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Today's Quote January 7/09
"Life is like an onion: you peel it off one layer at a time, and sometimes you weep"
Carl Sandburg
Thought To Ponder
Every question you posed to me is idiotic. You obviously are asking one-sided, jaded, and loaded questions of someone who doesn't even partake in the use of marijuana. I advocate the decriminalization of marijuana because prohibition doesn't work. Of course if you ask a question like "do you want your airline pilot to be stoned" you have completely missed the point and there is no sense continuing the discussion. I don't want my pilot to be drunk either but I don't advocate alcohol prohibition, because it has been proven that it doesn't work. Instead there are other laws covering such a condition. However people like you will repeat the errors of history over and over due to ignorance.
You are also a jerk for admitting that you are less likely to park in a handicapped zone if the penalties increase. You should never park in a handicapped zone even if there is no penalty, but it sounds like you would make someone with a cane walk from the back of the lot so you could park close to the store because there is little to no ramifications. Then you say you are less likely to speed in a construction zone if the fines are doubled. You obviously have no consideration for the workers and only think about your own bottom line. I drive the posted speed limit in a construction zone so nobody gets killed, not so I don't get a fine.
I know that you are trying to demonstrate that if the penalties for marijuana possession and use are extremely harsh then use will decrease, but I have already shown that this is not the case. Instead we are needlessly jailing hundreds of thousands of our young people and others based on the faulty logic and biased opinions of people like yourself. In the end Marijuana will eventually be decriminalized in this country and your arguments will be moot. It's only a matter of time before sensibility prevails.
There was once a time when the status quo tried to ban Elvis for gyrating his hips. Looking back that was completely senseless. The same will be said about marijuana someday. In the meantime you'll just have to come to grips with what freedom really means. What that means to me is that if I happen to grow a certain plant in my graden among all the other herbs and vegetables, then the government should not be allowed to seize all of my property and assets because of the type of natural plant that happens to be there. This is a complete abuse of our unalienable rights regardless of your perceptions of the squashing of our rights being "good for society." Killing off old people would be good for our healthcare system and would save billions of dollars which could be used elsewhere, so why don't we do that too? It makes sense, does it not? Do you want your airline pilot to be ninety years old?
January 7/09
Was the Season To Be Jolly And Beat Up On Oswego Police Officers
Two of Oswego’s local scumbags celebrated the holidays but beating up on two of Oswego’s finest. It seems one of the OPD captains along with one of the new female recruits were off duty and having a drink in a local establishment when a fight broke out between two brothers. When the officers attempted to stop the fight the two turned on the officers. I heard that one of them has been arrested and the other was still running loose.
January 7/09
GRANDMA CURES:
Keep drains from clogging with hair by placing a piece of nylon netting in the drain. The netting dries quickly and when removed from the drain, so is the hair!
RE RE: A TAXPAYER
WOW, I must have touched a nerve. This response must have been posted by one of the county employes at the Transfer Station..
Do you guys have internet also?
A Taxpayer
January 7/09
RE: thought to ponder
You have no facts or data to back up your claims. You make assertions that the other guy's data is "old" or "been proven wrong" but you offer only your opinion and then put that person down. And even if "use" in all age brackets has increased since 1990, so what? The population has increased as well, and the majority of people in this country don't think that simply smoking a joint makes anyone a criminal. There are bigger things to worry about than whether someone halfway across the country might smoke some dope on a Saturday night in the privacy of their own living room.
January 7/09
THOUGHT TO PONDER:
So, have you put away all your Christmas things yet? If you are like us, every year, we manage to miss something after everything else is wrapped and sealed and put away for the year. I’m telling you this happens every, single year, no matter how meticulous we are about checking and re-checking each and every room. This year I thought we had finally done it, when I noticed a stinking Santa Claus fridge magnet on the front of our fridge. Oh well, maybe next year we’ll get it all. Nah, who am I kididing.
January 7/09
RE: "THE NUMBERS"
Your post is pretty much common knowledge, but thanks for the history lesson anyhow. It provides me with the opportunity to respond to some of it. Here's some other things you can dwell on.
First of all, let's assume that God also created tobacco leaves in their purest form, the poppy plants that Opium comes from, the coco leaves that Cocaine comes from, Peyote, and all the oil and coal in the ground that pollutes the world around us, just to put your "brilliant observation" into proper perspective.
With that aside to dwell on, while it may be true that the substance of marijuana never killed anyone from a consumption standpoint such as an overdose, it's a total misleading falsehood to believe that the effects of marijuana never caused someone to die indirectly, or that some dead person didn't have marijuana in his system that was directly responsible or contributed to his death which happened as a result of being under the influence. Such an example would be a drunk driver who also smoked marijuana after leaving the bar, yet somehow you only want to attribute his accident to alcohol? Are you going to claim that no industrial accident or train wreck ever killed someone (or others)who was under the influence at the time, which could very well have caused the accident due to inattention? Give me a break!
Almost everyone, (including myself) is well aware that Marijuana was grown here for hundreds of years, consumed by some of the Founding fathers, and widely used for hemp products. American Indians used it too, along with Peyote and other mind-altering hallucinogenic drugs in their pipes. For that matter, opium, Heroin, and cocaine were also common household remedies that could be purchased legally at any drugstore, or prescribed by a doctor, especially around the turn of the century from the late 1800's. Even LSD was legal until 1965.
China played a large role in why many of these substances were later banned for various reasons, some due to trade policies, and some due to epidemics of drug abuse in China and other countries as well. There are many reasons why marijuana was banned, and taxed, most of which I agree were either political or racist in nature and not actually due to the effects that marijuana produced as a substance. I won't deny that, or try to explain it, because it's a very long and complicated story. However, this doesn't mean that marijuana usage is without any negative aspects, or that it is something we are all somehow better off using than not.
There isn't the space or time to list all the negative things that marijuana usage (especially long term usage and use during adolescent formative years) can result in. Obviously, short term memory loss, paranoia, lack of concentration, and overall awareness are some of the obvious things, but it goes much deeper into child to adult developmental issues as well, some pertaining to achievement goals and world outlook issues that are distorted or in many cases never fully developed or obtained due to the complacency effects that the drug creates. It can cause lack of motivation and productivity in some, and just to be fair, perhaps creativity in others. It often takes away from constructive use of time, often being replaced by wasted time focusing on meaningless nothings in the grand scheme of things. It can cause some people to become withdrawn, introverted, disoriented, and out of touch with reality. It can cause depression, and confusion, and in some cases even affect speech. It can distort time and distance, and also increase heart rate. It can also cause respiratory problems in some people, through heavy usage, or people with pre-existing conditions.
While your post did contain some facts, your "police state mentality" sounds like an overdoes of liberalism. While I personally don't consider Marijuana usage a criminal offense, or that it should involve incarceration or a criminal record, I don't feel the same way about larger quantity sales or sale to minors, or parents who give their kids marijuana.
My position is that the civil penalties imposed under decriminalization are simply too lax, while sending the wrong message to children, and that the quantity limit is too high and the fine is too low compared to other things that are regulated or citations such as tobacco smoking laws, handicap parking, littering, hunting without a license, speeding, jaywalking (without a joint), and peeing on a sidewalk, among others.
Certainly DUI laws should be held to the same standard as alcohol related offenses, and be considered a criminal offense. Furthermore, I don't feel that marijuana usage should be something that is encouraged within the public school system or tolerated to any degree on school property, for safety reasons as well as the developmental issues I pointed out earlier.
The way I see it, 1 oz. bags of marijuana are enough to keep most people high every day for about a month at the rate of one joint per day, which is more than occasional or average use status. Under this situation, it's unlikey that the daily user will refrain from driving, being at work, or not under the influence for a large portion of any given day. In essence, this amount provides the ability to be high almost all the time, especially if you are buying smaller quantities in the meantime to maintain your one ounce limit at any given time. In this circumstance, the law seems to be enabling the user, so how usage would go down seems very unlikely, while usage going up is a very realistic possibility, due to acceptance and availability. Furthermore, this slippery slope can potentially lead to lesser penalties over time not only in personal usage of marijuana, but sale of marijuana as well, or things such as DUI, usage in public settings, or stronger THC substances such as Hashish.
