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Today's Quote October 22/20

No one does anything from a single motive.
Samuel Taylor Coleridge

Elon Musk's satellite internet plan gets green light from Canadian regulator


October 22/20

Stolen Cat
Approximately 4 years ago our beloved cat was taken by a psychotic neighbor and killed? This is what we were led to believe anyway, since then we have been made aware that she may have been dropped off in the area of East 7th and Utica. Many posters were put around town including the Animal Shelter. .
We have NEVER stopped loving or missing her and would be grateful for any information concerning her.
Please contact the editor of this site if you know something, anything concerning our Megan. Thank you in advance!

Also....You can't tell in the pictures, but she has two small black freckles on her nose.

October 22/20

Donald Dodd
- did you keep evidence from the defense
- why did you lie to lisa Pebbles
- why did you grunt when Matt Mulcaey asked you about the case evidence
- did you say the phone call taped between roger and Tracy didn't amount to anything...are you F***** serious??????????????
- why oh why did you have to railroad Gary
- did you know about some deputies selling coke?

and finally why did you take the oath to become an attorney???????

October 22/20

Property tax in iOswego is highest ever

October 22/20

Re Timeline
Would dodd or oakes care to tell us how Mr. Wiltse saw (supposedly) Mr S. arrive at the store, park perpendicular per his testimony (TT 1216) at 7:40/41am but Mr. S testified he parked parallel and closer to the end of the store (TT 1225) at 7:41am?

Got it!! Doesn’t matter as long as someone can testify as to possible suspicious movements of Richard’s van. Details are insignificant. Those kind of details don’t paint a good picture or make for a believable story, now do they? Like I said, the prosecution witnesses contradict each other. But ‘something’ they said was truth. No wonder the jurors were not having such an easy time with a verdict!!

October 22/20

DS replies:

to 'Timeline addition' posted Oct 21/20: D&W to Gary's house in 6 minutes?
You're absolutely right.
On 5 Dec 1995, Brittany Link recanted her Court testimony.

October 22/20




Today's Quote October 21/20

No man is above the law and no man is below it:

nor do we ask any man's permission when we ask him to obey it.
Theodore Roosevelt


Trump Suffering From Covid Confusion

Sadly the raving looney president has confused the light at the end of the tunnel with the flashlight Melania lost while masturbating.


October 21/20

High Dose Flu Shot
I received a high dose flu shot at my doctor's office at the beginning of the month.

October 21/20

See for yourself, lying DA

Hmm, I suppose greg didn’t know about this dissenting judge Before his press conference. Lol. What a joke!! “all the judges that looked at this case.” Psychology lesson: words like ‘all or never’ may indicate that the speaker is lying. Seeing the news article from the same community that is directly involved with the case, greg IS a liar. Oh, don’t be fooled. This isn’t the only ooppsie lie this DA told.


Oh look at that, another 3 judges that thought he should get a new trial.

So please explain how ‘all’ the judges that looked at this case didn’t see any merit to overturn? Right? Exaggeration, aka a lie, to make your argument. It’s harmless though. The only thing greg, you can hope for is that the people who think You are correct don’t look into this case for themselves and just believe the crap that comes from your mouth. Seriously!! Did you even say one complete thing that was the truth about Heidi disappearing or the criminal case?

Priceless! That Matt Mulcahy called greg out and he responded with more twisting of facts. What would possess someone to have the little boy balls to publicly say ‘complete absence of’ forensic evidence in Richard’s van when there is clearly court testimony on the contrary? He had to have known that BEFORE the interview? He should have known that when He Refreshed His Memory of trial testimony as he was preparing to fight to keep Gary imprisoned. Can’t even try to convince me that you didn’t know what Matt Mulcahy was going to ask. And if you didn’t, this is what you came up with? Instead of, “I’ll have to refresh my memory.”? I know what happened, you just believe that old dolt of a (former) Sheriff. You believed that guy that wasn’t involved much in the investigation (from court testimony).? HAHAHAHA…no wonder you’re called J’Oakes. I bet Heidi could have figured out the bs you’ve spread, unlike…..say a teacher or someone in the education field. But wait, weren’t Richards jurors 50% or more teachers? What did one juror in Richards trial say, ‘It was bullshit that the van was cleaned.’

Speaking of teacher…where did Heidi’s sister even get the idea that people during the initial investigation were afraid to come forward with what they saw? Don’t really care about Facts, do you? The witnesses certainly didn’t want to for the hearing. But they summoned the courage and fortitude to do so. Even if they were nervous, embarrassed, threatened, intimidated. They came forward that Gary wasn’t guilty so where are the ones for he is? I know what happened…Take Mr. Pierce.

He was coming forward with the mindset that Gary was the one he saw even though he testified that he drew a beard on a photo of Gary from the news in 1994 and thought it was close enough. What happened when he saw the photo of Steen after he murdered his wife and cousin? Mr. Pierce is no longer credible because he got the weather wrong? (P.S. Many witnesses from the original trial describe the weather slightly differently. Guess what? None of them describe it as sunny or overcast) What about Heidi cousin that had information about Mike Bohrer? Sure, let her testify judge, but we want to let everyone know she had dismissed charges from over 25 years ago. Oopsie Martha-just curious why your husband would work a deal with Heidi and the police yet Missy had charges? You favored Heidi, didn’t you? So judgmental!! I digress with the personal questions. Got it! Martha is the family lead except when it comes to publicity; then it’s the soft spoken Heidi’s sister. Nothing wrong with that except that she is trying to make a name for herself on her sisters back. Do you feel righteous? Just so you know, (to no one in particular) all the good deeds on Earth will not get you into Heaven if you have a black heart!!

October 21/20


The Michigan Army
The Michigan army wearing masks while protesting at the "wear masks protest."

October 21/20

Flu shot
Go to Walmart Pharmacy

October 21/20


Have You Seen Our Megan?

October 21/20

Let me start with-Why isn’t 4:06am first on this timeline? Is that irrelevant? Methinks it is relevant if Heidi had to change the clock for DST. Hold on, this timeline is from greg so we can be fairly sure that at least some of it is a lie.

Remind me again how the inmates could be credible? How does it make sense: They said Gary told them that he took Heidi from the store to ‘near his house to talk’, Richard brought her back, made a purchase (which was rung up) then kidnapped her? Where exactly would that fit into the timeline and theory?

So we just disregard that part of their testimony which dodd mentioned in his summation as to what happened to Heidi? What you believe though, is that Gary said that she was not alive (which others in the community came to the same conclusion-look at news article) and that he said that he didn’t kidnap or kill her, and supposedly said that if he did he would have used a shovel and burned and dismembered her? Still, what part of that was True to connect to Gary? There was no ‘army type shovel confiscated from his or Richards property/vehicles. There was no evidence that Heidi was in Richards van. There was no evidence of human remains; either forensically or canine indications on Gary’s property.

Even though Sharon was given immunity because she was facing perjury charges, we still believe she lied? What about the other witnesses that testified about Richard’s movements? What about the prosecution witnesses that couldn’t ID Richards van at Gary’s on April 3, 1994? If they weren’t mistaken that it was Richard’s van then why couldn’t they be mistaken that they were remembering Richard picking Sharon and Gary up to search the weekend of April 9, 1994? What about the witness that heard a man and woman yelling from Gary’s residence? What’s that supposed to mean? Ahh, speculation! Yes, got it! Gary and Heidi were yelling at each other in Gary’s house just before he killed her. Yes, she would have been fighting for her life, but again, no sign of her in his house/on his property/remains in the furnace.

Can’t we just accept that just because someone is arrested doesn’t mean that they are guilty or ‘the prosecution just didn’t have enough to Prove but they are still guilty”? According to LAW, everyone is Innocent Until Proven Guilty….by beyond a reasonable doubt. That means a person can be ‘Not guilty’-the legal verdict AND Innocent. They can be “Not guilty’-the legal verdict but really did commit the crime. They can be “Guilty”-the legal verdict an truly guilty. OR they can be “Guilty”-legal verdict but Innocent. If you seriously think that No One can be Guilty but really innocent then I’d suggest you don’t look up the statistics on the National Registry of Exonerations. Maybe that’s good for you to be ignorant and gullible. They say it’s bliss.

Timeline addition
Forgot to mention this:

Heidi wakes at 5:45am and makes it to work at 5:55am on Easter Sunday? Yea OK. 5 minutes for an 18 year old young lady? I beg to differ that those facts are highly unlikely considering Mrs. Duell’s testimony about talking with Heidi about wearing a hair net or hat that day. What do you say Brett? Reconsider you’re testimony?

Hey, greg. Did you even speak to Darlene Upcraft yourself or did you find it irrelevant because her affidavit was not for the correct time period? Oh, I see that greg still believes that Neville Sr. is the one who went to the store the morning of April 3, 1994.

Oh, Richard makes it from the D&W to Gary’s house in 6 minutes. Lol.

Sorry, your timeline doesn’t contain enough Facts to show any kind of proof that Richard or Gary or both kidnapped Heidi…but that’s just my thoughts.

October 21/20

Either way whoever wins the people lose .our politicians are such scum they're whores
some more polished than others
If there’s ever an honest one they are either idiots or neutered and their votes are irrelevant if they’re smart and decent they usually don’t last long in politics because they get out
Enrollment at the college is down 15% from a few years ago and on a graph it’s dropping dropping if they close the college it’s gonna be a pretty sad state of affairs
Maybe when they close the college the 700 acres can be turned into luxury condos or section 8 housing whatever they call that
Sent from my iPhone

October 21/20

Oswego Dmv
So, my dad went to the Oswego DMV a few weeks ago. Theres 2 maskless Sherriff's guarding the door with shit eating grins...and this is reason number 366 as to why Don Hilton needs to be voted out!

October 21/20


Oswego County Health Department Investigates COVID-19 Exposure At Oswego Pit Stop Convenience Store https://oswegocountytoday.com/oswego-county-health-department-investigates-covid-19-exposure-at-oswego-pit-stop-convenience-store/lead-story/


October 21/20



Today's Quote October 19-20/20

Men willingly believe what they wish.
Julius Caesar

Don’t Write-in for County Clerk!!!
The information Mr. Terry Wilbur is sending out is misleading at best. Yes the Gov. has the right to appoint someone to a vacancy in the County Clerks office.
Has Gov. Cuomo every supported the Democratic party in Oswego County before. NO…even if he did there still would be a special election next year.
He cannot appoint someone for a 4yr term.
If he is misleading you now just think what he will do if he wins on a write campaign. He is a true politician.
Vote Vote for Mike Backus…force a special election where we the people will have a chance to ask each candidate questions about the running of the DMV and other business at the County Clerks office.
We can ask about the elimination of long lines, long wait time and empty tellers station at the DMV. Force a commitment and hold the elected party to their word.
If there is no special election, we will not have a chance to ask these questions.
No Write-In’s,
Vote for Mike Backus.

Frank Castiglia Jr.

October 19-20/20


Flu shot

Has anyone been able to get the high dose flu shot recommended for people over 65 years of age. Our Dr.’s office still didn’t have it as of 10-13.

October 19-20/20


'It is serious and intense'. white supremacist domestic terror threat looms large in US

October 19-20/20


donny rump doesn't believe in science... it just saved your life you lying pos....and that's too bad!

October 19-20/20


Rump's mental health and the Easter Bunny conspiracy
This follows Trump's refusal last week to repudiate the QAnon group and his slanderous retweet of an outrageous conspiracy theory that claims Osama bin Laden is alive and Biden and former President Barack Obama might have had SEAL Team Six murdered.

HAHAHAHHAHA if he has a mental breakdown I hope they show it on Pay-Per-View.

October 19-20/20

Another theory-another suspect
What if Mike Bohrer, while out drinking at various bars the night of April 2, early morning April 3 (which he admits to), got drunk and made a poor choice like he did in WI? Would that be considered a similar MO greg? Or no because Heidi hasn’t been found?

What if her kidnapping was not necessarily because of the drug angle but just that he is a sick fuck? Got a stupid idea while drugged-up and targeted Heidi?

Wattyasay Brett, was Mike the person Heidi was making a sandwich for at 6 something in the morning? Why, though, would he admit to the things he did that may eventually cast shade on himself? Were the investigators that blind to anyone else besides the Thibodeau’s? And if you look at the timeline, some of the things he admitted to BEFORE Gary’s trial and others per the Hearing. HHmmm, interesting. HHmmm, just because Mike didn’t pick up his mail does not mean he wasn’t in the area. He was preoccupied doing other things. Like following around Gary, bar hopping, interviewing people, setting up shop near the Heidi Allen Search Center. Much too busy to get mail!

October 19-20/20

Hey Hilton,
Mary-Anne Montgomery O’Reilly, you know the witness who’s testimony at trial was struck by the Appellate Division in 1999, no one has considered trying to find a 90’s picture of Mike and his bro or Mike and the Herm guy Mike claims he was with that night and showing THAT to her? You think it’s fair or proper to show witnesses only photos of the suspect and/or suspect vehicle? Oh right…..they are all connected-Rog, Steen, Mike. Got it!! Do you know what Amanda Lynn’s Law is? Have you ever heard of a law against the improper disposal of human remains?

You can still do something about the case. Heidi is missing, the Sheriff is out (By Golly, YOU ARE THE SHERIFF. Dodd has immunity anyhow and prosecutors rarely face the consequences of their misconduct. What is to gain by finding Heidi? Hello…so the very members of the community who toiled/agonized with trying to help find her/raise funds/grieved with the Allen’s can have their closure!! THE TRUTH!!!

The police, prosecutors, judges represent “US” not just victims or victims’ families. Unlike Jennifer, I would do your job for free. Wattyasay, open the files for the public at an arranged time?

October 19-20/20

Live coronavirus found on frozen food packaging in China

October 19-20/20

Samuel Paty murder: French police raid dozens of Islamist groups

October 19-20/20

Anti Brindisi Ad
Looks like the actors came right out of Honey Boo Boo and Duck Dynasty🤣🤣

October 19-20/20

There were a lot of people who believed in you. The things you said were true. There was no accountability or integrity within the Sheriff Dept. Because of that honesty many thought you'd come in and apologize for the corruption by the good ol boys and promise the community these thing's would never happen again. The issue is without truth or justice to the Thibodeau family and the Allen family and a promise of a new investigation, nothing will change. Gary's case will never go away. It does need to be addressed. There is solid proof of laws being broken. If the Sheriffs. This new Sheriffs office can not do it, then it should rightfully be turned over to those who should have handled it from the get go, the NY State police. The corruption in this case needs justice. That's the first step to change, without that admittance of what past officers have done, and an apology there will never be an ounce of integrity hiding secrets within those walls. Secrets that took the life of two citizens. Maybe more.

October 19-20/20


Gary's Case
Greg, when Dodd was cornered by Matt Mulcahy over the missing file. Why didn't you give a public apology for lying about this entire case. Are you claiming Greg that file, you, yourself have never seen and if you have you seen it and never turned it over to Peebles, shouldn't you be charged with misconduct and abuse of power. You too lied to every court Gary's case went in front of. Its been proven. You abused your authority and your law license should be stripped from both you, Dodd and Moody. You all deserve prison and we all know it.

October 19-20/20


Uncle Joe Police Target


October 19-20/20




Today's Quote October 18/20

Where there is no vision, there is no hope.
George Washington Carver


How many minorities are employed by the Oswego police and fire department?
Asking for a friend.

October 18/20

Voter fraud, trump was right but named the wrong party
- California the republicans are using unofficial ballot boxes
-Kentucky. A contractor found 112 ballots in a dumpster...another RED state
- Texas. Gov. uses only one ballot box per county....another red but soon to be blue state. Keep screwing the people, they won't forget.
- Postal worker in GA. threw away ballots...another red state.
- No reports of this happening in any blue states.
Stay tuned.

