2018

I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do,

because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.
Susan B. Anthony

no more support
Everything our Mayor has done can be found to have a monetary motive, which seems great for our city but the leaches that have attached themselves to our Mayor are the ones reaping the highest rewards. I do not care how you see it, giving high paying city positions to those who donated the most money is just wrong and of course they hire family, girlfriends and even the girlfriends family, we know how that ended it was ok because of who they were, how unfair to overlook the highly qualified people in our D.P.W to place a pal there who now reaps the experience and dedication of our skilled Dept workers that were overlooked when filling that position pull a feather from their ass and put on his cap. For that reason alone our young Mayor will not receive my support again. He has proven himself to be as a true politician as they come! even when throwing candy. Our city is more than Harborfest and downtown the common citizens of our city are definitely overlooked until voting time. Again the haves are happy as long as the have nots are quiet.
                                                                                                                          July 5/18



Oaks rehired him in 2012 to prosecute welfare fraud.

                                                                                                                          July 5/18

OCSD Board Deadlock on Board President Vote
How ironic that the deciding vote for OSCD Board of Ed. will be none other than the illegal board member Jim Bell. The split is between Aimee Callen an Sam Tripp with 3 votes each as Bell was not at the meeting,( Must be he was at the car wash steal quarters from the machines to avoid paying taxes on the money) It goes without saying that Bell, Oswego City Permit Administrator, will vote for Callen for Board President.
It is embarrassing that the Mayor (Barlow), City Attorney (Caraccioli) and Jim Bell,(the phony newly created position of Permit Coordinator/Administrator) have conspired to eliminate the position of Director of Codes to keep Bell on the OCSD Board (Shane Broadwell was in on this as well, and also conspired to get his wife a job through Barlow so he could get free health nsurancei form his wife's city health policy, but that is a story for another time). When Bell was designated as Director of Codes, and then won the school board election, he would have been ineligible to sit on the OCSD Board as he would have been a city official. In his present position, he is not a city official, therefore eligible to be on the board.
It is unfortunate that the corruption form the above city crooks has spilled over in the OSCD. It' bad enough that we have had tax increases, jobs being enhanced so the taxpayers can pay for the Broadwell's and Caraccioli health insurance, phony jobs being created for scum like Bell, (who should spend less time at the car wash and more time in city hall doing his make-believe job), filling city boards with some of the most low life people in the city, money and equipment being stolen by the head of the DPW, grant money going to useless projects to people like Broadwell and Pauldine, but, to interject this corruption to the OCSD Board that is there for the best education of our kids, is disgraceful.
The city of Oswego will never wake up to the corruption that is going on as their heads are in the sand again (just like 2002 with Gosek) or they are part of the current corruption that is festering in this administration. Look around at the condition of the city and the Bullshit this mayor is saying and the propaganda to make him look like a nice little boy. He is just as corrupt as the people he has surrounded himself with. The rot of this administration is smelling.
                                                                                                                          July 5/18

Even Homeland Security?.
Feds: Oswego border agent 'Capn Hook' admits trading child porn while on duty
Is it just me, or does everyone else get the opinion the anyone who works ,lives, or whatever in OSWEGO feels like it's the "I can do anything I want and there are no consequences, " zone of the world???

At least he was found out....
                                                                                                                          July 5/18

Ozwego is the Mecca for sex offenders.


Re: Fort Pool....
Well, all is not lost, you can still load the kids up in the car & take them to the water-park on Utica street between west 5th & 6th streets & let them cool-off as Kells still has that running perfectly.
                                                                                                                          July 5/18







Today's Quote July 4/2018

The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure,

when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them.
Patrick Henry


East side linear walkway!! Wright's Landing being privatized !!
Since when Billboards Signage allowed on city owned property !! Looks like hell !! People that do roofs / and have yard sales should be able to advertise also off the fence !! Also good spot to advertise our Student Housing for the college. Hotel has finally taken over the whole NYS Barge Canal eastside wall !! Next he will be painting No Fishing on the city side walkway !! Concerned taxpayer, don't the aldermen see this let alone the young Mayor that was doing a good job is being taken advantage of by Greed !! These people control and there within his administration doesn't he see this !! Now for Wright's Landing !! Only one place to fish ! All other places you could fish all say No Fishing !! What was once a public bathroom is controlled by the boat renter with a key touchpad for access !! They were not satisfied with just the one !! People have to head to the bushes to relieve themselves like a Dog or hope they make it home !! Noticed some of these are out of town boaters that need not to rent the dock but it would be nice to allow them use of my taxpayer public bathroom if need be !! What was opened is now controlled!! Open the bathroom / and some more fishing for kids example the area in the southwest corner for a start ! The word on the water (street) down there is the people that rent the slips are in Control !! It's an awfull sight to see a family ex. Mom and two kids pull up to fish and get yelled at by the park ranger telling them they can't fish there and they get right back in their car and leave.These kids be it 5 6 yrs of age only want to catch their first fish !! Common Since Mayor don't let others control you , get a handle on it / unless your part of this !! If so my vote next time won't be for you.Would of sent pictures but I don't own a camera !!
                                                                                                                          July 4/18

U.S. border agent charged with distributing child pornography


                                                                                                                          July 4/18

East side linear walkway!! Wright's Landing being privatized !!
Since when Billboards Signage allowed on city owned property !! Looks like hell !! People that do roofs / and have yard sales should be able to advertise also off the fence !! Also good spot to advertise our Student Housing for the college. Hotel has finally taken over the whole NYS Barge Canal eastside wall !! Next he will be painting No Fishing on the city side walkway !! Concerned taxpayer, don't the aldermen see this let alone the young Mayor that was doing a good job is being taken advantage of by Greed !! These people control and there within his administration doesn't he see this !! Now for Wright's Landing !! Only one place to fish ! All other places you could fish all say No Fishing !! What was once a public bathroom is controlled by the boat renter with a key touchpad for access !! They were not satisfied with just the one !! People have to head to the bushes to relieve themselves like a Dog or hope they make it home !! Noticed some of these are out of town boaters that need not to rent the dock but it would be nice to allow them use of my taxpayer public bathroom if need be !! What was opened is now controlled!! Open the bathroom / and some more fishing for kids example the area in the southwest corner for a start ! The word on the water (street) down there is the people that rent the slips are in Control !! It's an awfull sight to see a family ex. Mom and two kids pull up to fish and get yelled at by the park ranger telling them they can't fish there and they get right back in their car and leave.These kids be it 5 6 yrs of age only want to catch their first fish !! Common Since Mayor don't let others control you , get a handle on it / unless your part of this !! If so my vote next time won't be for you.Would of sent pictures but I don't own a camera !!
                                                                                                                          July 4/18







Today's Quote July 3/2018

America will never be destroyed from the outside.

If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.

Abraham Lincoln

Your health care is under attack in federal court – and it could cost you thousands.

The Justice Department is attacking the protections that make it illegal to price gouge you for health care, by arguing in court that they're unconstitutional.

If they get their way, you might have to pay thousands of dollars more per year for insurance.

AARP is taking legal action to challenge their attack on your health care, and we will fight for you in court. But our best chance to make them back down is to raise overwhelming pressure on the White House – and that's where you come in:

Tell the Administration: I won't accept a backdoor attack on our health care!

If the Administration wins in court, the big insurance companies will get a slew of unfair handouts like:

An "age tax" that would let them charge Americans aged 50+ up to 10 times more for health care than everyone else. Take Action >>
A free pass to deny coverage for up to 25 million older Americans dealing with pre-existing conditions like cancer, heart disease, high blood pressure, and more. Take Action >>
Higher drug costs for seniors in the Medicare Part D doughnut hole, who are already struggling with the most expensive prescription drug prices in the world. Take Action >>

Let's be honest about what's happening here, Edward: The Administration and their allies failed to pass their unfair health care policies in Congress, so now they're trying to sneak them through the courts.

Don't let them get away with it: Tell the Administration that you're watching, and you won't stand for their backdoor health care attack! Stop the new backdoor plan to let big insurance companies price gouge older Americans: Send your letter to the Administration NOW!
                                                                                                                          July 3/18

Fort Pool
Way to go Kells!! Hottest week of the summer and you can't even get the Fort Pool open on time. Needs a part I hear and won't be open until mid July? Maybe if you spent more time taking care of business instead of running around with your tank top wearing (she can wear tank tops but the rest of the workers have to wear t shirts and vests and I wish I thought to get a picture when I saw her) girl boss, then maybe the issue with the pool would of been found out and the part ordered in time to be open....By the way, your girl boss is a public servant representing the City of Oswego. Therefore, she should be held to the same standards as the rest of the workforce. She doesn't need to show off her assets. We all know how she got to be a boss.....It certainly wasn't her education and experience.
                                                                                                                          July 3/18

If People Are Crossing The Boarder, It Is Against The Law
This has been the law for 50 years, so please ask, when crossing the boarder, ( illegal ) of course the children are going to be separated, it is the law ! Case in point on a DWI pull over !Would it be better that the limelight be on the amercian homeless instead of the people that are crossing as future democrats voters ? Stop the CRIME from coming into the USA , what a new idea !, why not see what country THEY COME FROM ?
And this might be NEW to you, but in Cailf, they give drivers lic., VOTING RIGHTS, College EDUCATION( taxpayers pay for ), and I did not know that the DEMS , were trying SOO HARD , to CHANGE THE ELECTION, . Remember Sullivan, got caught with his hand in the cooker jar!
yep, so glad the dems know how to change the oil in a lawn mower !
                                                                                                                          July 3/18

A Running List Of The Former Fox News Employees Who Now Work For Trump

                                                                                                                          July 3/18

Hero's in OZ???
In order to make changes you need hero's. Officers with dignity and the heart to make that change. There are no hero's in OZ and that's why many families are still searching for answers. Missing people, not found, unanswered questions to strange deaths. It takes a courageous person to make a difference all that's in OZ is a lion with no courage, a tin man with no heart and a scare crow with no brain, then there's the little man joakes behind the curtain. Start voting them out, you'll find change when the people ban together to make that change. In the end they will be the hero's OZ desperately needs.

                                                                                                                          July 3/18







Today's Quote July 1-2/2018

The best way to cheer yourself up is to try to cheer somebody else up.
Mark Twain

So Who's The Scumbags ?
I'm a senior citizen on Social Security that has lived in Hamilton Homes for almost 25 years. I'm well aware of what most of the fine folks of Oz think of us who reside here. Some of it well deserved, most of it not. I just witnessed yet ANOTHER one of you who does NOT live here drive up in your brand new, expensive vehicle and throw out your weeks trash here in our dumpsters. I'd bet my next check that those of you that dump your trash here ILLEGALLY are the same self righteous asses that have nothing nice to say about this place. Be time I see one of you dumping trash here ILLEGALLY I will video you doing so and will bring it to management here, the police and post your picture here as well. Regardless of what you think of Hamilton Homes and those who live here I'm sure we aren't dumping our trash illegally at YOUR house ! So, who's the 'scumbag' ?
                                                                                                                               July 1-2/18

Trump Responsible for 5 News People Deaths
February 17, 2018 TRUMP TWEETS: "The FAKE NEWS media (failing@nytimes, @CNN, @NBCNews, and many more) is not my enemy. It is the enemy of the American people. SICK!"

June 28,2018 A gunman killed five people in the newsroom of the Capital Gazette newspaper in Annapolis, Maryland

January 30, 1933, the Nazis shut down the country’s democratic institutions, destroyed the freedom of its press and media, and created a one-party state in which opposition was punishable by imprisonment, banishment, or death

Trump won the election with 40% of the population and Hitler won with 37% of the population

The Deaths of the people at the Capital Gazette newspaper in Annapolis, Maryland s fully on the Bloody Hands of Donald J Trump. Trump is one sick asshole!
                                                                                                                               July 1-2/18

Mr. Kells. You work Outside The Oswego City Limits, you pay County tax
Mr Rudick, where do you live ?
Fire Chief, where do you live ?
Police Chief, where do you live ?
City atty., where do you live ?
Board of Education super, where do you live ?
Teachers is the Oswego City School District , Where do you live ?
Mayor of Oswego, NY, still live with your parents ?, because if you do, then You do not pay Oswego county Tax, Oswego City Tax, Oswego School Tax, Water and Sewer Tax, heck, I bet you do not even pay the garbage bill !

I wonder if tells sends out some of the workers or himself to area construction work sites to pick up warning cones, just to save the City of Oswego, NY the added cost of buying them, only to have the ability of marking the bad points around this city ! Maybe there should be at bells, avery. pauline, and broad well ave and wrights landing !

Heck, the Cahill Building, you would think, would NOT have the signage of the former tenant ( on the northside, has been there for 23 years )! You would think, if the City of Oswego, NY , was professional, that it would of been removed the next day ! Welcome to the 19 th century !

Might be time to think about ending Harborfest !
                                                                                                                               July 1-2/18


Re; Oswego streets
Kells is busy installing new sewer lines and putting new sidewalks and *CONCRETE* driveways at rental properties at the "Forks of the Road."

                                                                                                                               July 1-2/18






Today's Quote June 30/2018

Flowers are the sweetest things God ever made and forgot to put a soul into.
Henry Ward Beecher

Former DA Mary Rain Barred From Practicing Law

                                                                                                                               June 29-30/18

OH Cheater
Looks like Jan D found herself new sugar daddy, the only problem is he pays support to his baby momma's. He might be trying to impress her now but it wont last long once the booze wears off. I'll sit back and watch for now....
                                                                                                                               June 29-30/18

Oswego streets
Hey Kells stop playing with your girlfriend and do something about these streets. West Utica street is a mess , How long are you not going to do anything and all that water is just running in the road , Remember taxpayers paid for the water , but not you , You live outside the city where the water is cheap, There are more orange cones throughout the city streets then ever , Hey Barlow are you going to do anything about the head of the DPW . This is just BS , All you care about is taking care of the few ones that paid your way into your office , Drive around the city and start asking the real people how they feel. You'll definitely get a ear full . Dump the cheap suit , fake smile and man up if you got any balls. Your term is ending soon ,,, thank god
                                                                                                                               June 29-30/18

                                                                                                                               June 29-30/18

No body
No weapon
No motive
No credible witness
Lie after lie from the DAs and Sheriff’s Dept.

Only in OZ!


                                                                                                                               June 29-30/18






Today's Quote June 28/2018

Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much.
Helen Keller

Jennifer Wescott
HAHAha Can’t keep a job, no husband, no home. 40 years old and known everywhere as the liar from OZ county about a missing young woman.

There’s still time to make something decent of yourself! But time is ticking. Hahaha Maybe YOU are where you should be right now.
                                                                                                                                 June 27/18

Happen to Drive By The Parents House Of The Mayor Of Oswego, NY
6-27-18 at 10:00 A. M. and the white carmaro was still in the driveway, I guess if you steal, you still need your sleep or does the Bells, Broardwell, Avery and pauline team pick up the sleep time ?
Waterpark on broadwell property, next to river, needs army corps survey, and also, NO ALDERMEN LOOKING INTO THIS MATTER, thank you bobble heads !
Let me guess, another 30 year ,almost ,tax free building plan ! Of course, if they do not comply, taxpayers take over !

                                                                                                                                 June 27/18







Today's Quote June 28/2018

Fishes live in the sea, as men do a-land; the great ones eat up the little ones.
William Shakespeare

Re: Carefree drug scums
Your true story is sooo heartbreaking.
Glad we have the technology now to catch these ‘scums’ without direct interference like what happened in the past. All too often, gas stations are the scene of such transactions. Kudos to ALL those who try to make the world right. Before those..people pass on, hope they find the inner strength to get help.
                                                                                                                                 June 27/18

West side park (Brietbeck)
Tommy is there helping his girl and his best friends wife make the park pretty so the mayor can get some more t.v. news time on what a wonderful job he is doing for the city. He only cares about how many photo ops he can get and figures if he is making people happy by prettying up the city, they won't pay attention to all the behind the scenes favors going on for his little gang of thieves. Now if only the mayor was as enthusiastic about getting some decent paying jobs in the city as he is about making it look pretty, we would be in good shape. The west side and Broadwell avenue are the only places getting a cosmetic face lift as the remainder of the city looks like a ghetto. Hey 2nd ward alderwoman.....don't you ever take a ride around your ward? There are other roads in the 2nd ward other than the one that leads to the doggie park... and that isn't looking very nice these days either. Never seen it look this bad. You are a disgrace to the seat you hold and a do nothing alderman/woman except be a yes vote for the broadwell mafia. You didn't get my vote and you sure as hell won't ever!
                                                                                                                                 June 27/18


Time to rethink Harborfest
It seems it may be time to re-think our communities commitment to our yearly Harborfest, We as a community are paying a high price, every year at this time when we need our D.P.W the most with weather permitting repairs and general city maintenance and street pick ups. However the leadership at our D.P.W is unable to not only gear up all activities to meet our Harborfest preparations but also to serve our community, I thought that maybe the department was just slow, but it seems they are halfast, say that quick! I still commend the people who have to work under this poor leadership style better suited to rental units, these people are employees of the city, don't treat them like they are your renters. I can not believe the job they do despite the leadership, girlfriend and drug dealing family members ( no it hasn't been forgotten yet) more time is needed. This job is way over this gentleman head. Our streets are beginning to look like some of the rental units around us.
                                                                                                                                 June 27/18

Re: Carefree drug scums
Is that the place where Jennifer Westcott works????
                                                                                                                                 June 27/18

Retire at 55 . Why should we see Schumer, Pelosi, Waters at age 80 doing what ? Retire at 55 !

On top of Waters Promoting a riot, what are they doing to move the USA Forward ? Heck, just look at Barlow, tells, bigdick, and the SPINELESS ALDERMEN who bow to ass kissing and a small pension ! You all must be REAL PROUD !

Waterpark on broad
well property ( behind Subway, another property Owned by Broadwell , see the GREED ? ).

Another 30 year pilot program for the greed ?
                                                                                                                                 June 27/18







Today's Quote June 26/2018

We never know the love of a parent till we become parents ourselves.

Henry Ward Beecher

Ed Mervine
Is it true Ed Mervine Counsel for Pathfinder Bank pissed off the board? Is it also true he left this last month with a golden parachute? Enquiring people would like to know!
                                                                                                                                 June 26/18

OH Cheater
I may or may not have gone to school or worked with Jan D. During school she was having an affair with Jim R. Then I recently heard she had moved on with another married man Derek D at her former place of employment and his wife had kicked him out. Now, she moved on to a 3rd affair with Sean B?????? Can this be fore real? Just wait until he figures out what her track record is. I wouldn't think he would want a woman that is a cheater around his daughters... WAKE UP SEAN, she will use you for your money and dump you, Its how she operates!
I wonder if her husband knows?
                                                                                                                                 June 26/18

Harley-Davidson shifting some production overseas to offset costs from Trump tariffs

                                                                                                                                 June 26/18

Oswego DPW Commissioner Kells works on rental properties while broken water-line soaks intersection.

There's been a broken water line for the past week at W. 6th and Utica Street. But DPW Commissioner Kells is workin on rental properties at the forks of the road. New sewer lines, driveways, tax payer pay for this.

Kells has got to go! ASAP! Fire Kells now!


                                                                                                                                 June 26/18

RE: Illegal Immigration
Lets see, how to begin to respond to that manical rant you posted. To begin with, I dont watch Fox News, or CNN or CNBC or ABC, CBS, NBC, etc., I read my news and it isnt the mainstream dribble you were spouting off about. You should really try expanding your horizons, you might learn how to form your own opinion on things. Check out Free Citizen Press, or American Thinker, I'm sure you wont agree with all they post, I dont either, but at least it isnt leftist biased crap that the MSM is. OK, Mitt Romney, seriously? You want another RINO in office? You want another bought and paid for professional politician in office? Isnt that how this country got to where it is now, same shit, different day? Thats laughable. Next, I do have kids, and your attempt to make me feel guilty is as pathetic as the leftist media's is. I suppose you agree with that dimwitted Nixon running for office who called ICE a terrorist organization, or that senile blabbermouth Maxine who lives in a guarded community but thinks the rest of us should welcome everyone and anyone who comes to our borders. Thats just stupid, no other explanation, just stupidness. Jim Jones...Koolaid...what the hell are you even trying to say? LOL Oh yeah, the kids in cages, I never said it was Odumbo's policy, I said the picture that was floating around, the ones you and your leftist friends all shit your pants about, that was taken in 2014, during his reign. LION, we are a country of laws. Ah, last but not least, Russian collusion, LOL. No proof, whatsever, but because you've been told to believe, you believe just like good little sheeple. How about collusion between the DNC, Clinton, the FBI, CIA, Obama, DOJ and the IRS...thats where the real story is...just watch, its gonna get real interesting.
                                                                                                                                 June 26/18


Tom Kells One Man Show At A West Side Park
Hey Tom, how come you are not letting the others play, for instance, the aldermen, the DPW, The INSURANCE UNDERWRITERS for the City, I Bet they would love to see all the proper training to run equipment , so that they do not have to charge such a HIGH INSURANCE COST, but of course, you do not have to worry, because YOU Have tried to side step the union contract between the workers and the taxpayers ! And TWO ALDERMEN that would know about this would be the 4 th ward and the 6 th ward aldermen ! One Union Carpenter, and One Union Plumber ( which lives at britt hills ) !
And also ask the 6 th ward aldermen why the Oswego Speedway is getting water service from the south side without meter ?
                                                                                                                                 June 26/18

Oswego Police Blotter
I wonder why the last 2 Oswego police blotter entries are both ERROR 404 when you try to download. Did somebody "important" get arrested?
                                                                                                                                 June 26/18

Carefree drug scums
Today Monday June 25, 2018. I was at the pit stop gas station on old rt.3 and co.rt. 8 when I noticed an interesting situation. A reddish/maroon colored Chevy Impala was pulled up by the gas pumps and sat there as if they were waiting for someone.
Well my suspicions were true they were in fact doing just that. The female from this vehicle was overjoyed to see a reddish/maroon colored Chevy trailblazer pull in right next to me. The white female from car 1 walked over to the truck which was occupied by 2 people and handed off money to the passenger and the passenger handed the girl a clear red see through baggie with some form white substance in it.
As the girl walked away she was very carefree about looking the bag over as she walked back to her car. What the hell is wrong with people? I cannot believe how stupid people are.
I hope all you scummy oxygen thieves go to prison where you belong. I am so sick of seeing heroin,meth,crack using scums existing. This is not a disease it is just another way for scumbags to f up our world. Let's keep those welfare checks coming in and keep their habits alive while the rest of us the working taxpayers get screwed.
Just to let you know you drug using scums I will be watching you and the cops know your license plate numbers as well as my dash cam and phone footage.

Signed, The watchman
                                                                                                                                 June 26/18

Time to rethink Harborfest
It seems it may be time to re-think our communities commitment to our yearly Harborfest, We as a community are paying a high price, every year at this time when we need our D.P.W the most with weather permitting repairs and general city maintenance and street pick ups. However the leadership at our D.P.W is unable to not only gear up all activities to meet our Harborfest preparations but also to serve our community, I thought that maybe the department was just slow, but it seems they are halfast, say that quick! I still commend the people who have to work under this poor leadership style better suited to rental units, these people are employees of the city, don't treat them like they are your renters. I can not believe the job they do despite the leadership, girlfriend and drug dealing family members ( no it hasn't been forgotten yet) more time is needed. This job is way over this gentleman head. Our streets are beginning to look like some of the rental units around us.
                                                                                                                                 June 26/18







Today's Quote June 25/2018

Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up.
Thomas A. Edison

1,000 Detainees Just Got Sent To A Prison That Staffers Consider Unsafe

                                                                                                                                 June 25/18

The letter in Saturdays paper from Mr. ED PETERS is head on. This city is taking advantage of senior citizens, by CHARGING 1% on our sewer and water bills if not paid by the due date. THAT is alot of free money going to the city COFFERS. SENIORS HAVE TO CHOOSE, FOOD, MEDICATIONS, OR NECESSITIES, the MAYOR CLAIMS HOW MUCH HE IS DOING FOR SENIORS !!!!!! HE HAS HIS HANDS IN OUR POCKETS !!!!!!!!!!! AS i see Oswego, it GOES FROM WEST 8TH ST. TO EAST 1ST (OR BRODWELL AVENUE) , THE REST of the city is a mess!!!!!! HOUSES on east 10th ,between , Oneida and Utica complete rebuilds ,AND NO BUILDING PERMITS ,must be CITY officials buildings (O THATS RIGHT WE HAVE NO CODE ENFORCEMENT DIRECTOR ) TO MUCH COVERUP !!!!!!!!!
                                                                                                                                 June 25/18

Hey Check The Local News Outlet
i Guess the local news outlet ( not ) cannot give the news right Heck, the obits got to run a cycle of five days, why even subscribe to this grab. At least, has backbone !

                                                                                                                                 June 25/18







Today's Quote June 23-24/2018

Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get.

Dale Carnegie




Re: Illegal Immigration

In response to this individual who is another victim of the "ONLY FAKE NEWS" Network Fox News you are the one being brain washed by Fox & Friends. You just keep believing everything that "Crooked Sean Hannity" and the Fox New team keep telling you. It is amazing how this audience believes all the lies and I do mean lies that this Network spreads. Do you mean to try and tell everyone that all the other Networks are wrong? I don't think so pal. You like Fox because they just praise Donald (Jimmy Jones) Trump. I'll bet that if Trump told you to drink the Kool-Aid that you would just like at Jonestown! You said Obama was the one that previously had kids in cages? Well your wrong again it was Bush that signed up for that in 2008 and that's a fact. I was another one of those that voted for Trump in the election, shame on me! I didn't realize that every time this idiots lips were moving that he was lying at the time. I didn't realize that he would try and blame everyone else for his mistakes. If I had realized though if the Collusion was taking place with Russia I would have NEVER voted. I hope the hell that you people aren't ignorant enough to nominate such an idiot to run for another term. I think the Republican Party needs a Mitt Romney or John Boener to get this party back on track. What we DON'T need is four more years of lies and deceit and definitely don't need pence. You don't believe how people like Rachael as you call her "Madcow" can shed tears or Cuomo or "Crooked Hillary" well let me ask you this.........What would you do if you were in their shoes and had your kids taken away? Apparently you don't have kids. It's time to wakeup from the BS that Fox News is feeding it's viewers! The best thing Trumps advisors could do is take ''Twitter" away, keep him off the North lawn at the Whitehouse and stop him from calling into Fox News!

                                                                                                                                 June 23-24/18



CBS News: Sarah Sanders says restaurant owner in Virginia told her to leave.


