September 21/2017


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Today's  Quote September 21/2017

When you are a mother, you are never really alone in your thoughts.

A mother always has to think twice, once for herself and once for her child.
Sophia Loren

Jimmy Kimmel takes on new health care bill, says Sen. Cassidy lied 'right to my face'

                                                                                                                          September 21/17

Trumps 3rd Wife and First Whore
Would somebody please tell whoever is putting Melina In front of a camera, to talk to the public, to please stop! She can not speak English for crap, and her delivery is terrible. She came to the United States in1996 from the Socialist Republic of Slovenia within Yugoslavia and hooked up with the Fat, Orange Man, marrying him 2005, and became a citizen in 2006 because she married an American. Every time she speaks in front of the camera, all I can see is the naked pictures of her kissing and fondling another naked woman.
Now they want to present her as a picture of virtuous wholesomeness and wants her speak to us, about what is right in America. Bullshit!
As far as I am concerned, she could be sent back to where she came form, as one of those undesirables that Trump wants to deport. She only married the Fat Orange Man for his money, so you know what that makes her.

Water Park
Where is this “ water Park “ to be constructed ? And what is the construction cost ( remember, prevailing rate, because that “ gift from cumo " ) was $ 10,000,000.00 million dollars and what are the hours , months, labor costs ,safety,`ambulance service on site, life guards, on site emergency , near the lake, rescue has to be in the water ! Who pays for that ? Is the fire dept. getting there hands into this taxpayer ( free money )payouts again?
This goes on and on ,and yet people get handed the b.s. line and THEY count on TAXPAYERS not to be informed.
                                                                                                                        September 21/17









Today's  Quote September 20/2017

If a person is treated like a patient, they are apt to act like one.
Frances Farmer

Nuclear Waste
It is time for the County Legislature to stop playing politics with Nile Point with P.I.L.O.T. agreements, which we have been screwed for years in unpaid taxes, and start holding the owners of the nukes feet to the fire. It is true that we will end up with the burden of the nuclear waste clean up, and disposal of, or the maintenance of the waste, and now is the time to build a fund, from those owners to cover the cost. For every pound of nuclear waste in inventory at those plants, the legislature should be assessing, at minimum, $1.00 per pound ($12,000,000 per year) for holding this toxic waste in Oswego County. This money should be held in a trust fund that can not be touched for any purpose, other than the clean up of this waste. After 20 years this fund would be in excess of $400 million with interest, and still would not be enough to cover the disposal costs.
The legislature should also send strong legislation to the state and the NRC. This should be in the form of a law suit, if a contract is not put in place to dispose of this waste at the owners expense, or for the NRC to bring action against those owners at the time of plant decommissioning.
Time for the County Legislature to do their jobs protecting the residents of Oswego County and our environment. If something is not done in the next year, it is time for a clean sweep of those legislators that are not working in the best interest of the people.
                                                                                                                        September 20/17


Fire ambulance
Saw the heros running around town in the ambulance again, I thought this thievery was supposed to end. And yes there is a tax paying ambulance service on Utica street that can do a better, cheaper job. You can say the ambulance makes money but I'm sure the associated hidden costs you are not told would prove it a money looser. And by the way I would much rather have my tax money go to fireman to put my house out,God forbid if it ever cought on fire instead of being in Syracuse on an ambulance.

Protect me please.
                                                                                                                        September 20/17







Today's  Quote September 19/2017

If only those who dream about Hollywood knew how difficult it all is.
Greta Garbo

Port Authority.
When you can not control what you are in charge of, and it gets out of control, one has to suffer the consequences, which includes being chastised by the social media. Loss of $16,000 for travel without receipts and the intability to control your inventory, with a loss of $1,000,000 leaves one exposed to justified criticism.
What was that Truman said; "the buck stops here"?
                                                                                                                        September 19/17

Mayor good, Fire department,well? Mayor Barlow I saw a picture of you in the Palladium Times newspaper with some people from blessing in a bag. This is a group which feeds many children in our school district that has an overwhelming amount are needy and hungry children. It is a awesome organization to donate time and money to.I do have one reservation though, you have said the ambulance is a burden on the tax payers,thanks for looking out for us. l would hope you cold possibly put this money toward the community and maybe let the new ambulance company handle running the ambulance. Keep up the good work on representing the residents.
                                                                                                                        September 19/17

Death of Common Sense
To add to yours. Lisa B says Heidi was a good kid. Well Donald Dodd begs to differ with that opinion. By claiming Heidi did coke with Gary. Why would she ever support ever, the DA making Heidid out to be a coke addict??? Can't be to good of a kid Lisa B. If thats the case. So which ones lying about Heidi, her sister or Donald Dodd.
                                                                                                                        September 19/17

Only in OZ
Investigator doesn’t turn over texts and citizens dig in an area that was possibly related to Heidi Allens remains…and then after 3 dogs indicate in the area, the DA publicly blames a reporter and former investigator AND OCSD brings in an excavator to dig AFTER the ME concluded their forensic dig.
“A smear campaign by the Defense”? No, Mr. Oakes, it’s your blatant bumbling and your own documentation why you’ve lost support in your fight to keep Gary in prison. “We” are not as stupid and gullible as you were hoping? When disinterested people take notice…this injustice CAN NOT continue.
Gary should be free because it was IMPOSSIBLE for him to have been involved. Likewise, you could not, and still can’t, PROVE that Richard committed the crime. Some other LE, along the way, should be in Gary’s place- Wheeler, Yerdon, Pietroski, Vanpatten, Todd.
                                                                                                                        September 19/17






Today's  Quote September 17/2017

“The true secret of happiness lies in taking a genuine interest in all the details of daily life.”
William Morris

Only in OZ
Only in Oz is it not illegal for an officer to tamper with evidence in a kidnapping case. But in the ajoining county. Its illegal for an firemen to tamper with evidence in a deadly hit n run. Go figure, only in OZ.
                                                                                                                        September 17/17

Nuclear Waste At Nine Mile Point
The Oswego County Legislature has been sitting on their hands for years regard the 6,000 metric tons of nuclear waste that is stored at Nine Mile Point and what should be done about it. That is over 12,000,000 pounds of nuclear waste that has a half life of 200,000 years.
These plants will be decommissioned in about 30 years, but there is no solution on how to get rid of the waste that sits at the site. Oswego county will be stuck with all this material and the people of Oswego County will be stuck with the cost of guarding this material, and if there is ever a solution, for it's disposal. Once these plants shut down, the cost of decommissioning them will fall on the owners, but they will walk away from the nuclear waste. There was a plan to send it to Yucca Mountain, and this has been rejected.
It is time for the county to hold the owners responsible for this waste. The county should charge them for every pound of material they have out there so there is a fund available when they do walk away from the plants.
Right now they are getting clean air credits from us (state tax payers) for millions of dollars every year by adding a $2.00 fee on everybody's bill, which was a Cuomo plan to keep the plants open. If the county legislature doesn't take action now, our kids will be stuck with the expense, and potential disaster that a leak of this radioactive material into the lake, could destroy our drinking water for hundreds of thousands of years.
                                                                                                                        September 17/17

Is it Time To Rename Some Streets and Water Ways
Glad to see building permits up .DPW, busy , and i think that they are doing a great job. They need the tools to do there job !
Just food for thought, the DPW has a great working personal, so how come the mayor of oswego, ny ,( and he appears to have some education ) hires some rental property owner, in stead of hiring a person with some background in math, english, and how to TREAT WORKERS with RESPECT! And also not to use taxpayers monies for his personal gain ( Mr. Kells, you were caught on tape down at the DPW ) You do realize Mr. Kells that it was stealing ! And Is this another hide and seek game the mayor and dpw thief are playing ?
At what point , or time, do some people learn how to steal ? When voters do not vote ?
                                                                                                                        September 17/17

I dedicate this box of rocks to OCLE

                                                                                                                        September 17/17








Today's  Quote September 16/2017

“The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson”
Franklin D. Roosevelt

Construction and Business Savay
A person that is put into construction, mechs. worker relations, hazmat materials recongiantion, proper disposal, worker training and safety, time sheets, and other things… should be professional, but Mr. Bell and Mr. Krell are not qualified to hold commercial positions in city, state, and fed positions !

So I guess a couple of DOG HOUSE BUILDERS are qualified, in the mayor’s eyes and in broadwell’s eyes, okay ! Must be another game being played out in the power of ROUND MOUTHS .

And why not ask, who was the inspector on the “ tim horton “ site that did not go twenty feet to remove any oil, storage, condiments from soil. and within two hundred feet of a water ? Another Broadwell dance ? After all, that would affect his property across the street, which could possibly be around ? 250,000.00 and a lot more !

The lying and incompetence I guess are the rules these B . S . jagoffs do to the ones that vote no, because, the ones that vote yes, will always vote in favor of there self interest. The Oswego City Schoolboard and City Hall prime examples ! And is it the same “ Bell “ that is on the Schoolboard, the same one that works for the city ?

Yep, Let’s hire so more B . S . artists, that way, when the taxes are due, hey may see up the paying options of going to McDonalds or BurgerKing ,… etc to vote and pay our taxes ! Heck, might even get a free drink !
                                                                                                                        September 16/17

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Now that it is nearly over and a man will die in prison, unless they change their minds, it looks like another ploy to make Gary look guilty by not releasing know, " a guy that did this deserves it" attitude. Also get the ppl on their side.

But I wonder if the fact that Oakes lied about MA, Wheeler close to perjury in Grand Jury, Jenn Westcott spilling her guts, Swenkowski testifying that he saw Richard leave alone. No witnesses saw Gary there...(Bivens) if he was even there and a host of hints that a cover up happened, will anyone take a look at this case and prove what was done by the LE to convict and cover up a crime to "get" the man?

"of course we trust our law enforcement and our DA"....Lisa B. Can't believe that with all that has been written and confessed to, scrutinized, questioned (Oakes told Lisa P. he has doubts about the integrity of the OCSD investigation...which will help him keep his job) that this is such a lousy job of covering up a bad arrest and a worse conviction. KIND OF MAKES YOU WONDER WHO THE COPS ARE AND WHO THE CONVICTS ARE.

PS: the Oswego County Airport is still open at 4 AM guys...everyone and I mean everyone knew what was happening except Todd. Like that "important guy in the 2014 court room said.."who do you think you're kidding Oswego?" If there were ANY solid evidence except for a DA fooling a jury, witnesses changing their minds, Westcott spilling the beans, 3 bragging about doing it I might have my doubts....but there is not and never will be.

Well at least I don't have to worry the next 20 years about someone cracking this case wide open and all those guilty ...go to prison.

Todd on Dateline you said they went their to buy cigarettes, but there isn't any transaction on the register for Gary buying any...why not? I doubt Gary got up at 6:30 am just to watch his brother buy cigarettes. I hope I run into you so I can laugh right in your face!
HERE'S WISHING YOU THE WORST! Good arrest, good front of America on TV.
                                                                                                                        September 16/17








Today's  Quote September 15/2017

Most people do not really want freedom, because freedom involves responsibility,

and most people are frightened of responsibility.
Sigmund Freud

Donations to "Billy Barlow" Campaign
I would not be concerned with the legal donation made that were registered with the state, I would be more concerned with the cash that was given under the table that was not reported.
There were several people that benefited from cash donations that are now on the payroll, and many others that will benefit from the $10 million that will be give to those, "undisclosed cash givers", for their phony projects.
If a simple spreadsheet was created with actual money spent by the Barlow campaign and money reportedly filed with the state, you would find that the difference between that spent, and that reported, to be about $75,000 more spent than was reported as received.
There are elements in the Barlow group, that are now getting the benefits of the under the table cash donations, and those that have paid attention, know exactly who these people are.
                                                                                                                        September 15/17

County Treasure
Now that we have a high school drop out as the County Treasure, and he has proven he can not handle the job, the county is going to hire another law firm @ thousands of dollars a year to take care of a simple procedure that is the responsibility of the County Treasure. It is a simple process where inherited houses, which the taxes have not been paid on, have to go to a county auction. Beardsley is to stupid to accomplish this little task, so the County Legislators are going to hire a high priced law firm to do the job Beardsley can not do.
If the county wants to save money, fire Beardsley for being incompetent, and have one of the clerks take over until January when we will be voting in another incompetent to sit in that office, as this will be an unopposed election.
Maybe we can get Onondaga County to take over that office and the Purchasing Department at the same time and not have a County Treasure.
                                                                                                                         September 15/17






Today's  Quote September 14/2017

I believe that the way people live can be directed a little by architecture.
Tadao Ando

Donations "friends of Billy barlow"

                                                                                                                          September 13/17

All i read about is we have to find ways to save money !!!!! Well there is one HUGE WAY, have all these county employees drive there own vehicles to work , HEALTH DEPT. , HIGHWAY DEPT. (ORANGE PICKUPS) WHICH ARE EVERYWHERE, i know they say they pay about $500 a year for this right, but 1. DO NOT PAY INSURANCE , 2. FREE GAS, 3. FREE MAINTENANCE , and no wear and tear on their own PERSONAL VEHICLES, lets get real , tax payers have had enough !!!!!!!!!!!
                                                                                                                        September 13/17

The IRS considers benefits like the use of a vehicle as taxable income. The 500 dollar pittance is probably their way around that.



Was Terry Hamill the mayor of Oswego, NY when Peter Colemen was pulling his fast deal on Oswego, NY ? And where was all those SMART EDUCATED TEACHERS with the common sense of basic accounting skills, you know, like if you have a checking account and you have to make debts and credits work on a worksheet on that smart deal with the city of oswego and peter coleman .
It is a boys club, nice job of Hammill and sullivan working together. Thank you mr. sullivan and hamill for watching the taxpayer’s back on that deal that paid for new equiment on tip hill for coleman at the cost of the oswego taxpayers !

So let me ask , a person is in charge of the oswego pore, has to oversee boat ( ship ) off loading, labor dispute, contract negoitions, safety on the docks, road way , critters, dealing with boarder patrol, Homeland Security, State Police, Sheriff Dept .Local Police Dept. Grounds Maintance, EPA Guidelines, Dec Guidelines, Weather 24/7 updates, Current Stock and soft stock market values !
But after all, this is a business, and if you and your friends cannot give a receipt for a pack of candy, then, you are not a business person, then you must be a lawyer ! Because, the monies that are being from the taxpayers, are from politicians ! And they are great at misleading!
Just look at some of those people that bought Brit Hill Homes, bad design, bad contractors, bad arch. homes with the drainage problems, and yet it was turned to the taxpayers to pay ! Passing the blame has always be the Oswego, NY Way ! Which might not amount to a “ hill of beans “ . get it ?
                                                                                                                        September 13/17







Today's  Quote September 13/2017

When I saw corruption, I was forced to find truth on my own. I couldn't swallow the hypocrisy.

Barry White

Port of Oswego Authority
I glad to hear that Terry Hammill is on the job with the rest of the ever vigilant board members. You can rest assured that if Zelko Kirincich was stealing, Terry was right there with him. Maybe Peter Colman or the O’Day Associates have them in their garage. The Beans could have been dissolved by all the water he gave away when he was mayor, or just loaded into his yacht for future delivery.- Sir Francis Drake
                                                                                                                        September 13/17

Political Favors
Has anyone else noticed that our kid mayor has been getting donations from some interesting people? The cities Personel Director and the new Fire Chief. Must be how kids and friends of these people get jobs with the city. And this also explains why the bloated fire department, all of a Sudden is able to make back door deals to buy more trucks, ambulance and people!
                                                                                                                        September 13/17

Pope says rescinding DACA is not 'pro-life'

                                                                                                                          September 13/17

Alabama senate candidate repeatedly appeared on radio with pastor

who preaches penalty for homosexuality is death










Today's  Quote September 12/2017

If men knew how women pass the time when they are alone, they'd never marry.

O. Henry



Perdue to Port of Oswego: Where are our 25 rail cars worth of soybeans?


                                                                                                                           September 12/17


Vote No!!!

                                                                                                                           September 12/17









Today's  Quote September 11/2017

There is little anyone can do with fanatics. Reasoning with them is a fool's errand. Avoiding them is mandatory.
Bill O'Reilly

Because You Do Not Know What I Make :
Not sure what the question is . Is this some who is a civil servant like a fire or police personal that wants their income private ? Not so , if you draw a paycheck from the taxpayers ! Remember us ?
                                                                                                                        September 11/17

Councilor Nathan Emmons cant follow code
Seems our strangest councilman believes he is above the code laws---

Everyone else has to have railings on anything over three steps !--
=Their dirty diaper business hasn't had a railing on it in months. Oh
the spots are there where there was a railing before, and right on
bridge street it goes un-noticed. I call BS

Not above code--I have a railing :0) WTG new code guys
                                                                                                                        September 11/17

I would like to know why the City and OCSD does not have a website that you can see, were is our tax dollars going. Everything is secret ,secret, and we are left in the dark,just keep paying more for less !!!! Also is it TRUE the MAYOR pays no TAXES and lives in his parents basement ??????? The mayor should take a ride around town and see HOW his DPW is giving it to the taxpayers !!!!!!

Also the school district WANTS TURF fields for what , MOST OUTSIDE SPORTS have not had a winning season in years. The teachers are OVERPAID and they teach , by here it is , if you get it fine if not oh well, (NOT ALL TEACHERS) but they know who they are !!!!!!!! And their favorite line ITS FOR THE KIDS, bs !! its about the almighty dollar. WHY cant the public see their salaries BE OPEN, oh thats right you have to get past KING GOEWEY !!!!!!!!!!! There is no openness in either SHAMEFUL !!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                                                                                        September 11/17

Fourth ward canidates :
You got to be kidding, DAVE WHITES SISTER , give me a break, on line she agrees what a great job BARLOW is doing , and the other woman is worring about the water front, ARE YOU KIDDING,they have done how many studies on the waterfront, ITS A JOKE, ,don"t know or heard of the Wilmont guy. God HELP THE 4th ward !!!!! All THE mayor does is take care of the WEST side HE'S fogotten the east side .
                                                                                                                        September 11/17







Today's  Quote September 9/2017

I've become a captive of my own ambitions.
Patsy Cline

Gary T.
Pall Times this morning said Gary has about 6 months to live. Maybe the powers that be will be happy when he dies in prison. There is no justice in Oswego County. Someone killed Heidi, and they are walking around free. Very sad! Let the poor guy die at home.
                                                                                                                        September 9/17

Who's related and what's important in Scriba politics –
Might be a good time to talk about a couple of the Town Supervisor candidates, Kelly Lagoe and Jim Oldenburg.