October 18/20

Idiots that think virus is a hoax
200,016 people dead in the U.S.
- One million dead in the world
- Pharmacutical Cos working for a viru
- Schools and coleges closed.
- Businesses closed
- 900 dead health care workers because trump wouldn't buy PPE.
- The entire world is infected


The guy in Ohio went on the internet in May and said that. He caught the virus and now is a box in the ground.

October 18/20

greg to dick: ‘Well, you know, dick. There was a blue van on Gary’s property.’ How well did you look in it before you stole it?’

dick: ‘You know, now that I think about it and talk it over with Dawn….there was a rolled carpet in it.’

greg: ‘How well did you look at the carpet?’

dick: ‘Didn’t really care to. Only cared about what we could get for scrapping it.’

gerg: ‘You say you and your sister, for sure, are commenting and following the syracuse.com articles?’

dick: ‘Yea. Amanda keeps saying there was no van on Gary’s property.’

greg: ‘I recall a property photo showing a blue van, white trailer and white Caddy on his property. Amanda is lying. The blue van is the one Gary and Richard used to kidnap Heidi.’

dick: ‘Wow. I’m going to comment about the blue van.’

greg: ‘Go ahead. How can anyone challenge that fact?’

dick: ‘I did say tell about the blue van and white box trailer. But there is someone who knows that there were 2 searches done on Gary’s property before we took the blue van and white box trailer.’

greg: ‘They are right about the searches. Keep with the theory that the blue van was used to kidnap Heidi and she was in the blue van when you stole it. Maybe you could get Dawn or your sister to back you up so people will believe you. Oh, be sure to comment anonymously and don’t use anyone else’s name.’

dick: ‘Ok. I don’t think it worked though because the anonymous person is shooting down everything we say.’

greg: ‘That person must be on the defense team to know the things they do. Oh, wait, they could possibly be getting their information from the court files in the clerk’s office. But who would want to do that? Only someone who is obsessed or truly involved. Say that and see what they say.’

dick: ‘I would have been quiet if someone said something like that to me, but that person keeps going.’

greg: ‘Could be Tonya. Keep calling me. I’m also hearing from Todd and Barney who are following the articles. Let’s see what we can come up with to get this person to shut up.’

greg: ‘Heard from the others about the commenter. They agree that this person knows more than the average public would. They must be obsessed. Can’t remember who, called the person Bohrer Jr. And yet they still come out with facts. The moderators will ban commenters for being disrespectful. See if you can get that person banned. Flag their comments.’

dick: ‘The person who I think is Tonya, doesn’t really say much in the way of disrespect but they have been flagged loads of times.’

greg: ‘Good. Just a matter of time before they are banned.’

dick: ‘I try not to say anything directly to that person. Whoever it is takes over the conversations. Are they telling the truth?’

greg: ‘Truth doesn’t matter now. Keeping Gary in jail does. We don’t care what the public thinks. Let’s try to keep the exposure of what Vannpatten did down. Heidi’s family just wants this court stuff done…move on with their life.

dick: ‘Finally. Syracuse.com has shut down commenting on their articles. That person just wouldn’t give up. They knew facts. It could have only been someone on the defense team trying to make dodd look bad. I’ve heard that someone is posting legal documents on oswegonylion.com. I don’t want them talking about me or my family.’

greg: ‘Write to the editor and see if they will stop posting those fake documents. Where did the person get them from anyhow? Has to be from the defense.’

dick: ‘That fucking editor posted Beth’s letter. He must believe that the documents are really from the case and doesn’t care if someone mentions our name. Now I see handwritten notes from dodd about Baldasaro’s deal, pathology reports, police notes.’

greg: ‘Yes. Those are documents really from the case. But it doesn’t matter now because Judge King has already ruled in our favor. Even if there is a dissenting judge, we’ll try to stall in hopes Gary dies. If he dies, the legal case dies. And we will have gotten our man. I’d also recommend not responding no matter what they say. They should give up if nobody is entertaining them.’

dick: ‘I want to sue them for mentioning my family’s name. They have made you and us look like fools.’

greg: ‘You have already garnered enough attention with your court antics, just let it go. Don’t respond. Don’t even look at the site anymore. The case is over. You aren’t in trouble. No one is in trouble. Where do you think Beth got, ‘if no one talks everyone walks.’? It’s true. Do not ever admit to anything.

Disclaimer: Based on actual events. For dramatization effects, the names and scenarios have been altered slightly so as to not identify any of the participants.

October 18/20

Elon Musk says SpaceX's 1st Starship trip to Mars could fly in 4 years

October 18/20




Today's Quote October 17/20

Some people have greatness thrust upon them. Very few have excellence thrust upon them.
John W. Gardner

If Gas Stations, Insurance Companies, To Name a Few, Can Go To Work...
then why are polictians not wanting to do the jobs that they were elec. to do !

All Phonies, and most of them are under 6’-0''

October 17/20

Term Limits Means Limits
Pres, Gov, Senators, Reps, Mayors, Ag, gone after Limit , Period !
The Voting them out of office does not work ! Only creates greed !

October 17/20


Got To Ask...
how come Nancy Pelosi was not concerned about Obama in his eight years ?

October 17/20


Oswego Board Of Education
Should there be TERM LIMITS on the Oswego Board Of Education ?

October 17/20

Term Limits On...
School Board Members and should the taxpayers decide the School Superintendent ?

October 17/20

Please Tell Me Why..
.. people run for public office when they have money, and turn out to have more ?

Please tell me , Gov. is suppose to work for the People, when did it change that the people answer to the Government ?

October 16/20

Sports Fields...
… who’s paying ?

October 17/20


I did Not Know That ...
… all these Politicians where suppose to serve until they die !

The Gov. is suppose to serve the people, but the politicians have it the other way around !

And also , not every person in Oswego County is 5’-9” tall, white, male , went to public school , so , go piss on your self !

October 17/20

Daycare reported income
Daycare and babysitting are different , and is there TAX PAYERS DOLLARS INVOLVED ?

And is there a Husband paying alimony, health, car payment, babysitting ( double dip ) and collecting a income , while Taxpayers keep paying for this fraud !

And this is a Rental Property, and you tax payers pay for this , !

I guess , that most Voters are under 5’9”, white, and under the age of 98, and had some kind of teaching from their parents !

October 17/20

Can anyone name any redeeming quality that our local representatives possess?
Please civil servants do not comment as you depend on these scum for jobs

October 17/20

Repeat, repeat
I am mighty confused about the shovel admitted into evidence and Deputy Kleist’s testimony about the shovel:

He confiscated a round nosed shovel from Gary’s residence on July 24, 1994. Did not perform any testing on it. TT 3061 BUT somehow an army fold-up shovel with ‘muscle tissue’ is thrown into the story. There really is no connection, is there? It’s a red herring to try to bolster the prosecution’s theory by making the inmates appear to have some corroborating ‘evidence’?

There was no pre-trial hearing for suppression of evidence (which happens when ‘evidence’ is obtained illegally). What accounts for the army shovel being in this case?

LOL on cross by dodd for rebuttal of Kleist. He didn’t ask him about a folding shovel. Skipped right over that. TT 3088. I gotta keep reading to try to understand how there was beyond a reasonable doubt that Gary was guilty. Let’s see what lies dodd comes up with in his Summation.

October 17/20

army shovel in 1994 What? What?

October 17/20

With a crime rate of 37 per one thousand residents, Oswego has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 27.

October 17/20

Inspired by Mike Todd
Since he's not too keen about the "What if" Everybody did it' on this site about Heidi's disappearance......I'd like to present a theory. Now it is based on some testimony and speculation so it's valid?

Mike, I'll ask you. Have you at least read the prosecution witnesses' testimony for the original trial? OK probably not because you don't care that Heidi has been missing...

Anyhow, do you recall years ago when someone posted regarding the original transcript that Brett assaulted his former girlfriend? Yea, I bet you thought that was bs? Jokes on you, buddy, because now anyone can read it for themselves because the transcript is online. HHmm, Bohrer described that Matt Duell would basically try to rape Heidi. Brett answers question arising from a specific question about Matt. Oh. Never mind. Heidi's family wouldn't want the public to know that information.

HHmmm, just curious, Mike. Would it be too much of a stretch to think that Brett had something to do with Heidi's disappearance? Nah, that testimony came from the defense questioning so let's just disregard that. I don't know if I could bring myself to NOT think he was involved after learning how he treated my sister (via people who came forward and signed police statements, watch, those can be posted too) nor the thought that he was hiding something because of his comments to the media. I wouldn't doubt, though, that Brett learned to be a better man to his women!

October 17/20


addition to the army fold-up shovel and police notes about the soot piles.
This should clear things up.....There was no human bones or 'organs' in the soot piles (and was testified to the same).

Hey, Oswego DA's Office and Sheriff Department...let me refresh your memory. Now where did this shovel come from if it wasn't confiscated from Gary or Richards property? (Do I have to post Kleist's testimony because you think it is bs that he said as much?) Huh, WHERE???? All public information, pals. Except WHERE did it come from!! Can I look through the Sheriff's file of the Heidi Allen case without being harassed or having to jump through a million hoops? Probably not because you have a bias against me.


October 17/20

Stinson replies:
No, I have not read the entire transcript. But to answer your question,
The short statement of facts paraphrases & cherrypicks.
The full court transcript is Great. Thanks to the poster.
In some cases it supports my statements and testimony: (After all these years.)
I truly believe that I arrived at about 7:41. (My time) It was raining. I explained the money on the counter, who searched the store, and I waved the cop in.
In my original statement I said, "I was at the store about 15 minutes before the police"
Originally officer Curtis said he was waved in at 7:45 (tr 1422) but on cross examination after reviewing it, he agreed that he was waved in at 7:55. (tr 1471) [This correction wasn't in the statement of facts]
Harold Wiltsie:
He set his clock to 7:35 at the New Haven Methodist Church and drove to the store.
Q: Harold, to the best of your ability to approximate, approximately what time did you go inside the store, approximately?
A: 7:38 or 39. (transcript 1199)
Why the 3 approximations in 1 sentence? [This wasn't in the statement of facts.]
Wiltsie was "ASSIGNED" the 7:40 purchase on the register tape. Close enough!
I think the cash register was a little fast compared to Wiltsie's or my clock.
Which is why Heidi was gone at 7:42 - when I arrived at 7:41 - My Time.
Both Wiltsie (tr 1191) and Swenzkowski (tr 1225) agree it was raining. [not in statement of facts]
Some other people got the weather wrong. And still do. It's a litmus test.
Msg to Tonya: You spelled my name wrong in your new book, and got the weather wrong.
My original statements are posted on this site.
Control F Stinson on the Allen Thibodeau page.

October 16/20

Japan to release 1m tonnes of contaminated Fukushima water into the sea

October 16/20

Let more anti western a -holes in!
Man stabbed in the throat in Paris suburb, a suspect shot by police
By REUTERS OCTOBER 16, 2020 20:02
A man died after being stabbed in the throat in the Paris suburb of Conflans St Honorine and the attacker has been shot, a French police source said on Friday.
It was not immediately clear if the attacker had died, the source said.

October 16/20





Today's Quote October 16/20

The evil that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones.
William Shakespeare

City of Oswego continues to spend our tax dollars foolishly

OYC eminent domain lawsuit by the city!! Really! How does one charge eminent domain on property that you own. Caraccioli is so incompetent that he thinks this is something the city can do and is willing to spend $50,000 to hire Barclay Damon law firm, with an open ended spending account, to bring it to court on something you can not legally do. Barclay is happy to take on the issue and kows he will proably make $100,000 on a case the courts will dismiss as stupid. Caraccioli should be fired and they should take his law degree away from him. Reall; it took him three (3) times to pass the bar exam and then he just qualified by a few points over the minimum score.
I can not believe this council is allowing this kind of spending on such a foolish issue. That old coal tressel is never going to attract any visitors. It is a totally foolish endeavor and a total waste of our tax dollars. Get rid of that ridiculous city attorney and hire a real lawyer.

October 16/20

Yet another GOP move that favors big business but not you

I have an infinitesimal knowledge of the Justice System, though I’m learning…..

What legal argument could dodd have possibly had to object to the property receipts given to Richard and Teresa for the carpet piece that was found on their property out of the van after the first forensic testing on April 9, 1994? Without those documents being admitted the jurors could not use the physical documents in determining whatever it was they might need it to reconcile? They would only be able to use the words of testimony from the witness? I’m referring to People’s exhibits 42-46. Phew! We wouldn’t want people to question the prosecution or law enforcement about that fact. It’s only the Truth!!

BUT, even with ALL the testimony from several people, including law enforcement, how could ANYONE still believe that Richard’s van had any part in kidnapping Heidi?

Mr. Stinson, Have you had the opportunity to read the entire transcript? Care to share your thoughts? How has the opinions and documents posted over the years compare to now, being able to read the entire transcript for oneself?

October 16/20

Hey Barlow
Hey Barlow, all this crap about protecting pedestrians is a bunch more of your bullshit. How does helping pedestrians involve having them have to walk in the roadway...bridge street at that. There is bo where to walk in front of the pimple poppers building on west first and bridge. And why is there a construction lift blocking the entire sidewalk in front of Garafolas? And why is it we have police cars that have headlights out? You see a blinding light at night just to see its a police cruiser with a light out. This vehicle is out every night. How much more bullshit can you feed these oswego tax paying idiots. If youre paying what most people are paying in taxes, water, sewage. Then, you are an idiot. All this money going out to Barlows friends is bullshit. He gives his sister the city clerks position. Are you kidding me. Must all be to help out mommy and daddy since they dont have a business anymore. Yes oswego, you are supporting the Barlow klan...yes, i spelled it correctly! They are racist! All a ruse. Everything! When the patrons of oswego, yes patrons realize this and get him out, you will have to sell your homes because the taxes are coming!

October 15/20

Japan unveils new submarine in face of China's growing assertiveness


October 16/20




Today's Quote October 15/20

The actions of men are the best interpreters of their thoughts.
James Joyce

Desperation, Katko Is Thy Name

Katko and his republican handlers are flooding the TV with attack ads full of half truths and lies just like the ones spewing from Trumps mouth.

Must be he is just as desperate as Trump. Win or lose, by the end of their terms thousands more Americans will have died thanks to their incompetence and indifference.


October 15/20

RE: BarLOW advertising to help businesses that lost power last week
You do know that National Grid is the one paying right? Not the city,
the city offered help filling out the claims :0)-- read before spouting hu

October 15/20



October 15/20





Today's Quote October 14/20

Since a politician never believes what he says, he is quite surprised to be taken at his word.
Charles de Gaulle

Texas and corruption
A judge just ruled only one drop box per county

This how the Nazi republican party is....suppressing voting.

Keep voting republican...the rich and the corporations will thank you.

October 14/20

3 weeks out to get a vehicle registered and put on road. You have got to be kidding me. Really unacceptable, how about longer hours or some night hours to help out.

October 14/20

RE: Todd Sue

He would have to prove some kind of monitary loss. Since he's like the fifth generation of Todds living off the taxpayers there is no loss.


October 14/20

Thank you
Thank you for the witnesses who came forward despite the gravity of police corruption and witness intimidation.

Thank you, greg oakes, for filing the documentation and partial transcript pages that fit your agenda. You have been an inspiration, but not like a pat on the back, “You did an awesome job defending the conviction.”, inspirational manner.

Thank you Alex Peebles and underdogsports.com for making the entire transcript more readily available for ANYONE to read for themselves. Thank you to those who continue to tell about Heidi’s disappearance.

Thank you, editor, for posting what has been made available to you.

Thank you Lisa Peebles, Randi Bianco, John O’Brien and whomever else assisted with the exposing the Truth!!

Most Of ALL, thank you to the people we now know to be liars. Let me be clear (another lesson), there is a HUGE difference between those who knowingly, continually tell stories that are false and those who have the mental/psychological capability to change their opinion when faced with hard data/unbiased Facts.

If YOU want to know the unbiased Truth about the investigation of Heidi’s disappearance, the accusing of Richard and Gary Thibodeau or the trials, look it up for yourself. You don’t have to tell anyone you did. Make up your mind for yourself instead of the lies that have been told for 25+ years.