                                                                                                                                June 23-24/18







Today's Quote June 22/2018

I hate victims who respect their executioners.
Jean-Paul Sartre

Why nothing in the news about the robbery at the east side bryne dairy last week

                                                                                                                                June 22/18


Migrant Children Drugged Without Consent At Government Centers, Court Documents Show

                                                                                                                                June 22/18

Oakes lies like Trump
LMAO agreed. One thing Oakes did was claimed other departments came in and looked over Gary's files, including the attorney general so seeing as they went to meet with Robert Baldasaro where is the reports from the N.Y. state police, FBI, and attorney general claiming they found not faults with their investigation? Are they with holding? Greg buried these 3 departments during his press conference and laid the blame at these departments feet. The blame lays with the sheriff's. No one else. To bad the state boys didn't bury Greg on his lies. Difference Greg between you, the sheriff's and the state police. State police have respect. The rest of you goons do not. How humiliating for you to inform the public state boys cleared your investigation with no record of any of it. Hope they humiliate you right back. I agree 100 percent Greg lies as bad as Donald Dodd. Everyone knew it once he said half the shit he said. But Greg will keep it up. Til he pushes that blue line the wrong way.
                                                                                                                                June 22/18

Best thing
The best thing to come would be Greg being escorted out of the DA office along with his side kick moody in cuffs. Then wheeler, scrutin, petrowski, yerdon, Todd, both brothers, Donald Dodd so on all lined up to pack a federal vehicle and head on down to the slammer. Then we could all line the streets and cheer them on for rounding up the assholes. I'll bring the beer and a lawn chair, it'll be like the Thanks giving parade..where we could all be grateful for good officers doing their job. Right now the goons should be thankful it's not the wild west time. They'd have been removed already by an angry crowd, tared and feathered and thrown over the long bridge. Better yet bring pitch forks. Lmao assholes deserve a good going away party.
                                                                                                                                June 22/18

This stinks!
Oswego, DPW Commissioner Kells - bones tax payers again! Forks of the road. New sewer lines put in by Oswego City DPW to rental houses. (Who owns the rentals houses?) City is only responsible for sewer lines that run down the middle of the street. City is not responsible for replacing home owners sewer line...

In the mean time on W. Utica Street, water main break?
                                                                                                                                June 22/18


Kids Taken From Their Parents At The Border Get Their Toys Confiscated Too
                                                                                                                                June 22/18

Trump is making a move on Social Security...

                                                                                                                                June 22/18

Heading for Bankruptcy
I notice Oz has a new logo. To match the new logo it appears that each and every vehicle is also new. How is this being funded? I would love to know the amount of the kick back Barlow and Kells are pocketing. This is the tax payers’ money, not theirs. Why not put that money into the infrastructure? The are property owners that do not have laterals and are unable to replace failing sewer lines. Once again the city of Oz has chosen to buy a wig and to ignore their mouth full of rotten teeth. Karma never forgets an address....just sayin’
                                                                                                                                June 22/18







Today's Quote June 21/2018

What a man needs in gardening is a cast-iron back, with a hinge in it.
Charles Dudley Warner

Gary Thibodeau...the Death Of Common Sense
Again we are disappointed by an appeals court. It must be law technicalities because anyone can read the case and know there were some very suspicious events.
Why wasn't Mr. Swenkowski's height compared to the Thibodeau's heights? He said Richard was shorter when he walked by him.
Just can't believe that the judges couldn't side step the letter of the law and see what happened here. Some of the judges thought he didn't get a fair trial and they are right...both in 1994-95 & 2014.
BUT it's not over yet.
---- Federal Appeals court
---- NYS committee for the wrongfully convicted.
and there is a chance that someone will come clean, some new people will be arrested and a new trial for them to go to prison.
                                                                                                                                June 21/18

Illegal Immigration
What amazes me is the sheer stupidity of people who are jumping on this "Trump is treating those children like it was 1940's Nazi Germany" bandwagon. To see Rachel Madcow, Mika Brizbrewski, and Hillary "the crook" Clinton almost in tears over the issue is sickening. If you think any of those women, or Cuomo, Scarbourough, or any of the leftists actually give a flying shit about those kids then you are an idiot. Its pure politics (except in Clintons case, she's looking for money). Everyone knows those "horrible pictures of the caged kids" was taken during obama's reign, everyone knows that this country has immigration laws that are just like any other law, you do the crime you do the time, its that simple. But no, the leftists use it as just another way to slam Trump, it really is scary to see so many people fall for this crap. But its working, its pulling peoples attention away from the recently released IG report, or the soon to be released indictments of many of obamas deep state cronies. Ok, you can go back to watching CNN now, have fun being brainwashed.
                                                                                                                                June 21/18


Watch "Video shows children inside a Texas Border Patrol detention center" on YouTube

                                                                                                                                June 21/18

Hazard County or Oz
There once was the youngest Mayor, who took a chance and won, he thought running a city should be lots of fun, he had big money contributors and just had to pay them back, with jobs for all and families to, positions we don't lack, but as the city begins to bog, and you look more and more like Hughey Hog, with hair slicked backed and dressed to kill doin the job the peoples will, with fast white car and young chick to boot, you have quite a horn to toot, but karma comes around and it's on your heels come voting time we will see how the city really feels about hiring and other slick deals, there's always that thing that money don't tote, we all get the chance to vote, you got those votes one at a time, I'll bet you can't respend that dime, and get real close to Barclay and give him money too, remember once he gets it, now he must owe you tooooooo! So sit right back and have a cold drink, the public can't see, and the public can't think!.
                                                                                                                                June 21/18







Today's Quote June 20/2018

A politician should have three hats.

One for throwing into the ring,

one for talking through,

and one for pulling rabbits out of if elected.

Carl Sandburg


Trump's Space Force..Already Existed Since 1985!!!
Next thing he'll lie about is inventing shoes,sliced bread and Coca-Cola.

                                                                                                                                June 20/18

Popular downtown Dunkin' Donuts to close by end of June, employees say
AND somebody thinks they will do better in Downtown Oswego??? Who will get a bonus???


                                                                                                                                June 20/18

Oaks Lies Like Trump
The little moron is claiming that the recent court decision in the Thibodeau matter some how is a declaration that there is no wrong doing in the District Attorney’s office or the Sheriff’s Department.
You are so full of shit you should change your name to Donald Oaks.
                                                                                                                                June 20/18

All this stuff about children being separated from parents of illegal immigrants, solution: Enter the united states of AMERICA legally, case closed!!
                                                                                                                                June 20/18

are you aware the billy barlow and Hannibal Terry Wilbur, county legislator work in Assemblyman Barkley's office. I did not know that. is that a conflict of interest
We must always change, renew, rejuvenate ourselves, otherwise we harden. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
                                                                                                                                June 20/18

Oswego Hospital cheater
Ladies, if your husband is employed at Oswego Hospital, WATCH OUT....we have another cheating whore hired there. Jan D, She loves to drink and party at the scumholes of Sandy Creek, Pulaski, Mexico and Fulton. Also seen hanging out at Chedmardo Camp Grounds.
Watch and see what comes up missing next OH......
                                                                                                                                June 20/18







Today's Quote June 19/2018

Parents and schools should place great emphasis on the idea that it is all right to be different. Racism and all the other 'isms' grow from primitive tribalism, the instinctive hostility against those of another tribe, race, religion, nationality, class or whatever. You are a lucky child if your parents taught you to accept diversity.

Roger Ebert


Immigrates on Mexican Boarder
Just saw the holding pens for the immigrates coming across the Mexican border at Texas, and all Trump needs are the showers and Zyklon-B and his immigration policy will be fulfilled. Pretty sad!
                                                                                                                                June 19/18

RE: EAST SIDE SLUMS, message from the wrong side of the tracks
We on the east side are very aware of the environment around us over here. We also know and have our place, When we report a large sinkhole with no support under an area of pavement west side you get repairs east side we have waited since Memorial day to have something done we get a orange barrel, left for traffic to choose which side to pass on. We also do not enjoy the refuse pickup, we spend our summer looking at large piles our D.P.W passes daily, I understand that limb pickup is better as far away as silver lake on 85 and also quicker service in Scriba. When we attempt to improve our homes appearance we had our assessment raised 11 thousand dollars for our efforts. We also live on a block were there are over 15 rental units within a half block area, we tolerate open trash containers with debris flying into our yards. we ALSO OFFER A DRAG STRIP FOR OUR CITY VEHICLES during work hours and then at work days end. So give us a little credit, we are not a part of harborfest so city money will never get to use. Even our military station flips us off by growing large weeds in their planters. We need more low income housing over here and I'm willing to bet that is what the east side future holds. We are so sorry we moved here!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the only good thing over here is our police presents they are here all the time, GOD BLESS THEM.
                                                                                                                                June 19/18

HHmm. Mr. Oswego County DA was representing “The People” during the Hearing as if the Defense was prosecuting the 3 and they were defending the 3.

That’s not what the Hearing was for, dopes. Lisa said years ago that the Defense wasn’t required to present ‘who’ else did or could have kidnapped Heidi just that there was a great possibility that Gary did not. Clearly King made a personal determination of their credibility.

Ms. Rivera summed the dissenting members’ determination rather well- it was not up to the Court to decide if the testimony was credible or not but rather to determine if All presented would have changed the outcome.

Dodd, Oakes, Todd, Wheeler, and others, should ALL be sanctioned. Yerdon, VanPatten and Curtis, we didn’t forget about you!!

Oakes-dumber than a box of rocks or can’t read/understand words put together to form sentences. Might I suggest college level reading comprehension. Or at the very least, get a dictionary man if you don’t know what word combinations mean.

3 out of 4 dissenting and those dissenters making a comprehensive analysis of ALL original trial testimony vs the majority’s one sided (confirmation bias) decision?
                                                                                                                                June 19/18

Hang in there Gary and Ms. Peebles -- Go For It!!
Tom Decastyournuts ( school board )
Tom actually trained to remove a oswego high school teacher and send that teacher to the middle school, in return, take that teacher ( which was not even certified in that position ) to replace, ONLY BECAUSE IT WAS ONE OF TOM ( family and friends ) power play ! And he did say, “ I Am the Schoolboard “ , wow !
This is what the city of oswego, ny is about !

And this morning at 9;45 a.m. ,saw the mayor of oswego get out of his white camaro, with his greased back hair and those pointed shoes ! Is this how a mayor is suppose to look, after all, would you want a greased up male rep the city of oswego or some that would know how to dress in a business manner, and have people that could run their depts ! Heck, it might be a good idea if the mayor dressed and went to the office in a suit , everyday !
                                                                                                                                June 19/18


Does the City Of Oswego, NY Provide The Mayor With A VECHILE ?
White Camaro , tag number “ WG-12 “ . And was there office hours set up for the mayor , to be in office, and how many day s a week where they suppose to be there ? And does the mayor have any running accts. with the local motel, hotel, b&d . I bet he has a great view of the westside from the eastside !
                                                                                                                                June 19/18







Today's Quote June 18/2018

Sins cannot be undone, only forgiven.
Igor Stravinsky

Just A Question
Is someone who gets public asst. the same as low income ?
                                                                                                                                June 18/18

According to the Census Bureau it is.

East Side
Driving around the East side this weekend, North and East of Bridge street-East Seneca, Mitchell, George, Cayuga and St. Paul's and what a site. Weeds thigh high. Any property that the city USED to maintain is over grown. Can't even see cars coming when pulling off of St.Paul's on to Mithchell looking West. Looks like the slums of Oswego. Maybe Kells ought to stop playing with his girlfriend and Mrs. BROADWELL, Oh I mean the Dock Master in the parks and get to cutting some tall grass and weeds....What a sightly drive going up to the nice doggie park! Have NEVER seen it look this bad and he has doubled the work force.....
                                                                                                                                June 18/18





Today's Quote June 15-17/2018

No one can avoid aging, but aging productively is something else.
Katharine Graham

Riverside Cemertery
I went to check on the flowers at Riverside ,and the gate was close and the sign on the gate said High Voltage it was 12:45 pm. I like to know why?
                                                                                                                                June 15-17/18

Britt Hills Construction Project
Who owns the property ? Is this a project that might be a “ Waterhouse pumping station “ ?
Is this for the Oswego Speedway ? Campers are the first thought !
Is this another side step from barlow, tells, bell ,avery, broad well, ruddick, code enforcement and the engineering dept looking the other way ?
I did not know, that bring in housing into the middle of a small city ( oswego ) mid and low income housing, was attracting people and business to come here !

Haborfest, low income housing brings what ? to oswego ? Water park is just another bathing pool ! Bring the soap !
                                                                                                                                June 15-17/18

Oswego Schoolbo
ard Members Pushing Out Teacher
Tom Decastrol, you are a phony ,as phony come ! Telling everybody that YOU ARE THE SCHOOLBOARD ! And I think the Taxpayers of the school district. would like to know, who the kiss asses that were running for the school board !
What a bunch of coffee drinking kiss asses, ( I am going to hold your dixk in my hand , because i think you are great, Please wipe your mouth !

And it might be another thought, why not ask the former mayor of oswego, ny about the ballet stuffing that he got caught in, but was never reported ! Oswego Polittics is dirty as it comes, pauline, you are truly trying to master this craft !

Heck, sullivan can not even get the sax player’s name right on his letter to the editor right !
                                                                                                                                June 15-17/18








Today's Quote June 14/2018

The things that we love tell us what we are.
Thomas Aquinas

Re: Private property being cleared by Oswego DPW with city equipment /

and city DPW workers. (DPW Com., Kells?)

                                                                                                                                June 14/18

Father's Day Gift Suggestions if You Live Next Door to a Nazi
CAUTION: make sure you don't have any of the real item in your house before using these products and for 30 days after you start. The 30 days is to allow time for the nuisance complaints to become officially unfounded.

                                                                                                                                June 14/18

Trump Claiming Victory?
It is absurd that our President is already claiming Victory after his 48 minute talk with the N. Korean Leader. Does he not realize that this is possibly a setup between China, Russia and N. Korea in an effort to not just get sanctions removed on N. Korea but to mainly get our Military removed from the Korean Peninsula. He needs to realize who he is dealing with people, this is not the Pope and Bishops that he is making deals with. What gives this man the right to decide on his own that he can just come out and say that he will basically remove all Military drills that the U.S. and S. Korea have been conducting for years on the Peninsula? The shock here is his "GOP CULT" is not defying him in any mater that he solely takes upon himself to do. This is a very DANGEROUS President don't kid yourselves fellow Republicans and wake up and call your congressmen and voice any concerns that you may have before it is to late. With the players involved in this Scenario it may be later than we think. In my opinion this man has turned the Republican Congress and their followers into very Cult like just as U.S. Senator Bob Corker (R) Tennessee has stated. It is also understandable why they voted for his Big Tax cut as they are the ones that most benefit from it. It's not the 9-5 workers, not the ones who work shift work or those who have to work two or three jobs in order to pay the bills (which will only get higher with his tariff's) Senior's on Medicare and Social Security did not benefit from the tax cuts as a matter of fact these are the ones who will be paying for the tax cuts as soon as the mid term elections are over with. People it is time to wake up and see what this kniver is doing. Never trust an individual who lies like a rug!
                                                                                                                                June 14/18

It Should Be...
Politician that is going to run for another office, should give up the present office ! Only fair to the taxpayers !
                                                                                                                                June 14/18







Today's Quote June 13/2018

We all live with the objective of being happy; our lives are all different and yet the same.

Anne Frank

Re Had Oswego Buildings
If City Hall, Jason Dickhead, and others try to play this History rebuild, they have to hire a Certified rebuild arch to research and approve and submit rehab contractors, materials, time frame, funding, asb survey, that includes the roof also ! I am sure the tony pauline does not have any of the proper certif Lic. to conduct proper construction inspection, asb inspection, site inspection, site removal, site storage, site displacement,, site testing, site disposal, ( just like he did on the Lambrinos dry cleaners on east first street ) ! Where was the mayor, code enforcement, zoning enforcement, fire dept, police, insurance companies ,aldermen ( most of all ) and those smart teachers and current super at the time, not concerend about construction run overs !

And what about those pilot agreements ! I am so glad that these voted in pin heads can do math on the 1 st grade level ( might be in question ), because it is costion taxpayers monies, while broad well, pauline, and other money grabbers, keep reaching into or should i say it this way, running there hands right into our pockets with both of THEIR HANDS and SMILING AT THE SAMETIME !

Yes, this city needs more low income housing, and with their great monies thought in mind, They Put It Right In The Middle Of The Freackin City!
Yep, this city needs more low income housing, tattoo houses, coffee shops and smoke stores and pawnshops ! Great Vision, might as well have Mr Gooey run the WHOLE SHOW !
                                                                                                                                June 13/18








Today's Quote June 12/2018

Mankind has probably done more damage to the Earth in the 20th century than in all of previous human history.
Yves Cousteau

21 Talisman Terrance Britney Hills Oswego Ny
Private property being cleared by Oswego DPW with city equipment /and city DPW workers !! working like worker bees !! Could use them to do some work for me / around the corner!!Taxpayer dollars being used ?? Does property owner owe us for the equipment and man hrs ?? Same location where fire hydrant was hooked up without a meter on it / used for Famous Dirt Week / there again as Taxpayer I pay $275 quarter for water and sewer !! Did we get paid for that service we provided to Dirt Week ??Nice job on taxpayer $$! Or was I wrong for not asking / be nice to know what's going on here!! History repeating itself all over again with City owned taxpayers equipment !!
                                                                                                                                June 12/18








Today's Quote June 10-11/2018

Be not simply good - be good for something.
Henry David Thoreau

Fox is back on the air!
Attention NASCAR Racing Fans, You will actually be able to watch the race at the Michigan Speedway on Fox Channel 8 in this area on Sunday June 9th as both Channel 7 and Channel 8 through Spectrum is back on the air. Finally!
                                                                                                                                June 10-11/18

Fox & Friends' Host Calls North Korea Summit A Meeting Of 'Two

                                                                                                                                June 10-11/18






Today's Quote June 9/2018

Bureaucrats: they are dead at 30 and buried at 60.

They are like custard pies; you can't nail them to a wall.
Frank Lloyd Wright

Attention Oswego Seniors!
How many Seniors are aware that Paul Ryan and his fellow Republicans have voted to Decimate Medicare. Yes that is correct folks they voted to destroy Medicare. The main reason is that by using funds that could have been put into the system which is due to run out of money in 2026 has been divided up among the top 1% through a outrageous tax break led by Donald J Trump. Next on the agenda is our Social Security Benefits as they have just started tapping into the reserve fund which is expected to run out by the year 2032. It makes me sick to my stomach to think that this President has put the Countries Richest over our Senior Citizens by giving Billions away to the top 1%, You talk about a Robin Hood reversal folks, that's right Mr. Trump and his fellow Republicans are taking from the poor and giving to the rich. I am not a Hillary supporter by no means or ever was as a matter of fact I am another one who voted for Trump, shame on me! But in Hillary Clinton's defense I will say one thing about Hillary is that She ran her Campaign on saving Medicare and Social Security. Now were stuck with a Paul Ryan and Trump who wants to Decimate Medicare and take more from Medicaid, change Social Security and continue to give tax breaks to the wealthiest. It is time that our Republicans that we voted in to look out for us all to stop looking the other way and take the blinders off as to what this President is doing to us and our Country. He lies, Cheats and He may have possibly even stole the election with a little help from his friends and we all know who those friends are. Pardon me to if anyone thinks I was to harsh!
                                                                                                                                June 8/18

Scooters around town
People that choose to ride scooters in traffic in our city had better learn the rules of the road before they end up with road rash or worse, road kill.

Failure to yield the right of way and following too close will get you hurt, physically and financially.
                                                                                                                                June 8/18

I voted wrong again, he is not the lesser of two evils
This young man had an awesome opportunity to not only help our city, but also to set a foundation for a political career. But instead he got taken in by some real ass holes, why do we not hire friends and family, well number one, it just does not look right and in the long run as you can see it just never works out. When someone wrote about the girl friend supervisor who would have to go into work on the night shift, was it because there was no other person who could have delegated the shifts work, no it's because when your doing dirty business it becomes imperative that you have your finger on the pulse of everything that goes on around you, thus a girlfriend supervisor. I understand the marina has the same type of leadership. I do not believe that our mayor will serve a second term and we have to assume we have now seen his true colors and we as citizens are NOT on the painters pallet. When he leaves office they will still be reaping the benefits he has provided them I hope they will remember him
                                                                                                                                June 8/18

Trump’s Policies Paying Off For Man Who Helped Make Him President: Vladimir Putin

                                                                                                                                June 8/18







Today's Quote June 8/2018

One-third of the people in the United States promote, while the other two-thirds provide.

Will Rogers

Unfortunate Facts
How many Oswego police officers are combat veterans? The reason I ask is to make sure the city has the proper liability coverage in case one of them shoots somebody. Why would a combat veteran with 0 police experience shoot at anything that moves? Go figure it out. LOL If you compare statistics on police officers nationwide you'll discover an alarming trend. The one's who've recently gunned down unarmed civilians are nearly ALL combat vets.Is the Trump administration waging war against half the population of America? Will poverty be criminalized? We're 2 steps closer to Putin's dream. The Trump organization in case you haven't noticed is a criminal enterprise modeled after Russia's oligarchs and the Mafia.Why do you think Mueller's in charge of the criminal investigation? Because he's the best MOB prosecutor in the FBI. P.S. Sessions is well aware of Trump's criminality and will be happy to see him indicted.

I can remember when all the afternoon talk shows were doing stories about how viet Nam vets were ticking time bombs just waiting for some one or some thing to set them off.
Do not put too much stock in it. Some people have a harder time adjusting to life back in the real world. You never really pick up where you left off.

Stabbing at Oswego County DSS
What’s with the news blackout about the stabbing at Oswego County DSS? This is the only news about it:

No details, no description of the incident, no mention of the suspect who they supposedly was apprehended. Retired Oswego County Sheriff’s deputies staff the security there. Why so hush, hush? If a retired officer was on duty, how was someone able to stab someone and run away? Too many questions and no answers. This is what happens whenever Oswego County Sheriff’s Department is involved. Must be someone’s buddy or relative of the “good ole boys OZ club”. Answer the public Moe Todd, or were you at the casino again this afternoon? Moe even hid at the Memorial Day Parade in Fulton, had Gene Sullivan, riding in the Sheriff’s SUV. Are we paying Moe to hide away at the casino?
                                                                                                                                June 8/18

Barron Trump Emperor for Life
I don't believe I've ever seen a more evil, brooding,volatile personality in any former White House child in my entire life. Like father like son? I can only imagine the kind of education he's actually receiving outside of prep school. He probably raped HIS first housekeeper at age 10. It's also easy to imagine Putin grooming him as he did his father with the expert assistance of FSB operative Melania who he recruited as director of the KGB at age 18. I can envision a time 20 years from now when Barron is declared Emperor for Life of Trumpland and his new reality show is obviously called Armageddon. it's all about the Nielsen ratings.
                                                                                                                                June 8/18









Today's Quote June 7/2018

It is the soothing thing about history that it does repeat itself.
Gertrude Stein


Re: What the Mailman Said
Use the County GIS. Every square inch of the County is mapped with land parcels. You can click on any box and get the owner, address, and a link back to the real property site you mentioned. There aren't any "hidden" properties anymore now that we have aerial imagery. Find another conspiracy theory.
                                                                                                                                June 7/18



The two of them had prior drug related arrests. Barlow and Kells knew it to.
                                                                                                                                June 7/18


What do you the taxpayer get, and how much do you lose,

and who controls who gets a P.I.L.O.T. agreement?

                                                                                                                                June 7/18






Today's Quote June 6/2018

Patriotism is supporting your country all the time,

and your government when it deserves it.
Mark Twain

The city of Oswego and their champagne taste and flat beer pocket book.
After a trip into Oswego it's plain to see the problems this city has. Does the dpw have the knowledge to run a laser Transit? Every man hole cover is at a different height and nearly impossible to avoid.
It's real nice that the city is using the millions of dollars to build things the city really doesn't need instead of being responsible and repair the things we have.
The city really needs to crack down on all the handyman and so called general contractors. Since when has it ever been ok to support floors with 3/8 all tread (pauldine) and illegally removing asbestos that another fly by night contractor leaves out in plain sight over at 22 Cayuga St (Tony again).
Why doesn't this town grow a set and stand up for what this city needs. It needs a good cleaning. Quit letting the business owners run this town and get some people in there who can bring a change to this town.
                                                                                                                                June 6/18

What the Mailman Said
"..I've always wondered about certain homes in town that appeared well maintained and have no house number. I've never delivered mail to" Are these homes in probate? If so is anyone paying property taxes on them? Is this another scam to acquire these properties a la Mike Parker?
If you all did a survey of your own streets using the OCRPS you will find homes that do not appear anywhere at the site. Some homes are listed under the WRONG address. Are they hidden for some reason or simply not listed at all?? Either way it's more criminal activity and corruption.
                                                                                                                                June 6/18








Today's Quote June 5/2018

The world's great men have not commonly been great scholars, nor its great scholars great men.
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.

Don't the talking heads have enough sex scandals to talk about with Trump paying whores hundreds of thousands dollars to keep their mouths shut? Now they want to talk about Clinton-Lewinsky, two consenting adults, where Lewinsky gave Clinton a BJ. They were both consenting adults, but Trump hires whores and pays to keep them quite. Time for the "Talking Heads" to start concentrating on this lying piece of shit that now sits in the big chair at the White House. They might also want to re-visit his current wife and what she did before they were married.

Clinton–Lewinsky scandal. The Clinton–Lewinsky scandal was an American political sex scandal that involved 49-year-old President Bill Clinton and 22-year-old White House intern Monica Lewinsky. The sexual relationship took place between 1995 and 1997 and came to light in 1998.
                                                                                                                                June 5/18


Trump and Clinton, what a pair they make. One can‘t read and the other can’t write.

Clinton deserves to be bashed and trashed every bit as much as Trump. Neither one of them are any god damn good.

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman" Bill Clinton 1998
"I've never talked to her, (
Monica  Lewinsky)" Bill Clinton 2018
Twenty years and the lying bastard still can’t call the woman by her name.

He used his power and position to seduce a 22 year old subordinate. He disgraced the office of the president and embarrassed the country.

By fighting impeachment he thinks he was defending the constitution?

He is just as screwed up in the head as Trump and he is just as big an asshole. Dear Slick Willie take your stupid book that someone else wrote for you and shove it up your ass then rot in hell YOU NO GOOD FUCKING SON OF A BITCH!