First, for all of you uninformed who want to end the nepotism in Scriba....
Kelly’s brother, Mike Barry, is the highway superintendent.
Jim Lagoe is Kelly's husband, and he works in the highway department.
Kelly Lagoe and MIke Barry's cousin, Brian Hyde, was chosen by Mike as his deputy highway superintendent.
George Lagoe, Kelly's brother in law, was recently hired by Mike(after just retiring from Novelis with a fat pension) to work in the highway department. That's FIVE, folks, and I am sure there is more to come if she is elected. But, here is another huge problem....

Kelly, if elected as Town Supervisor, will be unable to have anything to do with the highway department decisions because of the multiple family connections. She will need to recuse herself from negotiating the Teamsters union contract, the highway budget development and approval, any employee issues(hiring or disciplinary) and all highway spending. That is a huge chunk of Scriba business that will fall on the shoulders of the rest of the board members. So, if you really want the Town run efficiently and end nepotism, she is not your girl.

Jim Oldenburg- nice guy, by many accounts. At least he doesn’t seem to have family members already in place in the Town. His ability to supervise and lead? His ability to be invested in the job? Questionable, at best. Check the facts... ask anyone of the legislators how many meetings he attended during his tenure as a legislator. Talk to any of the Republican Committee members regarding their motivation for their unanimous endorsement of Rob Ramsey. Oldenburg is correct is saying he "has had" support from the Republican Committee, but he doesn't anymore. The vote was unanimous, even though Oldenburg has been around politics for years. Why? Ask.

Next issue--- Mr. Oldenburg works for Excelon. Can anyone see a problem here?? Mr. Oldenburg will have to recuse himself from any issues arising from Excelon, including contract negotiations. The matter of what to do about, or with, the nuclear plants in the future is going to be critical, and Mr. Oldenburg will be unable to be involved in any of it. Do you think he is going to support their closure, or be able to negotiate an increase in the tax they pay? No.

There is only one clear choice for Scriba Town Supervisor, Rob Ramsey--- the Republican and Conservative endorsed candidate.
                                                                                                                        September 9/17

Mayor-Fire Dept
Some early news from eager to talk firemen. The Mayor has admitted that he cut to much meat from the bone. He wants to hire more fireman and purchase more ambulances. But this must be done quietly so as not to alert the media and the taxpayers of his short comings. Looks like the people that were protesting his budget last year were correct in saying that services WOULD be affected with his cuts. Now he secretly scrambles to get the original services back in place. As taxpayers we have the responsibility to call Mayor Barlow out on his games and inexperience!
                                                                                                                        September 9/17

Really Kathy Wahredork?
Her hubby is top of violations as a slumlord in Oswego. How can anyone vote for her? She is much smarter than he dumb ass looking husband! Please come on voters see what her running is all about....BTW dumb ass Dave should really be around while is wife is out and about if you get my drift..... VOTERS DON'T
                                                                                                                        September 9/17

Because you dont have to know what i make.
U dont ask you do i.a.. Hole
                                                                                                                        September 9/17

Legislative Column from Assembly Minority Leader Brian M. Kolb (R,C,I,Ref-Canandaigua)

A recent report from Comptroller Thomas DiNapoli shows Upstate New York’s workforce is shrinking, even as gains are made in New York City and Long Island. Upstate’s lagging economy is hardly news, considering Albany’s failure to enact any sustainable economic development reforms. While the governor’s claims of Upstate’s economic turnaround are numerous, actual results have been harder to come by.

Evidence of the governor’s inability to deliver for Upstate came from a recent report released by the comptroller. According to the report, the North Country, Mohawk Valley and Central New York experienced a 6-percent dip in the labor force between 2011 and 2016. The Southern Tier is shedding workers at a 9-percent clip. These are unacceptable figures and stand in direct contradiction to the rosy picture being painted by this administration.


The governor has based much of his economic development strategy on gimmicks and flash. The START-UP New York program was hyped as a game-changer, but despite $53 million in taxpayer-funded advertising, the measure has produced a paltry 408 jobs. The Buffalo Billion, touted as the golden egg that would revitalize Buffalo and the surrounding municipalities, has been fraught with missteps, underreporting, corruption and investigations. One of the governor’s former top aides, Joseph Percoco, is facing a corruption trial in January for allegedly accepting bribes related to economic development contracts in Buffalo.

The Regional Economic Development Council’s (REDC) competitions – also known as the Upstate Hunger Games – allocate taxpayer funding by picking “winners and losers,” rather than broadly offering relief to New York’s sky-high cost of doing business. Unfortunately, a catchy name takes precedence over sound policy. And more recently, another of the governor’s major economic development initiatives, licensing casinos around New York, has fallen short of expectations in the early stages of operations.


As the only legislative leader who has owned and run a company, I understand that New York’s taxes, fees and regulations have put our state at a competitive disadvantage and limited the ability of job creators to succeed.

The Assembly Minority has introduced legislation that would lower taxes, cut regulations for businesses, ensure the state’s jobs programs are more transparent and create a workforce equipped with the skills needed to bolster the state’s economy.

Upstate New Yorkers are growing tired of failed initiative after failed initiative. The comptroller’s report clearly demonstrates that there’s a tremendous amount of work to be done, and we must start from the bottom up. The state and its residents need more than superficial headline grabs; they deserve good jobs and a solid economic environment that supports businesses, families and allows for an affordable cost of living.
                                                                                                                        September 9/17

Taxpayers Pay Again
Gov. Cumo wants to honor his father by renaming a bridge ( albany ) at around the tune of $ 8 million dollars, but what is also not reported, is the cost of signs that have to be made, the removal of old signs and replaced by the new ones , cost of labor not reported . Cost of new signs to be made
, not reported .Cost of office workers to notify map companies and the printers ! Not to mention the law makers putting in there time and expense for this very important life threating matters.

At what point, does city hall and the board of education, hit the ground running on the behalf of the taxpayers ?
                                                                                                                        September 9/17







Today's  Quote September 8/2017

Though the sex to which I belong is considered weak you will nevertheless find me a rock that bends to no wind.
Elizabeth I

Does anyone know what the police and fireman cost the city ?
How much of the city budget goes to current working heroes and how much goes to retirees ????
                                                                                                                        September 8/17

Department of Fire
How much longer are our elected officials going to let these people scam the system with bloated retirements. Wasting money on certain unneeded services. Aren't municipalities supposed to be sharing services. How can anyone justify having the fireman run the overpriced ambulance when there is one that's already in the city limits doing the calls. The surrounding towns and the city of Fulton seem to be doing just fine with Menter. But what's different about oswego? OVERTIME OVERTIME OVERTIME. I also see that they are bilking our school taxes now by parking it at the track during games (more OVERTIME). Guess Billy the kid was all talk no action, typical politician.
                                                                                                                        September 8/17


Firing Teachers
If this is true, what authority did the high school principal, super of schools to fire Mr. Canale ? Did this go through the school board ? Is this more abuse of power that some people are put into , and once again, counting on low voter turn out and lack of information to the public ?
This is a boy’s club, and the taxpayers are not even invited !
                                                                                                                        September 8/17

Port Authority
I find it hard to believe that the President of a local bank (Tom Schneider), who servers on the finance committee as chairman at the Port Authority, and has been there for many years, is so inept, that he missed $16,000 in theft of the Port's money by the Port Director (Zelko Kirincich). Based on this information, people should have reservations about the safety of their accounts he is in charge of.
Shame on that committee for having such poor procedures, or no procedures, in place to protect the money from being stolen from the Port's accounts. There should also be an audit of the $400,000 plus, that is being held at the bank that Schneider is President of ( maybe a conflict of interest). If he can have $16,000 stolen under his nose, what about that account?
Shortly after Kirincich was hired by the Port Board, it came out that he left his last job in a port in Florida under suspicious circumstance. Maybe that port is missing money as well? With this theft, Zelko should be fired, and that is not counting what the IG investigating might find.
What an embarrassment for Oswego.
                                                                                                                        September 8/17







Today's  Quote September 7/2017

I've had a tough time learning how to act like a congressman.

Today I accidentally spent some of my own money.

Joseph P. Kennedy

Tim Horton Site
No Demo Permit Posted, No Buliding Permit Posted, No Excavation permit posted, No site Removal of Debris, No containment fence of job site safety after hours, staging a area of building materials NOT on building site property ( city property ) ? So as it goes , the city will be reimbursed for storage fees ! Still wondering about the tanks ( DEC Problem ) but yet they sit there like a proud baby to be shown !
How much of the city of oswego voters ( not the yes people ) are going to take this NO BACK BONE approach.
How Many more spineless aldermen do we have to see , after all , I guess that this all about stature for them, like the oswego school board , the only cause they have is “ I do not know what i am doing, but it looks great on my list !
And also, the former oswego high school principal , which got promoted ( which is not quaffed to do )FIRED MR. JOHN CANALE. A REAL NICE MAN,, AND HE ENJOYED COMING TO SCHOOL AND SEEING THE STUDENTS !
Ms. Heidi, you sound like a real class act, cannot wait for the next batch mental midgets ( teacher Corp ) to come out!
                                                                                                                        September 7/17

Negative results for human organs but yet the inmates were credible.
Especially when they testified to overhearing Gary's phone conversations and then asking him questions. Yeah, OK. The inmates were credible and Wheeler did nothing wrong by recruiting them.

                                                                                                                           September 7/17

Real issues
When did reality take a back seat ? Why does the OSCD give a free pass for tutoring for kids that have anxiety, sell drugs and are on welfare above an actual clinical diagnosis with a note from a reputable Doctor? I guess it is about funding and not the students.
                                                                                                                        September 7/17

White House walks back promise about Trump donating his ‘personal money’ to Harvey victims

                                                                                                                           September 7/17







Today's  Quote September 6/2017

The end of labor is to gain leisure.

Oswego ambulance and new fire theif.
What will it be next, a new unneeded ambulance, a bunch of lies to the council why Oswego needs a fire department the size of New York City, probably a new ladder truck to replace one of the new ones they already have at a half million dollars each,wasting tax money. Sell the ambulance and you can save some money for when they tell us that they need to paint all the fire trucks a new color . More of the same old story, pad there retirements at the tax payers expense,you do realize there is a private ambulance company that costs us nothing and creates local non tax payer funded jobs. God help the residents of Oswego.
                                                                                                                        September 6/17

How Come We Do Not See The Payroll
... for the city ( mayor, chamberlin , police, fire dept., dpw, parks, after all , give us the numbers !
Board of Education, give us the numbers of payroll, construction projects, offices that need painting, carpet and air fresheners , to mention a few ,
vehicle buys and repair and while we are at it , how many NEW positions are being created at taxpayers expense ?
These people want to spend money, they do not care where it comes from, because they are banking on the fact that the people that do not care, will not vote. And of course, people that work in the school district. , will not vote on anything negative, after all , there hand is always out, and they always get !
Rescue truck comes in - $ 350,000.00 ( approx) people to man it 24 /7 ( do not know how many, or what if when there is a difference between summer , fall , winter, and spring ) truck goes out on a call, people come in to fill there spots !
It seems that the ambl. has not gone away and neither has that lying at city hall either !
Tell your aldermen, to stop wasting money and grow some backbone ! At some point in time, keep saying yes must get tiring !
                                                                                                                        September 6/17

Former High School Principal
How did you get a job that you are not qualified for ! Once again, is the city of oswego and the school board a hiring hall for there friends, or , once again, counting on the yes voters , which is mostly made up of teachers, yes people, voters trusting in people that where voted in, without knowing what there back ground is !
Who bought the former “ Tim Horton “ site ? And did that oil tank that got pulled out, did it get reported to the D.E.C. ? I did not see any D.E C. vechiles, EPA vechiles, D.P.W. vechiles, City Engeering vechiles, DOL vechiles ? ( Department of Labor ).

So I guess the art of deception is still played out well with the city and the school board. Still trying to find out how many eligible voters in the city of oswego and how many eligible voters there are in the oswego school district !
P. S. , Ms. Hedi, was not the most qualified, but after all , Mr Goey, you knew that !
                                                                                                                        September 6/17

Tim Horton Site
How come no Demo permit, no building permit, contaminants found on site , city, county, state and fed . contacted ?
Is this a under "the table “ ? Would the Broadwells be in involved in this transaction ?
Nice job of the contractor disposing of construction debris . Once again , the city of oswego shows ( aldermen, mayor, it’s construction dept. , engineering dept. ) on how they conduct construction business , thank you !
                                                                                                                        September 6/17







Today's  Quote September 4/2017

I still don't have all the answers. I'm more interested in what I can do next than what I did last. Charlie Sheen
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I still don't have all the answers. I'm more interested in what I can do next than what I did last. Charlie Sheen
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I still don't have all the answers. I'm more interested in what I can do next than what I did last. Charlie Sheen
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I still don't have all the answers. I'm more interested in what I can do next than what I did last.

Charlie Sheen



White House walks back promise about Trump donating his ‘personal money’ to Harvey victims


                                                                                                                           September 4/17

Red Cross Exec Doesn't Know What Portion Of Donations Go To Harvey Relief :


                                                                                                                           September 4/17

Wasteful spending
So let me get this straight. The fire department is going to hire more people so they can operate the ambulance all with out the public knowing. Then why did the mayor layoff all the people last year? Was it just to look good for the news cameras? This new "chief" is spending our money like its water. All kinds of new toys. New white SUV with ZERO city markings on it (against city rules) why is it unmarked, unless you are taking it places you shouldn't be. Also wasting our money on a new EMS truck, for what? Aren't You running the ambulance! This guy is just more of the same. Stay tuned things don't smell right!
                                                                                                                        September 4/17

PM Doesn't Feel Bad About Making Canada's Wealthiest 'Pay A Little More'

                                                                                                                           September 4/17

Westside vs Eastside
How come monies from this $ 10,000,000.00 gift is going to the westside ( mayor decision and aldermen bow down ) and not the eastside ?
No Backbone, just a bunch of bobbleheads .
I guess that there must be a competition who can fool the taxpayers the most ! I am guessing ( mayor and super of schools ) that both of them are working in concert . I am guessing that both of them are counting on the taxpayers of oswego, are going to be staring on the “ walking Dead “, because the aldermen and the oswego school board members have held that title for sometime !
Drive around the city and the boundaries of the school district, and you will see the “ for sale “ signs.

You tell me, are we growing or shrinking ?
                                                                                                                        September 4/17

Port of Oswego director's cell phone, computer seized by NY investigators, chairman says
Read the comments, better than the article.


                                                                                                                           September 4/17

I wonder how many calls were made to mother Russia.

Rescue Truck
Has not been mentioned why this vehicle is needed or what is it’s function ?
Is this going to be another grand standing show, just like that $ 500,000.00 truck that they pull out on every call ? And by the way, if you have to replace the tires on that rig every year ?, then maybe someone might question the necessity of this rig going out on every call like a small truck !
Again, aldermen not concerned about the waste ?
And this New Rescue truck, I am guessing that there will have to be special training, like what side the fuel cap is on, what does P R N D3 D2 D1 , what are headlight controls, what food stores to shop at, and the proper wax to use !
And of course, how many people are going to be trained in the use of this vehicle ? And, if it is called out, how many are called in ?
                                                                                                                        September 4/17

Parking spaces for WHO?
I recently drove down St. Paul Street, and to my surprise (and confusion) noticed 4 or 5 parking spaces laid out and painted on the east side of the street, just north of the intersection with E. Seneca.
The nearest need for parking is Oswego Health, which has a huge parking lot of it's own.
There is absolutely NO reason for these spaces, unless the DPW had a couple gallons of paint to get rid of and a couple of painters with not enough to do.
Oswego (and a reason for everything) Luver
                                                                                                                        September 4/17

Oswego's trashed downtown and surrounding area.
It is rare for me to make an early Sunday morning drive down West Bridge Street, but what I saw there and on a couple side streets heading toward West Park really disgusted me. There were plastic cups, pizza boxes and paper plates all over the sidewalks, roads and residents' lawns. It does not speak well of the people who frequent our downtown area on Saturday nights! People should know better but evidently they don't. Does Oswego have a fine for littering, and if so maybe our police could observe and issue tickets.
                                                                                                                        September 4/17


Such class.

The DA defends this. What a joke. How embarrassing for the Sheriffs & DA whom are protecting her. Its been tweeted, facebooked and sent off to those who are watching your every move.



                                                                                                                           September 4/17







Today's  Quote September 2/2017

As an immigrant, I appreciate, far more than the average American, the liberties we have in this country. Silence is a big enemy of morality. I don't want our blunders in history to get repeated.

Gloria Estefan

Maybe the target of the warrant wouldnt play ball with a local developer and the tool that exercised said warrant will get the person out of their way to open avenues for a sweet relationship
Maybe they can "slide" their new guy in
Who plays ball
Who knows just a theory
                                                                                                                        September 2/17

Oswego ambulance and lying to public again.