It's only a matter of time before people who feel they are "being denied a lifetime of opportunity to be wasted 24-7" actually take the next step in allowing this to become a reality wherever they may be at any given time. If that's not a psychological addiction, I don't know what is.
January 7/09
Richland fire
The family fire in Richland is so sad, and my heart goes out to the rest of the family & friends. Anyone who watched the channel 5 news, must have seen Don Bielewicz on there telling his story. I ask how could anyone sit there and say the things that he did? He said himself, that he was a friend of the family and knew them well. NOW, Don...you are a past fire chief of Richland fire dept, you live right next door to the house in the trailer...correct??...SOOOOOOO...if you knew them well, and went to their home being friends, and being a member still of the fire dept....AND PAST FIRE CHIEF...THEN WHY DID YOU NOT SEE THAT THEY HAD FIRE ALARMS????
OR IS A FIREMAN ONLY A FIREMAN WHEN YOUR PAGER GOES OFF???
That house was a fire trap to begin with. the metal on the roof was just nailed on to stop it from leaking, and the rest of the roof was covered with blue tarps.
Being a so called fireman, why did you not see this as a fire hazard???
Maybe ALL fire depts should get off there butts at night from drinking beer at the stations, and go door to door asking if the homes have proper fire alarms, and fresh batteries to make sure they work. Instead of buying beer for a few months, invest in batteries, alarms, and gas to go house to house. I'm sure you would also receive donations for your trouble. No reason each man could not do a few roads in their terrority each night to see that this is done, and in no time your whole area would be covered. If you can spend 3-4 hours nightly drinking at the stations, then you could spend 3-4 hours nightly to do so. You see firemen standing in the roadway holding boots to collect money....why not go door to door, do something worth while and pass out the alarms...etc...
People like this should be ashamed of themselves for seeing something like this and doing nothing about it. I personal hope this is on your concuss for a long....LONG time!!!
January 7/09
SPENDING MILLIONS IN OSWEGO
After reading how the mayor and the comedy council are considering spending millions and millions of our money on improvements in infrastructure and new ambulances, etc. I have to hope that they will consider every single penny that is to be spent very carefully before committing to these things. Anything that can be postponed should be. Our economy, both nationally and locally is in the toilet. This is no time to be throwing money around when way too many of our local citizens are having to chose between buying groceries and paying their heat bill, and there are so many out of work, with no hope of employment anytime soon.
January 7/09
RE: ALWAYS NEGATIVE:
Are you for real? What has pointing out smoking and tobacco products are killing us have to do with being “negative” ? I suppose if they pointed out that drunk driving also kills people, that would also be being “negative” in your book? OK, lets try it your way: OH GOODIE, A NEW SHOP IS GOING TO OPEN THAT WILL SELL CIGARS, AND ALL THE SMOKING EQUIPEMENT THAT GOES WITH IT!! IT IS SUCH A GOOD, HEALTHFUL, POSTIVE THING THAT DOES SO MUCH FOR EVERYONE’S HEALTH. I SURE HOPE THAT BUSINESS IS SUCCESSFUL. Sorry pal. I am sure you yourself are one of those dwindling numbers of tobacco hold-outs that would love some company on your road to poor health and early death, and you are praying this new business does great. Not me. I hope it folds, and soon. There are many types of businesses they could open up in that shop that wouldn’t endanger people’s health. And, save me your worn out response about your rights, blah, blah, blah. Your rights end where they start to infringe on others, unless of course you plan to smoke those filthy, smelly, cigars off on some isolated island someplace.
January 7/09
BEST BUMPER SITCKER OF THE DAY:
I TRIPLE DOG DARE YA!
On New Year's Eve
Marilyn stood up in the local pub and said that it was time to get ready.
At the stroke of midnight, she wanted EVERY husband to be standing next to the one person who made his life worth living.
Well, it was kind of embarrassing.
As the clock struck - the bartender was almost crushed to death.
Today's Quote January 6/09
"People are always blaming their circumstances for what they are. I don't believe in circumstances. The people who get on in this world are the people who get up and look for the circumstances they want, and, if they can't find them, make them."
George Bernard Shaw
The Numbers:
Average Yearly Deaths in the U.S. due to:
Tobacco: 340,000-395,000
Alcohol: (excluding accident and crime)...125,000+
Prescription drugs- 24,000-27,000
Illegal drugs (excluding marijuana)...3,800-5,200
Marijuana- 0
Source: Government Bureau of Morality Statistics
Some will have you believe that pot smokers are this crazed, lawless bunch, but most likely the only law one will break if using marijuana will be the laws on possession and/or consumption. Beware of those who advocate such harsh "solutions" to the marijuana "problem" like life sentences in prison or even the death penalty. These people are ignorant and are downright scary. Some are even church-going folk, and they fail to realize that marijuana is all natural and provided by God himself. They do not have realistic and rational opinions on the subject based on what a free society stands for. I also have a very hard time believing that those people who advocate outlandish penalties for marijuana offenses would feel the same way if it was their son or daughter found to be in possession.
They also fail to realize that for hundreds of years it was perfectly acceptable and legal to grow and consume marijuana, and that marijuana grew nearly everywhere in North America. Few also know that our Founding Fathers were farmers and grew large quantities of the "drug" for sale and for their own usage. Marijuana was only made illegal in the last century as a reason to deport those considered undesirable, such as Mexican immigrants. It never was or never has been about the plant itself, rather it has always been about shady and unscrupulous politics and the infringement of freedoms in pursuit of a larger police state.
There are laws in place pertaining to using any drug and then driving or going to work or what have you, but it is beyond ludicrous to tell a free person in a free country that they must go through their entire lifetime never having the right to utilize a natural herb that is naturally occurring and grows basically everywhere and under any conditions. This country spent billions of dollars to eradicate naturally occurring marijuana and continues to spend trillions of dollars engaging in an un-winnable "war," policing and jailing U.S. citizens deemed "criminals" due to ill-conceived policy that provides little to society other than massive public expenditures.
January 6/09
re: Thought To Ponder
"Thank you for the sermon but it is you who is spouting faulty arguments. ..."
And thank you for a voice of sanity. I wish more would identify themselves so we could answer directly instead of wondering who it is. gobsmacked
January 6/09
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January 6/09
Always Negative
Naturally people will complain about a new tobacco shop opening in the area. Some people would prefer an empty store front over a prosperous business that they would not personally utilize. Didn't you know that everything that happens here must be approved by the local website complainers? You cannot just open a business around here without someone who disapproves trying to ruin it before it even gets off of the ground.
Ice Skates
Can some one tell me where you can have your ice skates sharpened? Mine need it.
Julie
January 6/09
GRANDMA CURES:
While taking your shower or bath, apply a facial mask. The steam helps your skin absorb the ingredients in the mask and you’ll leave the tub with a glowing complexion. A good homemade facial mask to try for dry, winter-weary skin is to mix together the yolk of one egg, slightly beaten, and 2 teaspoons of olive oil, added in drops to the egg. Apply this heavy cream and allow to dry. Rinse with cool water.
January 6/09
RE: A TAXPAYER
Plain and simple A taxpayer . We all are taxpayer's but you need to do two things. number one,,,watch your own tv,,,,and two,,,,,get a life.
signed ,,,,,the other taxpayer
January 6/09
COCKATIELS FOR SALE
HAVE 2 COCKATIELS FOR SALE WITH CAGE AND COVERS. THEY ARE ABOUT 10
MONTHS OLD. THEY ARE HAND FEED. THEIR WINGS ARE CLIP SO THEY CAN'T FLY
FAR. I AM ASKING 40.00 OR BEST OFFER. YOU CAN REACH US AT 342-3969.