U.N. Expert: America's Poor Becoming More Destitute Under Trump

                                                                                                                                June 5/18

Re: Commercial Landlords vs. Taxpayer Landlords.
If the registered Republican taxpayers of Oswego knew how many properties might not even be listed on the tax rolls, how many properties are undervalued until it's time to sell, how much renovation is done without permits, how much work is done on private property by city workers, how many city cops and firemen are slumlords, how many condemnable slumlord dwellings are still condemnable, all their personal immorality, lack of ethics and sexual perversion next election they might just vote guessed it, the same assholes because those same tax paying Republicans are the beneficiaries of the corruption!
                                                                                                                                June 5/18

Trumps Wife
Melania finally showed herself in public. Amazing how fast doctors can take care of a black eye and cut lip these days.
                                                                                                                                June 5/18


                                                                                                                                June 5/18

Buying Votes
Does New York State really need MORE LOW INCOME HOUSING ? That is what city hall is doing !
Ask the question, how friendly is city hall to the taxpayers, who might need one year or two , to get taxes in order ?
How many taxpayers had to file ( no income ) , so they had to give there property to the bank and city hall because they were behind in taxes, two years ?
Now this would not be a property grab on pauline, avery, tells, bell, broad well, and others, would it ?
The Greed is Big, the voter turnout is small !
                                                                                                                                June 5/18

Trump tax cuts a "Hoax" for Middle class!
The Trump tax cuts were nothing less than a slap in the face to the middle class. This tax cut was mainly directed to the top 1% like himself. Another one of his many "white lies" was that this tax cut would do nothing to help people like himself.
It was drawn up for people like himself with no expiration date, in other words it is "FOREVER" Folks, that's correct "Forever". He already knows when push comes to shove that He'll go after the people who are the weakest prey such as the ones who depend on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security recipients. You can bet your bottom dollar folks that this man is not looking out for the lower to middle class of our society but looking out for the ones in his class. He is going to drain the lower to middle class if he drains anything, of anything we have. Look what pulling out of the Iran Nuclear Deal has done to oil (gas) prices already! Wait until you go shopping after all these tariff's kick in with all these other Countries who thought the USA was their friend. The man doesn't even listen to his own party when making these rash decisions and if you thought healthcare was expensive when Obama came up with his "Obama Care" well you have not seen nothing yet! Wait until you see what you will be paying under "Trump Care" My fellow Republicans it is time to wake up and not kiss up to this loose unit. He needs to be stopped ASAP and definitely not re-elected for another term. He even lies to his own political party. I will admit that I did vote for this loooose unit and it was the BIGGEST mistake that I ever made! There are times when we should not be for someone because they are representing our political party and this is definitely one of them. Hopefully Mitt Romney will be the nominee for the 2020 election, NOT Donald J Trump! He just wants to widen the gap between the middle class and himself!
                                                                                                                                June 5/18







Today's Quote June 3-4/2018

Neither current events nor history show that the majority rule, or ever did rule.

Jefferson Davis

America's poor becoming more destitute under Trump

                                                                                                                                June 3-4/18

Trump has spent more visiting Mar-a-Lago than Mueller has on Russia probe

                                                                                                                                June 3-4/18

Trump lawyers’ argument that he can’t obstruct justice would be valid in a dictatorship

                                                                                                                                June 3-4/18

Commercial Landlords vs. Taxpayer Land|ords .
How does one compare to the behind taxes ( commercial to private ) ?
Pauline does not get demo permit, dumpster permit, building permit, Asb. Abatement Survey ,have trained workers ,on site ! Please, let us see the OSHA 10 and 30 cards ! Taxpayers should be concerned, because if these workers and owner of the company ( pauline ) are not going by the proper abatement, the tax payers are are at risk and pauldine is saving thousands of dollars and the code office, zoning office, tax office, engineering office, community development office ( ruddick, you could not water grass ) !
And if the Mayor was a ground shaker, how come he is not in the office at 6:00 A. M. ? After all, running this Great city of oswego, ny , you would think that it takes 16 hour days, not 5 hour days !
Hey Kells, drop the city truck and the gas card , and show what YOU are really made off ?
P.S. Do you have any FAMILY in City Hall, Board of Education and maybe in the Broadwell Empire ? Or do you look for people to BOW !
Time to take this City of Oswego , Back !
                                                                                                                                June 3-4/18








Today's Quote June 2/2018

If you love what you do, then you always find the time.
Heidi Klum

Imagine Spectrum lying
Spectrum has lied to all of us, I have been in contact with Northwest Broadcasting and learned that they had offered to leave all programming in place until they were able to reach an agreement, it was Spectrum that pulled the channels and then ran there bullshit were sorry screen telling us they are fighting hard to save us money. Remember all bills just had a franchise fee of 7.00 added for 3,5 and 9 so they really are not that concerned with your cost, they buy low and sell high, they have so many law suites right now, even from our own government. We turned in all TV related boxes and saw many customers receiving bill adjustments for these channel loses, but do not think that they would just offer you that option, you will have to ask. We have found just having cable gives us access to all TV viewing you my desire and at much better prices. You can change that companies name a hundred times it's still the same ole time warner cable!.
                                                                                                                                June 2/18

Im looking at my tickets to the dinner Sunday at 5:00, and it states SPONSORED BY OSWEGO ROTARY CLUB, OSWEGO COUNTY FEDERAL CREDIT UNION, AND PATHFINDER BANK. So why does it cost $16.00 a ticket, and as in last year about $5000 was raised (top 100 free ) so where does all this money go !!!!!!!! If they have all this sponsorship, WHY IS IT $16.00 for baked ziti, meatballs ,salad and roll ???????????
                                                                                                                                June 2/18

I'm not sure how this want a be can wake up every morning and look at himself in the mirror, His approval rate is probably under 20% , Asked any DPW worker with more the 3 years on the job and they'll tell you how bad it is. All the corruption and hiring of friends and the girlfriend running around that's totally clueless. And the Mayor just looks the other way. Unbelievable. His daddy should have spanked his ass years ago , He shows no respect towards anyone except the one who made the big donations. You must be proud parents to have a kid like that. Cheap suits fake smile. Enjoy your one term. The taxpayers know what's going on. Your not fooling anyone. SHAME ON YOU
                                                                                                                                June 2/18

Cable TV
keep internet, get fire sticks ( amazon ) and sign up for Direct TV Now . watch tor tv for $ 30.00 per month. does not carry local channels, must get digital antenna for that ! And if your router is wireless, your tvs must have a fire stick, you will get the same service , but it will only cost you $ 30.00 a month ! And , you get more channels !
                                                                                                                                June 2/18

Spectrum prices solved
Here is what you do.

Walmart and buy a Roku Streaming Stick +. watch it because there are a lot of streaming sticks by roku...should be about $78. It has a voice search which is great.

Get on and create a membership.

Roku is free and w/ the streaming stick + you get 500k movies, and thousands of channels...FREE. Load the Roku and Vudu channels they give free movies each month. Do this in the channel store.

Connect the roku to the back of the tv HDMI port.

Buy YOUTUBE TV. $40 and you get 3,5,9,and fox. It may say you can't when you check you zip code but I get all of them. Take a look at the lineup...even get YES.

You're gonna love it, watch what u want and not repeats all the time. you'll have so much tv you won't believe it.

Take a look at it on you PC.

Becareful if you have a contract with Spectrum...roku has no contracts, neither does You Tube TV.
                                                                                                                                June 2/18







Today's Quote June 1/2018

A committee is a group of the unprepared, appointed by the unwilling to do the unnecessary.
Fred Allen

Spectrum TV Viewing
The consensus around the Oswego NY area is that people are fed up with the fees that Spectrum is charging for what we are getting. With all the money we are paying them for our TV, Internet and Phone lines and they can't find a medium with Northwest Communications to get our Fox (wsyt) back or our WNYS (7) back are totally absurd! My wife and I sat down Saturday night planning to watch a New York Yankees game together only to find out it was to be shown on WSYT Channel 8 which meant we were deprived of watching our favorite team play. At this point we said "well at least we can watch the NASCAR Race together tomorrow night" Oh wait a minute is that on FOX or FS1? Low and behold this to was on FOX WSYT! So to add it all up we couldn't watch the ballgame Saturday Night or could we watch the Race on Sunday Night! Well now it will be pre-season Football followed by the regular season, well I do know one thing we WILL NOT be deprived of us watching our New York Giants as we will give Spectrum exactly two weeks to settle something with Northwest Communications or I will be with either Direct TV or Dish Network and it will be goodbye Spectrum forever! I know of many others who feel the same way. Spectrums rates and fees continue to creep up as their programing continues to deteriorate! I could by a decent car for what I pay them a month. I think every subscriber should get a price reduction for what we have lost for the last several months. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH SPECTRUM AND WERE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT MUCH LONGER!
                                                                                                                                June 1/18

Anything that involves a dish is going to be affected by rain, snow, sleet even heavy clouds. I would consider something like this with a signal amplifier and maybe a rotor. If you buy from Walmart directly you can always bring it back if you do not like it.

There are also videos on You Tube showing how to make your own.

Oswego Health
Rumor has it Oswego Health is buying St. Luke’s, supposed to be top secret.
                                                                                                                                June 1/18

How nice now there will be no nursing home in the city that can be trusted with your loved ones.

Oswego Voting
So, Oswego could have a Mayor that pays fed, state, s.s. ( fica ) payroll tax , but does not pay School tax, county tax, city tax, water/sewer tax, dumpster fee, demo fee, any building permit fee ( lives with parents, no worries on his part ), heck, i bet the dog is under the parent’s name address ! Maybe the vehicle that he drives is owned by his parents !
Sounds like the parents should be in city hall, unless kells is called, cousin tom !
                                                                                                                                June 1/18





Today's Quote May 23/2018

Self-preservation is the first law of nature.
Samuel Butler

Landmark lawsuit claims Monsanto hid cancer danger of weedkiller for decades

The city of Oswego, NY used the weed killer known as ROUNDUP on all of its parks and public areas despite warnings of its link to serious cancers.
If you or someone you know developed non-Hodgkins Lymphoma or Multiple Myeloma after using public parks, buildings or other public areas in the City of Oswego, NY you should contact the Miller Law Firm.

The Miller Firm, LLC
The Sherman Building
108 Railroad Avenue
Orange, VA 22960
Toll free: 800-882-2525
Phone: 540-672-4224
Fax: 540-672-3055
                                                                                              May 23/18

Hard Cold Facts
The hard cold fact is the city of OZ is deeply corrupt and Gary Thibodeau is innocent, be thankful this did not happen to you or your family.
As far as Stitson, he calls the officials out and informs you in his statement that he testified to his time of arrival of 7:41 am and did not budge on this,
Officer Sumner Hall attempted to get Stitson to change his time and he refused. He also tells you that his memory was not vague but Heidi's own sisters was.
Stitson's testimony should have destroyed the prosecutors case in 1995, but the jury obviously did not pay close attention to the time line. You should question the timeline
100 percent seeing as Gram Duell told reporters the clock in the store was still off and Heidi had not changed the time, she is quoted as to saying "time stood still for Heidi."
Stitson also tells you he back tracked his steps and the clocks were both broke, the wall and the register. How, funny it is only the store owner and the on scene officer could
match his watch up with both the wall clock and the cash register, the Duell family had so much involvement in the after affects of the investigation it isn't funny. THEY ALSO
Keep in mind Bohrer said Matt Duell was said to be sexually harassing Heidi to the point of rape. Here is a direct quote from Bohrer. "Organized crime is nothing more than organized
individuals, organizing themselves with other organized individuals for the purpose of getting away with it. With only one intention in mind to get it all to ones self (all for one and one for all).
It's a mentality or a genetic thing in common with each of these individuals. I for one call it evil." Think about that for a minute and then take a pen and write down every corrupt official you can
think of, all their dirty deeds and then draw a line to each one who connects to another and you'll start to see the pattern. This is to Bohrer I FOR ONE CALL YOUR ASS EVIL AS HELL!!! It is your
mentality, your genetics that set you aside from the rest of your organized goons, you sir are one hell of a demon that has walked among us all for years, unnoticed, that is one scary ass thought. I can
only imagine what else you have done. Gary's case is simply organized criminals, who organized themselves and pulled off the crime of the century. Bohrer is right.
                                                                                                                                May 23/18

Broken time
It's not that Stitsons time was off. You are missing a key piece. 2 seperate people including stitson and duell's own grandmother admitted the store times their register and clock was BROKEN. Toss away the confirmation from Duell and Curtis matching the times up, what's left 2 witnesses who confirm they were broken. You are taking the word of Kris Duell that the times matched Curtis watch. Now seeing as she's hid info for over 20 years. Think about why she lied about the times. Because she had something huge to HIDE. She lied, so did Curtis. They were and are the ONLY 2 who could seem to match Curtis watch to a broken cash register and the wall clock in which case Stitson tells you it was BROKEN. Gram Duell tells you the store clock was never changed. So explain how two others could confirm something that others are debunking? Don't take Kris Duells word, it's obvious she did not notify anyone back then she found Heidi CI file, after that she later hired Heidi all coincidence or a set up? I'd say organized crime, organizing all for one, one for all. Simple fix to your confusion with Stitson. You'll also notice the original last check out time 716 am was crossed off 742 was written beside it. Its simple. Gram Duell nor Stitson lied. But Kris Duell did. Why wouldn't Stitson bend to fit the sheriff's fudge time line or Gram Duell? But Kris did. Because 2 aren't in on it, the other one is. Kris lied, it's impossible Curtis watch matched either the cash register or the store wall clock. I can not stress it enough the liars Kris Duell and officer Curtis.
                                                                                                                                May 23/18

Reply from Death of Common Sense
Right on, you are right on. What ppl fail to see in this is the fact that Oakes ( imo ) allegedly is covering for what Dodd did as the DA in the original case. Anyone think Dodd won't take Oakes down if it gets that far...I do. Oakes was talked to (imo) and has essentially hung himself in a new trial or in a election...and guess what Oakes the OC Legislator doesn't care about you...hope you taped those conversations you may have had with anyone. " I really have my doubts about the INTEGRITY of the OCSD in this investigation". Isn't that what you said to Lisa...BEFORE you for some "reason" switched sides, opinions and then went after Gary. Come on, this is so obvious it's a joke.

You are right, this case makes no sense, time lines don't fit, Stinson HAD to see something ( this is an easy one ) Lisa P. will tear him apart, Swenkowski IS GT's best alibi.

I STATED A LONG TIME AGO TO "SPACECUBE" ON THE BLOG THAT THERE ARE A LOT MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED THAN WE CAN IMAGINE...THAT WAS BACK IN 2014...AND IT'S COMING TOGETHER. Oakes slid out because Lisa was prevented by King from asking for witnesses and the other unfair things he did in this court.

Yes it does seem like the tape was tampered with, other ppl should have been there if the time line is correct, the snitches and the fact that Heidi was gone but cashed out Richard is a big one.

Your entire statement that you replied to me is the truth, and we all know it. I don't think John Gott's lawyer could convince a jury of any thing different. Oakes covering for Dodd may coat him a prison sentence and Dodd will deny and walk away.

The SWISS CHEESE comment was obvious the first time I read this case in 2014. There are so many mistakes that if they get a new trial, there are going to be a lot of ppl going to prison.

Did they do enough for the appeals court to grant them a new opinion, yes in law maybe not.

God please give Gary, Lisa and Randi another fair shot as this case is so corrupt with so many mistakes and controversial elements that the whole machine will come apart.

Here's to hoping you guys go to prison. If not I hope your guilt eats you up everyday for the rest of your lives. Just think of what people are thinking about you as you finish your lives, go about your business and hopefully rejected by the voters.

PS: Dodd is not your friend in this...wake up.
                                                                                                                                May 23/18

IF THE DUELLS HAD NOTHING TO DO WIH THE KIDNAPPING OF HEIDI ALLEN, WHY WOULD THEY NOT ADMITT THE REGISTER WAS BROKEN, THE CLOCK IN THE STORE WAS NOT RIGHT AND THE FACT KRIS DUELL FOUND HEIDI CONFIDENTIAL CARD? GREGORY J-OAKES -where is Duells lie detector test? Why is it Kris Duell was anywhere near the search maps and directing the search parties? I'd say their hands were dirty then and even dirtier now.
                                                                                                                                May 23/18




Today's Quote May 22/2018

When you dominate other people's emotions, the time has to come when you will have to pay, and heavily, for that privilege. Ethel Waters
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the time has to come when you will have to pay, and heavily, for that privilege.

Ethel Waters


Re: Death of Common Sense
Yes, Stinson did testify at Gary's trial.

He literally saw nothing about the kidnapping. Didn't see Heidi, didn't see Richard or his van, didn't see any money on the counter when he got there (in contradiction to Lisa B's book-the truth about that is in the transcripts and per his statement in Lisa P's filing after he read Lisa's book). He didn't see Mr. Swenszkowski even though they both stated to police that they were at the D&W at 7:41am. Besides what Oakes filed in his Statement of Facts for the Hearing which was fairly accurate of Stinson's testimony, Mr Stinson testified that he did not check the basement for the missing clerk. Curtis checks the basement after his arrival. Testified that the only doors unlocked were those used by customers which means the back, outside basement door was locked and the double door and single door in the front were unlocked. Contrary to what Oakes is trying to claim in the court of law. This seems to be among the reasons he's giving for not believing that Tonya was given a confession by Steen. His 'fact' about the doors is incorrect vs the trial testimony.

Interesting to note that if the inmates truly heard an accurate "confession" from Gary then there should have been other customers who reported the store unattended before 7:45am by Mr. Stinson. They testified that Gary told them that he and his brother took Heidi from the store, approximately 15 minutes one way, away from the store, Richard brought her back, left but then returned to buy his cigarettes but she was already gone. The inmates testimony was hogwash as 1) No one believes Heidi would leave (willingly) the store unattended to simply "talk" to someone and 2) There was a purchase for 2 packs of generic cigarettes on the cash register tape. Surely may have made a difference if Mrs. Duell had testified about all 15 or so transactions that morning instead of just the last 3 or 4 that a competent investigator could have compared to the witness statements.

Look at the DA's Timeline...First notice no mention of the register being "turned on" at 4:06am as Mrs. Duell testified. Heidi and Brett's arrival time should have been 5:06am with DST?? DA's time of arrival is 5:55am after DST so should have been 4:55am turn on?? Why the 49 minute discrepancy?
Next notice the disinterested witness who didn't know Richard, recognized the van from sight and sound, saw it go by his residence at approximately 7:15am and go back by within a half hour later. Should have only taken minutes?? That would make Richards cash out time many minutes before 7:42am?? Even considering if he did kidnap Heidi?? That witness did not notice any speeding or erratic driving. Certainly not going by his residence twice to "fit" the inmates testimony.
Next-Look at 8-8:30-Mr. Neville Sr. claims to have seen Richards van at Gary's but the exact same time, Richards neighbor sees Richards van at his own house...
Another thing to look at is 6:35am-Darlene Upcraft sees a rusty white van at the D&W. So does that mean it was Richards or some one elses????? Well, assuming the inmates were correct, it would have to be Richards, but how would that fit with the transactions or no one reporting Heidi not being there?? We KNOW from the police notes that Oakes filed that there were in fact transactions very shortly after 6:35am. Mrs. Duell's mother, co-owner, for one. So what are the possibilities about Mrs. Upcraft? 1) the time as per Oakes is wrong 2)There was another rusty white van at the D&W that morning.
Notice all the activity around 7:40am at the D&W-Mr. Wiltse makes purchase, Mr. Swenszkowski arrives and makes a purchase, Richard (supposedly arrives and makes a purchase), Mr. Stinson is there and looks in the store for a missing clerk, other customers arrive and minutes later flags Curtis. DOESN"T MAKE SENSE.

I know, I know, none of the Defense questioning or witnesses were believed by the jurors that's why Gary was convicted.

Circumstantial case my ...What about this timeline drivel, Mr. Oakes, makes LE 99.9% sure it was Richard and Gary that kidnapped Heidi? Just curious if the 99.9% has been downgraded? "No link between Gary and Heidi" per the FBI that detailed their surveillance efforts and performed the forensic testing. If Dodd had a truly, just circumstantial case then why was the brother who actually admitted to being at the store that morning found Not Guilty?? Why was there no human bones in the furnace or soil debris, or in Richards van or the carpet that was removed? Simply, Swiss Cheese case. Frankly, a Swiss Cheese conviction is not Justice!!

Yes, Death, you, I, any one of us could win against the DA but for the psychological games they played with this case...Prosecutorial misconduct, massaging witnesses, incompetent investigation...A jury of peers from the same small community where terrifying things like a young girl disappearing doesn't happen!! The timeline is wrong and so is the transaction tape from the register....The one piece of supposed factual time and that register tape doesn't fit. Boy, would I love to know if Mrs. Duell testified to the ENTIRE transaction tape in Richards trial.

The defense for Steen not being culpable is simply repulsive. Likewise is the defense of Bohrer and Breckenridge's possible involvement know as early as 1994. Do your job and stop discounting everything that doesn't point to Gary. LE has received many leads about others' involvement since as early as 2000 in this open missing persons case. There have got to be some LE who aren't as dumb as a box of rocks and want to see justice served!!



                                                                                                                                 May 22/18

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
The Death of C.S. and the corruption of an investigation that led to an innocent man's life ruined.

I don't know as I have not read the trial transcript but would love to know if Stinson testified at Gary's trial. We know Bivens did ( kind of ) but did they both see the same men, van, girl etc.? That should have made two witnesses for the DA. But if Stinson didn't, why not? His story doesn't make sense to me ( jmo ) but a conflicting testimony by him would have thrown a monkey wrench into Dodd's case.

If Stinson did testify, I offer my apology but would still like to know what he said under oath...if that even counts in this court filled with kangaroos. Sorry but I have been over this 100 times and I just cannot get it thru my thick head how your story of that morning makes any sense.

I certainly hope ( like a lot of ppl ) that DA Oakes gets his chance to win this case. I think he will delay as long as possible instead of a speedy trial so that he can PROVE Gary is guilty. Only problems I see are: no one saw him there, Stinson's testimony will sink the prosecution and get Stinson convicted in a later court...prison..yuck. Better come clean because they are going to throw you under the bus. Descriptions by Bivens does not match either brother, as they were both smaller than Heidi ( a live, accurate comparison of 3 people ).
And what about Swenkowski's testimony, he said he held the door for Richard and watched him get into his van ALONE..I REPEAT< ALONE and drive away. No Heidi, no Gary.

It will be proven by a lawyer that Heidi was signed to be a CI, even if she wasn't used as per the OCSD members. Except one thing Mr. Oakes one deputy said he was there when she was signed to be a CI. How you gonna get around that one? Then there are the ppl she told she was doing it.

Not a lawyer but why did Jenn's statement be branded HERE SAY if the suspects told her that Heidi was in the van at her house that Jenn said she never lived at??

I am not a lawyer but other than the technicalities of law, I really believe I could convince a jury that it was impossible for this crime to happen the way they said it did. He was convicted on " they must have had something or they wouldn't have gotten this far"..per a original jury member. If they had something, what was it? Wasn't an eye witness to seeing the bros. take her. Jenn's interrogation's are full of lies, erased phone messages and then she her self admitted that she did know what happened. But in the paper weeks ago, Okaes said her testimony can't be believed. Then why set up a taped phone call, interrogate her, give her a poly that she failed, caught in lie after lie about where she lived, told them.."after 20 years I still have to tell you that there were 2 vans?" How could the OCSD investigators and Oakes just ignore this statement? But believed her when she said that she lied on the phone call...sure knew a lot for someone that made it all up.

Face it Jenn some one got to you. You got scared and the DA gave you immunity even though he said you couldn't be believed?????

Do you see Mr. Oakes why I say I could convince a jury that Gary is innocent....but I would not be allowed to convict any one that may have been involved in a cover up....nope. THAT'S GONNA BE THE FBI'S PICNIC.
                                                                                                                                 May 20-21/18


Mr. Christopher Bivens
Too bad Judge Clary didn’t let the Defense question him about the car accident he had in October 1993 because then “We the People” may have learned if it was a DWI that Judge McCarthy represented Bivens for that caused Judge McCarthy to recuse himself from hearing Gary’s case.
After all “WE” have learned over the past 5 years about many of the prosecution witnesses, some still believe the witnesses were/are credible? Simply amazing!! Bet Oakes couldn’t convince a jury now that they are credible.
Reply about Mr. Neville-
If one were to have refreshed their memory of the ENTIRE trial testimony from Mr. Neville and Jr., they would have recalled that there was question as to whether Mr. or Jr. was the one that went to the gas station the morning of April 3, 1994. Fahey was prepared to call a witness who was told by Jr. that it was he (Jr.) that went to the store and not Mr. Neville. Why would they lie about who went to the store? Was it because Jr. was in some legal trouble at the time?
Every other neighbor of Gary that testified could not identify a van that they supposedly saw at Gary’s the morning of April 3, 1994 but also testified that they had seen Richards van many times previously at Gary’s. So why is that? Ms. Link did not identify Richards van at Gary’s until a couple months before Gary’s trial. Speaking of Bivens, hmmm, the Cowen’s who were Gary’s neighbor knew that Bivens was going to be testifying before the Grand Jury against Gary in regards to Heidi’s disappearance. “It’s a small world after all.” Wasn’t Mr. Cowen the one who was making disparaging remarks about Gary to another neighbor?
Thank you “Manna from Heaven”. So, Wheeler, Yerdon, VanPatten, Dodd, Todd, Nellis, any LE for that matter…how did you feel about Gary when you found out he had assault on a police officer in his history? Not too many people know about that because it wasn’t admitted during trial but I bet that would cause LE to have tunnel vision and 99.9% sure of their guilt without evidence that even tied both brothers to the disappearance.
To all the dummies who keep trying to say that Gary was some big drug dealer, you do know that the FBI was surveilling the Thibodeau’s in April 1994? Just look in Oakes filing for the Hearing to see the details (which can easily be posted if you’re skeptical). What was the FBI’s testimony about Gary or Oswego County Sheriff’s testimony of evidence? Follow the bouncy ball, dummy dumkins. Also, dummy dumkins, how do you think LE knew that Richard washed his van at the car wash on April 28 or that Gary was helping at the Nelsons’? Surely, if Gary was some big time drug dealer he would have gotten caught going down state or to another state?
What was one of the questions Dodd asked the prospective jurors about a kidnapping vehicle? Answer: they wouldn’t still be driving it around. Bet those jurors were disqualified by Dodd because their answer didn’t fit his narrative!!

*Too bad Oakes didn’t accidentally file the notes from any photo lineup given to Bivens before Richard’s photo and Gary’s photo was plastered in the news*
Praying to see Justice in my lifetime for Heidi’s and Gary’s families. And that is just speaking of this case, not mentioning the other sheisty happenings in OZ.
                                                                                                                                 May 19/18

Let's just assume the Sheriffs are liars. The paperwork proves it. Two days after Heidi vanishes they hault all searches claiming there was no crime scene and that she may have hopped a plane. Out of the blue there's a crime scene, two suspects with no link to the crime. It's called being rail roaded all on lies. Bobby Wheeler has explaining to do. He is the main reason this case went in the direction it has. Sad thing is, I'm sure there are some good sheriff's, issue is the good ol boys from 94. But in reality you can not feel sorry for any officer knowing all that's been known and doing nothing right to fix it. One can pray Oakes is disqualified and faces trouble. He should be arrested. What he has done with the information he has been given is inhumane and down right disgusting. I've spoken to several officers who think he deserves nothing less than an arrest for obstruction of justice. Hearing Wescott says Oswego is out to get her. If she thinks that. Everyone must be doing something right. She's lucky she hasn't been tared and feathered. She would deserve nothing less. And Rogers out in Rome threatening his gf, to kill her LOL go figure right. Any one seen the scumbag Bohrer? Keep up the good work people of OZ. Proud to know Oswego has citizens with integrity. That are governed by jack asses with no dignity.
                                                                                                                                 May 14/18


Oswego County ADA accused of driving drunk, leaving crash scene resigns



Today's Quote May 11/2018

Music can change the world because it can change people.