Ouch, todd, dodd, oakes, family…must have really hurt to see documents that contradicted your beliefs being posted for anyone to read!! Which was most devastating-the handwritten note from dodd about baldasaro’s deal? The fact that the van was seen at the car wash several weeks After it was forensically tested? The police report from 2 deputies seeing the Caddy on Gary’s property on April 4? The interview of the minor child seeing a police officer shoot Heidi? The affidavits from 2 people claiming responsibility for disturbing the area off Rice Road before the reporter or former investigator arrived? The forensic report about no human ‘morphological details’ in the soot samples from Gary’s property? How about the police notes detailing 2 searches on Gary’s property Before dick murtaugh, his future wife and rog breckenridge stole a van off his property? Or specific trial transcript pages of witness testimony being posted (received from the Oswego County Clerk’s Office)? They were all fake, though. Right todd? How about the false evidence of the army fold-up shovel that wasn’t even connected to the case?

Something I’m still having a hard time grasping…………Maybe the asshole investigator pietroski can answer Scratch that, let’s hear from the liar wheeler or herbie….How did LE go from searching Richards van and finding nothing to link to Heidi to calling Danny Barney ‘probably suspect’ to the next day listing Gary as prime suspect? YOU weren’t cherry picking from bad members of your community, were you? Trying to find the best case to get a conviction?

For the Truth, Google search ‘Heidi Allen Documents’, also images. See investigative (real investigative) materials made/obtained by law enforcement. Don’t simply ‘believe’ someone when there is proof available.

October 14/20


BarLOW advertising to help businesses that lost power last week
stoop to any and all means possible to fund his friends
so now he’s advertising so that his friends can ask for money because they lost power in their businesses I wonder who it’s going be interesting to see who got what !
another excuse to give his friends money

October 14/20

'Jet fighter' godwit breaks world record for non-stop bird flight

October 14/20

West Wing cast reunites for special performance to promote voting drive

October 14/20

The sewer we call Texas
Watching the Johnny Frank Garrett doc. a lawyer for the Innocence Project said to be a politician in Texas means you have to be a pretty a rotten person..he' right.

The Governor won thru the corrupted courts thereto limit one ballot box per state.
This is how the GOP works down and dirty.

The only time they care about people is in a election year...period.
Trump declined to give kids free lunches at school but now is doing so because he needs votes.

He didn't hesitate to give the rich and corporate america permanent tax breaks.

Kids and he couldn't care less.
Dejoy took the high speed PO machines to parts so they can't be used. Another GOP jerk trying to suppress the voting process.
The USPS has to get more efficient so he takes out the machines.

Are we going to become the next Russia?

All around the country the republicans are trying to suppress voting.
And the preach the constitution .

I hope the the trump empire falls apart and the republican party with him.

Just dirty can a party get.

Remember the want to kill the ACA because they said it is too expensive for the american people

Since when has the GOP cared about the people?

If you vote republican and the destroy the ACA and you get stuck with a health ins. policy that isn't worth dirt or too expensive...you are to blame.

October 14/20



Mikie Todd Sue ................ What For?

He is a big dumb slob even more so than his daddy. When he was a baby I think Moe came home from the casino one night and dropped him on his head. To start a suit he would need money which he hasn't got. If you might be thinking he could get his uncle to take the case don't worry. The uncle is as dumb as Moe. He got the judges job because he was a failure as a lawyer.


October 14/20





Today's Quote October 13/20

You must never be satisfied with losing. You must get angry, terribly angry, about losing.

But the mark of the good loser is that he takes his anger out on himself and not his victorious opponents or on his teammates.

Richard M. Nixon



Mitch McConnell

I watched the debate with Amy McGrath and Mitch McConnell tonight. His main reason why people should vote for him is if he is not re elected Chuck Shumer would be the next leader in the Senate and Kentucky would no longer get the undeserved tax dollars he is able to get for his state just because he is in control. What a crooked, bitter, pathetic, old man.

October 13/20



Jesus Christ. This DA is such a liar! Does he not know how to read? The vote to overturn was split 4-3. Since when does that mean “all judges that looked at this case” decided no evidence was withheld to overturn. I suppose the news article posted a few days ago was also not the truth.

So which was it, dodd? Did the judge ALLOW evidence to not be turned over or did you give the defense “all documents” from the OCSD files? Stupidone, that can’t happen simultaneously. One or the other-Common Sense. Common Sense will tell you that dodd held back his file. Which may or may not have been exactly what the Sheriff department had in their files.

Yes, Cuomo. Be AG. I’ll ride him like a brahma bull ‘til something is done about the corruption with Heidi’s disappearance. You don’t think a deputy dropping CI information in a public parking lot and not telling the family or ‘victim’ about his incompetence is not corruption? Yo Hilton, have you done anything about the asshole deputy giving a citizen the name of a witness. Investigation 101, didn’t hear of that witness being gang assaulted? What was done about the bitch admitted to assaulting a minor? Here’s a little English lesson:


cor·rup·tion | \ kə-ˈrəp-shən \

Definition of corruption

1a: dishonest or illegal behavior especially by powerful people (such as government officials or police officers) : DEPRAVITY

b: inducement to wrong by improper or unlawful means (such as bribery)the corruption of government officials

c: a departure from the original or from what is pure or correct the corruption of a text the corruption of computer files

October 13/20



Trump Attempting To Rig Mail-In Voting With Fake Drop boxes
Trump’s Republican Minions in California and other states have partnered with the catholic church to manufacture and distribute Conterfeit ballot drop boxes through which they can collect and manipulate mail in ballots to favor Trump.

Fake Ballot Drop Boxes In Southern California. They're Not Legal.


October 13/20

The problem with any prosecutor becomes a judge a politician they look at the situation and black and white they look at people as perps and victims that’s a problem to try to eradicate bias and objectively look at a circumstance

October 13/20

Mike Todd
You boy, are a f++king idiot. I hope you are still reading this site. Hear me you stupid ass, illiterate f**ker. You couldn't even maintain an intelligent dialogue about Heidi's disappearance. So big guy, you going to try to sue me? *Waaaa judge, she called me a stupid ass, illiterate fucker ( wait, you have to think of something better) because I don't know how to read or comprehend the written English language.* You wouldn't try to intimidate me to make me be quiet?

This podcast is Awesome! Not every day that someone doesn't get intimidated by those who are trying to quiet the Truth. Did you listen to this podcast Mike T? You should. Beth can demonstrate how to take a phone call. It was her voice, her foul mouth but it wasn't her....hahaha because she is a coward to comment. Just like YOU, Mike. It's better that way since you are illiterate and will get the facts wrong anyhow. You don't really believe the shit that comes out of your own mouth, do you?

Y'all look and sound like a bunch of bumbling idiots. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Saying nothing just shows how little you know about Truth. Way to go trying to find Heidi!!



October 13/20



Shotgun Shells At Walmart ....... Federal Box Of 100

Walmart is selling 3 inch 12 gage shells in size # 4, #2 and BB. Just the size you need for home defense or putting down a revolution of the Trumptards.


October 13/20





Today's Quote October 11-12/20

The situation of America is new in the annals of mankind; her affairs cry haste, and speed must answer them.
John Paul Jones

Katko has a commercial where he has an actor dressed up like a medical professional claiming Katko helped him get "needed supplies". I can think of 210,000 Americans who were overlooked for a Katko commercial. John Katko did not get them any supplies. He does not even like to talk about them and you damn sure won’t see them in one of his bullshit commercials because they are dead, not acting, JUST FU+KING DEAD, THANKS TO GUTLESS POLITICIANS LIKE JOHN KATKO.



October 11-12/20

oh donny you lied to use after Ping Pong lied to you
North Korea unveiled what analysts believe to be one of the world's largest ballistic missiles at a military parade celebrating the 75th anniversary of the Workers' Party broadcast on state-run television on Saturday.

Trump is a liar, fraud, tax cheat, thief, racists and a person who has used fraud and deceit to make him look successful.

October 11-12/20

Trumps followers
I was very unhappy today to see so many T rump signs going down state route 20 to sharon springs today. I hope it’s just a bunch of rednecks. Because that’s all I see around here . Worried someone will take there guns away. Hopefully there are enough people smart enough not to vote for that brainless idiot. He get crazier all the time it’s not just steroids he is a sociopath.

Once you get out where the busses do not run you find more woodchucks and that translates into more Trump signs. The burbs seem to be full of Biden signs. The important thing to remember is that signs do not vote. Remember four years ago there were not that many Trump signs because a lot of his supporters did not want to admit who they were. We might well see a reverse of that this time in that a lot of former supporters may not want people to know they are dumping him this time around. ……………………………………………..

COVID research updates: Dense cities should brace for long coronavirus outbreaks

The integrity of the GOP
As Trump refuses to say he’ll accept election results, Republicans press to make voting harder


Coronavirus can survive for a MONTH on surfaces including banknotes and mobile phone screens

County Clerk
Seriously " Bucky ". He's never worked a day in his life. Always wanted to be a professional Politician. He used to spend hours up his old mentor George POS Williams ass That was Bucky's idol. That alone is a reason not to let him in as County Clerk. He doesn't have any experience at the clerks office I'm sure he was summer help. Seriously.





Today's Quote October 10/20

When you get to be President, there are all those things, the honors, the twenty-one gun salutes, all those things.

You have to remember it isn’t for you. It’s for the Presidency.
Harry S Truman

Harris said: 'We will decriminalize marijuana and we will expunge the records of those who have been convicted of marijuana [related-offenses]

October 10/20

another lie from the liar
Trump said he cares about the seniors.
He loves them so much he cut HEAP and SNAP which benefits them to live.

Vote out Katco because if we don't your health care is going back to the ins. cos.

October 10/20

Oswego harbor
What good is a beautiful harbor if you don’t trim the bushes?

October 10/20

Than was the first thing I thought.

Walking down Bridge street
How disheartening to see , passed a coughing tattooed faced vicious looking poor excuse for a human being
How is our society moving toward civilization ?
Allowing this welfare state of ignorance.
If people are to receive public funding , this writer believes civic lessons must be the price. Ethics civility going forward or no funding.
The schools are being ruined by this element and it is almost time to admit the system failed.
We need a third political party
Too many republicans do not separate church and state .
Dems decriminalizing pot
Well bully for them it’s about time
Our asshole sheriffs association is why Cuomo couldn't pass decriminalization in the first place
I guess they enjoy seizing cash and pocketing it and cars houses boats etc.
Fuck that
Every sane cop knows pot is a non issue
Most every cop!
But the Obama administration with 110,000 middle easterners a year
That on a lie detector hate USA now thats a plus for the Republicans cheers there!
But government has become so corrupt that new laws need to be passed that sterilize politicians that take advantage of the public trust .
Look at Oswego
Despicable history of corruption
One FBI source once said “If we went after that time we probably have to arrest almost everybody “
Barlow is a fractal,patsy's like hime are probably a repeating pattern of human political cogs just like parts on a shelf at a warehouse
If someone leaves an opening the likes of him will be plugged in to carry on the degenerate agenda of our traitorous politicians. Trump isnt a person to role model but asking the world to pay its own way in defense is a great idea.
Let the EU pay their way.
We are a mess
Its a terrible trajectory civilization is on and there are major problems.
But the Dems funding future dangerous felons isn't going to be helpful.
Republicans allowing neo- nazi white Fascists is worse!
For every immigrant deport a neo nazi to the arctic circle with a speedo and a bar of lead!

October 10/20

Harris said: 'We will decriminalize marijuana and we will expunge the records of those who have been convicted of marijuana [related-offenses]


October 10/20

The GOP and the people they abuse
I find it funny that the GOP says they are for the constitution and for , bye and with the people but don't practice it.

We are now seeing a party hell bent on stopping people to vote.
Just what does the GOP believe in.
It's not anything for the people only the rich.

How th ehell can you take an oath and then turn on it.
In Texas the Gov. reduced many ballot drop off boxes to about 2 in a 1700 sq. mile county ..Houston etc.

He said it is for the protection of the people.
Are there a lot of violent people hanging around ballot boxes?

The GOP is a dirty corrupt party and it is getting worse.

In Georgia they are doing everything to make it harder to vote...especially for people of color.
...what was the oath again?

In Wisconsin same thing.
Just what does the GOP hold sacred in the country.

They are acting like Saddam Husein where ballots don't even matter
and in Russia where Putin always wins

Is this where as a great country is heading?

Trump has divided the country like no other.
He has us being hated by more countries than ever before.
He is acting like a dictator in a democratic country.

And believe me he keep doing it unless we vote him out.

Besides who wants a president that argues with anyone any time.

October 10/20

Whitey Ford, 91, pitcher who epitomized mighty Yankees, dies

October 10/20

My first memories of watching baseball and world series games on TV were around 1956-57 at a neighbor’s house. I believe it was Kate and Oscar Dauphinet on east 11th street. They had just bought a color TV and several of the neighborhood kids were invited in to watch. That was where I first saw pitchers like Whitey Ford, Sandy Koufax and Warren Spahn.

Why did Golden Dawn's neo-Nazi leaders get away with it for so long? | Golden Dawn party

October 10/20

First Amendment
Browse the Constitution Annotated

October 10/20



Today's Quote October 9/20

A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.
Winston Churchill

Are There Still People Out there:

Who doubt the need to keep track of Trump supporters?

Who doubt the need to arm yourself in preparation for attacks by Trump's Nazi militia?

As long as Trump is in the white house we are all in grave danger.



Why isn't the county or state cracking down on these money hungry asshole store owners. Went in to Ktm yesterday not 1 employee wearing a mask and three of them making food. Customers walking in one after another with no mask on. And it's not just ktm it's everywhere in oswego county. Stewart's on the east side is the only one complying with the state mandate. My hat goes off to Frank the manager for doing his job and keeping people safe. Way to go Frank and thank you.

October 9/20

2 years ago but nonetheless


October 9/20






Today's Quote October 8/20

Enslave the liberty of but one human being and the liberties of the world are put in peril.

William Lloyd Garrison







Gardens staff
For as long and my mom has been there, I will never understand why They allow such rude and hateful employees to stay after complaints. My mother has complained about “Jackie” repeatedly and now “Ashley” ... one is a glorified nurse aide and the other is a kitchen slob.

October 8/20

I was at the dmv yesterday and as they make you stand outside until you are called, (the cob webs, and dirt is unreal) you look and it says BACKUS COUNTY CLERK. Maybe he wears a couple of hats, AND THE PERSON IS RIGHT it should be voted on by the VOTERS !!!!!!! Not the same old, same old, must be hands in the cookie jar, and WHAT DOES HE KNOW ABOUT HEALTH< JUST LIKE AVERY !!!!!!!!!!!!

October 8/20

October 8/20

Covita – YouTube

October 8/20

Randy Newman – Birmingham


October 8/20

Randy Newman "Louisiana 1927"

October 8/20




Today's Quote October 6-7/20

The soul that is within me no man can degrade.
Frederick Douglass

More Trump Lies
When was the last time he got tested?
When was the last time he tested negative?
When did he first know he was positive?
When did he know he was in contact with someone who had or might have Covid?

You can ask these questions all day long and he and his puppets are just going to lie to you like they do about everything else.

Here is my two cents and I am betting it’s pretty close to the truth.

1- Trump has been lying about getting tested. He does not like having that thing shoved up his nose so instead of every day he only gets tested when there is a chance he may have been in contact with someone who was positive or suspected to be positive.

2- Somewhere between September 24th and 28th he found out he was positive and told his doctors to keep quiet about it. There are a whole host of reasons for this the least of which would be looking weak or like a fool. More likely though would be the debate with Biden. He was convinced he was going to walk all over Biden and then there was the added benefit of possibly infecting Biden as well. After all he spent most of the debate facing Biden directly and running his big mouth. His failing to notify Biden of possible exposure further supports that idea. Just as compelling a reason to keep it all quiet was the fat-cat fundraiser in Bedminster, NJ. He just could not pass up the opportunity to grab up all that loot.