How many of these did you know about? A sealed envelope - Put in the freezer for a few hours, then slide aknife under the flap. The envelope can then be resealed.(hmmmmmm...)============================================ Use Empty toilet paper roll to store appliance cords. It keeps them neat and you can write on the roll what appliance it belongs to.============================================ For icy door steps in freezing temperatures: get warm water and put Dawn dish washing liquid in it. Pour it all over the steps. They won't refreeze. (wish I had known this for the last 40 years!)============================================ To remove old wax from a glass candle holder, put it in the freezer for a few hours. Then take the candle holder out and turn it upside down. The wax will probably just fall out.========================================= Crayon marks on walls? This worked wonderfully! A damp rag, dipped in baking soda. Comes off with little effort (elbow grease that is!).=========================================== Permanent marker on appliances/counter tops (like store receipt BLUE!) rubbing alcohol on paper towel.======================================== Whenever I purchase a box of S.O.S Pads, I immediately take a pair of scissors and cut each pad into halves. After years of having to throwaway rusted and unused and smelly pads, I finally decided that this would be much more economical. Now a box of S.O.S pads last me indefinitely! In fact, I have noticed that the scissors get 'sharpened'' this way!========================================= Blood stains on clothes? Not to worry! Just pour a little hydrogen peroxide on a cloth and
proceed to wipe off every drop of blood. Works every time! (Now, where to put the body?) LOL============================================ Spray a bit of perfume on the light bulb in any room to create a lovely light scent in each room when the light is turned on.============================================= Candles will last a lot longer if placed in the freezer for at least 3 hours prior to burning.============================================= To easily remove burnt on food from your skillet , simply add a drop or two of dish soap and enough water to cover bottom of pan, and bring to a boil on stove top.============================================== Spray your TUPPERWARE with nonstick cooking spray before pouring in tomato based sauces and there won't be any stains.============================================= Wrap celery in aluminum foil when putting in the refrigerator and it will keep for weeks.============================================= When boiling corn on the cob, add a pinch of sugar to help bring out the corn's natural sweetness.============================================= Cure for headaches: Cut a lime in half and rub it on your forehead. The throbbing will go away.============================================= Don't throw out all that leftover wine: Freeze into ice cubes for futureuse in casseroles and sauces ........ Left over wine? What's that? :)============================================= To get rid of itch from mosquito bites, try applying soap on the areaand you will experience instant relief.============================================= Ants, ants, ants everywhere ... Well, they are said to never cross a chalk line.
So, get your chalk out and draw a line on the floor or wherever ants tend to march. See for yourself.============================================ Use air-freshener to clean mirrors. It does a good job and better still,leaves a lovely smell to the shine.===================================== Now look what you can do with Alka Seltzer........Clean a toilet.Drop in two Alka Seltzer tablets, wait twenty minutes, brush and flush. The citric acid and effervescent action clean vitreous China ..============================================ Clean a vase.To remove a stain from the bottom of a glass vase or cruet, fill with water and drop in two Alka Seltzer tablets. ================== Polish jewelry.Drop two Alka Seltzer tablets into a glass of water and immerse thejewelry for two minutes.============================================= Clean a thermos bottle.Fill the bottle with water, drop in four Alka Seltzer tablets, and let soak for an hour (or longer, if necessary).============================================= Unclog a drain.Clear the sink drain by dropping three Alka Seltzer tablets down the drain followed by a cup of Heinz White Vinegar. Wait a few minutes, and then run the hot water.
January 6/09
THOUGHT TO PONDER:
When I read these show biz articles about how hard the foreign actors have to work to perfect their American accents for movie or TV roles, I have to wonder about the reasoning that is being used. I mean why do they chose, for instance, British actors or actresses to start with, if the character is American? Duh. For instance, Hugh Laurie, a British import, does an admirable job portraying the lead doctor in the TV show, HOUSE, but I am sure they could have found an American actor to do the part just as well. Those folks just throw money around so recklessly and should be taking care of Americans first. After all, you don’t see England importing American actors to play their parts, do you?
re:re: THOUGHT TO PONDER
There's little need to source your facts. They are all common talking points lifted from websites such as NORMAL, which we all know are strong advocates of marijuana decriminalization laws often using many outdated research studies dating back to the 70's to support their claims. Time has proven some of these older studies wrong over the years, and the fact that marijuana usage has increased every year among all age brackets since1990 is one example that decriminalization laws by a general overall increase in societal acceptance may have contributed to this. No doubt that immigration and lack of border security has contributed greatly, but supply and demand economics also come into play, so it isn't true that less people are smoking marijuana or that its remaining stable, (at least in recent years) unless you are relying on outdated data. They are also starting at a younger age, so how do you explain that?
There's little doubt that in the real world, that less availability, or higher prices, or increased negative consequences on almost anything else leads to decreased usage, consumption, and generally has an effect on personal behavior. I know that I'm much more unlikely to park in a handicap parking zone or toss litter out the window when I see a sign that has a very high fine as opposed to none at all. I'm even less likely to speed in a construction zone if the fine is doubled, so why would lax marijuana laws yield any different results for most people? It's certainly the case when it comes to gasoline, cigaretts, the price of a T-Bone steak and parking tickets, so what makes marijuana any different?
Let's face it, there's little need to conserve or cut back when you have an abundance, and the fact is, you are more likely to roll a bigger joint or smoke more of them if you have a bigger bag of weed sitting around the house than simply the last two joints that you want to save for the concert next weekend with no line on where your next ounce is coming from.
Whether or not decriminalization causes more people to partake in such pastime activity may be debatable, but there's little doubt that larger on hand quantity increases personal usage among "those that already do". Decriminalization provides that by allowing it. Even a cigarette smoker will smoke less when he's down to his last few smokes, and smoke more when he has a full pack. The same applies if you have a full tank of gas, or more money in your pocket when you go shopping. That's reality based insight from a common sense perspective, based in human psychology and behavioral traits.
Now, only an idiot would deny that smoking pot while drinking alcohol doesnt make matters worse when it comes to public intoxication or DUI. Common sense sould prevail that we don't want to increase this problem by sending signals that marijuana doesn't have its own negative aspects, or by changing that perception, which decriminalization would undoubtedly produce. After all, little Johnny's less likely to slap his sister if he knows that he will get sent to his room "without supper" if he does, than if he simply gets sent to his room. That's reality in most instances.
Here's a few questions for you to reply back too, Mr.Know-it-all:
1) What's a good age to start smoking marijuana, and why?
2) How does marijuana increase a persons ability to concentrate, function, and remember things while on the job, especially in multi-task mode?
3) Would you rather your kids smoked marijuana, or didn't?
4) Would you fly in a commercial jet if you knew the pilot was stoned, or allow your kids to ride a school bus if you knew the driver was high? If not, why?
5) Would you choose to spend $200 on a bag of weed, or buy your kids a Christmas gift if you were out of weed and wouldn't see your supplier until after New Years Eve?
6) If you were alone, or with a family member and didnt have a cell phone, computer, or vehicle in "a life or death situation", would you rather be very high or of sober mind?
7) If an ounce of pot dropped out of your 13 year old daughters beach towel, would you confiscate it or give it back to her? Explain.
8) If decriminalization laws were legal everywhere, would you park your vehicle with a "marijuana plant bumper sticker" in the Employee of the Month parking space?
9) If your cat thought your 1 oz. bag of weed was catnip, would you kill it for running out the door and tearing it apart on the front lawn after two other such instances?
10) It's 10pm. Do you know where your kids are?
January 6/09
Poor Bill O'Reilly
Comedian Al Franken, the author of such books as "Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot and Other Observations," and "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right" is the next Senator from the great state of Minnesota. Conservative Republican Senator Norm Coleman will waste a bunch of time and money with pointless legal challenges, but Franken won.