Something strikes me as odd on that day that I can't quite articulate.
Mike Bohrer was questioned by LE about his brother, John, How was it possible that LE knew then that John had a warrant for Wisconsin but they couldn't find Mike's conviction of disorderly conduct in 1981 of trying to force a young female into a vehicle?

Look at the date of the police report where John had a V&T in Oswego County. That was about 2 months after the CI was lost and found in the D&W parking lot.

Secondly, April 14 was the same day Wheeler "questioned" Dan Barney for whom police notes show as "probably suspect".

Gary became prime suspect the very next day.




                                                                                                                                  May 11/18

When we purchased our home here in the city we made changes in the front of the house to paint unpainted post and porch area added scrubs and flower beds, looks great we were proud to be part of improving our neighborhood, WHAT A MISTAKE!!!!!!!!!! just the improvements above raised our assessment 9000 dollars. it said our taxes may not go up, but I'm pretty sure that number is used to determine other taxes. We will now remove our plantings and let the paint go and the porch rot, we have even considered removing the siding on the front and side of our home to lower our cost to live here.
                                                                                                                                 May 7-8/18


personal plea to Mike Bohrer
Damm man. If you didn't really have anything to do with Heidi Allen's disappearance or improper disposal of her remains, I HIGHLY suggest you go to some authority (other than Oswego County) and tell what really happened because, damm, you appear FAR more guilty than Gary Thidodeau ever was. Right now, I'm 90% convinced that you, sir, are guilty and if you were to face charges, at some point when the courts realize the egregious mistake by the investigators, former ADA that prosecuted and current DA, I can pretty much guarantee that if you choose the hard way and face legal accountability, the only support you will have is from those also involved and a lawyer. Give Heidi's family the answer that you would want had she been your daughter. Someone will listen to you.

Just want you to come clean!!
                                                                                                                            May 1/18

School Board Election May 15, 2018
It is now 16 days before, you, as a resident of the Oswego City School District, will cast your vote to place two people on the board. Just remember that the two people who presently hold those seats supported spending $60,000,000 foolishly on a project that wasn't needed. They also reinstated all the positions they eliminated in their B.S. lying attempt to reduce the budget. Although the entire board should all be removed, we can only take out the ones that presently hold those seats and are up this year.
They are spending our money like drunken sailors and it is important that we put reasonable, budget minded, non-followers, to the board for the next three years. We can not sustain the level of school taxes this board has shoved up or noses. Lets start by removing the two current seats that are up this year and do the same thing for the two elections until they have all been removed. This board must be removed and if the new people put in are not willing to reduce the budget, reduce the over bloated number of teachers, reduce the benefits, and get back to what a school is for, then vote them out as well.
This can only be accomplished if you get out in force and vote!
                                                                                                                            May 1/18

Re: Unbelievable
Greg should ask Purdy why she has 2 seperate mailing addresses on Rice Road.

Re: Unbelievable
Darcy lease December 1992. Not 1993 as Greg stated. Darcy has 2 seperate addresses on Rice Road parish new York. Must be she assumed no one would find the second one. 7271 Rice Road which is an empty lot would that explain her rice road mailings? Greg should ask her why she never let anyone know about her other address. Was it really Walter living in a camper or Darcy seeing as she stated they had no place to go in May of 1993. It's clear and obvious the landlord made it public information. He NEVER lived with any of his tenants. Darcy has explaining to do. Her and her ex both have 2 rice road addresses. Darcy' s emails circulate around racing. Maybe she needs to explain herself a little more. Like what the pole is on her receipt. Couldn't be a light pole to an empty piece of property where maybe there was a camper parked, that not Walter was living in but her and her former relation Rathbun? Can you say Perjury Darcy?


 read it. Greg did lie. It was not 93 she had the 5 month lease for. It's in evidence it was December of 92. She even testified 92.

Greg should ask her if her n her old man back then were the ones living in the camper at the end of rice road. Where they put in a telephone pole for power. 1500 pole on her receipt. In 90's cost 1500 for a light pole to produce power. Here's her other address. Walter rented that place only 6 month temporary lease. He would use it during the summer when he came home from vacation. She's full of it. Linked to the racing world. Think about who else is linked to the racing world. MURTAGH




                                                                                                                            May 1/18

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Let's just look at common sense in this case. Can anyone really believe the OCSD did the best they could when they ignored an over whelming amount of loose ends. This is beyond criminal. They had a vast amount of leads: Stinson, Bivens, Bohere, Jenn Wescott, the airport, Swenkowski, Richard's van, Gary's property, taped phone call ( of course denied as not credible ). Why did you do it then? Why bring Tonya up here and then discredit make your cover up stronger. No poly for Tonya? Jenn failed hers and then told you wht you needed to here. 2 vans...she told you there were 2 vans and you ignored this? Why? Don't answer, the public is sick of your lies. Are you not to investigate leads???? Anyone in LE would have pushed JW harder. Were you afraid she was going to spill the beans so much that you and the famous 3 were going down. LIKE THE MAN IN OSWEGO COURT SAID IN 2014.." WHO DO YOU THINK YOU'RE KIDDING OSWEGO." He also said "we" could have solved this is 2 weeks. I wonder who "WE" are. The FBI? I ask anyone can you actually read this crime and not believe there is a cover up? This case is so weak the Oakes, if he has to go to trial and stall in hope that Gary passes away. Because you don't have a shred of evidence to win this case. Lisa will destroy you and all involved in this. A person told his brother that back in those days that 2 deputies stopped him, found some coke, took the coke and let him go. Meanwhile back at the airport in the early morning hours comes a plane, seeking the county issued vehicles that are there waiting for it. Just give Gary a chance and you'll see what this case is made of. Where's the proof, where's Stinson, who saw Gary there. You couldn't even convict Richard who admitted to being there. How many kidnappers call and tell them they were there after they did commit the crime. Please, your lies are laughable.
                                                                                                                            May 1/18

Oakes lying again.
"According to Tonya Priest he came in the back door." Greg do you ever get tired of lying? Where in her statement does it ever say the back door? Because what it says is "side door and he grabbed her from behind the counter" do you not ever think before you speak? What law allows you to add to actual statements? Here's the statement. The back doors on the other side of the building and that's why you made that up, you bold faced lied to the appeals judges. Do you not think they'll catch that fabrication on your part? Greg, Lisa is dead on. She did not cherry pick Bohrer. Nor did the FBI IN 1995 when they labeled him a person of interest. But your department did cherry pick Gary Thibodeau.

                                                                                                                            April 28-29/18

Heidi Allen
Heidi Allen's sister said a court case won't help them find her sister? Neither has accusing, arresting, trying and convicting a person without physical evidence he committed the crime. Maybe the wrong guy is being held accountable? Did you really think those 3 guys would admit in a court of law to telling people that they did tell others they were involved? No care in the world that the 3 plead the 5th during testimony and then answered because they were given immunity for those questions?

So let me get this straight, if someone is given immunity for their testimony they are presumed to be giving Truthful testimony? Just curious because Sharon was given immunity but the jurors didn't believe anyhow and Jennifer was given immunity, even though she was a convicted liar, but her testimony is believed? Boy, were the jurors wrong about Sharon! Now THAT is a double-standard! I guess it depends for which side the person is "for" on whether their immunity testimony is believed. So what people are saying is that Jennifer is believed when she claims to have told lies but not believed during the unknown to her police wiretapped call nor believed to have lied about the lie detector questions that showed deception?

Why is it so hard to wrap your head around that Steen, Bohrer and Breckenridge may have taken Heidi and did what they told others and then one or two of them removed Heidi's remains from the cabin floorboards and then the remains were shipped to Canada? Bohrer may have been......thought about moving the remains. They certainly had "opportunity" to remove them. The guy who testified for the prosecution to building a "fort" when he was a teenager said on the stand that part of the floor was concrete and part wood.

*sarcasm* I thin k the community member in 1994 that publicly said they thought Heidi was dead and would never be found is the true kidnapper. How would he/she have known that so early on in the investigation?

Duh, Oakes, it isn't very difficult to wrap your head around how Gary said things to the inmates about Heidi's disappearance when he was calling home, having news articles read to him, the inmates eavesdropping his phone calls and then asking him questions. You buds, Wheeler and Yerdon, helped fill in the rest. A little good "coaching" from Dodd and there you go!! Wrongful case study for future generations. You do know that Heidi's disappearance was in the news daily for months after the disappearance AND it was LE that the news was getting most of the quotes from. That was until they had a gag order placed on them. Do tell WHY law enjokement had a gag order placed against them.
                                                                                                                            April 28-29/18

Re: Lisa Buske
Auntie says Heidi was a bad girl. Or is auntie lying?


New light shed on a mystery in 1994 Heidi Allen kidnapping

"Among the evidence that Allen worked as an informant came from her own family. Her aunt, Martha Sturtz, told sheriff's investigators in a recorded interview last year that Allen started providing information to sheriff's investigators after she got into trouble at the age of 15.

Sheriff's deputies had shown up at a drinking party Allen was attending, Sturtz said. Allen had left a child she was babysitting alone in a car, and was in trouble with the police, Sturtz said.

Sturtz' husband, Russell Sturtz, contacted the sheriff's office about having Allen provide information to them in exchange for Allen facing only a person-in-need-of-supervision petition in family court instead of more serious charges, Martha Sturtz told investigators."
                                                                                                                            April 28-29/18

Another lie.
Replay Greg's ten minutes of fame from appeals. He said Darcy supplied a 93 lease from December. Wrong Greg. Straight from Purdy mouth during testimony. "
Purdy signed a lease to rent the trailer from Deb Vecchio in December 1992 for five months, Purdy said. Vecchio's father, Walter Rice, owned the trailer and property."
                                                                                                                            April 28-29/18

Re: Greg Oakes performance at the Court of Appeals April 26 2018
From the OCSD's own files it says Jenn lived on Rice Road
Nothing that I know of was said about Purdy's wedding shower was at that address and mailing something from Parish means nothing.
The only mail I heard mentioned was some mail order catalog. Purdy's wedding certificate from the church didn’t say her address.
Oakes tried to say that James Steen told Tonya Priest, that Heidi was taken out the back door. Not true! Look at my picture below of the "back Door"
What was said was the side door. Two doors on the front side of the D&W, see my picture below.
Oakes also stated that nothing was out of place at the D&W after Heidi went missing, he even said not even a newspaper was out of place, wrong again Greg, OCSD even took a picture of the newspaper on the floor the day of the "kidnapping".
By the way Oakes, Darcy Purdy being a legal secretary in law office does nothing to add to her credibility, she's been proven to be a liar, many times over.


                                                                                                                            April 28-29/18

Lisa Buske
Did Lisa thake the bus to the Appeals Court in Albany or did she drive the new car she bought with the money form the Heidi Allen Center?????????????
                                                                                                                            April 28-29/18

Barlows Drug Dealers
Christman worked for Jim Bell but that is no surprise since so many of Bells former employees had drug related history. Can anyone say Dolittle he was another one that worked for Bell when he wasn’t screwing the wife and daughter of one of the city cops. At the time he was one of the biggest dealers in the city. He must have left town or Barlow would have made him a department head by now.
                                                                                                                             April 27/18

Answer question Lisa
I about dropped my coffee this morning reading that. How many more people Lisa have to come forward before you accept one of them? Lisa yes where is the reward money? Many know where it went, but many are sure you'll never answer that. Yes why did you lie about your sister? You make no sense none. You actually looked like a fool in the last article. Let's be frank Lisa is you really believed Gary Thibodeau was guilty you wouldn't be saying atleast one person out there knows.
                                                                                                                             April 27/18

Barlow and background check!
Love how Barlow said they did the proper background check on the two DPW workers. Smith worked for the City a couple years ago and was fired and went to rehab! What is the big deal with Kells at the McCrobie building it is a City owned building so what is the problem with him being their?
                                                                                                                             April 27/18

DPW arrests
You are right Mayor. The tax payers do not deserve this. We do not deserve someone like Tom Kells in charge of the DPW. We do not deserve the black eye the inexperienced landlord has put on this city. We do not deserve the hiring of his cronies to do his dirty work. Putting non qualified people such as C.M and E. B. in key positions with no experience. It's true,a new Dock Master? What Marine experience does Broadwell's wife bring? Below is a general description of the job qualifications of a Dock Master taken from a job search website.
A dockmaster should have general seamanship knowledge that includes boating right-of-way rules, basic navigation and inshore and offshore mooring techniques. This person must also have a solid understanding of marina operations. She could hold a degree in marine management or certifications, such as the Certified Marine Manager (CMM) or a Marina Operations Certificate.
Kells's hiring practise is none other than who he likes. Experience and meeting certain skill and job requirements are not in his vocabulary and putting his hand picked buddies in key positions only spells disaster.
So yes, the tax payers do not deserve what you are letting happen under your watch Mayor. You can sugar coat and beautify the city all you want. It's what you are letting go on behind closed doors is what will bring this city down.
                                                                                                                             April 27/18


Gary Thibodeau
Originally scheduled for ten minutes each. Ten for Lisa and ten for Joakes. Well..well..appeals just bumped them up to the max of 30 minutes each. Think you can keep your story straight Greg getting drilled with questions you can't answer. Many of us doubt it.
                                                                                                                             April 26/18

Death to common sense reply
You have that wrong Jenns son pushed the button the night she was taped. Read the transcript. Jennifer clearly says I was trying to get my phone from my son. It's on page one. No one ever said the night before. If you read the entire transcript she explains her other son had her phone til late the night prior as he went to a school dance.
                                                                                                                             April 26/18

Re: Dealing from a City Truck
Going start off with people writing into this site tried telling you so....

Their were two busted. One was none other than Kells's girlfriends brother. How you going to brush this one off Kells? Barlow? So why has the drug testing stopped at the DPW? It will be in the paper soon enough. Proof of the dealings with kells and company. How many more of HIS hires are dealing/using? Oh guess there is a new "Dock Master" hired. Guess who? Hint, it's the wife of a local legislator and the owner of two hotels on the river.....there is no corruption in city hall or the dpw now is there? All of his hires need to pee in a cup! Him included! Karma is beginning!
                                                                                                                             April 26/18

Two Oswego DPW workers accused of having drugs while on the job

                                                                                                                             April 26/18

Dealing From A City Truck
Its not like they had kilos of the stuff and they weren’t dealing just making deliveries and pickups for there bosses in City Hall and the DPW.
                                                                                                                             April 26/18

Drugs in City Vehicles
Good to see that Kell's is hiring highly quality people in the DPW that are using city trucks as their delivery system to their drug customers. Seems there should be mandatory drug testing for these new hires. Heard it was Kell's girlfriend's brother. Funny how she was promoted to Kell's right hand girl, was given a new pick-up truck to wonder around the city in, and then Kell's hired her drug head brother.
The DPW used to be a highly revered and trusted department that was excellent at their jobs, and since Kell's and Barlow showed up, this department is in the shitter, as is the city. Sad to see a very efficient city department go to hell because of the wrong people being put in positions of power. Barlow is doing the same thing with the purchasing department...eliminating a high quality employee like Mike Riley, to let Onondaga County take over the Purchasing function for the city of Oswego, is a huge mistake.
Interesting that Kell's girlfriend has right hand girl riding around in the new city pick-up truck with her? Someone said she had some connection to S Broadwell??? Go figure.
                                                                                                                             April 26/18

“Barlow said this type of behavior does not reflect the work ethic of the over 60 employees with the DPW.”
Correct mayor little willey.

It only reflects the dpw workers you hired.
                                                                                                                             April 26/18

Two guys get busted for a small amount of crack and some pills big deal.
They should take a drug sniffing dog to Barlows and Kells office and see what they find there.
                                                                                                                             April 26/18

DPW arrests
I wonder how this will be swept under the Barlow/Kells blanket. How can they not know he was using? Just look at him. What were they doing at McD's at 10 when break is at 9 :15 or so. Who was monitoring the GPS on this truck or was it one of the trucks that Kells had it removed. Cristmans sister is a big foreman/woman, were they working under her? How long has this been going on? Barlow is just as guilty because he lets Kells do what ever he want, hire whoever HE wants and isn't made to follow procedures. Maybe Kells shouldn't be spending so much time hanging out at the McCrobie building. can't hide forever tommy boy. Karma has dealt her first hand…
                                                                                                                             April 26/18

Follow The Money
From two guys in a truck > Kells > Barlow > Barclay family.
                                                                                                                             April 26/18





Today's Quote April 25/2018

No man thinks there is much ado about nothing when the ado is about himself.
Anthony Trollope

Dealing From A City Truck
Three unmarked cars came into the DPW this morning where a quantity of drugs was found in a city truck. Two of Mayor Billy Barlow’s new hires were arrested.

                                                                                                                             April 25/18

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Let's see what the OCSD FAILED to do:

Did they check Jenn Wescott's phone to see if Jenn's kid did indeed push Tonya's phone button the nite before it was tapped?
Did they check with Bohere, Steen's and Roger's neighbors to see if they heard anything that morning?
Did they check with the manager of the airport after he took action?
Did they stake out the airport for traffic at 4am as reported by the ppl who lived near there?
Did they interview the deputy that said he was there and heard that Heidi was a CI?
Did they follow up ( with the DA at that time ) about a deputy allegedly lying on the witness stand?
Did they question Stinson, Swenkowski and Bivens about seeing or not seeing anyone at the store? This is a big one.
Did they put the brothers in a line up?
Did they push Jenn Westcott in that interrogation or arrest here for knowing about it etc. whatever law there may be?
Did they arrest Jenn after a near confession and admitting to knowing what happened?
Did they follow up after the knew Jenn lied about knowing the "three" and lying about living on a certain road?
Did they follow up on Jenn and Roger's Florida trip even though Jenn said she didn't know him?
Did they take a statement from a person who contacted them about seeing a blue van driving fast etc? No they didn't.
Did they check on the snitches statements to see if they were even true? NOPE!
Did they follow Gary to MA even after they stacked out his house on April 4,5,6? No they did not? But somehow knew he dumped Heidi's body there...but never went there to check.
Did they ask Bivens, Stinson and Swenkowski to take a poly? Swenkowski is an innocent man and did not lie. But they did poly Richard 4 times...(hoping OCSD?)

As I said before this crime was impossible to happen the way they said it did. Nothing makes sense and as trained cops and investigators you have FAILED in this cover up and you know it. Only hope the FBI gets involved. And Moe, retiring won't save you from an investigation..hoping for Statute of Limitations.....not gonna happen. You guys left so many loose ends, mistakes, lies and mis directions.

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO KNOW YOU ARE CLOSE TO GOING TO PRISON? LET'S SEE HOW THICK THAT BLUE LINE IS. If yo don't think that someone involved isn't going to rat on you...think again. First come first served.
                                                                                                                             April 25/18




City Hall Corruption...Follow the Money
The Community Development Office has been moved out of the Conway Building (the police station) and are now renting space at 44E Bridge Street. This building is owned by Pathfinder Bank, and how surprising that Barlow chose that location for Rudick to move the Community Development Department to. Surprise, Scheindiner CEO of the bank, donated $2,400 to Barlows campaign. Rudick also hired Sue Deary's daughter for that department as well; of coarse there is no nepotism involved there. Might want to look at the names of some of the others that are employed there. You would shocked! What is the rent costing us?
In this move, Rental assistance also had to move and is now renting space at 159 Liberty, and is now headed by, now wait for it, Nathan Emmons, Barlows biggest suck-up boy when Nathan was a make-believe councilor. He is now a make-believe legislator. Now, don't try to find 159 Liberty Street because it doesn't really exist, as it is really 154 W Mohawk Street and is owned by Litatro Holdings LLC. Now, who is Litatro Holding LLC? That would be Atom Avery's shell company and Avery olny donated $2,000 to Barlow's campaign. What is the rent on this building?
Corruption in city hall is like a cancer and is spreading. I thought this city was done with corrupt people in political office, but it just keeps gong on and Oswego just keeps electing them. These guys make Gosek look like a saint, and that is saying something. The people of Oswego will keep their heads buried in the sand and when this house of cards falls, they will all say " How could that have happened again"?
                                                                                                                             April 23-24/18

Keith W Lafond MA 11-20-1963 02-16-1995 31.3

BORN: November 20, 1963 - DIED: February 16, 1995 .. Lived for about 31.3 Years

This is the one nicknamed "Chicken", the one hand washes the other person, so they didn't have him come to testify.

James E. McDonald
February 15, 1963 ~ July 8, 2015 (age 52)
James E. McDonald of Winthrop passed away at the Eatpointe Nursing and Rehabilitation Center in Chelsea of July 8, 2015 after a prolonged illness. He was 52 years old. Born in Winthrop he was the beloved son of Catherine (McMann) and Joseph McDonald. A lifelong resident of Winthrop, he was a graduate of Winthrop High School. He was employed for many years as a painter and was a member of the Winthrop Lodge of Elks.

He was the loving father of Mary McDonald of Nashua, New Hampshire, Catherine McDonald and Jamie McDonald both of Manchester, New Hampshire. He was the beloved brother of John McDonald, of Winthrop, Robert McDonald of Connecticut, Thomas McDonald of Nashua, New Hampshire and Joseph McDonald of Winthrop.

Family and friends are cordially invited to attend the visitation from the funeral home on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 from 4:00 to 7:00 PM. A funeral service will be held in the funeral home at 7:00 PM the same evening.


Key witness in Heidi Allen kidnapping changes story about what Thibodeau told him in jail

"For the first time, Baldasaro said in the interview that he got the information about the shovel from another inmate, not Thibodeau, at the Worcester House of Corrections. In the interview with, Baldasaro said he likely heard that from inmate James McDonald.

"I never heard that" from Thibodeau, Baldasaro said. "Jimmy might've been the one who brought up the shovel and I just heard it from Jimmy. I'm pretty sure Jimmy was the one who said something about a shovel."

"That's not what Baldasaro testified to in June 1995. He said he heard about the shovel directly from Thibodeau when Baldasaro asked how Allen had died.

Thibodeau "told me her head had been bashed in with a shovel and she was mutilated," Baldasaro said, according to a transcript of the trial.

By the end of the interview with, Baldasaro insisted that everything he said in the 1995 trial was accurate."




                                                                                                                             April 23-24/18


From what little I read in this statement, a jailhouse felon from a nearby cell does not like Gary based upon the fact that he likes to smoke dope and have kinky sex with his girlfriend who is over the age of consent and from this Don Dodd somehow extrapolates guilt in the Heidi Allen case. At that point in time half the population of Ozwego County, DAs included, were smoking some kind of dope and getting high and having kinky sex with everything (man, woman, child, male and female) from 14-70 year-olds. In this same time period several members of Dodds District Attorneys office were using and selling drugs. They were embezzling from clients and plotting murder. This is not bullshit I have seen proof.







Today's Quote April 22/2018

Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment.
Will Rogers

Oswego Rotting Under Barlow Administration
Has anyone noticed all of the infrastructure improvements under the Barlow administration? The influx of new business and an increased tax base?
Young professionals choosing Oswego as their home? An increase in tourism? (think: 1.5 million dollar cannons on display and then look at the condition of the one in front of city hall now) Transparency and accountability to the resident taxpayers? A HUD inspector who isn't a rubber-stamper for the slumlords that own this town? (He will be held accountable 1st in a court of law when the State investigates the next tenant death in a slumlord dwelling that should have been condemned NOT approved. After he's indicted he'll be Oswego's most famous whistle blower)
Phony property tax valuations and manipulations, either grossly over or undervalued, depending on who owns the property. Way too much graft for this City to finance. Barlow early in his administration made a show of getting "tough" on slumlords (his word) Reality is the slumlords are Billy's best friends forever.
                                                                                                                             April 22/18

City Hall Corruption...Follow the Money
One has to wonder how the proposed condo located at the intersection of West 1st St and Bridge Street (City of Oswego) could be eligible for $700,000 in grant money for Avery? The grant proposals for the money coming from the state and the awards were listed well over a year ago. Avery purchases the old Global Buffet Building a few months ago and is now approved for $700,000 in grant money over night. Could the secret meeting in the Mayors office have anything to do with promises made for that purchase, if grant money approval was given in advance of the purchase? Then, there is the question, who in their right mind would want to live on the busiest and noisiest intersection in the city of Oswego. Where will the parking be and has a parking plan been approved by planning board? Certainly the Planning Board will give their approval regardless if it meets the codes or not. Standard procedure for them
Why don't we just follow the theoretical money trail and let the corruption speak for itself. The following contributions were made to the Barlow campaign and who benefited from them.
Bell...$ the job as head of Code Enforcement, allowing him to ignore building permits for certain people, asbestos inspections and dumping permits in the middle of the city and on certain personal property. Put windows in his car wash without building permit.
Reynolds...$ to keep his job as Assistant City Attorney
Barlow family..$2,400..had thousands of dollars( estimate of $25,000 in labor and materials) in new sidewalks and new driveway apron. Did this in cahoots with Gosek, 5th ward Councilor.
Scheindiner..$2,000..One might want to inquire where Avery got his loan?
Broadwell...$1,500..Got grant for $1,000,000 for water slide.
Kells...$5,000..Got job as DPW Commissioner, $75,000 plus Benefits, selling city lumber illegally, removing city property which he thinks it is his, hired son for mowing contract, hired girlfriend and gave her new city truck to drive and not following city policy on other much more on this guy to come.
Avery..$1,000...needs no explanation...
Pauldine...$5,000..Got the old Cahill Building for much less than value, then got $1,000,000 grant for the Cahill Bld and that dump on the corner of W Bridge. Was in cahoots with Gosek Sr.and Turner when they gave him a contract for $10,000 a year of taxpayers money to use the hallway in his Canal Commons. Now he has the old YMCA Bld and his buddy Bell is turning a blind eye as head of code enforcement regarding the illegal activities on that building.
Caraccioli...$500...Got City Attorney Job, Barlow had it made full time with a raise and full benefits, Caraccioli is actually running the city as little boy Barlow doesn't have a clue. There is more to this saga, but for a latter date.
Corradino...$198...Barlow pushed to have him made council president...
Stepien...$750...Got contract for the city web site with his group called Step One Creative LLC.. he used to work for Schiediner at the bank.... Also got contract with Port throuh this contact. gets thousands a year on this deal.
Holman...$250....was appointed by or. Barlow to be chair of the City Ethics Board...seems a bit unethical.
As we move along looking at the corruption of this city, the next look will be at the Community Development Department and the people who are working there. Nepotism and political greed and the extraordinary cost of that department, along with the questionable grants and what they are used for. Also a look at the discrimination coming from the Section 8 Rental assistance program.
More to come......
                                                                                                                             April 22/18

Lame Duck Drug Story!!
I was just going over Wescott's interrogations and her lie detector video. I agree the lame story about drugs with the Thibodeau's, is useless, after watching her video and she blames the Thibodeau's about where she was buying her drugs she says even after Thibodeau was interrogated she continued to buy drugs off him, right Wescott, seeing as they were staking out Gary's home the night Heidi vanished and if any one has any knowledge of any interrogation with Gary Thibodeau post it here, because there from the records does not seem to be one. I wonder how she bought drugs all the way through when he was in Massachusetts the entire summer of 1994. Also I would love for her to explain if he was such a monstrous drug dealer, why is it when his property was searched on two separate occasions and why they never found a drop of drugs. Why is it he and Sharon would need help from social services if he was rolling in the dough off drug money. I have to admit, I to thought maybe if he wasn't involved in the kidnapping maybe it was the drugs but to look at all the facts there isn't even a drop of any drug's collected off Gary's property during either arrest or search. Lame duck drug story Wescott and how many trips did you have to take to Massachusetts to get drugs from the jail in which Gary was being held at? I agree one week til' Gary's appeals and I hear it is not going to go the way she or they hope it will. Tick tock your damn clock's are almost out of time. You all best pray for a "Manna from Heaven" to save your "NOT" sorry lying asses!!
                                                                                                                             April 20/18

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
To "reply to all"

You don't have to give names, but is what you are telling us about Stinson etc. the truth? And that many others have been interrogated?

