February 19/18


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Today's Quote February 19/2018

Anyone who wonders how a man like Adolph Hitler came to power

need only observe the politics of the United States from the year 2016 forward.
Elliston Howard

I doubt you would see anyone in Ozwego County do it.
Half of them consider it an honor to be sexually harassed by one of the local solid citizens.
The other half would tell you they just ignore it because it is like that everywhere.
Some of he staunchest advocates of women’s rights came from central New York but their message fell on deaf ears when it came to Oz.
                                                                                                                           February 19/18


Who Are These People And What Do They Have In Common?
Hannah Ahlers, Heather Alvarado, Dorene Anderson ,Carrie Barnette, Jack Beaton, Steve Berger,Candice Bowers,Denise Salmon Burditus, Sandy Casey, Andrea Castilla, Denise Cohen, Austin Davis,Thomas Day Jr,,Cristiana Duarte,Stacee Etcheber, Brian Fraser,Keri Galvan, Dana Gardner, Angela Gomez, Rocio Guillen, Charleston Hartfield, Chris Hazencomb, Jennifer Irvine, Nicol Kimura, Jessica Klymchuk, Carly Kreibaum, Rhonda LeRocque,Victor Link, Jordan McIldoon, Kelsey Meadows, Calla Medig, Sonny Melton, Pati Mestas, Austin Meyer, Adrian Murfitt, Rachael Parker, Jennifer Parks, Carrie Parsons, Lisa Patterson, John Phippen, Melissa Ramirez, Jordyn Rivera, Quinton Robbins,Cameron Robinson, Sara Roe Smith, Lisa Romero-Muniz, Christopher Roybal, Brett Schwanbeck, Bailey Schweitzer, Laura Shipp, Erick Silva, Susan Smith, Brennan Stewart, Derrick Taylor, Michelle Vo, Kurt Von Tillow, Bill Wolfe Jr, Robert Scott Marshall, Karen Sue Marshall , Keith Allen Braden ,Tara E. McNulty, Annabelle Renae Pomeroy, Peggy Lynn Warden, Dennis Neil Johnson, Sr., Sara Johns Johnson , Lula Woicinski White, Joann Lookingbill Ward , Brooke Bryanne Ward , Robert Michael Corrigan , Shani Louise Corrigan , Therese Sagan Rodriguez, Ricardo Cardona Rodriguez , Haley Krueger , Emily Garcia (died at the hospital, Emily Rose Hill , Gregory Lynn Hill, Megan Gail Hill , Marc Daniel Holcombe , Noah Holcombe , Karla Plain Holcombe , John Bryan Holcombe , Crystal Marie Holcombe (pregnant*) , Carlin Brite "Billy Bob" Holcombe (unborn) 0, Alyaas Alhadeff, Joaquin Oliver, Meadow Pollack, ScottBeigel, Alaina Petty, Jaime Guttenberg, Martin Duque, Gina Montaito, Aaron Fels, Chris Hixon, Nicholas Dworet, Peter Wang, Lke Hoyer, Carmen Schentrup, Helena Ramsay, Alex Schachter, Cara Loughran

They were all killed by AR15's since Oct 3,2017 (135 days). All under the watch of John Katko who wants us to pray for these people, but had no problem taking $9,900 from the NRA. His last statement was again, he want us to pry for the victims, and he wants to have a conversation. Hey John, why don't you have a conversation with the families of the above and explain to them why their loved ones are dead, and why you did nothing to stop the sale of AR15's which killed them. You have been in office for 4 years, and this will, "become a conversation for the upcoming election for the 24th, and the same goes for Claudia Tenney in the 22nd". You are both pawns of the NRA and the GOP, both who could give a good crap about the above lives that were lost.
                                                                                                                           February 19/18


Katko is a big disappointment. With his experience as a Federal Prosecutor he should know a lying crook when he sees one yet he has no problem overlooking the criminal attributes of that scummy lowlife which some people call president. Claudia Tenny is just a big political whore who cannot wait to get in line to suck Trump’s ass.

Me Too Pathfinder
Pathfinder bank will soon have to change their slogan from "My Bank" to the "Me Too Bank" based on soon to be public allegations.
                                                                                                                           February 19/18

Touching Tony
Just a reminder that everyone in Oswego knows Tony Pauldine is a pedophile. That is all...
                                                                                                                           February 19/18








Today's Quote February 17-18/2018

A man is but the product of his thoughts what he thinks, he becomes.
Mahatma Gandhi

Trump’s ‘Russia hoax’ turns out to be real

Reading the Mueller Indictment: A Russian-American Fraud
Reading the Mueller Indictment: A Russian-American Fraud | The New Yorker


                                                                                                                           February 17-18/18

Re: Me Too
I would hope that anybody that has been a target of sexual harassment by the president of Pathfinder would get the other people who were targets and hire a lawyer. If it is true, and there are others that are willing to come forth, take him down.
                                                                                                                           February 17-18/18

Gary Thibodeau....The Death Of Common Sense
Reading the latest on this web I believe the case really surrounds the first people at the store. A lot of their stories don't make sense. Not seeing anyone, any cars but then one guy sees a kidnapping but the other guy who was there earlier doesn't.

There are a number of suspicious events: Person who sent Steen text.."CYA Heidi". It sure seems that he knew Steen was involved doesn't it? and he doesn't know who sent it from his phone...hard to believe.

Stinson's story still baffles me...think about it.

Swenkowski saw Richard leave ALONE...at 7:42-7:43 but his truck was seen by neighbors 2 minutes after that...impossible.

I really believe that if he wins, he will win the next trial. Will Lisa opt for a trial without a jury? And will the FBI investigate the OCSD actions as they are obviously corrupt. Almost to the unbelievable.
                                                                                                                           February 17-18/18

$60,000,000 School Board Mis-guided Expenditure
This group of people that call themselves a "School Board" have not got a clue what they are doing to the taxpayers of the Oswego School District. We already know many facts about this $60,000,000 spending plan that we don't need. Here are some of those facts:
· The seven buildings need minimal repairs which are cosmetic at best. Maybe $5 million would take care of any of the needs and that is probably generous .
· It is a fact that they used $4,000,000 from reserve to balance the last budget and filled all the positions that were eliminated the year before.
· There will be a PIOLT reduction of $450,000 for this coming budget.
· The state is reducing state aid as was outlined by the governor so state aid will also be reduced.
· The District is already upside down in debt with over $55,000,000 in debt, not counting the money they will need to bond for their spending plan.
· Enrollment is down by 500 students and is not increasing
· We have too many schools which are under utilized and one or two of the schools should be eliminated.
· The ratio of teacher to student is 1:9 and should be a standard of 1:13 indicating there are too many teachers and aids.
· The football program is going to a county program and we are having trouble getting enough kids to make a varsity team.
· They want a turf marching field with a 2000 seating capacity which is in a flood zone and requires under ground tanks under the field to collect the flood water to be pumped off after heavy rains.
· They want to also have a turf field for the marching band to practice on.
· Goeway wants the field to be named after him $23,000,000...really
· The graduation rate is at 72% a which means that 28% of the class will eventually be on welfare.
· We WILL get another tax increase in the next budget bringing you taxes for a standard house ($100,000 with basic STAR) will be over $1800 for next year.
· You will have another $40/year added to your tax for 15 years if this is passed on March 6 , not counting the 2.5% increase they just gave you. Must be they think this is a rich district...NOT
These are all facts. I will vote NO on this resolution on March 6, and everybody in the district might want to think about this before they burden themselves with unsustainable school taxes. Don't be fooled by "it's for the kids", it's for the ego of the Oswego City School District and the superintendent. Might be time to think about a new school board which will start making reasonable cuts and be responsible to the taxpayers and to provide a good education for our kids!
                                                                                                                           February 17-18/18

Tops Supermarkets owners preparing to file for bankruptcy protection

That is no wonder. Their prices are as high as a convenience store.
                                                                                                                           February 17-18/18









Today's Quote February 16/2018

Oh, if I could but live another century and see the fruition of all the work for women!

There is so much yet to be done.
Susan B. Anthony

Barlow proposes stricter property maintenance rules
Enforce the ones we already have.

                                                                                                                            February 16/18

Were These Kids In shock?
A few minutes ago I watched an interview on national TV with four students from Parkland high school who felt compelled to speak out on behalf of their friend that was killed. Three girls and one boy all wearing some form of clothing with the school logo sat talking to the reporter. They were calm, articulate and there was not a tear from any of them nor any sign that they had been crying.
                                                                                                                            February 16/18

Parks supervisor made officers ‘offer up’ wives for promotions: suit
                                                                                                                            February 16/18



How Long before Its Pathfinders Turn

The recent womens movement is working its way down the food chain.

There are many current and former employees who could tell stories about the bank president.

If just one person comes forward that would put the stockholders right in the toilet.

                                                                                                                            February 16/18








Today's Quote February 12-13/2018

If you're going to do something tonight that you'll be sorry for tomorrow morning, sleep late.

Henny Youngman

Mens Varsity Basketball Coach …Multiple Arrests
This is what happens when you hire looser teachers to coach sports instead of someone qualified and they want the taxpayers to shell out 60 million for a new sports complex. Will the new complex have a consession stand that sells beer so the coaches won’t have to go to Cheap Seats????????????
Oswego boys Varsity basketball coach JAMES B LAMACCHIA who is also a teacher with the Mexico School District, and a resident of Fulton, was arrested multiple times. After the game on Saturday February 10th the coach went to the bar across from the school and drank until after 1:00 AM when he decided to drive home. At West Second and Mohawk streets about half a block from the police station he ran a stop sign and crossed the centerline in the road. At the police station he refused to take a breathalyzer test then became combative and began spitting at police.
Later he was taken to Fulton for arraignment where he again began to fight and spit at Fulton Police and was arrested once more.


AR-18-00135 JAMES B LAMACCHIA DOB: 09/06/1967 02/10/2018 West Second Street/ West Mohawk St,
26 South Pollard dr, Fulton, NEW YORK 13069 01:38:00 Oswego, NEW YORK 13126
VTL 1192 03 - DWI- 1ST OFFENSE

AR-18-00145 JAMES B LAMACCHIA DOB: 09/06/1967 02/10/2018 169 West Second Street, Oswego, NEW
                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18

Wow, If This Budget Is True..
the members of the board of education, for the past 20 years , super of schools, might be guilty of bad math, wrong person in charge of education ( Cathy C ) ,wasting taxpayers monies, members of the board missing the picture of voc high school , and lacking in money deception ! but I will bet, if one of them gets short change on a food order, they will be quick to point it out !

Would like to see the super of schools pay, beneifit pay out, cell phone charges, vechile ?, petty cash ? charge card ? Health insurance , is this also covering his wife ? I hear she gets $ 250,000.00 also ! so are we having a over lap in insurance ?

But is this Building game nothing more that to cover monies in the school district. over bad accounting and free spending in their lack of economics and back bone to see who is stealing and who is dumb !
                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18

House Fire

Is waterbury raising money to pay his lawyers or is it to keep the Ren Fair going
                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18

Wal-Mart to pay $2.1M for overcharging customers
Just the tip of the iceberg ……check your receipts carefully they are also ringing up charges for gift cards and cash back that is pocketed by the cashiers.


                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18

Another Waterbury House Burns
Nice to see that the Oswego City Code Department is right on top of inspecting Waterbury's house. His rental (dump) at 123-125 W Bridge burned today. Must be the result of ru bbing two insurancr policies together. Assessed value of $64,500 and has not been re-assessed for at least 12 years. Gee, what a shock, no inspection, no new assessment. I wonder if he tried to get a little from the female renters? Must be the assessor and the code officer were to busy to do their jobs.
                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18

Re: Crews responding to fire on West Bridge Street in Oswego
Insurance policy and mortgage sparking?
                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18

Pennsylvania Republicans have drawn a new congressional map that is just as gerrymandered as the old one


                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18

Brett Law LIAR
Brett tells officers in 94 Heidi feared no one. Why is it Brett changed his story 20 years later. Now claiming Heidi feared a coke head who was in and out of jail? Why would her own boyfriend lie so bad about something that could have helped lead them to Heidi? That could have changed the course of so many lives? One could conclude Brett knows far more than he leads on. Brett how is it you've lived all these years, with not an ounce of guilt to your part in the lies that incarcerated an innocent human being? Sick bastard. There is a pretty place in hell for you and your buddies. If you think citizens aren't aware of your relationship in 94 with the original probable suspect the super hero writer the big, big guy you couldn't be more wrong. As many have already reported and confirmed your relationship with Garys attorney. Truth is you are both assholes, with no conscience. . http://www.syracuse.com/crime/index.ssf/2015/09/a_first_in_heidi_allen_kidnapping_


                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18

FREE: exercise equip
                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18

Gary's day
The People, Respondent, v. Gary Thibodeau, Appellant.
                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18

Argument Date: 04/26/2018
Read the four documents available. Be informed.
Don’t believe all the BS hearsay from LE!!
                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18

Trump Budget his priorities and take everything from the poor and entitlements
Trump budget would boost defense funding, slash domestic spending - NBC News https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-budget-would-slash-spending-


                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18

West Bridge Street House Fire
Owner : Mr. Waterbury

Vacant at the Time..Hmmm !
                                                                                                                          February 12-13/18







Today's Quote February 11/2018

The law was made for one thing alone,

for the exploitation of those who don't understand it,

or are prevented by naked misery from obeying it.
Bertolt Brecht

Oswego City School District budget 2018 Vs. 2019..Suprise!
This whole scheme that the Oswego City School District Superintendent Goewey and the agreement by the uninformed School Board is going to give you a big surprise in 2019, next year, that they are not telling you about. The district is broke and if you pass the $60,180,000 joke that you will vote on, hopefully NO, on March 6th; in 2019 you are going to get a big increase in your school taxes.
Here is the history:
2017-2018 budget gave you a 2.4%tax increase which might not seem like much when they put it in terms of a percentage, but in real dollars, for a $100,000 house ( average for the district) with basic star, prior to the tax increase, was $1,400. Your tax liability this year was, for the same house is $1,432 and if you pass this foolish spending plan your tax will be $1,459. Now comes 2019, and because of loss of revenue from the PIOLT, (a minus $400,000), a very small increase in state aid, $8,500,000 in debt payment and no reserve to make up the $4,000,000 that was snuck into the revenue stream last year from reserve and fund balance, increases for the teachers and administration salaries, and benefits, there will be over 7% tax increase needed to make up the losses, in the revenue stream. That will come from you in your taxes! This is fact, not made up numbers. Check the budget; do not rely on the board, as they are don't even know how to read the budget, and most of them never looked at it, just agreed to do what Goewey put in font of them.
Your tax liability in 2019 will around $1,600. This is so we can do some cosmetic repairs to the schools and to build a $23,000,000 Marching Band Turf Field, that at times may be under water do to no drainage. Think about it, you will pay out $3,000 for the next 15 years not counting what other bonding this board will come up with. Also remember that the district is up-side-down in debt. They owe over $58,000,000 in bonds and all the school buildings combined are only worth $47,000,000. (that includes the rinks). If that was your house, the bank would have taken it already.
Send a message to these fools and get out and vote on March 6th, and VOTE NO!
                                                                                                                           February 11/18

School District Games
Does anyone wonder if a person running for school board can separate them selves to be, to the best of their ability NOT having relatives working for the School District or the city, county, or wal- mart or chase construction ?

Would like to see what townships the oswego city school teachers, principals, vice principals, super of schools and his wife live in ?
And got to ask the question, how come Bell and Tripp are not speaking out on this phoney construction game ? Do they have relatives working for the school district, or the city ?

Please, get out and vote, somewhere along the line , we as taxpayers, have to stop this power control and lying ! God bless Joe Wilbur field, not mini -me field !

Time for a real trade school !
                                                                                                                           February 11/18

ICE Set To Deport Undocumented Father Whose 5-Year-Old Son Is Battling Cancer

                                                                                                                           February 11/18







Today's Quote February 10/2018

There is nothing so strong or safe in an emergency of life as the simple truth.

Charles Dickens



school district

to the poster who keeps writing about "goey".....maybe some info you did not know or you might who knows.....when he graduated college this school district would NOT hire him because of his GPA......he went to work for Mexico school district.  His father who was principal at Riley and whom I worked for as a teacher was a cheating philanderer....came to work everyday, went into his office, and got on the phone with his girlfriend.  I felt very bad for his wife she was a nice lady.  Then HE hired "goey's" wife at Riley....definite conflict of interest the teaching staff all felt.  Dino makes fun of black people and gets a slap on the hand and ends of Super......he doesn't know dog shit about what a good super is and his father was a lying, cheating, ignoramus.....and as far as Bell goes he doesn't know shit about anything especially code enforcement... Oswego is all about who you blow not who you know!!!!!

                                                                                                                            February 10/18



Mr. Oakes:

Correct me if I’m wrong, I don’t recall Dodd’s lying “eyewitness” EVER mentioning in any police statement or court testimony that the girl he “knew” was Heidi was or was not wearing a jacket when he supposedly witnessed the struggle.  He sure did mention her chest though!!  Funny…he noticed that but not what kind of shirt or jacket she may have been wearing?!?  How dare you twist Mr. Pierce’s statements and testimony to fit your agenda.  Fact that you didn’t accurately convey in your brief to the Appeals Court-Mr. Pierce drew a beard on Gary’s newspaper photo in 1994 and “thought it was close enough” so he didn’t come forward then.  Never crossed your pea mind that a young looking mugshot of Steen from 6 years prior to Heidi’s disappearance was inappropriate?  You did mention that the photo of Steen was 6 years prior in your filing…makes one wonder why YOU didn’t take it upon yourself, seeing that you question the integrity of the lead investigator-Mr. Petriski-to find a photo closer to April 1994.  Can’t do that but would-Fact-sit in on an interview with a witness who tells you and Petriski what she knew happened to Heidi?!?!


Mr. Bivens was torn limb from limb on the stand…pleading the fifth about lying on an insurance form…yet the jury believed his “eyewitness” account???  Yeah!, he’s a real stand-up guy…coming forward AFTER the reward was offered and by pressure from his significant other.  Nothing to gain for testimony??...Yeah right.  Just like Mr. Baldasaro received no benefit.  Which is another lie.  May I refer you to the handwritten notes from the ADA’s, previously posted on this site, to the clear/concise explanation that Mr. Baldasaro was to be given probation in opposition to Florida’s Probation Department recommendation that he be jailed.


You think you are so smart and have loyalty from others in Oswego??  Just wait until reelection time when You are not endorsed because you followed orders about fighting Gary’s exoneration that resulted in the public getting the Truth!!  You are the one with egg on your face.  Well, not the only one…Judge Donnie Dodd should be sanctioned for his part and Mr. Rule Todd as well!!  Good Luck…though it seems in politics, constituents have to pick between the lesser of two evils instead of the most qualified.  When is election?  I won’t be voting for you.


I sleep on a soft pillow.  What about YOU?



On To You

                                                                                                                            February 10/18   



Super Of School Dist Job !

  What is the job scope of the super ?


  What is the job scope of the board of education ( always thought that it watched over monies ) , and not just buying  coffee and food !


  Mr Bell , nice job of building  porches and decks WITH OUT A PERMIT !


  But, for some reason, you are on the school board and  city of oswego works with you and tells and avery ! Why is that  ? Are you bending, or just a  low level construction  person playing the big game  !


  Please people, get out and vote NO,  And ask the school board members  why mr goey gets  $ 250,000.00 plus benefits a year ?


  And please ask, why MOST of the TEACHERS of the oswego  city school district, LIVE OUTSIDE  OSWEGO, COUNTY ? Which can mean, lack of city, county taxes  paid to oswego ! And of course, that would mean, the property  ( township )would get the taxes ! Has mr goey  and the board address this ?


How many school teachers have direct deposit, which could mean  local banks, city, county do not receive workers tax payouts !


So the city, county, and school district run dry on monies, and lack of math, english, and the need for a VOCATIONAL HIGH SCHOOL, BUT YET, mini me wants to name a field in his honor ? If anything, it should be in the honor of  Dr. Ed Lisk !

                                                                                                                             February 10/18









Today's Quote February 9/2018

In our Country... one class of men makes war and leaves another to fight it out.
William Tecumseh Sherman

Pennsylvania's Supreme Court Explains Why It Struck Down Congressional Map Favoring GOP

                                                                                                                           February 9/18

Deputy Curtis
The 745 time comes from the officer who reached the scene first. Whom was waved down by Stitson. What Curtis doesn't comprehend by his 745 testimony. Is he put himself on the scene at the exact time Bivens would be passing the store. Bivens left east 2nd street at 730. It's 16 minutes from point a to point b. Putting Bivens on scene at the same exact time 745/746 (This does not included stops n gos at all stop lights heading out of Oswego as he stated). Stitson tells you on scene time was 758, later changed to 755, again changed by Curtis at 745. Then you have Fabian whom left her home in Fulton N.Y. at 712 am. 22 minutes from there to where she spotted the van on 104/69 placing this van at that location by 734. Mr.Nevill also left his home at 730, it's 4 miles from his house to the corner of 104/69 putting the van again at that very spot Fabian says by 734. Way before Richard Thibodeau ever arrived at the store and cashed out at 742. So 2 witnesses place a speeding van at the same spot at the same time of 734, Curtis placed himself on scene with Stitson and Bivens. Then you have the young girl whom claims to have seen Richards van by Gary's home at 748. Leaving 6 minutes to travel at estimated 15 miles. Putting the speed of the van at 150 mph. Then there's Baldasaro who says they picked Heidi up by the check out time of 742, drove to Gary's and back to the store, by 745. Leaving 3 minutes to travel 30 miles. Putting the speed then of this van at a whooping 300 mph. Fact check it Greg. Every ounce of these times came straight from your filing. Every drop of this is your own filing. That you never fact checked or did an estimate for time travel. You have 2 witnesses spotting a van 8 minutes before your scheduled kidnapping. 1 witness that saw the kidnapping at the exact time your officer testified to being on the scene. The only one dead on with the time is MR.S cashing out at 741, 11 minutes exactly from point a to the store from which he traveled from. Cashing him out at exactly 741. He is the only one that's dead on. Then there's Sheriff Nellis whom states on scene time was 758. Which Sheriffs lying?
By Greg's filing this is the time line
734 Fabian spots a van
734 Nellis spots a van
741 Stitson arrives sees nothing
742 Richard kidnaps Heidi
745 Curtis on scene
745/746 Bivens passes the store says he witnessed the kidnapping
748 Richards vans seen at Gary's
Either way you see it. By your own filing Greg. It's all IMPOSSIBLE
                                                                                                                           February 9/18

Brace for IMPACT
February 27th Lisa's side's traveling to take lie detector tests. They will be aired across national television. Offers on the table Murtagh, Wescott, Bohrer, Breckenridge. Here's your chance to clear your name. The show would love to have you. If interested. Reach out here, we will make certain they get in touch with you immediately. Lisa's side's not backing down. Let's see who shows and who doesn't. If you are lying you won't if you are not you'll be there with bells on. DA Oakes when said and done you'll owe tons of folks an apology. Best thing I can tell you. Is you should run, very quickly and as fast as you can. This will air live during the day hitting every liberal city across the East coast. Estimated millions in viewers. Here's your chance "persons of interest" to stand up, grow some balls and let's see if you are lying. But I'll put money on it. Not one of you show.
                                                                                                                           February 9/18

John Kelly Calls Aide Facing Abuse Allegations A Wife Beater Of True Integrity

                                                                                                                           February 9/18

He's at it again

Below was taken from the latest meeting agenda....Wants to charge the tax payers for use of a public park, but will let this organization have it for free? I suppose the use of our DPW workers are at no cost also? So wrong!!!
Agenda Physical Services Committee Meeting Monday, February 5, 2018 Time: 6:30 p.m.
2. Thomas Kells, DPW Commissioner, received communication from Harbor Festivals, Inc., stating Oswego Harborfest 2018 will be held Thursday, July 26 through Sunday, July 29, 2018. Harbor Festivals, Inc. is requesting the use of the City locations listed in the attached correspondence for the specified dates at no cost.

So the mayor is saving money in overtime? How about reporting ALL the numbers? How much has Kells cost the city? New equipment, new hires, bonuses, promotions, made to order titles ( complaint investigator) early retirements, trailer rentals (10,000. a year), contracting his buddies trucks (Riccelli) to haul snow when they used to work with the county for trucks, at little to no cost, new vehicles, security cameras, GPS in all vehicles.. Well, not all vehicles, right Kells??? Just how many huge flat screen tv's? what is the cost comparison of operating the DPW 24/7 vs. running two shifts? Increase fuel consumption, equipment repairs, utilities? Add all this into the equation and then publish the real report. Are those trees they planted around the city, Money Trees? Sure they must be because where is all this money coming from? How much of a tax increase will we see this year? Think about it.
                                                                                                                           February 9/18

I Would Like To Thank.....
…. Mr Tripp and Mr Bell for your complete Ignorance in construction and what it is to lay down to a total clown ( goey ) !

I guess that the maintenance staff , for the oswego city school district, is not able to fix just deliver mail ! Or is mr goey just trying to rule a kingdom !

And , if there were to be a music field to be named after someone , it should be Mr lambert or Mr lisk !

But the school board , gooey are not even addressing the real needs of the students ( trade school ) ! And not that thing in mexico, ny ! Is not a
real trade school !

Window blister is due to no thermo brake, not masonry ! What would goey know about construction ? And it appears that tripp and bell no nothing about commercial construction, but only when to bow or nod !

Time to see why mr goey gets paid $ 250,000,00 per year, plus benefits for the rest of his life ! Are YOU PEOPLE OKAY WITH THIS ? Heck, He even is not that smart!

seven schools, seven principals, but in goey ’s world, TEN Principals ! and not knowing what the count is for vice -principals !
                                                                                                                           February 9/18

Tennessee Sheriff Said 'I Love This Shit' After Ordering Deputies To Shoot Suspect:

                                                                                                                           February 9/18







Today's Quote February 8/2018

A lie would have no sense unless the truth were felt dangerous.

Alfred Adler

Greg Oakes out right lied in his filing.
He writes the on scene time was 745 am. The actual first report for the on scene time by Sheriff Nellis was 758. It later changed to 755. But in Greg's filing he has on scene time as 745. Here's another kicker. Bivens left his house at 730 am per reports, hitting every stop light out of Oswego. It's 16 minutes from his address to dnw store which puts bivens on scene at 746. So Greg why not tell these great citizens how your officers on scene per your filing at the same exact time your eye witness and your witness Stitson was on scene. You can't. Because you can't. You'd think you'd readjust your entire botched lying fraudulent case. Here's the proof. All lies Greg. I pray you are disbarred for filing false information.