Someone suggested his diagnosis and trip to the hospital was a fraud. There is no doubt it was all staged like an episode of his really bad TV show but so many other people have come up positive that it pretty much rules that out.

The best part is the number of his cronies and partners in crime that have come up positive too and I especially love the triumphant return to the white house. He stages a scene on the balcony where he takes off his mask and goes inside supposedly to resume his duties. His presence contaminates the whole building. He is refusing to do any contact tracing and all the staff and white house employees have been told not to seek testing or treatment from the white house clinic but rather seek remedies from their own medical people. He is getting best treatment available in the world and he tells all of his staff they are on their own. These people will begin turning on him in droves. The phones at the NY Times and Washington Post will be ringing non-stopped with disgruntled employees looking to dump on that fat bastard.

While dragging him out of the white house for a public hanging in Lafayette Park would still be preferable I would settle for a long drawn out stay at Walter Reed with a terminal outcome. At this point it would be the best outcome for the country. Just imagine how many lives might be saved if he were dead!

October 6-7/20

Stop the Burn!
In August we were told about Mr. Backus leaving his elected position as County Clerk. One that he was attempting to again gain our votes to be elected to in the November elections. Whether or not he knew about his appointment to the Oswego Health position prior to his decision to run for another term as our County Clerk is very important.
Within days of Mr. Backus announcing his pending withdrawal from the County Clerk position Mr. Terry Wilbur announced his intentions to run a write-in campaign for County Clerk. Coincidence ? I doubt it very much.
In Mr. Backus’ terms as our County Clerk he has increased expenditures while revenues declined in the County DMV. Yes he was still bringing in revenues but his profit margin was shrinking. Here are the numbers to verify these claims:
2013-Revenue-$2,253,000 Appropriations-$910,463 County Net gain-$1,342,537
2019-Revenue-$2,145,00 Appropriations-$926,367 County Net gain-$1,218,633
2020-Reveue-$2,170,000(?)Appropriations-$1,090,408(?) County Net gain-$1,079,592(?)
In the years Mr. Backus has been in office his department has lost just in the DMV $262,945 over all in all the County Clerk Dept. he has lost $201,044.
During this time Mr. Wilbur has voted yes to every Appropriation requested by Mr. Backus.
Now Mr. Wilbur would like you to write in his name as County Clerk.
Please “Stop the Burn” do not write in Mr. Wilbur’s name.
Please vote for Mr. Backus forcing a special election next year when two or three candidates may vie for the job and your vote. Make them stand on their merits and votes and answer your questions.
Frank Castiglia Jr.

October 6-7/20



October 6-7/20

Hmmm. Interesting!
These two funny ducks thinks they’re clever. I wouldn’t have been so considerate as to cover their names. What’s they gonna do? File a civil complaint? Do it so more truth can get on the record, you lying sonsabitches. Did they give up spreading the bs when someone stood up to them. Those clowns only think it’s a handful of people that are on to their lies. Haha haha. You guys might have the DA’s, former sheriff and DA sucking your ass (or is it the other way around) but Someone has your number. Good job, incompetent investigators roj and pie, for recording most of your interactions.

I agree with where this was posted. The Feds should have taken over the moment that feminine DA claimed that Heidi was taken to MA. RICO!!

greg is offended that people are smearing the former DA for withholding evidence? Does he look major effeminate to you? That was my first impression. But that really doesn’t have a bearing on his....asking for a friend.


October 6-7/20

From the governor of Texas
"The State of Texas has a duty to voters to maintain the integrity of our elections," he said.
From a guy who closed all but one ballot drop boxes in a county that is heavy for democrats.

If you people vote for Katco it may be the end of the ACA for health ins.

There isn't a GOP health plan except to give it back to the insurance companies...ouch!

Trump lied about as he lies about most things.

Anyone have any proof the the GOP is really concerned about the people?

October 6-7/20

Unreported income: babysitting
God forbid! Someone on “the system” actually subsidizing their income by WORKING?!

How ‘bout this: perhaps……..just PERHAPS we should mind our own business and appreciate that this is a RARE instance where someone may actually be trying to better themselves, support their own family, and maybe even get OFF the system.

If the parties involved are not attempting to run a full blown daycare facility, there is nothing illegal or shady about it.

We are so quick to pass judgement, as though we have any right, on people who’s circumstance we know NOTHING about.

You don’t know what you don’t KNOW, so come down off your high horse and give whomever this is, some credit.

Is there not enough hatred in the world already?!

October 6-7/20

Fluff and drama surrounding the Hearing in 2015
Hmmm. Pietroski? Not that you’ll answer because why should you be accountable to the public?

I’m curious if Beth Murtaugh assaulted the woman who YOU named as a witness in the interview that was recorded? Beth and her girls (because she is a pussy and can’t fight for herself) beat up a woman? Or was that just a nasty rumor that the bitch herself started?

Anyhow, Why The F**k would you give out someone’s name? Unless…….

Is this what Heidi’s sister was referring to when she recently told an interviewer that people where frightened to come forward? She just made the story more intriguing by adding that they were witnesses that saw Gary and Richard-making it seem like witness intimidation right from the beginning? Listen to the interview she gave and draw your own conclusion. Why would someone be afraid to come forward now to (falsely) ID Gary and Richard? She wasn’t lying in that interview, was she? Good/Christian people wouldn’t do That?

October 6-7/20





Today's Quote October 5/20

The unscrupulous succeed best in accumulating wealth.
Rutherford B. Hayes

An Appreciation

October 5/20

How come the is not any term limits on congress and senators ?
Because the Senate and th eHouse would have to vote on it
think they'll vote themselves out?

And the can override a veto with 2/3 of both Houses

Term limits are here....it is called voting.

October 5/20

Hey maybe asshole thats upset about unreported income for babysitters can get a job as a babysitting cop
New position fir the shitheads that run city to create!

October 5/20

2 shit choices
We vote trump he averts terrorists through limited immigrationVery good)
We make the EU PAY THEIR ON WAY (very good)
AGGRESSION (wonderful)
WE vote Biden the EU gets another president to have USA Take it up the ass paying for their defense (bad)
The dems refuse to allow us to join russia (bad)
And china wins and possibly owns the world(worst)
They both suck
No legal abortion w trump (bad)
Less social programs (troubling)
Biden gets declared incompetant then what?(very likely)
Another election with shitty choices kinda like Oswego gov
Only we didnt get a choice
This election offers not much
I fear China, they are smart tough
More physicists than we have citizens
Russia was with the allies in 2 world wars
Its a conundrum
The EU has beautiful trains airbus(Messerschmidt) has been circling Boing
I say God save the queen and fuck the EU!

October 5/20

Our politicians are pigs with very rare exceptions
Self serving rotten soul selling scum

October 5/20


Christie's Secret Weapon







Today's Quote October 3-4/20

The point is that you can't be too greedy.
Donald Trump

Is Anyone Looking At The Babysitting ...
unreported income in the City of Oswego, and have taxpayers pay for there rent, utilities, food , while collecting cash, are they not suppose to be registered with child care ?

And are the landlords suppose to report this ?

And are the Aldermans suppose to be notified of this ?

which in turn , the Fire Dept. is notified of this occupancy of res, if it had to be called out ?

Seems to me that this is a code enforcement, zoning, Fire Dept. , Water and Sewer, Parking , Police Speeding, Busing Pick up Issue !
Let the grammar police begin !

October 3-4/20

Let me guess, you went to public school, you are a white male , you are 5’-9” and your age is 59 !

Care to start signing your name ? Lets see how wide the road really goes !

October 3-4/20

..before each debate and before the swearing in of any pres, vice president, congress and senators , should get drug tested every six months !

IQ and Math should be done prior to announcing the run for office and if they are for term limits !

October 3-4/20

Who Is Going To Pay?
for the Oswego High School Sports Fields Construction, since Gov. Cumo has cut Aid ?

October 3-4/20

Answer The Question And No Grammar Lecture...
… term limits, politics was not to be for life .

How come the is not any term limits on congress and senators ?

And when did you notice the Media only reports nothing negative about the dems , first thing in the rule book , is to control the media, in doubt, listen to don lemmon and chris cumo , and did you hear on c span the senate report about the FLN reports ( thats what the FBI uses to by past the courts ).

October 3-4/20

So ...
..the Dem Vice pres is asked ‘what is the best rapper ‘ instead of what is best for this USA !

October 3-4/20

Got To Ask ?
If a person is in a rental property , and it is Hud and they run a daycare business and a Board of Education lives next door , what should this do ?

After all , this person draws a paycheck on retirement and the spouse stills draws a paycheck, hence they both suck of of the taxpayers, let alone having there siblings living in a house set up for two adults and one kid .

Time for Zoning to get involved, and please forget about the aldermen, they are born with ignorance !

October 3-4/20

trump's Stolen Valor
The president has COVID 19?, BS! It most likely another lie due to his incompetent approach to fighting the disease. Here is the scam: most polling shows that voters are disgusted with his handling of the pandemic and no amount of lies, quack doctors he drags up, or the inane diatribe Kayleigh McEnany spews about is changing the polling numbers. How to combat it? Simple, tell people you contracted the disease, be responsible and quarantine, and then emerge as a victim who has overcome great strife. Can you imagen the spin he’ll put on it. I can hear it now, “I am amongst you at this time, not as for my recreation or sport, but being resolved in the midst and heat of the battle, to live or die amongst you all; to lay down for my God and for my kingdom and for my people, my honor and my blood." Yea right, really it was QUEEN ELIZABETH’s quote supporting her military against the Spanish Armada, but if he dumbs it down and adds a few tremendouslys and fantastics he could pass it off to the trumtards. I sure he’d leave in the kingdom line. Yes, this his way of showing how he’s in the trenches with the rest of the people soldiering on reminiscent of such war movies as “The Longest Day” or “Saving Private Ryan”, but in reality it’s more like a darker version of “Apocalypse Now.” Ah, I love the smell of Egg McMuffins in the morning. A lot of trumptards think that the COVID scam will go away after the election because it’s just a hoax made up by the Democrats to steal the election. Do you think that those dirty dems got to trump and he’s in on the scam? Then on the other hand, if trump really does have it, he and COVID make a great team. – Col. W.E. Kurtz

October 3-4/20


The crumbling of Donal Trump
About a year ago I was thinking about trump and all the crooked things he has done:
- taking inheritance from his siblings
- not paying contractors that worked on his towers etc
- inflating his income and deflating expenses
- filing bankruptcy to avoid paying people
- having a side entrance for the poor people
- etc etc etc

I really thought that taking a such a visible position as POTUS would expose him to investigations, attacks and his past

This may be the end of the trump empire
He has been living off his equity form his property but soon all his debts are coming due
I may even suggest that after he fired the person he put in charge of administering the covid money only after a year and replacing him with one of his friends that they would sneak him a lot of money...we shall see.

Have we all determined that this guy is for me, myself and I.


October 3-4/20

That whole family is no damn good. I hope the virus kills them all.

RE: Fried dough
You tell that to the people that are always waiting in line at Villa Pizze Fritte at the Great New York State Fair. The lines are long at time. The fried dough is some thing else on its own. Whether it is good for you or not there is no better fired dough anyplace in the Syracuse area..

October 3-4/20

Oswego yacht club sues city
The mayor and his gang
Who is his gang?
And maybe Broadwell can get yet another 10 million
Fiddle the construction costs
And buy more in Lauderdale or somewhere
The yacht club
Is a quiet neighbor and apparently
BarLOW is told to think how much money is in this for his fiends!
Dont forget that the yacht club are private citizens !.But this city doesn't care about the people !only themselves
Who isn't a yss man to barLOW
And how do the neighbors who sleep at night feel about this important development of the mayors ?has anybody from our news
asked the neighborhood people door-to-door anonymously to comment!
Anybody asked neighbors
The club has had a long history of being very symbiotic in that neighborhood,during Harbor Fest probably had a little noise in their neighborhood but other than that it’s been a pretty live and let live quiet situation .there are people that have lived there for most of their lives that might not enjoy a big development that’s going to have loud noise late into the evening chronically forever during the warm weather. that’s a residential neighborhood.

October 3-4/20

PalTimes yacht club
Has the administrations propaganda machine at our illustrious local newspaper asked any of the citizens in the neighborhood how they feel about losing the yacht club and gaining this $12 million development I thought the money was more in the line of to fix problems that happen from the lake being high?

October 3-4/20



Yes Donald

There is a virus.


October 3-4/20

Egypt police ‘using dating apps’ to find and imprison LGBT+ people
TRAINED BY THE NAZI’s that fled after ww2


October 3-4/20

The United States Has Repatriated 27 Americans from Syria and Iraq, Including 10 Charged with Terrorism-Related Offenses for Their Support to ISIS


October 3-4/20

City of Oz needs to restructure get outta insanity
The overhead is too high
Lets start over
Ask state to take over

October 3-4/20

October 3-4/20

To the asshole that ran over the cat and didnt stop that will HAUNT you the rest of your life. You know who you are , it happened between Duer and 10th st, on UTICA where if you are not going 40 you arn"t going fast enough !!!!!!!! Besides there are never any policing in this area anyway, HOPE THIS HAUNTS YOU FOREVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!

October 3-4/20

FBI Releases Movie to Alert Americans of Foreign Spy Threats

October 3-4/20

3,333,333$$$ City spending money that they do not have
Once again the fiscally irresponsible city of Oswego spends more money to further burden the taxpayers.
Stop the madness !They don't care that people have to repay this money!
Sh—t can these jerks!

October 3-4/20

This guy is out of control..trump the egomaniac
The Agriculture Department last week began mandating that millions of boxes of surplus food for needy families include a letter from President Donald Trump claiming credit for the program.

October 3-4/20

Oswego Code Enforcement, a waste of Oswego taxpayers money

October 3-4/20

Soviet spy who foiled Nazi plot to kill allied leaders dies aged 93 | Espionage


October 3-4/20

Child Molester
Congrats to those sipping COCKtails and singing at Curtis Manor last night. Owned by Oswegos prolific boy toucher Pauldine (Paladino) not 300 meters from the Oswego Middle School.
Just shameful

October 3-4/20

NYS Comptroller Audit: Up To 50% Of NYC Bars And Restaurants Could Close Permanently In Next 6 Months


October 3-4/20

Covid crisis could force extra 2.5m girls into child marriage

October 3-4/20




Today's Quote October 1-2/20

Two roads diverged in a wood and I - I took the one less traveled by, and that has made all the difference.
Robert Frost

Stinson clarifies:
The post on Sept 29/20 was not from me.
My last post was on 26-28/20
thanx - DS

October 1-2/20

Worst: Fried dough
While trans fat can be tasty, it raises bad cholesterol, lowers the good kind, and can increase inflammation in your body. Bottom line: fried dough doesn't belong in anyone's diet

October 1-2/20

Gary Caprin
Looks like the flag flying jerk is back at it. Flying a half American/half Confederate flag on one side, what a disgrace. Flying down the city streets in his loud shit wagon in a school zone. However, what’s even more concerning is watching this fool fly into the Riley Elementary parking lot like the Dukes of Hazzard. Another issue that’s going to be brought to the school districts attention is, why is it allowed that he enter the building through a side entrance at all and furthermore, without having a temperature check. Hell, parents can’t even enter the schools but this fool can?? Word is his daddy works there, but, who is he to let him in, get to cleaning like your supposed to!

October 1-2/20

FBI Releases Movie to Alert Americans of Foreign Spy Threats

October 1-2/20

3,333,333$$$ City spending money that they do not have
Once again the fiscally irresponsible city of Oswego spends more money to further burden the taxpayers.
Stop the madness !They don't care that people have to repay this money!
Sh—t can these jerks!

October 1-2/20

This guy is out of control..trump the egomaniac
The Agriculture Department last week began mandating that millions of boxes of surplus food for needy families include a letter from President Donald Trump claiming credit for the program.