I hope so but if they are using this as a cover up like the Jenn W. interrogation then it's a waste of time...;because I still believe they had enough to arrest her on something connected to this crime...BUT WHY DIDN'T THEY?
                                                                                                                              April 9/18



Today's Quote April 8/2018

The day the sign went up on Hank Babcock Blv. people were asking, who the hell is that.
Thirty years from now thousands will still remember Chet Fantom.


I can already hear the bagpipes and see the firehouse flag at half mast as the denizens of Ozwego bemoan the loss of Hanky “Panky” Babcock one of biggest bloodsuckers to draw a breath within the city limits. Among the many accomplishments you will not read in his obituary was his participation in the robbing of rent deposits from the residents of Hamilton Homes so the board could pay the salaries of Jim Cloonan and John Gosek’s idiot son who’s jobs consisted of doing as little as possible. For 91 years Hanky did little more than take up space and breath the air that might have been better used to fill turd shaped balloons.

There are fewer and fewer good people on this earth let alone the city of Ozwego. On April 6, 2018 their numbers were diminished by one, Chet Fantom. I knew him from the time he was the new kid at Raby's until he became the slightly rotund old guy with the gray hair. He always had a smile and a sense of humor and never said a bad word about anyone, something I never quite mastered. Going the extra mile to help someone was just his way.

There is kind of an unspoken language among cancer survivors. Conversations usually start with how are you doing or how you are feeling. They might exchange statistics about blood counts or treatments but mostly it is reading between the lines, or observations about things like hair loss, weight loss, skin color or attitude. When you have been in those shoes you have a pretty good idea what is really going on inside the other person.

The last time I saw Chet was March 16th. He was feeling OK. His color was not so good but had not been for some time. The radiation treatments for his Leukemia had taken their toll on his kidneys and he was now on dialysis. We talked about the recent passing of Ted Raby and his sister Roberta, which I had only recently heard of. His smile and humor were still intact and if he knew he was near the end he hid it well and I did not see it.


Chet was a good man and his passing will leave a void that will not soon be filled.


If life was fair Chet would have lived to be 91 and Babcock would have been stillborn.



Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
To the Gary supporters:
All you need to solve this case is
1. Why didn't Stinson see Richard, Swnkowski or Bivens if he was there before and after the crime?
2. Why didn't Bivens see Stinson there?
3. Why would Swenkowski lie about seeing Richard and seeing him leave alone?..He didn't lie, someone else did.
                                                                                                                              April 6/18

I do not know who knows about Heidi dating the sheriff. Its always been a rumor. Never confirmed. Nor did I know he was questioned.
                                                                                                                              April 6/18

Jenn Wescott recorded phone call with Tonya Priest
Jennifer Wescott said many telling things in the background that many didn't hear, because you have to listen closely.

Listen closely at the below listed times. You may have to listen a few times to catch it, but all can be heard.
@1 minute and 3 seconds, Tonya Priest: "Why did they even do this?" Jennifer Wescott: "It was for the cocaine"
@1 minute and 16 seconds, Jennifer Wescott, "I couldn't get them to go."
@4 minutes and 47 seconds, Jennifer Wescott. "Animals, God Almighty."
I'd say Jennifer knows a lot more about Heidi Allen's kidnapping.
                                                                                                                              April 6/18

Maybe these 2

Photo dated 2015 maybe, just maybe these two could tell you more about the officers relations with Heidi Allen. Everyone knew and knows. Its not a secret. But these two obviously have a secret. Nothing like meeting up in the middle of the Thibodeau case and getting their stories straight. Murtaghs sister has a secret. Must be sex, drugs and handcuffs keeps ocsd at bay.
                                                                                                                              April 6/18

Gary Thibodeau
Gary Thibodeau cocaine dealing. That's laughable. No traffic in and out of his home, confirmed by his neighbors, two huge searches on his property in 94 no drugs, no large amounts of money, no nothing was ever found on him during his arrests or on his property. For a man dealing huge quantities of cocaine he sure as hell hid the stash well. So well, the OCSD had nothing at all to support that theory. "They" are posting Heidis remains were found in some gravel pit. Upon Gary's arrest they searched a gravel pit 30 miles from his home. Bet your ass if they ever found anything in any way. It would have been used during the 95 trial. "If no one talks, everyone walks," the new slogan. To bad many already are talking. Heidis cop friend may want to understand one thing. There's a fine line between good cop and criminal and he's a damn criminal. Whatcha gonna do when they come for you, let me guess blame Gary Thibodeau. You are all just....
                                                                                                                              April 6/18


re:H.Allen Murder

News to me that Brett was a cop...unless she did have a cop bf on the dl.

If you read ALL documents available, you would have read during trial that Brett assaulted an ex-gf. You would have also read his testimony about getting to the D&W at 5:55am but the first register transaction-being turned on-was at 4:06am. How can that be?

Next, Heidi was not "used" in any criminal investigation. That's after months and months and years of the family and Dodd saying she wasn't an informant. Dodd even went so far as to tell Judge Brandt that Sergeant Lortie was mistaken when he wrote the report on April 24, 1994 of Heidi being "signed up".

You lost me at "Gary was target of cocaine investigation....". If that was true, why wasn't that used to bolster the crook killing informant angle by the prosecution. Seems like a pretty cut and dry motive as compared to what Dodd and Oakes have come up with. LE did go with the drug trafficker angle but even that has now been kiboshed with the MA police report Oakes filed and with the Fact that Gary got time served for the warrant out of MA.

p.s. I think your theory is wrong and doesn't fit the facts.
                                                                                                                              April 6/18

Heidi Allen Anniversary
Today's the Anniversary of Heidi disappearance. The sad thing is her sister not supporting finding the real truth. If she did she may actually find Heidi. She was also asked to join in the Steve Wilkos show. She was asked herself to be a direct part of the testing. She declined and informed Steve Wilkos she would press charges on them if they called her again and hung up on them. She has stated on the hope for Heidi wall it's for supporters only who have nice things to say. If you scroll all the way back as far as you can go. There is no posts reflecting anything but undying support and hope for missing Heidi Allen. Many citizens are supporters of both Heidi Allen and Gary Thibodeau. But many are not supporters of her sister or her beliefs in the Thibodeau case. She constantly says "you just needed to be in that court room." Well, many citizens were, including a multitude of reporters whom heard the very same things she, her self has, whom stood firm then and still stand firm today on the fact the "Thibodeaus were not the monsters who committed this crime." Not even her entire family believes the things Mrs. Buske does. She seems to be supporting the bogus investigation that has not brought her one step closer to finding Heidi. "It's easier to fool someone than it is to convince them they have been fooled." That statement is a clear reflection of Mrs. Buske. Her father on the other hand made a phone call four years ago, he wanted to know if one man was named. It wasn't either Thibodeau he asked about. The onion once wrote about Lisa Buske claimimg she and her family were threatened. If so, may God forgive Mrs. Buske for not having the courage to come forward and leading many astray out of fear. God granted the real truth will come forward for Heidis father and may Mrs. Buske realize then she's been greatly fooled. May Heidis remains be brought home to rest. For if anyone deserves peace it is missing Heidi Allen.
                                                                                                                              April 4-5/18


H.Allen Murder
after reading ALL the available material i believe that one major suspect was never even considered and needs a much closer examination. i'm talking about the COP/ boyfriend. he had the ONLY possible motive,in my opinion.
follow this: Allen is "drug informant" Gary is target of cocaine investigation. cop is dirty. Allen finds out and is too honest.period. Cop has MOST to lose.
                                                                                                                              April 4-5/18

H.Allen Murder 2
P.S.can anyone tell us where this cop/boyfriend was immediately after Allen disappeared? did he have an "alibi" that he was too eager to use? why did he distance himself from the investigation/ shouldn't he have been the MOST concerned? did he avoid "insinuating" himself into the investigation because,being a cop, he knew that that's what the killers do?
                                                                                                                              April 4-5/18


Gary's case

 Hewitt films just cut loose w a documentary on Gary's case.
                                                                                                                              April 4-5/18

Steve Wilcos
Richard and Tonya pass polygraphs.


Oswego County Manages To Steal The Headlines From The Victims In Parkland Florida
woman accused of stealing from Parkland school shooting memorial


                                                                                                                              March 27/18



From Gary to All of you
I hope all of you. Whom have stolen another man's life. Face karma never seen before.


                                                                                                                              March 27/18


Moe Todd
He is conveniently retiring just before the Heidi Allen case is about to bust wide open.
Now he will have more time to piss away his money on lottery tickets and Turningstone.
His gambling habit must cost at least fifth thousand a year.
                                                                                                                              March 23-24/18



This questions to Robert Wheeler. If you weren't a part of this b.s. case. Why then did you run from Investigator Haumamn and put yourself behind locked doors, so he couldn't question you. Upon fleeing you said. I'll quote you "You people want to put me in prison " don't you think you belong there? Bohrer speaks of you in his writings. He said you were showing cocaine symptoms on the stand and that Wheelers business was no good anymore. What business do you have with Bohrer? Cocaine? Is that why Bohrer knew you and called the sheriff's back then screaming "I know what happened to Heidi call Bobby Wheeler." We all know Bobby all about you. Your little b.s. in this case. Thank your buddy Bohrer that may be why "you think you people want to put you in prison." Not any fun is it. When the shoes on the right foot. Imagine Mr. Wheeler the Thibodeaus felt just as you do. Terrified. But theirs was for just cause. Everyone knows your dirty as hell. I'm sure Rainy could confirm a lot more of your back ground should we send them her way? Seeing as you messed w her life also. I think you'd deserve that much. Ooops didn't think we knew who she was. We sure as hell do. How many lives have you destroyed on your lies? Can you count them on your fingers and toes? I think not. You sir deserve a nice little cell right along side Steen. No conscience, no integrity and no dignity your cell will be in hell where you truly belong. Cause in the end you'll face your maker. You think it's bad here. You haven't seen anything yet. If I were you Mr wheeler. Id start wheeling and dealing. Because Steve Wilco is about to rock OZ and he is coming for all of you. The people he's tied to are going to put you in prison along side your little goons. Clocks ticking Wheeler the hunt for Bohrer has begun.
                                                                                                                              March 16/18

Interesting! Most of his defense arguments against Bohrer, Steen and Breckenridge would suite Gary Thibodeau. Is Defense not challenging enough? Would he rather get the adrenalin rush from putting together lies and twisting the facts to win? Or is he a pawn that can’t think for himself?

“repeated lies don’t make it true” That’s the most hypocritical quote from your legal position. What lies have you, personally, told that you claim is the Truth? Some have already been public.

You signed off on those filings/briefings so I hope you get the extreme wrath of Justice when the ‘legal system’ catches on to your blatant lies in legal documents.

Not a personal pleasure at your eventual downfall, but for Justice’s sake. Then, sadly that it happened in the first place, Gary can be added to the long list of exonerees of false convictions due to prosecutorial misconduct and biased investigations happening all over the country. #freegary Kudos to ALL who stand up against the corruption in OZ.
                                                                                                                                March 16/18

Gary "The Innocent" Thibodeau
Just read the prosecution brief for the Appeal dated March 2018…

You claim that Mr. Neville Sr’s testimony bolsters Mr. Fabian’s. PPfft. And what did we find out when the Defense questioned him during trial?.....That Mr. Neville Sr. was NOT the one who drove to the store the morning of April 3, 1994. In Fact, it was Neville Jr. who drove to the store. Wasn’t Jr. the one who called a lead about a weird phone call he received at his residence about where Heidi may have been and he didn’t recognize the callers voice? What is up with that? Did Law enforcement even investigate his lead and didn’t the jurors think anything fishy was going on? Also, wasn’t Neville Jr. in trouble with the law at the time of Heidi’s disappearance?

Yuuup..”the Da must have had something to get that far” but it surely didn’t become apparent, or PROVEN, if you will, in the Court of Law. law enforcement and the DA's office had months and months long media campaign to taint the public about whomever they accused. Not to mention the lies and dastardly games played with the Grand Jury. Yuuup…was a circumstantial case but the evidence DID NOT fit the twisted Facts.

-Real Fact-“no morphological details that suggest human remains” in the furnace debris. Twisted Fact-there were bone fragments in the furnace that 'could' have been Heidi.
-Real Fact-not one of 6 cadaver dogs indicated human remains on Gary’s property. No remains found after 2, that’s 2, searches of Gary’s property. Twisted Fact-The inmates guessed/surmised/theorized that Heidi was burned and buried on Gary’s property because the outside burn barrel was seized during the first property search while Gary was in the MA jail.
-Real Fact-Richard’s van was extensively searched and samples sent to the FBI lab on April 9, 1994 with no indication that Heidi was ‘ever’ in the van. Twisted Fact-Richard’s van was seen at a car wash on April 26, 1994.
-Real Fact-piece of carpet was missing from Richards van between April 9 and 26 which was found, determined to be the missing piece from the van, tested for DNA and revealed canine blood. Twisted Fact-the “rolled object” that a witness reported supposedly seeing the brothers carrying into the woods ‘could’ have had Heidi in it.
-Real Fact- Gary had 2 witnesses plus his (future) wife that gave alibis for April 2 and April 3, in addition to Richards albis. Twisted Fact-A bartender (who was also in trouble with the LAW) claims to have positively seen the brothers at a bar but told her boss she didn’t know the men who were in the bar on April 2.
-Real Fact-Gary and Sharon were in Oswego, NY between April 3-5, 1994 as evidenced by OCSD noting Caddy at residence in the evening of April 3 and receipts from the Oswego area during April 3-5. Sharon’s perjury charge for lying about their whereabouts on April 3-5 was DISMISSED. Sharon was acquitted for lying about where Gary was on April 3, 1994. Gary’s Caddy was searched in 1995. Twisted Fact-they drove to MA on April 3-5 with Heidi in the trunk.
-Real Fact- Richard had been dropped off at a job site in Liverpool. No evidence of Heidi was found in woods where 2 men were seen carrying a rolled object. Twisted Fact-Heidi may have been in the rolled rug from Richards van being seen at about 10:30am being brought into woods by Gary and Richard.
-Real Fact-none of the implements confiscated from Gary’s property had any human material on it. Twisted Fact- an army-type fold up shovel was found during a ground search and left where it lay AND a shovel from a retired detective’s van (witnessed by a reporter) had “skeletal muscle” on it.
-Real Fact-Bivens made 3 different police statements about the color, make and model of the van he supposedly saw the 2 men and one woman approaching the morning of April 3, 1994. Twisted Fact-Bivens was touted as an auto expert because he worked at an auto parts store.

-Real Fact-Bivens did not come forward with his observations until after the reward was announced. He lied on insurance questionnaires about an auto accident he was in in October 1993.
-Real Fact-The jail inmate, Baldasaro, received probation for VOP in which Florida Probation was requesting incarceration. Twisted Fact-the inmates only received compensation for room and travel for their testimony.
-Real Fact-Gary received time served for the charge in MA. Twisted Fact-Gary was arrested for drug trafficking in MA.
-Real Fact-The inmates would eavesdrop on Gary’s phone conversation while in jail and then ask him questions. Twisted Fact-Gary “confessed”.
-Real Fact-Heidi was on the employee schedule which was in customer view. Mrs. Duell and Mrs. Allen testified that Heidi “was scheduled to work” on April 3, 1994. Twisted Fact-At the last minute, Heidi volunteered to work April 3 because a co-worker could not.
-REAL FACT-Heidi was a CI for law enforcement, gave names and drug of choice of high schoolers to law enforcement Before she disappeared. Twisted Fact-Heidi informed on Gary and that’s “what she was going to screw him” about---drugs.
-Real Fact-there were 2 pre-trial Hearings- a Huntley and Sandoval. Twisted Fact-favorable prosecution evidence was suppressed.
-Real Fact-Mrs. Duell did not testify to EVERY transaction on the register tape . No other witnesses claimed the store was unattended between 6:35am when Brett supposedly left and 7:55am. Twisted Fact-The inmates testified that Gary told them he took Heidi from the store to near his house and Richard, only, brought her back to the store.
-Real Fact-Disinterested witness testifies to hearing and seeing nothing unusual about Richards van go by his property on Route 104 heading toward D&W and on the way back. Twisted Fact-Richards van was speeding and swerving as it went by.
-Real Fact-Richard purchased 2 packs of generic cigarettes. Paying with 4 $1 bills. No money was unaccounted for and law enforcement allowed the till to be deposited instead of sending for forensic testing. Twisted Fact-Register showing $1.38 (which would have been change from a $5) was the last register transaction.
-Real Fact-Mr. Swenszkowsi did not notice anyone in the van as he walked by the man that got out the drivers side. Twisted Fact-Someone other than Richard moved the van after Mr. Swenszkowski got a cigarette from the pack he just purchased and was preparing to leave.
-Real Fact-The tire mark in the D&W parking lot did not belong to Richards van. Twisted Fact-the mark was from Richards van after kidnapping Heidi.
-Real fact- The first register transaction was for 4:06am when the register was turned on. Twisted Fact-Heidi and Brett arrived at the D&W at 5:55am, turning the register on and changing the time for DST.
-Real Fact-Heidi's CI information was 'found' in evidence stored in Sheriff's garage in May 1995, right before Gary's trial began. Twisted Fact-Law enforcement denies to the public that Heidi was a CI.
-Real Fact-Dodd denies Heidi's CI status at a pre-trial Hearing in December 1994 (and via the media) even though Sergeant Lortie (of the CID unit) wrote a report on April 27, 1994 of personal knowledge that Heidi was "signed up" with parental consent. Twisted Fact-Heidi wasn't 'used' as a CI in a criminal case or criminal investigation.

Any other Real Facts?? How many uncorroborated theories does that make about the brothers being involved?

Well…it’s no wonder the DA doesn’t want to agree to another trial-He Will Lose!! Want to know the Truth for yourself, just read the DA's Statement of Facts and related documents and compare to the Defense's filings. It's all written in black and white.
                                                                                                                                March 15/18

From Oakes’ briefing for the Court of Appeals-

“Significantly, neither of these men received any benefit for their testimony (i.e
more favorable plea or sentence). There was no quid pro quo in exchange for their
testimony, so there was no incentive for them to falsely implicate Appellant. (SA
494, 524-26, 563, 573).”

“While Appellant disparages their testimony and characterizes them as nothing more than jail house
snitches, they received no consideration for their testimony. Further, in evaluating
their reliability, it's worth noting that neither man claimed that Appellant directly
admitted to kidnapping and killing Heidi Allen.”

Then, Oakes, where did the handwritten notes of Mr. Baldasaro (previously posted on this site on December 2, 2017) getting probation instead of jail time as Florida Probation department recommended come from?

So, Todd, the legal narrative is that “neither man claimed that Appellant directly
admitted to kidnapping and killing Heidi Allen.” Why are you publicly saying that Gary confessed?

I pray that both you law enforcement “agents”, along with Dodd, Wheeler, Yerdon, etc… are made to atone for breaking God’s Laws. “Thou shalt not bear false witness”.

April 26 is just around the corner.
                                                                                                                                March 15/18

Reply to Dodd n Oakes
Yes they think the public's stupid. All they do is attempt to dig up dirt on everyone else. To deny their own dirt they are trying to hide. Sickening. If Heidis case doesn't tell you how much the average citizens life matters. Nothing will. Any CI for OZ your better off dealing w a punishment than putting your life on the line for those who could care less your helping them. Heidis life obviously doesn't matter her CI Status obviously was lied about. Still is. Like she was nothing. She may not have mattered to them but she mattered to many just as Gary mattered but notice only they matter. That's why anyone who goes against them. They simply lie about also and tarnish anyone reputation by saying that persons crazy. Sick it really is very sickening for the public to support this case, conviction and pathetic stories they dish out about everyone who's tried to help these families. Oakes if anything happens to the one witness you exposed as a potential other CI 4 years ago. Which is not public info. You should be held fully responsible. You publically exposed another witness who was trying to give info as a CI. VERY DANGEROUS. BUT WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU CARE. NO ONE MATTERS BUT YOUR BUDDIES IN HIGHER POWER IN OZ.
                                                                                                                                March 12/18

Brett Law
Brett Law is a liar. Brett knew didn't you Brett?? Don't lie now Brett..It's obvious you were well aware.
                                                                                                                        February 22/18

Gary's Book.
Gary and his family have editors helping build his book. It's based off all facts, court documents, and every ounce of information produced by every angle of this injustice. It's coming very soon. It has a web site built to let the reader interact with each chapter. This is gonna make OZ look like the twilight zone.
Once it's live, ready, will post the link to you great folks. It'll be available for download and paperback edition. There are 3 books in total as the story is too long to detail all in one book. We begin with Manna from Heaven and take you back to 1994-1995. Thibodeaus are very excited they finally have a voice.
To the Allen's your daughter was not a coke head and to support the DA you are supporting the theory she was a druggie and an adultres. I pray you stop supporting a theory that destroys the true reputation and life Heidi built. She was an outstanding young lady and that will be portrayed through out Gary's book. God forgive you for supporting the idea she was a druggie. With no facts to support the DA you stood by this. Gary's book will reflect the real truth. Not reflect as Heidis sisters book has. No facts, no truth and not an ounce of knowledge to this case.
                                                                                                                        February 22/18

Gary Thibodeau....The Death Of Common Sense
Reading the latest on this web I believe the case really surrounds the first people at the store. A lot of their stories don't make sense. Not seeing anyone, any cars but then one guy sees a kidnapping but the other guy who was there earlier doesn't.

There are a number of suspicious events: Person who sent Steen text.."CYA Heidi". It sure seems that he knew Steen was involved doesn't it? and he doesn't know who sent it from his phone...hard to believe.

Stinson's story still baffles me...think about it.

Swenkowski saw Richard leave 7:42-7:43 but his truck was seen by neighbors 2 minutes after that...impossible.

I really believe that if he wins, he will win the next trial. Will Lisa opt for a trial without a jury? And will the FBI investigate the OCSD actions as they are obviously corrupt. Almost to the unbelievable.
                                                                                                                           February 17-18/18

Brett Law LIAR
Brett tells officers in 94 Heidi feared no one. Why is it Brett changed his story 20 years later. Now claiming Heidi feared a coke head who was in and out of jail? Why would her own boyfriend lie so bad about something that could have helped lead them to Heidi? That could have changed the course of so many lives? One could conclude Brett knows far more than he leads on. Brett how is it you've lived all these years, with not an ounce of guilt to your part in the lies that incarcerated an innocent human being? Sick bastard. There is a pretty place in hell for you and your buddies. If you think citizens aren't aware of your relationship in 94 with the original probable suspect the super hero writer the big, big guy you couldn't be more wrong. As many have already reported and confirmed your relationship with Garys attorney. Truth is you are both assholes, with no conscience. .


                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18

Gary's day
The People, Respondent, v. Gary Thibodeau, Appellant.
                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18




Mr. Oakes:

Correct me if I’m wrong, I don’t recall Dodd’s lying “eyewitness” EVER mentioning in any police statement or court testimony that the girl he “knew” was Heidi was or was not wearing a jacket when he supposedly witnessed the struggle.  He sure did mention her chest though!!  Funny…he noticed that but not what kind of shirt or jacket she may have been wearing?!?  How dare you twist Mr. Pierce’s statements and testimony to fit your agenda.  Fact that you didn’t accurately convey in your brief to the Appeals Court-Mr. Pierce drew a beard on Gary’s newspaper photo in 1994 and “thought it was close enough” so he didn’t come forward then.  Never crossed your pea mind that a young looking mugshot of Steen from 6 years prior to Heidi’s disappearance was inappropriate?  You did mention that the photo of Steen was 6 years prior in your filing…makes one wonder why YOU didn’t take it upon yourself, seeing that you question the integrity of the lead investigator-Mr. Petriski-to find a photo closer to April 1994.  Can’t do that but would-Fact-sit in on an interview with a witness who tells you and Petriski what she knew happened to Heidi?!?!


Mr. Bivens was torn limb from limb on the stand…pleading the fifth about lying on an insurance form…yet the jury believed his “eyewitness” account???  Yeah!, he’s a real stand-up guy…coming forward AFTER the reward was offered and by pressure from his significant other.  Nothing to gain for testimony??...Yeah right.  Just like Mr. Baldasaro received no benefit.  Which is another lie.  May I refer you to the handwritten notes from the ADA’s, previously posted on this site, to the clear/concise explanation that Mr. Baldasaro was to be given probation in opposition to Florida’s Probation Department recommendation that he be jailed.


You think you are so smart and have loyalty from others in Oswego??  Just wait until reelection time when You are not endorsed because you followed orders about fighting Gary’s exoneration that resulted in the public getting the Truth!!  You are the one with egg on your face.  Well, not the only one…Judge Donnie Dodd should be sanctioned for his part and Mr. Rule Todd as well!!  Good Luck…though it seems in politics, constituents have to pick between the lesser of two evils instead of the most qualified.  When is election?  I won’t be voting for you.


I sleep on a soft pillow.  What about YOU?