That sound you hear is Bill O'Reilly's head exploding.
And really, Franken's win underlines this point: Nobody listens to what the right-wing gasbags like Limbaugh, O'Reilly and Hannity have to say except for the crazed wingnuts who are going to vote Republican anyway. In other words, these noisemakers have absolutely no ability to change people's minds or affect elections in even the slightest way. They are completely irrevelent.
If you had listened to Hannity throughout the presidential election, you would have thought Obama was the anti-Christ. But nobody listens to Hannity. Obama destroyed McCain anyway. O'Reilly levels personal attacks against Franken on a regular basis. Nobody cares what O'Reilly says. Franken won anyway.
And on and on. Conservatism is dead. And nobody gives a flying crap what Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity and the rest of the blowhards on the right have to say.
January 6/09
BEST BUMPER STICKER OF THE DAY:
I HAVE A PERFECT BODY---- IT IS YOUR EYESIGHT THAT IS SHOT
Ponder this
Can you extrapolate the factual information with which you have" proven " your case for marijuana legalization to crack and heroin ? If so , we could save a great deal if we quit incarcerating those offenders as well. It's only fair ; they all started with marijuana.
Armed Robbery
An armed hooded robber bursts into the Bank of Ireland and forces the tellers to load a sack full of cash.
On his way out the door with the loot one brave Irish customer grabs the hood and pulls it off revealing the robber's face.
The robber shoots the guy in the head without hesitation! He then looks around the bank to see if anyone else has seen him.
One of the tellers is looking straight at him and the robber walks over and calmly shoots him in the head also. Everyone by now is very scared and looking down at the floor.
'Did anyone else see my face?' calls the robber.
There is a few moments silence then one elderly Irish gent, looking down, tentatively raises his hand and says:
'I think me wife may have caught a glimpse ....'
Today's Quote January 4-5/09
“Don't try to explain it, just sell it.”
Colonel Tom Parker
RE: Thought To Ponder
Thank you for the sermon but it is you who is spouting faulty arguments. The available evidence suggests that the removal of the prohibition against the possession of cannabis does not increase its use. This prohibition inflicts harm directly to individuals and society and is astronomically costly. Unless it can be shown that the removal of criminal penalties will increase the use of other harmful drugs then it is difficult to see what society gains.
The National Academy of Sciences reported in 1999 that there is little evidence that decriminalization of marijuana use necessarily leads to a substantial increase in marijuana use.
The Connecticut Law Review Commission of 1997 determined that reducing penalties for marijuana has virtually no effect on either choice or frequency of the use of alcohol or illegal "harder" drugs such as cocaine.
In contrast to the majority of the garbage you spewed in your post, the Journal of the American Statistical Association states that rates of other illicit drug use among emergency room patients were substantially higher in states that did not decriminalize marijuana use.
The Journal of Public Health determined that the decriminalization of marijuana had little impact on rates of use.
The Institute for Social Research at the University of Michigan states that the preponderance of evidence points to the conclusion that decriminalization has had virtually no effect either on marijuana use or on related beliefs about marijuana use among American young people.
The Bureau of Tobacco Control and Biometrics concluded that the largest increases in marijuana usage proportionately occurred in those states with the most severe penalties.
California's State Office of Narcotics and Drug Abuse asserts that a reduction in penalties for possession of marijuana for personal use does not appear to have been a factor in people's decision to use or not use the drug.
Now there are endless facts just like the ones I have posted and if need be I will gladly source these facts above, but you just keep posting your "beliefs" instead of actual factual information. I especially like the belittling and thinly veiled insults you add for dramatic effect. I should know better than to engage in discussion with the small town mind. The same people who complain endlessly about skyrocketing taxes and their teachers being overpaid then have no problem housing hundreds of thousands of non-violent small time drug offenders because they erroneously believe these kids will immediately head to the local parks upon release to hawk their wares to unsuspecting children. It sounds like you live in a fantasy land but feel free to continue to tell me how it is you, and not me, that is using common sense. It is the prison system that is turning young people into hardened criminals but it seems you are less worried about that fact and more worried about putting words into other people's mouth or finding any and every angle in which to be insulting so as to be victorious in the battle that is internet forum banter.
January 4-5/09
GRANDMA CURES:
If a leaking faucet keeps you awake at night, try tying a piece of cotton string or cording to the tap. so that the water will run the length of the cord, right into the drain. Make a mental note to fix it tomorrow, and get a good night’s rest.
Economic Fallacy
The economic crises we are in are caused by an economic belief system that assumed equity growth and stability based on past data.
I call this “drowning man” factoring. We all remember the drowning man story that says that you drown after going down for the third time. Inherit in that story is that the drowning man has a historical data base to assume that after his first and second submersion he will continue to resurface and survive.
What really amazes me is that the federal government is now handing out trillions of dollars of borrowed money based on the same economic fallacy that got us into trouble in the first place. They are assuming growing and/or stable national equity. The Gross National Product that they are using is self deception. It fails to take into account the human and economic carnage that is the cost of producing that product. In fact it is early 19th century cotton economics.
The federal government has already begun the process of positioning 20,000 federal troops within the United States to deal with the anticipated rioting as our financial structure collapses. We can anticipate more “free” money to be handed out. This money will inflate and become more and more worthless.
The “science” of economics needs to take a lesson from professional sports. Reviewing the tapes of past games does not assure you a victory in the next game. Any advantage gained is spent after the first seven minutes. The game is won by adapting to the conditions on the field and predicting short term behavior by your opponent. Smart people don’t bet on games unless there is a “fix” and a known outcome.
What has been done by the feds is to stabilize the foundering ship of state by the crew throwing the passengers and cargo overboard.
We have become the Potterville from the movie ”Its a wonderful life”. In that movie the producers place a clue to the corruption that leads to becoming Potterville – it is on Mr. Potter’s desk.
Mr. Smith won’t be going to Washington this year but Harvey will be representing Illinois. Do “Ya know” (who) will be representing New York ;(
Also - It is comforting to know that the same song and dance that was performed on “upstate” New York will now be entertaining an international audience. Different venue – same results?
January 4-5/09
re: Thought to Ponder
About the tobacco shop in Minetto....would you have prefered a "Waterbeds & Stuff" instead? Check out their smoking related "stuff".
January 4-5/09
Oswego Transfer Station
A few days ago I happened to make a trip to the Oswego transfer
station. As I was waiting my turn in line to dispose of my refuse I
could not help but notice the employees their had erected a
Television Antenna ( with a rotor) just outside the office area of
the main building, the lead wire ran into the office providing a
signal to a television located within the office. It makes one wonder
if TV time is in the contract of these Union workers? If so you would
think the county could at least provide these poor souls ( who must
be bored to death) with at least basic cable. I over heard two of the
workers complaining that they were unable to get a coupon for a
digital converter box so when the change over occurs they won't be
able to view there favorite shows each day. Seems they are very
concerned about being able to keep up with " The Price is Right"
"Judge Judy" and "The Maury Show". Maybe the tax payers could
provide these dedicated County employees with a DVD player or at
least a VCR and offer some training on sweeping, ( how many flat
tired have you gotten there?) house keeping and common courtesy,
(there is one worker out there who makes it very obvious he has never
had that training.) Come on Oswego County lets try to help these guys
out!!!!!
A. Taxpayer
January 4-5/09
Drugs in the USA
When a person CHOOSES to consume drugs it's their CHOICE. The country
of China does not have a drug problem any more. They gave the druggies
two years to get off the drugs and after the two years if they were
still using, dealing or growing or making drugs they would be
executed. Would I like something like that here in the tolerant United
States? How could I even think of a terrible punishment like that? I
do! That alone would stop the largest dope problem. Does execution
stop murder? Nope. Will execution stop drugs here? Nope. Let the
States decide on the execution of druggies but please let New York
State give them their dirt nap. There, %99.9 of the drug problem would
be solved.