If we are buying a new rescue truck for $150,000 witch will be nothing more than a glorified pickup truck that they already have why isn't the ambulance being sold to offset the cost mayor Barlow you did a good job cleaning up depatments in this city this would be fiscally responsible on your part I just hope you are not being sold a bill of goods all fire departments try to pull fastones at budget time you could sell the ambulance and use it for the new truck and let menter ambulance that costs the tax payers nothing free do the ambulance service thank you keep representing the taxpayers
                                                                                                                        September 2/17

Lack of Construction Expertise
1. New Waterfront construction , This City Does Not Have Construction Dept. that knows anything about concrete , soil compaction, contam. soil, road compaction, possible oil contams. and oil containers buried in the ground , for starts !
2. Where do people park ?
3. Where do the Business Owners Park ?
4. What about the people that own rental property, and might be behind in there taxes ( people that are true in values, but are low in the checkbook ) not getting a break because some dick head says that if you are behind in taxes ( dog lic. ,really ? ) will not get a permit to bring up to code ? How is this building friendly ?
5. And how does the code dept. get away with not having PICTURE I . D . and hardhats ?
6. And how does the code enforcement get away with trespassing on a person’s property and looking thru there windows ?
7. I could be wrong, but this sounds like the aldermen are clueless ( as the yes voters counted on ).
8. The board of education are clueless ( as the yes voters count on ).
9. Still working on student enrollment numbers, but ,at this point, to my understanding, the numbers go down every year , but when i find out, i will let people know !
10. Former Tim Horton Site, still no building permit posted, no demo permit posted, no fed and state wages board set up, and NO Construction security fence set up . Boy, this city hall just shows it knowledge and professional wisdom ! Some day, they ( aldermen, board of education, super of schools, mayor who wants to move up in this world of yes people, and leader of greedy servants of oswego)
, will get past the educational greed and wonder what how to have the ability to think, without being told how to !
11. asking questions and getting involved and voting is a start !
12. Thanks!
                                                                                                                        September 2/17

Board of Elections
This should be interesting, With the brains of the BOE leaving , this leaves no one on his side with any election experience, and you have dumb and dumber on the other side that are totally clueless on what day it is ...Prepare yourselves for a complete disaster on the upcoming elections.
                                                                                                                        September 2/17








Today's  Quote September 1/2017

Life is always full of challenges. I believe you're never happy unless you're consistently making challenges for yourself.
Itzhak Perlman

E. Eighth St. & Church St.
Three big trees cut down, no apparent sign of rot or damage. All the sidewalk has been torn out on the corner property. There was nothing wrong with the side walk. Last I knew the property owners were told the city had no money for sidewalk replacement and that would be the property owner's responsibility. Did Oz win the lottery? A lot of money is being pissed away. Can we all have new sidewalks now?
                                                                                                                        September 1/17

Sports Dream
1 . where are the public rest rooms ?
2. if you have more that two functions, where do the busses park ?
3. and since the oswego high school is at the lowest elevation , how are the fields going to drain ?
4. how is the sanitary going to be handled ?
5. where are the changing rooms for the visiting athletes ?
6. what is the emergency access ( fire trucks and ambulances ) around this sports complex ?
7. no more track at the high school ?
8. how many more people to be hired to maintain sports complex ?
9. how much more new equipment to be bought for maintenance ?
10. lighting for which fields ?
11. at one time, ambl. was free, they but boosters paid, then greed kicked in and the fire dept. got paid . but the ambl. would be only at certain events. my guess that it would be at the longest events ( more hours , more pay )
12. a lot of people seem to have there hands out and willing to take ,and others are willing to spend others monies !
13. ( i am workinging on this ) what was the student enrollment for the year 2016-2017 in the grades k-6 7and 8 and 9-12 ?
14. what are the grade enrollment numbers for the year 2017 - 2018 in the grades k-6 7 and 8 and 9 - 12 ?
15. this ,by no means ,is a 2.1 million dollar project ! more like 4.5 million ! where they will try to b.s. the taxpayer, is they will say that they have to do it in stages, in which will cost even more !
16. we do ,as taxpayers, need to get to these meetings, because they count on low taxpayer participation and not knowing all the facts and figures !
                                                                                                                        September 1/17

New fire chief or more of the same
Does anyone else think this 4'9" chief is MCCrobies mini me. He is selling the same old pile of crap with a new wrapper. Wants to run the cities unnecessary ambulance, for what his napoleon ego? To inflate overtime and retirement rates, that we get stuck paying for. What can't these uneducated blow hards get through their heads, the TAXPAYERS don't want your over priced ambulance service. You have one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel- PULL THE PLUG MR MAYOR!
                                                                                                                        September 1/17

Who not to do business with

How many times will it take before the city and county learn not to deal with Cre8? The county just got stuck for thousands of dollars in overtime cost for the sheriff's Department to give coverage for the PaddelFest, that Jake Mulchay (County Legislator) and Heath Jones from Cre8 put together. Seems like this same person, Jones, stuck the City of Oswego fro several hundred dollars in unpaid bills last year. Now the county has been burned and had a legislator in partnership, with a person known for not paying their bills. Great!
I know that about 6 months ago there was a posting here about the Jones with something about their house in default to the bank. I also see that Broadwell (Shane), is trying to smooth it over after he hired Chris Jones as the Clerk of the Legislature. Now they are trying to cover up the conflict of interest. So, to put it in perspective; they don't pay their bills to the communities they do business with, there is an issue with their property, her husband Chris is working for the county brought in by Broadwell, there is a conflict of interest as he works for the county and doing business with the county, and Mulchay is in cahoots with Heath and has been for years, giving her work for a couple of Dem campaigns and then she passed private information onto the republicans. Real reputable!
There was also a issue with a DWI, where Chis Jones told the police that he was friends with Barlow and Broadwell and tried to get out of the DWI because of his relation ship with them. He got drunk at a function at Broadwells. (Adult Prom) Not sure what happened to that ticket, but probably swept under the rug.
                                                                                                                        September 1/17






Today's  Quote August 31/2017

Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago.
Warren Buffett

Trump wants to rob disaster relief to pay for border wall, terrorizing people of color

                                                                                                                           August 31/17

YOU ARE 100% right KING of the school district seems to get what ever he wants. IL never forget at this years top 100 students dinner ,he couldn't even stand up and SHAKE there hands, ( LAZY PIECE OF CRAP), what a slap in the face to these students that bust their buts, in unruly classes, as the TEACHERS ,NOT ALL ,but some just don't care for the money they make !!!!!!. Its hard to believe they don't teach cursive , they print there names. Also i believe OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT fell in scoring last year, and all you hear them say is ITS ALL ABOUT THE KIDS , AND WE NEED A RAISE. They are all ready over paid !!!!!!!! SAD !!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                                                                                        August 31/17


Heidi Allen, Garrett Phillips mysteries: Pair of Upstate NY cases featured on TV series


                                                                                                                           August 31/17

Help People Eat or S pend Taxpayers Monies on Toys?
Would $ 40,000.00 ( that is suggesed to spend on a playground) help feed people, give them clothes, help them with there pets, buy books for the students, flashlights ( in case of blackouts ), etc… !
I am so glad that the people count on the school board is not 30, because we do not need another 30 people that are clueless !
Just drive around Oswego, and watch how people in this fair town drives !
                                                                                                                        August 31/17

Toucans and Rob Reed
I believe Rob Reed is brother to Lyman Reed, the owner of 218 Syracuse Ave., former home to a drug dealing prosititute..........just sayin'
                                                                                                                        August 31/17

Are You Kidding Me ? No, they are not!
This park is just a start. The city is getting out of control and looks like there are some questionable things going on with the fire depart and this new chief!. What is going on with the ambulance crew? Sell the f@%king working ambulance and sell the broken one for parts. Get out of the ambulance service like the lying mayor agreed to do before the clone of McCrobie was hired. Seems this guy is spending money hand over fist and looking to re-establish OT for the retiring guys. Time to start investigating this department and the mayor again.
If you think this is bad, look at the plans for the high school athletic fields. The school district wants to spend $2,100,000 to move the football field to where the baseball fields are, move the base ball fields to where the football field and track was, give the marching band a grass field to march on instead of the parking lot, and have a vacant lot where part of the football field was. There was a calendar put out by the school district out lining all of this in picture form.
As I recall, we had no money two years ago, had to eliminate teachers positions and did not have any money for the high school sports program. They could not sell the Ed. building but spent hundreds of thousands moving the Ed. office to Laten School, and now want to spend over $2,000,000 to move the ball fields around in some stupid plan that makes no sense at all. The sale of the Ed building will be at a loss as nobody is going to buy an office building where they don't own the parking lot.(the lot belongs to the city)
The city and the school district are out of control! Spend money that the taxpayers don't have and are making bad decisions that seem to be politically driven and motivated by personal gain.
People better start going to these council meetings at the city and Board of Education Meetings, and start speaking up or get ready to pay high taxes for both city and school. You just got a 3%+ form the city which should have been 0%. What do you think this move for the office and ball field fiasco is going to cost you in tax increases?
                                                                                                                        August 31/17

IG executing search warrant at the Port of Oswego Authority

Local police agencies and the DAs office are not commenting probably because they were not invited to the party.
                                                                                                                        August 31/17

High School Proposed upgrade to Athletic Fields $2.1 Mil

                                                                                                                        August 31/17








Today's  Quote August 30/2017

Beware how you take away hope from another human being.
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.

Are You Kidding Me ?
A $ 40,000.00 UP GRADE TO A SCHOOL PARK ? Is this not on School Property ? Is this not a Schoolboard Issue ? And This Is A Taxpayer Issue on the City Level ?
When do the aldermen ( women ) and the Oswego Schoolboard , LEARN HOW TO SAY NO FIRST and Listen To the B.S. second !
And if I did not know better, for a moment, This sounds like the way they do things out in California !
Maybe, and this is just a thought, that the tax base should be changed , and go by on the amount of income and not on property value ! That way, retires pay less ( after all, they have been paying for a long time ) and the elites , fill in the blanks , pay more ! After all , why should someone pay , possibly ,almost the same in city and school taxes when there income might be in the $ 80,000.00 to $ 200,000.00 bracket ( and might actually pay the same in water and sewer ). How is this fair ?
And how come the City of Oswego, NY is sticking there nose into the YMCA ? I may be wrong, but I thought tax dollars do not go to non profit !
I have not heard from a single person on the City Council or the Oswego Schoolboard that has said to no more wasting taxpayer’s monies !
So Mr. Goe is that important that HE must RENOVATE HIS OFFICE EVERY YEAR, And the SCHOOLBOARD APPROVE’S THIS ?
Heck, what is the point of voting, other than meeting your friends at the polling place. They win again.
                                                                                                                        August 30/17


Lest we forget Wheeler
What's that I read? At the pre-trial Hearing in 1995 Wheeler testified to not knowing that Gary was a suspect in MA? But...he received the warrant via fax in 1994 and the notes show he was at the brief on April 15, 1994 when Gary was named as prime suspect.

Now, why was nothing done about Wheeler's verifiable, blatant, proven lie under oath?




Oswego Ambulance
Why have I noticed the oswego ambulance running around town recently. Why is our supposed "new" fire department still wasting tax payer money when we have Menter Ambulance in the city of oswego, which I am told provides a far superior level of service free to the community. Please Stop the fleecing of the oswego tax payers. for years.
                                                                                                                        August 30/17

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Does anyone think it was suspicious:.. that Jennifer Westcott didn't tell the inv. that she lied until after they told her the phone call was taped?

...that Oakes brought Tonya just to discredit her
...that Oakes said he didn't believe anything JW said but offered her (per JW) immunity
...that Oakes said he didn't believe Tonya but wouldn't give her a poly that she asked for
...that JW was just trying to appease her and get her of the phone. "I won't lie to ya"...JW to Tonya on the phone.
...that Oakes never mentioned that JW kid accidently hit Tonya's phone mumber
...that the whole phone call per OCSD may have been stagged. Yeah JW is going to put herself into a crime
..."I guess I was just confessing I had Heidi Allen in my house"...Jenn Westcott....remember she said she never lived there
...that JW said "I never said anything about them bringing her in a WHITE van...yes people sha said a WHITE van. The inv. then said "no, that isn't what you said".
...and then goes back and tells them that she was told what happened to HA.


The worst cover up since the JFK murder. Just read it, Swenkowski, Richard, Stinson, Bivens is all you need to read to know something fishy happened here and I dare any DA to PROVE this crime happened the way they said it did. IMPOSSIBLE ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE. You guys made a lot of mistakes.
                                                                                                                        August 30/17







Today's  Quote August 29/2017

Knowing is not enough; we must apply. Willing is not enough; we must do.

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Crooked Trump lock him Up

                                                                                                                           August 29/17

December 8, 1994-Pre-trial motions which include request for discovery-the partial transcript page from Exhibit #28 of Oakes’ filing to the Motion to vacate says, “The Court: He doesn’t want to tell you what he’s holding back, Mr. Walsh.”
December 14,1994-Fahey went to inspect discovery material-
Viewed tapes, photos, etc…”a copy of the entire Oswego County Sheriff’s Department report relative to this criminal action”.
Why did this not include the bulk storage material from the search center? Those items were no less a part of “the entire OCSD report” to this criminal action? Had they been made available to Fahey on December 14, the CI index card would have been “found” then instead of May 1995.




                                                                                                                        August 29/17

The building is still owned by the Constanzas but Rob Reed and Chris Browning own the business, they’re friends with the mayor so don’t expect anything to happen there unless the ABC board steps in. they have known about the under aged drinking there, even high school kids, but have been told to look the other way! Hopefully no one gets hurt down there before something happens.
                                                                                                                        August 29/17

Teachers and New York State have failed the Education System
I went to a local take out restaurant (Mexican) where you have to order from several choices, what you would like on your meal. Rather than announcing to the individual behind the counter, I handed them a note what my choices were for my order. After a few seconds of confusion about the note, I realized that I would have to read the choices to the food server. The reason; it was written in cursive, and the state no longer teaches cursive to students in public schools. They can not read cursive and can only read sentences that are printed. It is a shame that learning how to write and read cursive is now going to be a lost art, because the state, and teachers failed to keep this as a requirement for English.
The kids today, do not have a personal signature, just a printed name. It is truly a shame!
                                                                                                                        August 29/17




                                                                                                                           August 29/17



Lowlifes like the Constanzas get away with murder because the Syracuse offices of the State Liquor Authority and Attorney General have been for sale to the highest bidder for years.

                                                                                                                           August 29/17








Today's  Quote August 28/2017

I have learned that only two things are necessary to keep one's wife happy. First, let her think she's having her own way. And second, let her have it.
Lyndon B. Johnson

Another Saturday Night Fight
Many police
Why is this place in business
Without underage kids to serve they would not be there
Someone said an officer was hit by one of the thugs
Only a matter of time before someones child gets
Seriously injured
Toucans if you cant get a babysitter
                                                                                                                        August 28/17

Is that dive still owned by that Constansa bitch and her igiot husband.








Today's  Quote August 27/2017

Success - keeping your mind awake and your desire asleep.
Walter Scott


TUESDAY, JULY 28, 2015
Federal Law Protects Confederate Heritage
The United States Government Honors Confederate Veterans and the Confederacy

For those who believe that the Confederate States of America and the men and women who pledged allegiance to that constitutionally established government and spilled their blood and treasure in its defense are somehow illegitimate and not worthy of honor and protection by the American government, below are those laws and proclamations honoring them and their service and which proclaim that they were equal in honor and worthiness to those who served the Federal cause. Such official proclamations by the Government of the United States removes all claims against the Confederacy and those who served it and protects, defends and honors their symbols, monuments and heroes. In other words, the current assault upon all things Confederate is contrary to the laws of the United States of America and must be resisted vigorously.

Congressional Act of 9 March 1906 ~ We Honor Our Fallen Ancestors

(P.L. 38, 59th Congress, Chap. 631-34 Stat. 56)

This act authorized the furnishing of headstones for the graves of Confederates who died, primarily in Union prison camps and were buried in Federal cemeteries.

Remarks: This act formally reaffirmed Confederate soldiers as military combatants with legal standing. It granted recognition to deceased Confederate soldiers commensurate with the status of deceased Union soldiers.

U.S. Public Law 810, Approved by 17th Congress 26 February 1929

(45 Stat 1307 - Currently on the books as 38 U.S. Code, Sec. 2306)

This law, passed by the U.S. Congress, authorized the “Secretary of War to erect headstones over the graves of soldiers who served in the Confederate Army and to direct him to preserve in the records of the War Department the names and places of burial of all soldiers for whom such headstones shall have been erected.”
Remarks: This act broadened the scope of recognition further for all Confederate soldiers to receive burial benefits equivalent to Union soldiers. It authorized the use of U.S. government (public) funds to mark Confederate graves and record their locations.

U.S. Public Law 85-425: Sec. 410 Approved 23 May 1958

Confederate Iron Cross

(US Statutes at Large Volume 72, Part 1, Page 133-134)

The Administrator shall pay to each person who served in the military or naval forces of the Confederate States of America during the Civil War a monthly pension in the same amounts and subject to the same conditions as would have been applicable to such person under the laws in effect on December 31, 1957, if his service in such forces had been service in the military or naval forces of the United States.

Remarks: While this was only a gesture since the last Confederate veteran died in 1958, it is meaningful in that only fifty-seven years ago, the Congress of the United States saw fit to consider Confederate soldiers as equivalent to U.S. soldiers for service benefits. This final act of reconciliation was made almost one hundred years after the beginning of the war and was meant as symbolism more than substantive reward.

Additional Note of Critical History: Under current U.S. Federal Code, Confederate Veterans are equivalent to Union Veterans.

Other Considerations:

1. Following the Spanish-American War, which saw former Confederates serving under US colors, the world began to look at us as a "super power."

2. Recognizing the need to bind old wounds, the government and the north started giving back flags and other captured equipment.

3. Confederate Veterans were enlisted to teach our "doughboys" the Rebel Yell battle cry. Unfortunately, they could not duplicate the three-tone yell.

4. President Wilson appointed former disenfranchised Confederates to official posts such as Post Master General.

5. President Roosevelt sent the President's own Marine Band to play at the only "out of South" UCV Reunion in Colorado. He also gave remarks at the unveiling of the Robert E. Lee memorial statue in Dallas, Texas - recognizing Lee as one of America's greatest Christians and one of America's greatest gentlemen.

6. Southern men distinguished themselves in every war following the American Civil War, with more men serving from the South than any other sector of the country.

7. This reconciliation period[*] led up to the Congressional Act of 9 March 1906, U.S. Public Law 810 Approved by 17th Congress 26 February 1929, and the final crown of reconciliation with U.S. Public Law 85-425: Sec. 410 Approved 23 May 1958. [*known as The Grand Bargain ~ Editor]

By the President of the United States of America ~ A Proclamation

The years 1961 to 1965 will mark the one-hundredth anniversary of the American Civil War.

That war was America's most tragic experience. But like most truly great tragedies, it carries with it an enduring lesson and a profound inspiration. It was a demonstration of heroism and sacrifice by men and women of both sides who valued principle above life itself and whose devotion to duty is a part of our Nation's noblest tradition.