                                                                                                                           February 8/18

Oswego City School District Vote
Attention all home owners in the Oswego City School District it is definitely of the utmost importance to get up out your chairs, off of your couches and get out and
vote on this at least 60,180,000.00 proposition. As we all know there are always more things added on in any major project. If this proposition is not voted down you are going to need much more than a "Trump" tax cut. You will be basically owned by the School District once those School Tax bills start arriving every October. It will most likely come to a point where each home owner will have to have a payment book so that they can pay an equal amount every month as a means of keeping up. If you think your quarterly water/sewer bills of 275.00 are high now well I have a news flash for you, YOU HAVEN'T SEEN NOTHING YET!!!
Bottom line if you do not make an effort to get out and vote on March 6 2018 we will all be paying the price for many years to come. I don't know how much room is left down South but should this go through, there had better be a lot of it.
                                                                                                                           February 8/18

Sexual harassment in Albany: 6 years, a thousand complaints and more than $6.4M

                                                                                                                           February 8/18

According to ABC polls (after the SOTU), 80% of Americans agree with Trump

 -- the other 20% are welfare recipients and journalists. thank you mr Trump for MAGA (make America great again) its amazing to see the pride in this country returning....president Trump is doing exactly what we elected him to do ! the state of the union adress was awesome! It sure was not to hard to see what the swamp looks like and the media was helpless to defend them, with president trump leading i believe we will indeed make this country great again Our mayor mr Barlow is doing a fine job, mr kells is shaping this old city up and the dpw crews are a great bunch of hard working folks and our girl friday that also overseas wrights landing you are doing an awesome job this city needs more employees with the desire and drive to make our hometown a better and more beautiful place ....Thank you!.....lets make oswego great again
                                                                                                                           February 8/18


Goewey Trying to Make a Silk Purse Out of a Sow's Ear
In the paper today, Goewey is again trying to lobby for his $60,000,000 debacle and wants to convince the voters of the Oswego School District that this is needed or the schools will crumble to the ground, "says chicken little". We need to spend millions to make the water systems "lead free", which come from the city, the same water that comes into our houses, which is tested and is lead free. Actually, the kids consume 99% of their drinking water at their homes, will occasionally drink from the water fountain, and will drink milk or fruit juice for lunch in the school cafeteria. You can purchase carbon Monoxide detectors just like the ones in most peoples houses for hardly anything, jet the consultants gave a quote of $2,500,000 for Carbon Monoxide detectors and lead free water which the kids don't drink. Draft windows are easily replace, again not an exorbitant cost, and a leaky roof can be taken care of from the $4,000,000 capital reserve fund they have set aside. Crumbing masonry means you call in a mason and point up the brick, and could be done in house.
Lets face it, this whole project is to get the extra money to put in an un-necessary Marching Band Field ($23,000,000) and to name it after Goewey who was a member of the marching band in his youth. They have not mentioned the interest you will be paying on the principle of this bond which will be around $10,000,000 over the next 15 years, not counting the next Bonding issue to come up.
I found it interesting that Goewey stated" for a few dollars a month, the Oswego community has a chance to ensure that generation of future Buccaneers will have safe and comfortable environments for teaching and learning , as well as facilities that are comparable to surrounding districts in our region and that our students and community can be proud of". What he left out is that your tax bill will not be a few dollars a month, but will be over $2,200 a year for a $130,000 house, or $180 per month, which is ,your highest tax liability. With a declining enrollment down to 3,670 from 4,200 just a few years ago, and salaries for teachers and administration at the 5th highest in the state, it looks like it is time to start cutting salaries and teachers, as it takes less teachers to teach 530 less kids, and we need to reduce the number of schools we have. Yes they did reduce teachers in 2017, but added them back in in 2018, and pulled over $4,000,000 out of reserves to be able put the teachers back on. It cost It costs $22,572 per child to educate them each year and the costs are going to continue to increase.
To listen to Goewey, "we have to do it for the kids", which is their usual tugging of the heart strings comets, but in reality, it is for himself and getting his name on an extremely expensive and unjustified Marching Bucs Turf Field. If they continue to increase school taxes, those marginal households will be leaving the area and there will be less people to pay the taxes which will result in another tax increase.
It is time to take control. VOTE NO on March 6th and start replacing the people on the board in the May election, with individuals that understand budgets and how to reduce them, while still providing a quality education for Oswego's kids. Having a graduation rate of 72% in not acceptable! After all, it is about education, not marching bands!
                                                                                                                           February 8/18

Our city is falling apart
This mayor and his sidekick Kells are putting Oswego residents at risk. The streets in this city have been left neglected by not having adequate plows and the potholes will total your car, as there are a few that are more than a foot deep! Traffic is snarled, as cars are sliding in our streets and getting stuck on hills. Tractor trailers are struggling and sliding with full loads, as one nearly jack knifed on 104. The plows, remember the 3 shifts during 24hrs, are very few and the city streets show it. Someone is going to get hurt. Did the person who drove into the marina lawyer up yet?
                                                                                                                           February 8/18

Oswego made the list - as one of 47 worst school districts in Upstate New York, graded for 2018
OCSD you can kiss that 60 million bucks GOODBYE!!!
Oswego City School District (Oswego, Oswego County)
Students: 3,912
Student/teacher ratio: 13:1
Spending per student: $22,003
Overall grade: C
Percent proficient in math: 45%
Percent proficient in reading: 36%
Percent graduation rate: 75%


                                                                                                                           February 8/18

Kells your straight salt is really working really good isn't get some god dam sand down with the salt. Straight salt works on high ways with a lot of traffic not in the god dam city.

Mayor would you like to tell the people how much overtime you paid out last week. Three shifts 8 people on a shift that's two plows east and two plows west. So when we get a storm kells has to call in more people then when there shift is done kells is asking people to stay to cover the next shift coming on. So mayor show us were you save on overtime please. Wounded boy kells thinks he knows what He's doing. GOOD LUCK WITH HIM.

Hey tom how's your 3 shifts working out

Hey seiu 200 keep kells out of the loader He's taking work out of your hands keep letting him do it he will lay u off .

Wake up council do not change the charter for that Dumas's kells dpw employs do not want him there he has ruin so many life's.that's a vote that should go to the public in November.

Don't take it out on the workers for kells f--k up. Kells is the one that sucks
Kells taking care of his friends again hire a truck company Friday Jan 19 2018 to haul snow. BIG F--KING JOKE

Three plows west and one east that's working out real good for you kells NOT. Go home tonight put your head down on your pillow and think what you can come up with next dork.

I see kells taking care of his two big suck asses outing them on straight days keep going kells doing a hell of a Job. NOT.
                                                                                                                           February 8/18







Today's Quote February 7/2018

Advice is like snow - the softer it falls, the longer it dwells upon, and the deeper it sinks into the mind.

Samuel Taylor Coleridge


Way to go Trump! This is all yours and the GOP's! 

Dow Jones drops over 1,200 points in biggest daily points plunge in history!!!

                                                                                                                           February 7/18



60,180,000 School-Tax Proposition Vote

Attention Oswego City School District Tax Payers. It is of the utmost

importance that we "the tax payers" get out and vote next month on

this outrageous $60,180,000.00 Tax Proposition, as with what is now

being discussed among State Republicans about freezing School Tax

on our Senior Citizens and eventually ending the paying of these taxes

to the ones that could use the break more than anyone could imagine.

This would be great for our Seniors and I and many others would be

all for it. Should this happen, What would it do to everyone else's Tax?

Well you combine this increase with your $60,180,000.00 City School

improvements and when you see this future School Tax bill your first

thought will be "SELL! Not quite that easy Folks, Who the hell in their

right mind would want to buy in the Oswego City School District? Do

I really need to answer that? This is why I urge EVERYONE to get up

and to get out to vote next month on this $60,180,000.00 proposition!

You all know the Teachers will be out to vote, you have a pretty good

idea how they'll vote and I am sure most polling places will more than

likely be right there at the Schools, how convenient! The only way we

can offset the majority of these Teachers is to make yourself get out

there and vote unless you want to see those School Taxes going

up and up and up..... Please don't think about voting, DO IT!

                                                                                                                           February 7/18




Pennsylvania Republican Wants Democrats On State Supreme Court Impeached Over Gerrymandering Decision


                                                                                                                           February 7/18



Schoolboard not telling You !

  $ 60,000.000.00 x  arch fee ( %15 )  =  $9,000,000.00


    So if the state pays half,  the city school board stills pays $30,000,000.00 plus the $ 9,000,000.00 =  $  39,000,000.00  But wait, is there a cont. fund ? Which, not knowing that amount,  guessing (  $ 4,000,000.00 ) , this  amt. could  exceed, and i would guess , that there might be a $ 10, 000,000.00 act !


  So, in all talk, it could be  ( if the state kicks in there  $ 30,000,000.00 ) ,  The taxpayers pay $ 30,000,000.00 plus arch fees of  $ 9,000,000.00 plus  cont. fund ( hidden  over looks, dec concerns, epa over looks, new york state  missing  proper tax  revenue ,maintenance of fields, maintenance of the schools, which appears to be missing for the last 40 years ! Then there number should be  $ 49,000,000.00  that the taxpayers  will have to pay ! Of course, if there is  NO HIDDEN FEES !,


  How many schools are there ? If the number is seven, then there should be seven principals , seven vice - principals, end of story ! And transfer the bond off of leighton,  move the students to the other schools ( we are not short of busses )which would put the principals and vice -principals down to  six ( savings to taxpayers ) !






  Get the REAL numbers on student enrollment and the enrollment for the next twelve years ! Time to get rid of this  $ 250,000.00 ,plus benefits, per year , for his life and his wife, NOW

                                                                                                                           February 7/18



County Sees Sharp Increase In Flu Cases


                                                                                                                          February 7/18



Black Student Union at SUNY Oswego

Pall Times had a page 1 story about 50 yrs of the Black Student Union at SUNY.   I wonder if there is a white student union or would that be racist?

                                                                                                                          February 7/18







Today's Quote February 4-6/2018

What we really are matters more than what other people think of us.
Jawaharlal Nehru

Man hospitalized after car falls through ice on Lake Ontario in Oswego
“A man” taken to “a hospital” this has cover up all over it.


                                                                                                                       February 2-3/18

Nelson Cookie Caper
Call Chris Jones at the legislature office and ask if legislators approved the donation. Easy peasy. It doesn’t matter if it’s one cookie or one million the legislature has to approve it. Doesn’t matter anyway because Nelson won’t win. She wouldn’t be ale to hear cases in the county family court because she’s the DSS atty and she’d be in conflict.
                                                                                                                       February 2-3/18

Oswego City Board of Education duping the District Taxpayer's
If the Oswego City School District Taxpayers approve this joke of a proposition, they need their heads examined. The $60,180,000 for school improvements is a scam. The consultant gets paid hundreds of thousands of dollars and gives the school board a bullshit list of repairs, mostly cosmetic, and inflated the repair cost to a total of $41,000,000 spread amoung the 7 buildings. I've been in these buildings and they are in realitivitly good shape and the real needed repairs should not exceed $8,000,000 spread over the 7 buildings. Speaking of 7 buildings, why the fxxk do they have 10 principles with a total salary combined of $1,000,000 not counting benefits? Seems like 7 principles should suffice!
Now, the biggest bullshit expenditure in this proposition, identifying $23,000,000 for a Marching Band practice field and a turf field with a 2,000 seat stadium. This will require that the field be raised by 3-4 feet because it is in a area that floods and will require under ground tanks to collect the flood water during a heavy rain storm. Then the water will be pumped off into a sewer that is 3/4 plugged with silt, reason of the flooding. If you don't think that this isn't for the Marching Band; this was in the paper on June 21, 2017 and was dubbed "The Community Marching Bucs and Athletic Improvement Plan". You can Google this as "Oswego City School District Plans Massive Capital Project"! As most of you know, Oswego doesn't have a varsity football team and we can not compete in the class we are in as the other schools are larger and better. We should go back to an Oswego County league.
The district already has a massive debt of over $50,000,000 and now they (board) want you to approve another Bond for over $58,000,000. They are going to use $4,000,000 in a reserve fund( your money; you were over taxed to create) and another $7,500,000 from your taxes, after they just gave you a 2.5% tax increase. There is another point, 2017 they cut 50 positions and reduced the budget to $79,000,000 which was the right thing to do after losing $4,000,000 from a PIOLT . Fast forward to 2018, added all the positions back, took $2,900,000 from reserve and $1,500,000 from the fund balance and we are right back to an $83,000,000 budget, and they are adding $58,000,000 in bond debt with another $350,000 reduction in PILOT. What a great plan!
Because the people of the district keeps voting unqualified people (no finance or budgeting background and highly political) that will rubber stamp anything the superintendent put in front of them, you will keep getting these foolish plans. Then to top it off, the board is willing to campaign for this foolish plan, with the intention of naming the field the "Goewey Marching Buc's Field". ($23,000,000) Hey it's your money. I will Vote NO when I go to the polls on March 6th!

                                                                                                                       February 2-3/18

The sitting park on water st is being build without thinking of future projects
The buildings north of the no parking park are talking of 4 story condos and an alleged parking garage under building
                                                                                                                       February 2-3/18

Drives To A Marina With No Stop Points
Wow, Kells and his girl friend , and the mayor, and the aldermen, are not walking the physical area of their wards , or are they relying on phone calls to ask for the next side walk repair or tree trimming! And i could be wrong, but I always thought that there was a FENCE Blocking access to wrights landing ! Who is in charge of wrights landing 12 months of the year, 24 hour a day ? Boarder patrol, city police, city of oswego, county, state or that pin head, jason ruddick and his band of business cartoons. cumo lying to the taxpayers ,again ! I hear that the city of oswego, ny LOST that $ 10,000,000.00 on that bidding game, but please call city hall, i am sure that you will get ALL the truth !

Please, go to the next dog and pony show at the board of education meeting ! After all, there was monies for there new walls, floors, and computers, bur the was not any monies spent on 40 year old ( for starts ) ceiling tile in boys locker room , at the high school !
                                                                                                                       February 2-3/18

West 5th St.
Why was the speed limit on W 5th St dropped to 25 mph for the distance from Fitzgibbon’s Drive to Utica St (plus 15 mph in front of KPS)? Also is it really necessary to have a 15 mph limit there for 11 hours a day? They have crossing guards and then the kids are in the bldg. 20 mph there would be slow enough.
I hope they fix these roads when Spring comes with more than pebbles and a little tar. With the taxes in this city the roads should be pot hole free.
                                                                                                                       February 2-3/18

Piece of shit Trump and Sanders and the lies about Comey firing

                                                                                                                       February 2-3/18

ICE Detains Chemist Living In The U.S. For 31 Years In Front Of His Children

                                                                                                                       February 2-3/18

Boat Launch missing Entry Fence
I guess that young lady who is suppose to be in charge of the CITY BOAT LAUNCH, did not know about the hazards of unsecured entries !

I guess the person that went through the city owned boat launch ( no barricade ) , is either wanting to be the next mayor, city atty. or take over jason rudd ’s job !

But of course , this person is more than having the education to be the next mayor, develop guru, aldermen, board of education super ,or DPW ICON In Charge of landlord properties ( after all, is that what he only knows ).

Thank you mr kells for keeping the side walks clear and the sidewalk clear from east first st. to east third street ( other known as the railroad tunnel ) ! And thank you for clearing all of the park sidewalks ! Thank you mr super of schools for your lack of interest to keep sidewalks clear of snow and the school bus stops are also clear ! Thank you board of education members looking into the interests of the students ,and taxpayers and the future to come, instead of the declining role of students, declining graduation at the high school! Mr goey, you are a phony !

Kells, you are a mental midget ! You should be giving monies BACK to the taxpayers !

P.S., Mr Kells, do you have a current driver lic. or a library card ? and the insurance carrier for oswego, ny should start drug testing, mr kells, do you think you can pass ?
                                                                                                                       February 2-3/18

Allison Nelson
Is it true Mike Todd is running her campaign?? Didn't he have a spell or something at one of the polling places a few years ago??

If he is it sure shows her judgement. LOL
                                                                                                                       February 2-3/18

Supreme Court Won't Let Pennsylvania GOP Delay Drawing New Congressional Map

                                                                                                                       February 2-3/18








Today's Quote February 2-3/2018

Kites rise highest against the wind - not with it.
Winston Churchill

The Union Has A Climate Crisis, And Activists Are Ready To Work Around Trump

                                                                                                                        February 2-3/18

Until someone shoots or throws him out of office I think you will see a lot of people working around or just plain ignoring Washington altogether. God forbid he should be killed in office. All his Nazi racist supporters will try and make a martyr out of the douche bag.

Transparency at its finest
Parking enforcement car, plate 3089 sat outside my home from 8:30-8:53 am this morning. They were chatting with what appeared to be a friend, as the parking enforcement car had blinkered over, and friends car followed. The joyous conversation ended just in time for the morning break. Transparency at its finest, lol
                                                                                                                        February 2-3/18

Nunes gave Trump 'secretly altered' version of classified memo

                                                                                                                        February 2-3/18

Drug Testing ...
… for all of city hall and board of education, including the super of schools.

To bad we could not have I. Q. testing for the schoolboard personal ,mayor, dpw. comm., but then I guess we would not have anyone buying coffee and sandwiches and spending taxpayers monies, instead of doing what is best for the students ( voc highschool ) , that thing out in mexico, is not a voc high school ! Eastwood screwed that up years ago ! And now mr. goey, is showing the same lack of fore site !

The unions would love to interact with a voc high school , Makes the blue collar work force ( construction, for starts )better for business and gives professional work and ethics !

Too bad those “smart “ board of education members, along with that BULL SH!T ( super of schools ) does not see this FOR THE STUDENTS ! But I asked for this forty years ago, but no one had the guts to see what was in the best interest for the students !

Ms Baker, did you see this forty years ago ? or did this go on deaf ears ? Mr Goey, you are as phony as they come !
                                                                                                                        February 2-3/18

Combat Veterans Make "Killer" Policemen
How many combat vets on the Oswego PD force? If a cop can't make eye contact with you..he's about to shoot you.


P.S. please don't shoot us
                                                                                                                        February 2-3/18

All the things that are FU**ED up un this country, state,county and city and you are worried if it is ethical or legal to donate cookies!!!!!!!!!!!! You should ask what the other candidates are donating..
                                                                                                                        February 2-3/18

50 worst school districts in Upstate New York, ranked for 2018


                                                                                                                        February 2-3/18

Three of them are in Oswego County. Not to worry! People thinking of moving into the area will see the new ball fields and over look the little things like quality of education and graduation rates.

Youth Bureau
The city or county can't take a donation from a political candidate. Alison Nelson announced she's running for Family Court Judge so she can't donate. Governments have to be politically neutral. Alison should know better.
                                                                                                                        February 2-3/18

Nelson and cookies
The poster is right. It's not ethical and Nelson shouldn't use kids to get votes. The legislature or city or whichever oversees the youth bureau has to vote to accept the donation and they won't accept if it's from a candidate for office.

Her campaign manage Mike Todd should know this.
                                                                                                                        February 2-3/18

Anyone recognize this guy?
The guy in the photo is breaking into vehicles, and stealing the vehicles contents, Wine Creek, Beech Drive are...

                                                                                                                        February 2-3/18

Side Street Just Off Of Water Street, The One That Parks Six Cars...
… the mayor , aldermen and jason roderick okayed a survey of $ 50,000.00 to turn that into a sitting park ! But the cost of the project is over $ 150,000.00 ( wow, 150,000.00 plus another 50,000.00 ) for people to sit in the shade and eliminate parking spaces !

Why not spend the monies to help IMPROVE the store fronts, and some houses along the bridge street from west first street to the forks of the road and towards the college and all the entry points coming in to the city of oswego, ny !

I guess first impressions are not important when driving through or around this fine city !

And I am sure that some people saw on syracuse.com the school ratings of the schools. Not only was the enrollment wrong, but the graduation number wrong !

So, people of the city and school board puff out numbers that are not real and misleading ! Did the city tell you that they might lose that $ 10,000,000.00 grant ? And really, DOG PARK ! Spend another $ 75,000.00 to build, but not give the cost to maintain ! Yep, that will draw people from blocks around, what a draw. Boy, this city just shows how the lack of foresight and it’s strength of greed and control is it’s down fall !

This is one of the many reasons that outside contractors and developers do not want to come to this city ! Yep, build a dog park, waterpark, and a $ 200,000.00 sitting park for twelve people and eliminate six parking spaces . Boy , people are going to come from miles around ! And please , let us show how from west first street to the forks of the road ( northside of the street ) will attract people wanting to live here ! The draw for oswego,ny , a bar, tattoo, pizza shop and if you belong to the right click, the DPW will remove your snow piles for free ! Boy, is the children museum going to be mad , where is the parking going to be ? Where are customers for business
going to start parking ?

Yep, mr jason, you got this all planed out. I bet you get a 4wd truck with a plow also !

That sounds like Market Street.

                                                                                                                        February 2-3/18






Today's Quote February 1/2018
The only thing I regret about my past is the length of it.

If I had to live my life again I'd make all the same mistakes - only sooner.

Tallulah Bankhead



Train Carrying GOP Members Of Congress Collides With Truck

Most injuries sustained by the passengers were the result of a fight which broke out as numerous congressmen pushed and shoved one another while trying to get selfies treating the victims.





re: Oswego City County Youth Bureau
In response to whomever wrote this about the Youth Bureau: First of all, we use their banquet hall at Bridie Manor. Second of all if ANYONE WANTS TO DONATE COOKIES, THEY ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO! It has nothing to do with anyone running for a political position, she offered! WHO CARES AS LONG AS THE KIDS ARE HAPPY, WOW! Find something else to complain about. Leave the kids alone!
                                                                                                                        February 1/18

Pennsylvania GOP leader tells state supreme court he will defy its anti-gerrymandering order
ThinkProgress: Pennsylvania GOP leader tells state supreme court he will defy its anti-gerrymandering order. http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIw-Of4wDY

                                                                                                                        February 1/18



If you have not seen this yet it is worth it.


                                                                                                                        February 1/18






Today's Quote January 31/2018


In politics, nothing happens by accident.

If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.

Franklin D. Roosevelt

Oswego City County Youth Bureau
Whoever runs this ought to be replaced. They are holding a pizza and paint night for kids at a bar/restaurant. Nice.

Worse, Allison Standard Nelson is providing the cookies. Um, she's a candidate for Family Court. How can the city/county accept donations from a political candidate? And isn't she the attorney for DSS?

The city and county can't show favoritism and they can't accept a donation from a political candidate.

And she wants to be a judge? LOL
                                                                                                                        January 31/18

Trump's stupid sitting poses
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Why does Trump always look like he is taking a crap every time he is sitting? Maybe they should just drag that golden commode around for him to sit on so it would look more natural!

Pentagon Blocks Release Of Key Data About Progress On The War In Afghanistan


                                                                                                                        January 31/18

Road salt threatening health of freshwater lakes, study finds
Does this mean they are not to be throwing the snow from the bridge into the river any more. All so how many times does it have to be explained to Kells, so his well knowledge workers will be able to understand????????

                                                                                                                        January 31/18

Governeur St.
Does anyone from back in the day remember Governeur St. It was located
between W. Schuyler and W. Seneca Sts. and 1st. Ave to the West and to
the East was Porter St. Does anyone know how this street suddenly became
Governor St.? I never remember a public notification announcing that this
streets name was being changed from Governeur to Governor. Is this some-
thing that can be done to any of our streets without official notification? If any-
one out there remembers back in the day remembers when this streets name was changed any why could they please respond as it would be interesting
to find out how this name change came all about. Who knows, maybe when
the sign was replaced it was either an error or they just didn't know how to
spell Governeur so they went with Governor when the new sign was made up!
                                                                                                                        January 31/18

More than likely it was some city official who could not spell.
I believe you will find a similar thing with Rathburn Rd. On some old maps and deeds you will find it spelled Rathbun Rd.

Trump’s immigration ‘compromise’ is a trick

                                                                                                                        January 31/18

Kells hires ( with out going to civil or rank hiring )
so ,is this is where this is going ? Kells hires ( as i here this ) a person that has many drug convictions to replace a out going dpw foremen, in which, did not know how to preform in basic math and has a criminal record !

If this is true, would we want to have this person around the public ! And ask, how come the mayor of oswego, ny is at city hall four days a week, but in albany , ny the other three days of the week

And were some of the aldermen hand picked by the mayor ? So not to ask too many questions ?

Just like the Schoolboard and those pics mini me was showing on the lack of maintenance that should of on the maintenance list. Those pics show how the school board and head of buildings and grounds have not had a handle on this for over 40 years !

Hey, mr. mini me, why not show how the street lines faded, or your lack of going to a tri-mester school year ?

This shows the lack of smarts ( or construction and educational fore site ) of school board members for the last 40 years, had no walk inspections of any of the school . I guess it was all about drinking coffee, feeding their faces and patting themselves on the back for showing up to a meeting !

The Mayor of oswego, Kells, dpw comm., Broardwell and the Rep. party of oswego county, should be real proud of this pick ! Is this the best that you can do ?
                                                                                                                        January 31/18

Drug Testing
I am surprised that these fine aldermen have not called for or the insurance carrier to ask for the city of oswego, ny for drug testing of the mayor, comm of the dpw, and his new hires !

This would be a big part in reducing the cost of insurance to the tax payers !
                                                                                                                        January 31/18

Syracuse Hosting Tattoo Fest
What a great thing the mayor, jason ruddrick, broad well ( at his place of course ) is to host “ tattoo fest “.
This would draw people from near and far, and would help the city ,and that new waterpark on broad well property !

That sign , along with habourfest, will put oswego back on the map !
                                                                                                                        January 31/18







Today's Quote January 30/2018

Reputation is what men and women think of us; character is what God and angels know of us.

Thomas Paine

Facebook And Google's Surveillance Capitalism Model Is In Trouble

This is for the gentleman whose daughter was being bullied (assaulted) in high school.
I can help you by offering some validation. My mother once enrolled me in a parochial school (St. Mary's) in the hopes that I would be educated in a more God-centered, hospitable learning environment. While some important tenets of Catholicism were sprinkled amongst our scholastic activities, the student body was something of a bear. My classmates were quite arrogant and judgmental. Although they talked the talk of tolerance, they isolated and bullied any student who didn't embrace their liberal views (by that time, the Sixties Generation had already made its imprint on the national psyche). One student actually threatened to beat me up because I opposed abortion. The school's headmaster, Sister Mary Brigit Warner, was abrasive and no refuge for students in distress. I wish I could have sucker-punched those ruthless brats. After one year, my mother pulled me out.
                                                                                                                        January 30/18

Why are the taxpayers forking out thousands of dollars to have Riccelli haul away snow that is melting? It is not needed. Must be Riccelli donated largely to our little Trump Barlow. Barlow is not saving the taxpayers any money, he is bankrupting us.
                                                                                                                        January 30/18

Lying , goes with their Greed, Please Do Not Sign This Person To A Ten Year Contract
I would like to thank the Board of Education sharing Plans to build, but not showing what the future COULD SHOW for the students !
Check enrollment thru the year books !

So, enrollment is falling, but yet , this is a great to what ?

After all , 15% monies spent, but if there is cost over runs , this will past over $ 69,000.000.00

This still, does not answer the graduation , even through, some of the students are not passing the tests .

But the school board shows to new york state, that Students are passing ( which twenty % are not ) the school district. will not see a reduction, but raise in monies increase, which, is not true. So the lying to the taxpayers, continues !

$ 23 million to the high school, for what ?

I do not know about you, but I do not like being lied too , do you ?

P.S. ,drove by the DPW, and saw eight 4wd trucks ,with plows !

And also saw the young blonde driving a ( city ) ford 250 truck with plow at 11:33 am at price chopper ( 1 - 29 -18 )

And i will admit, she IS good looking ! Mr. Kells Has good taste in females, but bad choice in construction !

And what time does the engineering dept. start showing some balls or smarts, and tell this pinhead how he should do some of the work,

or is this just another rollover ?

After all, Kells is nothing more than a landlord, with no construction exp., but so is the aldermen and board of education !
                                                                                                                        January 30/18

Allison Standard Nelson & Thom Benedetto
These 2 clowns are the best the republicans could come up with to try to unseat Kim Seager. None of the local yokel lawyers want to run for family court judge because they are all salivating to run for DA.

DA pays a lot more money and there's a lot of contenders. It will be interesting to see who the party will pick. Chances are it won't be Oakes. He'll never get past the northern alliance and some of the other towns.

The northern alliance will probably endorse Benedetto since they are the strongest committee in the county, he'll probably get the endorsement. Nelson has zero personality and word on the street is she's not well liked.
                                                                                                                        January 30/18

Republicans Beg Supreme Court To Let Them Keep Using An Unconstitutional Map

                                                                                                                        January 30/18







Today's Quote January 29/2018

Our entire life - consists ultimately in accepting ourselves as we are.
Jean Anouilh

RE: Who will be next
Everyone knows who will be replacing the supervisor.....Just what experience does SHE bring to the position? And why go to council for a monthly truck allowance now when she has been bringing the truck home for almost a year? And why has she been able to bring the truck home and not every Foreman? And while bringing the truck home, she was only the marina supervisor. Mayor is quick to announce that he has been saving the city in overtime fees. How about reporting the real numbers? Just how much has Kells cost the city? How many of HIS people has he given jobs to? Does the DPW really need a Complaint Investigator? Does the DPW need all those secretaries? Do they need a Foreman for every 6-8 workers? Why is there "Supervisors" when you have Foremen? Why does he need an assistant? Past Commissioners did a great job with half of the work force Kells has hired and no assistant! So where are the savings? There is a lot of new faces around the DPW . So just how is that saving the city money? You need to read between the lines tax payers!!! Oh and by the way, have you seen what he has done to the parking lot of the DPW? Looks like a dump!!!
                                                                                                                        January 29/18

From what I hear he is so paranoid there are surveillance cameras covering every square inch of the DPW inside and out, including the area where the public dumps leaves.

The Obstruction Case Is Getting Solid

                                                                                                                        January 29/18






Today's Quote January 27/2018

Without wearing any mask we are conscious of, we have a special face for each friend.
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.

Who will be next!
Just was told a Supervisor is retiring! Who will the great commissioner replace him with? Retire or be fired is the way he is being handled by the great commissioner! Why would we let all these great employees be pushed out the door by this guy? How many more of our outstanding workers will leave in fear! Time for this commissioner to go! He has broken so many ethic codes yet he is pushing our best employees into retirement! Wake up Oswego before it is to late!!
                                                                                                                      January 26/18

Republicans silent on Pa. congressman accused by ex-aide

                                                                                                                      January 27/18

Schoolboard Badmath...
one of the things that they are not telling you , is that , a bond can be moved !

And Mr. Goey, knows what the next five years are going to bring ! After all, why does the board of education pay him $ 250,000.00 a year PLUS BENEFITS a year for the rest of his life and his wife !

So I guess that the board of education are clueless on what construction is needed !

So I guess , that the super of schools did not tell you, is that the arch. firm ( king and king ) will make over 9 million dollars , which would put the cost at $ 69,000,000.00

How come the super and the board did not tell the taxpayers ?

How come you have a Paid employee for the city of oswego, on the school board ?

And WHO does the time sheets, provides who works what, provide when to delay ( under what guildelines ) , close, and WHO are YOU Answering Too ? Because , I want too meet the person calling the shots !