January 4-5/09
former Oswegonian now Hoosier
Indiana is one of only a handful of states that have a budget surplus...and this story shows the trickle effect on cities and counties of Indiana.
Oswego should take note...along with the state of NY. One may suffer on city services...but the reward in your property taxes is worth it....
Not to mention the good ole boy network of police and fire would become extinct.
My home here in Indiana is assessed at $162,000 on a half acre and my property taxes just went down this new year by $219.00 to $1017.00...now I know most home values across the country went down... hence some decreases...but Governor Mitch Daniels put a cap on property taxes 3 years ago here in Hoosier land...and that is the real reason for the decline in taxes.
http://www.etruth.com/Know/News/Story.aspx?id=471616
January 4-5/09
THOUGHT TO PONDER:
I was reading an article the other day about Hobos. You never seem to hear that term anymore. We say “displaced persons” or “homeless” but they mean different things, I think. The hobo of old was someone who chose to live a life on the road, with all of their possessions on their back, They turned their back on society and lived life on their terms, paying no bills, owing nothing to the bank, and sometimes would appear at your back door, asking for a handout. And, sometimes, in return, they might even do some chores for you. They had a system of leaving a mark outside of homes that were known to be kind to tramps (another term rarely used today) and hobos, which would alert others like them. I’m sure they wouldn’t be allowed to exist in today’s world though.
Auto Trade-In Risk
I just learned this from a TV personal finance advice show.
If you trade in a vehicle that you owe money on and the dealer goes out of business or has money problems and does not pay off the finance company on the trade-in – YOU owe the money for the vehicle.
They advised that in today’s economic climate with dealers going out of business every day – do not trade in a vehicle that you owe money on.
This raised a couple questions in my mind:
1. If you owe the money, do you still own the vehicle and can you go pick it up?
2. Should you wait to hand over the title until the finance company says that the dealer paid it off?
3. If you can’t get the vehicle back – do you have a lien on the assets of the dealer for the amount that you owe or does the finance company own the lien?
January 4-5/09
BEST BUMPER STICKER OF THE DAY:
IF I’M TALKING, YOU SHOULD BE TAKING NOTES
Today's Quote January 3/09
"A person, who no matter how desperate the situation,
gives others hope, is a true leader."
Daisaku Ikeda
Oswego County needs your help, some thoughts.
Oswego County has over eighteen hundred employees and Oswego is one of
the largest cities in the county at around seventeen thousand people.
We have a school superintendent with three assistant superintendents
with each having two secretaries and that's just for the Oswego school
district. I've kept it short and to the point now think on this
awhile. Are there realizations coming through?
January 3/09
fulton police officer
I can understand the officer brown will be judged for his mistake,.. but come uon he could have seriously injured somebody..
just because he is a police officer does not give him any more rights than any other citizen im sure if he could rethink his actions he would have never gotten behind the wheel..I know Kevin from when we were kids hanging out at hamilton homes, yeah he is a great guy.. but sorry dude you were wrong..
January 3/09
re: Fools
Gobsmacked:
Common sense is a subjective thing. Those under the influence of alcohol or weed often believe they have a vast abundance of it as well. Since you don't use drugs, yet claim to use common sense in your thought processes, I'll assert it being proof of long term mental instability caused by an over exposure of second hand pot smoke during your formative years.
January 3/09
GRANDMA CURES:
If you lose something tiny on the carpet or floor, like an earring back, or a contact lens, or heaven forbid, the diamond from your ring, you could spend fretful hours on your hands and knees trying to find it. To simplify the job, cut a leg from an old pair of panty hose (or knee-high) and slip it over your vacuum cleaner wand. Vacuum the floor area and in no time at all that lost item will stick to the panty hose at the mouth of the vacuum wand . .. .. ready for you to pluck it off.
Ed,
I'm sure that I speak for a number of your faithful readers when I beg you
to go to a slightly larger font for the News section. It is hard to control
the mouse and scroll through the posts while holding the magnifying glass in
front of the monitor. I know I could change the font or monitor resolution,
but that would screw up the other things I look at on the web.
Thanks
Every now and then there is some hidden HTML that sneaks in and changes the type face, when I cut and paste. I thought I had caught it. Should be OK now. EH
THOUGHT TO PONDER:
It was announced in the local newspaper that a new tobacco shop would be opening in Minetto, with “premium handmade cigars, lighters, cigar cutters and ashtrays.” The ad said these things would be great for Christmas gifts. WHAT? How many times do we have to be told by the greatest minds in health and science, plus every other health professional in the world, that tobacco can kill us? What more can they do to get through to us that smoking is like committing slow suicide, and sometimes not even that slow? And, why would someone chose to open a business that sells and therefore encourages us to indulge in a habit so harmful to us? Especially in this day and age when most of us have either given up the dirty and disgusting habit or are still trying to overcome its hold on us. Was there no other business they could have chosen to engage in? How sad.
re: FOOYour arguments are weak for many reasons, all of which are incorrect for the most part.
While keeping drug use illegal certainly doesn't eliminate usage, it certainly prevents drug use from increasing by having legal consequences attached to the sale and possession of it. It may not stop it from declining to the desired degree that some would like it to, but they do prevent it from growing into the potential epidemic that it could become without such "common sense" laws. Sure, it's basically an epidemic right now, but so isn't unemployment. That doesn't mean that unemployment couldn't get worse, or end up like the Great Depression.
Decriminalizing marijuana and other drugs won't totally reduce crime in a general sense. That's because lots of violent and non-violent crime is more often a direct result of poverty, psychological instability, irresponsible behavior, and a general disregard for society and various laws of people with criminal minds overall than the effects of the drugs themselves. Meanwhile, drug usage contributes to both in different ways. In terms of poverty, it often prevents people from being employed in the first place, and in terms of psychological instability, they don't help people with such problems to begin with from being in any more control of their already screwed-up mentality. Usually, they only contribute to it, by distorting their perception of reality even further, or by making them complacent, unproductive, and less aware of all things actually going on around them...thus the term "stoned", or "wasted". And I don't know about you, but when it comes to the people who use it who are so called "professionals" in their respective fields, I would rather have a doctor doing surgery on me not be stoned while he's doing it, or have a teacher being "high" while spreading his world view propaganda to my kids, or having the babysitter doing "bong hits" when I walk in the door.
Now, as far as your take on your perceived "rights" to partake in such behavior in your own home, there are many other things to consider. First off, if you are a renter, it isn't your house to begin with so you don't legally have anymore right to do it than to own a cat that scratches the woodwork. Gee, I wonder how many people fall into that category? Next, as soon as you leave the confines of your "drug induced sanctuary", you are no longer in your own home and the effects of your actions may become a problem to the rest of society, much like driving drunk on alcohol or public intoxication. Of course, this isn't even taking into consideration the cigarette you may have left burning in the downstairs apartment that you "forgot" about as you fixated your thoughts on whether "the thing" at the end of the street was your dead cat, or simply just a paper bag near the intersection as you wandered out to investigate.
As far as the expense of building prisons, I don't think most people with "common sense" object to spending money to keeping violent types off the streets. As for the non-violent offenders in there for small drug possession, I'm sure they would rather see them in there than at the city park playground, state park, and neighborhood street corner hanging out smoking dope and asking their kids if they want to buy any. After all, many aren't old enough to buy it legally under your scenario, so to think that a Black Market wouldn't still exist is shortsighted at least, and just plain irresponsible at best. And the truth is, I don't think most people give a damn if a few drug lords on the border get shot, or drug traffickers consisting of illegal immigrants in street gangs end up dead either. They only hope that they don't become a casualty in the process as an innocent bystander.
There's little doubt that empowering or basically allowing people to sell and use drugs without legal consequences would increase such behavior. Certainly, by somewhat eliminating some of the black market, the price of drugs would go down. This is like equating what would happen if we lowered the price of a bottle of beer back down to fifty cents, or made cigaretts fifty cents a pack. Do you honestly think this would actually reduce consumption and lead to less DWI's or cigarette usage? If so, you are more niave than I thought.