Both sections of our now magnificently reunited country sent into their armies men who became soldiers as good as any who ever fought under any flag. Military history records nothing finer than the courage and spirit displayed at such battles as Chickamauga, Antietam, Kennesaw Mountain, and Gettysburg. That America could produce men so valiant and so enduring is a matter for deep and abiding pride.

The same spirit on the part of the people at home supported and strengthened those soldiers through four years of great trial. That a Nation which contained hardly more than thirty million people, North and South together, could sustain six hundred thousand deaths without faltering is a lasting testimonial to something unconquerable in the American spirit. And that a transcending sense of unity and larger common purpose could, in the end, cause the men and women who had suffered so greatly to close ranks once the contest ended and to go on together to build a greater, freer, and happier America must be a source of inspiration as long as our country may last.

By a joint resolution approved on September 7, 1957 (71 Stat. 626), the Congress established the Civil War Centennial Commission to prepare plans and programs for the nationwide observances of the one-hundredth anniversary of the Civil War, and requested the President to issue proclamations inviting the people of the United States to participate in those observances.

Now, Therefore, I, Dwight D. Eisenhower, President of the United States of America, do hereby invite all of the people of our country to take a direct and active part in the Centennial of the Civil War.

I request all units and agencies of government--Federal, State, and local--and their officials to encourage, foster, and participate in Centennial observances. And I especially urge our Nation's schools and colleges, its libraries and museums, its churches and religious bodies, its civic, service, and patriotic organizations, its learned and professional societies, its arts, sciences, and industries, and its informational media, to plan and carry out their own appropriate Centennial observances during the years 1961 to 1965; all to the end of enriching our knowledge and appreciation of this momentous chapter in our Nation's history and of making this memorable period truly a Centennial for all Americans.

In Witness Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and caused the Seal of the United States of America to be affixed.

DONE at the City of Washington this sixth day of December in the year of our Lord nineteen hundred and sixty, and of the Independence of the United States of America the one hundred and eighty-fifth.


By the President:

CHRISTIAN A. HERTER, Secretary of State






Today's  Quote August 23-24/2017

“Before you try to keep up with the Joneses, be sure they're not trying to keep up with you.”
Erma Bombeck

August 31 is Deadline to Report High Water Impact
August 31, 2017 is the deadline for Lake Ontario and St. Lawrence River property owners to complete the electronic surveys on high water impact by Cornell University and New York Sea Grant.

The lake and river survey forms are online at

The information collected will be used to identify areas that are most vulnerable to high water levels and inform future community flood risk planning.
                                                                                                                        August 23/24-17

Let's get this straight:
Jennifer goes in August 2014 for a poly, which she fails. The same day, Oakes is in the interview when she tells the truth but he dismisses it because she is a habitual liar?

Seems Oakes was attentive and believing to me.

Oakes, you sat there and watched and heard her pause and sigh, etc....Now, the whole world can too.

I have a Big clue for you, it was IMPOSSIBLE for Richard and Gary to have kidnapped Heidi either by Dodd's theory OR your own theory. Advice: Look elsewhere, like at "boasters". Get off the ______ horse you rode on and investigate without bias. You represent "We the People" and are tasked with UPHOLDING the LAW. For TRUTH AND JUSTICE. Does taking an Oath mean nothing to you? check.

                                                                                                                           August 23/24-17

How is this saving?
In Oswego Co Today, "Randall Griffin, Fire Chief, requested permission to have Oswego Fire Department personnel to cover each of the Oswego School District’s fall high school home football games and any crossover playoff games to be determined at a later date.
The school district will reimburse the city for all overtime and Social Security costs for the fire department personnel working the events at the minimum of four hours per personnel, per game."
Wouldn't Menter be cheaper? We are still paying tax dollars to fund. Wake up when the tax supported school "reimburses" the tax funded City Fire dept. it is all tax money folks. Besides I thought the ambulance was wobbling down the road with the wheels about to fall off? How is it going to be able to support this event? Am I missing something?
                                                                                                                        August 23/24-17

Two people go to the sports event and two more get called in on overtime. It counts toward their retirement. Is the school district going to pay their pensions too? They might but I kind of f**king doubt it.

Top Trump aide's email draws new scrutiny in Russia inquiry

                                                                                                                           August 23/24-17

Permits For Fencing
In the city of oswego, ny, do you need a PERMIT to build a FENCE?

                                                                                                                           August 23/24-17

Do Rental Property Owners
Required to have PERMITS to : Demo, Install New Work, Install New Electric, New Plumbing, Connect to Storm Systems, Connect to Sanitary Lines, Etc.. and in good relationship with the Mayor, such as a certain Rental Property Owner with the last name ending in “ A “ ?
                                                                                                                        August 23/24-17

Where Are The Demo, building, Plumbing, Electric, concrete, structural and all labor wages, state and federal, and union wages being posted on the front of the construction trailer at the former :
Tim Horton site ? The City of Oswego , NY is really on the cutting edge of getting this city into the 20 th century !
This is all supposed to be POSTED on the entranced to the Job Site ! Or is this another CUT DEAL ? And WHO OWNS THIS PROPERTY, Mr. Broadwell ?
                                                                                                                        August 23/24-17

China’s Great Wall considers bid for FCA Jeep unit

                                                                                                                           August 23/24-17







Today's  Quote August 22/2017

Art is not what you see, but what you make others see.
Edgar Degas

Removal Civil War Statures honoring Confederate Generals
Maybe we need to re-name the US Military Bases that are named after Confederate Generals, at the same time we remove the statutes.
Camp Beauregard
Fort Benning,
Fort Bragg,
Fort Gordon, (generally known as the Head of the KKK in Georgia)
Fort A.P. Hill
Fort Lee
Fort Hood
Fort Pickett
Fort Polk
Fort Rucker,
                                                                                                                        August 22-17

Oswego County Fair
Kathy Mac.....yes the same DA investigator, past Oswego City Police Chief heads up the Special Day at the fair for the handicap.
Donations through out the years from different people and organizations sponsor the event. One of the largest donors is the Oswego County Sheriff's Dept. They donate the meat and some foods. They volunteer to do the cooking in the Lacona Fire Dept food stand. And yes, Big Moe helps cook. Now along with that detail of cooking comes the responabilty of keeping the beer cold in the freezer. Big Moe helps with can't be warm.
They can be drunk as skunks, help support the benefit and then drive home drunk.
So wonder what happened?
Missing money from the fair again?
Lack of volunteers due to being shit on?
Kathy Mac looseing her touch?
                                                                                                                        August 22-17







Today's  Quote August 20-21/2017

Any one who thinks slavery doesn’t still exist in America should take a job in a factory or as a farm laborer.
Elliston Howard

Research ( if a person is looking to move to Oswego,NY )
Imagine this ; a person that was thinking of moving to Oswego, NY, would they be checking on the politics in the area, checking out the Schoolboard in the area, and asking some people ( residents ) of there opinion on the matter! Checking out what the enrollment or decline in school graduation, people on social asst. ( how taxpayers monies are being spent in the county of oswego,ny), crime log, size of the oswego police force,
how many people are registered to vote, how many no show voters are there !
Just asking a question !
                                                                                                                        August 20-21

Random Thought
Our moron-in-chief Trump was closer than he has ever been but still a mile off.
Truth is there were a lot of a$$holes on both sides of that argument.
                                                                                                                        August 20-21

Re: Confederate Monuments
Those statues where not put up in the 1860s during the Confederacy - a rebellion against the United States government, anyway - or even immediately afterwards by veterans, but many decades to a hundred years later, often by people not old enough to have personal nostalgia for the war or the Antebellum south, whose underlying intent was to put us "backwards" and reinforce white supremacy and segregation - if not even return to slavery, or at least something like indentured servitude. They were covert monuments to Jim Crow.
The Picture not shooped but colorized from black-and-white original:
                                                                                                                        August 20-21




Really, Really 'Random Thought'
Really like your post's title. I agree with the 'Random" part. Not sure I can agree with the 'Thought' part.
                                                                                                                        August 20-21







Today's  Quote August 19/2017

Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not.

Dr. Seuss




New York State Gets $ 2.3 billion from republicans on:

Was this medicaid ? Must read !  Source, CNN  7/18/2017

                                                                                                                               August 19



Random Thought

All the drama about removing every vestige of the Confederacy makes me wonder if the same group would be in favor of the American people rejoining the US as colonists.  After all, we were rebels and traitors to the British crown.  The Declaration of Independence must be another subversive document;  imagine Jefferson saying a group of people have the right to dissolve the political bands that tie them to another.   The Civil War was not only about slavery but a long history of failed compromises and defiance of the Supreme Court’s Dred Scott decision.   Both Lincoln and Douglas chose to ignore the Court’s decision that slaves were property and remained property no matter where their owners took them;  in effect there were no longer slave or free states.  By the way,  Old City Hall in Oswego, NY sold slaves too.   The North used indentured servants who were barely above the level of a slave.   Do people really think by destroying Confederate monuments you change people’s hearts?  Perhaps,  you enrage some people to the point when they now become violent.  Can we all just get along?

                                                                                                                              August 19







Today's  Quote August 18/2017

I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him.
Galileo Galilei

Habitat For Humanity rehab.stalled....
What the Hell is going on with the supposed HFH rehabilitation of the house on the S.W corner of East 12th and N. Division streets? It’s been sitting there untouched for MONTHS, with no sign of life even approaching the property!
The new addition to the west end of the house has been left exposed to the elements, and will need replacement because it is OSB, which starts to delaminate immediately upon getting wet..wasted effort and money.
The truss’ for the same section of the house are aging rapidly, soon to be less that structurally sound to support a roof. They are sitting on the ground.
There are rumors floating around about failure to pay suppliers and craftsman, other misappropriations of the funds, etc.
The neighbors want it DONE, or DOWN, as it is an eyesore which will, if left to continue decaying, will become an unsafe and unsavory party house or drug lair.
Any facts known?
Oswego (and making it better) Luver
                                                                                                                            August 18/17

Seems to me this happened before with the house on Liberty St.

Oswego County Fair
Arc of Oswego doesn't sponsor the event at the fairgrounds. From what I hear they were just as disappointed in it. Really a shame.
                                                                                                                            August 18/17

Yes You Are Right
You are right, i am a bad author, but at what point do YOU get tired of paying tax increases every year ? The City of Oswego,NY, water and sewer $ 275.00 per quarter. the Schoolboard of Education , wants to spend on new high school track, football field ,more parking, but yet school enrollment goes down ! The City of Oswego wants to spend there NEW monies on the west side, but nothing on the east side as was promise by the mayor .
You sound like Miles Becker !

I thought that OSWEGONYLION.COM was a place that ,sometimes a person could “ vent “ there frustration without being graded on there opinion, spelling, bad typing ( after all come of us do have arthritis in our hands) .
                                                                                                                            August 18/17

Never open !!
For the 3rd time i stopped by the antique place on duer, during posted hours, and they are closed.
That is the last time for me.
                                                                                                                            August 18/17






Today's  Quote August 16-17/2017

I shut my eyes in order to see.
Paul Gauguin

Response to author of idiotic opinion...
Al Sharpton ( sponsor of black lives matter and owes the taxpayers ( IRS ) 4.3 million Dollars

Well so does Donald, and Google and a lot of billionaires.

Now tell me one thing the republican party has ever done for the poor, middle class or the country.

Are you saying that the liberals don't care about people, poverty, homes etc but the GOP does????

Is that why the republican Congress took away HEAP, SNAP want to do away with Medicaid, Medicare etc. Are you really Rush Limbaugh?
                                                                                                                            August 16-17/17

NAPA Auto Parts Super DIRT Week Schedule Announced
                                                                                                                            August 16-17/17

Oswego Mayor Takes Credit
The Oswego Rotary ( project on east 1st street ) buys the sand, pavers, flowers, waters the flowers, has meetings on how to help the community and yet , you have a no show on the mayor, and , have two aldermen speak high on the mayor and No Praise to the Rotary Club ! As if HE WAS THE CREATOR OF THIS PROJECT !
Ask another question , How come monies ( from this great GOV. you know, the 10,000,000.00) are being spent for the most part , on the WEST SIDE ?
How come a property owner ( business on the east side, you know, in sales means sales taxes to the city, county, and state ) was asking for 10% of those fundings to start building reconstruction ( commercial ) and was going to pay out of pocket $ 250,000.00 ? Investment to local help, local building materials, local taxes, and has turned down by the mayor, Mr. Redick, and the Mayor has called out the dogs against this person, and this person is NOT a SLUMLOARD !
I guess the Mayor, Mr. Broadwell, Mr Avery, and others like the control game ! Remember, they count on you to NOT VOTE ! A No Vote is a yes vote for them !
Almost 4 million gun (legal ) owners in new york state, and yet Cumo got 2.1 million votes ! Do The Math !
It would nice to see people start to have more backbone that the law makers, after all, they are only trying to save there phones baloney jobs !
                                                                                                                            August 16-17/17

Water Park
So, where is this “ water park “ going to be built ? Also heard that Mr. Broadwell wants it to be named after him ! I guess he may want to rename the oswego river also !
                                                                                                                            August 16-17/17

Oswego county fair day for ARC recipients
Each summer, OCO partners with ARC of Oswego County to allow a free day for the ARC kids and adults alike that are disabled, developmentally delayed and receive services. This day has always been a HUGE event for these participants, who look forward to it tremendously. It is actually a three hour window of time that allows free rides and some games, with OCO/ARC providing some food items. Typically, it allows for kids who can't mainstream at public events, fairs, carnivals due to too much social anxiety and social expectation on them and this is one day they can celebrate being themselves and have fun like others may take for granted.

This year it was scheduled for 8.8 and it was a huge flop. Not only was there attitude directed at some of the disabled folks, but none of the ride vendors ran their rides during this pre selected 3 hour block of time. So NONE OF THE LITTLE KIDS GOT TO RIDE AT ALL. FOR ONE 7 YEAR OLD, IT WAS TO BE HIS BIG DAY, AS IT WAS HIS BIRTHDAY. Huge disappointment. Shame to the vendors that backed out on the community and shame on the coordinators who failed to negotiate this part of the event. This is planned way in advance and letters sent home, to invite the ARC recipients to attend. I know of one family that was actually directed to leave due to lack of acknowledging her letter!! They drove a significant distance for this special event. She had every right to attend with her sons. I hope for MUCH more attention to be given to the planning of this event in the future if held at all. One little boy was really hurt.
                                                                                                                            August 16-17/17

Oswego Industries
Grants grants and more grants: What good are these grants when the director of operations has had a 2 day work week for well over a year and makes a full time salaried pay check? The fab 4 have some of the nicest offices anywhere, what a waste of money. Where's Patty Richie when she is needed.

                                                                                                                              August 16-17/17







Today's  Quote August 15/2017

Knowledge comes, but wisdom lingers.
Alfred Lord Tennyson

Legislative column from Assembly Minority Leader Brian M. Kolb (R,C,I,Ref-Canandaigua)

The costs of the governor’s out-of-touch priorities are adding up for New Yorkers. This week, he unveiled his College-in-Prison Reentry Program, which will use more than $7 million in bank settlements to fund college classes for inmates. While countless students are struggling to pay rising college costs and recent graduates are suffocating under crushing loan debt, the governor has prioritized prisoners over law-abiding students and their families. It’s insulting.

The cost of education in New York is too high and mounting student debt is crushing young men and women trying to start their careers. It is shameful the governor has again chosen to chase headlines and political points rather than enact sound, common-sense public policy.


Recently, the governor’s Excelsior Scholarship Program was enacted to cover the cost of tuition at state schools for certain residents. Unfortunately, this plan does nothing to address the avalanche of debt students have accumulated and does nothing to help graduate students. It was a program the governor announced alongside Bernie Sanders and finalized next to Hillary Clinton. It’s a restrictive and narrow plan masquerading as “free” college.

We must alleviate the pressure on all students. They are New York’s future leaders, entrepreneurs and educators. It is critical we give them every advantage as they begin their journey into the workforce.


In the politically-driven fanfare, the governor failed to mention that his college tuition program affects only a tiny fraction of the state’s total student population. The Assembly Minority Conference proposed a comprehensive approach to reducing the cost of college and student debt. Our proposals include:
· Increasing the Tuition Assistance Program Household Income Threshold to $125,000 over the next three years, bringing more students into the program.

· Making TAP Awards Bigger and raising the maximum award to $6,470. Further, every TAP recipient would receive at least an increase of $500.

· Assisting Graduate Students by making them, again, eligible for the Tuition Assistance Program.

· Offering a Taxable Income Reduction on both principal and interest for those paying student loans. Single filers can receive up to $4,000, head of household filers can receive up to $6,000, and married filers can receive up to $8,000 under our proposal.
Undoubtedly, there must be programs in place to assist those reentering society from prison. However, the state’s public policy must reflect fairness, economic interests and support for those who play by the rules. The governor’s proposal, sadly, does not reflect any of those ideals.
                                                                                                                              August 15/17

Trump Family Arrest Records Shine a Whole New Light on Racist Past
Plant corn, get corn.

                                                                                                                                August 15/17


Al Sharpton ( sponsor of black lives matter and owes the taxpayers ( IRS ) 4.3 million Dollars
If he and other Libs are SOO concerned, why not teach respect to others ? Why not focus on poverty,chicago, and stand up for the American Flag ! Enough of this racial B. S. ! Obama did this for eight years, or was there no one watching, but only where there only some people concerend about getting a check from Sen Schumer ? Talk about throwing a dog a bone, Gov. Cumo is doing the same thing .
I guess people that live in the counties above new york city are okay with the fact that these law makers vote the way the Gov. and downstate lawmakers vote ! Because the upstate reps. side with downstate ! Us Upstate do not stand a chance, but i guess some are okay with this. The Lawmakers, count on the Upstate voters, Not Voting, that is how They Stay In Power ( just like our school board ) !
People that are on Public Asst. are always going to vote for the ones that PROMISE to give them more, but yet, they get less. So it is a matter of how much does one take, and how much does one who pay taxes has had enough ?
Last School Board Election and like the others before it, shows that the non voters do not care about saving monies, because money solves everything to the lazy !
Greed is never a factor, only how much more is someone going to give me ?
We need term limits on ALL POLITICIANS ! And if they come from a wealthy background, for example that dickstain from Connecticut, and his family owns the empire state building in New York State !
                                                                                                                              August 15/17

The majority of people on public assistance do not vote. They do not care who is elected because their benefits will still come no matter what.