If the Library is NOT PART of the SCHOOL DIST. , AND is NOT part of the city, county or state, then WHO is PULLING THE STRINGS ?
                                                                                                                      January 27/18


How does a City Charge for public use , when OWNED by the taxpayers ?

Taxpayers pay for all up keep on the parks , all year round, so why is this pin head KELLS even talking about this ?

Is this to pay for two more new trucks ?

Kells could not manage a ant farm !
                                                                                                                      January 27/18

If The Schoolboard Would Tell..
!. how many retiriee’s are paying school tax
2. how many families that work pay school tax
3. how many landlords paying school tax , based on low assessment value ?
4. 23 million builds a new building, new thought, build a vocational high school !
5.arch. fee is around 15% So King and King, will make around 9million dollars ! So of course, they are going to pump up the work !
6. The Middle School was built to code, no need to change the width of the hallways !
7. A bond on a building can be removed at any time !
8. Mr. Goey can provide student enrollment ( approx) for the next five years, so if he says that he cannot, he is either bad at his job or a liar !
9. if good paying jobs where here in oswego county, city of oswego, then people would look at the School District and it’s performance with the thought of moving here, but with the lack of steady jobs, welfare, retirement and high taxes seems to be the biggest draw !
10. If the School District. is so concerend, how come the students are not in trimesters ?
11. If the School District. and the Comm. of the DPW are so smart, then how come THEY do not work together on snow clearing on BUS STOPS ? I guess it is okay for the students to walk in the streets if the CITY PARK SIDEWALKS are not CLEARED!
12. Kells, nice job of clearing the entrance to the walkway from east first street to east third street ( old railroad tunnel ) ! Old people and kids use that passage way !
13. Did all these new ford trucks that are being handed out ( like candy ) go out to bid, or did the Mayor and his Greedy Bitch, side step the bidding process ?
                                                                                                                      January 27/18







Today's Quote January 26/2018

If Winter comes, can Spring be far behind?
Percy Bysshe Shelley


Another Oswego County Firefighter Caught Stealing From His Department

Looks like another community service case Ed.


                                                                                                                      January 26/18


He will probably get the max. I think that is three weeks with time off for good behavior.


The only reason he wanted to be judge is he split from another wife and his limited law practice couldn’t support her and his bad habits. Now he gets a paycheck along with all the sexual favors desperate women in family court are willing to give.
I think when he took Gosek as a client a lot of people had second thoughts about him.
Re: Scriba nuke plants...lrate increase is a scam by the power companies & PSC
Lawsuit charges that the PSC failed to follow the law in giving up to $7.6 billion in ratepayer money over 12 years (2017 to 2029) to aging New York nuclear plants, including James A. FitzPatrick, R.E. Ginna, and Nine Mile Point Unit 1 and Unit 2.

                                                                                                                      January 26/18


Another local joke. He used to brag how he kept files on certain people. It never fails. When you can not keep your dick in your pants you eventually end up tripping over it.

DPW chipper truck, waste of tax payers money.
DPW truck with chipper stops at the corner of W 3rd. and Schuyler Streets. The passenger who is barely able to move gets out fires up the "chipper", sends the first tree through the chipper. Looks over and sees the second tree lying there. Then looks around, shuts off the "chipper" and climbs back up in the truck and the truck drives slowly away...
(There's a great video of this.)
                                                                                                                      January 26/18



Declining Enrollment And Sports
People in general are moving out of New York especially counties like Oswego with high unemployment. The only population on the increase is the HUDDERS. They just come to school for the free breakfast and lunch. Most are too lazy to play with themselves.
                                                                                                                      January 26/18

Nuke plants shutting down. Waste f money to keep them running

                                                                                                                      January 26/18

re, Barlow and Kells are failing
Failing hell! They are ripping off the taxpayers and doing a damn fine job of it.
                                                                                                                      January 26/18







Today's Quote January 24-25/2018

It's better to be a lion for a day than a sheep all your life.
Elizabeth Kenny

The world hates President Trump

                                                                                                                      January 24-25/18

The Fix Is In
Now that Benedetto has entered the race for Family Court Judge, Seager and Nelson might just as well drop out and save themselves the money and aggravation. When Benedetto came close to winning the Republican Primary in 2014 against Ebby and did win the Conservative Primary, the Republicans knew they had to do something to unite a candidate with the Republican/Conservative lines. Splitting the vote would have opened the possibility of the Democratic candidate getting the seat, even thought the Democrats had a very weak candidate, that probably could not have won, even if the vote was split.
The Republicans needed to secure a candidate and their chosen boy was Ebby. A deal was made to get Benedetto off the line even though it was too late to decline. A deal was cut with Benedetto to run in Queens County for an open judge seat which would legally allow the Conservative to remove Benedetto and give Ebby the line, securing that the vote would not be split, and knowing that the Democrats did not have a strong enough candidate to win with those two lines sealed up. Benedetto prostituted himself for the promise that the Republicans and the Conservatives would give him those lines on the next Family Court Election; which is up this year (2018). There is no doubt that this deal will be consummated and Seager and Nelson will have to go after the minor lines which will not get them the seat that they desire. Seager should never be re-elected anyway, with her history of bad decisions. She felt when the cost to the county to keep a child safe was more important than the welfare of the child in question, therefore she put the child back into the families that were abusing the kids instead of foster care. Saving county money, instead of protecting a child from the abuse by being sent back to that environment, is never the right decision of a Family Court Judge!
So, the "Fix Is In", and your next Family Court Judge will be Benedetto. He made a conscious decision to prostitute himself for the promise of the Republican and Conservative lines, and those committees will give it to him. I am sure that Benedetto is qualified for the job, but one has to wonder when running for esteemed, privileged positions, such as a judgeship, that deals of this nature, are allowed to contaminate the election system.
                                                                                                                      January 24-25/18

Congratulations to the nurse who recently landed herself a Wahrendorf! And a “doctor”! Not only are you guaranteed a venereal disease but you also can live knowing your husband has his eye on almost every other woman in the area. A college town is not the best choice sweetie
                                                                                                                      January 24-25/18

Oswego =
Wrong is right
Right is wrong
This is the logic that has is and likely will prevail
Inquiring minds need to know
Please leave comments short concise and factual.
                                                                                                                      January 24-25/18

Kells grab-fest continues...
I see the common council tabled Kells request for a fee schedule for non-pavilion use of Breitbeck Park at Monday night's meeting...Also, I see two supervisors for the DPW (recreation maintenance and waterfront) were approved by councilors for a monthly vehicle allowance...guess they didn't want it to look like too many taxpayer dollars were going in Kells direction at the same meeting..If anyone else is tired of these criminals (mayor included) acting with impunity while squandering your tax dollars, here is where to file a complaint with Eric Schneiderman's Office...

                                                                                                                      January 24-25/18

After they get the $60 million plus for the renovations how much more and how long will it be before they come back for raises for the faculty and staff and new school busses? They will never have enough or be satisfied. And the do it for the kids is a scam. How does this make better educated kids ready to compete in college or the job market? Please give the taxpayers a break. Oswego is not the Emerald City and the man behind the curtain is just using smoke and mirrors to sell this new attack on the taxpayers. By the way, when have these projects ever come in on budget or on time ? VOTE NO!
                                                                                                                      January 24-25/18

Justice Department threatens to subpoena records in escalating battle with ‘sanctuary’ jurisdictions

                                                                                                                      January 24-25/18

Scriba nuke plants. Investigate the company who runs them.
If they did this Jersey. Then they did it at Nine Mile to keep them open, and operating. http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/emails-utility-worked-christie-staff-shield-data-52580641

Lobbyists for New Jersey's largest utility worked with former Gov. Chris Christie's administration to craft a $300 million bail out for nuclear power, while adding language to shield the company's financial information from the public, according to records obtained by The Associated Press. ...
                                                                                                                      January 24-25/18








Today's Quote January 23/2018

Always laugh when you can. It is cheap medicine.
Lord Byron

The #SchumerShutdown Hashtag Is Getting A Big Boost From Russian Bots

                                                                                                                      January 23/18

Lindsey Graham Slams Trump Aide, Says White House Staff Making Negotiations ‘Difficult’

                                                                                                                      January 23/18

I don"t understand why we have to waste all this money on a new rearranging of fields. 1) There is maybe 5 months of the year that these fields are used (maybe) 2) When was the last OUTSIDE SPORT THAT WON a title , maybe softball . 3) All the winning sports have been indoors, volleyball, and i believe that is it, also maybe swimming. We are out of our LEAGUE trying to compete with the Syracuse area, lets be REAL they have a bigger base to choose from, YOU don" see them forfiet games . OSWEGO and surrounding schools should go back to a county league, thats when there was good competition !!!!!!!! NOT LIKE TODAY, ITS WHAT YOUR LAST NAME IS, THE SAME WAY IT WAS 50 YEARS AGO its really SAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                                                                                      January 23/18

Barlow and Kells are failing
Hey Barlow, Kells
There as been warm weather of late and yet nothing is being done to fix the foot deep potholes in this rundown city. You are failing as mayor, and Kells is failing as head of the DPW. This city looks like crap! The potholes are causing all kinds of issues, not to mention people's cars being ruined. People are on a slalom course when driving on Bridge/104, to avoid damage to their vehicle! These holes are deep, and someone's going to get hurt! You keep running your mouth and nothing is happening in this city. The lights on the bridge have been out for how long now? You can't even keep them lit. You don't care about anything, other than the money your reaping in. And what's funny is that there are now 24 hrs of DPW workers that could do some work at night, so as to not cause a traffic mess. But, what is happening is that there are many trucks getting rid of snow piles, and if you focused on the potholes instead, you'll notice that warm and rain melts the damn snow! Fing stupid! Good job mayor!
                                                                                                                      January 23/18

Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke Held Onto Undisclosed Shares In Gun Company

                                                                                                                      January 23/18

What they are not telling us about the new athletic fields will blow your mind.
Most people have heard how the whole place, two schools, and ball fields are built on an old city dump not to mention there is a stream that goes through it underground. Then thanks to the engineering of Tony Leotta the storm sewers that come down Hillside and Utica St. overflow during heavy rain and flood the area.. Ever since Leighton School was built the taxpayers have been paying to remediate the problems caused by the settling of the land and constant flooding.

As a remedy or band aid for this new project the district hired its own engineers to deal with the flooding. Underneath the new fields there will be built a system of plastic storage tanks and plumbing that is supposed to hold the storm sewer runoff and then release it at a later time.

Wouldn’t it be a better idea to take the 60 million and hire a real contractor from out of town to build a school that wasn’t on a landfill?
                                                                                                                      January 22/18

Trump Campaign Uses Shutdown To Accuse Democrats Of Being Complicit In Murder

                                                                                                                      January 23/18








Today's Quote January 22/2018

Just because nobody complains doesn't mean all parachutes are perfect.
Benny Hill

School lunch shaming: What do schools do when student accounts run out


                                                                                                                       January 22/18

City of Syracuse enforcing snow plow regulations


                                                                                                                       January 22/18

You will never see that happen in Ozwego.

Trump Campaign Uses Shutdown To Accuse Democrats Of Being Complicit In Murder

                                                                                                                       January 22/18

Oswego City School Board Members School Taxes
I was curious as to the School Tax Liability the OCSD Board Members have. Checking on their liability is one way to understand why OCSB members might vote to raise taxes with this foolish $60,000,000 expenditure. Some interesting stuff came up:
Aimee Callen School tax liability....$12,026 ... certainly can afford a tax increase
Brain Chetney...School tax liability ....$2,669...
Tom DeCastro...School tax Liability....$157......Will not affect him
Brando Lagoe....School tax liability.....$1895...
Lynda Sereno....School tax liability.....$1798....
Sam Tripp.....School tax liability....$1695 ( his house $597)...will not affect him
Jim Bell...School tax liability...$6335....Now there is some interesting information that seems a bit fishy:
Jim lives at 90 Hart Street. He was recently appointed as the Code Enforcement Director, which means that the rentals he owns will always be in code. (159 W 5thng, 155 W 5th). The assessments on these two buildings are very low $72,000 and $78,000. Looks like Sue Deary forgot to due a reassessment on these as they each would be $100,000 plus. Gee, how surprising coming from that crooked department. Word was that he also bought into the two car washes in Oswego (244 Washington Av and 145 George St) with a total School tax liability of over $10,000. This is where the story becomes a bit fishy. Tax records show that the owners are :
Robert Reifinger who has an address of 90 Hart Street (same as Bell), and Sue Reifinger who has an address of 37 O'Brien Glenway. The Reifingers did live at 37 O'Brien Glenway but sold the property in 2013 and it again sold to another person in 2016. How are the property records reflecting Reifinger's address as the same as Jim Bell, but Bell owns the property? How is it that sue Reifinger is listed as the owner of 37 O'Brien Glenway when it was sold in 2013 and is listed under another persons name?. There are no other records regarding the Reifingers other than the ownership of both carwashes listing inaccurate or fraudulent home addresses.
Property Description Report For: 145 George St, Municipality of City of Oswego
No Photo Available Status: Active
Roll Section: Taxable
Swis: 351200
Tax Map ID #: 128.43-01-04
Property Class: 434 - Auto carwash
Site: COM 1
In Ag. District: No
Site Property Class: 434 - Auto carwash
Zoning Code: B1
Neighborhood Code: 12403
Total Acreage/Size: 155.18 x 265.7 School District: Oswego
Land Assessment: 2017 - $145,400 Total Assessment: 2017 - $300,000
Full Market Value: 2017 - $300,000
Equalization Rate: ---- Property Desc: Tp 17, Lot 10, B 87 200-013-000
Deed Book: 2011 Deed Page: 10567
Grid East: 846380 Grid North: 1261650
Robert D Reifinger
90 Hart St
Oswego NY 13126
Susan J Reifinger
37 O'Brien Glenway
Oswego NY 13126
Sale Date Price Property Class Sale Type Prior Owner Value Usable Arms Length Addl. Parcels Deed Book and Page
11/3/2011 $650,000 434 - Auto carwash Land & Building Barbera, James J No No Yes 2011/10567
Sewer Type: Comm/public Water Supply: Comm/public
Utilities: Gas & elec
Overall Eff Year Built: 0 Overall Condition: Good
Overall Grade: Average Overall Desirability: 4
AC% Sprinkler% Alarm% Elevators Basement Type Year Built Condition Quality Gross Floor Area (sqft) Stories
0 0 100 0 1988 Good Economy 3900 1
0 0 100 0 1988 Good Economy 2400 1
0 0 0 0 2004 Normal Average 1050 1
Structure Size Grade Condition Year
Pavng-asphlt 29225 × 3 Average Normal 1988
Pavng-asphlt 29225 × 4 Average Normal 1988
Fldlt-incand 260.00 sq ft Average Normal 1988
Strlt-incand 12.00 sq ft Average Normal 1988
Ovrhdoor-com 14 x 12 Average Normal 1988
Sign-sgl pls 0 x 0 Economy Normal 1988
Sign-dbl wd 0 x 0 Economy Normal 1988
Special Districts for 2017
No information available for the 2017 roll year.
Year Description Amount Exempt % Start Yr End Yr V Flag H Code Own %
Year Description Amount
2018 County $2,899.38
2017 County $2,881.97
2017 School $6,404.38

* Taxes reflect exemptions, but may not include rece
Property Description Report For: 244 George Washington Blvd, Municipality of City of Oswego
No Photo Available Status: Active
Roll Section: Taxable
Swis: 351200
Tax Map ID #: 127.67-04-05.2
Property Class: 436 - Self carwash
Site: COM 1
In Ag. District: No
Site Property Class: 436 - Self carwash
Zoning Code: B1
Neighborhood Code: 12401
Total Acreage/Size: 33.15 x 170.8 School District: Oswego
Land Assessment: 2017 - $139,100 Total Assessment: 2017 - $220,000
Full Market Value: 2017 - $220,000
Equalization Rate: ---- Property Desc: M 5, L 24 795-006-000
Deed Book: 2011 Deed Page: 10567
Grid East: 834220 Grid North: 1258340

Robert D Reifinger
90 Hart St
Oswego NY 13126
Susan J Reifinger
37 O'Brien Glenway
Oswego NY 13126

Sale Date Price Property Class Sale Type Prior Owner Value Usable Arms Length Addl. Parcels Deed Book and Page
11/3/2011 $650,000 436 - Self carwash Land & Building Barbera, James J No No Yes 2011/10567

Sewer Type: Comm/public Water Supply: Comm/public
Utilities: Gas & elec

Overall Eff Year Built: 0 Overall Condition: Normal
Overall Grade: Average Overall Desirability: 3

AC% Sprinkler% Alarm% Elevators Basement Type Year Built Condition Quality Gross Floor Area (sqft) Stories
0 0 100 0 1978 Normal Average 3420 1

Structure Size Grade Condition Year
Pavng-asphlt 32425 × 2 Average Fair 1978
Sign-dbl met 24.00 sq ft Average Fair 1978
Shed-machine 10 × 12 Average Normal 2013

Special Districts for 2017
No information available for the 2017 roll year.

Year Description Amount Exempt % Start Yr End Yr V Flag H Code Own %

Year Description Amount
2018 County $2,126.22
2017 County $2,113.44
2017 School $4,696.54
                                                                                                                       January 22/18






Today's Quote January 21/2018

The ninety and nine are with dreams,

content but the hope of the world made new,

is the hundredth man who is grimly bent on making those dreams come true. Edgar
Edgar Allan Poe


Dickie Murtagh
I saw some posts by someone portraying Rich Murtagh that infers burning down someone's house. Is he the unknown firebug in Oswego County? The coward probably deleted the posts by now.

Maybe the State Police or FBI should look into connection.!
                                                                                                                       January 21/18

You use to go to Lowes and just show your veterans card to get a military discount on whatever you purchased at Lowes. But that does not work anymore. Now a veteran has to create an account at Lowes, and give Lowes your driver’s license information, telephone number, and your military discharge papers in order to get a Lowes military discount.

You can KISS MY ASS Lowes. I’ll take my business elsewhere from no on. My veteran card is good enough at other businesses!
                                                                                                                       January 20/18


They were convenient for some things you had to have right now and when Raby’s was closed but I am with you on their new policy. All they are doing is mining a lot of customer data which they can sell. That means more robo-calls and more junk mail. I bought a dryer from them that worked fine. I bought a refrigerator that is junk.








Today's Quote January 19-20/2018

Thousands of geniuses live and die undiscovered - either by themselves or by others.
Mark Twain

I can say that yes alot of people are not happy with the way Kells has been running things..but i can say that there were alot more plows out xmas day then just one...trust me...were not that happy but even tho people dont think so...we do our dam job..people came in on their day off instead of being with their family..so dont blame the DPW workers..we do the best we can
                                                                                                                       January 20/18

Re: Oswego Eyes Fee For Use Of Breitbeck Park
Kells continues to screw this city over with unbridled impunity...Why shouldn't he, our myopic mayor could care less because Kells 'paid to play'...As if it doesn't cost enough to fund a wedding nowadays, especially if the reception is held at Broadwells...Now he can gouge a few more dollars for taking pictures at a public park...The temerity of Kells and all other autocratic politicos in Oz will continue to drive out decent hard working taxpayers to be replaced with more that are impoverished, and with them more crime and drugs (no taxes paid either)...Maybe Kells realizes this and is why he's digging in the pockets of newlyweds...Keep it up Kells, you'll be the head of the DPW in a city that you and your ilk will have turned into a ghost town...some legacy...sick of it all, but mainly Kells...
                                                                                                                       January 20/18

Playing a dangerous game' Under EPA administrator Scott Pruitt’s leadership
EPA eases path for new chemicals, raising fears of health hazards - NBC News https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/epa-eases-path-new-chemicals-raising-fears-health-hazards-n838201

                                                                                                                       January 20/18

Trump Montreal - cognitive-assessment test this confirms it. He is a genius

                                                                                                                       January 20/18

Kell's and his clown council
OSWEGO – Couples looking to celebrate their weddings in Oswego’s Breitbeck Park are likely going to be hit with a fee.
At Tuesday night’s Administrative Services Committee meeting, councilors gave a favorable recommendation to a request by Tom Kells, DPW commissioner, to approve a charge a per hour fee for use of Breitbeck Park (non-pavilion area) for weddings.
In past years, there has been no charge for use of Breitbeck Park outside of the pavilion area.
Kells is suggesting:
• Up to and including one hour – $25
• More than one hour, up to and including two hours – $50
• More than two hours, up to and including three hours – $100
• More than three hours, up to and including four hours – $200
• Anything more than four hours will be charged a rate of $100 per hour.
These weddings will be considered ‘events’ and the person will need to speak with Events Planning at Community Development.

Are you fricking kidding me? Renting the pavilion, yes. But, renting the public park? Why is Kells suggesting this? And the clown council are in favor? Of course they are. They are nothing more than the clowns in Kell's circus, bought and paid for. These weddings will be considered "events". So the couple renting the park will have a public event? Or will the park be closed during this time? I'm sure the poor couple renting the park might have a problem with strangers attending their "event". Oh we get it. Maybe he is just trying to find a suitable job for his girl...Friday Foreman.
                                                                                                                       January 20/18

Price Chopper's $6.5 million OT settlement in final stages

Times Union : Price Chopper's $6.5 million OT settlement in final stages.


                                                                                                                       January 20/18

Judge Clary, Dodd, Oakes:
Why was the jury permitted to go to the OCSD garage to look at the van that prior testimony established there was no DNA, fingerprints, fibers, etc... that were linked to Heidi ever being in it? There wasn't even positive testimony from Gary's adult neighbors that the black and white van belonging to Richard was identified at Gary's on the morning of April 3, 1994. Fact that OCSD and Dodd KNEW that the minor neighbor did not state until months before the trial began that she even (thought she) saw Richard's van at Gary's? Criminal witnesses, witnesses with a personal grudge, witnesses with an emotional connection were believed over truly disinterested witnesses? Like the homeowner near the D&W, like the FBI agent who testified about the forensic testing.

Did you three even/ever peruse all the documents available from OCSD? No concern that the lead OCSD investigator blatantly lied in a Court of Law? Had you been attentive to details, you would have clearly seen the notes about Baldasaro's "deal" for testifying. You would have clearly seen the inconsistencies between the theories and the facts/truth as was (falsely) portrayed. You would have clearly seen the timeline of events did not match the theory presented. You would have seen the Fact that Heidi was a CI whose confidential information was exposed to the public. You would have seen the Fact that Heidi never mentioned Gary in her CI status. Simply...doesn't add up to a reasonably/unbiased thinking person.

Really would like to know

                                                                                                                       January 20/18

Fee For Use Of Breitbeck Park
Kell’s saved money all winter at Brietbeck park. Did not plow park people like to go there to walk their dog. Also street lights have been turned off. One of our past mayor’s only turned off one on his favorite corner.

                                                                                                                       January 20/18

Fracking Lobbyists Plan to Spend Big at Trump Hotel

                                                                                                                       January 20/18







Today's Quote January 17/2018

I wouldn't change one thing about my professional life,

and I make it a point not to dwell on my mistakes.
Ethel Merman

I was wondering who owns the property at the ,northwest corner of east 10th and mohawk st. I was told our DPW commissioner Mr. Kells ,owns this , and you HAVE TO WALK IN THE ROAD to get by this mess, i have almost gotten hit trying to PULL OUT INTO the intersection, several times . HE TELLS OTHERS TO KEEP CORNERS OPEN must be he is exempt being MR. BIG !!!!!!!! Older people with walkers,canes etc. have to go out in the road to get AROUND THIS MESS . CLEAN IT UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                                                                                       January 16/18

oswegonylion home page
Just saw an older woman walking across Utica St. Bridge in the road. Walks were not cleared, shame. shame Mr.Kells. PS She also had a walker.
                                                                                                                       January 16/18

Trump administration will ask Supreme Court to allow it to end DACA

                                                                                                                       January 16/18

Murtagh Real Winner
Lovely idea Murtagh had today posting across fb that he promises the Thibodeau family they soon won't have a place to lay their heads. When asked if it was a threat. He responded it was a promise. Well here is one hell of a promise to good ol Dickie. Everything you have ever posted is and has been recorded. Not by OCSD, the joke. But a dept. That doesn't arrest souly on assumption. Here's another promise Good ol lying Dickie, anything happens at all to any of their family. Your posts will be directed straight to the news and the FBI. What has happened to you Murtagh is not the Thibodeaus fault. It is of your own doing. You can also thank your group of under achieving wanna be gangster friends Steen, Breckenridge, Bohrer whom all reported your name, directly or through each other. Along with Ms. Westcott who threw you under the bus 4 years ago. Not one person other than your own clan ever reported you and your actions in this case other than the very company you kept. You deserve every ounce of back lash. Not them, YOU. Pretty sad Dickie you can't accept the sick shit you've actively been a part of. What's your issue? Afraid telling the truth you'll lose everything you've ever earned, through your drug trading in the 90's. What does it matter if you do? You were a direct part of taking the life and everything of 2 others. It's called Karma. In 4 days the ball starts rolling in the direction of bringing you straight to your knees. Best start praying now. You are going to need it. I would start wheeling and dealing Murtagh. I was told this. "The first one whom does is saved the rest will burn in hell. "
                                                                                                                       January 16/18

Liz Cheney U.S. lawmakers urge AT&T to cut commercial ties with Huawei
Exclusive: U.S. lawmakers urge AT&T to cut commercial ties with Huawei - sources

U.S. lawmakers are urging AT&T Inc, the No. 2 wireless carrier, to cut commercial ties to Chinese phone maker Huawei Technologies Co Ltd and oppose plans by telecom operator China Mobile Ltd to enter the U.S. market because of national security concerns, two congressional aides said.
                                                                                                                       January 16/18

My first “smart” phone was a Huawei.  Beileve me no one has anything to fear from a company that makes phones that are that fu**ed up.

Foreign governments, candidates, trade groups spent at Trump properties: report

Sixty-four trade groups, foreign governments, Republican candidates and others stayed at or held events at properties linked to U.S. President Donald Trump during Trump's first year in office, a political watchdog group said in a report released on Tuesday.
                                                                                                                       January 16/18






Today's Quote January 16/2018

A learned fool is more a fool than an ignorant fool.

Syracuse should set example and plow city-owned sidewalks
This goes for Oswego also. The city picks and choses which public walk they want to do, Or if Kells likes you.

                                                                                                                       January 16/18

N.J. governor plans a swing to the left — and a model for the country

                                                                                                                       January 16/18

Oswego City School District Fake enrollment reported for Bond Anticipation Note
In Oct of 2016, the OCSD Board of Education and the OSWEG City School District Officials applied for a renewal of a Bond Anticipation Note for the sum of $14,200.000- Note 2016A. This required that they report a lot of data regarding city property taxes, city income levels and student enrollment. This is used to show the need for the loan and the stability of the district. Reading the report and comparing enrollment, a red flag popped up. The enrolment numbers supplied by the school district are different than those reported to the New York State Education Department. Seems the OCSD business office inflated the enrollment numbers to show an increase in enrollment rather than a decrease to make a more positive case to secure the loan. There are a lot of people who are responsible for the accuracy of this loan data to include the BOE, Office of the Superintendent, and outside firms that worked on the application. Here are the enrollment numbers from the application as compared to the enrollment numbers that were reported to the state.

These enrollment data are collected as part of NYSED's Student Information Repository System (SIRS) reported by the OCSD. This shows enrollment steady decrease.

2016-17........3674.....down 280 students

Here are the numbers for enrollment reported by the OCSD Office for the Bond Anticipation Note 2016A which shows an inflated enrollment instead of a decreasing enrollment. Something smells over at OCSD. This shows steady enrollment increase.

2016-17........ projection as numbers were not available steady enrollment with a increase of 36

Makes you wonder what else they inflated?

Board of Eduction
Glad to see that the Schoolboard is so lacking in students needs ( some want to go to a trade )

Did the “ board “ look at vocational teaching ?

Did the “ board “ look at tri-semesters at the mid school and high school level ?

Did the “board “ tell the taxpayers of the decline in enrollment ?

Did the ‘ board ‘ and the dpw ,talk about school bus stops ( snow clearing for the students )?

And who is the aldermen person responsible for the side walks at Oak Hill Park ?

And a city and former board of education member lives with in feet of this school bus stop, but yet ,No concern over students education and direction !

Yep, I would be REAL PROUD to pay this Super of Schools $ 250,000.00 ,PLUS Health Insurance ( for life ) , plus pension(for life ), plus the Salary he will draw ( for life ) ! So I guess the taxpayers of Oswego, the board of education ( wish the had business skills ) to see that the taxpayers are going to pay almost $ 1,000,000.00 per year , for the rest of his life , and his wife , has the same business deal !
                                                                                                                       January 16/18

Oak Hill Park...
…still the sidewalks are not cleared! Who is the alderperson in charge of that area ?, Or is Britt Hills more Important ? Oak Hill Park is a School Bus pick up and drop off ! And nice to see that Kells and mini me , are working for the next taxpayer rip off ! And I will bet that the Board of Education ( tax collectors ) are planning their next taxpayer take over !
                                                                                                                       January 16/18







Today's Quote January 15/2018

In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

Kells has the DPW workers so pissed off they won’t come in for the snow storms. That is why there was only one plow working Christmas and more recently they have only had three plows operating because they can’t get anyone to drive the others. Barlow don’t have a clue just like Trump he tells people what they want to hear. It’s all bullshit and lies.
                                                                                                                       January 15/18

New alarm among Republicans that Democrats could win big this year

                                                                                                                       January 15/18

Scotty picks and chooses the calls they take too. You were lucky you got someone to come.
                                                                                                                       January 15/18






Today's Quote January 13-14/2018

From birth to age 18 a girl needs good parents.