October 1-2/20

Oswego Code Enforcement, a waste of Oswego taxpayers money

October 1-2/20

Soviet spy who foiled Nazi plot to kill allied leaders dies aged 93 | Espionage


October 1-2/20

Child Molester
Congrats to those sipping COCKtails and singing at Curtis Manor last night. Owned by Oswegos prolific boy toucher Pauldine (Paladino) not 300 meters from the Oswego Middle School.
Just shameful

October 1-2/20

NYS Comptroller Audit: Up To 50% Of NYC Bars And Restaurants Could Close Permanently In Next 6 Months


October 1-2/20

Covid crisis could force extra 2.5m girls into child marriage

October 1-2/20

Is the internet falling apart?


October 1-2/20





Today's Quote September 30/20

Success seems to be largely a matter of hanging on after others have let go.
William Feather

SUNY Oswego
When can we get the college to completely close and send all the kids back home.
We are suffering in the city as COVID numbers keep increasing.
Anyone try to go to WellNow urgent care lately, you can't as it is ALL SUNY Oswego students.
The college says they are doing tons of testing on campus.
Did you see their testing numbers for the last 2 days - ZERO and 7, boy I hope they don't overdue it.
I am surprised the kids are not going home on their own, would you want to stay in that germ factory?

September 30/20

Roads and free driveways and sidewalks
The roads in this city are down right horrible.I blame the contractor inspector for most of them.He does not do his job and you city officials know it.They leave a mess and do not fix their road cuts good at all because speed and money is why.Our cars and tires take a beating.Drive down the roads they work on.You all should be ashamed of yourselves.Grow some balls and fire the inspectors ass. The house on West 5th street at West 5th and Miller has the DPW cut trees down,put in new sidewalks,put in two new concrete driveways -- are the taxpayers paying for all of this.They have been there a month.Interesting

September 30/20

Reply to Stinson
I don’t feel the need to say, “Why would I lie?” To me, those are words of convincing and an intentional/knowledgeable act. I don’t try to convince people to think the way I do and I don’t knowingly, when uttered, say that which is incorrect. But I do hope to inspire people to get information for themselves. I, too, don’t particularly care if someone doesn’t ‘believe’ me. Also, “Why would I lie?” doesn’t leave much room for acceptance of being incorrect, which I have been on a few points.

No apology necessary. Disagreement does not bother me nor hurt my feelings. Even name calling doesn’t hurt my feelings. Some names have actually been comical.

September 30/20

Looking for someone
The date was 06.04.91.
I ran out into the street in front of a car with my hand busted up and a couple fingers shattered. Late model four door sedan like an Oldsmobile, I think. They gave me a ride to OH.
I remember where (I remember every detail like it was last week) in Oswego that it happened, but I’ll hold that as a way to prove that anyone who says ‘that was me’ is who I’m looking for, I suppose.

I’m looking for the lady who would’ve been riding in the passenger seat. I remember her as being in her early/ mid twenties, blonde/ dirty blonde hair past her shoulders. Of course I’d love to hear from the driver, but I remember him being a bit older (50s? 60s? her father?) and likely wouldn’t recall as much, if he’s still with us.

I wish them both well and I’ve thought of them often. If this lady comes across this post, and is willing, I’d like to hear her side of the story. I’d primarily like to thank them. And apologize for bleeding all over their car :/
I’d be surprised if it didn’t become a family tale of sorts, so I hope someone comes across it who recognizes it (besides the guy I was there with when it happened, mostly looking for the car occupants). I fully understand that it was almost thirty years ago and the odds are slim to none of finding this person/ couple.
Feel feee to reword this as a post, or reply with any questions/ directions on what you want me to do with it.

Thank you!

September 30/20

Oswego City Streets Are a Mess as is the City Government
You cannot drive down a street in the city of Oswego without dodging potholes, broken up macadam, scarified streets waiting to be repaired (which takes years), and the ultimate: changing a street that was just fine into a stupid bike trail that physically makes no sense and added nothing to traffic control, other that causing accidents due to the stupid corner projections that look like a moron designed. Now, with all the fucked up streets, the “Idiot Councilor “of the 1st Ward allowed or requested the “Moron Traffic Advisory Board” to add about a dozen more stop signs to the streets in the 1st Ward. What a joke.

This idiot council and child mayor has not only screwed up the streets in the city but has allowed the use of grants, which we will pay a portion of, to be used for building low cost rental housing, which we will be paying for in our taxes. There are now seven (7) low cost housing complexes in and around Oswego which will cost the residence more in their taxes and the people who will occupy them will send their kids to the local schools which we will pay for along with the school breakfast and lunch programs. Then the idiot assessor will increase the city value because of these new structures which will bring in no new property taxes, and the tax levy will go up increasing your taxes which will come as a surprise down the road. Along with that, you are now paying an additional $800.000 a year to pay for the debt service, as the debt has doubled under these idiots.

Hey, you elected them and did not hold them accountable for what they have been doing and you will now be paying the price. We put these people in charge expecting them to hold the line and they have thrown us under the bus. The DPW is out of control, the corruption with specific friends of the mayor is out of control, the school distisct is spending like they have a money tree orchard, most of the city departments are out of control, (especially code enforcement), unemployment is up, and kids are not being educated in our schools.

We need advocates to start going to meetings like in the past when they got Gosek under control, but there seems to be nobody stepping up. This is how the government gets out of control, because nobody is watching until it is too late, and guess what, it is too late.

September 30/20




Today's Quote September 29/20

There are people who have money and people who are rich.
Coco Chanel

Trump slams NYT income tax avoidance claims as 'phony'


September 29/20

Trump dismisses New York Times report on taxes as 'fake news'

September 29/20

Stinson replies: Oaths
have never said you are a liar because for 100% I don't know.
Have gone over this again and again and I can't wrap my head around your story because the customers time and stories suggest the register clock was accurate.

The one thing that has bothered me is that you have never directly said ..."why would I lie."
To me this is a normal response coming from emotion, the heart and conviction.

Sorry if I hurt your feelings, pride etc......not my intention.

September 29/20


September 29/20

"DA Allows Prosecution to Withhold Evidence in Gary Thibodeau Trial"
Got it!! Evidence that didn’t show Gary, aka exculpatory, was allowed to be withheld in the name of “we’re still investigating the case. *slow clap round of applause, “At least they ‘got’ someone.”, right? Doesn’t matter if it was the correct ‘someone’.

Who believes everything from the news anyhow…..Thank God Richard got the property receipt and the carpet was DNA tested or “We” would have thought that carpet piece was the one another non-testifying witness claims to have seen Richard and Gary carrying into the woods when Richard was at work in Liverpool, NY. Oh, the forensic report verifies the blood material on the carpet. Sorry, twisters, how you going to twist that? I know….say that the carpet receipt is false and the forensic report is fake. Did greg file the police notes about that? OOPPPsie!!

Boy, the things we learn later, aka hindsight. Hhhmm, wonder why greg didn’t mention that the prosecution was allowed to withhold evidence as part of his argument against the fact that evidence was withheld? Seems legitimate since a previous judge ruled so.

So, greg, and Dodd’s cult, do you still want to argue that nothing was withheld? Or was that news article a bs lie also? And the answer is…….”We don’t have to because the convict passed away.”

Sometimes, just sometimes, coincidences are just coincidences like the Bronco and red truck at the store around 7:45am. One can easily ‘believe’ the Bronco was Brett’s and the red truck was Dannie’s without carefully reading police notes or witness statements from customers at the store at the time. See what happens when one, including jurors, don’t get complete information or evidence…they make assumptions and speculate. I, too, haven’t had my head on a chopping block but if I did, I would want the proceeding to be fair. After all, isn’t that what our Justice system is supposed to be? Or is it only fair to people who aren’t accused of crimes and (supposed) victims?

“Just because one keeps repeating something doesn’t make it true.” What if what they keep saying is backed up by FACTS and evidence? Does that make it true? Certainly not IF there is conflicting/uncorroborated facts or evidence..


September 29/20

Will the Global Economy Ever Recover From the Pandemic?

September 29/20





Today's Quote September 26-28/20

The income tax has made liars out of more Americans than golf.
Will Rogers

Are we supposed to believe Heidi was taken to MA in the Caddy and disposed of? Response....
They said two deputies were watching Gary' house on the 3-4-5th.

Why didn't they follow him to MA.

This whole case is a pay to kill, cover up LE selling coke and LE covering up the murder case and Dodd being the worst human being on the planet.

You disgusting pig!

Page 2064, line 12. Harmless error, right, that he answered Fahey that they "had none" referring to fingerprints. WTF, he's the one that found them in May 1995.

September 26-28/20

I’m curious
when Herbie was testifying at Gary’s trial, on recross, why didn’t he just say that he found the index card in May 1995-just weeks before trial, in the bulk storage (Sheriff garage)? He was specifically asked about ‘full set of prints’ and ‘any prints’. Must have forgotten or overlooked THAT FACT.! Wouldn’t that have added fuel to the connection to Heidi-drugs-Gary? We now know that he, himself in fact, SAW the card with the prints. From the Lortie report dated 4/28/1994, the news article about Heidi informing, they DID exist prior to her kidnapping, prior to January 1994, prior to June 1993, prior to January 1993, prior to June 1992, prior to January 1992! How am I doing? Sound like a prosecutor, trying a case? Incompetent, inexperienced, deceitful investigation.?

I’m curious why didn’t dodd press Gary about the ‘drug trafficking’ charge that he got from MA that facilitated the warrant and extradition? Because it wasn’t true and he couldn’t prove it? Not having proof didn’t stop him from telling the public in 1994. I’m also curious, nvm, I know why they didn’t have Wheeler testify….it was already shown that he was a liar, in contradiction to how dodd was playing it off!!

· Why did dodd say during Gary’s testimony that ‘Liars always lie.’? So by that logic, Gary should have not admitted to falsification to DSS. Now wait a minute here, dodd, there are many different kinds of lies. There are compulsive, pathological, sociopathic. Which one would LE that lie to get convictions fall under? So, we don’t believe Gary when he testified about not owning an ‘army fold-up shovel’, even when one was not confiscated from the property searches BUT (maybe I should look this up so as not to….lie) we believe a shovel found that had no connection to Gary OR Heidi was the murder weapon? Wow! Just Wow!

This case would make a great movie because some of the shit that happened could only happen in movies.

These are types of lies:

· Error—a lie by mistake. ...

· Omission – leaving out relevant information. ...

· Restructuring—distorting the context. ...

· Denial—refusing to acknowledge a truth. ...

· Minimization—reducing the effects of a mistake, a fault, or a judgment call.

· Exaggeration—representing as greater, better, more experienced, more successful.

Can someone be a liar AND a good person? Some circumstances, I think yes.

I find it very curious that people weigh a lie from a defendant (that he admitted to UNDER OATH) more egregious than a lie from, say, LE or a prosecution witness. They shouldn’t have to lie-note the types above-if they have ‘beyond a reasonable doubt of guilt’. Is this too deep for some people? Too much psychology? And these are just the type of people that prosecutors LOVE as jurors. They want the, “Yes” men and women. The ‘they must have something to get the indictment’ jurors. They’re not very fond of the teachers who will write things out, really try to make connections and sense. They want ones who will speculate to make the prosecution theory fit. They want jurors who will believe that the defendant and defense witnesses are just lying to protect the defendant. What about disinterested defense witnesses? Just ignore their testimony or ‘does the prosecution have more?’.

For example—They want jurors who will accept that a witness saw what he testified to even if he changed his eyewitness account to mirror LE. They want a juror who would believe that a witness can provide speculation that shows that the defendant HAS TO BE the only possible suspect. They want a juror who can be convinced by a witness/es who will make them think, “Hey this could be the correct ‘bad guy.’. They want a juror who will believe THEM. What do they care if the prosecutor lies.? They got, at least, this bad guy off the street. Even if he didn’t commit the crime he was charged with.

I just don’t understand ‘believing’ the bs that has been presented during trial after ALL that is known right now. So much for wanting the Truth and Heidi being found. He lied for a noble cause, right? *Shame that after all these years and belief in a justice system, that a former ADA, DA, judge would get caught up in all the lies….that the lies have been made public.

Dodd, you fucking suck. You Are So Pathetic. You really think no one can or will figure out what you did relating to Heidi’s disappearance? Hide behind your immunity, buddy. The Truth is the Truth which is something you don’t stand for. Oh, you think I’m Lisa Peebles….hahaha? I’ll take that as a compliment. However, it doesn’t take someone with a lawyer degree to see what dodd did!! But call an anonymous person a psycho to make denial all that more comfy. What it does take is an unbiased look at as much as possible, including the evidence the prosecution doesn’t show or present at trial. Keep yourself safe, Mike B. I’m confident that you know what happened. Not quite sure if you know because you were involved, though. You too, Jennie. And I pray that all those involved with not Finding Heidi or the TRUTH, have repented.

That’s my lesson for today. Until next time. If at any time you get sick and tired of my lessons…..editor, watta think? Keep posting? Keep beating the dead horse? Keep trying to get the Truth? Keep trying to inspire someone to ‘give it up’ where Heidi is and what happened?

September 26-28/20


Stinson replies: Oaths
Finally a different subject.
Matt 5:33 seems to prohibit Oaths. I think it's: "do you swear or affirm?" now. P.C.
Besides damnation for "bearing false witness"... On this side of judgement day, taking an oath means you accept a higher legal penalty if you Willfully lie. (Being confused or "I don't recall" is OK).
Let's go to court:
You get to tell the truth and nothing but the truth, but you don't always get to tell the 'whole truth.'
You answer cherry picked questions that the lawyer already knows the answer to.
On cross examination, Lawyers are like casino coolers, It's hard for a witness to win over the room.
It's awesome when I do.
Get Passionate and you'll be shut down like a heckler at the Improv Club.
Take the 5th and that will be pointed out 'ad nauseum'. And who speaks Latin anymore?
Lawyers do prep (some say coach) their own witness and they're experts at ambushing an opposition witness: "you can't handle the truth".
Get argumentative and you'll be reminded that "you're under oath"! (loudly)
It makes the lawyer look like they're taking the higher ground. Used a lot in Senate hearings w/ TV.
It's all just Lawyer speak, spin and Drama that overwhelms the jury.
Even in Gary's case the jury was told. "to vote for who they believed." -That's a quote -Juror #4 ?
Then the showmanship starts: "If the glove don't fit- you must acquit." -OJ trial
Who would get an actor up to try on a glove?
It's a rigged game with rules most people don't know: like getting a witness declared hostile or impeached, (Yes, in theory this can protect defendants rights also)
And it's an old boy's club. Different case: I heard a lawyer say, "Happy birthday your honor"
A little too cozy for me. But my head wasn't on the block.
Even the elevated bench and robes are all about power. (Still Powdered Wigs & The dock in the U.K).
If you're the "accused" you might be wearing orange coveralls and cuffs, not an Armani power suit.
The Best show wins!
Fascinating, unless you are the "Accused" (a dysphemism in itself) And no, I've never been.
I have testified a few times, including the military.
I hope the apocalypse, looting, 2nd A, the election... never resurrects that Military Oath.

"If you always tell the truth you don't have to remember anything." - Mark Twain.
"The truth will set you free". Well, they're not all true.
Thank you for a different rant. -DS

September 26-28/20

Harmless Error
Page 2064, line 12. Harmless error, right, that he answered Fahey that they "had none" referring to fingerprints. WTF, he's the one that found them in May 1995.

September 26-28/20

Trump and his lost planet airmen!
Nothing ceases to amaze me more than Trump and some of these Red State Governor's. Now that the Florida Governor has opened up all Bars and Restaurants at 100%. This apparently wasn't enough to cause super spreading, now he is calling for a Super Bowl Sellout in Miami with fans coming from all over the Country. What has become of the Grand Ole Party? Really! What planet did these idiots arrive from? The time has come for change, we need to vote out everyone of these idiots that have not as much of an ounce of common sense and get some smart politicians who do realize what planet they are on and work on reuniting this great Country of ours before it is too late. It's the "Red State" leaders along with our unfit for office President is why we are in this battle against Covid-19. We are dead last as far as management of the crisis. Look just across the border, 60 miles across Lake Ontario and see where Canada stands on the pandemic versus where we are. It's no wonder they continue to keep the border closed to us. Can you blame them? We need leadership at the top and not someone who is more worried about winning an election than the mounting loss of lives.It's time to set political affiliation aside and do what is right to save this great Country of ours before it's too late. Trump must go! No two ways about it, He must be relieved of his duties November 3 2020.