Doug Malone
R.I.P. Doug Malone – don’t let the mufflers on the Harley annoy the angels.
                                                                                                                              August 15/17







Today's  Quote August 13-14/2017

Much that passes as idealism is disguised hatred or disguised love of power.
Bertrand Russell

I saw a car in town with "Gobbies" on the vanity plate. After watching Wentworth on Netflix, allow me to tell you its Australian slang for a blow job. Just thought you ought to know.....lmao
                                                                                                                              August 13-14/17

Re: Alex's
                                                                                                                              August 13-14/17






Today's  Quote August 12/2017

Dreams will get you nowhere, a good kick in the pants will take you a long way.
Baltasar Gracian

It Begins
Garys appeal was granted permission to proceed.

                                                                                                                                  August 12/17

Cabin diggers




Moe says, “There are no cabins, trust me.” There never was.?

Coward…won’t publicly respond to being Wrong!

And, what’s up with taking a small excavator to the site After the ME completed their forensic examination? Look at Lt. Moskal’s affidavit #8.

BTW…Wasn’t Darron a prosecution witness? He built the “cabin”, aka “fort” for a youngster, and he testified that his grandfather, the landlord of 68 Rice Road would not live with his tenant in opposition to what D. Purdy testified to. Darron also testified that he would mow Purdy’s lawn and take care of their dog Because They Were Not At Their Residence. Trust Me…if one was at the Hearing, one would KNOW the testimony.

I believe the good people who have come forward, risking ridicule and naysayers, more than I believe LE who has proven time and time again to be fabricators and twisters of facts. Kudos to all who take that risk. Their information is invaluable to the Big Picture.

Thank you for posting on your site the Facts and Truth about a case that has riveted the community for 20+ years. We want the entire truth and we want Heidi found!!











                                                                                                                                  August 12/17

Old News revelation in Heidi Allen Case
Maybe you or someone in public land would care to discuss the likely reason that Oakes filed a dismissed charge against a woman who claimed to have received Heidi’s bracelet in the mail years later. Interesting enough about that dismissed charge is that Auntie, apparently, swapped Heidi’s name for true person, and maybe twisted some other details? A whole slew of other witnesses’ past, wasn’t filed for the hearing. Was Auntie mad that someone other than she, from the family, spoke up to say something other than “We trust our law enforcement”? Auntie admits after 20+ years that “they kept it a secret” that Heidi was a CI. For 20+ years of lying, what credibility does she have to say that Heidi was in trouble and that’s why her husband got her into being a CI.

What do you think? Am I being illogical or rude for talking about a family member like that?

Sad Really that Heidi should and could have been found if not for people not wanting to take responsibility for their part in her disappearance.
                                                                                                                                August 12/17

Re: Food stamps & tattoos....
Tell me about it. I recently espied during "Welfare Week at Walmart" several tatted-up fatties with multi-colored kids pushing no fewer than three, heaping carts of food out of the store & then bitching at one another about how they were all going to fit back into their taxpayer-funded vehicle once the free-load was loaded into it. Their asses could hold a tattoo of the Cosmos as well but that's to be expected. In the meantime, I struggle busting my scrawny ass off at several jobs & since this is a water/sewer month, my f'n fridge will remain dangerously empty while hopelessly trying to pay for it and sinking deeper into f'n debt!...but at least I'll save money on sh!t-paper.
                                                                                                                                August 12/17

We can only hope
There are many wishing, praying and hoping there was a surprise coming their way. It seems though theyve gotten away with this for years. Not sure if its just hope making you believe there is a suprise around the corner.
                                                                                                                                August 12/17






Today's  Quote August 11/2017

There is no forgiveness in nature.

Ugo Betti

RT 48 Shooter

The guy is a gambling buddy of Moe Todd.

Nothing will be done about it.

                                                                                                                                  August 11/17


Food stamps and tattoos
Whenever I go to the grocery store, it's always the people who have defaced themselves with expensive tattoos that are getting their food free with food stamps. I feel like my
ever increasing tax dollars are being wasted.
                                                                                                                                August 11/17

Cabin Diggers
The people Mrs. Vechio witnessed were NOT two men. Guess Jeremy thought no one would put two and two together when they exited the woods they went in to his neighbors home. Figure out what tie chuckie has to Breckenridge. Betcha Jeremy thought no one knew who his neighbor was, or what tie this neighbor has to the Breckenridge family. Mrs. Vechio and her family are great people. She has zero reason to lie about it being two men. None. For Oakes to suggest she was mistaken who isnt mistaken with his lazy ass as DA. GUESS HE WAS TO DUMB TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHO CHUCKY WAS BEFORE HE TRIED TO CLAIM MISTAKES.
                                                                                                                                August 11/17


Fish Stand Irony
These people have a history of stealing waterfront property and now nature or God is doing it to them.

                                                                                                                                  August 11/17


Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
To the person who responded to my post about a "very important man" in the court room etc.

I do not know who the person is. I read an article on or the Peeled Onion at the time of this fiasco in 2014 that someone stated this. I have been trying to figure out who it is and my only guess would be...FBI or NYS AG assistant DA that have doubts (as they should) about the guilt, the investigation, the evidence, the jail house liars, Oakes MA story etc etc etc.

I believe like you that this will not be over no matter what the appeals court does. The "right people" in power have, it seems have had their eye on this case as it has so many holes, lies and cover ups that it just begs for attention.


Todd lied on Dateline when he said they noticed someone struggling with someone in the van....LIE! Mrs. Fabin DID NOT say that. She said it looked like the driver was struggling with SOMETHING in the van. Never said a person. I hope they put Stinson, Swenkowski, Richard T. and Bivens on the stand and have them testify. Because Swenkoski saw Richard LEAVE ALONE, Stinson said he was there BEFORE RT but never saw cars or people there.

Swenkowski stood his ground as the OCSD tried to suggest his time was off...not according to the purchase tape, or the fact that HA was seen by Swenkowski and Richard...but not by Stinson. And when Jen Wescott told them that after 20 years I still have to tell you there were 2 vans and being a still open case they did the right thing...THEY JUST LET IT GO!!!

If they think the death of Gary is going to make all this go away....surprise for you coming your way.
                                                                                                                                August 11/17









Today's  Quote August 10/2017

It is amazing how complete is the delusion that beauty is goodness.
Leo Tolstoy

Excuse me, but Alex's , PICK UP THE PHONE! Check a reference for ++++ sake! LOL. I don't know what the hell is up over on the east side. Maybe it's another ++++ing planet. A.M. that crazy bitch, I don't think she's allowed in any bars on the Westside. No way she's getting hired! She's Barred. I've seen her carried out of a few. She is ++++ed up! Whoever does the hiring over at Alex's needs to get out a little? What the ++++? I thought I was hallucinating when I saw her behind the bar. LOL.
                                                                                                                                August 10/17


Oakes' roadside conference where possible remains of Heidi may have been disposed of
First…didn’t 3 cadaver dogs indicate near the same spot?

Notice at the beginning of the video where John O’Brien is asking questions and Oakes blames him and an investigator of disturbing the area?
Notice the dates the following statements were given to police and the date of this roadside conference:
3 years later and still no apology even if Oakes didn’t know right away, surely he should have at some point soon after the conference. It didn’t occur to him that he publicly, falsely accused the wrong people of disturbing the area? (A little attention to detail may help solve the problem and answer the Question!!) AND why were the disturbers excused? Oh, that’s right, because Todd says there were no cabins back there so there was no reason to believe that Steen told Tonya about disposing of Heidi’s remains there. I get it!!



                                                                                                                                  August 10/17

Reply to death of common sense
Funny you knew about the big person who was present in court. You also knew exactly what was said. Wonder if the Sheriffs or DA are smart enough to figure out who was that was sitting on Garys side. Very few knew this person was in the court room. Very very few knew the exact comments made. You are absolutely correct. I also agree with this person present during the hearing. I do not think no matter what the courts say or do. In the end, the entire Oswego County will be taking a hit. Like one they've never seen before. This person has far more power than the little DAs playing a game. We will see, but I do think you are 100 percent correct. This person was NOT fooled by these idiots in Oswego and they made that very clear. But how you knew, is beyond me. You even quoted them correct. Not very many knew what was ever said. They also stated they could solve this case in two weeks. Seems the Sheriffs cant even after twenty three years. They did not pull the wool over this persons eyes. This person has far more power than even little Sheriff Todd.
                                                                                                                                August 10/17

SUNY Oswego
A.J. You are a joke. Instead of worrying so much about who you won't hire you should worry about who you already have. The little stories floating around are interesting. You certainly do have quite a crew with their little love interests. Well I guess the apples don't fall far from the degenerate tree cause we all have heard about your stories.
It certainly does make me wonder how the good little boy act you put on has snowed all those higher than you. They are supposed to be so smart . Also how does a certain member of you staff keep getting hired J.R. ? This is the third time around. It must be who ya know . You should be proud of yourself your a real class act.
The whole place is watching . It does take time to catch rats. Good luck bahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                                                                                                August 10/17








Today's  Quote August 9/2017

Human nature is evil, and goodness is caused by intentional activity.
Xun Kuang

Welcome To Oswego The Sex Crime Capital of New York State

Gary Thibodeau....The Death Of Common Sense
Why did Oakes tell Lisa Pebbles that he didn't have any confidence in the OCSD integrity of the OCSD investigation of the Heidi Allen crime?

Then turns around and per Jenn Wescott offers her immunity, agreed with her statement about Jenn lying on the phone, said nothing about Jenn failing a polygraph about the phone call nor about the fact that Jenn went in and told the investigator she did know about what happened to Heidi. Tony was brought up her to discredit her because if you just take someone at their word in a criminal investigation, you're either corrupt or you need to find a different job. But that is what the entire Oswego County LE did, from top to bottom.


Like one important person said at the 2014 hearing...."who do you think you're kidding Oswego?"

I have a gut feeling that even if Gary is denied by the next appeals court that this is not over. Who investigates lawyers for integrity etc? COVER UP! so obvious.
                                                                                                                                August 9/17


Have You Heard The Story About The Guy That Was So Fat, So Old And So Ugly He Could Not Get Laid In A Whorehouse?
Well I searched the internet and found a picture him. Keep in mind this is when he was much younger and slimer.


                                                                                                                                August 9/17

Oswego landlord sued for sexual harassment

                                                                                                                                  August 9/17

I did not even have to go to this link. The minute I read the headline I knew who it was.

You have a business on a shoreline , and what ? Rudy's does not have flood insurance ?

Are they that stupid ?
                                                                                                                                August 9/17








Today's  Quote August 8/2017

We are taught you must blame your father, your sisters, your brothers,

the school, the teachers - but never blame yourself. It's never your fault.

But it's always your fault, because if you wanted to change you're the one who has got to change.
Katharine Hepburn

The first Affordable Care Act enrollment season of the Trump era is still a mystery

Free Lecture By Thomas Ebert Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - 7:00 pm
Enlisted Men’s Barracks
Fort Ontario
                                                                                                                                August 8/17






Today's  Quote August 6-7/2017

Mystery creates wonder and wonder is the basis of man's desire to understand.

Neil Armstrong


RE: Maybe that guy on 48 is just shooting at crazy people, I heard he is crazy!!!!!!!

If this was the case then the hunter would be in Washington DC. That is where they keep all the crazy people right? 

                                                                                                                                  August 6-7/17



A.m. is the queen. LOL.  just figured out who she is. Took us a while. We had to go check it out to be sure.

A.M. Is the psycho bitch , used to tend bar at Ferris Wheel. She's the reason we quit going to the Wheel.  So check this out , we're  getting  drunk at the Wheel one night.. Her and this other crazy bartender start buying shots or given us shots , Whatever . All night.

We're loving it , she's hot , great big titties. The other girls cute. We thought it was great , thought we scored big-time. WRONG! LOL.

They show up at our frat house like 3 o'clock in the morning .. These two were crazy. So fucked up they could barely stand up. I thought it was gonna be the best night of my life. . So they drink us outta liquor,  then got wicked pissed because we had no Dope. LOL. Shit finally calmed down and everybody passed out. So we thought.

So we wake up the next morning . Those two crazy bitches Went through everybody's room and everybody's pockets , took every bit of cash we had in the house.  We all woke up without a nickel. That bitch is crazy. So is her friend. Neither one of them work at The Wheel no more. I didn't know that till today. I'm going to The Wheel tonight!!  

                                                                                                                                  August 6-7/17


48 shooter

The guy isn't crazy he's just stupid. You people and your drama. If it bothers you call the law they will respond. It doesn't bother me and I live close to the moron

                                                                                                                                  August 6-7/17


5 Key Psychological Traits All Trump Supporters Appear to Share

                                                                                                                                 August 6-7/17



Sunday Special At The Shooting Range! Stop on over!

Nothing like a beautiful Sunday afternoon with friends over. A nice glass of wine, steaks cooking on the grill and guess who’s shooting off the gun?


                                                                                                                                  August 6-7/17



Column from Assembly Minority Leader Brian M. Kolb (R,C,I,Ref-Canandaigua)

The $4 billion replacement of the Tappan Zee Bridge has a new name (the Governor Mario M. Cuomo Bridge) and an official opening date (August 25), but still no public details on how it will be paid for. This is inexcusable and insulting to New Yorkers whose hard-earned tax dollars will be used to subsidize the project.
However, while we continue to wait for the state to provide a detailed financial plan, the governor recently offered a sliver of information of where future bridge payments would come from. “The remainder (of the bridge costs) after 2020 will be paid with toll revenue from the entire (Thruway) system,” he said.
This is a complete about-face from the administration’s previous position, and troubling news for upstate drivers. In 2014 then-Thruway Executive Director Thomas Madison claimed, “there will be no system-wide toll increase to support the New NY Bridge project.”
Apparently things have changed – and not for the better. In essence, the public has been kept completely in the dark on this public project, and the scarce information shared in the past has turned out to be nothing more than a broken promise.

Between 2015 and 2016, the state used $2 billion in settlement funds to provide a financial bailout of the Thruway Authority. As a result, toll prices are frozen for the next two years. But after that, with a massive downstate bridge project to pay for, there is no telling how high Thruway tolls might climb. 
The governor’s recent remarks indicate that Upstate drivers will be subsidizing the costs of the bridge for an untold number of years to come. Drivers who may never cross the bridge will be paying down debt accumulated during its construction. This is an unfair approach that will harm Upstate small business owners and commuters alike. Thruway tolls are already an onerous burden for overtaxed New Yorkers. Raising prices further is an insult.
In 2012, the governor proposed an outrageous 45-percent Thruway toll hike. I was firmly against it for exactly the same reasons I oppose any new attempts to increase them; it is too expensive to get around New York. Between gasoline taxes, tolls and the damage drivers must mitigate due to the state’s crumbling roads, New York is a financial minefield for vehicle owners. Adding additional costs for farmers transporting their goods, drivers heading to work, and businesses delivering critical products and services will undoubtedly inhibit the state’s economy. People don’t need another reason to flee.
Government should be working to ease the costs on taxpayers, consumers and commuters, not exacerbate them. Naturally, infrastructure projects cost money and are necessary. But, they must be funded equitably and openly. From construction costs to the recent re-naming, the governor has made every effort to keep the public away from the details of his bridge plans. He should make the same effort to keep upstate drivers away from picking up the tab.
What do you think? I want to hear from you. Send me your feedback, suggestions and ideas regarding this or any other issue facing New York State. You can always contact my district office at (315) 781-2030, email me at, find me by searching for Assemblyman Brian Kolb on Facebook and follow me on Twitter.

                                                                                                                                 August 6-7/17








Today's  Quote August 5/2017

I am not the President. Instead, I hold an even higher office, that of citizen of the United States.

Martin Sheen

Math, Again !
Oswego, NY Firefighter, is about  $ 100.00 per Hour . Ambulance ride is TWO OSWEGO, NY FIREFIGHTERS, Two hours to process and travel to Syr. One hour to hang out, and Two Hours to come back to Oswego, NY . Please keep in mind, while they are away, Two More are called in to replace! This was Mini -Me’s money making plan for his brotherhood ! Taxpayer’s were not part of the money saving plan, but only to suck as much as they could before some one raised there hand !
Medicare pays $700.00 a ride, fire dept pays $800.00 and this does not even include fuel, cost or rent of vechile, repairs, and WHEN TWO of the AMBL. DRIVERS go on a call, TWO MORE ARE CALLED IN ! $ 800.00 ( ambl. ) plus the two called in , another $ 800.00 ( paid out by the taxpayers ) = ( aprox ) $ 1600.00 - $ 700 .00 ( medicare cost ) = -$900.00 (aprox). So it might be possible , that for every call on amble., taxpayers pay out $900.00 per call, and this does not even include cost or rent, or upkeep, or painting logo’s and upgrades or people involved in the accounting dept. for payroll or cost of vehicles !
Another new idea, why not let a outside vender ( like Menter ) worry about payroll, vechile costs, repairs, manpower and which lights to flash ?
                                                                                                                                August 5/17



Maybe that guy on 48 is just shooting at crazy people,

I heard he is crazy!!!!!!!









Today's  Quote August 4/2017

Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication
Leonardo daVincci

Nice To See The Greed ( the dems new voting base , which has been going on since 1965 )
That some lawmakers, and some people of the press, are more concerned about immigrants, refugees, than our own american taxpayers, veterans ,businesses and senior citizens , to say a few !