From 18 to 35 she needs good looks.

From 35 to 55 she needs a good personality.

From 55 on, she needs good cash.
Sophie Tucker

$60,000,000 Spending Plan for Oswego City School District proposed by OCSGD School Bosard
Realize this is long, but every tax payer in the OCSD should read this, and get out for the March 2018 vote, and vote down the delusional actions of an out of control School Board and the District Superintendent, Goewey. The below article was for the 2015-2016 budget, only two years ago advocating major cuts and eliminating most sports programs. Now they want to build a $27,000,000 sports complex at the high school.( see plan at the end of this posting) We have a student population that is going down each year and are still paying the average teacher over $65,000 per year along with fantastic benefits and retirements that are unbelievable. What happened; did the district win the Power Ball? No, they are just going to raise your taxes. I am sure that there are some upgrades and repairs that need to be made at the schools, but it is time to again look at eliminating a school, rather than spending $60,000,000 on this foolish plan. If the board was doing their job, these repairs would have been made each year in the budget, but the board used building repair money to boost teachers salaries that were already too high. (see attached article below). I can not imagine constructing an artificial turf football field with seating for 1,000 people, when we only get, at best 50-100 people at any of the football games. To add an additional 200 parking spots at the high school is ridiculous, let alone adding another tennis court when the existing five are never used.

Oswego City school budget cuts 51 jobs, some sports teams, including football
Updated Apr 8, 2016; Posted Apr 7, 2016
Oswego Buccaneers play the Fulton Red Raiders in this 2014 file photo. The Oswego City School District's proposed budget cuts football and other sports teams. (David Lassman | dlassman@syracuse.com, 2014)
By Sarah Moses
OSWEGO, N.Y. -- The Oswego City School District's proposed budget for the 2016-17 school year cuts 51 positions and eliminates all modified sports and cuts some junior varsity and varsity sports teams, including football.
The school district faces a $5 million budget gap, according to Oswego City schools Superintendent Dean Goewey. Goewey, who took office in November, said he warned the school board that this was going to be a difficult budget season.
"It's heartbreaking that we are in this position," Goewey said.
The budget gap is largely caused by a shrinking PILOT (payment in lieu of taxes) agreement with Exelon Corp., the owner of the Nine Mile Point Nuclear Station. The district will receive $3 million less from the agreement for the 2016-17 school year compared to the current school year. The district also faces rising health care costs, dwindling reserves and not enough state aid, Goewey said.
Goewey said the district used $3 million in reserves and raised taxes by nearly 10 percent to balance the current budget. For the 2016-17 budget, Goewey said he wanted to focus on reducing spending.
The proposed budget for the 2016-17 school year is $79,510,611, which is 4.2 percent less than the current budget, which is $82,847,354. The proposed budget caries a 2.5 percent tax increase, which would equal a $52.98 tax increase on a $100,000 home.
Here's a look at the proposed athletic cuts and costs:
· Varsity and Junior Varsity Football: $59,270
· Football cheerleaders: $20,253
· Freshman basketball: $8,491
· Girls Varsity Hockey: $25,620
· Varsity Wrestling: $24,034
· Girl's Junior Varsity Tennis: $5,960
· Indoor Track (Girls & Boys): $20,831
· All Modified Sports: $190,015
· Equipment: $10,000
The total savings from the athletic cuts is $364,474. The costs include coaching salaries, officials, transportation, equipment and other fees.
The proposed budget also includes the reduction of staff. About 50 positions will be eliminated. Although some positions will be eliminated with retirements, other eliminated positions will result in people losing their jobs, Goewey said.
The proposed position cuts would be about a 10 percent staff reduction for the district, which employed 472 people in the 2014-15 school year, according to the state.
Here's a look at the proposed staff cuts:
· 8 elementary teachers
· 3 elementary physical education teachers
· 1 elementary social worker
· 2 elementary instructional coaches
· 1 elementary speech therapist
· 1 middle school PLATO (language arts) teacher
· 1 middle school art teacher
· 1 middle school technology teacher
· 1 middle school health teacher
· 2 middle school teaching assistants
· 1 high school art teacher
· 2 high school English teachers
· 1 high school social studies teacher
· 1 high school GED teacher
· 1 high school science teacher
· 1 high school technology teacher
· 1 high school language teacher
· 4 custodians
· 7 library clerks
· 1 security
· 8 typists
· 1 central office clerical position
· 1 personnel reduction
The staff cuts will save the district $2.6 million. Goewey has agreed to take a $27,140 cut in his salary.
He said he also approached the district's four unions to seek a salary freeze or to make other concessions. Goewey said two unions, the administrators union and the non-instructional administrators union, agreed to salary freezes for the 2016-17 school year.
The district's largest union represents its teachers. The union and the school have not agreed on a salary freeze at this time. Roger Sprague, the president of the Oswego Classroom Teachers Association, said the union is willing to make concessions.
Oswego city teachers were the fifth highest paid teachers in Central New York out of 58 districts based on the median salary, according to state Education Department data for the 2014-15 school year. The median salary in the district was $64,375.
The Oswego City school board will meet again on April 19 and the public will vote on the budget on May 17.
If voters defeat the budget, the school board will be given three options. They can put a revised budget up for a second vote, put the same budget up for a second vote or move directly to a contingency budget. A contingency budget would require the district to go back to the 2015-16 tax levy, which would require the district to cut an additional $704,246 from the budget.
Here's a look at the proposed athletic cuts and costs:
· Varsity and Junior Varsity Football: $59,270
· Football cheerleaders: $20,253
· Freshman basketball: $8,491
· Girls Varsity Hockey: $25,620
· Varsity Wrestling: $24,034
· Girl's Junior Varsity Tennis: $5,960
· Indoor Track (Girls & Boys): $20,831
· All Modified Sports: $190,015
· Equipment: $10,000
The total savings from the athletic cuts is $364,474. The costs include coaching salaries, officials, transportation, equipment and other fees.
The proposed budget also includes the reduction of staff. About 50 positions will be eliminated. Although some positions will be eliminated with retirements, other eliminated positions will result in people losing their jobs, Goewey said.
The proposed position cuts would be about a 10 percent staff reduction for the district, which employed 472 people in the 2014-15 school year, according to the state.
Here's a look at the proposed staff cuts:
· 8 elementary teachers
· 3 elementary physical education teachers
· 1 elementary social worker
· 2 elementary instructional coaches
· 1 elementary speech therapist
· 1 middle school PLATO (language arts) teacher
· 1 middle school art teacher
· 1 middle school technology teacher
· 1 middle school health teacher
· 2 middle school teaching assistants
· 1 high school art teacher
· 2 high school English teachers
· 1 high school social studies teacher
· 1 high school GED teacher
· 1 high school science teacher
· 1 high school technology teacher
· 1 high school language teacher
· 4 custodians
· 7 library clerks
· 1 security
· 8 typists
· 1 central office clerical position
· 1 personnel reduction
The staff cuts will save the district $2.6 million. Goewey has agreed to take a $27,140 cut in his salary.
He said he also approached the district's four unions to seek a salary freeze or to make other concessions. Goewey said two unions, the administrators union and the non-instructional administrators union, agreed to salary freezes for the 2016-17 school year.
The district's largest union represents its teachers. The union and the school have not agreed on a salary freeze at this time. Roger Sprague, the president of the Oswego Classroom Teachers Association, said the union is willing to make concessions.
Oswego city teachers were the fifth highest paid teachers in Central New York out of 58 districts based on the median salary, according to state Education Department data for the 2014-15 school year. The median salary in the district was $64,375.
The Oswego City school board will meet again on April 19 and the public will vote on the budget on May 17.
If voters defeat the budget, the school board will be given three options. They can put a revised budget up for a second vote, put the same budget up for a second vote or move directly to a contingency budget. A contingency budget would require the district to go back to the 2015-16 tax levy, which would require the district to cut an additional $704,246 from the budget. "No one likes to see these reductions, but this is where we are at as a district," Goewey said.
                                                                                                                       January 13-14/18

To the mayor
Hey Mayor, Kells...your 24 hr shifts are not, have not worked. It's stupidity at its finest. Should the taxpayer be shoveling side streets just to get to the main street? I would think not, but that's exactly what I had to do. The streets, yea, blow your own horn Barlow, are treacherous. Not from the snow, but from the foot and a half deep holes that will destroy your car. Yup, bent a rim from these holes. Traffic cones and orange barrels on 104, that people are running into, the cops closing off side streets, because the snow is too deep for cars. Cars getting stuck on Bridge St, because you and your buddy Kells decided to fill trucks with salt not just sand. This city is in disarray. Toot your own horn Barlow. How much does Broadwell give you to make sure his businesses are plowed? How much money is in your safe? You keep taking, and the taxpayer gets f***ed! Late afternoon and the bridges sidewalks aren't cleared??? Saving money my ass. There is now not enough people in a shift to do the job, thus calling in people. Aside from the 20 friends, who support you, and got jobs and drawing more payroll, what will come out of your lying mouth? You have lied to the taxpayer too many times. Water and sewer rates are going up folks. As well, hired more firefighters to take a chunk of the taxpayer dollar. Again, is your safe getting full? Friends of Barlow my ass. Albany needs to follow the money! Why should we the taxpayer pay for all of your friends snow removal? Your mommy and daddy's driveway...and the list goes on. You want Gosek to stay on, which makes you as bad as he. Are you taking it up the ass? The taxpayer certainly is! Barlow, you need to go, your in it for the money, not the people who PAY your salary! But again, you don't need a salary when your receiving money from the ones you are in business with.
                                                                                                                       January 13-14/18

Barlow,Kells,all Dpw workers you all suck
                                                                                                                       January 13-14/18

Smart People
Are the City Aldermen the Best For the Taxpayers of Oswego, NY ?
Are the School Board Members Best For The Taxpayers and Students of Oswego in this declining oswego economy (lack of steady income jobs above min. wage , for starts ) and collecting social asst. is not income !

And a Water Park ( Broardwell ) is going to produce what in net revs.
cost to taxpayers, and will Mr. Kells, keep it clean, personally, or just sit in front of his computer, tracking the workers !

After all , a real leader would INSPECT what needs to be done in the field, ask and talk to the workers, making sure that they have safety green or orange, with of course ,and I will bet the Mr. Kells does not know the insurance and OSHA requirements !

And give him a 10 year Contract ? Would you give the Super of Schools, the Board of Education , The Mayor of Oswego , The head Person who claims to be in charge of the Oswego Library, the Aldermen, Port of Oswego, just to name a few, a TEN YEAR CONTRACT ?
                                                                                                                       January 13-14/18

Towing on Saturday
Have you ever called a tow company that would not come help? I have I called Myers towing this morning and the recommendation was try rock Salt or call someone else.
Thanks Myers the salt really helped my truck that was stuck backwards in a snow bank . Thank you Scotty's towing even though it took a little bit due to you guys being so busy you were great.
If you wonder why business fails for some people the answer is lack of gumption and a world full of self pity . I will thank you for your advice to call somebody else. It was priceless information. I will always call someone else from now on.


No explanation needed
                                                                                                                       January 13-14/18






Today's Quote January 12/2018

Men often oppose a thing merely because they have had no agency in planning it,

or because it may have been planned by those whom they dislike.
Alexander Hamilton

Kells council
No surprise there about Kells wanting more. Have to foil and check out the campaign contributions, that will tell the tale. Kells wants a ten year term so he can keep all his new employees sitting pretty in their over paying positions that they are not qualified for. Like his girlfriend the Foreman of god only knows what. Get's a truck and also gets to take it home. Just when did you get your GED? Did you score in the top 3 on your Civil Service test? Kells wants to keep his circle tight so he can continue helping himself to city property. Why is the Flexo building off limits to city workers but his maintenance man has been seen there? The Mayor will continue to toot his own horn to make himself and his buddy look good. Meanwhile, taxes and sewage fees will rise and good working people will be left out in the cold so friends of these two can be taken care of.
                                                                                                                       January 12/18

Kells To A Ten Year Contract ?
I would not have this person gather shopping carts at War-Mart !
                                                                                                                       January 12/18

Oak Hill Park Sidewalks
How come Oak Hill Park side walks not cleared ? Was not cleared last year !

So you would think that the new aldermen would be all over this ( Mr. Ron T ) 6 th ward ?

I will bet that Britt Hills will get the needed relief !
                                                                                                                       January 12/18

RE: 2018 Common Council
Now that is a smart bunch of puppets. They look like some people that Trump would pick for some backwood shady behind the lock door type of deals.
                                                                                                                       January 12/18







Today's Quote January 10-11/2018

There is no short cut to achievement.

Life requires thorough preparation - veneer isn't worth anything.

George Washington Carver


2018 Common Council
Well ladies and gentelman of Oswego this is the council that Napolian Tom Kells bought and paid for so he could get the city charter changed to grab a ten year term as dpw head. The last council threw out the residentcy requirement so he could except his boughten job now this council will change the charter and do as their told and give him a nice fat ten year contract. Every one of them hand picked and checked to make sure that they'll tote the party line. I know that theirs a couple of Dems on their but they'll cheerfully do what their told to do just like the Dem that didn't seek reelection.

Tell your councilperson that your aware of this and demand that they do not consider this change. Of coarse they'll lie and say that it hasn't been brought up but its coming.

                                                                                                                       January 10-11/18





Today's Quote January 1/2018

Be at war with your vices, at peace with your neighbors,

and let every new year find you a better man.
Benjamin Franklin

Bohrer A Marine??
If you read any of Bohrer own Heidi triangles writings. He insists he was a former marine.

                                                                                                                       January 1/18

Re: Death of Common Sense
Bohrer writes in his notes that were seized. Kiki, coke dealer. Kiki was a massive, larger than Bohrer drug dealer. Often running to none other than N.Y. city and back. His real names. Maximo Kiki Sanchez. Funny how he is arrested right after Heidi becomes a Ci and inbetween the time she vanishes. Highly dangerous, a criminal record longer than Oakes and Dodds lies. Its obvious Bohrer is linked to him, notes him in his Heidi Triangle book. But yet the Sheriff's play dumb on who he is. Maybe that's why Fulton PD brought him down in 93. So is this the man everyone seemed to fear? Including Heidi? Kiki is the only coke dealer listed in any notes, papers or documents anywhere. Its logical to lean towards YES it's quit possible. Seeing as the CI who did bring him down was also terrified of this man. Anyone hear of this fella before?

                                                                                                                       January 1/18

Funny Bohrer indeed has this man's name in his paper work. Funny the man's a coke dealer that word pops Up a lot in this.

Jail term
OSWEGO — Maximo "KikT
Sanchez, 39, of 149 E. Cayuga St.,
—Qswego. was sentenced Monday in
County Court on charges of thirddegree
criminal sale of a controlled
substance and third-degree criminal
possession of a controlled
Sanchez was sentenced by Judge
John Elliou to a maximum of nine
years, minimum of three years in
Elmira State Correctional Facility.
He was also assessed a $155
surcharge. , • <
Sanchez was originally indicted
on 22 drug-related charges. According
to court documents, Sanchez
possessed and sold .87 grams of
cocaine for $80 while at his residence.
He also sold 1.07 grams of
cocaine on March 13 at his residence,
according to court
On Jan. 15 Sanchez sold 2.60
cocaine on Jan. 20, according tocourt
records. On Jan. 23 he allegedly
possessed 4.52 grams of
cocaine. _^ —
                                                                                                                       January 1/18

Today's Quote December 27/2017

'Tis not enough to help the feeble up, but to support them after.
William Shakespeare

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Someone posted about NYS investigating the Thibodeau case.....NOT TRUE
                                                                                                                        December 27/17

Smithsonian report for evidence in Heidi's case

                                                                                                                        December 27/17

Yep, tourism is the answer over a 52 a week jobs !
                                                                                                                        December 27/17






Please post the report from the Smithsonian Department of Anthropology regarding the evidence for the Heidi Allen case.

Couple questions:

Did the FBI agent that testified for the defense, Christopher Allen, read this document out loud during Gary's trial? And what does "but there are no morphological details that suggest a human origin." mean?

Also, why didn't the Defense call in a cremation specialist or have any kind of expert in human body disintegration?

One simple question to the FBI agent, who gave a partial true answer, and there is the belief that Heidi (could have) was burned in an outside burn barrel/pit.

What did the inmate supposedly tell Gary...that teeth don't burn? Jurors, you believed the inmates testimony, so.....why weren't TEETH found or reported by the Smithsonian? **slapping forehead** That's right, the Thibodeau's sifted through the burnt material, removing only what was human bone but leaving the burnt bone material that was what they testified to...animal bones, specifically chicken (as testified). Just like they must have had plastic in the van when Heidi was taken to justify no DNA in Richard's van. Right Dodd....the "cleaning" of the van...that In Fact happened AFTER the April 9, 1994 complete forensic exam of the van. Dodd.........the jurors could make up theories with no evidence but they didn't have the higher thinking that because there was no evidence pointing to the DA's and Sheriff's theory being correct that, In Fact, it makes the theories INCORRECT?

HHmmmm, they must have had their man then even though nothing truthfully fits.? The timeline doesn't fit with Richards movements the morning of April 3, 1994. No DNA evidence fits with a violent struggle taking place in the van. Verifiable alibi witnesses don't fit with Richard and Gary being together on April 3, 1994-Gary's adult neighbors witnesses didn't even ID Richards van at Gary's on April 3, 1994. No teeth or any other positive human remains were on Gary's property, via negative indications from multiple cadaver dogs on Gary's property and the Smithsonian report. "everyone would agree that Heidi wouldn't leave the store unattended". Then why do some people believe the inmates when they testified that Gary and Richard took Heidi to near Gary's while she was working alone?

Come on jurors...if you had known about Dan Barney being listed as "probably suspect" or that Michael Bohrer had been interviewed by the FBI and OCSD was competent to get his criminal past in 1995, would that have tipped the scales for you to acquit because the DA did not prove anything "beyond a reasonable doubt".

Merry Christmas Gary and Richard and all your family. Praying for Justice and Peace and Repentance and Healing for All Involved.
                                                                                                                        December 24/17

“no morphological details” Basically that means there was nothing, ie. ash, particles, cells, DNA molecules, smell or spirit that was human in origin. The bit about burning the body in a stove was as reliable as the rest of

the snitches story.

Reply to 3 Amigos
I read back in 2014 that someone said that a woman ( worked as a law clerk I believe) caught two guys in lies at the store.

1. Deputy that got flagged down said that he had to go follow the van...but according to this story, NO ONE MENTIONED A VAN!!!

Is it true , I don't know, as I thought he stayed there and called it in and inspected the area etc.

Also Sue Rodems died of a heart attack....what caused it...unknown, unless you believe the BS in Fulton.
                                                                                                                        December 21/17



How Coincidental

Richard Thibodeau attorney, called the jail house snitches Agents. Said they were working for the dept. Funny one snitch McDonald arrives inside Mass Jail the same day as Richards arrest for Heidi and Garys May arrest for Mass Jail. How odd, May 25th, 1994. National missing kids day. How sick. Sick DA Office. Even sicker sheriff dept.

                                                                                                                        December 21/17



Huge Mistake by Sheriffs

Wednesday July 27, 1994. The Herald Journal released the snitches statements. This is the issue. How did the Sheriffs obtain on the 27th Baldasaro statement dated July 31, 1994. Sheriffs made a mistake. Baldasaro never signed until 4 days after the Herald aired his written statement? Huge set up Dodd? On July 23, 1994 Dodd calls the snitches a mannia from Heaven. Unless you have ESP, or can time travel in the future Dodd, on the 23nd, 27th, Baldasaro had not written any statement. Talk about a huge set up. Huge mistake by releasing Baldasaro statement 4 days early. Would leave anyone asking how the hell Dodd knew on the 22nd about Baldasaro statement when it wasn't yet signed. Heres the proof. Ill tell you how Dodd. You set Gary up. Did not on July 23 yet have Baldasaro as a witness. The more you compare dates the more Dodds story doesn't add up. Its obvious they set Gary up intentionally was in contact witn these snitches the entire time. On June 29, 94 they siezed Garys stove. How funny it is a month later. Dodds witnesses fell from the sky claiming Gart burned Heidi in a wood stove again Dodd did your ass time travel to know in a month God was gonna drop 2 witnesses on your lap that claim the same theory with the stove you have?? How funny you sieze the stove. Then a month later seem to have witnesses to back up your lies. Total set up. You sneaky sob.




                                                                                                                        December 21/17

Today's Quote December 20/2017

Money? How did I lose it? I never did lose it. I just never knew where it went.

Edith Piaf

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
The AG office must follow procedures and writing a letter ( if true) to inform Lisa about what is going to happen...law is slow moving.

I hope the person that posted.."I got a phone call from one of the guys towing a trailer that VanPatten called for the hit"....is telling the truth.

They will probably have a hotline you can call and not give your name. If you KNOW something and it's true please let them know. It's too late for them to do anything violent as it will open up more avenues.

Please step up and do the right thing.
                                                                                                                        December 20/17

3 Amigos...
Good question. Also, does anyone know which sheriff's deputy had his/her patrol car parked for years permanently just down the hill from the D&W for years in a private driveway on 104? I always thought this was very strange.
                                                                                                                        December 20/17

3 Amigos
When Heidi came up missing....
Curtis left the store to follow pursuit....correct?
(Maybe) he was leaving the scene with Heidi in the back seat. The van might had pulled in for business, seen "something" happening, and left. Curtis now leaves with Heidi.
Anyone ever check out the cops cars for DNA.
Didn't Curtis get a new car shortly after that?
More questions!
                                                                                                                        December 19/17

State Attorney General's Office

OSWEGO, N.Y. -- "The state Attorney General's Office has begun investigating whether all evidence in the 1994 abduction of Heidi Allen in Oswego County was turned over to lawyers for the man convicted of kidnapping her.

The AG's Conviction Review Bureau filed papers this week in the Oswego County Clerk's office revealing the state prosecutors' involvement for the first time.

Assistant Attorney General Gail Heatherly, chief of the review bureau, wrote a letter last month to Thidobeau's lawyers and to prosecutors saying her office was involved "in the hope that the discovery provided and the investigation performed in this 20-year-old case is as complete as is humanly possible."

The documents include a request to local law enforcement agencies for any reports related to the case, and the police agencies' responses."


Whoppie Sh!t They wrote a letter asking the most corrupt county in the state to play fair.

                                                                                                                        December 18/17

Doj, FBI, attorney General. When have you seen them ever in upstate NY help on any case other than Doyle's? They are wondering how to save the state millions in a law suit. Pretty sick they stand on the side lines. Do NOTHING but get involved in a case State Police could have handled on their own (Doyle). Garys case, they snub their noses to it. Both attorney general and FBI are a Waiste of tax payers money. Neither dept, has done shit. It does not matter what you've seen, heard or report, they've watched this case unfold, have done NOTHING to intervene. Lisa works for DOJ. Instead the FBI up there, fiddles with pathetic cases like Doyle, to do with a teen kid, not a homocide. Heidi is null n void to them. Along with Gary. Political powers do one thing. Cover the asses of other political powers. Attorney Generals a joke. And lied to the public. They NEVER investigated. It was a lie and a farce to look good in the public eye. FBI have had 23 years to also do their job. Only one who seems to know how to do their job is Lisa.
                                                                                                                        December 15-16/17

Gary Thibodeau.....The Death Of Common Sense
I have always wondered what Mr. Swenkowski was thinking when the verdict came back as GUILTY! He saw him...alone, watched him leave...alone and never saw a kidnapping or Gary while he was there. Now I wonder just what the hell the jury was thinking...if anything at all.

I have always wondered what Mr. Stinson is thinking about how some people may ask how did you NOT see anything? You stated you were there from approx. 7:38 to 7:55 and flagged down a cop. But you stated that you never saw anyone or any cars. I have always wondered.....WHY or HOW.

I have always wondered why Mr. Biven's testimony is all over the place. The time, description of the van, description of the kidnappers ( not at all fitting the two brothers physical apperance ), changing his mind on the van he saw in and out of court. And how could you not see that a girl struggling didn't need your help?

I always wondered why Oakes' MA story was proven false (in court) but nothing was ever done about it.

I always wondered hoe Dodd could have even taken them to court without ANY evidence or witness that puts them there.

I always wondered about the cash register time, money and testimony.

I always wondered why after Jen Westcott failed a poly about a taped phone call, then went back in and said she was told what happened to Heidi and mentioned a WHITE van at the house she said she never lived at and the OCSD did nothing. Also telling the cops.."after 20 years I still have to tell you there were 2 vans?

I always wondered how, why and when the OCSD decided to frame Gary T. Was it years later after they knew he was innocent and someone ( maybe a politician ) said to him we don't need a law suit ( just my opinion).

I always wondered why these were not means for more investigation: Jen Westcott stories, Deputy lying on the stand, evidence withheld,, Oakes telling Lisa P. that he didn't have very much confidence in INTEGRITY of the OCSD investigation and all the other things that makes people think...COVER UP!

I am still wondering if the FBI is coming to town, God knows they all gave enough lopsided info and failed to continue a still open case.

I wonder what the FBI, DOJ and the NYS Atty General's council is...well WONDERING!
                                                                                                                        December 15-16/17

Ding Dong. You’re wrong….Oaks
Steen was “likely falsely boasting”. Based on what FACTS? Did he pass a lie detector? What about 3 cadaver dog indications near an area similarly described by his “boasting”? What about Bohrer? Was he given a test, too? And it didn’t concern you that he knew and had so much information from around the time of the disappearance? He certainly didn’t get it from social media and I highly doubt the documents he DID have were available to the public even BEFORE Gary’s trial.
Here, Oaks, is a high five to start you on your way to Investigation 101.
                                                                                                                        December 13/17

Ozwego County
The cops – lawyers – doctors – politicians in Ozwego County have abused – raped - and killed more women in this county then anybody would ever imagine. Gary was lucky he only got jail.
                                                                                                                        December 12/17





3 Amigos
Years back. A man named Sirgibbs sat in the court room. Watching Garys case unfold. He posted some pretty intelligent posts. He tells you. There are 3 connections that OCSD didnt want you to link together. That 3 would go to the dirty cop cokers house. That 2 knew, 2 really KNEW, he writes.
Funny how Vanpatten, Curtis, Petrowski hang at Curtis house over the years. Dirty cop cokers house must be Curtis, the 2 who Knew, really KNEW was petrowski and Vanpatten. Can it be proven. Yes. It can be proven by eye witnesses.
Matter of fact. Curtis was petrowski mentor lol per say.
So you have the lead investigator stealing texts messages between 2 persons of interest. Makes complete sense now. Why this entire case has gone in the direction it has.
The officer whom dropped the cards, buddies to lead investigator now, also friends to same cop whom exposed Heidi and Curtis just happened to be driving by minutes after Heidi disappeared.
You 3 corrupt amigos belong in prison.
                                                                                                                       December 8/17

ocsd and da corruption
sue boullard knew everything that was going on with the drug dealing, extorsion, embezeling and sexual harassment in the district attorneys office and sheriff’s department.She wasn’t afraid to call them on it and she ended up in the river at the same spot where they dumped Carol wood. Heidi was on the inside working with that slime and she just vanishes. Several women got too close to that bunch and ended up dead unexpectedly. A lot of the dirty money was being laundered through columbia savings and loan and fulton savings and probably still is.
                                                                                                                       December 8/17

Special Deputies
Beside the drug trade ands rasping women motorists it is a wonder they found any time to protect and serve.You know that is why the Sheriff and the DA are so dead set against a new trial for Gary. They don’t want the truth and the OCSDs involvement in Heidis disappearance to come out in the light of day. Are you out of your ever lovin? No but you sure as hell are Todd.
                                                                                                                       December 7/17

The Oswego/Co.rt 1 Halloween wagon
Hey Kells,
Did anyone else notice that the little Halloween hayride wagon now sits at the east end of the Dpw fenced in area. That seems to me like he should be reprimanded for that stunt.
The problem is that when little billy has his dough wagon out there for the festivities this makes him an accomplice. I cannot believe this blatant b.s. Is still allowed after all the bullshit this city has gone through.
I drive by Kells house everyday. If I see him plowing his driveway I will stop and introduce myself to him. Have some guts folks. This is our money these people are spending. Hold these people accountable and make them pay with losing their jobs.
Let's get moving on taking control of a city that has never had accountability. We do have outside resources that can help. Call the A.G's office , call the congress person, call the Nys comptroller and see who to talk to due to misuse of municipal money.