September 26-28/20

Thanks Mr. President
Why it matters: It was the highest single-day increase since August 14, when the country reported 64,350 new cases over a 24-hour span, and suggests that the U.S. has yet to contain the spread of the virus.

And the GOP governors keep opening up their states because it is the POPULAR thing to do not the wisest.

At the rate were are going we may be dealing with this for 5 more years.
and trump says the dems cities are a mess and I say the republicans states are a nightmare.

You can without a doubt blame trump for the mess we are in.

I wonder if he has bought any equipment for this.
Why would anyone close our pandemic Dept?
Only because they won't be around to criticize trump otherwise it makes no sense
Dropped out of the WHO, cut off funding to the CDC
He even diverted $300k from the CDC to have a political commercial about killing suspicions about Covid-19.


September 26-28/20






Today's Quote September 25/20

Quick decisions are unsafe decisions.

re: Today Begins A New Year
Thank you for your military service.

September 25/20

Considering what this country has come to, if I had to do it over again I would probably be living in Canada.

Trump was smart buying his way out of the draft. A f**kup like him would have been killed by his own men.

Another tasteful picture of our skanky first whore, I mean lady. But she ain't no lady

That must have been before Trump had her fitted for her new boobs.
About 30-35 years ago there was a bartender at the Tap Room who had a real set like a 56 Cadillac bumper and once you got by them, she was a very nice person and a good bartender. I think her name was Joyce and she may have worked at the Joy Bar too.



September 25/20

Some people, Mr. Stinson, do not understand or know what taking an oath means in the form of testifying in a Court of Law. “Some are trying to help. Others are trying to help themselves.” “Liars don’t always lie.” Sadly, some people can’t understand God’s Laws as it applies to themselves. Since this is a true statement, why do we still have people swearing on a bible?

I’m sure seeing the prosecutor in action was impressive and terrifying. I would be both (even if I was telling the truth/took the oath I made seriously). Unless having had experiences like that before (from either side of the room). Both ‘sides’ are trying to slip up the others’ witnesses. Might be interesting to see just how much time LE spent with the prosecution witnesses vs the defense witnesses? *If the purpose is for Truth and Justice…….

Mr. Stinson, many of the prosecution witnesses did not have the integrity and fortitude that you showed. Many had criminal issues of their own. Some witnesses admit to being told things by LE that influenced their testimony. Read the transcript. * “Could it have been minutes, could it have been 10 minutes….” “Could Richard have been the only plausible suspect.”

I am trying to understand how people are dead set on his guilt when there doesn’t appear to be anything ‘proving’ it. Richard was found not guilty and Gary’s gf was found not guilty about lying about his alibi and the charge for lying about going to MA was dismissed. Again, initially, the LAW doesn’t allow for innocence claims because we are all “Innocent until proven guilty” with the burden of the prosecutor to “prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant is guilty”. To that end-what was the PROOF that Gary was guilty? Clearly, someone can be Not Guilty AND Innocent, someone can be Guilty AND Innocent and someone can be Not Guilty AND not Innocent. Correct me if I’m wrong, were the jurors given specific instructions about their deliberation process? About credibility, what needs to happen to determine Not Guilty or Guilty?

I don’t understand which theory we’re supposed to believe making Richard and Gary guilty.

Are we supposed to believe that no one else could have done it?

Are we to believe that they went to the store, took her to near Gary’s, brought her back then kidnapped her?

Are we supposed to believe that she was dismembered and burned in the furnace and buried on Gary’s property?

Are we supposed to believe that a violent altercation in Richard’s van could not produce any DNA or link?

Are we supposed to believe Heidi was taken to MA in the Caddy and disposed of?

Are we to believe that despite several people’s testimony that Heidi didn’t do drugs or wouldn’t do them with Gary, that she did?

Are we supposed to believe that Gary and Richard fit the description of ‘husky’?

Tell me which one did the prosecution prove beyond a reasonable doubt? Which one, or combination, has been shown through fact or evidence in the investigation as being the truth? Or is the idea that the prosecution had theories that it was them, in itself, grounds for guilty?

I can tell you this for a FACT:

dodd lied to the community, fabricated evidence, withheld evidence.

greg lied to the community, unjustly fought a conviction reversal, accused a report of tampering with a scene possibly related to Heidi’s remains.

todd lied to the community.

wheeler lied under oath.

Many from the department were evasive under testimony. Specifically about Heidi giving information about drug activity in a ‘secret’ manner and having partial fingerprints before her disappearance.

Don’t tell me to ‘prove it’ because it would have to go before a Court of Law and that doesn’t appear to be happening. Mostly, I’d guess, because Heidi’s family doesn’t care about the court matter or who pays for it (even if not involved). Also, there is this thing called qualified immunity. But if you want to SEE what I mean…it has already been posted here, years ago when someone anonymously was posting documents and connecting people and pointing out the lies.

Go ahead, ask! I’ll show you again! And YES, this case infuriates me, legally and personally. That two people were unjustly accused (and some still believe they are guilty) and that LE hasn’t done more to find Heidi. No soil samples. Are you fucking kidding me. Taking a small excavator to the site after the ME examined-why the fuck would they do that? A prosecutor defending criminals. I would NEVER be able to remain professional when being lied to. Kudos for Mrs. Peebles’ composure.

September 25/20

This town is run by a mob that is as bad as organized crime!


September 25/20




Today's Quote September 24/20

The most useful thing about a principle is that it can always be sacrificed to expediency.
W. Somerset Maugham

Stinson replies:
You don't have to believe me. That's what testimony is, I say my say, and 12 jurors and the Judge weight it ... yada yada. Matt. 5 33,

September 24/20

re: Today Begins A New Year
That’s a first…. someone on the left complaining that it’s increasingly difficult to buy guns or ammunition. I thought you were all afraid of those scary guns.


September 24/20

Left, not hardly! Independent and proud of it. I qualified sharpshooter with an M14 and expert with grenade. I could still hit a silhouette at 150 yards with iron sights.

Rare Pink Dolphins Returning to Hong Kong as Coronavirus Halts Ferry Traffic, Giving Scientists a Closer Look


September 24/20

Kayleigh McEnany eyelashes
They look like she plucked them from an old Betsy Wetsy doll.

September 24/20

register transaction tape
I don’t believe the speculation that Mr. Stinson was within ‘seconds’ of Heidi’s kidnapping because of time inaccuracies. Perusing the trial testimony: http://underdogsportsnetwork.com/Trial_Transcript.pdf, Even Fahey didn’t have any questions for him. While his connections to other witnesses because of their job is interesting, I really don’t think it affected his testimony. I think he was truthful on the stand. However, I don’t think the testimonies amount to proof that there was only 2 minutes or within ‘seconds’ of when Mr. Stinson arrived for Heidi to be taken. Because of time inconsistencies, I think there was a period of time when someone else could have arrived after Richard left. Namely, I don’t think the register time was accurate. I don’t think it was accurate to the minute, nor even 5 minutes. Seeing the copy of the evidence (presumably written while at the store on April 3, just after Mrs. Duell checked the register around 8:15am)…seeing 7:16 crossed off to 7:42 should raise some bells. And the argument that, “Look at the other side of the photocopy, it has a phone number that starts with 716.” Clearly those are two different pieces of paper that were photocopied together. Are we to believe, “oopsie, he started writing the phone number on the wrong paper?” Now that is speculation. Here’s more speculation because Mrs. Duell didn’t testify to the entire transaction tape in court…..Richard stated on April 3, 1994 to VanPatten that he bought 2 packs of cigarettes after 7am and paid with 4 $1 bills. That would have left $0.38 but the register showed $1.38. Do we assume Heidi put in $5 as received? Or would it be fair that someone else may have bought 2 packs of cigarettes at 7:42am or…I like this speculation…what if in August when the deputy went to get the tape from 4-2, they made a false tape….No, that last one is way over the edge.

On a different note…Mr. Stinson do you believe that Mr. Bivens was truthful regarding his testimony and do you believe his testimony could ONLY be describing Richard and Gary? Do you believe the inmates were testifying to exactly what Gary told them? Do you believe it was possible for the testimony of the inmates to have actually happened? Mr. Stinson, I don’t know everything there is to know about the evidence or statements in this case. But what I can tell you is there is Not ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’’ that Gary, or Richard for that matter, are guilty. The Law only allows for ‘Not Guilty’ or ‘Guilty’ because EVERYONE is Innocent Until Proven Guilty. However, once someone is convicted, THEN the law allows for innocence claims. The burden to prove actual innocence is much greater than the burden on the prosecution, initially. So, despite the majority of the appeal judges upholding the verdict, it was by no means unanimous. The motion for appeals could have been denied right from the beginning but they weren’t. And the dissenting judges told us why Gary should have gotten another trial.

Some people bitch about the money it costs for appeals and who foots the bill. Tell that to the prosecutors of the 2670 cases all over the country since 1989 whose guilty cases have been overturned and the defendant exonerated. PROOF that prosecutors don’t always “get their man”.

September 24/20

In Rare Bipartisan Agreement on Climate, U.S. Senators Forge Plan to Phase Out Use of a Potent Greenhouse Gas

September 24/20

Crotch rocket jerk at d.p.w.
Happened to be driving into town this after noon (Wendsday 9/23) on Mitchell St. when the d.p.w. flunkies were getting out of "work" at 3 o'clock and witnessed some ass hole on a crotch rocket popping wheelies down Mitchell Street THROUGH A RESIDENTIAL AREA. Made a left on 9th St, and did it a few more times. Then when he got out on Bridge St, the same thing PAST A CITY COP NO LESS. This looks real good for a department that youve supposively "straightened up" Tommy. Maybe an email straight to the the Dough Boy will get that jerk's wings clipped. Save the crap about having no control over that mongrol hoard after work hours, youve got them scared shitless of you. If theyre coming out of your gate and accepting a paycheck from the City, theyre a reflection on you no matter what time of day it is. Fix it, or maybe some law inforcement that you don't have in your pocket will start watching. Then, who knows what else theyll see.

September 24/20

U.S. Government Plans to Reduce Number of Troops in Iraq by Nearly Half This Month



September 24/20

Stinson answers:
Yes, I knew who Swenszkoswki was. I knew Deputy Curtis etc. It's a small town. I've posted all that before.

September 24/20







Today's Quote September 23/20

It is from weakness that people reach for dictators and concentrated government power.
Only the strong can be free. And only the productive can be strong.
Wendell Willkie

Today Begins A New Year
On September 22, 2003 OSWEGONYLION.COM officially went online. As corrupt as Oswego, Oswego County, and the country in general was at that time, who could have imagined we would be where we are today. With a despot in the White House, an administration that models itself after the Nazi party of the 1930s, and Russian interference in our elections welcomed at the highest levels how much worse can it get?


Some time ago I warned people to take note of those with the Trump bumper stickers and yard signs. These are the people with the AR 15 assault rifles and thousands of rounds of ammo. They are the ones Trump will call to action if he does not win re-election. Back then I also told people if they did not have a gun, now was the time to get one and plenty of ammo. Well do not go to Walmart. They have a very limited supply of ammo and no guns. You cannot go to Dicks. They stopped selling guns and ammo in April except for just a few stores and that may have been eliminated once their stock was sold off. Call me radical, call me extreme or whatever you want but I have been right about almost everything I said Trump was doing. If he gets a second term the first thing on his mind will be an amendment to the law limiting the president to two terms. If he is not stopped now there is no end to what the son of a bitch will do.

September 23/20

The fix of Gary T.
28-year-old Houston doctor dies after battle with coronavirus, FOR ALL YOU STUPID BOUGHT AND PAID FOR REPUBLICANS

The "RED" response is right on...bravo when will people wake up. The USPS is doing nothing but hindering the vote.
So obvious and Dejoy will be hated until the day he dies.
You screwed up trump the USPS gimmick is hurting everyone in the country and they will remember Nov. 3rd.

The Heidi response is right on.


The liars and the corrupt LE:

Dodd....Mrs. Dodd do you know you are living with a man that hid very important evidence...Tracy and Roger's taped phone call.

and whoever there is Do yOu slEEp weLl at NiGht?

September 23/20

Mail In Voting
I sent my all Democratic ballot in today and if Donald Trump don’t like it he can suck my big harry d**k.

September 23/20



Kayleigh McEnany Another Trump Bimbo

Supposedly she makes over 180K a year. With that kind of money you would think she could shop somewhere besides the dollar store for her fake eyelashes.


September 23/20

the hating of the middle class
Our Secretary of Treasury said in June 2020
" I will do everything I can to stop another stimulus package."

Ever hear a democrat say that?

Nope they are for the people and the republicans are not.

You can believe this 100% as there will not be a response to this by anyone because they know it is true.

September 23/20

Have you had the opportunity to read the transcript for yourself and compare to the prosecution filing for the hearing? What about listening to or reading the documents available from Peebles for the People?

I do not believe Mr. Stinson had any false or ‘coached’ testimony. I believe he was stating the facts as he personally experienced. Other witnesses were clearly coached and many admitted to such on cross. The important issue raised about his testimony is how many minute discrepancy was the register time. Was it just several minutes making Richard the only possible suspect or was there a longer period of time when it could have been others. What was the specific information LE acquired that determined their theory was the only TRUTH?

September 23/20


September 23/20





Today's Quote September 21-22/20

Justice for crimes against humanity must have no limitations.
Simon Wiesenthal


Stinson replies:
I believe that I missed Heidi's disappearance by seconds. I testified to that, and met with Lisa Peebles, Thibodeau's lawyer (at my request) to make sure that she knew that I disagreed with the Cash register time. That is really all I've got. I have answered every question put to me on this website. I will meet with anyone officially associated with this case. But in 26 years nobody has ever called me.

September 21-22/20

Canada extends U.S. border restrictions to Oct. 21


September 21-22/20

Short sided:
1) How many Superintendents are we paying?? GOOWEY will get his new field for a marching band, it will be softer on their feet. 2) You can;t even get enough kids to have a football team, 3) You can only make a team IF you have the right last name,its been the same for years, and sadly its the same in little league . Must be that pile of dirt is what is left to play with, so sad taxpayers take it again .

September 21-22/20


John Katko The Great Bipartisan Congressman

By the time most of you read this 200,000 people in this country will have died as a result of Covid 19.
More than 32,000 of these victims were New York State residents.

One ad for Katko claims, “Sen. Katko was a strong advocate for our industry and all New Yorkers, helping essential businesses and their employees so they could continue their work making the products that go into hand sanitizers, protective equipment, and other necessary products.”

BULLSHIT !!!!!!!

Cuomo had hand sanitizer made in New York State buy inmates in the states prisons. How many months was it before we could buy sanitizer our stores? How long have we had to deal with rationed and over-priced toilet paper and Kleenex ? How many of you made your own protective masks because you could not buy them? No sooner than people started making their own masks than the stores ran out of sewing supplies. But John Katko is bipartisan. Somehow that is supposed to make up for all of that.

Trump’s Gestapo is grabbing citizens off the streets and transporting them in unmarked vans to secret locations where they have been denied their rights but don’t worry John Katko is bipartisan.

Trump is sending his militia men out into our cities to kill protestors but don’t worry because John Katko is bipartisan.

Trump has his attorney general Declare NYC an “anarchist jurisdiction” so he can cut federal funding but don’t worry because John Katko is bipartisan.

Trump calls our troops and veterans suckers but don’t worry because John Katko is bipartisan.

Trump lets hundreds of thousands of people die so he can promote his political agenda but don’t worry because John Katko is bipartisan.