                                                                                                                                 August 4/17

Reply to Heidi Case
Good question seeing as not only did they pass lie detector tests, they passed pubic hair sample testing, cleared on DNA with all vehicles and on Gary own land. Why was it David Maynes was arrested for trespassing on Gary Thibodeau property at 2 am, he claimed he was snooping to make sure cops did not plant anything. Also why is it they continued this after they removed the judge whom would not let Dodd break the law. Look in to the other cases in the county that went on in 1994/1995 you will find Dodd could not get a conviction in the higher level cases with out a jail house prisoner. The lies Dodd even told about Sharon when Sheriffs officers testified that the Thibodeau's were home the evening of April 3, 1994 and not in Mass as Dodd like to make tall tales that seem to be contradicted by the Sheriff Dept. Why is it Nellis stated that Gary was arrested because he fit Bivens description of being the one dragging Heidi from the store but Todd testified it was Richard dragging Heidi from the store. To Heidi family, all respect is given but until you stop standing with the liars, you will get no further help from anyone in the public, You claim you want people to come forward but when they do you criticize them. You have souly stopped anyone from wanting to help your family. No one will come forward any further after the insane crap going on with this family. Back in 1994 not only did the family attempt to shoot at Richard and Heidi's fathers guns were taken, they then Martha Sturtz says rearmed the Allen family, I quote the uncle if we want to put a bullet in Richards head, we have the right to express that. In reality no you did not, its assault and you all should have been charged, if you succeeded in killing one of the Thibodeau brothers, you'd have been right along side of Gary in prison, but should rightfully have been there. He should never have been there. The Allen family has not been honest and it is sad, seeing as Heidi is still missing, seems they are doing nothing to help find her. They knew then she was a CI and lied to the public. My compassion goes to Heidi and not to her family whom has done a ton of hiding information for what reason? Her being a CI is important it opens doors to what may have happened to her, your family secret is NOT and WILL never be worth the life of Heidi. EVER. I will quote Fredrick Lings and Richard Stepien as they testified, they admitted the Thibodeau's were home the night of April 3, 1994 not in Mass as Dodd tried to claim for grounds to arrest Sharon. Ling said, " On April 3, 1994 around midnight, I jotted down the license plate number of the Cadillac." Well per Dodd's lies, he claims this Cadillac was in Mass. If you can not see the lies Lisa B, you shouldn't be printing any books, or blogs in regard's to your sister. Stitson also called you out on your own lies built and written in your book. Pretty sad, all of these lies are why Heidi has never been found. Dodd calls all claims against his dept. "baloney." Guess the Allen family never noticed another murder case going on at the same time as Gary's. Chavez-Flores case in 1995 in which case again two jail house prisoners were used at the same exact time and I will also quote Lanza, "Its Ridiculous, why can't cases be judged on merits, the Da can not win a case in this county with out jailhouse prisoners." I will quote myself he can not win a case without lying either and I guess the Allen family never noticed any other cases unfolding the same EXACT way. They violated every possible law to gain this conviction and Gary's case was not the only one. During 1995 Dodd had another case tossed, why cause he had two theories. SO- tell us if Gary buried Heidi on his property, like DA suggests, then why is there a theory he fled to Mass? Two theories, ILLEGAL and this case should have been tossed. In the end it will be. This is where the idiot OAKES came up with this new theory he told to citizens as he made his rounds in Oswego during re election. He claimed to citizens that they tossed Heidi's remains over a cliff in MASS. If you believe that shit story that came from DODD, seek mental help Oakes. Two officers already confirmed that was an out right lie, that you continued to spread to the public a few years ago. (which originated from none other than DODD) When real honest people start to stand up and do the job the Sheriffs refuse to. Then this case will explode and hopefully men in real suits will come wipe out the entire legislative branch of Oswego. The old news is making its rounds and this case has become a national disgrace.
                                                                                                                                August 4/17






Today's  Quote  December 31 /2016

“All the people like us are we, And everyone else is They.”

Rudyard Kipling




I like your site every day, but please stop the Trump trashing.  Elections are what they are.  I'm over 70 and we have to live with it  weather we like it or not.  You know that.  Happy New Year.

                                                                                                                                    December 31/16



Ever since the days of Newt Gingrich and the “Contract on America” the Republicans and their right-wing fundamentalist minions have been working 24/7 to force their religious and alleged conservative agenda upon what remains of working class Middle-America. They are the party of hate and I hate those mother fu**ers right back.


I am only 68 and I am a disabled veteran X3 but I will fight Trump and pukes like him until the day I die.


I will never accept that short-fingered, draft-dodging, pussy-grabbing, egomaniacal son-of-a-bitch as president.


Happy New Year to you too.




Fight for Council President

It is clear that the mayor is not supporting Shawn Walker for Council President, and, so what, he has no say in it. Walker, after his last action to screw the city out of revenue for the city from the Town of Oswego made it very clear he is in the pockets of the slumlord association. Nate Emmons is no better, and has only been on the council for less than a year. Emmons showed the entire city that by supporting the Slumlords, screwing the city taxpayers out of a new revenue stream, and his poor voting record, should eliminate him as a candidate for Council President. After his poor performance on the council for less than a year, this should eliminate him from running for any elected position, as he has demonstrated he is for sale to the highest bidder.

This leaves turn-coat VanBuren and Coradino. Nobody is going to support VanBuren based on his lousy track record .Coradino is one of the landlord clique and has not shown any leadership skills., leaving Councilor McLaughlin and Councilor Reynolds. Reynolds has less than a year and is still learning, and McLaughlin certainly has the skills and leadership, but is smart enough not to want the job.

Here they go again, trying to select the best of the worst candidates, by a group of councilors that have no desire to serve the people or city, and are in it for what they can get out of it.

Seems that VanBuren, Walker, Emmons have show their propensity to corruption, so that leaves Coradino, a landlord to try to lead the pack. 

                                                                                                                                December 31/16





Richard Thibadeau's Van

In The Possession Of The Oswego County Sheriff's Department.

All of the doors are black and

there is a large black stripe down each side.

Only the front is all white


OCSD investigators took statements from people describing a white van and or a light blue van.

A 10-year-old with 20-20 vision or a visually impaired 110-year-old will tell you this is not a white van.



This is a BLACK AND WHITE van.

ANYONE WHO GAVE A DESCRIPTION (from a view other than head on),




Inside sources say the OCSD has recently conducted yet another search/inspection of Richard Thibadeau's van and again found no DNA or any other evidence.


That is at least twice they have proven there is no connection between Thibadeau's van and the disappearance of Heidi Allen!



Fire department
Does anyone know if our resident fire department THIEF is one of the firefighters being laid off? If not he should be.
Looks like he is trying to impersonate a Fire Chief, maybe he is going to apply for the Chief's job next year.

This is OZ he/she could be the next chief.

Who made a noise

In David Stinson's statement, given on 4-8-1994 @ 3:56 pm, he says: "This all occurred in about 1-2 minutes. I waited a few minutes for the clerk. I remember hearing something in the back room to the left.

This sound reassured me that someone was there and I waited patiently for the clerk."




To the left? By the back door, the one not everyone knew about? The one the "family" used? Look at this picture closely, see the plywood covering up the old back door, to the left. Who was back there?


                                                                                                                                                 September 29/16


If the back room looked anything like what can be seen outside the back door he probably heard rats.




Today's  Quote  September 22/2016

“We were making the future, he said, and hardly any of us troubled to think what future we were making.

And here it is!”

H. G. Wells

I read what you did, and we all know who you are!
I read what you did, and we all know who you are! Donald Dodd, Reuel Todd, Greg Oakes, Mark Moody, Daniel King, and Donald Todd

As a citizen of this county, you all work for me, not each other. This is too inform you that I am calling you out, for the truth !
I have read all of the information you filed. There is no glaring evidence against Gary Thibodeau, because if there was, you would have had to file it. Further witheld evidence
would constitute another Brady Violation. I pondered today what in the world the former jurors were told in Gary's trial by you, Donald Dodd. Your timeline is preposterous. It is not even worth mentioning. Reuel Todd, please tell me what led you to the Thibodeau brothers? I cannot find any supporting documentation that sends the case towards them. A criminal never calls and identifies themselves, as being at the scene of the crime. Who is Borrelli, and why were you going so far as to talk about him being in a photo line up for the clerks at the D&W 4-16-1994, but on 4-14-1994, Borrelli was given "walking papers" yesterday. That would have made it 4-13-1994. On 4-15-94, you say:" Is it time to do a photo line up on Borrelli?" So you gave Borrelli "walking papers", I believe that means you let him go, on 4-13-94, but on 4-15-94 and again on 4-16-94, you were going to have the clerks at the D&W look at his picture? But after 4-16-94, Borrelli is never mentioned again.

On 4-14-94, the lead sheet says, "Danny Barney, has come into view as a probably suspect". On 4-15-94, the lead sheet says: Wheeler interviewed Dan Barney yesterday,
at length. Believes Barney is not a suspect." Where are the notes from the interview with Dan Barney? 4-15-94, it says, "late yesterday, Gary Thibodeau, entered the picture as a possible suspect. This developes from a lead that came in early on." Where is the lead, Moe? I can't find any documentation of a lead about Gary, being a suspect. Who told you Gary had a crush on Heidi? Or that Gary was ever coming on to Heidi? The only documentation about anyone coming onto Heidi, is in her diary, about her boss, Matt Duell, not Gary.

The case against Gary Thibodeau, regarding Heidi Allen's abduction, is all like the above mentioned fairy tales. This person is a suspect, no, we let him go. Hey, this person might have done it, no, we talked to him and he said he didn't do it. So you decided amongst yourselves, to pin it on a person and his brother, that you had no evidence against, only a citizen that was trying to help you.

So I say that the Appellate Division will get the public the answers we have been seeking for 22 years. Dumb of us to ever believe that our District Attorney's Office, or
Sheriff's Department, were honest or truthful. All you were looking for was someone to blame it on, to puff yourselves up, but I'm sure soon, it will be deflated, like yesterday's
birthday balloons. The public doesn't believe you, trust you, or support corrupt officials.

                                                                                                                                           September 22/16

Oakes habitual liar
Oakes you are a bold faced liar anyone with a computer and access to this blog can see how much of a liar you are. In 1994/95 arrest and conviction of Gary Thibodeau. Fahey repeatedly requested the CI file, he was told Allen wasnt an informant. He then requested a dismissal due to with holding of evidence. The old news reports do not support Oakes bull shit lies. Fahey over and over called Dodd, out on this CI status and requested her entire CI file. Again they played the Allen wasnt a CI. take the time to study openly on your own. The DA office are hubitual liars and so are the Sheriffs. Request a state police if you need an officer. The lies are sickening. The Sheriff dept. Should be shut down.
                                                                                                                                           September 22/16

In Again Out Again Breckenridge
Roger Breckenridge out of Prison
Identifying and Location Information
As of 09/21/16 DIN (Department Identification Number) 13B0403
Date of Birth 08/11/1968
Race / Ethnicity WHITE
Custody Status RELEASED
Housing / Releasing Facility GOWANDA
Date Received (Original) 02/14/2013
Date Received (Current) 06/03/2016
Admission Type
County of Commitment OSWEGO
Latest Release Date / Type (Released Inmates Only) 08/25/16 PAROLE DIV OF PAROLE

Crimes of Conviction
If all 4 crime fields contain data, there may be additional crimes not shown here. In this case, the crimes shown here are those with the longest sentences.
As of 09/21/16 Crime Class

Sentence Terms and Release Dates
Under certain circumstances, an inmate may be released prior to serving his or her minimum term and before the earliest release date shown for the inmate.
As of 09/21/16 Aggregate Minimum Sentence 0001 Years, 00 Months, 00 Days
Aggregate Maximum Sentence 0004 Years, 00 Months, 00 Days
Earliest Release Date
Earliest Release Type
Parole Hearing Date 06/2016
Parole Eligibility Date 10/24/2013
Conditional Release Date NONE
Maximum Expiration Date 11/02/2016
Maximum Expiration Date for Parole Supervision
Post Release Supervision Maximum Expiration Date
Parole Board Discharge Date

                                                                                                                                                 September 22/16


Today's  Quote  September 19-20/2016

“Whether one eats a cat or not is a personal choice, and I don't want to sway anyone one way or another.

But if you do, there is one obvious cooking tip: Always remember to remove the bell from the cat's collar before cooking.”
Mike Royko


Gary Thibodeau...The death of common sense
Are the prosecution witnesses really witnesses as to what they saw or are they just a link to a prosecution procedure that convicted an innocent man.

Witnesses provide information to help the prosecutor convince a jury that a person is guilty as charged.

- Dave Stinson: was there from 7:41 - 7:45, waved down a deputy but did not tell him that he saw a kidnapping.
- Richard was there and left at 7:42 and was seen by Stinson (at least he had to be) but not seen kidnapping HA.
- Stinson walked in after 7:42 and no Heidi. Now how could Richard have done this in one minute, with Stinson being there but did not see anything. He also never mentioned that he saw anyone let alone Gary.
- Mr. Swenkowski said he watched Richard leave the store and then left. He was there at 7:41 also.
- Swenkowski also saod he saw one person.
- Two people there at the time of the crime and saw nothing.
- Bivens said he saw two husky men and a women but NO TIME WAS MENTIONED IN THE DA's STATEMENT OF FACTS.
- So this makes a question of when Bivens was there. Had to be after and close to 7:42 according to the OCSD as that is when Richard bought cigs and left.
- How could Bivens see the crime and Swenkowski and Stinson didn't although they had to be there at the same time because Stinson walked in at 7:41 and no Heidi.
- Bivens stated that he did not remember telling a deputy later that he had driven by at 8-8:30. He saw the crime, then Stinson has to be mistaken about HA not being in the store. Which could happen but he flagged down Deputy Curtis and he also checked for Heidi...not found.
- Stinson said he saw two husky men with a girl in the parking lot. He said there wasn't anyone or cars in the lot.
Wasn't Stinson and Swenkowski there per their statements. Swenkowski also said the deputies tried to convince him that his time was off but he stood his ground on the time he gave.
- I personally don't believe Bivens was even there..(just my opinion). His time is way off and no time was recorded when he first gave his statement according to the DA's time given with his statement. Why not?
- Then we have Gary going to a MA prison and snitches give stories that we now know are not true.
- Bottom line: two witnesses there at the time of the crime but did not see Richard taking Heidi. Bivens saying he saw two husky men taking her (but no time was given by him) but Swenkowski and Stinson were there and did
not see anything.
To the DA involved in this. You sir have NO WITNESSES AT ALL! Maybe a story teller but if at least you should have had three witnesses. Bivens could not have seen a crime between 8-8:30 because the OCSD was there at that time.

I submit to you that you set up a frame of Richard and Gary Thibodeau (and a bad one that is full of holes) got bad info from snitches who I think lied and their statement proves it.

So I am going to ask in this paper right now to Donald Dodd to please answer my question: How did three people there at the time of the crime and two didn't see anything and one who didn't even know or did not want to tell what time he was there, which had to be around 7:41-7:42 did see the crime?

If I were you, I would be afraid, very afraid of a federal Investigation. If no investigation happens if Gary wins his appeal, call your state representative, senator and anyone else that would help.

                                                                                                                                           September 19-20/16

speed indicators
If the speed indicator says you’re over the limit, is there a cop around to give you a ticket?
If there is a cop why do we need a speed indicator?
Are there cameras on the speed indicator to take a picture of the driver and the license plate?
Is this another waste of the taxpayer’s money?
Big Brother is watching you.

                                                                                                                                                 September 19-20/16







Today's  Quote  September 18/2016

"True wisdom is less presuming than folly.

The wise man doubteth often, and changeth his mind; the fool is obstinate,

and doubteth not; he knoweth all things but his own ignorance."

Buske Book
The book is largely based on secondhand information from the Sheriff’s Department, the District Attorney’s office and family members. The Sheriffs lied, the D.A. lied and the family lied so that basically makes the book fiction.
                                                                                                                                           September 18/16

Why wasn't this in the police blotter,

Another IT issue??Records: Man threatens to rape teen in Oswego parking lot before sexually abusing her


                                                                                                                                                 September 18/16

Show Up Time
So if a OFD is called in, but sent home with in one hour, that person gets five hours of time and a half ( 7.5 of straight time ) . Do these people get called in , maybe four times with in a 24 hour period ? So maybe , one of these hereo’s could collect twenty hours of time and a half ! That comes down to ¾ ( or 7.5 % of a full paycheck Per Day ) .

20 hours per shift x $ 125.00 per hour = $ 2,500.00 per man ! And if they call in four men x $ 2,500.00 = $ 10,000.00 per shift ( 24 hour ) . So you could be spending $ 70,000.00 per week in show up time ! Which, in the worse case world ,would be $ 70,000.00 x 52 weeks = $ 3,640,000.00 a year, which, at this time, I do not think that the Famous OFD Ambl. Corp. could recoup! The chief eithers understands how to protect the membership , and does not care about the taxpayers, or is really bad at math ( checks and balances ). Maybe big brother can do some 2nd and 3rd mathbook coin sckills!
                                                                                                                                           September 18/16

Probably visited Syracuse Ave. No. Wrong, if he had he would not have been arrested.


I would be surprised if that guy was not seeing a male prostitute

                                                                                                                                                 September 18/16


RE: Four More Misdemeanor Plea Bargains For Oaks

We should start a fund me page to pay there cellmates to beat and rape them every day.

                                                                                                                                                 September 18/16


In order to have cellmates they would have to be convicted of something bigger than a misdemeanor.

The Heidi controversy
I was under the direct impression. Heidi switched her schedule with Sally Brooks. Who was suppose to be working at the Fish on in port Ontario. Either way. There are conflicting stories from Heidi family and the DA office. If she was not scheduled the only ones who would be aware of this switch. Are her family, Brett and DUELLS, in which case Ms. Duell file seems to have been tampered with. Very convenient. No one else would ever have known. Unless Heidi told someone. I very much likely doubt that was her topic of discussion.
                                                                                                                                           September 18/16

Re: Gary Thibodeau and the Other 10,000 a Year Wrongfully Convicted in America


                                                                                                                                                 September 18/16

Re: Whos Lying
We know the Family lied, The OCSD lied and the DA lied.
Since the book is based on information which mostly came from these three sources then the answer to the question is everyone.
                                                                                                                                           September 18/16

It's common sense

Why would Donald Dodd or Todd know more. Hmmm, maybe because they supposedly investigated and prosecuted this case.