Signed, I'm watching

                                                                                                                       December 7/17

Re: sleezy lawyers
The same ones always seemed to be there, the Hawthornes, Eby, Cieszeski and Todd. Not one real lawyer in the bunch.
                                                                                                                       December 7/17

Sexual Blackmail In Oswego County
In the 90s RT 57 South of Fulton was prime hunting for the Fulton Cops and the County Sheriffs.
Women getting out of work at Miller and Owens were prime targets of these sexual predators. Some of them recorded the harassment by officers and deputies and confronted District Attorney James Grose. Grose smashed the recorder in front of them and threatened them should they ever bring up that subject again.
It didn’t end there. Women who didn’t put out were given tickets for loud mufflers, tail lights out or doing 37 MPH in a 35 MPH zone. Then there was a host of sleezy lawyers waiting to represent them for you guessed it sex.
                                                                                                                       December 6/17

Reply Moe Todd
Laugh away. Every one I know is laughing at them. The public knows the truth, no matter how much they lie. Facts are facts. No matter the lies. It can never change that fact.
                                                                                                                       December 6/17

I know for a fact. One deputy followed the bartender from Williamstown home one night after she closed up the bar. Yes the choice was sex or dwi. She is very vocal about this incident. Its called sexual harrassement, entrapment, the list goes on. It started with oral sex on the road. He then followed her back to her place. Mean while he was on duty and we tax payers are paying for this nasty shit. Ill get his name but to the officer whom did this. Her intials are TM, and Im certain you are well aware of who you are...Oakes will deny...deny...deny..everyones a liar but OCSD, DA office. Instead of him seeing hes surrounded by pigs, literally. He thinks hes surrounded by heros. He couldn't be any dumber.
                                                                                                                       December 6/17

Special Deputies
One of the biggest jokes in Oz was the daughter Jack Obey fathered in lieu of a speeding ticket. Its not just the nineties. that sh!t goes on every day in this county by every law enforcement agency
                                                                                                                       December 6/17



Re: Gosek Recording
You people on here are a joke. You think those dumb Polacks that elected thos to Goseks care about there sex crimes. If the old man ran for mayor again he would get elected. Oswego is just as f**ked up as they are. The kid is a teacher. What a perfect person to be involved with children.
                                                                                                                       December 5/17

Re: Moe Todds Special Deputies
Hope the women who were taken advantage of by these disgusting men had the where-with-all to get STD tested after their encounter. Wonder if their wife/girlfriend had any idea just how sickening their loved one was or is De Nile the River in Egypt?
CDC, was there an epidemic of oral Herpes in Oswego during the time period of these allegations?
“Smear campaign by the Defense”. LOL, Mr. Oakes. Appears your buddies smeared……before any of the outside world even knew!! ** Dang, I just thought they were incompetent at their jobs. Must reconsider in light of the new accusation.** But yet these are some of the a&$holes that are trusted by some in the community?!?! I wonder though, how adept are some people at being two-faced?
I apologize. I know I shouldn’t laugh at the…..expense of others.
                                                                                                                       December 5/17

Special Deputies And Special Judges.
My neighbor had her kids taken by DSS. Two weeks later she got them back. Her words “ all I had to do was blow the family court judge”.
                                                                                                                       December 5/17

The judges and attorneys have been preying on the women and young boys of this county for half a century. It is time for them to speak out.
                                                                                                                       December 5/17







Today's Quote December 4/2017

She plucked from my lapel the invisible strand of lint (the universal act of woman to proclaim ownership.
O. Henry

Moe Todds Special Deputies
In the early Nineties Under Sheriff Moe Todd gave dash mount strobe lights to ADA Don Dodd and ADA Don Todd so they could make citizens arrests. How it worked was they would follow women home from local bars and pull them over for suspicion of drunk driving. Some got a stiff warning others had to service the stiff end of the law.

                                                                                                                       December 4/17
Just when you think you have heard it all.

State Police Arrest Reports 07/06/2008

Louis E. Sorendo, 51, of 21 Ellen St., Oswego
On 07/06/08, Louis E. Sorendo, age 51, of 21 Ellen St., Oswego, NY, was arrested by the New York State Police ââ‚Âââ‚Å“ Syracuse for Unlawful Possession of Marijuana after being stopped for a seat belt violation at the Verona interchange (exit # 33) of the Thruway.
Mr. Sorendo was released to appear in the Town of Verona court.
                                                                                                                       December 4/17


Shower Room Banter

Federal inmate #1: Hey Leroy, remember that child molester Gosek that came through here back in 2006? He was some of the best lovin I had on the inside but he was always crying so I had to put a bag over his head.

Federal inmate 2: Yeah Bubba, he was ok but I would rather do his son. I’d like to throw a flag over his little a$$ and do him for god and country.

Hinder Grinder
                                                                                                                    December 2/17

Bobby Baldasaro
Has anyone besides Dodd seen the notes about Bobby?

HHmmm. A report from Florida probation says they recommend that his probation be revoked and "2 years community control for closer supervision". Notes show that a governors warrant was issued for him. They were going to hold him up in MA so he can testify in NY "then we can justify putting him back on probation". What? He got probation for testifying in NY.

Damn, and I thought it was testified to that neither inmate received any benefit for testifying.?!

It's all in black and white...Bobby did.


                                                                                                                    November 27/17


Grab your ankles Oswego....
If everyone thinks they don't have any X-mas $$$ leftover now once paying that f'n disastrous water/sewer bill then hang on tight...it's going up to $315/qtr. come February so you really won't have any f'n $$$ remaining to do anything with...including eating! Oh, and BTW...it wasn't a screwdriver that killed the old man on Mitchell St. many years ago....it was a f'n icepick & the local police have made it known! HMMM!!!
                                                                                                                    November 27/17

Bivens and criminal witnesses
LOL...."disinterested witnesses" we found credible? Like who?

Bivens was obviously lying about something....many different police statements, pleading the 5th during trial about the false insurance claim form.

Ms. Montgomery...

Mr. Neville Jr....

The Cowen's knowing Bivens....

The store owner, "family friend", finding the CI card but testifying to not "warning" Heidi's family.....

That Sturtz woman "we kept it a secret" that Heidi was IN FACT a CI....

Please post the documents about Baldasaro getting a reduced sentence on recommendation for his NY testimony.

Deputy Wheeler lying under oath. Dodd refusing to give "the entire" OCSD case file as per repeated arguments against turning over documents and "finding" Heidi case evidence "in the garage" in the 11th hour.

BUT....this was a good arrest, good conviction. LMAO Todd, Dodd, Oakes.....you guys can't be that ignorant!?? You guys are sick mother___ that have turned a missing young woman from your community into a trivial, cya occurrence.

Sad that Heidi's own loving sister can't comprehend what is written in black and white. I would not rest, even after all these years, if Heidi was my sister, daughter, close cousin, close friend. Pray that more people speak the truth for Justice for Heidi and Gary....Shame on All You Liars/Deceivers.

Heidi was/is important even if one has given up hope for finding the Truth!!

Have you seen Bivens' Facebook page? Some kind of Christian to violate one of God's Laws...."Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor". Praise God that those who violate HIS laws will be properly Judged and Punished. Eternity is a long time, if you're a believer.
                                                                                                                    November 27/17

Re: IP address
What are they worried about unless what is posted can be proven?

Some accusations are false...but others are true.

I am willing to bet that most of what is posted about the Heidi Allen case is a FACT that can be proven from written documentation.

NO INTEGRITY and NO MORALS. Ya'll should resign. Along with the other crooked Oswego government officials.

Keep Speaking and vote the vermin out!! Research your candidates. Talk to the candidates and other constituents. Thank you to ALL who don't give up! "WE the People" are stronger than them.
                                                                                                                    November 27/17

Threats and intimidation are how these people stay in control and out of jail. When they become too much of a liability they get thrown under the buss like Dumbsmor did to Gosek.

Water Bills 2018
They are raising the water bills from $275 to $315. Are you f<{king me. Barlow sure has BS everyone in this dump city. Giving money to all his friends and stealing money from everyone else. How does he expect the seniors on fixed incomes to pay for this ..This city government has gone right in the toilet Barlow if you read this. You and your government are idiots ..
                                                                                                                    November 27/17







Today's Quote November 26/2017

Glory, built on selfish principles, is shame and guilt.
William Cowper

This Bivens???
This Bivens? Are you talking this Bivens. Are you identifying the DA main witness as a past prime suspect in the odd death of an old man? If so whats this old mans name? Easy way to find that out. Unless of course the Sheriffs disposed of his past crimes, I wouldnt doubt in exchange for his testimony?? One could make that assumption. If so, Dodds more Devil than the real devil. Sick....this entire case the more you stop and smell the roses, you notice those gorgeous roses smell like shit. The stench is coming from OCSD and the DA Office.
How would one confirm all those things?? Anyone have any proof of the Bivens claims posted on here?
                                                                                                                    November 26/17

Is the Bivens referenced in the Heidi Allen story the same Bivens that drove taxi for Horan's in the 80s? If so he has quite a shady reputation to start with. He was arrested for false imprisonment of a teenage girl in the back seat of his cab, he refused to let her out until she agreed to have sex with him! He also robbed an old lady on rt 48,Mrs Cahill on 3 seperate occasions and was a suspect in the suspicious death of an old man on Mitchell St who was found dead at the bottom of his stairs with a screwdriver through his skull. The same police investigating the Heidi Allen case determined that death to be accidental. lol
                                                                                                                    November 25/17




Reply to Bivens
I've read on Bivens also before but its the first time I've ever really sat down and compared his stories and his multitude of changed statements, his confusing descriptions and changes he added to the van, he even changed the vans location at the store, from between the pumps to the outside of the pumps. Bivens, is certified, in my opinion, up to no good. I never knew he gave the make and model of the vehicle. Not every ones from the Oswego area. So obtaining transcripts arent easy for outsiders. Ty for sharing that. To me Bivens pleading the 5th, tells me a lot. Seems a pretty good ammount of Oakes side uses the 5th like it means nothing. To me the 5th typically, tells anyone, besides numb nuts Oakes. They've got something to hide. You are only to use that line if it will incriminate yourself. By using the 5th, to me, they did just that. Bivens is a con, simple as that.
                                                                                                                    November 23/17






Okay, this will clear up all the confusion Mr. Bivens created with his lies.

Say hello to Mr. Christopher Bivens, the DA eye witness. This photo tell anyone anything?

                                                                                                                    November 22/17


I had a C 10 pickup back in the 70s and always thought the vans were C 10 too. I just never cared or looked that close to see that the "C" was actually a "G". Now reading his statement I see a lot more than has been talked about before. H said he recognized the van from the rust over the wheels and the bumper that hung down and a trailer hitch. He claimed he didnt stop because he didnt want to get involved.


Driving down a major highway in slush and snow he sees a woman struggling with a man and he still is observant enough to note rust, a crooked bumper and a trailer hitch yet the description of the man did not fit either of the Thibodeau brothers and the pictures of the van below show very little rust over the wheels.


A more likely story would be he observed a woman and a man in what he thought might be a domestic dispute and just kept going. Later he learned of the missing store clerk and began to feel bad about not stopping so he called the OCSD. Even though his original description of the van did not fit the Thibodeaus or there van the sherrifs show him a picture of Richards van an he then decided that was the one.

                                                                                                                    November 22/17

Bivens' Testimony C-10 Van
The fact it may have been a light blue C-10 van was given in Bivens' testimony. It's not that hard to find, guys.

                                                                                                                       November 21/17

Richard's van
Here's how these g, c things work for Chevy. There is no such thing as a c10 van. Ever. C10 is a pickup truck. GM had letter names for their body styles.
C - 2 wheel drive pickup
K - 4 wheel drive
G - van
The 10 means 1/2 ton, 20 3/4 ton, 30 1 ton. Bohrer drove a 1976, G20 3/4 ton.
                                                                                                                       November 21/17

C10 van huh...
How the hell would you know the van they are looking for is a c10 Chevy van? Maybe you need a knock on your door. No where does it say ever Bohrer had a Chevy c10. But your dead on. That's a fact you shouldn't and wouldn't know. Its not mentioned or documented anywhere.

                                                                                                                       November 19/20/17

C10 huh...
Richard's vans a 1976, which would make it a G10, G20, G30 series. Here are the 1976 specs from Chevy for the 1976 year. So no the c10 series was never, not once listed anywhere in any one of the witnesses statements, court documents, records. Not one person ever described the van as a white or blue c10-CHEVY. Bivens stated ,"I THINK it was a Chevy, van. FROM 1979-1986." The MAKE AND MODEL is not listed anywhere, as a definite . Not even in Bivens statements. So the c10 Is not a fact and isn't relevant. Because a 1976, is a G SERIES MODEL. All that's ever said is they witnessed a white, off white or blue van. Where you came up with a c10 is beyond me.


                                                                                                                    November 19/20/17


Murtaugh comments:
As a matter of fact I do on my way to new haven now had a nice road trip to fernwood too wink emoticon
Posted on Judge to prosecutor in Heidi Allen case: You missed chance to respond to wrongful conviction claim
9/18/2014 9:42 AM

Omg please no mistake we (3 of us) picked up two vans at gt house ... Me roger & a 3rd person picked up a dift van in fern wood I can't tell you where it was but I'm sure I can drive right to there like I did last week going to Gary's house ( that I had only been to twice before in the 90's
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:25 PM

It was a red house is all we can remember
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:17 PM

I'm sorry I don't I'd just be guessing but one of my helpers just asked me if I remember going to fern wood to get a white van at 1st didn't remember but after talking a bit I do now
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:08 PM

No in fern wood ( I think that's how you spell it
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:05 PM

Omg I don't know I just remember him coming to me wanting me to pick one up for him .. Never gave it much thought till tonight talking it over with my staff
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 10:55 PM

You all ready for this one ????? I do remember going with RB to fern wood to pick up a white van that he had to junk back around same time of the ha deal
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 10:52 PM

Tina Bennett Fighting For Fathers Rights
How much time do you think she will spend on your case when she devotes half of her TV commercial to taking shots at her ex husband and his family.
                                                                                                                    November 19/20/17


Richard murtaugh @rmroutlaw · Jan 14

#heidiallen after 20 plus years this is the best they can come up with? & it all started from towing a van that was never at Gary's .. Joke

                                                                                                                    November 19/20/17

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Swenkowski, Richard, Jenn Westcott, Bivens, Stinson, OCSD, DAs...and of course Gary:

Why didn't Swenkowski's testimony about seeing RT leave the store alone carry any weight?
RT walked out and HA was in the store when he left
Stinson walked in and NO HEIDI????? So what happened after Senkowski and RT left? What exact time was Bivens there? His story is confusing...why? Simple question and a simple answer...cover up?
Bivens saw the kidnapping, RT, Swenkowski, Stinson were there a little before it happened, did anyone see another person after they left?
Caught in so many lies in still an open case, why wasn't her stories followed up?
I simply don't believe Jenn Westcott......Oakes. Why not? You offered her immunity, must have believed it then,
and after she failed a poly and then said in a second meeting that she was told about what happened to HA, said "they brought her in a WHITE VAN"...you're right Mr. Oakes you shouldn't believe her. But part of LE is to pick apart lies and to follow up if you think it may lead somewhere. You guys did nothing of the sort. WHY NOT???

Everyone but you guys think it was a good start.
What PROOF did you have that GT was NOT home at the time of the crime. Did you check for foot prints in the snow at his house? Anyone see him at the store...NOPE. But you Dodd convinced a jury that he was there even if the description didn't fit the brothers.

Did you use a line up before the case? Never heard that you did. Is that standard police work in an investigation or is it a way to cover up and convict an innocent man? No line up ...hmmmm.

Why was your story about RT going to MA with HA in the trunk, destroyed in court by two deputies? Is that a lie or just another run around the outside and hope for the best. And you searched the car and found nothing.
Were Stinson, Bivens and Swenkowski given polygraphs?

If it happened T 7:42 am and Bivens saw it then Swenkowski, Stinson should have seen it too because RT left and Swenkowski said he waited for him to back out as he packed his cigarettes in his car.

With all these things pointing to innocent of the brothers, why didn't you look at other people? Did you have a hunch at who they may be? Did you ask neighbors of MB, Steen and Roger if they saw them leave early in the morning? Roger's wife said he did. There's a start and you again failed in your investigation....intentionally?

Lies for deputies on the stand, Jenn W. telling you what you needed to hear, witnesses did not id RT's van, just the opposite, they said (as your star witness Bivens said at first) that it wasn't RT's van.

Have you read any of the comments in the paper or on the web as we have uncovered a lot of loose ends in this case?

Do you guys sleep well at night, when the demons come into your mind. Wouldn't you like to have it stop? What an awful feeling, night after night and now you have the FBI to worry about and they are very serious people.

First one to give states evidence walks and all others will be put in prison!

                                                                                                                    November 19/20/17

Van Picture
The van in the picture is a Ford Econoline not a Chevy C-10. Don’t know if that C-10 description is relevant or not; just pointing out a fact
                                                                                                                            November 18/17

Fernwood Feed Mill Van
The picture is a little fuzzy, but the Fernwood Feed Mill van looks to be a darker blue than the van at Manwaring and Route 3. Also, the rear side windows are different (the lighter blue van has circular windows). It would be worth a shot for John O'Brien (who switched careers and is now an investigator with Peebles) to look into the history of this van. We all know Richard's van should have been returned to him a long time ago.

                                                                                                                            November 18/17

Sounds like Greg Aka the DA, that there's some big boys knocking on doors. It's not your buddies the Sheriffs. Sounds like your screwed. Did you truly think your Sheriffs had full jurisdiction. Not when it comes to corrupt politicians. It's not the Sheriffs making their rounds. It's officers with integrity.
                                                                                                                            November 18/17


D&W store front
How in the heck could Richard have fit his van between the pump and Mr. Swenzkowki’s car to park in front of him if Mr. Swenzkowski arrived first? OR was Richard IN FACT telling the truth about parking BEHIND Mr. Swenzkowski per his statements?!! Hmmm, believe a witness who was not given a lie detector test, that we know of, or believe someone who WE KNOW passed a test?!
                                                                                                                            November 17/17


Lisa P. Email

                                                                                                                            November 17/17

People of OZ
(315) 701-0080 Lisa Peebles. Feel free to call her office.

                                                                                                                            November 17/17

Gary the Innocent Video utube


Please share this, it's Gary's song in a video.
Law, won't you let that free man go... Twenty years of himself on a sheriff's shelf, He's been murdered one day at a time. The key that she's held, still she lives with herself -- The truth lies behind those cold blue eyes. The call she made shook up decades Of giving up on hope and life A murderer stands next to me, next to you As we wait in the grocery line. Law, won't you let that free man go. Law, won't you let that free man go. Way down in Oswego County Somebody done collected his bounty. Law, won't you let that free man go. His case was sealed from an inside deal He was sleeping away in his cell. They buried his sisters, mother, and wife, Insisting a personal hell. Will the truth be told from the ones who know Or the ones who have brushed it away. Pry back the boards and show us all toward The free man walking away.Law, won't you let that free man go. Law, won't you let that free man go. Free of guilt but still in prison, Hope of truth this mornin' risen. Law, won't you let that free man go. Law, won't you let that free man go. Law, won't you let that free man go. Free that man that's been forsaken Give him back the life we've taken. Law, won't you let that free man go.
                                                                                                                            November 17/17

No one knows what to believe. The FBI has had 4 years to help this case. To bring charges against them. Instead they are focused on Doyle. If Gary dies. I'm sure the suspects are praying to God he does. They will walk Scott free. Totally disgusting. Oakes claims to be a man of God, Greg will be one of the ones he says Go away. I do not know you. He is nothing more than a criminal for obstructing justice.
                                                                                                                            November 17/17

Jennifer Wescott was given immunity from prosecution for lying on her police statements....Would all deals be off if the Feds charge her with perjury for lying under oath, in a Court of Law?
                                                                                                                            November 17/17

Keystone Pipeline Leaks 5,000 Barrels Of Oil In South Dakota, TransCanada Says

                                                                                                                            November 17/17


Old Chevy C-10 Light blue van with dark blue doors on Route 3
I didn't get a picture driving by, but it is on Google Maps - taken Oct. 2013
There's a light blue Chevy C-10 van on State Route 3 in between Pulaski and Mexico - with dark blue doors - parked on a side lawn of a property in between Pulaski and Mexico on State Route 3 van before them. Not too many of them that look similar to RT's around, especially in Oswego County. . You can easily see it from the road. It's on the left-hand side if you're heading west (toward Mexico). It looks to be around the same year as RT's, but more closely matches the description of some witnesses. It would be interesting to see who the property owner is or who owned the before them. Not too many of them that look similar to RT's around, especially in Oswego County.
I didn't get a picture driving by, but it is on Google Maps - taken Oct. 2013

                                                                                                                            November 16/17

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
To re to me.....

If someone didn't call in for a sandwich then they got it just before HA was taken. HAD to be after 7:42 am after Richard was seen leaving ALONE!!! ( last customer but not the last one to see her alive)

Can anyone find a statement from anyone, including the OCSD that doesn't seem suspicious or looks like a lie?
Does anyone really think the FBI believes any of this child like lies and a Person there at the time of crime but didn't see anything. If Swenkowski was there and saw Richard, then the 7:42 am time is correct...has to be.

Did the person who said he got a call that said "VanPatten ordered the hit" ever tell that to anyone on this case?

VanPatten said there was going to be a big bust and put a "girl" to be used into it. Were there any other female CIs at this time? Why would a cop shoot his mouth off about a bust..THAT NEVER HAPPENED!!!!!?????

Heidi was a CI and Oakes and any other LE, DA, lawyer that says she wasn't is a liar. But why lie? To cover up a unlawful arrest, sale of coke by "others", help those that took her get away with it? The only reason you got away with HA NOT being a CI is because Judge King made sure of it. Signed card, code name, picture, other cops testifying to it...but no she wasn't a CI.

I don't know how you got away with it but I will tell you that if anyone ever did that to me, they better move far away before I get out...this is disgusting and it doesn't even seem to bother you at all. But maybe the FBI can get states evidence if they investigate this joke of an investigation. DOES IT BOTHER YOU GUYS THAT A VERY IMPORTANT MAN WAS IN THE 2014 COURT ROOM AND WHAT HE SAID? Start Sweating.
                                                                                                                            November 16/17

Lisa Peebles
Would anyone know her direct email or if she has appointments available where Oz people can go to speak to her?
                                                                                                                            November 16/17

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
To re to me.....

If someone didn't call in for a sandwich then they got it just before HA was taken. HAD to be after 7:42 am after Richard was seen leaving ALONE!!! ( last customer but not the last one to see her alive)

Can anyone find a statement from anyone, including the OCSD that doesn't seem suspicious or looks like a lie?
Does anyone really think the FBI believes any of this child like lies and a Person there at the time of crime but didn't see anything. If Swenkowski was there and saw Richard, then the 7:42 am time is correct...has to be.

Did the person who said he got a call that said "VanPatten ordered the hit" ever tell that to anyone on this case?

VanPatten said there was going to be a big bust and put a "girl" to be used into it. Were there any other female CIs at this time? Why would a cop shoot his mouth off about a bust..THAT NEVER HAPPENED!!!!!?????

Heidi was a CI and Oakes and any other LE, DA, lawyer that says she wasn't is a liar. But why lie? To cover up a unlawful arrest, sale of coke by "others", help those that took her get away with it? The only reason you got away with HA NOT being a CI is because Judge King made sure of it. Signed card, code name, picture, other cops testifying to it...but no she wasn't a CI.

I don't know how you got away with it but I will tell you that if anyone ever did that to me, they better move far away before I get out...this is disgusting and it doesn't even seem to bother you at all. But maybe the FBI can get states evidence if they investigate this joke of an investigation. DOES IT BOTHER YOU GUYS THAT A VERY IMPORTANT MAN WAS IN THE 2014 COURT ROOM AND WHAT HE SAID? Start Sweating.
                                                                                                                            November 16/17







Today's Quote November 15/2017

Sometime in the future - 25, 50, 75 years hence -

what will the situation be like then? By that time the Chinese will have the capability of delivery too.
Curtis LeMay

Of Course!!
Yes it does make the Thibodeaus innocent.
Leo Richardson and his brother were once arrested for holding a girl against her will. Leo resigned from his position, his brother was found not guilty. SHERIFF TODD said when asked about why Leos brother still had his job at the Oswego Jail, that "he was found NOT GUILTY by a jury of his peers. There fore by law he is innocent." And would be keeping his position. I guess that belief to Todd is upheld if AND ONLY IF your a political or county employee. Because last I knew. Richard was found not guilty. Yet, Todd, still holds on to, NOT- things they missed but things they covered up. Because and only because they all broke the law to gain this conviction. Now it's protect their own asses, from criminal racketeering and RICO charges. So the more they lie, the better off they think they are. Problem is, back then, social media was not as popular and easy to access as it is now. Now a days being able to have easy access and to see all of the information. It's easy to see, that Richard and Gary were both railroaded, intentionally. Goes back to what Bohrer said,"When you have more questioms than you do answers your problems from within."
Sheriffs give the Thibodeau man back his van. It is not evidence, when it has been cleared by FBI, NOT ONCE, TWICE. The van doesn't even match the tire tracks seen in this photo. Notice the officer bent over. Compare the location of the van to the one given on Bivens map. Not the same location. Their own evidence doesn't match the van you stole from Richard. Cough it up theifs.
Must be Sheriffs don't listen to anyone. Even Wescott told you. "I can't believe after 20 years I have to tell you there is another van." Oz Sheriff dept, simply is sending tax payers on a wild lying goose chase. They have for over 23 years.

                                                                                                                            November 15/17

Re: Gary Thibodeau.....Death of Common Sense
I don’t necessarily think the person the sandwich was made for “called” the order in. Anyhow, it is a FACT that Mrs. Duell AND Susan Allen testified that Heidi was scheduled to work on April 3, 1994. Note, also, that Mrs. Duell testified that the employee schedule was located on the bulletin board behind the counter? Certainly was not a “last minute filling-in” for the other clerk as some people make it sound. Look at the inside pictures of the D&W and one can clearly see that all a customer had to do was look and see the schedule for themselves. (Bohrer proclaims to be a regular but, conveniently, Mrs. Duell testified at the Hearing that she didn’t recognize him. NOO Duh when one sees the person 20+ years later and not shown a picture from the correct time period. Right, Pietroski?

Interesting enough, Mrs. Granger says in her statement that Mr. Stinson told her that he knew the clerk was Heidi. Mrs. Granger questioned “How did he know it was Heidi” if he didn’t see who the clerk was. Also, Mr. Stinson told her, via her statement, that he went outside to look for the clerk but Mrs. Granger didn’t see footprints around the building. Both of Mrs. Granger’s statements (April 3, 1994 and July 14, 1994) are available at the Oswego County Clerk’s Office or they can be posted here.

Also ask oneself this, if Heidi was kidnapped after making the sandwich 1-Where is the register transaction for the sandwich? 2-Brett should have been able to identify the customer that bought it from photos the police should have taken because “every customer was a potential suspect” or from the customer, themself? 3-Wouldn’t Heidi have put the meat back ASAP after the ham sandwich was made? 4-Bohrer says in his notes that Heidi made his sandwiches good….what kind? Did LE ever think of asking him that? Probably not. 5-What time did Brett REALLY leave the store?

Dodd, I have a main question for you….How can you effectively, unbiasedly, truthfully Judge another prosecutor or defender knowing the dastardly, underhanded, unethical games you played in your ADA/DA tenure? You, sir (and I don’t mean respectfully), should be number one behind bars. Interesting on some of your cross of Defense witnesses and the deputies, it sounded like you were on the defense….we know there are tire marks (that don’t match Richard’s van) but do you know when they were made….do you know the condition of the van on blah day or blah day….sometimes family, friends and loved ones don’t know someone like they think….Where are YOUR FACTS and PROOF that Gary was doing something other than what he and his alibi witness testified to? Mrs. Rain is not seeking another term…may behoove Oakes to follow suite. Get someone with integrity and ethics to prosecute on behalf of “The People”!!
                                                                                                                            November 15/17

J-Oakes & Sheriffs soon to look like further fools. Lie detector tests and results in the works for Lisa witnesses. When they pass, it'll infuriate the majority. Good luck Oakes. You will need it. New show coming this ones moving fast to save Gary. When results hit. Hope Oakes goes n buries his head in the sand. He deserves, another hard slap.
                                                                                                                            November 15/17


Time stood still for Heidi Allen
From the article, "Time Stands Still for Heidi": Later, while detectives combed the convenience store and surrounding fields,DUELL WOULD NOTICE THAT THE CLOCK WAS STILL ONE HOUR BEHIND. TIME HAD STOPPED FOR HEIDI.

From the article, " Emotional Testimony Offered" : The cash register detail tape was marked as evidence; Duell made not on a copy of it describing what the codes mean and what each transaction had entailed. She and Curtis had also checked the accuracy of the cash register's clock which HEIDI HAD JUST SET THAT MORNING TO DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME.