On To You

                                                                                                                            February 10/18   


Deputy Curtis
The 745 time comes from the officer who reached the scene first. Whom was waved down by Stitson. What Curtis doesn't comprehend by his 745 testimony. Is he put himself on the scene at the exact time Bivens would be passing the store. Bivens left east 2nd street at 730. It's 16 minutes from point a to point b. Putting Bivens on scene at the same exact time 745/746 (This does not included stops n gos at all stop lights heading out of Oswego as he stated). Stitson tells you on scene time was 758, later changed to 755, again changed by Curtis at 745. Then you have Fabian whom left her home in Fulton N.Y. at 712 am. 22 minutes from there to where she spotted the van on 104/69 placing this van at that location by 734. Mr.Nevill also left his home at 730, it's 4 miles from his house to the corner of 104/69 putting the van again at that very spot Fabian says by 734. Way before Richard Thibodeau ever arrived at the store and cashed out at 742. So 2 witnesses place a speeding van at the same spot at the same time of 734, Curtis placed himself on scene with Stitson and Bivens. Then you have the young girl whom claims to have seen Richards van by Gary's home at 748. Leaving 6 minutes to travel at estimated 15 miles. Putting the speed of the van at 150 mph. Then there's Baldasaro who says they picked Heidi up by the check out time of 742, drove to Gary's and back to the store, by 745. Leaving 3 minutes to travel 30 miles. Putting the speed then of this van at a whooping 300 mph. Fact check it Greg. Every ounce of these times came straight from your filing. Every drop of this is your own filing. That you never fact checked or did an estimate for time travel. You have 2 witnesses spotting a van 8 minutes before your scheduled kidnapping. 1 witness that saw the kidnapping at the exact time your officer testified to being on the scene. The only one dead on with the time is MR.S cashing out at 741, 11 minutes exactly from point a to the store from which he traveled from. Cashing him out at exactly 741. He is the only one that's dead on. Then there's Sheriff Nellis whom states on scene time was 758. Which Sheriffs lying?
By Greg's filing this is the time line
734 Fabian spots a van
734 Nellis spots a van
741 Stitson arrives sees nothing
742 Richard kidnaps Heidi
745 Curtis on scene
745/746 Bivens passes the store says he witnessed the kidnapping
748 Richards vans seen at Gary's
Either way you see it. By your own filing Greg. It's all IMPOSSIBLE
                                                                                                                           February 9/18


Greg Oakes out right lied in his filing.
He writes the on scene time was 745 am. The actual first report for the on scene time by Sheriff Nellis was 758. It later changed to 755. But in Greg's filing he has on scene time as 745. Here's another kicker. Bivens left his house at 730 am per reports, hitting every stop light out of Oswego. It's 16 minutes from his address to dnw store which puts bivens on scene at 746. So Greg why not tell these great citizens how your officers on scene per your filing at the same exact time your eye witness and your witness Stitson was on scene. You can't. Because you can't. You'd think you'd readjust your entire botched lying fraudulent case. Here's the proof. All lies Greg. I pray you are disbarred for filing false information.








Bohrer A Marine??
If you read any of Bohrer own Heidi triangles writings. He insists he was a former marine.

                                                                                                                       January 1/18

Re: Death of Common Sense
Bohrer writes in his notes that were seized. Kiki, coke dealer. Kiki was a massive, larger than Bohrer drug dealer. Often running to none other than N.Y. city and back. His real names. Maximo Kiki Sanchez. Funny how he is arrested right after Heidi becomes a Ci and inbetween the time she vanishes. Highly dangerous, a criminal record longer than Oakes and Dodds lies. Its obvious Bohrer is linked to him, notes him in his Heidi Triangle book. But yet the Sheriff's play dumb on who he is. Maybe that's why Fulton PD brought him down in 93. So is this the man everyone seemed to fear? Including Heidi? Kiki is the only coke dealer listed in any notes, papers or documents anywhere. Its logical to lean towards YES it's quit possible. Seeing as the CI who did bring him down was also terrified of this man. Anyone hear of this fella before?

                                                                                                                       January 1/18

Funny Bohrer indeed has this man's name in his paper work. Funny the man's a coke dealer that word pops Up a lot in this.

Jail term
OSWEGO — Maximo "KikT
Sanchez, 39, of 149 E. Cayuga St.,
—Qswego. was sentenced Monday in
County Court on charges of thirddegree
criminal sale of a controlled
substance and third-degree criminal
possession of a controlled
Sanchez was sentenced by Judge
John Elliou to a maximum of nine
years, minimum of three years in
Elmira State Correctional Facility.
He was also assessed a $155
surcharge. , • <
Sanchez was originally indicted
on 22 drug-related charges. According
to court documents, Sanchez
possessed and sold .87 grams of
cocaine for $80 while at his residence.
He also sold 1.07 grams of
cocaine on March 13 at his residence,
according to court
On Jan. 15 Sanchez sold 2.60
cocaine on Jan. 20, according tocourt
records. On Jan. 23 he allegedly
possessed 4.52 grams of
cocaine. _^ —
                                                                                                                       January 1/18

Today's Quote December 27/2017

'Tis not enough to help the feeble up, but to support them after.
William Shakespeare

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Someone posted about NYS investigating the Thibodeau case.....NOT TRUE
                                                                                                                        December 27/17

Smithsonian report for evidence in Heidi's case

                                                                                                                        December 27/17

Yep, tourism is the answer over a 52 a week jobs !
                                                                                                                        December 27/17






Please post the report from the Smithsonian Department of Anthropology regarding the evidence for the Heidi Allen case.

Couple questions:

Did the FBI agent that testified for the defense, Christopher Allen, read this document out loud during Gary's trial? And what does "but there are no morphological details that suggest a human origin." mean?

Also, why didn't the Defense call in a cremation specialist or have any kind of expert in human body disintegration?

One simple question to the FBI agent, who gave a partial true answer, and there is the belief that Heidi (could have) was burned in an outside burn barrel/pit.

What did the inmate supposedly tell Gary...that teeth don't burn? Jurors, you believed the inmates testimony, so.....why weren't TEETH found or reported by the Smithsonian? **slapping forehead** That's right, the Thibodeau's sifted through the burnt material, removing only what was human bone but leaving the burnt bone material that was what they testified to...animal bones, specifically chicken (as testified). Just like they must have had plastic in the van when Heidi was taken to justify no DNA in Richard's van. Right Dodd....the "cleaning" of the van...that In Fact happened AFTER the April 9, 1994 complete forensic exam of the van. Dodd.........the jurors could make up theories with no evidence but they didn't have the higher thinking that because there was no evidence pointing to the DA's and Sheriff's theory being correct that, In Fact, it makes the theories INCORRECT?

HHmmmm, they must have had their man then even though nothing truthfully fits.? The timeline doesn't fit with Richards movements the morning of April 3, 1994. No DNA evidence fits with a violent struggle taking place in the van. Verifiable alibi witnesses don't fit with Richard and Gary being together on April 3, 1994-Gary's adult neighbors witnesses didn't even ID Richards van at Gary's on April 3, 1994. No teeth or any other positive human remains were on Gary's property, via negative indications from multiple cadaver dogs on Gary's property and the Smithsonian report. "everyone would agree that Heidi wouldn't leave the store unattended". Then why do some people believe the inmates when they testified that Gary and Richard took Heidi to near Gary's while she was working alone?

Come on jurors...if you had known about Dan Barney being listed as "probably suspect" or that Michael Bohrer had been interviewed by the FBI and OCSD was competent to get his criminal past in 1995, would that have tipped the scales for you to acquit because the DA did not prove anything "beyond a reasonable doubt".

Merry Christmas Gary and Richard and all your family. Praying for Justice and Peace and Repentance and Healing for All Involved.
                                                                                                                        December 24/17

“no morphological details” Basically that means there was nothing, ie. ash, particles, cells, DNA molecules, smell or spirit that was human in origin. The bit about burning the body in a stove was as reliable as the rest of

the snitches story.

Reply to 3 Amigos
I read back in 2014 that someone said that a woman ( worked as a law clerk I believe) caught two guys in lies at the store.

1. Deputy that got flagged down said that he had to go follow the van...but according to this story, NO ONE MENTIONED A VAN!!!

Is it true , I don't know, as I thought he stayed there and called it in and inspected the area etc.

Also Sue Rodems died of a heart attack....what caused it...unknown, unless you believe the BS in Fulton.
                                                                                                                        December 21/17



How Coincidental

Richard Thibodeau attorney, called the jail house snitches Agents. Said they were working for the dept. Funny one snitch McDonald arrives inside Mass Jail the same day as Richards arrest for Heidi and Garys May arrest for Mass Jail. How odd, May 25th, 1994. National missing kids day. How sick. Sick DA Office. Even sicker sheriff dept.

                                                                                                                        December 21/17



Huge Mistake by Sheriffs

Wednesday July 27, 1994. The Herald Journal released the snitches statements. This is the issue. How did the Sheriffs obtain on the 27th Baldasaro statement dated July 31, 1994. Sheriffs made a mistake. Baldasaro never signed until 4 days after the Herald aired his written statement? Huge set up Dodd? On July 23, 1994 Dodd calls the snitches a mannia from Heaven. Unless you have ESP, or can time travel in the future Dodd, on the 23nd, 27th, Baldasaro had not written any statement. Talk about a huge set up. Huge mistake by releasing Baldasaro statement 4 days early. Would leave anyone asking how the hell Dodd knew on the 22nd about Baldasaro statement when it wasn't yet signed. Heres the proof. Ill tell you how Dodd. You set Gary up. Did not on July 23 yet have Baldasaro as a witness. The more you compare dates the more Dodds story doesn't add up. Its obvious they set Gary up intentionally was in contact witn these snitches the entire time. On June 29, 94 they siezed Garys stove. How funny it is a month later. Dodds witnesses fell from the sky claiming Gart burned Heidi in a wood stove again Dodd did your ass time travel to know in a month God was gonna drop 2 witnesses on your lap that claim the same theory with the stove you have?? How funny you sieze the stove. Then a month later seem to have witnesses to back up your lies. Total set up. You sneaky sob.




                                                                                                                        December 21/17

Today's Quote December 20/2017

Money? How did I lose it? I never did lose it. I just never knew where it went.

Edith Piaf

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
The AG office must follow procedures and writing a letter ( if true) to inform Lisa about what is going to is slow moving.

I hope the person that posted.."I got a phone call from one of the guys towing a trailer that VanPatten called for the hit" telling the truth.

They will probably have a hotline you can call and not give your name. If you KNOW something and it's true please let them know. It's too late for them to do anything violent as it will open up more avenues.

Please step up and do the right thing.
                                                                                                                        December 20/17

3 Amigos...
Good question. Also, does anyone know which sheriff's deputy had his/her patrol car parked for years permanently just down the hill from the D&W for years in a private driveway on 104? I always thought this was very strange.
                                                                                                                        December 20/17

3 Amigos
When Heidi came up missing....
Curtis left the store to follow pursuit....correct?
(Maybe) he was leaving the scene with Heidi in the back seat. The van might had pulled in for business, seen "something" happening, and left. Curtis now leaves with Heidi.
Anyone ever check out the cops cars for DNA.
Didn't Curtis get a new car shortly after that?
More questions!
                                                                                                                        December 19/17

State Attorney General's Office

OSWEGO, N.Y. -- "The state Attorney General's Office has begun investigating whether all evidence in the 1994 abduction of Heidi Allen in Oswego County was turned over to lawyers for the man convicted of kidnapping her.

The AG's Conviction Review Bureau filed papers this week in the Oswego County Clerk's office revealing the state prosecutors' involvement for the first time.

Assistant Attorney General Gail Heatherly, chief of the review bureau, wrote a letter last month to Thidobeau's lawyers and to prosecutors saying her office was involved "in the hope that the discovery provided and the investigation performed in this 20-year-old case is as complete as is humanly possible."

The documents include a request to local law enforcement agencies for any reports related to the case, and the police agencies' responses."


Whoppie Sh!t They wrote a letter asking the most corrupt county in the state to play fair.

                                                                                                                        December 18/17

Doj, FBI, attorney General. When have you seen them ever in upstate NY help on any case other than Doyle's? They are wondering how to save the state millions in a law suit. Pretty sick they stand on the side lines. Do NOTHING but get involved in a case State Police could have handled on their own (Doyle). Garys case, they snub their noses to it. Both attorney general and FBI are a Waiste of tax payers money. Neither dept, has done shit. It does not matter what you've seen, heard or report, they've watched this case unfold, have done NOTHING to intervene. Lisa works for DOJ. Instead the FBI up there, fiddles with pathetic cases like Doyle, to do with a teen kid, not a homocide. Heidi is null n void to them. Along with Gary. Political powers do one thing. Cover the asses of other political powers. Attorney Generals a joke. And lied to the public. They NEVER investigated. It was a lie and a farce to look good in the public eye. FBI have had 23 years to also do their job. Only one who seems to know how to do their job is Lisa.
                                                                                                                        December 15-16/17

Gary Thibodeau.....The Death Of Common Sense
I have always wondered what Mr. Swenkowski was thinking when the verdict came back as GUILTY! He saw him...alone, watched him leave...alone and never saw a kidnapping or Gary while he was there. Now I wonder just what the hell the jury was thinking...if anything at all.

I have always wondered what Mr. Stinson is thinking about how some people may ask how did you NOT see anything? You stated you were there from approx. 7:38 to 7:55 and flagged down a cop. But you stated that you never saw anyone or any cars. I have always wondered.....WHY or HOW.

I have always wondered why Mr. Biven's testimony is all over the place. The time, description of the van, description of the kidnappers ( not at all fitting the two brothers physical apperance ), changing his mind on the van he saw in and out of court. And how could you not see that a girl struggling didn't need your help?

I always wondered why Oakes' MA story was proven false (in court) but nothing was ever done about it.

I always wondered hoe Dodd could have even taken them to court without ANY evidence or witness that puts them there.

I always wondered about the cash register time, money and testimony.

I always wondered why after Jen Westcott failed a poly about a taped phone call, then went back in and said she was told what happened to Heidi and mentioned a WHITE van at the house she said she never lived at and the OCSD did nothing. Also telling the cops.."after 20 years I still have to tell you there were 2 vans?

I always wondered how, why and when the OCSD decided to frame Gary T. Was it years later after they knew he was innocent and someone ( maybe a politician ) said to him we don't need a law suit ( just my opinion).

I always wondered why these were not means for more investigation: Jen Westcott stories, Deputy lying on the stand, evidence withheld,, Oakes telling Lisa P. that he didn't have very much confidence in INTEGRITY of the OCSD investigation and all the other things that makes people think...COVER UP!

I am still wondering if the FBI is coming to town, God knows they all gave enough lopsided info and failed to continue a still open case.

I wonder what the FBI, DOJ and the NYS Atty General's council is...well WONDERING!
                                                                                                                        December 15-16/17

Ding Dong. You’re wrong….Oaks
Steen was “likely falsely boasting”. Based on what FACTS? Did he pass a lie detector? What about 3 cadaver dog indications near an area similarly described by his “boasting”? What about Bohrer? Was he given a test, too? And it didn’t concern you that he knew and had so much information from around the time of the disappearance? He certainly didn’t get it from social media and I highly doubt the documents he DID have were available to the public even BEFORE Gary’s trial.
Here, Oaks, is a high five to start you on your way to Investigation 101.
                                                                                                                        December 13/17

Ozwego County
The cops – lawyers – doctors – politicians in Ozwego County have abused – raped - and killed more women in this county then anybody would ever imagine. Gary was lucky he only got jail.
                                                                                                                        December 12/17





3 Amigos
Years back. A man named Sirgibbs sat in the court room. Watching Garys case unfold. He posted some pretty intelligent posts. He tells you. There are 3 connections that OCSD didnt want you to link together. That 3 would go to the dirty cop cokers house. That 2 knew, 2 really KNEW, he writes.
Funny how Vanpatten, Curtis, Petrowski hang at Curtis house over the years. Dirty cop cokers house must be Curtis, the 2 who Knew, really KNEW was petrowski and Vanpatten. Can it be proven. Yes. It can be proven by eye witnesses.
Matter of fact. Curtis was petrowski mentor lol per say.
So you have the lead investigator stealing texts messages between 2 persons of interest. Makes complete sense now. Why this entire case has gone in the direction it has.
The officer whom dropped the cards, buddies to lead investigator now, also friends to same cop whom exposed Heidi and Curtis just happened to be driving by minutes after Heidi disappeared.
You 3 corrupt amigos belong in prison.
                                                                                                                       December 8/17

ocsd and da corruption
sue boullard knew everything that was going on with the drug dealing, extorsion, embezeling and sexual harassment in the district attorneys office and sheriff’s department.She wasn’t afraid to call them on it and she ended up in the river at the same spot where they dumped Carol wood. Heidi was on the inside working with that slime and she just vanishes. Several women got too close to that bunch and ended up dead unexpectedly. A lot of the dirty money was being laundered through columbia savings and loan and fulton savings and probably still is.
                                                                                                                       December 8/17

Special Deputies
Beside the drug trade ands rasping women motorists it is a wonder they found any time to protect and serve.You know that is why the Sheriff and the DA are so dead set against a new trial for Gary. They don’t want the truth and the OCSDs involvement in Heidis disappearance to come out in the light of day. Are you out of your ever lovin? No but you sure as hell are Todd.
                                                                                                                       December 7/17

The Oswego/Co.rt 1 Halloween wagon
Hey Kells,
Did anyone else notice that the little Halloween hayride wagon now sits at the east end of the Dpw fenced in area. That seems to me like he should be reprimanded for that stunt.
The problem is that when little billy has his dough wagon out there for the festivities this makes him an accomplice. I cannot believe this blatant b.s. Is still allowed after all the bullshit this city has gone through.
I drive by Kells house everyday. If I see him plowing his driveway I will stop and introduce myself to him. Have some guts folks. This is our money these people are spending. Hold these people accountable and make them pay with losing their jobs.
Let's get moving on taking control of a city that has never had accountability. We do have outside resources that can help. Call the A.G's office , call the congress person, call the Nys comptroller and see who to talk to due to misuse of municipal money.

Signed, I'm watching

                                                                                                                       December 7/17

Re: sleezy lawyers
The same ones always seemed to be there, the Hawthornes, Eby, Cieszeski and Todd. Not one real lawyer in the bunch.
                                                                                                                       December 7/17

Sexual Blackmail In Oswego County
In the 90s RT 57 South of Fulton was prime hunting for the Fulton Cops and the County Sheriffs.
Women getting out of work at Miller and Owens were prime targets of these sexual predators. Some of them recorded the harassment by officers and deputies and confronted District Attorney James Grose. Grose smashed the recorder in front of them and threatened them should they ever bring up that subject again.
It didn’t end there. Women who didn’t put out were given tickets for loud mufflers, tail lights out or doing 37 MPH in a 35 MPH zone. Then there was a host of sleezy lawyers waiting to represent them for you guessed it sex.
                                                                                                                       December 6/17

Reply Moe Todd
Laugh away. Every one I know is laughing at them. The public knows the truth, no matter how much they lie. Facts are facts. No matter the lies. It can never change that fact.
                                                                                                                       December 6/17

I know for a fact. One deputy followed the bartender from Williamstown home one night after she closed up the bar. Yes the choice was sex or dwi. She is very vocal about this incident. Its called sexual harrassement, entrapment, the list goes on. It started with oral sex on the road. He then followed her back to her place. Mean while he was on duty and we tax payers are paying for this nasty shit. Ill get his name but to the officer whom did this. Her intials are TM, and Im certain you are well aware of who you are...Oakes will deny...deny...deny..everyones a liar but OCSD, DA office. Instead of him seeing hes surrounded by pigs, literally. He thinks hes surrounded by heros. He couldn't be any dumber.
                                                                                                                       December 6/17

Special Deputies
One of the biggest jokes in Oz was the daughter Jack Obey fathered in lieu of a speeding ticket. Its not just the nineties. that sh!t goes on every day in this county by every law enforcement agency
                                                                                                                       December 6/17



Re: Gosek Recording
You people on here are a joke. You think those dumb Polacks that elected thos to Goseks care about there sex crimes. If the old man ran for mayor again he would get elected. Oswego is just as f**ked up as they are. The kid is a teacher. What a perfect person to be involved with children.
                                                                                                                       December 5/17

Re: Moe Todds Special Deputies
Hope the women who were taken advantage of by these disgusting men had the where-with-all to get STD tested after their encounter. Wonder if their wife/girlfriend had any idea just how sickening their loved one was or is De Nile the River in Egypt?
CDC, was there an epidemic of oral Herpes in Oswego during the time period of these allegations?
“Smear campaign by the Defense”. LOL, Mr. Oakes. Appears your buddies smeared……before any of the outside world even knew!! ** Dang, I just thought they were incompetent at their jobs. Must reconsider in light of the new accusation.** But yet these are some of the a&$holes that are trusted by some in the community?!?! I wonder though, how adept are some people at being two-faced?
I apologize. I know I shouldn’t laugh at the…..expense of others.
                                                                                                                       December 5/17

Special Deputies And Special Judges.
My neighbor had her kids taken by DSS. Two weeks later she got them back. Her words “ all I had to do was blow the family court judge”.
                                                                                                                       December 5/17

The judges and attorneys have been preying on the women and young boys of this county for half a century. It is time for them to speak out.
                                                                                                                       December 5/17







Today's Quote December 4/2017

She plucked from my lapel the invisible strand of lint (the universal act of woman to proclaim ownership.
O. Henry

Moe Todds Special Deputies
In the early Nineties Under Sheriff Moe Todd gave dash mount strobe lights to ADA Don Dodd and ADA Don Todd so they could make citizens arrests. How it worked was they would follow women home from local bars and pull them over for suspicion of drunk driving. Some got a stiff warning others had to service the stiff end of the law.

                                                                                                                       December 4/17
Just when you think you have heard it all.

State Police Arrest Reports 07/06/2008

Louis E. Sorendo, 51, of 21 Ellen St., Oswego
On 07/06/08, Louis E. Sorendo, age 51, of 21 Ellen St., Oswego, NY, was arrested by the New York State Police ââ‚Âââ‚Å“ Syracuse for Unlawful Possession of Marijuana after being stopped for a seat belt violation at the Verona interchange (exit # 33) of the Thruway.
Mr. Sorendo was released to appear in the Town of Verona court.
                                                                                                                       December 4/17


Shower Room Banter

Federal inmate #1: Hey Leroy, remember that child molester Gosek that came through here back in 2006? He was some of the best lovin I had on the inside but he was always crying so I had to put a bag over his head.

Federal inmate 2: Yeah Bubba, he was ok but I would rather do his son. I’d like to throw a flag over his little a$$ and do him for god and country.

Hinder Grinder
                                                                                                                    December 2/17

Bobby Baldasaro
Has anyone besides Dodd seen the notes about Bobby?

HHmmm. A report from Florida probation says they recommend that his probation be revoked and "2 years community control for closer supervision". Notes show that a governors warrant was issued for him. They were going to hold him up in MA so he can testify in NY "then we can justify putting him back on probation". What? He got probation for testifying in NY.

Damn, and I thought it was testified to that neither inmate received any benefit for testifying.?!

It's all in black and white...Bobby did.


                                                                                                                    November 27/17


Grab your ankles Oswego....
If everyone thinks they don't have any X-mas $$$ leftover now once paying that f'n disastrous water/sewer bill then hang on's going up to $315/qtr. come February so you really won't have any f'n $$$ remaining to do anything with...including eating! Oh, and wasn't a screwdriver that killed the old man on Mitchell St. many years was a f'n icepick & the local police have made it known! HMMM!!!
                                                                                                                    November 27/17

Bivens and criminal witnesses
LOL...."disinterested witnesses" we found credible? Like who?

Bivens was obviously lying about something....many different police statements, pleading the 5th during trial about the false insurance claim form.

Ms. Montgomery...

Mr. Neville Jr....

The Cowen's knowing Bivens....

The store owner, "family friend", finding the CI card but testifying to not "warning" Heidi's family.....

That Sturtz woman "we kept it a secret" that Heidi was IN FACT a CI....

Please post the documents about Baldasaro getting a reduced sentence on recommendation for his NY testimony.

Deputy Wheeler lying under oath. Dodd refusing to give "the entire" OCSD case file as per repeated arguments against turning over documents and "finding" Heidi case evidence "in the garage" in the 11th hour.

BUT....this was a good arrest, good conviction. LMAO Todd, Dodd, guys can't be that ignorant!?? You guys are sick mother___ that have turned a missing young woman from your community into a trivial, cya occurrence.

Sad that Heidi's own loving sister can't comprehend what is written in black and white. I would not rest, even after all these years, if Heidi was my sister, daughter, close cousin, close friend. Pray that more people speak the truth for Justice for Heidi and Gary....Shame on All You Liars/Deceivers.

Heidi was/is important even if one has given up hope for finding the Truth!!

Have you seen Bivens' Facebook page? Some kind of Christian to violate one of God's Laws...."Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor". Praise God that those who violate HIS laws will be properly Judged and Punished. Eternity is a long time, if you're a believer.
                                                                                                                    November 27/17

Re: IP address
What are they worried about unless what is posted can be proven?

Some accusations are false...but others are true.

I am willing to bet that most of what is posted about the Heidi Allen case is a FACT that can be proven from written documentation.

NO INTEGRITY and NO MORALS. Ya'll should resign. Along with the other crooked Oswego government officials.

Keep Speaking and vote the vermin out!! Research your candidates. Talk to the candidates and other constituents. Thank you to ALL who don't give up! "WE the People" are stronger than them.
                                                                                                                    November 27/17

Threats and intimidation are how these people stay in control and out of jail. When they become too much of a liability they get thrown under the buss like Dumbsmor did to Gosek.

Water Bills 2018
They are raising the water bills from $275 to $315. Are you f<{king me. Barlow sure has BS everyone in this dump city. Giving money to all his friends and stealing money from everyone else. How does he expect the seniors on fixed incomes to pay for this ..This city government has gone right in the toilet Barlow if you read this. You and your government are idiots ..
                                                                                                                    November 27/17







Today's Quote November 26/2017

Glory, built on selfish principles, is shame and guilt.
William Cowper

This Bivens???
This Bivens? Are you talking this Bivens. Are you identifying the DA main witness as a past prime suspect in the odd death of an old man? If so whats this old mans name? Easy way to find that out. Unless of course the Sheriffs disposed of his past crimes, I wouldnt doubt in exchange for his testimony?? One could make that assumption. If so, Dodds more Devil than the real devil. Sick....this entire case the more you stop and smell the roses, you notice those gorgeous roses smell like shit. The stench is coming from OCSD and the DA Office.
How would one confirm all those things?? Anyone have any proof of the Bivens claims posted on here?
                                                                                                                    November 26/17

Is the Bivens referenced in the Heidi Allen story the same Bivens that drove taxi for Horan's in the 80s? If so he has quite a shady reputation to start with. He was arrested for false imprisonment of a teenage girl in the back seat of his cab, he refused to let her out until she agreed to have sex with him! He also robbed an old lady on rt 48,Mrs Cahill on 3 seperate occasions and was a suspect in the suspicious death of an old man on Mitchell St who was found dead at the bottom of his stairs with a screwdriver through his skull. The same police investigating the Heidi Allen case determined that death to be accidental. lol
                                                                                                                    November 25/17




Reply to Bivens
I've read on Bivens also before but its the first time I've ever really sat down and compared his stories and his multitude of changed statements, his confusing descriptions and changes he added to the van, he even changed the vans location at the store, from between the pumps to the outside of the pumps. Bivens, is certified, in my opinion, up to no good. I never knew he gave the make and model of the vehicle. Not every ones from the Oswego area. So obtaining transcripts arent easy for outsiders. Ty for sharing that. To me Bivens pleading the 5th, tells me a lot. Seems a pretty good ammount of Oakes side uses the 5th like it means nothing. To me the 5th typically, tells anyone, besides numb nuts Oakes. They've got something to hide. You are only to use that line if it will incriminate yourself. By using the 5th, to me, they did just that. Bivens is a con, simple as that.
                                                                                                                    November 23/17






Okay, this will clear up all the confusion Mr. Bivens created with his lies.