No matter what you post. The fact is. They should have known. Both her sister and their dept. All have different times,

ones clearly lying. I'll bet it is not Lisa Buske, but the DA office that was said in 1994 to be out of touch with the public

and their mistakes cost human lives. They were also in trouble back then for many different reasons. From lying, to

prosecutorial misconduct. If you read the old news. You'd be well aware of their tricks. I highly doubt her sister is bull

shitting anyone in her book. But I do not doubt that the DA office did a ton. Many people do not agree with your

questions as to how could Dodd or Todd know. Well in order to prosecute this case you'd think they should have.

Ridiculous remarks.
                                                                                                                                           September 18/16



Heidi often offered to work on the holidays.
Regarding Easter Sunday, another employee Sally Brooks, and Heidi, were willing to work; initially Ms. Brooks
was scheduled to open, but she had another job that needed her that morning. Therefore, Heidi agreed to open
the store that morning.



The day started like Easter Sunday did in other small American towns. Heidi arrived at work early, anticipating
the time she would spend with family and friends later in the afternoon. She volunteered to cover the morning shift
so a coworker could spend the holiday with her children, even though it meant she would be the only one working at the store.

                                                                                                                                           September 16/16

If She was working for someone else how were Gary and Richard supposed to know this?????

Did Deputy Van Patten drop her work schedule in the parking lot?????


More questions
Why was the first register tape transaction 4:06?
Why does the book say Heidi started work at 5am?
Why does testimony show Heidi started work at 6am?
Why does testimony show Heidi was on the schedule to work that Sunday?
Why is a “story” that another person was originally scheduled but Heidi took over instead?
Why does testimony show Brett left at 6:35am that Easter morning but the book says around 7:15am?
The inmates statements were taken mid-July.
Why did OCSD get the transaction tape from April 2, 1994 on August 11?
Why was Mrs. Duell’s file tampered with on August 12?
Why did Bivens testify at Grand Jury that he was in the D&W parking lot and the only car there was Heidi’s, his first

statement says he went by the D&W between 8-8:30 but his testimony was leaving Oswego at 7:30am, and his

testimony was about witnessing a physical altercation?
How could Richard and/or Gary have possibly gone to the D&W the morning of April3, 1994, taken Heidi to near Gary’s “to talk to her” brought her back to the store before anyone noticed her gone, made a purchase and then kidnapped her with the time between ALL the customers that were there the morning of April 3, 1994?

Final answer-People lied to help get a quick conviction, in hopes of finding Heidi or “getting their man” to placate the community after Mr. Benningfield told the searchers that the kidnapper could be standing there next to them.

Lisa-you did the research years ago. You know part of the Truth….that Gary and Richard are innocent. Do what’s right. You have plenty of support. Stand up to your family and the lying people you have, unjustly, high regards for.
                                                                                                                                           September 16/16

Here is a direct link to the comments Murtagh has made online. The top comment reads.
FBI on case has been on it for years they feel they have the right guy in jail
Posted on Key Heidi Allen witness texts pal: I lied to police about what I know
10/24/2014 10:32 AM
Which is an out right lie. As we are all aware FBI Points to Bohrer. In 1994 they testified then that there was no link between the Thibodeaus and Heidi Allen.
Murtagh also can not deny it was him. Several times. He makes it very clear. It is him.
Please ask john on this he knows who I am ( Rich Murtaugh )
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/12/2014 8:28 PM
He openly admits twice of removing a van from Valley Road in Fernwood. But no ones paying attention.
                                                                                                                                           September 15/16

Murtagh Confirmed
Murtagh confirmed no caddy in his posts online. So where Oakes got that from is beyond me. Murtagh admits and so did Breckenridge of picking up a van at Gary's. But no idea of a caddy.
I believe he said I towed a van from there not a caddie .. Jmo though
Posted on Oswego County DA: James Steen is pathological liar, but not Heidi Allen's killer
10/22/2014 8:33 AM
Don't no nothing bout caddy
Posted on Oswego County DA: James Steen is pathological liar, but not Heidi Allen's killer
10/22/2014 2:55 AM -Richard Murtagh. So if Oakes wants to use a hearsay witness. He should probley listen to the tower, that was there. No caddy. Sorry Oakes. You did lie in your filing. Little or big, it's a lie. You were giving some impression that the Caddy Dodd brought up was disposed of as well. It is not the truth.
                                                                                                                                           September 15/16

Who's lying game!

Time to compare some facts, between the book, "Where's Heidi", written by Lisa Buske, sister of Heidi, and DA Greg Oakes, Statement of Facts, filed October of 2015.

STATEMENT OF FACTS, page 1, SAYS: On Easter morning, April 3, 1994, Mr. Law arose at 5:45 am at Heidi's residence. He and Heidi left the residence at ab out 5:50am, and Mr. Law followed Heidi to the D&W Convenience Store. Heidi drove her maroon 1984 Pontiac Sunbird Station Wagon, and Mr. Law drove his 1987 Ford Bronco. They arrived at the store at 5:55 am.

Lisa Buske's Book says: Chapter 3 "A Time to weep" , Paragraph 3, page 35: As my parents settled into their swivel chairs, Ed sat on the couch while I snuggled into my favorite childhood chair. We heard Brett's black Dodge Cougar pull into the driveway then Heidi's feet skipping through the kitchen.

Chapter 1 Page 26: At 5 am, on April 3, 1994, Heidi opened up the D&W Convenience Store, located at the intersection of State Route 104 and State Route 104B, and her boyfriend Brett came along to keep her company until the store got busy. Brett often accompanied her on those early mornings.

STATEMENT OF FACTS page 1, last paragraph, last sentence, SAYS: Mr. Law left at about 6:35 that morning.

Lisa Buske's Book page 26, last sentence, says: Brett left the store around 7:15 am

Who's wrong? Who's telling a story? What was Brett driving, a Cougar, or a Bronco? Hey Oakes, did you ever check your "facts"? These facts, are very important, maybe you don't know which is true, who's playing the liar game?
                                                                                                                                           September 15/16


The other day there was a fire on East 4th Street and I heard that we called in all of our off duty personnel but then sent them home pretty quickly. Don't they all get a minimum of like 5 hours overtime every time they are called in. So much for saving money on overtime. How come we don't call on any of the other departments in the county to help us when there is a fire. The volunteer departments wouldn't cost us any money and could probably get here quicker then some of our off duty members that live quite a distance away. Just my 2 cents.
                                                                                                                                           September 15/16


RE: Lies more lies Oakes
Oakes is using classic inadmissible hearsay and uncorroborated rumor to bolster LE’s theory of how Richard and Gary were involved?

Did Mr. Neadle testify? Did Mr. Neadle hear Gary say what Mr. Maynes claimed?

Wow, would have expected more from a top LE official. You studied this case for how long? Shame on you for believing/going along with the sham.
Love all the documents you provided in your Statement of Facts, Affirmations, and Exhibits. Can you publicize more? Please!!
                                                                                                                                           September 12/16




Today's  Quote  September 11/2016

“The most erroneous stories are those we think we know best - and therefore never scrutinize or question.”
Stephen Jay Gould

Lies, lies, lies
1. Gary "confessed" to 2 inmates.
2. Illegal search of Gary's property that yielded evidence of Heidi.
3. Phone wire taps.
4. Human bones in furnace.
5. Remains in rolled rug of blue van.

These lies are so easily exposed from the documents made public in DA Oaks' filing it's borderline comical that some people still believe them.

Truth, truth, truth

1a. news article 1995-Dodd says inmates did not say Gary admitted involvement. This is corroborated by the inmates' statements, trial testimony, and by more recent interview with a news reporter.
2a. Fahey tells Judge in pre-trial Hearing there were 2 searches of Gary's property. No pre-trial Hearing was held due to illegal evidence gathered and testimony reflected details of items seized and/or sent to FBI lab. Both searches occurred while Gary was incarcerated. First search on or about June 22, 23 when furnace was seized. Second was on or about July 24 when property was searched and 5 cadaver dogs brought to site with no alerts of human remains. There is indication from Oaks filing that the July 24 search was by warrant. NOTE: blue van was on property for all days of searching and evidence gathered from that van was also testified to.
3a. Phone records were subpoenaed for the MA witnesses. These witnesses were incorrect about Gary and Sharon being in MA on April 3, 4, 5 with a broken down Caddy because deputies positively viewed the Caddy at Gary's property during that time frame.
4a. Testimony shows that no human remains were found from forensic testing and bone fragments were more consistent with animal.
5a. Evidence first gathered from Richard's van on April 9, 1994 which showed no evidence of Heidi "ever" being in that van. Evidence showed that van was seen at a car wash after April 9. Piece of rug that was missing since the first search was found on Richards property. Property receipt given to Thibodeau's, forensically tested to reveal canine DNA. Witness statement about Richard and Gary seen disposing of a rug in the woods with Heidi's remains was proven false by evidence that Richard was working at the time and no physical evidence that Heidi was there (law enforcement physically went to location). Testimony shows that evidence was taken from the blue van during the search on or about June 22 that did not link to Heidi. Testimony from recent Hearing shows that after August 1994 when the blue van was junked, there was no evidence of Heidi in a rolled rug that was in the van.

Questions that should be answered:
Why is there a 40 minute gap between Brett's testimony of leaving the D&W and the time the book says?
Why did law enforcement and family say Heidi wasn't a CI when a Sergeant recognized her as a CI?
Why wasn't the bulk storage Heidi file boxes made available to Defense?
Why weren't the fingerprints from the index card used in conjunction with the notebook fingerprints?
How did Mike have a fax statement of Bivens with the Oswego County DWI unit phone number?
Why was the first time on the register transaction record 4:06?
Why did Brett testify in Gary's trial that Heidi wasn't afraid of anyone in particular but in Richard's he mentions Matt Duell?
Why does Dodd affirm during a pre-trial Hearing that he was withholding information and wouldn't say what he was withholding if he was going to make "the entire OCSD file" available to Defense?
Why wasn't the fact that Sharon and Richard were acquitted of their charges relevant to Gary's Appeal in 1999?
Why wasn't Wheeler reprimanded for lying during a pre-trial Hearing?
Why isn't Pietrowski being held accountable for missing texts?
Why does Todd keep lying to the public?
Why doesn't Oaks do what's right in the miscarriage of Justice?
How could Heidi's family stand behind law enforcement after all that has been made public?
Why was Jennifer the only recently named given a polygraph?
Why is law enforcement covering for convicted criminals when 3 dogs indicate in an area related to the boasting of several criminals?
Why was an excavator brought to the cabin site without the medical examiner present?
When will the Appellate Division begin hearing oral arguements?
Why was it not relevant to Gary's jurors that several witnesses admitted during trial to misconduct by law enforcement in relation to their written statements?
When will the insanity of "Justice was served" end?
Who will be the first to "tell the whole truth and nothing but the Truth"?
Who will man-up and answer - WHERE'S HEIDI?

Compare the theory of Gary and Richard being involved in the disappearance of Heidi and what is known as Fact and compare that to the recent revelations.....#FreeGary.
                                                                                                                                           September 11/16

Lies more lies Oakes
This is how bad the DA office adds to words from Witnesses. Read #179. Bold faced lie. Oakes directs you to exhibit 12, as proof. He says that Roger towed a van and a CADILLAC off Gary's property. Exhibit 12 from Mr. Needles. Says no such thing. He only says that Roger and David Maynes towed a van off Gary's property and Gary was passed. David was bragging about getting arrested for trespassing on Gary's property. Well, if the old junk van sat on Gary's property for over ten years. And it did not run, move, and was never owned by Gary. But the DA wants to give the picture this van could have been used and David and Roger disposed of it. Please, explain why Gary would be pissed for them disposing of what Oakes would like to believe was evidence, or the possible van used. Give me a break, I'm certain if it was, he would have been relieved they got rid of the evidence. Oakes, you sir, are the dumbest DA in this country. You also claim that Kidnapping/murder/disposing of a van across the country lines has a five year statue of limitations. Murder DA jokes has no limitations nor does the evidence in its case. Disposing of evidence with possibly a murdered teen, disposed of in Canada, has no statue of limitations. You sir, must truly think the citizens of Oswego are morons. See attached comments, exhibit 12 and Jokes statue of limitations of five years, to help protect a convicted Murderer Steen. I do not know which ones more psychotic. Ocsd, DA office, or these suspects.

                                                                                                                      September 11/16


To Oakes
It can't be simple. Either way. You do not think outside of the box, let alone inside of it. Richard or as your exhibit 12 mr. Needles calls him Dicki Murtagh actually plastered across the internet one night, that he and a employee did haul a van out of Fernwood, off valley road at a red house. Now this red house was very Good friends to Michael Bohrer. It couldn't be Oakes that they covered their ass by moving a van off Gary's property. So they could move this second van on Valley Road. And say it was the van they moved off Gary's. Oakes you can not possibly be that stupid. It's common sense. In which case you lack a shit load, I believe you should track down Mr dicki and request he explain the white van they removed off Valley Road, in Fernwood, for Roger Breckenridge. Around the time of Heidi. If you need a copy of those messages. They can easily be supplied. You also cannot claim it wasn't Murtagh who posted them. A reporter called him out online confirming it was indeed Richard Murtagh.
Omg please no mistake we (3 of us) picked up two vans at gt house ... Me roger & a 3rd person picked up a dift van in fern wood I can't tell you where it was but I'm sure I can drive right to there like I did last week going to Gary's house ( that I had only been to twice before in the 90's
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:25 PM
It was a red house is all we can remember
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:17 PM
I'm sorry I don't I'd just be guessing but one of my helpers just asked me if I remember going to fern wood to get a white van at 1st didn't remember but after talking a bit I do now
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:08 PM
No in fern wood ( I think that's how you spell it
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:05 PM
Omg I don't know I just remember him coming to me wanting me to pick one up for him .. Never gave it much thought till tonight talking it over with my staff
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 10:55 PM
You all ready for this one ????? I do remember going with RB to fern wood to pick up a white van that he had to junk back around same time of the ha deal
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 10:52 PM
Copied right from, I think you need to start using the laws set in place that were meant to help victims. Not protect murderers.
I'd also explain to Dickie, those involved. Do not get the reward money.
Is there still a cash award up & if so how much is it .. What you got to do to receive it ty
Posted on Judge in Heidi Allen case reverses decision, will allow DA to respond to wrongful conviction claim
9/19/2014 5:48 PM
Pretty sick Murtagh plastered that across the internet. Then requests the reward money. What a great guy. With zero conscience.

                                                                                                                                           September 11/16

Mrs. Duell testified about the register tape, items purchased and time...??
It strikes me as odd that "The time had to be entered into the memory of the cash register. (Tr. 1488)."

Could it be possible that the register tape was...manipulated when the deputy went back on August 11, 1994 to get the register tape from April 2, 1994? Mrs. Duell's OCSD file was tampered with on August 12, 1994.

RE: Questions to be answered
Deputy Curtis testified in the original trial that the money from the register was deposited in the bank. (DA's Statement of Facts does not state this.)

-Sergeant Lortie specifically calls Heidi a "confidential informant" and recognizes her name from working with the ACT team.
It appears his involvement with the case after this report became limited?

-Family, LE and Dodd's denial that Heidi was a "CI".

-Neither VanPatten nor Mrs. Duell notify Heidi or the family of the information dropped in public.? (Thinking they may have considering Brett would stay at Heidi's work until customer traffic picked up.)

-The informants card, photo, etc was "lost" from the time of the Heidi Center move until it was "found" in bulk storage within OCSD on May 16, 1995.

-Pre-trial Hearing Judge's acknowledgment that Dodd was not going to say what he was holding back as far as discovery.

-No mention whatsoever from either Defense or Prosecution during Gary's trial that Heidi may have been a confidential informant. Dodd didn't carry the card, photo, the original trial? There were 2 prints on the card taken to the Heidi Center right after the disappearance but LE used notebook prints instead? One would think the prints taken in a controlled manner would be more relevant?

-Mrs. Burr recently signs a statement about Heidi's involvement with LE in an informant capacity up to a short time before her disappearance. Brett's recent dialogue with Oakes about Heidi being afraid of a "coke-head" that lived near the D&W.

**"Good arrest, good conviction"....PPPfffttt**

                                                                                                                                            September 9/16

Lorti Report

“Writer and VanPatten returned to the store and were informed that Inv. Scruton could not locate C.I. file for Allen. VanPatten was Allens contact for ACT Team so writer asked VanPatten if he turned the file over to Inv. Scruton. He did not recall Allen as a C.I. in 1991 until writer reminded him. VanPatten then called the office and had someone check his mailbox. The file was located and relayed to the crime scene.”
Sgt. Lortie’s report 4/27/94

When you see the date of this report 4/27/94 you have to wonder if it was the original or a revised report. Otherwise why would it take 23 days to get it done.

I think everyone knows cops will not rat out other cops but honest cops will not take a hit for crooked ones either. If you ask an honest one to give a statement or testify they will often tell you the facts as they happened. They will not volunteer anything someone in authority has to ask. In many cases those in authority know or suspect the answers they will get so they do not ask the questions, i.e. Watergate and Serpico.

At any rate that just may be what is happening in the paragraph above. After 23 days Sgt. Lortie has had time to think over what has been going on.


VanPatten somehow manages to lose Allen’s picture ID card indicating she was an informant, and he does it in the parking lot where she works.


Three years after working directly with Allen as a Confidential Informant he tells Sgt. Lortie he does not remember her. Then in the next breath VanPatten knows exactly where to find Allen’s missing C.I. file.

At that point someone should have been asking VanPatten to account for his whereabouts on the morning of April 3/1994.


re Timleine
According to testimony from Brett Law, he left the store at 6:35am BUT according to the book “Where’s Heidi” page 27, Brett left at 7:15am. Which is it? It makes a VERY big difference. 40 minute difference. The difference between the inmates being truthful or not.
According to the timeline, there were no customers between 7:20am and 7:38am. That would leave 18 minutes for the “confession” to be true.,-76.3313641/427+Kenyon+Road,+Mexico,+NY+13114/@43.4530542,-76.337867,12z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x89d9cf6a2081d4f5:0x52037ef6ff1a0e38!2m2!1d-76.2014678!2d43.4278613!3e0

It takes about 16 minutes one way from the D&W to Gary’s house.

                                                                                                                                            September 8/16

Questions That Should Be Answered!

Sunday, April 3 1994 @ 2:00 AM was the beginning of daylight savings time.