Incidently, your argument about being able to do what you want inside the confines of your own home falls very short. Whether it's operating a Meth Lab, building a pipe bomb, skinning the neighbors cat, molesting your own daughter, making threatening phone calls, or exposing yourself to the paper girl when she comes to your door are all against the law. Should we legalize these activities as well? Think about it further before you respond back with one of your "common sense" arguments.
LS
January 3/09
BEST BUMPER STICKER OF THE DAY:
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NEW MASSACHUSETTES DRUG LAW
The new drug law in Massachusetts now allows possession of up to 1 oz. of marijuana without criminal consequences, and is now considered a civil violation where only a citation is issued. The penalty and fine is confiscation of the weed, a $100 fine, and excludes information regarding the civil offense from the states criminal records system. Current laws regarding sale, DUI, and public usage remain unchanged at the present time, however, the ability to now be in possession of such an amount without any significant consequences can only increase the number of instances where people who may otherwise have less in their possession under the old law, can now feel free to carry around more with them wherever they are. As a result, this provides more opportunity for small individual sales, and in larger amounts, simply by having more in your possession and a law that allows you to carry it around.
Let's look at the facts, although they can vary greatly for a variety of reasons:
1) A one oz. bag of marijuana is about enough for the average casual user to smoke one joint per day for an entire month.
2) Depending on quality, one joint is enough to cause most people to become quite dysfunctional, at least in a mental sense. While it may not cause inability to drive a car, it certainly is more than enough to alter ones state of mind to the point that they become every bit as much (or more) of a danger as a drunk driver due to their decreased sense of awareness, altered state of perception, timing and distance.
3) Combined with alcohol, this greatly increases the potential danger that one substance alone would create.
4) By allowing 1 ounce of marijuana per person, one can only imagine how much marijuana could be found at a typical frat party where hundreds of people may be at, or a van loaded with illegal immigrants!
5) The fine is so lax that we should all be more afraid to smoke a regular cigarette in a bar, by facing a larger fine and harsher consequence for the bar owner and the smoker. Talk about the punishment not fitting the crime!
6) This new law also applies to people under 18 years of age, requiring only 10 hours of community service and having to go to a drug awareness program consisting of group discussion for 4 hours. This is to be completed within one year of the citation. Oooh, now there's something to be really worried about!
7) This is simply the best reason that NYS doesn't need another Kennedy representing their interests...you know what I mean? I mean, you know, being so close to Massachuttes and all, you know, and all those liberal policies, you know, that liberate us from all those, you know, people who want to infringe upon our, you know, rights and stuff....you know what I mean?
January 3/09
Today's Quote January 2/09
“All of us are guinea pigs in the laboratory of God. Humanity is just a work in progress.”
Tennessee Williams
Fools
If you think that keeping marijuana illegal is somehow magically keeping use down, then you are sadly mistaken. Weed is the number one cash crop in America and it's not just degenerates that are involved. Just like alcohol prohibition created huge wealth for the mob, pot prohibition creates huge wealth for growers, importers, dealers, police, judges, government officials, you name it. The people who don't want it decriminalized are either profiting from it or foolish enough to think having a law against it means it doesn't happen.
Decriminalizing marijuana will severely reduce crime and save us billions of dollars on building new jails and housing non-violent "offenders." If you really believe that legalizing weed will mean everyone will be smoking dope then where have you been for the past thirty years? As free Americans there is no good reason you can be denied the right to "partake" in the comforts of your own home, regardless of whether you choose to or not. Of course, there will always be those people that want to tell you what to do, what you are allowed to do, and how to behave in all situations. These are the people who use their freedom to impose on yours. Now before you categorize me and call me names, no I don't use drugs. I use common sense.
January 2/09
Re: Fulton cop
The man exercised poor judgement and made a big mistake, for which he will pay greatly. I'm sure you probably know what the legal expenses will total. If Officer Brown had the moment to re-live, I'm certain he wouldn't make the same decision. Mr. Brown will be judged by a panel of local citizens and then his penalty will be handed down. It is certainly not your position to judge and cast sentence upon him. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. If that is you, come forth and be recognized. I have never met someone who is truly perfect. I know Kevin Brown, although not well. I do honor and respect him for laying his life on the line every time he "suits up". Do you do more for your community?
January 2/09
GRANDMA CURES:
When do you take down your Christmas tree? In our family, New Year’s Day is the start of putting all holiday things away for another year. We have found that those Zip Lock bags really come in handy for storing things, and keeping them in order. The gallon sized ones are great for storing a group of colored balls and the small snack sized ones are handy for storing those tiny ornaments that seem to get lost in the shuffle. The house always looks so dull and colorless after all the decorations are put away. I have found this is the best time to go out and buy yourself a new floral centerpiece to go on your coffee table or dining room table. And, remember the hint from professional decorator’s to always include just a bit of the color red in each room to perk it up. Try it - - it really works.
January 2/09
Oswego Man Saves Family from Starvation
John Dingledorf of Oswego reported that he was recently approached by a man on the street who told him that his family was in imminent peril of starvation and required cash for food to prevent his wife and five children from perishing. Mr. Dingledorf said he gave the man all the cash that he had on him at the time but was unsure of the exact amount.
Mr. Dingledorf reported that two weeks later he saw the same man approach a woman on the street with the same story. Mr. Dingledorf said that he could hardly contain his joy and satisfaction in knowing that he kept the family alive for at least two weeks. He said that he was sorely despaired at the plight of families in America and hoped that others would join him with Christian charity.
Realizing that Mr. Dingledorf might be misinterpreting the situation – we sent one of our reporters out to confirm this story. The reporter said that he found the beggar in question still approaching people on the street with the same story. The reporter checked with the Salvation Society but they were not familiar with the situation. They said that pride often prevents people from seeking help. The local food pantry was also unaware. They said that people are often too embarrassed to seek help. We are now satisfied that or fourth estate responsibilities have been met and have published this inspirational story for the benefit of mankind.
Confronted with requests for charitable philanthropy Mr. Ebenezer Scrooge asked – “Are there no workhouses?” Apparently we can anticipate infrastructional workhouses and treadmills in our future. It will all be very stimulating. The beggars will then have no need to prowl our main streets but will be confined to those engaged in the financial district.
“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.” MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.
January 2/09
Re: Re: War on Drugs
Negative aspects
Marijuana- Brain activity is altered, one tends to keep isolated, introverted, nervous system is relaxed, guilty conciense, stimulates appetite.
Alcohol- Brain activity altered, one tends to be more aggressive and obnoxiously loud, extroverted, nervous system is jacked, no guilt, no appetite. Also, more arrested for alcohol abuse, more wife and child abuse cases, more murders, thefts, burglaries, more excuses!
January 2/09
THOUGHT TO PONDER:
We in central New York have are so lucky to have one of the best children’s museums in the country close by. I am referring to the Strong National Museum of Play, right down the road a bit in Rochester.. If you have children, especially under the age of 10 in your family, you really HAVE to take them to this wondrous place. Trust me, you won’t regret it, and the kids will have a ball. The place is a wonderland of interactive games, toys, rides, exhibits and learning experiences that will keep the little ones happy and enthralled for hours and hours. There is even a cafeteria with many choices for lunch and a store to buy some of the most innovative and fun toys around. There is a play grocery store where the children can take their own grocery cart around and ‘buy” the play food products, and a small train ride as well. Take one of these vacation days from school and pack up the kids or grandkids in the car and drive an hour and a half to Rochester. It will be the highlight of the kid’s holiday and don’t be surprised if you have fun yourself in the section that showcases all the old toys of years ago that you used to play with.