                                                                                                                            November 15/17



Mrs. Duell testified about the register tape, items purchased and time...??
It strikes me as odd that "The time had to be entered into the memory of the cash register. (Tr. 1488)."

Could it be possible that the register tape was...manipulated when the deputy went back on August 11, 1994 to get the register tape from April 2, 1994? Mrs. Duell's OCSD file was tampered with on August 12, 1994.



Sorry people….those who don’t believe Richard Thibodeau even though he passed a lie detector test given by the Oswego County Sheriff’s. **No disrespect, you really think he could fool a lie detector test? He was the cooperative one…agreeing to the search of his van and giving DNA samples, etc I’d say he was one heck of a confident person that they wouldn’t find anything….because….he didn’t kidnap Heidi, he didn’t help to kidnap Heidi!!**

It Is a fact that he told law enforcement twice, on April 3, 1994 and April 9, 1994 that he paid with 4 $1 bills. In my math book, the cash register should have said one dollar less had Richard actually made that transaction at that time.

BS-“good arrest, good conviction”. Dodd’s theory is they acted together. Did you even read Richard’s statement, Todd? Probably not with your “limited involvement” in the investigation. The burning and burying on Gary’s property didn’t work out for you. The rolled item taken into the woods didn’t work out for you.
                                                                                                                            November 14/17

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Re: Another Unusual Reply

I posted that on Syracuse.com a while back and thought about MB and maybe he called to order a sandwhich
to see who was there. Who orders a sandwich at 6am? Did Bret hear the phone ring? Was the sandwich for herself? They missed a lot didn't they.

Another thing that bothered me was Stinson said Heidi was setting the cash register to the wall clock and it was distorted. I've never been in there in 1994 so I didn't know if there was a clock on the wall. But I did see a clock over the counter but she couldn't see it from the cash register...so I was wondering about that also with the other 22k other things in this case.

Funny how many "leads" we the readers have found. Spacecube on Syr.com is a great source, she/he has read the trial transcript and really knows a lot.

Also to the person that posted about Richard taking HA back to the store and the snitches said she wasn't there, wouldn't that make them innocent? But they lied because Swenkowski and Richard were there at the same time and both saw her...BUT STINSON DIDN"T???? Still bothers the hell out of me but I am not accusing him of any crime...just can't get past it.

You have info please post and keep it private if you are scared, or send it to Lisa P. Please, it's been to far gone with this case and the "FACTS".

We must hope for an FBI investigation and I think there may be one as that GUY in court in 2014...who was he, why was he there and what do they know or suspect. Hope there is an H-BOMB coming to Oswego County.
                                                                                                                            November 14/17

Police Blotter
On 11/9/17 at 9:30 p.m., Roger L. Breckenridge, 49, of 410 W. Embargo St., Rome, was arrested based on a Bench Warrant issued out of Oswego County Court.
Mr. Breckenridge was remanded to the OCJ to await Oswego County Court in session.
                                                                                                                            November 14/17



Another Unusual fact
We know Bohrer would have Heidi make him sandwiches. That is a fact in this. What is it Stitson describes seeing left in the deli area?? Meat on the slicer. What is it. Heidi was doing inside the store the very moment she was taken? Where was she really standing? Was her back at any point to either entrance? Possibility she never saw it coming. Did someone order a sandwich to distract her? Lots of questions. Most employees do not leave a slab of meat on the slicer. Its typically put back where it can stay cool. It's logical to believe. Someone came in, asking for asandwich.
Here's the proof
If someone distracted Heidi, by the slicer in these photos. In order to operate the slicer. She would have her back to the entrance. Notice the entrance right behind where she would have been located. Where and when is there ever fresh meat left, untouched on any slicer? In April 3, 1994 there was. Was she interrupted in the middle of slicing meat for a Sandwhich? Or was she standing directly in front by the cash register. In both positions, the entrance is behind her.



                                                                                                                            November 13/17





Where Is Heidi …. Follow The Money
I don’t know if this has been addressed here or not but why, in the middle of suspected crime scene, did the Sheriffs investigators let the owner of the store take the money from the cash register? The store opened at what 5:00 AM and Heidi goes missing around 7:30? So in 1994 there could have been what $150 - $200 to open and in the we hours of Easter Sunday morning they may have sold another $150 - $200 worth of gas, cigs and newspapers? What possible excuse could there have been for taking possible evidence from a suspected crime scene without it having been tagged, bagged or fingerprinted? I want to here Maurice “are you out of your ever lovin” explain that one.
                                                                                                                            November 12/17

Usual Facts lol


Does anyone find it unusual if you were to take out Richard or Gary Thibodeau. The distraction. Cross off all lies, or anywhere their names come up. Exclude them as suspects. What is left. Unusual facts.
Fact -Bohrer ran down the road screaming on the phone, to the sheriff's. "I know what happened to Heidi. Call Bobby Wheeler." Connection 1, Bobby Wheeler being known and requested by Michael Bohrer. Funny how Bohrer knew Robert Wheeler by his nickname.
Fact - it is documented in the Sheriffs own writing. Gram Breckenridge had made a comment," That she knew where Heidi was buried but couldn't tell anyone." Rogers own family has a secret.
Fact- Trudy the psychic Bohrer was driving around with. Was once married to officer Lortie. Another connection. Or just a simple fact. That Bohrer is driving around with a huge connection to Officer Lortie.
Fact- Breckinridge and Maynes were making comments of involvement.
Fact-Bohrer met with FBI in 95, was listed as a person of interest.
Fact-They used the idea because Gary and Richard helped search. They must be guilty. Facts, documents, photos show. Dan Barney, David Maynes, Brett Law, Mrs. Kris Duell, partial store owner are all through the old news and helped search for Heidi Allen.
Fact - Sheriffs noted and stated all doors the customers used were unlocked. Oakes suggest only the one was. Which ones lying Oakes or the Sheriffs.
Fact-Sheriff Nellis stated in 94, Gary was arrested because he matched the one who had grabbed Heidi. But Sheriff Todd testified Gary matched the eye witness as a driver. So which ones lying?
Fact - The sheriff's did deny help of 120 investigators from across the state. Denied the help. Then Cuomo sends over 200 national guard and volunteers.
Fact-Kris Duells file was tampered with prior to Gary's trial. She also helped man the search areas. Is this why Rice Road was never searched.
Fact-Several days in to the kidnapping Sheriffs said there was no proof a crime was ever committed and ended the on foot searches.
Fact-Heidi family flew in Benningfield. Benningfield sends request for searches. Thus bringing up the problem. About the then lie, they never denied help.
Fact-Bohrer David Maynes snuck on Gary Thibodeau property at 2 am. He was arrested. His excuse, he wanted to make sure the cops didn't plant anything. Is what he told reporters. What he told police was he was checking on the dog.
Fact-Reporters caught the Sheriffs pulling a shovel with human tissue on it from an investigators vehicle. When asked why they had it. They declined to respond. Smh..maybe Maynes knew Gary didn't do it, cause he did. Knew these cops would plant evidence.?
Fact-They there are to many actual facts in this. To many, unusual coindencences with all the same names. When you minus out either Thibodeau brother. You can clearly see, something's wrong. How Ironic all those same names that were named in 94, 95, reports, news, interviews, so on, are in play once again. Ask yourself. What are the chances. One in a million. An officer once said it best. " To many coincidences equal guilt."
                                                                                                                            November 12/17

The Innocent in the land of OZ
They don't believe in FBI, that's obvious. They truly think no ones paying attention. Sorry to tell them. They have been implimented 4 years ago. Every move they've made, every lie they've told has been documented. Their clock will someday not tick. The man in court. Was making fun of them. He has far more power than any sheriff with a toy badge. He saw straight through them. One comment he made. "This isn't the first time he was called to OZ." If you ask any of the ones sworn to protect you from OZ, they wouldn't believe their names on any FBI LIST. Sorry to pop their little lying bubble. But there names were given by many. I do not doubt the claims coke was being sold out of any dept up there or by any cops there in OZ, Bohrer use to meet Mr. Bobby Wheeler right across from Medspar, maybe Bobby needs a physical and should tell the truth, before its to late for him. He was spotted repeated times in his black dark tinted window car, parked across from Medspar, with good ol Bohrer hanging from the driver side window. Is that why Bobby, Bohrer says 2 things that should spark anyone. "An officer showing cocaine symptoms on the stand (must be Bohrer was in Gary's court room), that wheelers business is no good." When I personally was asked, who wheeler may be. First response was Bobby. Bobby has always been dirty. That is not something he could seem to hide at all, ever. For the good Sheriffs to put blinders on. God forgive them, they to have a nice spot in Hell, a long with Oakes, Moody, Todd and Dodd. Here's a hint Sheriffs. Many are coming for you. Times passing. In the end, your clock will stop with feds, few dozen cuffs. Do you truly think messing with a justice dept employee Lisa was going to get you anywhere, it won't. Court order comes in, it'll take from what I am told 6 hours to round you all up. Cowboy FEDS vs cop wanna bees, which ones going to win? Here Oakes a tad bit of a hint. Go pull files on East Coast resorts another coke drop off place. Ask campers from the 90's what Bohrer buddy Fabian was flying in and landing on the water, ask them you worth less DA what it is they saw. Fabian also walked away from Murder charges. How convient. I'll give you one hint. It goes up your nose. You might want to check Wheelers nose, find out why he shows signs of drug use.
                                                                                                                            November 11/17

Vanpatten corrupt to the core
I once received a phone call. From someone who helped move the van, he screamed, "Vanpatten ordered the hit on Heidi." That I do not doubt. Vanpatten is knee deep in this. He is the main problem. Notice he is no where to be found. Hiding just like the Sheriff. Vanpatten everyone is well aware you are also knee deep in to the drug field. Funny how that all works for you. How is your buddy Leo Richardson, the fella who was also arrested for holding a girl against their will? Whom owned the bar your corrupt ass rated Heidi out at? The bar known as a drug bar. Vanpatten you truly think no one really knows. Many do. Some have made calls about you. Cuffs, a jump suit and some feds, will bring pure justice. Only then, will Heidi and anyone you have ever hurt get justice. When that day comes. Many will cheer FEDS on.
                                                                                                                            November 11/17


Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
To: Theories up the ass and last witness.

this what I think too. This case has so many holes, you could walk thru it. Loved both of your posts.
Problem is when the Judge, DA and cops are all trying to cover up a bad arrest and conviction it's hard to uncover and get what you want....BUT NOT FOR THE FBI!!!

Nothing in this case makes sense except that LE wanted a quick arrest to put an end to this and not to get themselves in trouble. One poster said a few weeks ago that a retired cop told him that coke was being sold out of the OPD...true? Who knows but I've heard the same thing.

Find the old Peeled Onion blog and read Mrs. Granger's statements when she arrived at the store....

Is that why Mrs. Granger's statements were stamped late?

Face it fellas, the only hope you have for not going to prison is if the FBI or the DOJ or the NYS atty's office doesn't do a full investigation. Only a child would believe any of this investigation was done without corruption.


Does Jenn Westcott feel like an ignored woman after she spilled he guts to the OCSD inv. and nothing was done about it? She told you what happened and you sat there and ignored it. Would you please respond and let us know why?
                                                                                                                            November 10/17

Theories up the ASS
One theory was Gary and Richard picked Heidi up. Went to Gary's. Gary and Heidi enter the woods. Start arguing, Gary then hits her in the head with a shovel. They then bring Heidi back to the store. Richard forgets his smokes. Upon returning Heidi is missing. Per Baldasaro theory. So who took Heidi after being dropped off?

Second Theory is a witness saw Gary and Richard carry something rolled up and taken in the woods. So if she's rolled up in something and taken in the woods. Then apparently Heidi was never dropped off back at the store, per Baldasaros claims.

Third theory they couldn't have carried her off in any woods if Gary was then blamed for burning her remains in his wood stove and then burying her on his property.
So, some how she removed herself from the store. After coming back from Garys, was then carried off inside a rolled up item, taken in to the woods. Then burned in a stove that sat right beside Gary's home, later to be buried on his property. Quite a series of theories. But these aren't all.

The fourth is opportunity. Crime of passion per Sheriffs comments on Dateline. In turn it contradicts Baldasaro the jail house snitch, who says Richard and Gary planned to meet with Heidi to talk to her.

Opportunity is never a planned event. That’s probably why the Sheriff himself has learned to shut up. "There are no cabins there never were.", " James Steens not a bad guy.",..the Sheriff and it's offices look like morons. No Sheriff the only one out of their ever loving minds are those supporting this conviction and any if you corrupt officials. Due to political status, job title, you name it, it doesn't matter. Right is right "Sheriffs" and this is all wrong. If they support you. Their IQ, can't be to high. There is a point. Bad cops, make them all look corrupt.
                                                                                                                            November 8-9/17

Bobby Baldasaro
Has anyone besides Dodd seen the notes about Bobby?

HHmmm. A report from Florida probation says they recommend that his probation be revoked and "2 years community control for closer supervision". Notes show that a governors warrant was issued for him. They were going to hold him up in MA so he can testify in NY "then we can justify putting him back on probation". What? He got probation for testifying in NY.

Damn, and I thought it was testified to that neither inmate received any benefit for testifying.?!

It's all in black and white...Bobby did.
                                                                                                                            November 7/17

Heidi Allen
It is refreshing after all this time to see your readers are getting closer, the post that stated the officer did this and that. the same officer that was infatuated with this new young informer, who lost her card at the same place she was taken from, find out who got her the job. could it be the same officer that happened to pass by that morning and was flagged down, fits the FBI profile, who manipulated the investigation toward the two brothers or others near by.
                                                                                                                            November 7/17

Here are some more Facts that Oakes and the Leos seem to by pass.

Fact - the same officer whom exposed Heidi is one who met with Richard Thibodeau.
Fact - The same officer exposed her twice, not once as Oakes and Sheriff like to think.
Fact - This officer knew Mensch, whom is great buddies to Dan Barney
Fact - This officer exposed Heidi to Mensch.
Fact - Heidi then vanished.
Fact - They hid all info on Bohrer even though FBI took his statement in 95 and he was listed as a suspicious person
Fact - Dan Barney was real probable suspect
Fact - Store owners file was breached prior to Gary's original trial
Fact - They with held the suspect list
Fact - They with held CI card, per Terry Whipple testimony, "I can not give to defense what was not given to me."
Fact- Gary, nor Sharon ever went to Mass, per Sheriff own testimony and paperwork of them detailing Gary's Cadillac in his driveway the night of April 3, 1994.
Fact - The Sheriff dept and the DA office are habitual liars.
Fact - The higher powers in OZ, have no idea, all eyes from higher authority have watched every move they have made for 4 years for a reason.
Fact - Officer Petrowski disposed of, stole or has hidden evidence. Just may have been caught by higher authority, than himself.
Fact- citizens were complaining even DA Oakes went around spewing an entirely new theory about Gary throwing Heidi remains off a cliff in MASS, even though evidence shows Gary was in OZ, NY.
Fact Greg seems to believe the words only from Baldasaro, but clearly bypasses the suspects own admissions.
Fact everyone but Baldasaro to Oakes is hear say. Even though it's a fact Baldasaro in the Sheriffs papers claims he heard everything from a man named chicken.
Fact- Chicken tells the Sheriffs. He hears nothing from Gary. Is that why Chicken wasn't called to testify.
Fact That Donald Dodd is a dirty ass DA, and Oakes is right on Dodds heels.
                                                                                                                            November 6/17

Heidi Allen case
I wish that someone would do an entirely factual story from front to back on how the brothers became suspect and one was convicted and the other acquitted. There is so much available for the public to get the facts about.

Juries get it wrong often and that’s why there have been so many people let go over the past 10 years, and more. Mostly because of false convictions due to shoddy DNA testing but others from misidentification and prosecutors who “coach” their witnesses into saying what they think the jury wants to hear to convict.

Didn’t Dodd say during the Hearing that all documents had two stamps and a green mark? Well, where’s those on Mrs. Granger’s statements? “All documents were handled the same.” I think not. Or did you mean only the documents YOU wanted handled that way. Was Mrs. Granger’s statements one of those documents which you wouldn’t say what it was that you weren’t turning over?

Are most prosecutors ego-maniacs?
                                                                                                                            November 3/17

Brenda Rice....Really
Brenda Rice is Oswego City's version of Howie Hawkins. Runs every couple of years and nobody is going to take her serious. Two minutes of talking to her on the front porch is enough exposure for a couple of years.
Hang it up Brenda...your mouth alone will defeat you.
                                                                                                                            November 3/17

Lets Get To Know The Real NATE EMMONS
Lets get to know the real Nate Emmons...

Since being elected into office as an Alderman NATE EMMONS has done the following...

1. NATE EMMONS has voted YES to RAISE TAXES.. so his flyer "cutting out the fat" must have a different meaning to Nate Emmons

2. NATE EMMONS voted YES to lay off Fireman from The Oswego Fire Department

3. NATE EMMONS voted yes to layoff CSEA Employees



                                                                                                                            November 3/17



Brenda Rice
Three times the first ward elected someone else and they all were duds.
Maybe it is time for Brenda Rice.

                                                                                                                            November 3/17


Xpress Auto Care
Beware aware of the crew over at Xpress Auto Care as they are failing inspections on purpose. I was recently there and the crew are a bunch of young punks who lie and falsify documents. I told the crew I was going to report them to the owner and asked for the owners name but none of them claimed to know the owner (lies). After telling them I was going to report them to their boss they wanted to fight; no worries all the guys there weigh like 98 pounds. The main issue is they told me that my inspection failed do to the aliment of my car and I bought my car from a dealer less than a year ago and the car is like brand new; I was also told by other inspection places that it was obvious that they ripped me off as most don't inspect for aliment. Everyone beware and to the owner, you never called me so this is what you have to deal with now!

                                                                                                                            November 3/17

Past Witness
As far as Appeal and Dodd's or OCSD's credibility in discovery....Why does Pat Granger's first statement made on April 3, 1994 have a Received by Oswego County Sheriff's Dept. stamp on July 21, 1995? Her second statement was made on July 14, 1995. That was after Gary's trial already started. Is it proper to stamp "received" 15 months after the statement was taken?

**Head slap** This is OCSD who allows their deputies to write reports 2 years after an incident related to Heidi.
                                                                                                                            November 2/17


Death to common sense
Look closer at the Sheriffs time line.
4:19 a.m., someone arrived two hours prior to Heidi and turned the register on. Who, why and did they also exit the building. Sheriffs have, Heidi, Mr. S, Richard and Mr. Stitson all on the scene at the same time. Impossible. Their time lines a joke. Their investigation should not have started at the time Heidi turned on the cash register at 6 am, but at 4:19 am, I am certain the owners of the store should be able to explain who accessed the store prior to Heidi, who had a key and why were they there. No ones paying any attention to the fact the store had a visitor that obviously had access to store keys, cash register keys two hours prior to Heidi. The State police just slapped the shit out of the Sheriffs by saying we do not arrest on pure speculation and we work with FBI. SHERIFFS arrest on speculation, they refuse to work with FBI, the dept is a joke, ransacked by corrupt officials. That's reality.
                                                                                                                            October 31/17

Gary Thibodeau.....The Death Of Common Sense
Still wondering about all the loose ends in this case (easily found) and the real big one is the time lines at the store.

Stinson (not accusing him of any crime) said he was there at 7:38 after a deputy and himself timed his route and he found out his watch was 3 minutes slower than he thought.

Richard and Swenkowski got there a 7:41.

If Stinson got there 3 minutes before Richard and Swenkowski, why didn't he go into the store? Why did he wait 4 minutes to do so. Had to be after 7:42 per OCSD time of kidnapping by Richard and Gary because Stinson said he did NOT see Heidi....how, just how the hell could this ACTUALLY, factually and really have happened like this???

And he said he did not see anyone or any vehicles there, but Swenkowski did , Richard did, they both saw Heidi, but Stinson said he didn't see Heidi. Swenkowski testified that he saw Richard leave the store ALONE. But still Stinson said he saw nothing and then entered the store, and no Heidi.

HOW COULD THIS HAVE HAPPENED???? And was this addressed in the grand jury or the first trial. See people it is impossible for Richard and Gary (who was not seen there, by ANYONE) to commit this crime.

I know what my opinion is, what's yours?
                                                                                                                            October 30/17


RE: So what's up with this jeep and wagon business? Wouldn't that be considered theft of services? A lot of questions to be answered.

When Kells took a trailer from the citys old equipment and had the DPW fix it up there is nothing wrong with that. When he had it delivered to his house to be used for his Halloween hayride then it became theft of city equipment.

When he took a Jeep from the city impound lot had the mechanics fix it up filled it with gas at the city pumps and then delivered to his house to pull the hay wagon that was theft of services, theft of gasoline and grand theft auto.

The mayor knew and so did the police chief.

                                                                                                                              October 30/17



The FBI profiler said that the person that abducted Heidi Allen would be someone obsessed with the case and someone that would try and involve them self in the investigation. That fits two people I can think of Michale Boher and Lisa Buske.
                                                                                                                            October 24/17

I to hope it's their turn...

                                                                                                                            October 23/17

Deadline: Crime with Tamron Hall "The Vanishing Clerk"
I watched. One of the most noteworthy quotes from the show was when Lisa Buske, Heidi's sister, said that one can't form an opinion simply from reading the news. I believe she was referring to the recent revelations however, I'd like to take it back to 1994/1995 when the jurors spoke anonymously after the verdict. They, or only one, commented such as "they made the van move", we didn't believe Gary's alibi because "we thought she was trying to protect her man", "they must of had plastic in the van". Forming a personal opinion about the defense witness/es. Specifically, that Richard's (Teresa) elderly family members testified about his alibi but was having a difficult time remembering a timeline without opining the same for the eyewitness who was much younger that "I don't recall" often when questioned by the Defense. Facts via witness testimony show that it was impossible for the van to have moved the way it did in the time period testified to. Gary's alibi was acquitted of lying but not until after Gary's conviction. There was no evidence via testimony that suggested there was plastic in the van. If that's what the jurors based their verdict on, their own possible theories, they are just as wrong in their decision as the DA is for continuing to punish Gary "The Innocent" Thibodeau. ALL the theories of how Gary and Richard could have committed the crime of kidnapping Heidi have been debunked. She wasn't burned and buried on Gary's property as the inmates testified to as evidenced by no DNA evidence or any link by the FBI. The taking Heidi to MA in the Caddy theory was debunked by proof via Gary's alibis' charges for perjury relating to going to MA being dismissed and no evidence that the rolled rug, or whatever was claimed in the show, having any link to Heidi. No surprise that Lisa B. gave up hope on finding Heidi alive after 10 years when the DA claims that Gary and Richard "brought her to a place never to be found". "We just know they did it but can't tell you how, why or where". That's Justice? For Heidi's or Gary's family? Justice would be following up more stringently on the "boasters" because at the very least 3 cadaver dogs indicated in an area similar to where one of them claimed to have taken Heidi's body and the Fact that Jennifer Wescott failed her lie detector test and then went for another interview with the DA present and was recorded saying what she knows. And, IMPORTANTLY, Richard and Gary both passed lie detector tests. Richard-just 6 days after Heidi disappeared and Gary-a year or so later after the conviction. Why wasn't Gary given one by the Sheriff's before his arrest?
                                                                                                                            October 23/17


Even Juors didn't care
Is this what Lisa Buske is defending a case with no evidence not a drop. A case where the jurors were taking naps and reporters not only witnessed this, they wrote about it, in between naps LISA BUSKE they asked for a case of beer. Your sisters case has been nothing more than a joke. Fight away Lisa til you die, your fighting nothing. You've ALLOWED this along with your family.
                                                                                                                            October 22/17

Lisa Buske
What is it Lisa has done to actually fight for her sister? Not a damn thing. She's done nothing but pamper those who created this mess. While helping hinder an investigation. She's nothing more than a direct road block to the truth to what happened to Heidi. I'll tell you Lisa no one will help you any further. You are the reason no one else will come forward. You support the DA claiming your sisters a druggie and your Aunts a LIAR. Great support for your sister. One person of higher statue said it the best. Lisa you are simply not smart enough to figure out you have been fooled. Keep supporting them. Lisa why not tell the truly good folks of Oswego about your bull shit even with Dateline. Walking off the set when asked if you or Heidi were druggies. But yet support the DA DODD WHO CLAIMS YOUR SISTERS A DAMN DRUGGIE. YOU MAKE NO SENSE. NONE. Eventually even all your lies are going to come out. Then Lisa every one will know exactly who you are. A me,me, me type person. Not once have you ever truly helped your sister in any way. Not once since this entire thing began have you even met any of the witnesses only slammed anyone trying to help Heidi. Karma Lisa will come your way. SO quit asking anyone for help. Most people know your a self centered me, me, me type person that had no real relationship with Heidi. You are a fool, and a out right fake.
                                                                                                                            October 21/17


                                                                                                                 October 16/17Anne Bronte




secrets of the inner workings at the DPW.
We the employees for the city of Oswego DPW. Are instructed to dump our waste from our Vector truck (sewer vacuum) not all storm runoff sometimes sewage is involved. We are instructed to go up to the east side Reservoir behind the mental health facility and dump our thousand gallon tanks on the trucks in the woods. Somebody with the know-how and big enough balls needs to go up there and take a soil sample. I really don't think this activity is legal. But from the corruption and crazy things I have been seen happen around town, I would not know where to start you can't call the police because they have an agreement to immediately call mr. Kells if it's a city issue. I have witnessed that myself at my residence. With the discussion of Sergeant Berger stating mr. Kells has never been issued a badge. then why did one of your young rookie officers override my request to make a report to Oswego PD. And denied me that right. Is there anyone out there that can help.
                                                                                                                            October 15/17


The faces have changed but the city is right back to where it was when Gosuck and Dumbsmoor were running it.

Here's a good laugh.
Corruption at the DPW led by mr. Kells, just another bit of news to our taxpayers I bet you are not aware that Kells has an agreement with scriba we go out there and cut trees. With our tree truck chipper a supervisor his pickup truck and normally one more vehicle to carry guys roughly up to eight guys go on these Journeys to scriba. I've been on 5 of the trips myself, this is been going on since Kells took office. Is it just me or has any other taxpayers seen scriba DPW in the city limits working off the trade agreement of the tree removals. I have never witnessed scriba in our city doing anything. Oswego city DPW has spent a lot of money out in the town of scriba !!
                                                                                                                            October 13/17

Racetrack IDA Corruption
The track is owned by Oswego IDA/Operation Oswego who are running an illegal slush fund, revolving loans to each other. Tom Kells DPW commissioner with zero qualifications is a recent board member. This is the connection to much of the corruption between Oswego and NY State. And Kells orders the OPD to stand down on every complaint.



                                                                                                                            October 11/17

County of Oswego IDA
· Established an unauthorized revolving loan program, using its own funds, to finance a portion of the cost of projects. The IDA had 90 loans outstanding as of May 31, 2014, totaling nearly $9.6 million that were financed by its own funds.
· There is no formal process to compare current and projected jobs at the time of application to the reported number of jobs actually created and retained.
· Auditors found 31 companies that received loans only created half of the jobs they said they would create. http://www.osc.state.ny.us/press/releases/apr15/042815.htm

                                                                                                                            October 11/17



Re: Free Water
Let's see now…
There's a City of Oswego fire hydrant, hooked up with what appears to be a brand new fire hose supplying “FREE WATER” to the Oswego speedway.
Question’s; a) Where did the hose come from? b) Who was responsible for hooking it up? (Who authorized this?)
NOW! There just happen to the “Official Safety Truck” from “Safety Solutions” Parked on an off this past weekend at the west side fire station. (Solves where the city owned fire hose came from.)
But more questions’: Who owns the truck? And is it an Oswego City fireman? Just have to check the “duty roster” and fined out who was working this weekend…
Then fire Oswego DPW Commissioner Tom Kells and whoever hooked up that fire hose to the hydrant.

                                                                                                                            October 10/17



Re: FYI...Oswego Speedway Water Draw Free Water

That's an expensive piece of city owned hardware lying on the ground. It's a wonder that someone didn't run over it? Trucks pulling campers, big rigs, dark at night, or stole it? And if a fire had broke out in the city and the fire dept. needed that valve... been hell to pay.

                                                                                                                            October 10/17

More on OZ Speedway
Just read the news article on the ownership and promoters that are getting million dollar handouts from the Guv Cuomo for this Super Dirt Week event that claims to draw 70,000 tourists to OZ when in fact the facility can only seat 5,000.

As it goes the promoters and speedway owners have out of state business addresses that happen to be income tax free from taxes. So tax payer money is going across state lines and not back in the community.

Kells and the people that are city workers need to go to jail for there actions of double dipping and giving the speedway free handouts at the expense of senior tax payers getting shafted for these increases to subsidize others pockets.

How bad can it get?

So, after reading all the apparently factual info on the water stealing at the speedway, the Board of Education actions, Port Authority being mismanaged, the disappearing soybeans, the most well known area bank not being responsible with tracking missing receipts and financial responsibilities connected to this,, the whole DPW debacle, misuse of funds, resources, etc. The need to run misdeeds of city workers past Mr. Kells' when reporting a traffic infraction and dangerous driving experience to the Police Department... The OPD hand in hand with the DPW, school busses speeding through the city,. The new construction with questionable debris removal, without appropriate permits, safety features in place, hazmat issues, training issues, etc. These posts go on and on. Questionable mayoral campaign donation sources, apartments with prostitution running rampant....