I don’t care if the mother f**ker is bisexual he is no god damn better than Trump because he does nothing to stop that murdering orange faced bastard. If Katko and all his republican friends were not too busy sucking Trump’s ass and thinking up ways to explain away 200,00 dead people they just might see we have a few problems in this country but when was the last time the republicans gave a shit about anyone but themselves.


September 21-22/20

Re: Heidi

It takes someone with great character/morals to come forward after they have already given testimony in a case like this where they ‘think’ they are helping…LE and to get the ‘bad guy’. Also, they would have to KNOW that the case is being reevaluated by someone informing them. EX: the former jurors on Gary’s and Richard’s trials being requested a comment. We heard from Mrs. Head (thanks so much for your unbiased insight), “We thought he was guilty of something.” We heard that Richards jurors made the correct decision. We’ve heard from (though we can’t KNOW for sure on an anonymous web forum) that Mr. Stinson stands by his testimony but wanted to know more and would talk if someone contacted him (a lawyer or LE).

(Speaking of Mr. Stinson—armed security for Nine Mile, Mr. Swenszkowski—Nine Mile employee. Hmm, no chance they knew the other was an employee of the same place? Clever, that Mr. S couldn’t ID the person he walked by to leave it open that it could have been Gary. But that theory went out the door when he may have recalled the man he saw wearing glasses. So many contradictions when rereading the transcript…what we once ‘believed’ now has ‘more to the story’….)

(Something else to ponder. Police report 4/28/94 (?)*Looks like a fill-in the fields report, actual photo of sheet to follow* Deputy is describing actions he took after being notified of Heidi being missing. P.S. This information, in fact, went out over the police scanner on April 3 at approximately 8-8:30am, giving her name. (Weren’t scanners and beepers popular then?) Back to the report-I found it odd (about the interaction) that the deputy went to Spinners (placing fliers) when someone told him about “John” Baureax having information on a vehicle at the store on 4/2/94 and that a bartender had been harassed by someone in a red/orange truck. Was this really Mike? Wasn’t Mike supposed to have been, theoretically, gone from the area because of his mail? HHmmmm, Mike’s connection keeps getting deeper and deeper. But no, Dodd and LE were using him as an informant so it wasn’t suspicious at all. Either John Bohrer WAS there OR it was really Mike but using John’s name. Wonder if any of them thought to ask, even at such a later time, Deputy Crisafulli to ID John and the bar owner to ID John and Mike. I’d guess NO because that would be some fine connect the dots investigation right there and by the 28th they *LE* had decided Gary and Richard were guilty. Just a theory that I don’t necessarily take much credence in but shooting it out there….could the true kidnappers be Mike and John who took her. The others participated in killing Heidi and/or disposing of her off Rice and then through the junkyard?)

Inspired topic: Theories (not talking about it will surely not get the truth about where Heidi is!) Don’t know which one is more correct but surely know which ones can’t cut the mustard—that Richard and Gary did it or that she is in Protective Custody.

What about the others witnesses? Can pretty much rule out Bivens doing the right thing. If prosecution asks he’d stand by his testimony for them but if someone unbiased or from the defense-he can’t remember what happened last year let alone 20+ years ago or “I don’t recall.”. (Probably ‘coached’ to say that exact same wording as he did it frequently through defense questioning *yea, I read the transcript). Mrs. Duell-course she wouldn’t say if she truly told anyone besides her mom…. WTF either tell ALL the owners and Heidi’s family OR call LE right away? That would be the common sense things to do. Not sit on the info for a month, duh, stupid. She really didn’t care though because it wasn’t her daughter. Wonder if Bohrer told the truth about Matt hitting on Heidi? Wonder if it was true that a deputy had a crush on Heidi? HHmmm, those diaries/personal planners are probably REALLY revealing.

Shall I go through ALL the witnesses? (*cue in the sniveling that , “This is why no one wants to come forward.” No, this is NOT why the witnesses don’t want to come forward. They don’t want to for many reasons which boil down to, “We were doing the right thing, then, based on what we knew or were told by LE and had to protect (themselves).” They lack the courage and fortitude to do what’s right after all these years because, “It’s done and over with. The convict is gone, Heidi’s been gone. What good would it do?” For one, it could Help Find Heidi and get the scared community the other Answers!!

Here’s what Dodd was looking for with prosecuting Richard and Gary. Atta boy, *patting back, slapping his ass, I didn’t think you had a chance in hell getting the conviction. You did an Awesome job coaching your witnesses. They slipped up under cross but the jury believed them anyhow. Great job. You’ve got what it takes to be The Man! I’d endorse you for Jimmies job. Who cares, now that you have the conviction even if it does come up years later. We got immunity. The Judge will believe you over any other witness. Plus you can always ‘misplace’ evidence. *wink”

**Jesus Christ. Doesn’t this person EVER shut up about Heidi? No one is listening. What they say has got to be bs. They are commenting anonymously, so why believe him/her? They are either injecting themselves because they are involved or trying to get 15 minutes of fame.

---Answer-No. Not true, people do listen and it does inspire others to act as they see fit. Maybe they are spewing bs, so where are they getting their information from-let’s see it. Maybe I will or won’t agree on their interpretation. P.S. What do I care what people think of my anonymous self? I may only be acquainted with people or know someone who knows someone, at best. There are MANY people in this case who have only tried to do the right thing which may or may not have backfired. I, personally, admire someone who can say, “Hey, thought I was doing the right thing based on information I had. I was correct and stand by it.” OR “Hey, thought I was doing the right thing based on information I had. I was wrong and this is really what went on.” *It’s not like I haven’t lost a daughter and would have wanted to find answers had I lost her like what happened to Heidi. I would NEVER stand for BS, uncorroborated theories or the wrong person being convicted for her loss. So, believe what you want but if you want to talk, let’s go. Any way that’s safe that you want.

As I close, (for now)…..Words of wisdom….

“ If you always do what you’ve always done, you will always get what you always got”

“Trust, but verify.”

“Breaking things down into simple pieces, I distinguish between truth, knowledge, and belief. Truth is simply what is, whether I am aware of it, or whether I feel it is true or not. Belief is what I feel is true. ... So, when they say something is right, they will conjure explanations that are consistent with their belief.”

September 21-22/20

September 21-22/20


Trumped by an idiot
Democrats are “heartless”. They don’t want to give STIMULUS PAYMENTS to people who desperately need the money, and whose fault it was NOT that the plague came in from China. Go for the much higher numbers, Republicans, it all comes back to the USA anyway (one way or another!).

Let's see:
-Trump lowered HEAP for elderly people for heat
- Trump reduced SNAP for the poor and the elderly and children to have food
- Trump moved the deadline to an earlier date to make it harder to sign up for Obama care
* if you think ins. is costly now wait until the GOP hands it back to the insurance companies
- Trump also inhibited the school lunch program making it harder for kids to get food
- Trump wants to get rid of SS, Medicaid and Medicare which most people need
* remember when you turn 65 you must go on Medicare...law
- Trump also killed the child care act...ins. for children

So I guess there is much more the GOP takes from the people



September 21-22/20

UK coronavirus live: officials meeting today to consider case for new restrictions for London


September 21-22/20

£10,000 fines warning for failing to self-isolate as England Covid infections soar

September 21-22/20

Non-essential businesses to close until further notice

September 21-22/20

1,500 people at unauthorized Upstate NY step dance show at risk for coronavirus


September 21-22/20

COVID, flu could lead to deadly twindemic as US nears 200K deaths

September 21-22/20

India arrests nine al Qaeda militants planning 'terrorist attacks'

September 21-22/20


The First Hooker






Today's Quote September 19/20

"Yet what greater defeat could we suffer

than to come to resemble the forces we oppose in their disrespect for human dignity?"

Ruth Bader Ginsburg

They both need to be investigated , as the county tells you nothing when you call , and Kells is always busy , so where do you go. In Walmart yesterday no masks again, the security people all huddled together shooting the shit, and on taxis, have only seen 1 , once that had a mask on. Where is Kells and the Students having their partys this weekend ???????

September 19/20

Infection rates soar in college towns as students return

September 19/20

Response to Heidi post
if only people would not be afraid to come forward to law enforcement. No one has even tried to contact

I cannot believe people still don't understand that the LE was involved with this crime:

- Moe refused FBI help to investigate
- Deputies cars going in airport at 3-4 am ( we know coke was coming in from the airport)
- Dodd hid evidence , lies and covered up this case back in 1995
- Judge King did all he could to make sure Gary didn't win the appeal.
- Steen confessed and all three said they did it.
- Phone call between Tracy and Roger was never used as evidence...* now this is a big one.
Dodd said it didn't amount to anything. Are you ph**ing kidding????
Dodd also lied to Lisa
- Witnesses covered up the actual event..how the hell didn't Stinson see anything? Even if the clock was tampered with all the other watches and clocks were right from the church goers & customers...bullshit lie.
- Cabin was a hit then covered up by LE
- MA jail was a setup and those two guys did get lighter sentences for their help. Balasdaro said later that Gary never confessed to the crime
- Cash register receipt wasn't gotten by the OCSD until 3-4 months after
- Jenn did know that Heidi was taken to her house and id the white van that MB owned
- How does MB gete a fax from DA's DWI file about key witness had a DWI and insurance fraud charge. MB talked to him and convinced him to help OCSD with the crime and railroad Gary.

The kidnapping was done by Roger, Steen and Mike.
The crime was covered up by LE...period!

September 19/20

The OCSD BOE sold out most of our student athletes as well as the taxpayers today. We get to pay for the multimillion dollar athletic field improvements while there are virtually no athletics going on this fall. The Board approved the Superintendents recommendation for varsity only sports. That’s correct, no JV or modified soccer will be offered. In addition, the varsity ranks will be so strictly limited that only roughly 24 student athletes will be able to participate in soccer. In addition, it’s been years since OHS has been able to field a competitive boys or girls soccer team and by eliminating JV and Modified soccer the board has ensured mediocrity for years to come. Well done! Perhaps they can turn the new stadium into a giant PB&J assembly facility because that’s about all the school district has accomplished since schools were closed in March – making lunches.

September 19/20

Bill Barr urges violent protesters to be charged with sedition

September 19/20






Today's Quote September 18/20

Rather fail with honor than succeed by fraud.

Local Taxi Companies
I have noticed driving through the city of Fulton and Oswego the various taxi cab companies that are not required to wear masks. I think this is a disaster waiting to happen especially since most of these companies pick up the elderly and infirmed. Also… These cab companies pick up SUNY Oswego college kids. No masks no hand sanitizer...nothing. I have called both cities mayors office’s and I was told that they have no control over these businesses. I have also called the Oswego county health department and they told me that they have nothing to do with it either. Well… Someone gave them licenses and it seems to me that they are under the same New York State laws and regulations also. This needs to be stopped. As this is a tragedy that is waiting to happen with the elderly. Please help and get something done about this I think this is a huge issue!

September 18/20

Heidi's sisters' interview


Great job! I love listening to you recalling your childhood experiences with your sister…if only people would not be afraid to come forward to law enforcement. No one has even tried to contact you personally about where Heidi is? That seems a little odd that if they were afraid to go to LE because they might be exposed, why wouldn’t they tell you (even anonymously) so you could hire an investigator or tell LE (anonymously). LE would take an anonymous lead seriously and at least physically look? The convict has paid his due, in full, so shouldn’t the focus be on getting those leads, anonymous if necessary, to find her, to give her the burial you want? All the other answers, though not factually or truthfully, have been answered BUT for the main one.

My heart breaks that Heidi was taken before her time. That she could have been me, my daughter, my sister, my neighbor.

September 18/20

Heidi’s sister,
If you Really wanted your sister found, why have you not insisted/demanded or hired your own investigator to check the Barlow former residence? What about other anonymous leads about her remains being in Happy Valley? Worst case is nothing is found.

If you truly ‘believe’ Dodd’s theory about Heidi being taken to MA, why have the FBI not been contacted? If the end result, the only you care about, is finding Heidi then why hasn’t more been done to find her? Literally to physically find her? I’m not understanding how talking about your perception of her and telling lies about what you should know as fact, is helping find HER.

Is Heidi not worth the heartbreak or expense? At the least, you can go back to ‘believing’ the bs theory about Gary and Richard. Maybe if you’re clever enough, you could incorporate a reasonable theory about a recovery as to how and why she may have been there/taken there and how Gary did it. But that would contradict what Dodd and Todd believe.

Want some pointers on how to search for a missing loved one…Tammy Mahoney. Now that’s how you search for a missing loved one. They have my highest respect for trying to find their loved one! *I certainly hope you don’t think her case could only happen in the movies, too. Like how you ‘believe’ that it only happens in movies that a prosecutor or law enforcement would make up a case against someone.

God’s Law – ““Thou shalt not bear false witness” forbids: “1. Speaking falsely in any matter, lying, equivocating, and any way devising and designing to deceive our neighbor. 2. Speaking unjustly against our neighbor, to the prejudice of his reputation; and (which involves the guilty of both).”

Oh, but that is just a moral imperative, if one doesn’t have morals…..

Is anything being done besides lip service?

September 18/20

Agloma Innovator
Self Discharging Bulk Carrier built in 2017 sailing under the flag of Canada.

September 18/20

202 E. Fifth St.
Look at this dump with its blatant code violations. Why is it code enforcement turns a blind eye to this dangerous property? Appears that Code Enforcement is using their authority to harass and punish people they dislike.


September 18/20

Vietnam war leaker Daniel Ellsberg warns against extraditing Julian Assange

September 18/20

Taiwan calls for global coalition against China's aggression as US official flies in

September 18/20







Today's Quote September 17/20

If you are lucky enough to find a way of life you love, you have to find the courage to live it.
John Irving

Long-term health effects of COVID-19 remain unknown, says WHO chief - World - TASS


September 17/20

Re: thought
There is a typo.

Should say: “I’m surprised no one has tried to SAY…


September 17/20

To Donal Dodd
You know can see how much our POTUS lies...constantly.
Lied to an entire country.

But you being the honest person that you are only with held evidence and lied to Lisa P.

You railroaded an innocent man so the deputies wouldn't be caught for selling coke they got at the airport at 3-4 am...noted by the people living near the airport.







September 17/20






Today's Quote September 16/20

Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.
Edmund Burke

Beth, Beth, Beth
That’s a good girl that you have been keeping your mouth shut publicly. Were you feeling like a fool parroting the bs lies from the police and DA? Didn’t like that an anonymous person could punch so many holes in what you were trying to put past as truth or evidence? Bet you were! I would imagine that you and daddy didn’t have any firsthand knowledge of what your bro and his wife did. How convenient you all got played. But by whom is the question? Pretty clever, by spewing your bs the DA could gauge what people would/wouldn’t believe. Like how he didn’t try to present the, “Someone else died a while ago in the same area…..” as where the cadaver dogs hit off Rice Road, instead, relying on the Judges to not carefully look over all evidence because the assumption was that the prosecution did a FAIR and Just job of investigating and winning the initial verdict. Oh, and prosecutorial and qualified immunity.

Was it the police because of their negligence with Heidi and wanting her to inform or was it from who really took her from the store? More than likely…to save the families reputation and your bro’s freedom.

http://underdogsportsnetwork.com/Trial_Transcript.pdf --Here, read this…nevermind, I don’t think you could have an original thought on this. But then again, you do have a big mouth depending on who you are talking to.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/peebles-for-the-people/id1521905553 --Don’t listen to this either. It will take up too much of your precious time. Heaven forbid if you should read or hear the facts for yourself!!

What, what was that? Richards van was seen at the car wash 3 weeks AFTER it was forensically tested?

What, what was that? Your bro and his now wife ‘took’ the van from Gary’s property AFTER the property was searched 2x’s?