Was every witness interviewed asked if they were referencing their recollection of time based on standard time or had they set their clocks ahead and based their statements on savings time????

“The first entry on the tape was 4:06 when the cash register was turned on.”
“When Heidi arrived at work she set the time on the cash register”
“The detail tape then showed three zeros and then gave the correct time of 5:55 am.”
Therefore Heidi “started her drawer at five minutes to 6:00 am.”

If Heidi was setting the time on the register because of daylight savings time Then the register should have shown the time as 4:55 when it was turned on.

Why was it at 4:06? AM? PM?
Did the register keep the correct time?

“6:16 am no sale entry on detail tape (Tr. 1515)”
Nine minutes before her boyfriend Bret Law left the store
someone hits the no sale button presumably to open the cash drawer. Did anyone balance the money in the drawer with the sales listed on the tape? Was all accounted for? If the answer is yes then what was the reason for the no sale entry?

At 5:45 Bret and Heidi wake up.
At 5:50 the two get in a car and drive to the store.

Are we talking about a couple of average teenagers or is this Wonder Woman and Superman?
Come on, who do you know that wakes up from a sound sleep, gets dressed, brushes their hair, maybe teeth and puts on makeup and is out the door in five minutes?

Scientifically impossible
If you actually looked at the timeline.
At 7:41 stitson arrives, at 7:41 a man cashes out he buys one pack of smokes and two newspapers. At 7:41 Stitson describes the store clerk missing. At 7:42 Richard shows up buys smokes. In the mean time. The 7:41 customer packs his smokes in his car, watches Richard enter and exit the store. Mean while stitson in the store waiting on the clerk, as Richard passes him, cashes out and is never seen by Stitson. As Richard cash out time was 7:42. So the kidnapping didn't take place from 7:41 -7:42 it took place between 7:43/7:44. At 7:45 a cop was on the scene and at 7:45 a van is seen in the town of Mexico ten miles away. By science you'd have to be traveling over 150 mph to make it in two minutes to where the van was spotted in Mexico. The time line is scientifically impossible. How does Heidi, the newspaper customer,Stitson and thibodeau all appear on the scene together. No one saw Gary or Heidi being taken. How do you travel 150 mph, on snowy roads?
                                                                                                                                            September 7/16

Here's another exaggerated example of OCSD, AND DODD.
SOMETIME between 7:30 / 7:45 a.m. umm not. Richard never cashed out until 7:42 a.m. the van was seen three minutes later at 7:45 a.m. we know she had cashed Richard out at 7:42 a.m. So between 7:43/7:45 is the only time that van could have been spotted in Mexico. Two minutes. Use a speed converter online you are up over one hundred and fifty mph, they'd have been traveling to be in Mexico at 7:45 a.m. Dodd did nothing but cross witnesses with other witnesses and confuse everyone with so many times, dates and so many witnesses. He messed up. Four people would have been on the scene. Not just Richard or Stitson. But the man whom bought the two newspapers clearly says he sat in his car for a minute and watched Richard exit the store. So that would have taken place after 7:42 a.m. we can determine these times due to the cash register receipt and the evidence Dodd entered in court on his time line of events. Which none of it adds up. There was no 7:30 7:45 a.m. Richard had not cashed out yet. So if the van was seen between these times. It clearly wasn't Richards van.
                                                                                                                                            September 7/16

Bobby Wheeler

April 14, 1994-Bobby interviews Dan Barney "at length" but doesn't take notes or record the interview.?
April 14, 1994-Gary becomes "prime suspect" in briefing which Bobby attended.
May 19, 1994-Bobby receives fax from MA police about Gary's warrant.
May 25, 1994-Gary arrested on the warrant.
Late July 1994-Bobby and Herb interview both inmates.

April 18, 1995-Bobby testifies at a pre-trial (Huntley) hearing that he didn't know Gary was a suspect before his warrant arrest.
May 1, 1995-Fahey files pre-trial Motion, in part, to request sanctions against Bobby for lying during the pre-trial Hearing (Huntley Hearing).
                                                                                                                                            September 7/16

Re:Gary Thibodeau
Whoever you are supporting Gary Thibodeau and ripping apart the filing from the DA, outstanding. Some things you posted. I missed. Keep it up. They deserve any humiliation that comes their way. If the community cared about their environment and the sick things the DA and Officers in that county have done. They'd have a better community and safer community for themselves and their families. Instead the majority doesn't stop to smell the roses. If they did. They'd realise they do not smell so grand after all. It takes a big person to not only help, but to spend time paying attention and caring about others. Many have helped. Many still are. I can not wait to see these aholes from Oswego face the lies they've dished out for years. I can only imagine how many other cases they have botched to get a conviction. Dodd was told then you have zero evidence. He will be told again, in supreme. How awful a person they all are for incarceration of an innocent man. Dodd deserves prision, Oakes to be removed from office, sheriff Todd deserves to be a greeter at wal Mart. Petrowski deserves a set of cuffs. Wheeler prison, along with any idiot officer that helped go along with the bull shit in 1994/1995. I pray that they all have repercussions they can not stop. They have put many people through abuse of power. That's exactly what they used to get any convictions through that made zero sense. Gary deserves more than just his freedom. Hopefully with good citizens like you Gary will gain just that.
                                                                                                                                              September 3-4/16

Gary Thibodeau

What is wrong with this timeline found at the end of Oakes’ Statement of Facts filed during the Hearing?

No other customers at the D&W between 6:35am that Brett testified to and a customer, Mr. Wiltse at 7:38am? Why do notes from the Exhibits show there WERE other customers that made purchases between those times?

If Heidi was scheduled from 6am to 3pm, why is 4:06am first reported on the register tape if Heidi didn’t arrive until 4:55am(excluding the hour of DST)?

This timeline Can Not be accurate but was presented at Gary’s trial.


                                                                                                                                                   September 2/16







Today's  Quote  September 1/2016

 “Too much agreement kills a chat.”
Eldridge Cleaver

Oakes and Dodd, including Todd
They are not dealing with a small town attorney. Lisa Peebles is a powerful person. If anything happened to Gary, it does not mean any of this is going to stop. Gary asked Lisa if something did happen to finish this case. To clear his name and to bring Heidi family the truth. So no matter what they do. This is not going away. Gary's case will hit supreme court and national news. It's far from done. It has only just begun. Oakes is simply a coward. He questions the integrity of the sheriff dept and the investigator but stands by the fraudulent case. Then you got Todd who says he had very little to do with this case back then but stands by a case he seems to have had very little to do with. But a whole lotta say on what's factual or untrue. Wouldn't be because his brother helped Dodd prosecute this case. Couldn't be to much pride, based on nothing but lies. Pathetic. Supreme court on Gary's last case. They made it very clear. That just the diary wasn't enough to over turn the conviction. Many cases have been over turned for far less and many have had probes in to the cases and activing investigators, and DA office. Gary will go home. It's just a matter of time.
                                                                                                                                                   September 1/16


Today's  Quote  August 31/2016

“If you don't think too good, don't think too much”
Ted Williams

I hope Garys lawyer files a big fat lawsuit on the county when all this is over.
                                                                                                                                                   August 31/16

Gary Thibedeou
What is the Oswego Sheriff hiding? This case was a giant miscarriage of justice. Let Gary free before he dies in prison.
                                                                                                                                                   August 31/16

I think that has been the plan all along. Oaks keeps waiting until the eleventh hour to file documents. He and Dodd hope Thibedeou will die in jail and that will be the end of it all. This whole thing has the same stench as the Tony Pauldine trial and the get-out-of-jail-free deal that was given to Smegelsky.




Today's  Quote  August 30/2016

“If I were dying my last words would be: Have faith and pursue the unknown end”

Oliver Wendell Holmes Sr.


Gary Fiasco

Re Todd, Moody, Oakes, Dodd
"After twenty years I can't believe I have to tell you there is another van. " Wescott
"If you look in to reports of a van watching the video store CLERK in 1994 you might find information on the van." -Bohrer 1995 FBI statement.
"I asked Murtagh if I had hauled a stolen van used in Heidi kidnapping." -Steen
"The van we hauled off Gary's property sat out there for over ten years." -Breckenridge
" I do recall moving a van for Breckenridge back then off Valley Road. -online statement from Richard Murtagh
"Steen and Roger were talking about getting rid of the van, I was afraid Roger would go with Steen. She left came back. Roger left early that morning his ex wife says.
Ocsd, and the rest of the bafoons also have Stitson there on the scene by their time line as Richard and Gary would have pulled off this crime.
There was a scratch in the panel of a bath room wall. On the interstate headed towards buffalo. The said Heidi Allen was a rat. Hmmm wonder who was using the interstate towards Canada. Maybe the fellas junking the van. Just a guess. This will all be exposed, in supreme.  Jennifer Wescott was given repeated chances to tell the entire truth. I think even her chances are up. Such a believer in God Jennifer was during the hearing. She better start praying.

                                                                                                                                                         August 30/16


Dear Todd, Oakes and Dodd
If Dave Stinson was at the D&W from 7:41-7:45 and Richard bought cigarettes at 7:42 plus kidnapped Heidi, why didn't Stinson see the crime?

Never mind, it'll come up in the appeal trial.
                                                                                                                                                   August 28-29/16


Time line at D&W doesn't make sense: From the DA Statement of Facts.
7:41 Stinson arrives at the D&W
7:42 last transaction on register...Richard bought cigs.
Stinson must have entered the store just after 7:42 between 7:42 and 7:45.
7:45 Stinson waves down Deputy Curtis 3 minutes after Richard left. How could he not have seen Richard taking her?

Stinson was there from 7:41 - 7:45 when he flagged down the Deputy.

Richard bought cigs at 7:42 and left presumably with Heidi Allen and Gary kidnapping her but Stinson didn't see him.

So Stinson must have entered the store after Richard left and no Heidi.

Why didn't Stinson see Richard kidnap Heidi, he was there one minute before the last sale at 7:42 which we are told was Richards.

7:45 Mrs. Fabin sees van swerving behind her in Mexico
7:48 Brittany Link sees Richards van at Garys

So that means Stinson didn't see him but he was there.
Richard drove from the D&W at 7:42 to Mexico and then to Gary's all in 3 minutes.

Who was there from 7:42 to 7:45 when Stinson waved down Deputy Curtis?
How could this possibly happen?  Why isn't there a time for when Bivens went by the D&W in the DA's Facts? He said he didn't recall  telling a deputy that he dove by between 8-8:30 and saw 2 men abducting Heidi....impossible, Stinson said she was gone when he entered the store at about 7:42.

There's something really wrong going on here.

                                                                                                                                                       August 25/16


Watch key witness in Heidi Allen kidnapping case take lie detector (video)


                                                                                                                                            May 11/16









Today's  Quote  May 6/2016

"Religion is the opium of the masses."
Karl Marx


Do You Want This Guy Spraying Hazardous Chemicals

In The Parks Where Your Children and Pets Play?


Council Poised To Reconsider Herbicide Vote
Council awarding contract to fireman's business, ???????




                                                                                                                           Jan 11/16



Neither the Federal nor the State governments

have ever mandated that the City of Oswego

raise its water or sewer rates.

Anyone who says they did is a F**KING LIAR!!!!!!








Today's Quote  August 6/15

“It's your life. Live it with people who are alive. It tends to be contagious.”
Peter McWilliams


Oswego Firefighter Sentenced

Last night in Minetto Town Court Oswego firefighter and former Minetto fire chief Joe Smegelsky Jr. received the maximum sentence of $1000 and two years probation despite arguments from the District Attorney Greg Oaks and defense lawyer Timothy Kirwan. They had hoped for a lesser sentence but based on information in Smegelsky's pre sentencing report the maximum punishment was handed down.


An audit by the State Comptrollers office found that Smegelsky had taken funds and used a department credit card to purchase a handgun, automotive parts and assorted items. He also created a fictitious company which sold fire equipment from undisclosed sources to the Minetto Department. District Attorney Oaks repeatedly argued for special treatment because Smegelsky had paid back slightly less than half of what the Comptrollers office found. However the fact remains he paid nothing back until he was caught.



Joeseph Smegelsky Jr.


Below is a copy of the District Attorney's plea bargain and his explaination of how they arrived at it.

If you enjoy fiction you will love this.








Today's Quote, January 26/15

"I am not an enemy of the negro, we want him here among us; he is the only laboring class we have."
Nathan Bedford Forrest


One week ago we celebrated Martin Luther King Day. I am sure members of the Ozwego Fire Department seized the opportunity to rack up some double overtime but that is about the only use they have for non-whites.

Since its inception in 1876 the Oswego Fire Department has been as white as the driven snow, with respect to the color of its members that is. In its 139 year history there has never been an Asian, Black or Hispanic member. If you think this somehow reflects the population then you better take off your blinders. Oswego’s elected officials and Personnel Department have long allowed department members to live as far away as Montour Falls, Watertown, and Groton. There is no way you can cast a net that far and say, that population is reflected by our department.

In the late 1980’s there was young Black man working for the local cable company who sometimes frequented the Fire House Tavern as did members of the OFD. The firefighters exam had been announced and he was asking some of the OFD members if they thought he had a chance of getting in. He received all kinds of encouragement while he was there but after he left I overheard two of the Heroes chuckling and say no way they were going to let him in the department. “We have Guinias and Polocks and that is as integrated as we are going to get.” I do not know if the man ever took the test but the fact is that department remains as segregated as the day it was formed. They are allowed to operate as their own little fiefdom picking and choosing their own white membership and no one has the balls to put a stop to it.

The next time our Senators and Congressmen come around for their photo ops with our Hero Department we should all point out to the national media how they are supporting a racist organization. Perhaps we should ask the NAACP how this has been overlooked by their organization for so long.
                                                                                                                            Jan 26/15





Joseph Smegelsky


Audit of Minetto fire chief charged with misusing $22K in funds for guns, motorcycle parts completed
"This individual had keys to the cash register and went on a spending spree with the fire company's money," DiNapoli said in a statement.

                                                                                                                    Dec 20/14

Today's Quote, July 2/14


“Thieves respect property. They merely wish the property to become their property that they may more perfectly respect it.”
G. K. Chesterton


Oswego's finest screwing the taxpayers once again spotted at Dicks Sporting Goods in Great Northern Mall on 6/22/14.....didn't know they sold food there....or were they perhaps getting a new set up clubs at our expense??? Would still like to see the tab for the turning stone "conference" they went to....a whole weekend at the turning stone??? meals, rooms, drinks, etc???? The worst part is it will never change. No matter who is mayor they will always be controlled by the f.d. and no one will run against our current council members. Oswego has become homeowners to few (I stand corrected good homeowners) and is a city full of renters.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14

That was probably just Smegelsky picking up some guns. They should be checking the video at Dicks to see who was with him. That hero should be arrested too.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14

Minetto Chief
People like that are paranpiod about someone else stealing what they just stole so naturally he would need to get a gun to protect all his or should I say our stuff.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14


Ambulance Numbers

Yes, they are not as correct as they should be as I left off the 2 additional firemen that go out on Ambulance #2 and many of the other expenses that can be attributed to the ambulance service . In reality here is a $300,000 loss each year without he expense of a new ambulance. The point is, we will never make a profit on this service; have a fully qualified ambulance located in Oswego (Menter) that can handle all emergencies; could cut 15 men from the department with all their benefits and return $2,000,000 to the taxpayers; while cutting the long term obligation of retirement and the padding of such for years to come.
Unfortunately, the obtuse Mayor, Council, and most of all ,Fire Chief, have another agenda and it is not in the best interest of he taxpayers. McCrobie probably was, at one time, a good fireman, but as a chief and leader lacks in total credibility. The way overtime is handed out only shows that he is helping to bump up he retirement of the soon to retire firemen by thousands of taxpayers dollars. There is a belief that hey will all get their turn is the OT merry-go-round, but the fact is, the tier 6 firemen will never see that benefit. The new anti padding law passed and signed by he governor will not allow tier 6 employees to add any more than $15,000 to their retirement benefits, and they will now have to go for the last 5 years instead of 3. If I were a tier 6, I would tell the tier 5's to stick their $50.00 they pay for the OT and start taking their share of the OT, because it will all be ending when all the tier 5's retire.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14

Minetto Fire Chief
I asked a few weeks ago if anybody knew what was going on with Minetto's Fire Chief well here you go.
Stole $20,000 from the fire department. I'm going to guess he possibly stole more since he's being held with no bail. Coinsedently though he just bought a piece of property behind his own for $20,000. Don't believe me? Here's the property taxes. Coincident? You should take a drive by his property to check it out. Constantly cars & trucks are being 'stored' there and then disappear. Camper was there for a whole summer now that's gone. I even seen the Minetto's fire truck pull up to his vacant property hook on a utility trailer with all the fireman in it and take off. Now Minetto Fire Dept has plenty of property to store at their station. Why would they use his? I offend wondered why a property owner who only has 1/4 acre of grass need a 0 point turn lawn mower? Probably the fire departments.

                                                                                                                    July 2/14




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RE: Oswego Corruption
Here are some places you should send your complaints.
Do not waste your time with the county DAs office.

Office of the State Comptroller

Division of Investigations
59 Maiden Lane
30th Floor
New York, N.Y. 10038
212-383- 2502



Office of the State Comptroller
Division of Investigations
110 State Street

Albany, N.Y.   12236-0001


New York State Office of the Attorney General
Public Integrity Unit
120 Broadway, 22nd Floor
New York, N.Y. 10271



New York State Reigonal Office of the Attorney General
615 Erie Boulevard West, Suite 102
Syracuse, NY 13204
Phone Number: (315)448-4800

Consumer Frauds Number: (315)448-4848
Fax Numers:
(315)448-4853 (Main Number)
(315)448-4851 (Consumer Frauds Bureau)
Office Hours: 8:30 a.m. to 6:00 p.m., Monday thru Friday

United States Justice Department
Organized Crime & Racketeering
James Handley Federal Building
Syracuse, N.Y. 13261

Federal Bureau of Investigation
James Handley Federal Building
Syracuse, N.Y. 13261

New York State Police
1220 Washington Avenue
Building 22
Albany, NY 12226-2252


New York State Police
Fulton, NY

6 East 12th Street,

Fulton, NY 13069



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