Can anyone tell me...Where do these statements end up? Is it all a joke? Is all this a sick source of a type of entertainment? Or if true.... All just under the proverbial rug? Everything from- unsolved murders to stealing city resources and taxpayers money? If this is all factual, backed by tángible sources, facts, photos, and witnesses, how can these very public and well known incidences go uninvestigated? Why is there no official investigation or powers in place putting a stop to it, arrests, fines, or governmental interference and stops put in place? How bad can one city get before someone, something bigger and more powerful steps in?

                                                                                                                            October 10/17


If you will recall it took the State Police, FBI and US Attorney to get rid of the Gosek Mafia.

This bunch seems determined to out do them.





Today's Quote October 3/2017

Just because something doesn't do what you planned it to do doesn't mean it's useless.
Thomas A. Edison

Person Of Interest VANISHED
Michael Bohrer a person of interest in the disappearance of Heidi Allen has himself dropped off the radar. Bohrer who was arrested in relation to the abduction of another woman in another state testified at the 2014 Thibodeau hearing. While he had been seen since the hearing he seems to have completely vanished in the last 8-10 months. If anyone knows of his whereabouts send a message to this site.

                                                                                                                            October 3/17

Mr. Mayor and Mr. Kells
Is it true Mr . Kells that you watch your workers on GPS, instead of driving around, and surveying the work that has to be done ?
This is about you ,Mr Kells and your lack of construction and people skills. The mountain must be tall at your house, but you are three feet tall in mine !
I hope the new aldermen have more backbone than the out going bobble heads ! I guess siting around sucking coffee, is how they get there pat on the backs !
                                                                                                                            October 3/17


Today's  Quote September 14/2017

I believe that the way people live can be directed a little by architecture.
Tadao Ando

Donations "friends of Billy barlow"

                                                                                                                          September 13/17


Lest we forget Wheeler
What's that I read? At the pre-trial Hearing in 1995 Wheeler testified to not knowing that Gary was a suspect in MA? But...he received the warrant via fax in 1994 and the notes show he was at the brief on April 15, 1994 when Gary was named as prime suspect.

Now, why was nothing done about Wheeler's verifiable, blatant, proven lie under oath?



Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Does anyone think it was suspicious:.. that Jennifer Westcott didn't tell the inv. that she lied until after they told her the phone call was taped?

...that Oakes brought Tonya just to discredit her
...that Oakes said he didn't believe anything JW said but offered her (per JW) immunity
...that Oakes said he didn't believe Tonya but wouldn't give her a poly that she asked for
...that JW was just trying to appease her and get her of the phone. "I won't lie to ya"...JW to Tonya on the phone.
...that Oakes never mentioned that JW kid accidently hit Tonya's phone mumber
...that the whole phone call per OCSD may have been stagged. Yeah JW is going to put herself into a crime
..."I guess I was just confessing I had Heidi Allen in my house"...Jenn Westcott....remember she said she never lived there
...that JW said "I never said anything about them bringing her in a WHITE van...yes people sha said a WHITE van. The inv. then said "no, that isn't what you said".
...and then goes back and tells them that she was told what happened to HA.


The worst cover up since the JFK murder. Just read it, Swenkowski, Richard, Stinson, Bivens is all you need to read to know something fishy happened here and I dare any DA to PROVE this crime happened the way they said it did. IMPOSSIBLE ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE. You guys made a lot of mistakes.
                                                                                                                        August 30/17


December 8, 1994-Pre-trial motions which include request for discovery-the partial transcript page from Exhibit #28 of Oakes’ filing to the Motion to vacate says, “The Court: He doesn’t want to tell you what he’s holding back, Mr. Walsh.”
December 14,1994-Fahey went to inspect discovery material-
Viewed tapes, photos, etc…”a copy of the entire Oswego County Sheriff’s Department report relative to this criminal action”.
Why did this not include the bulk storage material from the search center? Those items were no less a part of “the entire OCSD report” to this criminal action? Had they been made available to Fahey on December 14, the CI index card would have been “found” then instead of May 1995.




                                                                                                                        August 29/17





Today's  Quote August 12/2017

Dreams will get you nowhere, a good kick in the pants will take you a long way.
Baltasar Gracian

It Begins
Garys appeal was granted permission to proceed.

                                                                                                                                  August 12/17

Cabin diggers








Moe says, “There are no cabins, trust me.” There never was.?

Coward…won’t publicly respond to being Wrong!

And, what’s up with taking a small excavator to the site After the ME completed their forensic examination? Look at Lt. Moskal’s affidavit #8.

BTW…Wasn’t Darron a prosecution witness? He built the “cabin”, aka “fort” for a youngster, and he testified that his grandfather, the landlord of 68 Rice Road would not live with his tenant in opposition to what D. Purdy testified to. Darron also testified that he would mow Purdy’s lawn and take care of their dog Because They Were Not At Their Residence. Trust Me…if one was at the Hearing, one would KNOW the testimony.

I believe the good people who have come forward, risking ridicule and naysayers, more than I believe LE who has proven time and time again to be fabricators and twisters of facts. Kudos to all who take that risk. Their information is invaluable to the Big Picture.

Thank you for posting on your site the Facts and Truth about a case that has riveted the community for 20+ years. We want the entire truth and we want Heidi found!!











                                                                                                                                  August 12/17

Old News revelation in Heidi Allen Case
Maybe you or someone in public land would care to discuss the likely reason that Oakes filed a dismissed charge against a woman who claimed to have received Heidi’s bracelet in the mail years later. Interesting enough about that dismissed charge is that Auntie, apparently, swapped Heidi’s name for true person, and maybe twisted some other details? A whole slew of other witnesses’ past, wasn’t filed for the hearing. Was Auntie mad that someone other than she, from the family, spoke up to say something other than “We trust our law enforcement”? Auntie admits after 20+ years that “they kept it a secret” that Heidi was a CI. For 20+ years of lying, what credibility does she have to say that Heidi was in trouble and that’s why her husband got her into being a CI.

What do you think? Am I being illogical or rude for talking about a family member like that?

Sad Really that Heidi should and could have been found if not for people not wanting to take responsibility for their part in her disappearance.
                                                                                                                                August 12/17


Oakes' roadside conference where possible remains of Heidi may have been disposed of
First…didn’t 3 cadaver dogs indicate near the same spot?

Notice at the beginning of the video where John O’Brien is asking questions and Oakes blames him and an investigator of disturbing the area?
Notice the dates the following statements were given to police and the date of this roadside conference:
3 years later and still no apology even if Oakes didn’t know right away, surely he should have at some point soon after the conference. It didn’t occur to him that he publicly, falsely accused the wrong people of disturbing the area? (A little attention to detail may help solve the problem and answer the Question!!) AND why were the disturbers excused? Oh, that’s right, because Todd says there were no cabins back there so there was no reason to believe that Steen told Tonya about disposing of Heidi’s remains there. I get it!!



                                                                                                                                  August 10/17

Reply to death of common sense
Funny you knew about the big person who was present in court. You also knew exactly what was said. Wonder if the Sheriffs or DA are smart enough to figure out who was that was sitting on Garys side. Very few knew this person was in the court room. Very very few knew the exact comments made. You are absolutely correct. I also agree with this person present during the hearing. I do not think no matter what the courts say or do. In the end, the entire Oswego County will be taking a hit. Like one they've never seen before. This person has far more power than the little DAs playing a game. We will see, but I do think you are 100 percent correct. This person was NOT fooled by these idiots in Oswego and they made that very clear. But how you knew, is beyond me. You even quoted them correct. Not very many knew what was ever said. They also stated they could solve this case in two weeks. Seems the Sheriffs cant even after twenty three years. They did not pull the wool over this persons eyes. This person has far more power than even little Sheriff Todd.
                                                                                                                                August 10/17

Reply to Heidi Case
Good question seeing as not only did they pass lie detector tests, they passed pubic hair sample testing, cleared on DNA with all vehicles and on Gary own land. Why was it David Maynes was arrested for trespassing on Gary Thibodeau property at 2 am, he claimed he was snooping to make sure cops did not plant anything. Also why is it they continued this after they removed the judge whom would not let Dodd break the law. Look in to the other cases in the county that went on in 1994/1995 you will find Dodd could not get a conviction in the higher level cases with out a jail house prisoner. The lies Dodd even told about Sharon when Sheriffs officers testified that the Thibodeau's were home the evening of April 3, 1994 and not in Mass as Dodd like to make tall tales that seem to be contradicted by the Sheriff Dept. Why is it Nellis stated that Gary was arrested because he fit Bivens description of being the one dragging Heidi from the store but Todd testified it was Richard dragging Heidi from the store. To Heidi family, all respect is given but until you stop standing with the liars, you will get no further help from anyone in the public, You claim you want people to come forward but when they do you criticize them. You have souly stopped anyone from wanting to help your family. No one will come forward any further after the insane crap going on with this family. Back in 1994 not only did the family attempt to shoot at Richard and Heidi's fathers guns were taken, they then Martha Sturtz says rearmed the Allen family, I quote the uncle if we want to put a bullet in Richards head, we have the right to express that. In reality no you did not, its assault and you all should have been charged, if you succeeded in killing one of the Thibodeau brothers, you'd have been right along side of Gary in prison, but should rightfully have been there. He should never have been there. The Allen family has not been honest and it is sad, seeing as Heidi is still missing, seems they are doing nothing to help find her. They knew then she was a CI and lied to the public. My compassion goes to Heidi and not to her family whom has done a ton of hiding information for what reason? Her being a CI is important it opens doors to what may have happened to her, your family secret is NOT and WILL never be worth the life of Heidi. EVER. I will quote Fredrick Lings and Richard Stepien as they testified, they admitted the Thibodeau's were home the night of April 3, 1994 not in Mass as Dodd tried to claim for grounds to arrest Sharon. Ling said, " On April 3, 1994 around midnight, I jotted down the license plate number of the Cadillac." Well per Dodd's lies, he claims this Cadillac was in Mass. If you can not see the lies Lisa B, you shouldn't be printing any books, or blogs in regard's to your sister. Stitson also called you out on your own lies built and written in your book. Pretty sad, all of these lies are why Heidi has never been found. Dodd calls all claims against his dept. "baloney." Guess the Allen family never noticed another murder case going on at the same time as Gary's. Chavez-Flores case in 1995 in which case again two jail house prisoners were used at the same exact time and I will also quote Lanza, "Its Ridiculous, why can't cases be judged on merits, the Da can not win a case in this county with out jailhouse prisoners." I will quote myself he can not win a case without lying either and I guess the Allen family never noticed any other cases unfolding the same EXACT way. They violated every possible law to gain this conviction and Gary's case was not the only one. During 1995 Dodd had another case tossed, why cause he had two theories. SO- tell us if Gary buried Heidi on his property, like DA suggests, then why is there a theory he fled to Mass? Two theories, ILLEGAL and this case should have been tossed. In the end it will be. This is where the idiot OAKES came up with this new theory he told to citizens as he made his rounds in Oswego during re election. He claimed to citizens that they tossed Heidi's remains over a cliff in MASS. If you believe that shit story that came from DODD, seek mental help Oakes. Two officers already confirmed that was an out right lie, that you continued to spread to the public a few years ago. (which originated from none other than DODD) When real honest people start to stand up and do the job the Sheriffs refuse to. Then this case will explode and hopefully men in real suits will come wipe out the entire legislative branch of Oswego. The old news is making its rounds and this case has become a national disgrace.
                                                                                                                                August 4/17




Richard Thibadeau's Van

In The Possession Of The Oswego County Sheriff's Department.

All of the doors are black and

there is a large black stripe down each side.

Only the front is all white


OCSD investigators took statements from people describing a white van and or a light blue van.

A 10-year-old with 20-20 vision or a visually impaired 110-year-old will tell you this is not a white van.



This is a BLACK AND WHITE van.

ANYONE WHO GAVE A DESCRIPTION (from a view other than head on),




Inside sources say the OCSD has recently conducted yet another search/inspection of Richard Thibadeau's van and again found no DNA or any other evidence.


That is at least twice they have proven there is no connection between Thibadeau's van and the disappearance of Heidi Allen!



Fire department
Does anyone know if our resident fire department THIEF is one of the firefighters being laid off? If not he should be.
Looks like he is trying to impersonate a Fire Chief, maybe he is going to apply for the Chief's job next year.

This is OZ he/she could be the next chief.

Who made a noise

In David Stinson's statement, given on 4-8-1994 @ 3:56 pm, he says: "This all occurred in about 1-2 minutes. I waited a few minutes for the clerk. I remember hearing something in the back room to the left.

This sound reassured me that someone was there and I waited patiently for the clerk."




To the left? By the back door, the one not everyone knew about? The one the "family" used? Look at this picture closely, see the plywood covering up the old back door, to the left. Who was back there?


                                                                                                                                                 September 29/16


If the back room looked anything like what can be seen outside the back door he probably heard rats.




Today's  Quote  September 22/2016

“We were making the future, he said, and hardly any of us troubled to think what future we were making.

And here it is!”

H. G. Wells

I read what you did, and we all know who you are!
I read what you did, and we all know who you are! Donald Dodd, Reuel Todd, Greg Oakes, Mark Moody, Daniel King, and Donald Todd

As a citizen of this county, you all work for me, not each other. This is too inform you that I am calling you out, for the truth !
I have read all of the information you filed. There is no glaring evidence against Gary Thibodeau, because if there was, you would have had to file it. Further witheld evidence
would constitute another Brady Violation. I pondered today what in the world the former jurors were told in Gary's trial by you, Donald Dodd. Your timeline is preposterous. It is not even worth mentioning. Reuel Todd, please tell me what led you to the Thibodeau brothers? I cannot find any supporting documentation that sends the case towards them. A criminal never calls and identifies themselves, as being at the scene of the crime. Who is Borrelli, and why were you going so far as to talk about him being in a photo line up for the clerks at the D&W 4-16-1994, but on 4-14-1994, Borrelli was given "walking papers" yesterday. That would have made it 4-13-1994. On 4-15-94, you say:" Is it time to do a photo line up on Borrelli?" So you gave Borrelli "walking papers", I believe that means you let him go, on 4-13-94, but on 4-15-94 and again on 4-16-94, you were going to have the clerks at the D&W look at his picture? But after 4-16-94, Borrelli is never mentioned again.

On 4-14-94, the lead sheet says, "Danny Barney, has come into view as a probably suspect". On 4-15-94, the lead sheet says: Wheeler interviewed Dan Barney yesterday,
at length. Believes Barney is not a suspect." Where are the notes from the interview with Dan Barney? 4-15-94, it says, "late yesterday, Gary Thibodeau, entered the picture as a possible suspect. This developes from a lead that came in early on." Where is the lead, Moe? I can't find any documentation of a lead about Gary, being a suspect. Who told you Gary had a crush on Heidi? Or that Gary was ever coming on to Heidi? The only documentation about anyone coming onto Heidi, is in her diary, about her boss, Matt Duell, not Gary.

The case against Gary Thibodeau, regarding Heidi Allen's abduction, is all like the above mentioned fairy tales. This person is a suspect, no, we let him go. Hey, this person might have done it, no, we talked to him and he said he didn't do it. So you decided amongst yourselves, to pin it on a person and his brother, that you had no evidence against, only a citizen that was trying to help you.

So I say that the Appellate Division will get the public the answers we have been seeking for 22 years. Dumb of us to ever believe that our District Attorney's Office, or
Sheriff's Department, were honest or truthful. All you were looking for was someone to blame it on, to puff yourselves up, but I'm sure soon, it will be deflated, like yesterday's
birthday balloons. The public doesn't believe you, trust you, or support corrupt officials.

                                                                                                                                           September 22/16

Oakes habitual liar
Oakes you are a bold faced liar anyone with a computer and access to this blog can see how much of a liar you are. In 1994/95 arrest and conviction of Gary Thibodeau. Fahey repeatedly requested the CI file, he was told Allen wasnt an informant. He then requested a dismissal due to with holding of evidence. The old news reports do not support Oakes bull shit lies. Fahey over and over called Dodd, out on this CI status and requested her entire CI file. Again they played the Allen wasnt a CI. http://heidiallenarticles.blogspot.com/?m=1 take the time to study openly on your own. The DA office are hubitual liars and so are the Sheriffs. Request a state police if you need an officer. The lies are sickening. The Sheriff dept. Should be shut down.
                                                                                                                                           September 22/16

In Again Out Again Breckenridge
Roger Breckenridge out of Prison
Identifying and Location Information
As of 09/21/16 DIN (Department Identification Number) 13B0403
Date of Birth 08/11/1968
Race / Ethnicity WHITE
Custody Status RELEASED
Housing / Releasing Facility GOWANDA
Date Received (Original) 02/14/2013
Date Received (Current) 06/03/2016
Admission Type
County of Commitment OSWEGO
Latest Release Date / Type (Released Inmates Only) 08/25/16 PAROLE DIV OF PAROLE

Crimes of Conviction
If all 4 crime fields contain data, there may be additional crimes not shown here. In this case, the crimes shown here are those with the longest sentences.
As of 09/21/16 Crime Class

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As of 09/21/16 Aggregate Minimum Sentence 0001 Years, 00 Months, 00 Days
Aggregate Maximum Sentence 0004 Years, 00 Months, 00 Days
Earliest Release Date
Earliest Release Type
Parole Hearing Date 06/2016
Parole Eligibility Date 10/24/2013
Conditional Release Date NONE
Maximum Expiration Date 11/02/2016
Maximum Expiration Date for Parole Supervision
Post Release Supervision Maximum Expiration Date
Parole Board Discharge Date

                                                                                                                                                 September 22/16


Today's  Quote  September 19-20/2016

“Whether one eats a cat or not is a personal choice, and I don't want to sway anyone one way or another.

But if you do, there is one obvious cooking tip: Always remember to remove the bell from the cat's collar before cooking.”
Mike Royko


Gary Thibodeau...The death of common sense
Are the prosecution witnesses really witnesses as to what they saw or are they just a link to a prosecution procedure that convicted an innocent man.

Witnesses provide information to help the prosecutor convince a jury that a person is guilty as charged.

- Dave Stinson: was there from 7:41 - 7:45, waved down a deputy but did not tell him that he saw a kidnapping.
- Richard was there and left at 7:42 and was seen by Stinson (at least he had to be) but not seen kidnapping HA.
- Stinson walked in after 7:42 and no Heidi. Now how could Richard have done this in one minute, with Stinson being there but did not see anything. He also never mentioned that he saw anyone let alone Gary.
- Mr. Swenkowski said he watched Richard leave the store and then left. He was there at 7:41 also.
- Swenkowski also saod he saw one person.
- Two people there at the time of the crime and saw nothing.
- Bivens said he saw two husky men and a women but NO TIME WAS MENTIONED IN THE DA's STATEMENT OF FACTS.
- So this makes a question of when Bivens was there. Had to be after and close to 7:42 according to the OCSD as that is when Richard bought cigs and left.
- How could Bivens see the crime and Swenkowski and Stinson didn't although they had to be there at the same time because Stinson walked in at 7:41 and no Heidi.
- Bivens stated that he did not remember telling a deputy later that he had driven by at 8-8:30. He saw the crime, then Stinson has to be mistaken about HA not being in the store. Which could happen but he flagged down Deputy Curtis and he also checked for Heidi...not found.
- Stinson said he saw two husky men with a girl in the parking lot. He said there wasn't anyone or cars in the lot.
Wasn't Stinson and Swenkowski there per their statements. Swenkowski also said the deputies tried to convince him that his time was off but he stood his ground on the time he gave.
- I personally don't believe Bivens was even there..(just my opinion). His time is way off and no time was recorded when he first gave his statement according to the DA's Facts...no time given with his statement. Why not?
- Then we have Gary going to a MA prison and snitches give stories that we now know are not true.
- Bottom line: two witnesses there at the time of the crime but did not see Richard taking Heidi. Bivens saying he saw two husky men taking her (but no time was given by him) but Swenkowski and Stinson were there and did
not see anything.
To the DA involved in this. You sir have NO WITNESSES AT ALL! Maybe a story teller but if at least you should have had three witnesses. Bivens could not have seen a crime between 8-8:30 because the OCSD was there at that time.

I submit to you that you set up a frame of Richard and Gary Thibodeau (and a bad one that is full of holes) got bad info from snitches who I think lied and their statement proves it.

So I am going to ask in this paper right now to Donald Dodd to please answer my question: How did three people there at the time of the crime and two didn't see anything and one who didn't even know or did not want to tell what time he was there, which had to be around 7:41-7:42 did see the crime?

If I were you, I would be afraid, very afraid of a federal Investigation. If no investigation happens if Gary wins his appeal, call your state representative, senator and anyone else that would help.

                                                                                                                                           September 19-20/16



Buske Book
The book is largely based on secondhand information from the Sheriff’s Department, the District Attorney’s office and family members. The Sheriffs lied, the D.A. lied and the family lied so that basically makes the book fiction.
                                                                                                                                           September 18/16



In order to have cellmates they would have to be convicted of something bigger than a misdemeanor.

The Heidi controversy
I was under the direct impression. Heidi switched her schedule with Sally Brooks. Who was suppose to be working at the Fish on in port Ontario. Either way. There are conflicting stories from Heidi family and the DA office. If she was not scheduled the only ones who would be aware of this switch. Are her family, Brett and DUELLS, in which case Ms. Duell file seems to have been tampered with. Very convenient. No one else would ever have known. Unless Heidi told someone. I very much likely doubt that was her topic of discussion.
                                                                                                                                           September 18/16

Re: Gary Thibodeau and the Other 10,000 a Year Wrongfully Convicted in America


                                                                                                                                                 September 18/16

Re: Whos Lying
We know the Family lied, The OCSD lied and the DA lied.
Since the book is based on information which mostly came from these three sources then the answer to the question is everyone.
                                                                                                                                           September 18/16

It's common sense

Why would Donald Dodd or Todd know more. Hmmm, maybe because they supposedly investigated and prosecuted this case.

No matter what you post. The fact is. They should have known. Both her sister and their dept. All have different times,

ones clearly lying. I'll bet it is not Lisa Buske, but the DA office that was said in 1994 to be out of touch with the public

and their mistakes cost human lives. They were also in trouble back then for many different reasons. From lying, to

prosecutorial misconduct. If you read the old news. You'd be well aware of their tricks. I highly doubt her sister is bull

shitting anyone in her book. But I do not doubt that the DA office did a ton. Many people do not agree with your

questions as to how could Dodd or Todd know. Well in order to prosecute this case you'd think they should have.

Ridiculous remarks.
                                                                                                                                           September 18/16



Heidi often offered to work on the holidays.
Regarding Easter Sunday, another employee Sally Brooks, and Heidi, were willing to work; initially Ms. Brooks
was scheduled to open, but she had another job that needed her that morning. Therefore, Heidi agreed to open
the store that morning.



The day started like Easter Sunday did in other small American towns. Heidi arrived at work early, anticipating
the time she would spend with family and friends later in the afternoon. She volunteered to cover the morning shift
so a coworker could spend the holiday with her children, even though it meant she would be the only one working at the store.

                                                                                                                                           September 16/16

If She was working for someone else how were Gary and Richard supposed to know this?????

Did Deputy Van Patten drop her work schedule in the parking lot?????


More questions
Why was the first register tape transaction 4:06?
Why does the book say Heidi started work at 5am?
Why does testimony show Heidi started work at 6am?
Why does testimony show Heidi was on the schedule to work that Sunday?
Why is a “story” that another person was originally scheduled but Heidi took over instead?
Why does testimony show Brett left at 6:35am that Easter morning but the book says around 7:15am?
The inmates statements were taken mid-July.
Why did OCSD get the transaction tape from April 2, 1994 on August 11?
Why was Mrs. Duell’s file tampered with on August 12?
Why did Bivens testify at Grand Jury that he was in the D&W parking lot and the only car there was Heidi’s, his first

statement says he went by the D&W between 8-8:30 but his testimony was leaving Oswego at 7:30am, and his

testimony was about witnessing a physical altercation?
How could Richard and/or Gary have possibly gone to the D&W the morning of April3, 1994, taken Heidi to near Gary’s “to talk to her” brought her back to the store before anyone noticed her gone, made a purchase and then kidnapped her with the time between ALL the customers that were there the morning of April 3, 1994?

Final answer-People lied to help get a quick conviction, in hopes of finding Heidi or “getting their man” to placate the community after Mr. Benningfield told the searchers that the kidnapper could be standing there next to them.

Lisa-you did the research years ago. You know part of the Truth….that Gary and Richard are innocent. Do what’s right. You have plenty of support. Stand up to your family and the lying people you have, unjustly, high regards for.
                                                                                                                                           September 16/16

Here is a direct link to the comments Murtagh has made online. The top comment reads.
FBI on case has been on it for years they feel they have the right guy in jail
Posted on Key Heidi Allen witness texts pal: I lied to police about what I know
10/24/2014 10:32 AM
Which is an out right lie. As we are all aware FBI Points to Bohrer. In 1994 they testified then that there was no link between the Thibodeaus and Heidi Allen.
Murtagh also can not deny it was him. Several times. He makes it very clear. It is him.
Please ask john on this he knows who I am ( Rich Murtaugh )
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/12/2014 8:28 PM
He openly admits twice of removing a van from Valley Road in Fernwood. But no ones paying attention.
                                                                                                                                           September 15/16

Murtagh Confirmed
Murtagh confirmed no caddy in his posts online. So where Oakes got that from is beyond me. Murtagh admits and so did Breckenridge of picking up a van at Gary's. But no idea of a caddy.
I believe he said I towed a van from there not a caddie .. Jmo though
Posted on Oswego County DA: James Steen is pathological liar, but not Heidi Allen's killer
10/22/2014 8:33 AM
Don't no nothing bout caddy
Posted on Oswego County DA: James Steen is pathological liar, but not Heidi Allen's killer
10/22/2014 2:55 AM -Richard Murtagh. So if Oakes wants to use a hearsay witness. He should probley listen to the tower, that was there. No caddy. Sorry Oakes. You did lie in your filing. Little or big, it's a lie. You were giving some impression that the Caddy Dodd brought up was disposed of as well. It is not the truth.
                                                                                                                                           September 15/16

Who's lying game!

Time to compare some facts, between the book, "Where's Heidi", written by Lisa Buske, sister of Heidi, and DA Greg Oakes, Statement of Facts, filed October of 2015.

STATEMENT OF FACTS, page 1, SAYS: On Easter morning, April 3, 1994, Mr. Law arose at 5:45 am at Heidi's residence. He and Heidi left the residence at ab out 5:50am, and Mr. Law followed Heidi to the D&W Convenience Store. Heidi drove her maroon 1984 Pontiac Sunbird Station Wagon, and Mr. Law drove his 1987 Ford Bronco. They arrived at the store at 5:55 am.

Lisa Buske's Book says: Chapter 3 "A Time to weep" , Paragraph 3, page 35: As my parents settled into their swivel chairs, Ed sat on the couch while I snuggled into my favorite childhood chair. We heard Brett's black Dodge Cougar pull into the driveway then Heidi's feet skipping through the kitchen.

Chapter 1 Page 26: At 5 am, on April 3, 1994, Heidi opened up the D&W Convenience Store, located at the intersection of State Route 104 and State Route 104B, and her boyfriend Brett came along to keep her company until the store got busy. Brett often accompanied her on those early mornings.

STATEMENT OF FACTS page 1, last paragraph, last sentence, SAYS: Mr. Law left at about 6:35 that morning.

Lisa Buske's Book page 26, last sentence, says: Brett left the store around 7:15 am

Who's wrong? Who's telling a story? What was Brett driving, a Cougar, or a Bronco? Hey Oakes, did you ever check your "facts"? These facts, are very important, maybe you don't know which is true, who's playing the liar game?
                                                                                                                                           September 15/16


RE: Lies more lies Oakes
Oakes is using classic inadmissible hearsay and uncorroborated rumor to bolster LE’s theory of how Richard and Gary were involved?

Did Mr. Neadle testify? Did Mr. Neadle hear Gary say what Mr. Maynes claimed?

Wow, would have expected more from a top LE official. You studied this case for how long? Shame on you for believing/going along with the sham.
Love all the documents you provided in your Statement of Facts, Affirmations, and Exhibits. Can you publicize more? Please!!
                                                                                                                                           September 12/16


Lies, lies, lies
1. Gary "confessed" to 2 inmates.
2. Illegal search of Gary's property that yielded evidence of Heidi.
3. Phone wire taps.
4. Human bones in furnace.
5. Remains in rolled rug of blue van.

These lies are so easily exposed from the documents made public in DA Oaks' filing it's borderline comical that some people still believe them.