Say hello to Mr. Christopher Bivens, the DA eye witness. This photo tell anyone anything?

                                                                                                                    November 22/17


I had a C 10 pickup back in the 70s and always thought the vans were C 10 too. I just never cared or looked that close to see that the "C" was actually a "G". Now reading his statement I see a lot more than has been talked about before. H said he recognized the van from the rust over the wheels and the bumper that hung down and a trailer hitch. He claimed he didnt stop because he didnt want to get involved.


Driving down a major highway in slush and snow he sees a woman struggling with a man and he still is observant enough to note rust, a crooked bumper and a trailer hitch yet the description of the man did not fit either of the Thibodeau brothers and the pictures of the van below show very little rust over the wheels.


A more likely story would be he observed a woman and a man in what he thought might be a domestic dispute and just kept going. Later he learned of the missing store clerk and began to feel bad about not stopping so he called the OCSD. Even though his original description of the van did not fit the Thibodeaus or there van the sherrifs show him a picture of Richards van an he then decided that was the one.

                                                                                                                    November 22/17

Bivens' Testimony C-10 Van
The fact it may have been a light blue C-10 van was given in Bivens' testimony. It's not that hard to find, guys.

                                                                                                                       November 21/17

Richard's van
Here's how these g, c things work for Chevy. There is no such thing as a c10 van. Ever. C10 is a pickup truck. GM had letter names for their body styles.
C - 2 wheel drive pickup
K - 4 wheel drive
G - van
The 10 means 1/2 ton, 20 3/4 ton, 30 1 ton. Bohrer drove a 1976, G20 3/4 ton.
                                                                                                                       November 21/17

C10 van huh...
How the hell would you know the van they are looking for is a c10 Chevy van? Maybe you need a knock on your door. No where does it say ever Bohrer had a Chevy c10. But your dead on. That's a fact you shouldn't and wouldn't know. Its not mentioned or documented anywhere.

                                                                                                                       November 19/20/17

C10 huh...
Richard's vans a 1976, which would make it a G10, G20, G30 series. Here are the 1976 specs from Chevy for the 1976 year. So no the c10 series was never, not once listed anywhere in any one of the witnesses statements, court documents, records. Not one person ever described the van as a white or blue c10-CHEVY. Bivens stated ,"I THINK it was a Chevy, van. FROM 1979-1986." The MAKE AND MODEL is not listed anywhere, as a definite . Not even in Bivens statements. So the c10 Is not a fact and isn't relevant. Because a 1976, is a G SERIES MODEL. All that's ever said is they witnessed a white, off white or blue van. Where you came up with a c10 is beyond me.


                                                                                                                    November 19/20/17


Murtaugh comments:
As a matter of fact I do on my way to new haven now had a nice road trip to fernwood too wink emoticon
Posted on Judge to prosecutor in Heidi Allen case: You missed chance to respond to wrongful conviction claim
9/18/2014 9:42 AM

Omg please no mistake we (3 of us) picked up two vans at gt house ... Me roger & a 3rd person picked up a dift van in fern wood I can't tell you where it was but I'm sure I can drive right to there like I did last week going to Gary's house ( that I had only been to twice before in the 90's
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:25 PM

It was a red house is all we can remember
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:17 PM

I'm sorry I don't I'd just be guessing but one of my helpers just asked me if I remember going to fern wood to get a white van at 1st didn't remember but after talking a bit I do now
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:08 PM

No in fern wood ( I think that's how you spell it
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:05 PM

Omg I don't know I just remember him coming to me wanting me to pick one up for him .. Never gave it much thought till tonight talking it over with my staff
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 10:55 PM

You all ready for this one ????? I do remember going with RB to fern wood to pick up a white van that he had to junk back around same time of the ha deal
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 10:52 PM

Tina Bennett Fighting For Fathers Rights
How much time do you think she will spend on your case when she devotes half of her TV commercial to taking shots at her ex husband and his family.
                                                                                                                    November 19/20/17


Richard murtaugh @rmroutlaw · Jan 14

#heidiallen after 20 plus years this is the best they can come up with? & it all started from towing a van that was never at Gary's .. Joke

                                                                                                                    November 19/20/17

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Swenkowski, Richard, Jenn Westcott, Bivens, Stinson, OCSD, DAs...and of course Gary:

Why didn't Swenkowski's testimony about seeing RT leave the store alone carry any weight?
RT walked out and HA was in the store when he left
Stinson walked in and NO HEIDI????? So what happened after Senkowski and RT left? What exact time was Bivens there? His story is confusing...why? Simple question and a simple answer...cover up?
Bivens saw the kidnapping, RT, Swenkowski, Stinson were there a little before it happened, did anyone see another person after they left?
Caught in so many lies in still an open case, why wasn't her stories followed up?
I simply don't believe Jenn Westcott......Oakes. Why not? You offered her immunity, must have believed it then,
and after she failed a poly and then said in a second meeting that she was told about what happened to HA, said "they brought her in a WHITE VAN"'re right Mr. Oakes you shouldn't believe her. But part of LE is to pick apart lies and to follow up if you think it may lead somewhere. You guys did nothing of the sort. WHY NOT???

Everyone but you guys think it was a good start.
What PROOF did you have that GT was NOT home at the time of the crime. Did you check for foot prints in the snow at his house? Anyone see him at the store...NOPE. But you Dodd convinced a jury that he was there even if the description didn't fit the brothers.

Did you use a line up before the case? Never heard that you did. Is that standard police work in an investigation or is it a way to cover up and convict an innocent man? No line up ...hmmmm.

Why was your story about RT going to MA with HA in the trunk, destroyed in court by two deputies? Is that a lie or just another run around the outside and hope for the best. And you searched the car and found nothing.
Were Stinson, Bivens and Swenkowski given polygraphs?

If it happened T 7:42 am and Bivens saw it then Swenkowski, Stinson should have seen it too because RT left and Swenkowski said he waited for him to back out as he packed his cigarettes in his car.

With all these things pointing to innocent of the brothers, why didn't you look at other people? Did you have a hunch at who they may be? Did you ask neighbors of MB, Steen and Roger if they saw them leave early in the morning? Roger's wife said he did. There's a start and you again failed in your investigation....intentionally?

Lies for deputies on the stand, Jenn W. telling you what you needed to hear, witnesses did not id RT's van, just the opposite, they said (as your star witness Bivens said at first) that it wasn't RT's van.

Have you read any of the comments in the paper or on the web as we have uncovered a lot of loose ends in this case?

Do you guys sleep well at night, when the demons come into your mind. Wouldn't you like to have it stop? What an awful feeling, night after night and now you have the FBI to worry about and they are very serious people.

First one to give states evidence walks and all others will be put in prison!

                                                                                                                    November 19/20/17

Van Picture
The van in the picture is a Ford Econoline not a Chevy C-10. Don’t know if that C-10 description is relevant or not; just pointing out a fact
                                                                                                                            November 18/17

Fernwood Feed Mill Van
The picture is a little fuzzy, but the Fernwood Feed Mill van looks to be a darker blue than the van at Manwaring and Route 3. Also, the rear side windows are different (the lighter blue van has circular windows). It would be worth a shot for John O'Brien (who switched careers and is now an investigator with Peebles) to look into the history of this van. We all know Richard's van should have been returned to him a long time ago.

                                                                                                                            November 18/17

Sounds like Greg Aka the DA, that there's some big boys knocking on doors. It's not your buddies the Sheriffs. Sounds like your screwed. Did you truly think your Sheriffs had full jurisdiction. Not when it comes to corrupt politicians. It's not the Sheriffs making their rounds. It's officers with integrity.
                                                                                                                            November 18/17


D&W store front
How in the heck could Richard have fit his van between the pump and Mr. Swenzkowki’s car to park in front of him if Mr. Swenzkowski arrived first? OR was Richard IN FACT telling the truth about parking BEHIND Mr. Swenzkowski per his statements?!! Hmmm, believe a witness who was not given a lie detector test, that we know of, or believe someone who WE KNOW passed a test?!
                                                                                                                            November 17/17


Lisa P. Email

                                                                                                                            November 17/17

People of OZ
(315) 701-0080 Lisa Peebles. Feel free to call her office.

                                                                                                                            November 17/17

Gary the Innocent Video utube


Please share this, it's Gary's song in a video.
Law, won't you let that free man go... Twenty years of himself on a sheriff's shelf, He's been murdered one day at a time. The key that she's held, still she lives with herself -- The truth lies behind those cold blue eyes. The call she made shook up decades Of giving up on hope and life A murderer stands next to me, next to you As we wait in the grocery line. Law, won't you let that free man go. Law, won't you let that free man go. Way down in Oswego County Somebody done collected his bounty. Law, won't you let that free man go. His case was sealed from an inside deal He was sleeping away in his cell. They buried his sisters, mother, and wife, Insisting a personal hell. Will the truth be told from the ones who know Or the ones who have brushed it away. Pry back the boards and show us all toward The free man walking away.Law, won't you let that free man go. Law, won't you let that free man go. Free of guilt but still in prison, Hope of truth this mornin' risen. Law, won't you let that free man go. Law, won't you let that free man go. Law, won't you let that free man go. Free that man that's been forsaken Give him back the life we've taken. Law, won't you let that free man go.
                                                                                                                            November 17/17

No one knows what to believe. The FBI has had 4 years to help this case. To bring charges against them. Instead they are focused on Doyle. If Gary dies. I'm sure the suspects are praying to God he does. They will walk Scott free. Totally disgusting. Oakes claims to be a man of God, Greg will be one of the ones he says Go away. I do not know you. He is nothing more than a criminal for obstructing justice.
                                                                                                                            November 17/17

Jennifer Wescott was given immunity from prosecution for lying on her police statements....Would all deals be off if the Feds charge her with perjury for lying under oath, in a Court of Law?
                                                                                                                            November 17/17

Keystone Pipeline Leaks 5,000 Barrels Of Oil In South Dakota, TransCanada Says

                                                                                                                            November 17/17


Old Chevy C-10 Light blue van with dark blue doors on Route 3
I didn't get a picture driving by, but it is on Google Maps - taken Oct. 2013
There's a light blue Chevy C-10 van on State Route 3 in between Pulaski and Mexico - with dark blue doors - parked on a side lawn of a property in between Pulaski and Mexico on State Route 3 van before them. Not too many of them that look similar to RT's around, especially in Oswego County. . You can easily see it from the road. It's on the left-hand side if you're heading west (toward Mexico). It looks to be around the same year as RT's, but more closely matches the description of some witnesses. It would be interesting to see who the property owner is or who owned the before them. Not too many of them that look similar to RT's around, especially in Oswego County.
I didn't get a picture driving by, but it is on Google Maps - taken Oct. 2013

                                                                                                                            November 16/17

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
To re to me.....

If someone didn't call in for a sandwich then they got it just before HA was taken. HAD to be after 7:42 am after Richard was seen leaving ALONE!!! ( last customer but not the last one to see her alive)

Can anyone find a statement from anyone, including the OCSD that doesn't seem suspicious or looks like a lie?
Does anyone really think the FBI believes any of this child like lies and a Person there at the time of crime but didn't see anything. If Swenkowski was there and saw Richard, then the 7:42 am time is correct...has to be.

Did the person who said he got a call that said "VanPatten ordered the hit" ever tell that to anyone on this case?

VanPatten said there was going to be a big bust and put a "girl" to be used into it. Were there any other female CIs at this time? Why would a cop shoot his mouth off about a bust..THAT NEVER HAPPENED!!!!!?????

Heidi was a CI and Oakes and any other LE, DA, lawyer that says she wasn't is a liar. But why lie? To cover up a unlawful arrest, sale of coke by "others", help those that took her get away with it? The only reason you got away with HA NOT being a CI is because Judge King made sure of it. Signed card, code name, picture, other cops testifying to it...but no she wasn't a CI.

I don't know how you got away with it but I will tell you that if anyone ever did that to me, they better move far away before I get out...this is disgusting and it doesn't even seem to bother you at all. But maybe the FBI can get states evidence if they investigate this joke of an investigation. DOES IT BOTHER YOU GUYS THAT A VERY IMPORTANT MAN WAS IN THE 2014 COURT ROOM AND WHAT HE SAID? Start Sweating.
                                                                                                                            November 16/17

Lisa Peebles
Would anyone know her direct email or if she has appointments available where Oz people can go to speak to her?
                                                                                                                            November 16/17

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
To re to me.....

If someone didn't call in for a sandwich then they got it just before HA was taken. HAD to be after 7:42 am after Richard was seen leaving ALONE!!! ( last customer but not the last one to see her alive)

Can anyone find a statement from anyone, including the OCSD that doesn't seem suspicious or looks like a lie?
Does anyone really think the FBI believes any of this child like lies and a Person there at the time of crime but didn't see anything. If Swenkowski was there and saw Richard, then the 7:42 am time is correct...has to be.

Did the person who said he got a call that said "VanPatten ordered the hit" ever tell that to anyone on this case?

VanPatten said there was going to be a big bust and put a "girl" to be used into it. Were there any other female CIs at this time? Why would a cop shoot his mouth off about a bust..THAT NEVER HAPPENED!!!!!?????

Heidi was a CI and Oakes and any other LE, DA, lawyer that says she wasn't is a liar. But why lie? To cover up a unlawful arrest, sale of coke by "others", help those that took her get away with it? The only reason you got away with HA NOT being a CI is because Judge King made sure of it. Signed card, code name, picture, other cops testifying to it...but no she wasn't a CI.

I don't know how you got away with it but I will tell you that if anyone ever did that to me, they better move far away before I get out...this is disgusting and it doesn't even seem to bother you at all. But maybe the FBI can get states evidence if they investigate this joke of an investigation. DOES IT BOTHER YOU GUYS THAT A VERY IMPORTANT MAN WAS IN THE 2014 COURT ROOM AND WHAT HE SAID? Start Sweating.
                                                                                                                            November 16/17







Today's Quote November 15/2017

Sometime in the future - 25, 50, 75 years hence -

what will the situation be like then? By that time the Chinese will have the capability of delivery too.
Curtis LeMay

Of Course!!
Yes it does make the Thibodeaus innocent.
Leo Richardson and his brother were once arrested for holding a girl against her will. Leo resigned from his position, his brother was found not guilty. SHERIFF TODD said when asked about why Leos brother still had his job at the Oswego Jail, that "he was found NOT GUILTY by a jury of his peers. There fore by law he is innocent." And would be keeping his position. I guess that belief to Todd is upheld if AND ONLY IF your a political or county employee. Because last I knew. Richard was found not guilty. Yet, Todd, still holds on to, NOT- things they missed but things they covered up. Because and only because they all broke the law to gain this conviction. Now it's protect their own asses, from criminal racketeering and RICO charges. So the more they lie, the better off they think they are. Problem is, back then, social media was not as popular and easy to access as it is now. Now a days being able to have easy access and to see all of the information. It's easy to see, that Richard and Gary were both railroaded, intentionally. Goes back to what Bohrer said,"When you have more questioms than you do answers your problems from within."
Sheriffs give the Thibodeau man back his van. It is not evidence, when it has been cleared by FBI, NOT ONCE, TWICE. The van doesn't even match the tire tracks seen in this photo. Notice the officer bent over. Compare the location of the van to the one given on Bivens map. Not the same location. Their own evidence doesn't match the van you stole from Richard. Cough it up theifs.
Must be Sheriffs don't listen to anyone. Even Wescott told you. "I can't believe after 20 years I have to tell you there is another van." Oz Sheriff dept, simply is sending tax payers on a wild lying goose chase. They have for over 23 years.

                                                                                                                            November 15/17

Re: Gary Thibodeau.....Death of Common Sense
I don’t necessarily think the person the sandwich was made for “called” the order in. Anyhow, it is a FACT that Mrs. Duell AND Susan Allen testified that Heidi was scheduled to work on April 3, 1994. Note, also, that Mrs. Duell testified that the employee schedule was located on the bulletin board behind the counter? Certainly was not a “last minute filling-in” for the other clerk as some people make it sound. Look at the inside pictures of the D&W and one can clearly see that all a customer had to do was look and see the schedule for themselves. (Bohrer proclaims to be a regular but, conveniently, Mrs. Duell testified at the Hearing that she didn’t recognize him. NOO Duh when one sees the person 20+ years later and not shown a picture from the correct time period. Right, Pietroski?

Interesting enough, Mrs. Granger says in her statement that Mr. Stinson told her that he knew the clerk was Heidi. Mrs. Granger questioned “How did he know it was Heidi” if he didn’t see who the clerk was. Also, Mr. Stinson told her, via her statement, that he went outside to look for the clerk but Mrs. Granger didn’t see footprints around the building. Both of Mrs. Granger’s statements (April 3, 1994 and July 14, 1994) are available at the Oswego County Clerk’s Office or they can be posted here.

Also ask oneself this, if Heidi was kidnapped after making the sandwich 1-Where is the register transaction for the sandwich? 2-Brett should have been able to identify the customer that bought it from photos the police should have taken because “every customer was a potential suspect” or from the customer, themself? 3-Wouldn’t Heidi have put the meat back ASAP after the ham sandwich was made? 4-Bohrer says in his notes that Heidi made his sandwiches good….what kind? Did LE ever think of asking him that? Probably not. 5-What time did Brett REALLY leave the store?

Dodd, I have a main question for you….How can you effectively, unbiasedly, truthfully Judge another prosecutor or defender knowing the dastardly, underhanded, unethical games you played in your ADA/DA tenure? You, sir (and I don’t mean respectfully), should be number one behind bars. Interesting on some of your cross of Defense witnesses and the deputies, it sounded like you were on the defense….we know there are tire marks (that don’t match Richard’s van) but do you know when they were made….do you know the condition of the van on blah day or blah day….sometimes family, friends and loved ones don’t know someone like they think….Where are YOUR FACTS and PROOF that Gary was doing something other than what he and his alibi witness testified to? Mrs. Rain is not seeking another term…may behoove Oakes to follow suite. Get someone with integrity and ethics to prosecute on behalf of “The People”!!
                                                                                                                            November 15/17

J-Oakes & Sheriffs soon to look like further fools. Lie detector tests and results in the works for Lisa witnesses. When they pass, it'll infuriate the majority. Good luck Oakes. You will need it. New show coming this ones moving fast to save Gary. When results hit. Hope Oakes goes n buries his head in the sand. He deserves, another hard slap.
                                                                                                                            November 15/17


Time stood still for Heidi Allen
From the article, "Time Stands Still for Heidi": Later, while detectives combed the convenience store and surrounding fields,DUELL WOULD NOTICE THAT THE CLOCK WAS STILL ONE HOUR BEHIND. TIME HAD STOPPED FOR HEIDI.

From the article, " Emotional Testimony Offered" : The cash register detail tape was marked as evidence; Duell made not on a copy of it describing what the codes mean and what each transaction had entailed. She and Curtis had also checked the accuracy of the cash register's clock which HEIDI HAD JUST SET THAT MORNING TO DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME.

                                                                                                                            November 15/17



Mrs. Duell testified about the register tape, items purchased and time...??
It strikes me as odd that "The time had to be entered into the memory of the cash register. (Tr. 1488)."

Could it be possible that the register tape was...manipulated when the deputy went back on August 11, 1994 to get the register tape from April 2, 1994? Mrs. Duell's OCSD file was tampered with on August 12, 1994.



Sorry people….those who don’t believe Richard Thibodeau even though he passed a lie detector test given by the Oswego County Sheriff’s. **No disrespect, you really think he could fool a lie detector test? He was the cooperative one…agreeing to the search of his van and giving DNA samples, etc I’d say he was one heck of a confident person that they wouldn’t find anything….because….he didn’t kidnap Heidi, he didn’t help to kidnap Heidi!!**

It Is a fact that he told law enforcement twice, on April 3, 1994 and April 9, 1994 that he paid with 4 $1 bills. In my math book, the cash register should have said one dollar less had Richard actually made that transaction at that time.

BS-“good arrest, good conviction”. Dodd’s theory is they acted together. Did you even read Richard’s statement, Todd? Probably not with your “limited involvement” in the investigation. The burning and burying on Gary’s property didn’t work out for you. The rolled item taken into the woods didn’t work out for you.
                                                                                                                            November 14/17

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Re: Another Unusual Reply

I posted that on a while back and thought about MB and maybe he called to order a sandwhich
to see who was there. Who orders a sandwich at 6am? Did Bret hear the phone ring? Was the sandwich for herself? They missed a lot didn't they.

Another thing that bothered me was Stinson said Heidi was setting the cash register to the wall clock and it was distorted. I've never been in there in 1994 so I didn't know if there was a clock on the wall. But I did see a clock over the counter but she couldn't see it from the cash I was wondering about that also with the other 22k other things in this case.

Funny how many "leads" we the readers have found. Spacecube on is a great source, she/he has read the trial transcript and really knows a lot.

Also to the person that posted about Richard taking HA back to the store and the snitches said she wasn't there, wouldn't that make them innocent? But they lied because Swenkowski and Richard were there at the same time and both saw her...BUT STINSON DIDN"T???? Still bothers the hell out of me but I am not accusing him of any crime...just can't get past it.

You have info please post and keep it private if you are scared, or send it to Lisa P. Please, it's been to far gone with this case and the "FACTS".

We must hope for an FBI investigation and I think there may be one as that GUY in court in 2014...who was he, why was he there and what do they know or suspect. Hope there is an H-BOMB coming to Oswego County.
                                                                                                                            November 14/17

Police Blotter
On 11/9/17 at 9:30 p.m., Roger L. Breckenridge, 49, of 410 W. Embargo St., Rome, was arrested based on a Bench Warrant issued out of Oswego County Court.
Mr. Breckenridge was remanded to the OCJ to await Oswego County Court in session.
                                                                                                                            November 14/17



Another Unusual fact
We know Bohrer would have Heidi make him sandwiches. That is a fact in this. What is it Stitson describes seeing left in the deli area?? Meat on the slicer. What is it. Heidi was doing inside the store the very moment she was taken? Where was she really standing? Was her back at any point to either entrance? Possibility she never saw it coming. Did someone order a sandwich to distract her? Lots of questions. Most employees do not leave a slab of meat on the slicer. Its typically put back where it can stay cool. It's logical to believe. Someone came in, asking for asandwich.
Here's the proof
If someone distracted Heidi, by the slicer in these photos. In order to operate the slicer. She would have her back to the entrance. Notice the entrance right behind where she would have been located. Where and when is there ever fresh meat left, untouched on any slicer? In April 3, 1994 there was. Was she interrupted in the middle of slicing meat for a Sandwhich? Or was she standing directly in front by the cash register. In both positions, the entrance is behind her.



                                                                                                                            November 13/17





Where Is Heidi …. Follow The Money
I don’t know if this has been addressed here or not but why, in the middle of suspected crime scene, did the Sheriffs investigators let the owner of the store take the money from the cash register? The store opened at what 5:00 AM and Heidi goes missing around 7:30? So in 1994 there could have been what $150 - $200 to open and in the we hours of Easter Sunday morning they may have sold another $150 - $200 worth of gas, cigs and newspapers? What possible excuse could there have been for taking possible evidence from a suspected crime scene without it having been tagged, bagged or fingerprinted? I want to here Maurice “are you out of your ever lovin” explain that one.
                                                                                                                            November 12/17

Usual Facts lol


Does anyone find it unusual if you were to take out Richard or Gary Thibodeau. The distraction. Cross off all lies, or anywhere their names come up. Exclude them as suspects. What is left. Unusual facts.
Fact -Bohrer ran down the road screaming on the phone, to the sheriff's. "I know what happened to Heidi. Call Bobby Wheeler." Connection 1, Bobby Wheeler being known and requested by Michael Bohrer. Funny how Bohrer knew Robert Wheeler by his nickname.
Fact - it is documented in the Sheriffs own writing. Gram Breckenridge had made a comment," That she knew where Heidi was buried but couldn't tell anyone." Rogers own family has a secret.
Fact- Trudy the psychic Bohrer was driving around with. Was once married to officer Lortie. Another connection. Or just a simple fact. That Bohrer is driving around with a huge connection to Officer Lortie.
Fact- Breckinridge and Maynes were making comments of involvement.
Fact-Bohrer met with FBI in 95, was listed as a person of interest.
Fact-They used the idea because Gary and Richard helped search. They must be guilty. Facts, documents, photos show. Dan Barney, David Maynes, Brett Law, Mrs. Kris Duell, partial store owner are all through the old news and helped search for Heidi Allen.
Fact - Sheriffs noted and stated all doors the customers used were unlocked. Oakes suggest only the one was. Which ones lying Oakes or the Sheriffs.
Fact-Sheriff Nellis stated in 94, Gary was arrested because he matched the one who had grabbed Heidi. But Sheriff Todd testified Gary matched the eye witness as a driver. So which ones lying?
Fact - The sheriff's did deny help of 120 investigators from across the state. Denied the help. Then Cuomo sends over 200 national guard and volunteers.
Fact-Kris Duells file was tampered with prior to Gary's trial. She also helped man the search areas. Is this why Rice Road was never searched.
Fact-Several days in to the kidnapping Sheriffs said there was no proof a crime was ever committed and ended the on foot searches.
Fact-Heidi family flew in Benningfield. Benningfield sends request for searches. Thus bringing up the problem. About the then lie, they never denied help.
Fact-Bohrer David Maynes snuck on Gary Thibodeau property at 2 am. He was arrested. His excuse, he wanted to make sure the cops didn't plant anything. Is what he told reporters. What he told police was he was checking on the dog.
Fact-Reporters caught the Sheriffs pulling a shovel with human tissue on it from an investigators vehicle. When asked why they had it. They declined to respond. Smh..maybe Maynes knew Gary didn't do it, cause he did. Knew these cops would plant evidence.?
Fact-They there are to many actual facts in this. To many, unusual coindencences with all the same names. When you minus out either Thibodeau brother. You can clearly see, something's wrong. How Ironic all those same names that were named in 94, 95, reports, news, interviews, so on, are in play once again. Ask yourself. What are the chances. One in a million. An officer once said it best. " To many coincidences equal guilt."
                                                                                                                            November 12/17

The Innocent in the land of OZ
They don't believe in FBI, that's obvious. They truly think no ones paying attention. Sorry to tell them. They have been implimented 4 years ago. Every move they've made, every lie they've told has been documented. Their clock will someday not tick. The man in court. Was making fun of them. He has far more power than any sheriff with a toy badge. He saw straight through them. One comment he made. "This isn't the first time he was called to OZ." If you ask any of the ones sworn to protect you from OZ, they wouldn't believe their names on any FBI LIST. Sorry to pop their little lying bubble. But there names were given by many. I do not doubt the claims coke was being sold out of any dept up there or by any cops there in OZ, Bohrer use to meet Mr. Bobby Wheeler right across from Medspar, maybe Bobby needs a physical and should tell the truth, before its to late for him. He was spotted repeated times in his black dark tinted window car, parked across from Medspar, with good ol Bohrer hanging from the driver side window. Is that why Bobby, Bohrer says 2 things that should spark anyone. "An officer showing cocaine symptoms on the stand (must be Bohrer was in Gary's court room), that wheelers business is no good." When I personally was asked, who wheeler may be. First response was Bobby. Bobby has always been dirty. That is not something he could seem to hide at all, ever. For the good Sheriffs to put blinders on. God forgive them, they to have a nice spot in Hell, a long with Oakes, Moody, Todd and Dodd. Here's a hint Sheriffs. Many are coming for you. Times passing. In the end, your clock will stop with feds, few dozen cuffs. Do you truly think messing with a justice dept employee Lisa was going to get you anywhere, it won't. Court order comes in, it'll take from what I am told 6 hours to round you all up. Cowboy FEDS vs cop wanna bees, which ones going to win? Here Oakes a tad bit of a hint. Go pull files on East Coast resorts another coke drop off place. Ask campers from the 90's what Bohrer buddy Fabian was flying in and landing on the water, ask them you worth less DA what it is they saw. Fabian also walked away from Murder charges. How convient. I'll give you one hint. It goes up your nose. You might want to check Wheelers nose, find out why he shows signs of drug use.
                                                                                                                            November 11/17

Vanpatten corrupt to the core
I once received a phone call. From someone who helped move the van, he screamed, "Vanpatten ordered the hit on Heidi." That I do not doubt. Vanpatten is knee deep in this. He is the main problem. Notice he is no where to be found. Hiding just like the Sheriff. Vanpatten everyone is well aware you are also knee deep in to the drug field. Funny how that all works for you. How is your buddy Leo Richardson, the fella who was also arrested for holding a girl against their will? Whom owned the bar your corrupt ass rated Heidi out at? The bar known as a drug bar. Vanpatten you truly think no one really knows. Many do. Some have made calls about you. Cuffs, a jump suit and some feds, will bring pure justice. Only then, will Heidi and anyone you have ever hurt get justice. When that day comes. Many will cheer FEDS on.
                                                                                                                            November 11/17


Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
To: Theories up the ass and last witness.

this what I think too. This case has so many holes, you could walk thru it. Loved both of your posts.
Problem is when the Judge, DA and cops are all trying to cover up a bad arrest and conviction it's hard to uncover and get what you want....BUT NOT FOR THE FBI!!!