When we were last there with our family’s little ones, I couldn’t help but think how wonderful it would have been for Oswego to have something like this that would draw folks from all over the country. The secret to a successful venture is to make it for kids, because as you know, we will do anything, pay anything or
January 2/09
Ethics/Lawlessness/Same old, Same old
It seems that you feel the same as I about Pedophile John and his
girlfriends(s), remember his city paid meeting to Canada with TomTom
which they never attended? How about his city paid Hooters visits and
alcohol tabs?
A while ago, an employee working for a car dealership was pocketing
their money, the police department found out and took her to court.
So whether or not the mayor is "gutless", theft of public monies would
be out of Bateman's hands, wouldn't it? Is there a 7 year deadline to
recover this money?
PJ seems to have transferred his property into his enabler wife's
name. Is he now insolvent? Can't go after her?
You're guessing that the Gosek's owes the city $30,000? $40,000 a
year to do a job you spend 10 hours a week at?
Bail me out, I want to go where it is at least warm, if not clean!
January 2/09
BEST BUMPER STICKER OF THE DAY:
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Oswego County needs your help
Here is your chance to help make this county more competitive with very little effort. I know that quite a few people, both in and out of county employment, read this site. Just take a few minutes an make a suggestion as to how this county or town can be more efficient and provide better service or reduce cost or both. The more ideals the better. Keep it short and every idea is welcome. No need to sign unless you want to.
A special invitation to legislatures and department heads to do the same and to tell the taxpayers what they have done this past year to save money, and or, provide better service. Come on, don't be shy. The taxpayers would like to know.
January 2/09
Today's Quote January 1/09
“If we had no winter, the spring would not be so pleasant:
if we did not sometimes taste of adversity, prosperity would not be so welcome.”
Anne Bradstreet
Fulton's Drunk Cop What's Shocking About This??
Well is another prim and proper cop that has got his snot in a dig lot of trouble. Now to be fair lets fist state he is not the first or last goody to shoe cop that will get nailed sometime. In fact most cops are humans (most of the time) and to go out drinking when off duty. No big deal right?? Wrong
They are expected to somewhat hold the letter of the law when not wearing the big badge. I have seen many cops stop at stores and buy beer and get in and drive away. Twice I seen them at Byrne Dairy and they sure looked like didn't need to be driving but they got in there cars and drove off. I went in and questioned the sales car about it and she said they never say anything to anyone. I wonder if the state would like to hear this one.
I feel this cop from Fulton should be put out of work with no pay from John Q Taxpayer until it all comes out in the open. It might not go far so that us city people won't hear much about it and it will all blow away.
Mr. Brown made a very bad choice, he has to set a higher standard and this is not the way to do it. He should be fired until a full review can be done, Period
January 1/09
GRANDMA CURES:
Icicles may look very pretty hanging from your roof, but they are a sure sign of heat loss and pose a danger to those who walk under them. Have your attic insulated to keep the valuable heat inside. Also consider insulating your basement ceiling and stop those annoying draughts from chilling your toes. Draw drapes or pull down window shades at dusk and leave them down until morning. The air pocket between the window and the drape forms an insulation layer. Do all you can to conserve heat during this cold weather.
January 1/09
JUST A FEW QUESTIONS...
If it's against the law to leave snow on your car, then why do the cops all just drive by these cars on the highway and do not stop them?? START STOPPING THEM AND WARN OR TICKETS THEM!!
While these town highway department superintendents drive around the roads....can not they see peoples driveways where they have plowed their snow across the road??...Why do they not stop and just tell them not to do it??
AND these Oswego County Highway guys that do nothing but drive around looking for snow & road temperatures....WHY DO THEY NOT STOP AND SPEAK TO THESE PEOPLE FOR IT??
Don't we pay taxes for these people's jobs??....
January 1/09
re:re: WAR ON DRUGS
Talking down to me under the present circumstances wouldn't be advisable, given your knowledge on this subject. Since you want to treat drugs like alcohol, I have decided to open up a "smoking bar" instead of a little corner store. I'm thinking of calling it "The Pot Spot", or maybe the "Weedshed".
Now, considering the fact that it isn't illegal for anyone to sell alcohol to another person who is old enough to consume it, then there also shouldn't be any problem selling drugs to another person on a park bench either, so widespread personal sale would increase in my opinion, especially before the bar the opens and after last call.
Since I will have to also compete against the grocery stores and carry-outs that sell alcohol, this presents another problem. It means that there may be a bag of pot right next to the 12 pack in many peoples refrigerator, or right next to the bottle of Jack Daniels in someones liquor cabinet, and quite legal under your scenario. Should I give the babysitter a drug test before I hire her, or just take my chances that she will not get into the little sandwich baggie as she raids the refrigerator for something to calm the crying baby, or take her mind off it?
Meanwhile, back at the office, or out on the job, it really shouldn't matter if I decide to have "one measly cold one" on my lunch hour. After all, some people do it all the time and it doesnt seem to affect their performance very much, so a joint shouldn't be much different. Besides, I don't think most old people would know if the taxi cab driver named Harry simply has smokers breath or pot breath as he "Zig-Zags" thru traffic down W. Utica Street.
Don't you think a nice bag of "Panama Red" would make a nice Christmas gift? What do I do when the little kids accidentally feed it to their pet canary, by wrongfully mistaking one of those larger buds for a piece of bird millet? Since you want it to be treated like alcohol, there shouldn't be any problem promoting the consumption of marijuana during the Super Bowl game or regular T.V. programing either, right along with the Corona and Bud Lite commercials, right? Perhaps a little "pot garden" that's roped off at Harborfest would be acceptable too?
I have a question about real estate and home prices too. Do you think if my neighbors house has a hydroponic garden or a Meth Lab in their basement that it will affect the value of my property? What about a "Crack house"? My God, there's hardly enough space to park as it is without all this "coming and going" of strange cars all day and night long. Of course, it's all legal now that we are treating drugs the same as alcohol.
I'm curious about this too....if a six pack is 72 ounces of beer, does that mean that having 72 ounces of pot to bring along while I go fishing is okay to have in the trunk of the car, as long as it doesn't violate the open container law? After all, I'm simply transporting it until I get to where it's okay to legally consume it at my buddy's fishing pond down the road, located on twenty acres of land that he uses to grow his own weed for his Hemp products that he sells online.
Anyhow, as you can see, this opens up a whole new can of worms, But hey, if we can open up a can of beer, why not a baggie full of weed?
Snow on the Roads
I wish the person who works for the NYS Dot. Who thought that the roads only need salt to remove the snow had to drive on them. If we lived in Albany our roads would be great. If it was above 20 degrees the salt works great. Five years ago one load of salt loaded to spread cost over $800, how much today. With this temp. it just gets plowed into the snow bank. It’s only money. Tony
January 1/09
Reply to Abuse/DPW
I think if you look back at the actions of the last council, there was a
resolution to have that pedophile mayor, his girlfriend and his pimp pay
back all the money they stole. Because we have a gutless mayor who will not
push the issue, it has yet to be paid back. I think it was close to $30,000.
Maybe the new council can look into this resolution and push to get our
money back from John, Cindy and Tom, but then again, the mayor is still
getting $40,000 a year for a 10 hour a week job. I think you can console
yourself to never seeing that money paid back, or a reduction in the mayor's
pay.
January 1/09
THOUGHT TO PONDER:
HAPPY NEW YEAR LION READERS!!!! How long will it take for us to remember to write 2009 on our checks and correspondence? Just when I think I have it in my head, I will slip and write 2008 on something about a month after the New Year holiday.
HAPPY NEW YEAR OSWEGO!
FROM BILL
DRUNKNOSWEGOMAN
January 1/09
If you thought the dog in the snow was good
http://boortz.com/nealz_nuze/2008/12/my-dog-can-skate-better-than-y.html
January 1/09
BEST BUMPER STICKER OF THE DAY:
BETTER LIVING THROUGH CHOCOLATE!
re: War on Drugs
Gobsmacked states: "If drugs were legalized and taxed we could get revenue from the whole mess rather than it costing money and lives. Just think of the bureaucratic, job filled, pyramid that could be created around the whole thing."