Truth, truth, truth

1a. news article 1995-Dodd says inmates did not say Gary admitted involvement. This is corroborated by the inmates' statements, trial testimony, and by more recent interview with a news reporter.
2a. Fahey tells Judge in pre-trial Hearing there were 2 searches of Gary's property. No pre-trial Hearing was held due to illegal evidence gathered and testimony reflected details of items seized and/or sent to FBI lab. Both searches occurred while Gary was incarcerated. First search on or about June 22, 23 when furnace was seized. Second was on or about July 24 when property was searched and 5 cadaver dogs brought to site with no alerts of human remains. There is indication from Oaks filing that the July 24 search was by warrant. NOTE: blue van was on property for all days of searching and evidence gathered from that van was also testified to.
3a. Phone records were subpoenaed for the MA witnesses. These witnesses were incorrect about Gary and Sharon being in MA on April 3, 4, 5 with a broken down Caddy because deputies positively viewed the Caddy at Gary's property during that time frame.
4a. Testimony shows that no human remains were found from forensic testing and bone fragments were more consistent with animal.
5a. Evidence first gathered from Richard's van on April 9, 1994 which showed no evidence of Heidi "ever" being in that van. Evidence showed that van was seen at a car wash after April 9. Piece of rug that was missing since the first search was found on Richards property. Property receipt given to Thibodeau's, forensically tested to reveal canine DNA. Witness statement about Richard and Gary seen disposing of a rug in the woods with Heidi's remains was proven false by evidence that Richard was working at the time and no physical evidence that Heidi was there (law enforcement physically went to location). Testimony shows that evidence was taken from the blue van during the search on or about June 22 that did not link to Heidi. Testimony from recent Hearing shows that after August 1994 when the blue van was junked, there was no evidence of Heidi in a rolled rug that was in the van.

Questions that should be answered:
Why is there a 40 minute gap between Brett's testimony of leaving the D&W and the time the book says?
Why did law enforcement and family say Heidi wasn't a CI when a Sergeant recognized her as a CI?
Why wasn't the bulk storage Heidi file boxes made available to Defense?
Why weren't the fingerprints from the index card used in conjunction with the notebook fingerprints?
How did Mike have a fax statement of Bivens with the Oswego County DWI unit phone number?
Why was the first time on the register transaction record 4:06?
Why did Brett testify in Gary's trial that Heidi wasn't afraid of anyone in particular but in Richard's he mentions Matt Duell?
Why does Dodd affirm during a pre-trial Hearing that he was withholding information and wouldn't say what he was withholding if he was going to make "the entire OCSD file" available to Defense?
Why wasn't the fact that Sharon and Richard were acquitted of their charges relevant to Gary's Appeal in 1999?
Why wasn't Wheeler reprimanded for lying during a pre-trial Hearing?
Why isn't Pietrowski being held accountable for missing texts?
Why does Todd keep lying to the public?
Why doesn't Oaks do what's right in the miscarriage of Justice?
How could Heidi's family stand behind law enforcement after all that has been made public?
Why was Jennifer the only recently named given a polygraph?
Why is law enforcement covering for convicted criminals when 3 dogs indicate in an area related to the boasting of several criminals?
Why was an excavator brought to the cabin site without the medical examiner present?
When will the Appellate Division begin hearing oral arguements?
Why was it not relevant to Gary's jurors that several witnesses admitted during trial to misconduct by law enforcement in relation to their written statements?
When will the insanity of "Justice was served" end?
Who will be the first to "tell the whole truth and nothing but the Truth"?
Who will man-up and answer - WHERE'S HEIDI?

Compare the theory of Gary and Richard being involved in the disappearance of Heidi and what is known as Fact and compare that to the recent revelations.....#FreeGary.
                                                                                                                                           September 11/16

Lies more lies Oakes
This is how bad the DA office adds to words from Witnesses. Read #179. Bold faced lie. Oakes directs you to exhibit 12, as proof. He says that Roger towed a van and a CADILLAC off Gary's property. Exhibit 12 from Mr. Needles. Says no such thing. He only says that Roger and David Maynes towed a van off Gary's property and Gary was passed. David was bragging about getting arrested for trespassing on Gary's property. Well, if the old junk van sat on Gary's property for over ten years. And it did not run, move, and was never owned by Gary. But the DA wants to give the picture this van could have been used and David and Roger disposed of it. Please, explain why Gary would be pissed for them disposing of what Oakes would like to believe was evidence, or the possible van used. Give me a break, I'm certain if it was, he would have been relieved they got rid of the evidence. Oakes, you sir, are the dumbest DA in this country. You also claim that Kidnapping/murder/disposing of a van across the country lines has a five year statue of limitations. Murder DA jokes has no limitations nor does the evidence in its case. Disposing of evidence with possibly a murdered teen, disposed of in Canada, has no statue of limitations. You sir, must truly think the citizens of Oswego are morons. See attached comments, exhibit 12 and Jokes statue of limitations of five years, to help protect a convicted Murderer Steen. I do not know which ones more psychotic. Ocsd, DA office, or these suspects.

                                                                                                                      September 11/16


To Oakes
It can't be simple. Either way. You do not think outside of the box, let alone inside of it. Richard or as your exhibit 12 mr. Needles calls him Dicki Murtagh actually plastered across the internet one night, that he and a employee did haul a van out of Fernwood, off valley road at a red house. Now this red house was very Good friends to Michael Bohrer. It couldn't be Oakes that they covered their ass by moving a van off Gary's property. So they could move this second van on Valley Road. And say it was the van they moved off Gary's. Oakes you can not possibly be that stupid. It's common sense. In which case you lack a shit load, I believe you should track down Mr dicki and request he explain the white van they removed off Valley Road, in Fernwood, for Roger Breckenridge. Around the time of Heidi. If you need a copy of those messages. They can easily be supplied. You also cannot claim it wasn't Murtagh who posted them. A reporter called him out online confirming it was indeed Richard Murtagh.
Omg please no mistake we (3 of us) picked up two vans at gt house ... Me roger & a 3rd person picked up a dift van in fern wood I can't tell you where it was but I'm sure I can drive right to there like I did last week going to Gary's house ( that I had only been to twice before in the 90's
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:25 PM
It was a red house is all we can remember
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:17 PM
I'm sorry I don't I'd just be guessing but one of my helpers just asked me if I remember going to fern wood to get a white van at 1st didn't remember but after talking a bit I do now
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:08 PM
No in fern wood ( I think that's how you spell it
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:05 PM
Omg I don't know I just remember him coming to me wanting me to pick one up for him .. Never gave it much thought till tonight talking it over with my staff
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 10:55 PM
You all ready for this one ????? I do remember going with RB to fern wood to pick up a white van that he had to junk back around same time of the ha deal
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 10:52 PM
Copied right from Syracuse.com, I think you need to start using the laws set in place that were meant to help victims. Not protect murderers.
I'd also explain to Dickie, those involved. Do not get the reward money.
Is there still a cash award up & if so how much is it .. What you got to do to receive it ty
Posted on Judge in Heidi Allen case reverses decision, will allow DA to respond to wrongful conviction claim
9/19/2014 5:48 PM
Pretty sick Murtagh plastered that across the internet. Then requests the reward money. What a great guy. With zero conscience.

                                                                                                                                           September 11/16

Mrs. Duell testified about the register tape, items purchased and time...??
It strikes me as odd that "The time had to be entered into the memory of the cash register. (Tr. 1488)."

Could it be possible that the register tape was...manipulated when the deputy went back on August 11, 1994 to get the register tape from April 2, 1994? Mrs. Duell's OCSD file was tampered with on August 12, 1994.

RE: Questions to be answered
Deputy Curtis testified in the original trial that the money from the register was deposited in the bank. (DA's Statement of Facts does not state this.)

-Sergeant Lortie specifically calls Heidi a "confidential informant" and recognizes her name from working with the ACT team.
It appears his involvement with the case after this report became limited?

-Family, LE and Dodd's denial that Heidi was a "CI".

-Neither VanPatten nor Mrs. Duell notify Heidi or the family of the information dropped in public.? (Thinking they may have considering Brett would stay at Heidi's work until customer traffic picked up.)

-The informants card, photo, etc was "lost" from the time of the Heidi Center move until it was "found" in bulk storage within OCSD on May 16, 1995.

-Pre-trial Hearing Judge's acknowledgment that Dodd was not going to say what he was holding back as far as discovery.

-No mention whatsoever from either Defense or Prosecution during Gary's trial that Heidi may have been a confidential informant. Dodd didn't carry the card, photo, etc...to the original trial? There were 2 prints on the card taken to the Heidi Center right after the disappearance but LE used notebook prints instead? One would think the prints taken in a controlled manner would be more relevant?

-Mrs. Burr recently signs a statement about Heidi's involvement with LE in an informant capacity up to a short time before her disappearance. Brett's recent dialogue with Oakes about Heidi being afraid of a "coke-head" that lived near the D&W.

**"Good arrest, good conviction"....PPPfffttt**

                                                                                                                                            September 9/16

Lorti Report

“Writer and VanPatten returned to the store and were informed that Inv. Scruton could not locate C.I. file for Allen. VanPatten was Allens contact for ACT Team so writer asked VanPatten if he turned the file over to Inv. Scruton. He did not recall Allen as a C.I. in 1991 until writer reminded him. VanPatten then called the office and had someone check his mailbox. The file was located and relayed to the crime scene.”
Sgt. Lortie’s report 4/27/94

When you see the date of this report 4/27/94 you have to wonder if it was the original or a revised report. Otherwise why would it take 23 days to get it done.

I think everyone knows cops will not rat out other cops but honest cops will not take a hit for crooked ones either. If you ask an honest one to give a statement or testify they will often tell you the facts as they happened. They will not volunteer anything someone in authority has to ask. In many cases those in authority know or suspect the answers they will get so they do not ask the questions, i.e. Watergate and Serpico.

At any rate that just may be what is happening in the paragraph above. After 23 days Sgt. Lortie has had time to think over what has been going on.


VanPatten somehow manages to lose Allen’s picture ID card indicating she was an informant, and he does it in the parking lot where she works.


Three years after working directly with Allen as a Confidential Informant he tells Sgt. Lortie he does not remember her. Then in the next breath VanPatten knows exactly where to find Allen’s missing C.I. file.

At that point someone should have been asking VanPatten to account for his whereabouts on the morning of April 3/1994.


re Timleine
According to testimony from Brett Law, he left the store at 6:35am BUT according to the book “Where’s Heidi” page 27, Brett left at 7:15am. Which is it? It makes a VERY big difference. 40 minute difference. The difference between the inmates being truthful or not.
According to the timeline, there were no customers between 7:20am and 7:38am. That would leave 18 minutes for the “confession” to be true.

It takes about 16 minutes one way from the D&W to Gary’s house.

                                                                                                                                            September 8/16

Questions That Should Be Answered!

Sunday, April 3 1994 @ 2:00 AM was the beginning of daylight savings time.

Was every witness interviewed asked if they were referencing their recollection of time based on standard time or had they set their clocks ahead and based their statements on savings time????

“The first entry on the tape was 4:06 when the cash register was turned on.”
“When Heidi arrived at work she set the time on the cash register”
“The detail tape then showed three zeros and then gave the correct time of 5:55 am.”
Therefore Heidi “started her drawer at five minutes to 6:00 am.”

If Heidi was setting the time on the register because of daylight savings time Then the register should have shown the time as 4:55 when it was turned on.

Why was it at 4:06? AM? PM?
Did the register keep the correct time?

“6:16 am no sale entry on detail tape (Tr. 1515)”
Nine minutes before her boyfriend Bret Law left the store
someone hits the no sale button presumably to open the cash drawer. Did anyone balance the money in the drawer with the sales listed on the tape? Was all accounted for? If the answer is yes then what was the reason for the no sale entry?

At 5:45 Bret and Heidi wake up.
At 5:50 the two get in a car and drive to the store.

Are we talking about a couple of average teenagers or is this Wonder Woman and Superman?
Come on, who do you know that wakes up from a sound sleep, gets dressed, brushes their hair, maybe teeth and puts on makeup and is out the door in five minutes?

Scientifically impossible
If you actually looked at the timeline.
At 7:41 stitson arrives, at 7:41 a man cashes out he buys one pack of smokes and two newspapers. At 7:41 Stitson describes the store clerk missing. At 7:42 Richard shows up buys smokes. In the mean time. The 7:41 customer packs his smokes in his car, watches Richard enter and exit the store. Mean while stitson in the store waiting on the clerk, as Richard passes him, cashes out and is never seen by Stitson. As Richard cash out time was 7:42. So the kidnapping didn't take place from 7:41 -7:42 it took place between 7:43/7:44. At 7:45 a cop was on the scene and at 7:45 a van is seen in the town of Mexico ten miles away. By science you'd have to be traveling over 150 mph to make it in two minutes to where the van was spotted in Mexico. The time line is scientifically impossible. How does Heidi, the newspaper customer,Stitson and thibodeau all appear on the scene together. No one saw Gary or Heidi being taken. How do you travel 150 mph, on snowy roads?
                                                                                                                                            September 7/16

Here's another exaggerated example of OCSD, AND DODD.
SOMETIME between 7:30 / 7:45 a.m. umm not. Richard never cashed out until 7:42 a.m. the van was seen three minutes later at 7:45 a.m. we know she had cashed Richard out at 7:42 a.m. So between 7:43/7:45 is the only time that van could have been spotted in Mexico. Two minutes. Use a speed converter online you are up over one hundred and fifty mph, they'd have been traveling to be in Mexico at 7:45 a.m. Dodd did nothing but cross witnesses with other witnesses and confuse everyone with so many times, dates and so many witnesses. He messed up. Four people would have been on the scene. Not just Richard or Stitson. But the man whom bought the two newspapers clearly says he sat in his car for a minute and watched Richard exit the store. So that would have taken place after 7:42 a.m. we can determine these times due to the cash register receipt and the evidence Dodd entered in court on his time line of events. Which none of it adds up. There was no 7:30 a.m.to 7:45 a.m. Richard had not cashed out yet. So if the van was seen between these times. It clearly wasn't Richards van.
                                                                                                                                            September 7/16

Bobby Wheeler

April 14, 1994-Bobby interviews Dan Barney "at length" but doesn't take notes or record the interview.?
April 14, 1994-Gary becomes "prime suspect" in briefing which Bobby attended.
May 19, 1994-Bobby receives fax from MA police about Gary's warrant.
May 25, 1994-Gary arrested on the warrant.
Late July 1994-Bobby and Herb interview both inmates.

April 18, 1995-Bobby testifies at a pre-trial (Huntley) hearing that he didn't know Gary was a suspect before his warrant arrest.
May 1, 1995-Fahey files pre-trial Motion, in part, to request sanctions against Bobby for lying during the pre-trial Hearing (Huntley Hearing).
                                                                                                                                            September 7/16

Re:Gary Thibodeau
Whoever you are supporting Gary Thibodeau and ripping apart the filing from the DA, outstanding. Some things you posted. I missed. Keep it up. They deserve any humiliation that comes their way. If the community cared about their environment and the sick things the DA and Officers in that county have done. They'd have a better community and safer community for themselves and their families. Instead the majority doesn't stop to smell the roses. If they did. They'd realise they do not smell so grand after all. It takes a big person to not only help, but to spend time paying attention and caring about others. Many have helped. Many still are. I can not wait to see these aholes from Oswego face the lies they've dished out for years. I can only imagine how many other cases they have botched to get a conviction. Dodd was told then you have zero evidence. He will be told again, in supreme. How awful a person they all are for incarceration of an innocent man. Dodd deserves prision, Oakes to be removed from office, sheriff Todd deserves to be a greeter at wal Mart. Petrowski deserves a set of cuffs. Wheeler prison, along with any idiot officer that helped go along with the bull shit in 1994/1995. I pray that they all have repercussions they can not stop. They have put many people through abuse of power. That's exactly what they used to get any convictions through that made zero sense. Gary deserves more than just his freedom. Hopefully with good citizens like you Gary will gain just that.
                                                                                                                                              September 3-4/16

Gary Thibodeau

What is wrong with this timeline found at the end of Oakes’ Statement of Facts filed during the Hearing?

No other customers at the D&W between 6:35am that Brett testified to and a customer, Mr. Wiltse at 7:38am? Why do notes from the Exhibits show there WERE other customers that made purchases between those times?

If Heidi was scheduled from 6am to 3pm, why is 4:06am first reported on the register tape if Heidi didn’t arrive until 4:55am(excluding the hour of DST)?

This timeline Can Not be accurate but was presented at Gary’s trial.


                                                                                                                                                   September 2/16







Today's  Quote  September 1/2016

 “Too much agreement kills a chat.”
Eldridge Cleaver

Oakes and Dodd, including Todd
They are not dealing with a small town attorney. Lisa Peebles is a powerful person. If anything happened to Gary, it does not mean any of this is going to stop. Gary asked Lisa if something did happen to finish this case. To clear his name and to bring Heidi family the truth. So no matter what they do. This is not going away. Gary's case will hit supreme court and national news. It's far from done. It has only just begun. Oakes is simply a coward. He questions the integrity of the sheriff dept and the investigator but stands by the fraudulent case. Then you got Todd who says he had very little to do with this case back then but stands by a case he seems to have had very little to do with. But a whole lotta say on what's factual or untrue. Wouldn't be because his brother helped Dodd prosecute this case. Couldn't be to much pride, based on nothing but lies. Pathetic. Supreme court on Gary's last case. They made it very clear. That just the diary wasn't enough to over turn the conviction. Many cases have been over turned for far less and many have had probes in to the cases and activing investigators, and DA office. Gary will go home. It's just a matter of time.
                                                                                                                                                   September 1/16


Today's  Quote  August 31/2016

“If you don't think too good, don't think too much”
Ted Williams

I hope Garys lawyer files a big fat lawsuit on the county when all this is over.
                                                                                                                                                   August 31/16

Gary Thibedeou
What is the Oswego Sheriff hiding? This case was a giant miscarriage of justice. Let Gary free before he dies in prison.
                                                                                                                                                   August 31/16

I think that has been the plan all along. Oaks keeps waiting until the eleventh hour to file documents. He and Dodd hope Thibedeou will die in jail and that will be the end of it all. This whole thing has the same stench as the Tony Pauldine trial and the get-out-of-jail-free deal that was given to Smegelsky.




Today's  Quote  August 30/2016

“If I were dying my last words would be: Have faith and pursue the unknown end”

Oliver Wendell Holmes Sr.


Gary Fiasco

Re Todd, Moody, Oakes, Dodd
"After twenty years I can't believe I have to tell you there is another van. " Wescott
"If you look in to reports of a van watching the video store CLERK in 1994 you might find information on the van." -Bohrer 1995 FBI statement.
"I asked Murtagh if I had hauled a stolen van used in Heidi kidnapping." -Steen
"The van we hauled off Gary's property sat out there for over ten years." -Breckenridge
" I do recall moving a van for Breckenridge back then off Valley Road. -online statement from Richard Murtagh
"Steen and Roger were talking about getting rid of the van, I was afraid Roger would go with Steen. She left came back. Roger left early that morning his ex wife says.
Ocsd, and the rest of the bafoons also have Stitson there on the scene by their time line as Richard and Gary would have pulled off this crime.
There was a scratch in the panel of a bath room wall. On the interstate headed towards buffalo. The said Heidi Allen was a rat. Hmmm wonder who was using the interstate towards Canada. Maybe the fellas junking the van. Just a guess. This will all be exposed, in supreme.  Jennifer Wescott was given repeated chances to tell the entire truth. I think even her chances are up. Such a believer in God Jennifer was during the hearing. She better start praying.

                                                                                                                                                         August 30/16


Dear Todd, Oakes and Dodd
If Dave Stinson was at the D&W from 7:41-7:45 and Richard bought cigarettes at 7:42 plus kidnapped Heidi, why didn't Stinson see the crime?

Never mind, it'll come up in the appeal trial.
                                                                                                                                                   August 28-29/16


Time line at D&W doesn't make sense: From the DA Statement of Facts.
7:41 Stinson arrives at the D&W
7:42 last transaction on register...Richard bought cigs.
Stinson must have entered the store just after 7:42 between 7:42 and 7:45.
7:45 Stinson waves down Deputy Curtis 3 minutes after Richard left. How could he not have seen Richard taking her?

Stinson was there from 7:41 - 7:45 when he flagged down the Deputy.

Richard bought cigs at 7:42 and left presumably with Heidi Allen and Gary kidnapping her but Stinson didn't see him.

So Stinson must have entered the store after Richard left and no Heidi.

Why didn't Stinson see Richard kidnap Heidi, he was there one minute before the last sale at 7:42 which we are told was Richards.

7:45 Mrs. Fabin sees van swerving behind her in Mexico
7:48 Brittany Link sees Richards van at Garys

So that means Stinson didn't see him but he was there.
Richard drove from the D&W at 7:42 to Mexico and then to Gary's all in 3 minutes.

Who was there from 7:42 to 7:45 when Stinson waved down Deputy Curtis?
How could this possibly happen?  Why isn't there a time for when Bivens went by the D&W in the DA's Facts? He said he didn't recall  telling a deputy that he dove by between 8-8:30 and saw 2 men abducting Heidi....impossible, Stinson said she was gone when he entered the store at about 7:42.

There's something really wrong going on here.

                                                                                                                                                       August 25/16


Watch key witness in Heidi Allen kidnapping case take lie detector (video)


                                                                                                                                            May 11/16









Today's  Quote  May 6/2016

"Religion is the opium of the masses."
Karl Marx


Do You Want This Guy Spraying Hazardous Chemicals

In The Parks Where Your Children and Pets Play?


Council Poised To Reconsider Herbicide Vote
Council awarding contract to fireman's business, ???????




                                                                                                                           Jan 11/16



Neither the Federal nor the State governments

have ever mandated that the City of Oswego

raise its water or sewer rates.

Anyone who says they did is a F**KING LIAR!!!!!!








Today's Quote  August 6/15

“It's your life. Live it with people who are alive. It tends to be contagious.”
Peter McWilliams


Oswego Firefighter Sentenced

Last night in Minetto Town Court Oswego firefighter and former Minetto fire chief Joe Smegelsky Jr. received the maximum sentence of $1000 and two years probation despite arguments from the District Attorney Greg Oaks and defense lawyer Timothy Kirwan. They had hoped for a lesser sentence but based on information in Smegelsky's pre sentencing report the maximum punishment was handed down.


An audit by the State Comptrollers office found that Smegelsky had taken funds and used a department credit card to purchase a handgun, automotive parts and assorted items. He also created a fictitious company which sold fire equipment from undisclosed sources to the Minetto Department. District Attorney Oaks repeatedly argued for special treatment because Smegelsky had paid back slightly less than half of what the Comptrollers office found. However the fact remains he paid nothing back until he was caught.



Joeseph Smegelsky Jr.


Below is a copy of the District Attorney's plea bargain and his explaination of how they arrived at it.

If you enjoy fiction you will love this.








Today's Quote, January 26/15

"I am not an enemy of the negro, we want him here among us; he is the only laboring class we have."
Nathan Bedford Forrest


One week ago we celebrated Martin Luther King Day. I am sure members of the Ozwego Fire Department seized the opportunity to rack up some double overtime but that is about the only use they have for non-whites.

Since its inception in 1876 the Oswego Fire Department has been as white as the driven snow, with respect to the color of its members that is. In its 139 year history there has never been an Asian, Black or Hispanic member. If you think this somehow reflects the population then you better take off your blinders. Oswego’s elected officials and Personnel Department have long allowed department members to live as far away as Montour Falls, Watertown, and Groton. There is no way you can cast a net that far and say, that population is reflected by our department.

In the late 1980’s there was young Black man working for the local cable company who sometimes frequented the Fire House Tavern as did members of the OFD. The firefighters exam had been announced and he was asking some of the OFD members if they thought he had a chance of getting in. He received all kinds of encouragement while he was there but after he left I overheard two of the Heroes chuckling and say no way they were going to let him in the department. “We have Guinias and Polocks and that is as integrated as we are going to get.” I do not know if the man ever took the test but the fact is that department remains as segregated as the day it was formed. They are allowed to operate as their own little fiefdom picking and choosing their own white membership and no one has the balls to put a stop to it.

The next time our Senators and Congressmen come around for their photo ops with our Hero Department we should all point out to the national media how they are supporting a racist organization. Perhaps we should ask the NAACP how this has been overlooked by their organization for so long.
                                                                                                                            Jan 26/15





Joseph Smegelsky


Audit of Minetto fire chief charged with misusing $22K in funds for guns, motorcycle parts completed
"This individual had keys to the cash register and went on a spending spree with the fire company's money," DiNapoli said in a statement.


                                                                                                                    Dec 20/14

Today's Quote, July 2/14


“Thieves respect property. They merely wish the property to become their property that they may more perfectly respect it.”
G. K. Chesterton


Oswego's finest screwing the taxpayers once again spotted at Dicks Sporting Goods in Great Northern Mall on 6/22/14.....didn't know they sold food there....or were they perhaps getting a new set up clubs at our expense??? Would still like to see the tab for the turning stone "conference" they went to....a whole weekend at the turning stone??? meals, rooms, drinks, etc???? The worst part is it will never change. No matter who is mayor they will always be controlled by the f.d. and no one will run against our current council members. Oswego has become homeowners to few (I stand corrected good homeowners) and is a city full of renters.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14

That was probably just Smegelsky picking up some guns. They should be checking the video at Dicks to see who was with him. That hero should be arrested too.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14

Minetto Chief
People like that are paranpiod about someone else stealing what they just stole so naturally he would need to get a gun to protect all his or should I say our stuff.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14


Ambulance Numbers

Yes, they are not as correct as they should be as I left off the 2 additional firemen that go out on Ambulance #2 and many of the other expenses that can be attributed to the ambulance service . In reality here is a $300,000 loss each year without he expense of a new ambulance. The point is, we will never make a profit on this service; have a fully qualified ambulance located in Oswego (Menter) that can handle all emergencies; could cut 15 men from the department with all their benefits and return $2,000,000 to the taxpayers; while cutting the long term obligation of retirement and the padding of such for years to come.
Unfortunately, the obtuse Mayor, Council, and most of all ,Fire Chief, have another agenda and it is not in the best interest of he taxpayers. McCrobie probably was, at one time, a good fireman, but as a chief and leader lacks in total credibility. The way overtime is handed out only shows that he is helping to bump up he retirement of the soon to retire firemen by thousands of taxpayers dollars. There is a belief that hey will all get their turn is the OT merry-go-round, but the fact is, the tier 6 firemen will never see that benefit. The new anti padding law passed and signed by he governor will not allow tier 6 employees to add any more than $15,000 to their retirement benefits, and they will now have to go for the last 5 years instead of 3. If I were a tier 6, I would tell the tier 5's to stick their $50.00 they pay for the OT and start taking their share of the OT, because it will all be ending when all the tier 5's retire.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14

Minetto Fire Chief
I asked a few weeks ago if anybody knew what was going on with Minetto's Fire Chief well here you go.
Stole $20,000 from the fire department. I'm going to guess he possibly stole more since he's being held with no bail. Coinsedently though he just bought a piece of property behind his own for $20,000. Don't believe me? Here's the property taxes. Coincident? You should take a drive by his property to check it out. Constantly cars & trucks are being 'stored' there and then disappear. Camper was there for a whole summer now that's gone. I even seen the Minetto's fire truck pull up to his vacant property hook on a utility trailer with all the fireman in it and take off. Now Minetto Fire Dept has plenty of property to store at their station. Why would they use his? I offend wondered why a property owner who only has 1/4 acre of grass need a 0 point turn lawn mower? Probably the fire departments.



                                                                                                                    July 2/14




Reporting Welfare Fraud
If you suspect, or have knowledge of a social services client fraudulently receiving assistance from Public Assistance, Food Stamps or Home Energy Assistance (HEAP), you should report it to the Office of Temporary and Disability Assistance.




Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force 



Secret Service Electronic Crime Task Force




RE: Oswego Corruption
Here are some places you should send your complaints.
Do not waste your time with the county DAs office.

Office of the State Comptroller

Division of Investigations
59 Maiden Lane
30th Floor
New York, N.Y. 10038
212-383- 2502



Office of the State Comptroller
Division of Investigations
110 State Street

Albany, N.Y.   12236-0001


New York State Office of the Attorney General
Public Integrity Unit
120 Broadway, 22nd Floor
New York, N.Y. 10271



New York State Reigonal Office of the Attorney General
615 Erie Boulevard West, Suite 102
Syracuse, NY 13204
Phone Number: (315)448-4800

Consumer Frauds Number: (315)448-4848
Fax Numers:
(315)448-4853 (Main Number)
(315)448-4851 (Consumer Frauds Bureau)
Office Hours: 8:30 a.m. to 6:00 p.m., Monday thru Friday

United States Justice Department
Organized Crime & Racketeering
James Handley Federal Building
Syracuse, N.Y. 13261

Federal Bureau of Investigation
James Handley Federal Building
Syracuse, N.Y. 13261

New York State Police
1220 Washington Avenue
Building 22
Albany, NY 12226-2252


New York State Police
Fulton, NY

6 East 12th Street,

Fulton, NY 13069



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