Nothing in this case makes sense except that LE wanted a quick arrest to put an end to this and not to get themselves in trouble. One poster said a few weeks ago that a retired cop told him that coke was being sold out of the OPD...true? Who knows but I've heard the same thing.

Find the old Peeled Onion blog and read Mrs. Granger's statements when she arrived at the store....

Is that why Mrs. Granger's statements were stamped late?

Face it fellas, the only hope you have for not going to prison is if the FBI or the DOJ or the NYS atty's office doesn't do a full investigation. Only a child would believe any of this investigation was done without corruption.


Does Jenn Westcott feel like an ignored woman after she spilled he guts to the OCSD inv. and nothing was done about it? She told you what happened and you sat there and ignored it. Would you please respond and let us know why?
                                                                                                                            November 10/17

Theories up the ASS
One theory was Gary and Richard picked Heidi up. Went to Gary's. Gary and Heidi enter the woods. Start arguing, Gary then hits her in the head with a shovel. They then bring Heidi back to the store. Richard forgets his smokes. Upon returning Heidi is missing. Per Baldasaro theory. So who took Heidi after being dropped off?

Second Theory is a witness saw Gary and Richard carry something rolled up and taken in the woods. So if she's rolled up in something and taken in the woods. Then apparently Heidi was never dropped off back at the store, per Baldasaros claims.

Third theory they couldn't have carried her off in any woods if Gary was then blamed for burning her remains in his wood stove and then burying her on his property.
So, some how she removed herself from the store. After coming back from Garys, was then carried off inside a rolled up item, taken in to the woods. Then burned in a stove that sat right beside Gary's home, later to be buried on his property. Quite a series of theories. But these aren't all.

The fourth is opportunity. Crime of passion per Sheriffs comments on Dateline. In turn it contradicts Baldasaro the jail house snitch, who says Richard and Gary planned to meet with Heidi to talk to her.

Opportunity is never a planned event. That’s probably why the Sheriff himself has learned to shut up. "There are no cabins there never were.", " James Steens not a bad guy.",..the Sheriff and it's offices look like morons. No Sheriff the only one out of their ever loving minds are those supporting this conviction and any if you corrupt officials. Due to political status, job title, you name it, it doesn't matter. Right is right "Sheriffs" and this is all wrong. If they support you. Their IQ, can't be to high. There is a point. Bad cops, make them all look corrupt.
                                                                                                                            November 8-9/17

Bobby Baldasaro
Has anyone besides Dodd seen the notes about Bobby?

HHmmm. A report from Florida probation says they recommend that his probation be revoked and "2 years community control for closer supervision". Notes show that a governors warrant was issued for him. They were going to hold him up in MA so he can testify in NY "then we can justify putting him back on probation". What? He got probation for testifying in NY.

Damn, and I thought it was testified to that neither inmate received any benefit for testifying.?!

It's all in black and white...Bobby did.
                                                                                                                            November 7/17

Heidi Allen
It is refreshing after all this time to see your readers are getting closer, the post that stated the officer did this and that. the same officer that was infatuated with this new young informer, who lost her card at the same place she was taken from, find out who got her the job. could it be the same officer that happened to pass by that morning and was flagged down, fits the FBI profile, who manipulated the investigation toward the two brothers or others near by.
                                                                                                                            November 7/17

Here are some more Facts that Oakes and the Leos seem to by pass.

Fact - the same officer whom exposed Heidi is one who met with Richard Thibodeau.
Fact - The same officer exposed her twice, not once as Oakes and Sheriff like to think.
Fact - This officer knew Mensch, whom is great buddies to Dan Barney
Fact - This officer exposed Heidi to Mensch.
Fact - Heidi then vanished.
Fact - They hid all info on Bohrer even though FBI took his statement in 95 and he was listed as a suspicious person
Fact - Dan Barney was real probable suspect
Fact - Store owners file was breached prior to Gary's original trial
Fact - They with held the suspect list
Fact - They with held CI card, per Terry Whipple testimony, "I can not give to defense what was not given to me."
Fact- Gary, nor Sharon ever went to Mass, per Sheriff own testimony and paperwork of them detailing Gary's Cadillac in his driveway the night of April 3, 1994.
Fact - The Sheriff dept and the DA office are habitual liars.
Fact - The higher powers in OZ, have no idea, all eyes from higher authority have watched every move they have made for 4 years for a reason.
Fact - Officer Petrowski disposed of, stole or has hidden evidence. Just may have been caught by higher authority, than himself.
Fact- citizens were complaining even DA Oakes went around spewing an entirely new theory about Gary throwing Heidi remains off a cliff in MASS, even though evidence shows Gary was in OZ, NY.
Fact Greg seems to believe the words only from Baldasaro, but clearly bypasses the suspects own admissions.
Fact everyone but Baldasaro to Oakes is hear say. Even though it's a fact Baldasaro in the Sheriffs papers claims he heard everything from a man named chicken.
Fact- Chicken tells the Sheriffs. He hears nothing from Gary. Is that why Chicken wasn't called to testify.
Fact That Donald Dodd is a dirty ass DA, and Oakes is right on Dodds heels.
                                                                                                                            November 6/17

Heidi Allen case
I wish that someone would do an entirely factual story from front to back on how the brothers became suspect and one was convicted and the other acquitted. There is so much available for the public to get the facts about.

Juries get it wrong often and that’s why there have been so many people let go over the past 10 years, and more. Mostly because of false convictions due to shoddy DNA testing but others from misidentification and prosecutors who “coach” their witnesses into saying what they think the jury wants to hear to convict.

Didn’t Dodd say during the Hearing that all documents had two stamps and a green mark? Well, where’s those on Mrs. Granger’s statements? “All documents were handled the same.” I think not. Or did you mean only the documents YOU wanted handled that way. Was Mrs. Granger’s statements one of those documents which you wouldn’t say what it was that you weren’t turning over?

Are most prosecutors ego-maniacs?
                                                                                                                            November 3/17

Brenda Rice....Really
Brenda Rice is Oswego City's version of Howie Hawkins. Runs every couple of years and nobody is going to take her serious. Two minutes of talking to her on the front porch is enough exposure for a couple of years.
Hang it up Brenda...your mouth alone will defeat you.
                                                                                                                            November 3/17

Lets Get To Know The Real NATE EMMONS
Lets get to know the real Nate Emmons...

Since being elected into office as an Alderman NATE EMMONS has done the following...

1. NATE EMMONS has voted YES to RAISE TAXES.. so his flyer "cutting out the fat" must have a different meaning to Nate Emmons

2. NATE EMMONS voted YES to lay off Fireman from The Oswego Fire Department

3. NATE EMMONS voted yes to layoff CSEA Employees



                                                                                                                            November 3/17



Brenda Rice
Three times the first ward elected someone else and they all were duds.
Maybe it is time for Brenda Rice.

                                                                                                                            November 3/17


Xpress Auto Care
Beware aware of the crew over at Xpress Auto Care as they are failing inspections on purpose. I was recently there and the crew are a bunch of young punks who lie and falsify documents. I told the crew I was going to report them to the owner and asked for the owners name but none of them claimed to know the owner (lies). After telling them I was going to report them to their boss they wanted to fight; no worries all the guys there weigh like 98 pounds. The main issue is they told me that my inspection failed do to the aliment of my car and I bought my car from a dealer less than a year ago and the car is like brand new; I was also told by other inspection places that it was obvious that they ripped me off as most don't inspect for aliment. Everyone beware and to the owner, you never called me so this is what you have to deal with now!

                                                                                                                            November 3/17

Past Witness
As far as Appeal and Dodd's or OCSD's credibility in discovery....Why does Pat Granger's first statement made on April 3, 1994 have a Received by Oswego County Sheriff's Dept. stamp on July 21, 1995? Her second statement was made on July 14, 1995. That was after Gary's trial already started. Is it proper to stamp "received" 15 months after the statement was taken?

**Head slap** This is OCSD who allows their deputies to write reports 2 years after an incident related to Heidi.
                                                                                                                            November 2/17


Death to common sense
Look closer at the Sheriffs time line.
4:19 a.m., someone arrived two hours prior to Heidi and turned the register on. Who, why and did they also exit the building. Sheriffs have, Heidi, Mr. S, Richard and Mr. Stitson all on the scene at the same time. Impossible. Their time lines a joke. Their investigation should not have started at the time Heidi turned on the cash register at 6 am, but at 4:19 am, I am certain the owners of the store should be able to explain who accessed the store prior to Heidi, who had a key and why were they there. No ones paying any attention to the fact the store had a visitor that obviously had access to store keys, cash register keys two hours prior to Heidi. The State police just slapped the shit out of the Sheriffs by saying we do not arrest on pure speculation and we work with FBI. SHERIFFS arrest on speculation, they refuse to work with FBI, the dept is a joke, ransacked by corrupt officials. That's reality.
                                                                                                                            October 31/17

Gary Thibodeau.....The Death Of Common Sense
Still wondering about all the loose ends in this case (easily found) and the real big one is the time lines at the store.

Stinson (not accusing him of any crime) said he was there at 7:38 after a deputy and himself timed his route and he found out his watch was 3 minutes slower than he thought.

Richard and Swenkowski got there a 7:41.

If Stinson got there 3 minutes before Richard and Swenkowski, why didn't he go into the store? Why did he wait 4 minutes to do so. Had to be after 7:42 per OCSD time of kidnapping by Richard and Gary because Stinson said he did NOT see, just how the hell could this ACTUALLY, factually and really have happened like this???

And he said he did not see anyone or any vehicles there, but Swenkowski did , Richard did, they both saw Heidi, but Stinson said he didn't see Heidi. Swenkowski testified that he saw Richard leave the store ALONE. But still Stinson said he saw nothing and then entered the store, and no Heidi.

HOW COULD THIS HAVE HAPPENED???? And was this addressed in the grand jury or the first trial. See people it is impossible for Richard and Gary (who was not seen there, by ANYONE) to commit this crime.

I know what my opinion is, what's yours?
                                                                                                                            October 30/17


RE: So what's up with this jeep and wagon business? Wouldn't that be considered theft of services? A lot of questions to be answered.

When Kells took a trailer from the citys old equipment and had the DPW fix it up there is nothing wrong with that. When he had it delivered to his house to be used for his Halloween hayride then it became theft of city equipment.

When he took a Jeep from the city impound lot had the mechanics fix it up filled it with gas at the city pumps and then delivered to his house to pull the hay wagon that was theft of services, theft of gasoline and grand theft auto.

The mayor knew and so did the police chief.

                                                                                                                              October 30/17



The FBI profiler said that the person that abducted Heidi Allen would be someone obsessed with the case and someone that would try and involve them self in the investigation. That fits two people I can think of Michale Boher and Lisa Buske.
                                                                                                                            October 24/17

I to hope it's their turn...

                                                                                                                            October 23/17

Deadline: Crime with Tamron Hall "The Vanishing Clerk"
I watched. One of the most noteworthy quotes from the show was when Lisa Buske, Heidi's sister, said that one can't form an opinion simply from reading the news. I believe she was referring to the recent revelations however, I'd like to take it back to 1994/1995 when the jurors spoke anonymously after the verdict. They, or only one, commented such as "they made the van move", we didn't believe Gary's alibi because "we thought she was trying to protect her man", "they must of had plastic in the van". Forming a personal opinion about the defense witness/es. Specifically, that Richard's (Teresa) elderly family members testified about his alibi but was having a difficult time remembering a timeline without opining the same for the eyewitness who was much younger that "I don't recall" often when questioned by the Defense. Facts via witness testimony show that it was impossible for the van to have moved the way it did in the time period testified to. Gary's alibi was acquitted of lying but not until after Gary's conviction. There was no evidence via testimony that suggested there was plastic in the van. If that's what the jurors based their verdict on, their own possible theories, they are just as wrong in their decision as the DA is for continuing to punish Gary "The Innocent" Thibodeau. ALL the theories of how Gary and Richard could have committed the crime of kidnapping Heidi have been debunked. She wasn't burned and buried on Gary's property as the inmates testified to as evidenced by no DNA evidence or any link by the FBI. The taking Heidi to MA in the Caddy theory was debunked by proof via Gary's alibis' charges for perjury relating to going to MA being dismissed and no evidence that the rolled rug, or whatever was claimed in the show, having any link to Heidi. No surprise that Lisa B. gave up hope on finding Heidi alive after 10 years when the DA claims that Gary and Richard "brought her to a place never to be found". "We just know they did it but can't tell you how, why or where". That's Justice? For Heidi's or Gary's family? Justice would be following up more stringently on the "boasters" because at the very least 3 cadaver dogs indicated in an area similar to where one of them claimed to have taken Heidi's body and the Fact that Jennifer Wescott failed her lie detector test and then went for another interview with the DA present and was recorded saying what she knows. And, IMPORTANTLY, Richard and Gary both passed lie detector tests. Richard-just 6 days after Heidi disappeared and Gary-a year or so later after the conviction. Why wasn't Gary given one by the Sheriff's before his arrest?
                                                                                                                            October 23/17


Even Juors didn't care
Is this what Lisa Buske is defending a case with no evidence not a drop. A case where the jurors were taking naps and reporters not only witnessed this, they wrote about it, in between naps LISA BUSKE they asked for a case of beer. Your sisters case has been nothing more than a joke. Fight away Lisa til you die, your fighting nothing. You've ALLOWED this along with your family.
                                                                                                                            October 22/17

Lisa Buske
What is it Lisa has done to actually fight for her sister? Not a damn thing. She's done nothing but pamper those who created this mess. While helping hinder an investigation. She's nothing more than a direct road block to the truth to what happened to Heidi. I'll tell you Lisa no one will help you any further. You are the reason no one else will come forward. You support the DA claiming your sisters a druggie and your Aunts a LIAR. Great support for your sister. One person of higher statue said it the best. Lisa you are simply not smart enough to figure out you have been fooled. Keep supporting them. Lisa why not tell the truly good folks of Oswego about your bull shit even with Dateline. Walking off the set when asked if you or Heidi were druggies. But yet support the DA DODD WHO CLAIMS YOUR SISTERS A DAMN DRUGGIE. YOU MAKE NO SENSE. NONE. Eventually even all your lies are going to come out. Then Lisa every one will know exactly who you are. A me,me, me type person. Not once have you ever truly helped your sister in any way. Not once since this entire thing began have you even met any of the witnesses only slammed anyone trying to help Heidi. Karma Lisa will come your way. SO quit asking anyone for help. Most people know your a self centered me, me, me type person that had no real relationship with Heidi. You are a fool, and a out right fake.
                                                                                                                            October 21/17


                                                                                                                 October 16/17Anne Bronte




secrets of the inner workings at the DPW.
We the employees for the city of Oswego DPW. Are instructed to dump our waste from our Vector truck (sewer vacuum) not all storm runoff sometimes sewage is involved. We are instructed to go up to the east side Reservoir behind the mental health facility and dump our thousand gallon tanks on the trucks in the woods. Somebody with the know-how and big enough balls needs to go up there and take a soil sample. I really don't think this activity is legal. But from the corruption and crazy things I have been seen happen around town, I would not know where to start you can't call the police because they have an agreement to immediately call mr. Kells if it's a city issue. I have witnessed that myself at my residence. With the discussion of Sergeant Berger stating mr. Kells has never been issued a badge. then why did one of your young rookie officers override my request to make a report to Oswego PD. And denied me that right. Is there anyone out there that can help.
                                                                                                                            October 15/17


The faces have changed but the city is right back to where it was when Gosuck and Dumbsmoor were running it.

Here's a good laugh.
Corruption at the DPW led by mr. Kells, just another bit of news to our taxpayers I bet you are not aware that Kells has an agreement with scriba we go out there and cut trees. With our tree truck chipper a supervisor his pickup truck and normally one more vehicle to carry guys roughly up to eight guys go on these Journeys to scriba. I've been on 5 of the trips myself, this is been going on since Kells took office. Is it just me or has any other taxpayers seen scriba DPW in the city limits working off the trade agreement of the tree removals. I have never witnessed scriba in our city doing anything. Oswego city DPW has spent a lot of money out in the town of scriba !!
                                                                                                                            October 13/17

Racetrack IDA Corruption
The track is owned by Oswego IDA/Operation Oswego who are running an illegal slush fund, revolving loans to each other. Tom Kells DPW commissioner with zero qualifications is a recent board member. This is the connection to much of the corruption between Oswego and NY State. And Kells orders the OPD to stand down on every complaint.


                                                                                                                            October 11/17

County of Oswego IDA
· Established an unauthorized revolving loan program, using its own funds, to finance a portion of the cost of projects. The IDA had 90 loans outstanding as of May 31, 2014, totaling nearly $9.6 million that were financed by its own funds.
· There is no formal process to compare current and projected jobs at the time of application to the reported number of jobs actually created and retained.
· Auditors found 31 companies that received loans only created half of the jobs they said they would create.

                                                                                                                            October 11/17



Re: Free Water
Let's see now…
There's a City of Oswego fire hydrant, hooked up with what appears to be a brand new fire hose supplying “FREE WATER” to the Oswego speedway.
Question’s; a) Where did the hose come from? b) Who was responsible for hooking it up? (Who authorized this?)
NOW! There just happen to the “Official Safety Truck” from “Safety Solutions” Parked on an off this past weekend at the west side fire station. (Solves where the city owned fire hose came from.)
But more questions’: Who owns the truck? And is it an Oswego City fireman? Just have to check the “duty roster” and fined out who was working this weekend…
Then fire Oswego DPW Commissioner Tom Kells and whoever hooked up that fire hose to the hydrant.

                                                                                                                            October 10/17



Re: FYI...Oswego Speedway Water Draw Free Water

That's an expensive piece of city owned hardware lying on the ground. It's a wonder that someone didn't run over it? Trucks pulling campers, big rigs, dark at night, or stole it? And if a fire had broke out in the city and the fire dept. needed that valve... been hell to pay.

                                                                                                                            October 10/17

More on OZ Speedway
Just read the news article on the ownership and promoters that are getting million dollar handouts from the Guv Cuomo for this Super Dirt Week event that claims to draw 70,000 tourists to OZ when in fact the facility can only seat 5,000.

As it goes the promoters and speedway owners have out of state business addresses that happen to be income tax free from taxes. So tax payer money is going across state lines and not back in the community.

Kells and the people that are city workers need to go to jail for there actions of double dipping and giving the speedway free handouts at the expense of senior tax payers getting shafted for these increases to subsidize others pockets.

How bad can it get?

So, after reading all the apparently factual info on the water stealing at the speedway, the Board of Education actions, Port Authority being mismanaged, the disappearing soybeans, the most well known area bank not being responsible with tracking missing receipts and financial responsibilities connected to this,, the whole DPW debacle, misuse of funds, resources, etc. The need to run misdeeds of city workers past Mr. Kells' when reporting a traffic infraction and dangerous driving experience to the Police Department... The OPD hand in hand with the DPW, school busses speeding through the city,. The new construction with questionable debris removal, without appropriate permits, safety features in place, hazmat issues, training issues, etc. These posts go on and on. Questionable mayoral campaign donation sources, apartments with prostitution running rampant....

Can anyone tell me...Where do these statements end up? Is it all a joke? Is all this a sick source of a type of entertainment? Or if true.... All just under the proverbial rug? Everything from- unsolved murders to stealing city resources and taxpayers money? If this is all factual, backed by tángible sources, facts, photos, and witnesses, how can these very public and well known incidences go uninvestigated? Why is there no official investigation or powers in place putting a stop to it, arrests, fines, or governmental interference and stops put in place? How bad can one city get before someone, something bigger and more powerful steps in?

                                                                                                                            October 10/17


If you will recall it took the State Police, FBI and US Attorney to get rid of the Gosek Mafia.

This bunch seems determined to out do them.





Today's Quote October 3/2017

Just because something doesn't do what you planned it to do doesn't mean it's useless.
Thomas A. Edison

Person Of Interest VANISHED
Michael Bohrer a person of interest in the disappearance of Heidi Allen has himself dropped off the radar. Bohrer who was arrested in relation to the abduction of another woman in another state testified at the 2014 Thibodeau hearing. While he had been seen since the hearing he seems to have completely vanished in the last 8-10 months. If anyone knows of his whereabouts send a message to this site.

                                                                                                                            October 3/17

Mr. Mayor and Mr. Kells
Is it true Mr . Kells that you watch your workers on GPS, instead of driving around, and surveying the work that has to be done ?
This is about you ,Mr Kells and your lack of construction and people skills. The mountain must be tall at your house, but you are three feet tall in mine !
I hope the new aldermen have more backbone than the out going bobble heads ! I guess siting around sucking coffee, is how they get there pat on the backs !
                                                                                                                            October 3/17


Today's  Quote September 14/2017

I believe that the way people live can be directed a little by architecture.
Tadao Ando

Donations "friends of Billy barlow"

                                                                                                                          September 13/17


Lest we forget Wheeler
What's that I read? At the pre-trial Hearing in 1995 Wheeler testified to not knowing that Gary was a suspect in MA? But...he received the warrant via fax in 1994 and the notes show he was at the brief on April 15, 1994 when Gary was named as prime suspect.

Now, why was nothing done about Wheeler's verifiable, blatant, proven lie under oath?



Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Does anyone think it was suspicious:.. that Jennifer Westcott didn't tell the inv. that she lied until after they told her the phone call was taped?

...that Oakes brought Tonya just to discredit her
...that Oakes said he didn't believe anything JW said but offered her (per JW) immunity
...that Oakes said he didn't believe Tonya but wouldn't give her a poly that she asked for
...that JW was just trying to appease her and get her of the phone. "I won't lie to ya"...JW to Tonya on the phone.
...that Oakes never mentioned that JW kid accidently hit Tonya's phone mumber
...that the whole phone call per OCSD may have been stagged. Yeah JW is going to put herself into a crime
..."I guess I was just confessing I had Heidi Allen in my house"...Jenn Westcott....remember she said she never lived there
...that JW said "I never said anything about them bringing her in a WHITE van...yes people sha said a WHITE van. The inv. then said "no, that isn't what you said".
...and then goes back and tells them that she was told what happened to HA.


The worst cover up since the JFK murder. Just read it, Swenkowski, Richard, Stinson, Bivens is all you need to read to know something fishy happened here and I dare any DA to PROVE this crime happened the way they said it did. IMPOSSIBLE ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE. You guys made a lot of mistakes.
                                                                                                                        August 30/17


December 8, 1994-Pre-trial motions which include request for discovery-the partial transcript page from Exhibit #28 of Oakes’ filing to the Motion to vacate says, “The Court: He doesn’t want to tell you what he’s holding back, Mr. Walsh.”
December 14,1994-Fahey went to inspect discovery material-
Viewed tapes, photos, etc…”a copy of the entire Oswego County Sheriff’s Department report relative to this criminal action”.
Why did this not include the bulk storage material from the search center? Those items were no less a part of “the entire OCSD report” to this criminal action? Had they been made available to Fahey on December 14, the CI index card would have been “found” then instead of May 1995.




                                                                                                                        August 29/17





Today's  Quote August 12/2017

Dreams will get you nowhere, a good kick in the pants will take you a long way.
Baltasar Gracian

It Begins
Garys appeal was granted permission to proceed.

                                                                                                                                  August 12/17

Cabin diggers




Moe says, “There are no cabins, trust me.” There never was.?

Coward…won’t publicly respond to being Wrong!

And, what’s up with taking a small excavator to the site After the ME completed their forensic examination? Look at Lt. Moskal’s affidavit #8.

BTW…Wasn’t Darron a prosecution witness? He built the “cabin”, aka “fort” for a youngster, and he testified that his grandfather, the landlord of 68 Rice Road would not live with his tenant in opposition to what D. Purdy testified to. Darron also testified that he would mow Purdy’s lawn and take care of their dog Because They Were Not At Their Residence. Trust Me…if one was at the Hearing, one would KNOW the testimony.

I believe the good people who have come forward, risking ridicule and naysayers, more than I believe LE who has proven time and time again to be fabricators and twisters of facts. Kudos to all who take that risk. Their information is invaluable to the Big Picture.

Thank you for posting on your site the Facts and Truth about a case that has riveted the community for 20+ years. We want the entire truth and we want Heidi found!!