So typical are the thoughts of the pot smoking liberals among us, who apparently think this country can (or should) attempt to "smoke" its way out of its fiscal and social problems by enacting such legislation.
It's bad enough that we have a growing segment of our society which is so enamored with recreational drugs that it doesn't choose to recognize or admit any of the negative aspects of such products amid our general population....now we have "numbskulls" like this, who think we can justify it all by adding to or creating another bloated branch of federal and state government which would collect revenue from it thru taxation.
Yeah...I know. Booze and cigarettes are legal and taxed, so drugs should be too. Blah, blah, blah. Until it can be proven that this world is a better place by having pot heads and alcoholics driving public policy, enacting legislation, and making such decisions which could negatively impact the lives of the greater majority... I'd say this thought for such a government run bureaucratic pyramid of progressive minded insanity is nothing more than a "dopey" idea of the highest order.
January 1/09
Today's Quote December 31/08
“For last year's words belong to last year's language
and next year's words await another voice.”
T.S. Eliot quotes
Successful first anniversary for Syracuse parking boot : News : WSTM NBC3
Why can't they do this in Oswego? It could help collect some of the parking tickets. Bet they don"t do anything this drastic.
http://www.cnycentral.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=240817
December 31/08
That idea is too simple. Besides it might make someone unhappy and our bleeding heart, mama’s-boy of a mayor would never want to make anyone unhappy.
"Auld Lang Syne"
should probably more appropriately be titled:
"That New Year's Eve Song That No one Knows The Words To Or The Title".
Auld Lang Syne is actually a Scottish song, originally written by Robert Burns, and first published in 1796 (after Burn's death).
Robert Burns was born Alloway, Ayrshire (in Scotland) on January 25, 1759. Burns was a struggling poet and songwriter, and also held a career as a tax collector.
GRANDMA CURES:
Little ones driving you nuts during their vacation from school? Here is an old-fashioned recipe for finger paints they can use. Take ½ cup of powdered laundry starch and mix with ¾ cup of cold water. In a separate container, allow one package of gelatin to soak in ¼ cup of water. Add 2 cups of hot water to the starch mixture and boil until the solution is clear, stirring constantly. Remove from heat and stir in gelatin mixture and ½ cup powdered detergent soap until fully dissolved and thickened. Pour 1 cup into each of 3 containers (old Cool Whip containers are great for this) and add different color food colorings to each. And, to make a neat paint roller for your kids to paint with, all you do is pry the top off an old roll-on deodorant bottle and fill it with thinned finger or poster paint. Replace the top and away you go!
Dumbing down of America, it's worth watching
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDyDtYy2I0M&feature=related
December 31/08
THOUGHT TO PONDER:
HAPPY NEW YEAR, everyone. All in all, 2008 wasn’t a bad year, and it certainly was a snowy year towards the end, wasn’t it? But, I’m sure we are all anxious to get into 2009 and hope for the best in every area of our lives. I know most of us (ahem) will be starting diets, once again, to try to get rid of all the extra pounds we packed on from all the holiday cookies, parties, family gatherings, etc. So enjoy tonight and eat all the rich and fattening food, and have a few pops, but please don’t drive if you have had too much to drink – OK? And, don’t you be the judge as to when you have had enough! When we are “under the influence” it tends to cloud our thinking and our judgment, so we always think we are under control, when we aren’t. Tell your mate, or a good friend to take away your keys if they determine you are in no shape to drive.
Pay taxes Wednesday to deduct them for 2008
NOT
Real estate taxes are not deductible until they become a lien no matter
what our accountant or some IRS employee says:
NYS Real Property Tax Law:
§ 902. Lien date. The amount of all taxes, special ad valorem levies
and special assessments levied upon any parcel of real property by the
board of supervisors shall, except as otherwise expressly provided by
law, be and become a lien thereon as of the first day of January of the
fiscal year for which levied and shall remain a lien until paid.
By no means am I saying not to give it a whirl--and good luck, but only
to point out the daily ignorance of people paid to run our lives.
jc
December 31/08
re City Hall Rumor:
"Heard thru the grape vine that Nancy Sterio was snuck in the back door and given a job to hold off the 12-15 months (I believe that is the right number), so she can retire with all benefits!! ..." Where is the guy who thought once you elected someone you should just expect them to do their job and not have to keep an eye on them?
December 31/08
re: WAR ON DRUGS
OK, you win. Yes to every mindless thing you've conjured up, you numb-skull, but you missed one. Since infants can't crawl in on their own we should bus them in and shoot them up for free. Why open up across the street from a school? Open a kiosk in the hallway. You must sell illegal drugs to be fighting this so hard. Admit the war on drugs is lost and treat them the way we do alcohol. You are trying to reinvent the wheel. I'm serious. You aren't. If I continue I will have to start talking down to you. gobsmacked
December 31/08
Abuse of DPW equipment
Abuse of Concerned neighbor, your post is very interesting. I'm sure you've
had enough of watching this neighbor use your property (which it is,
if you're paying your city/county taxes) knowing you aren't allowed to!
Do you think anything will be done and these types of abuses will stop
in this city? If you remember, as I do, that pedophile ex-mayor John
Gosek let his girlfriend use the city's credit card, to fill up her
loan of the city's (your) car, to speed to Syracuse. Did he or she
return that stolen money? As I remember, she got a great pension or
some may refer to as a golden handshake when she left the city's employ.
Shoveling out local officials has been going on since day one in Oswego.
I know, I know, things like this happens across the country, in all
towns. Still, it doesn't make it right.
The DPW workers belong to a union, don't they?
That huge increase Gosek's friends on the council wanted to give that
ex-Major:
It seems Randy Bateman was the only one at the time to oppose it. Now
that he's mayor, there's no problem with that amount of pay for 10
hours of work a week?
Concerned neighbor, if our sons worked for the DPW and had access to
that equipment, I wonder if we'd think it was o.k. to have our drives
plowed out? Something to think about!DPW equipment
December 31/08
New Hair Shop in Oswego "New Beginnings"
Tried the new hairshop today called "New Beginnings". Very nicely decorated too. Great prices.....wash and cut for $10! They did a fantastic job on my daughters hair, as well as mine! They are located across from Vona's Rest. on Utica Street. Very nice girls too with lots of years of experience cutting hair.
Thanks, from a Very Satisfied Customer!
December 31/08
Many, many people believe obama is part african.
The fact is he is not. His mother was white and his father was arab. A muslim. Middle eastern.Yes he lived in kenya, that dosen`t mean he`s black. Obama let the lie roll when all the talk was about the black vote. Yes he was born in the U. S. but he is not black. Many arabs are the same color as him. He misled the american people by not telling them the truth. Another thing is he claims to be a christian. he does not believe there is a hell. Any true christian will tell you, There is a hell. Christ said we need to be saved. Saved from what? Hell. So he does not agree with Christ. There for , is he anti Christ? Im not saying he`s the anti Christ. But, He disagrees with God, Does not believe the Bible and calls himself a Christian. Christian means, Christlike. So if he disagrees with Christ, What is he? He is not black and he`s no Christian. He`s deseptive thats what he is. Many didn`t catch this. And he
wants to sit and talk with middle eastern terroists with no preconditions. Alot of his campaine funding came from the middle east. The king of saudi arabia for one. A country that teaches it`s children to hate christians as well as americans.Good luck to all you blind folks.
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RE: Oswego Corruption
Here are some places you should send your complaints.
Do not waste your time with the county DAs office.
Office of the State Comptroller
Division of Investigations
59 Maiden Lane
30th Floor
New York, N.Y. 10038
212-383- 2502
Office of the State Comptroller
Division of Investigations
110 State StreetAlbany, N.Y. 12236-0001
New York State Office of the Attorney General
Public Integrity Unit
120 Broadway, 22nd Floor
New York, N.Y. 10271
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