What, what was that? A hearing to suppress the inmates testimony because the DA was lying that they were working as ‘agents’ and interviewing Gary (got a deal on their own charges)? NOT a hearing to suppress evidence? Oh that’s right, a back door deal was made to suppress evidence…lol lol lol

What, what was that? The police had several fingerprints (from her file card) but the deputies who ‘found’ the card in May 1995, testified in June/July 1995 that they weren’t aware of any fingerprints in police files?

What, what was that? The carpet ‘missing’ from Richard’s van after the car wash was found next to their house and confiscated? (Thank goodness the police receipt for this evidence was not destroyed)

What, what was that your bro testified to about the rolled carpet in a van he junked?

What, what was that? The DA had an independent cadaver dog indicate off Rice Road before the defense had 2 independent cadaver dogs indicate in the same area?

What, what was that? How many cadaver dogs were on Gary’s property in 1994 with not so much as an indication?

I don’t know, miss. Sounds like there was more credibility with the new leads than the supposition and uncorroborated theories on how the Thibodeau’s could have done this. Bet if you weren’t involved by family or …..in the allegations, you would be able to see the new revelations for what they are……More true and plausible.

Hey…I have a theory for you, What If, Steen did tell Tonya that they “almost got caught by someone driving by” with the rolled carpet or something wrapped in plastic at the same time that Richard was dropped off at work in Liverpool, NY. You do know his boss testified that he was dropped off? I would guess that his boss would have recognized if he was picked up again, left the site for some time and then returned? No? What if that was Steen and someone else attempting to through that in the pond but they had to think of something else because they were almost busted?

My heart breaks for Heidi…for all the lies…and that she was taken before her time. If only the judges could/did look at ALL the evidence. But, they can’t see what they’re not given.

September 16/20

I was just thinking of sequence of events per Peebles for the People’s latest podcast.

Alex mentions that Heidi’s diaries were ‘lost’ by the clerk’s office but then found and turned over to judge king.

I’m surprised that no one has tried to see, years later, that Matt M. or myself, tampered with them when we were there. Course, it would be a blatant lie for many reason: there are cameras in the clerk’s office, we were there After the hearing and any photocopies were given, to me, by Mr. Bacon. I was told there was only one other person that had been in to see Gary’s transcript. Do you think that one person was only greg? What do you think happened to the diary about being ‘lost’ in the clerk’s office? I went there on 3 different periods of time. First times were only a couple boxes of Heidi’s material. Second time there were more boxes and the third set of times I was there, the documents had been redacted.

What do you think happened to the diaries after the hearing?

to the person who's bitching about city workers what are you a welfare person those city workers are paying for scum ass to stay home.

Live-Stream Sporting Events Discussed At Oswego Common Council Meeting

September 16/20

Common Council
Every meeting there are humongous dollars $$$$$$$$$ paid to this and that , this nor any other administration says nothing about the fact that nussbummer and farce f++ked us so bad by an inept sewer separation(which was not done remotely right).
None of the local (the no truth in the news )press has ever even thought an $83,000,000$ Dollar job that was a result of a bad administration crooked cheating criminally irresponsible administration,was worth writing about!
How about we drag the shitheads that did the original job to Barlow Park and put them in raw sewage!
And so on

September 16/20

Dershowitz Sues CNN for $300 Million Over Impeachment Coverage


September 16/20





Today's Quote September 15/20

Since I am known as a 'rich' person, I feel I have to tip at least $5 each time I check my coat.

On top of that, I would have to wear a very expensive coat, and it would have to be insured.

Added up, without a topcoat I save over $20,000 a year.
Aristotle Onassis

Obviously they were resisting, If they would just comply these things wouldn't happen...
Sounds like Otsego deputies are even more qualified than Oswego deputies.



September 15/20

I can think of only a few scenarios where a discharge from a pocket can occur.
1- The gun is a revolver and the hammer is half-cocked, fully cocked, or just resting on a loaded chamber. The safest way to keep a revolver is have one chamber empty. Ideally it would be the one under the hammer.
2- The gun is an automatic and there is a round chambered with safety on or off. Again the safe way is not to chamber a round until ready to fire.

Mayor Barlow The City Schools County of oswego TAXES TAXES TAXES
People out of work suffering from poverty due to the coronavirus shouldn’t have their house seized for delinquent taxes .taxes after two years ,because they were put out of work and unable to pay these funds in time. The city of Oswego ,the other entities that put this type of burden on citizens should be tarred and feathered force forclosure
On decent citizens Who were willing to work but their industries were affected by Covid ,this needs to be addressed by every person (laugh laugh ha ha that’s representing the people !)in all forms of government and moreover no one working for government during this crisis in anyway whatsoever should be allowed to buy any foreclosed property put up for sale because of the Covid burden on the victims of the circumstances The huge tax burden that created the delinquency with all these well-to-do civil service workers is the reason for the deficit the homeowner incurred. That’s why it’s such a conflict of interest that he’s happy go lucky civil servants collect homes of the unfortunate so that they could further their wealth by the people suffering.This is the disintegration of society if this starts to happen where the police start dressing in brown shirts To remove people from their homes and the new homeless turned into slaves there’s a problem and it needs to be addressed !the working
People Need help not hell!

September 15/20

What a city worker needs a tooth implant how much do they have to pay? With a private citizen out of work because of Covid has to have their teeth pulled because they can’t afford an implant. Is this fairOr is it foul not everyone can work for the city not everyone can work for the government because then they wouldn’t be any people to suffer and die so those people can get their teeth fixed.

September 15/20

The city of Oswego
Taxes are insane need to start over rejoin the school to the city Government. Have voluntary workers that are smart and retired they care about the city volunteer to manage government maybe hire a city manager that works for the people not his friends. Maybe a school manager but this whole system is completely broken we have a nice town we have water we have agriculture and we have an incredible amount of thieving scum running things don’t you think it’s time they should just go earn a living and not take the money that the hard-working people have given them through whatever program to dole out to their friends. The system is broken it’s a racket these people are racketeers no one stands up to anyone around here because Mr. Bigg is choreographing so it’s so it’s career so he could go on doing what he’s told so we can be business as usual going forward into the future as the country slides more and more into intellectual bankruptcy and poverty etc. etc. etc.

September 15/20

Re. Camden Shooting:
Well, as usual, an unfortunate incident is turned into a witch hunt because the truth simply isn’t exciting enough.
Read the whole story, and you’ll learn that the only part that is “RUMOR” is that the accidental discharge of a firearm was in a BAR.
Are you all on the edge of your couches listening to scanners so you can promptly bring embarrassment and disrespect to the people who would be your first phone call if you needed help?!

Oswego (and living by the truth) Luver

September 15/20

Give oswego back to the Native Americans

Then we can rent it a f**k of a lot cheaper than the insane amount we pay in Taxes!

September 15/20

Camden Rumored Shooting
It was an OTsego off duty officer. Not OSwego. Get your rumors straight.

September 15/20

I just read on Nextdoor that SUNY college kids are being sent in great numbers to WELLNOW Urgent Care on West Utica St....I can't say that they aren't following protocol for the virus but it probably would be best to stay away from there, if possible.

September 15/20

Toots Hibbert: his 10 most essential recordings


September 15/20






Today's Quote September 14/20

If you can't convince them, confuse them.
Harry S Truman

House party:
Went for a ride sat. nite , and went north on 5th ave. and there is a house party , 30 or 40 kids .no distancing,no masks, and drinking . So i saw how concerned SUNY OSWEGO, and PHONEY BARLOW feel about the population !!!!!!!!

September 14/20

Camden shooting
It's a rumor that an off duty oswego sheriff deputy was in a Camden bar and had his weapon discharge and shoot a 12 year old.

September 14/20


Re: Entertaining
Here are a few points in response to the whining about my initial post regarding this sites entertainment value. Offended is a term used by snowflakes, which I am not. “Everyday” is an adjective we use to describe something that's seen or used every day. It means “ordinary” or “typical.” “Every day” is a phrase that simply means “each day.” Each day I am entertained by the failings in basic language and grammar by some of the half-wits on this site. Moron (stupid person) and Moran (warrior) are two different words with completely different meanings. I sincerely doubt the person wishing for a normal America intended to refer to Donald Trump as a warrior. It doesn’t take more than a room temperature IQ to use ‘spell check’ or a dictionary to ensure one’s post is at least the 6th grade level. I look forward to the sniveling in response to this post.

September 14/20

Love those Trump Rally, Wish He Would Hold More
I really love those Trump Rallies, and I think they are very good to watch. Love the way Trump convinces the participants not to wear masks and have no social distancing. It reminds me of the old days when we could did what we wanted to do, and when it was our God given right to have meetings when ane where we want to without that Bullshit social distancing and those stupid masks. I think Trump should increase the number of rallies and increase the number of people at them. Really. Think about it, the more meetings and the more people ignoring the social distancing and no masks, the more exposure, the moreTrumptard Republicans getting Covid-19, the greater the number of them that will die from this exposure, resulting in fewer of those Trumptards that will be able to vote for that fat,orange, narcissistic, lying, piece of shit. I don't even mind paying for his trips on our plane as long as he goes very oftrn and exposes as many of the retard people that could have voted fot thet fat fuck.

September 14/20


Re: Camden shooting
It's a rumor that an off duty oswego sheriff deputy was in a Camden bar and had his weapon discharge and shoot a 12 year old.

September 14/20

The coming wave of defaults


September 14/20






Today's Quote September 12-13/20

To see the right and not to do it is cowardice.

Re: Entertaining Post
Sorry I offended you by misspelling "Moron" I do indeed know how to spell "Moran" It was a mistake, did you ever make a mistake in your life? You must think you're perfect. It is people like you that look for a misspelling mistake are the biggest of "Morons" right along with your "Moronic President Donald J Trump. Have a good day and get a life you "Moran"!

September 12-13/20

In reference to Entertaining post.
To the one picking apart proper spelling of words used on this site....... I have a bulletin for you, Every day in this form should be spelled " Everyday" and knot every day. By the way, I was just being smart on spelling "knot: in case you didn't catch on smartie.

September 12-13/20


RE: Entertaining
There are two ways to spell 'Moron'.either Moron, such as you, or Moran which is a warrior. Just thought it would be nice to let you know.

September 12-13/20

220 Syracuse ave
Saturday 3am heading to work, kid bouncing basket ball, neighbors have to love him. Apparently no parental supervision going on there.

September 12-13/20


Coronavirus reinfections: three questions scientists are asking


September 12-13/20

Raytheon wins contract to connect military aircraft to commercial internet satellites







Today's Quote September 11/20

A strength to harm is perilous in the hand of an ambitious head.
Elizabeth I

Donald Trump says he would make TED CRUZ a Supreme Court justice


September 11/20


September 11/20

How much does H.U.D.
Pay this pillar of Oswego?
?”A LOT”

September 11/20

I love this site. Every day is good for a laugh. “Lazey,” “moran,” and “collage” are particularly entertaining. Illiteracy is alive and well in Oswego!

September 11/20

Robbie Malone
The post I read told how he runs the Ferris wheel and how he ruined the office tavern when he ran that he only leases these places then let’s kids run them he does zero work as superintendent he’s a lazy fat man. He screwed over the office tavern owner he shut it down. Sad they had good food. David Steril had the job with the town before him everything got done then of course everyone is related to the Malone’s out here and fat ass got in. Bad move on the voters part. Well I guess we will never find out what happen to that. Our friend fran H. I had to unfollow on fb he is a big Trump supporter I couldn’t stand for it when he started calling me names good buy Fran your acting nuts like Trump.

September 11/20

Oswego Budget
Need to start over find way to take burden off the taxpayers 20 yrs full pension full medical
130 million a year for city excluding county tax
Madness ,a racket in perpetuity !

September 11/20

Osama Bin Laden's niece writes letter to America

September 11/20






Today's Quote September 10/20

I have learned that only two things are necessary to keep one's wife happy.

First, let her think she's having her own way. And second, let her have it.
Lyndon B. Johnson

Students at Oswego College !
I Know the two builds this girl is staying at there is kitchenette she could warm food up she just lazy. I saw her on TV she from down state these kids a so ruled I know this I worked 20 years. The workers that clean there lazy they just love drama. You know old saying it’s not my job so don’t feel bad for them they make a decent wage and the benefits are good . Housing people which are the workers are LAZEY drama drama !

September 10/20

Enough already...
I hear that there are close to 40 new cases of covid-19 just at SUNY Oswego alone! We pretty much knew from what has happened at other colleges of how it would play out here. Well, it has ...and how many more residents of Oswego will have to pay the price while Deborah Stanley assures all of us that she has got this all under control ? Oswego had very low new infection numbers until the college came back.Now new infections are at a quick up-tick. These kids are/have been shopping in our stores and are in our community daily. Time to suspend on campus classes and have online only.

September 10/20

Make America Normal Again!
The time has come to put an end to this "Soap Opera" that's been going on for almost four years now. It is beyond me how anyone, regardless of their political party or not, can continue to support this moran that we call the President. All he does is degrade and divide the American People. How much can a President care about the American People when he continues to hold his Covid producing rallys with absolutely no social distancing or face covering required? Really? This man is supposed to be looking out for his fellow Americans. He has shown the most unprofessionalism that I have ever seen in politics at any level in my entire life. To call 1800 deceased soldiers losers and suckers is beyond comprehension. Anyone who is currently serving or has served in the United State Military who still supports this moran, I ask why? Is your political party really worth it? This man has now lied and given false statements going on 20,000 times. That's a fact people, is this who you want representing you and your Country? Seriously think about it, if you're not super wealthy he could give two shits about you, all he wants out of you is a vote. If you don't realize by now that it's all about him, you never will. Let's Make America Normal Again.

September 10/20

Reply to Oswego City School District
We are in the middle of a pandemic!

Look at all the colleges that are reporting infections.

Florida had 15,000 new cases in one DAY!

and trump on tv said Florida is doing great 2 days after the report.
The Spanish Flu killed 50 to 100 million people and lasted 10 years

We either conform to the right way or this may go on for many years
Idiots like the Gov of GA, FL, TX have lost control and are doing what trump wants..see what happened.

I do not want to live like this for 3-5 more years.

Trump blew it in the beginning by not making people wear masks in public.
He knew how fast it spread in China and now he blames China for our mess

Schools should remain closed..period!

September 10/20

Re: Backus and Oswego clerk's
I saw Mr. Backus in his office at least once during the times I went to read Gary Thibodeau’s original transcript and other documents in the clerk’s file. All the staff seemed friendly. Mr. Bacon was extremely helpful. Thank you, Oswego Clerk’s Office staff for being so…accommodating and non-judgmental toward me while I was there.

September 10/20

Curtis Manor Owner Pedophile
Curtis Manor is still owned by Tony Pauldine a well known Child Molester in Oswego.
Remember you're supporting a local pedophile next time you think it's cool to have a cocktail there.

September 10/20

Re:flag flying jerk
This site is for karens and kens of oswego obviously. Get on here and complain about something someone else is doing. Get a life and leave this flag flying jerk alone. Yall wanna complain about his flags being obnoxious but how many of you have a dirty yard? Or even decorations that might be offensive to us! About the radio, how many of you have set off fireworks or even played music outside during a bbq? I mean i also have a big truck with a sound system, would take me 5 mins to hang my Confederate flag on it! Many people drive around with flags and sound systems but you pin point one. Well if you cant handle a bunch of rednecks....get out of oswego!

September 10/20

Oswego bar The Ferris Wheel has its liquor license suspended after egregious social distancing violation


September 10/20





Today's Quote September 9/20

Beware the fury of a patient man.
John Dryden

Oswego City School District
ll the other school districts in the county start instruction today. I still don’t know my child’s teacher, what days she’ll be going to school, ANYTHING at all about what remote learning will look like, what materials she will need, or what our lives will even be like next week.
Before I’m chastised for being anti teacher, I’m not. I’m an advocate for my child. And my child isn’t getting what she needs from Oswego City School District and I’ve had enough. Every single school district in this county had to navigate through the same set of circumstances, the same set of regulations, and all the other districts in the county managed to do that and start instruction on time. Oswego pushed back all learning one week and in school instruction 2 weeks and families STILL have no idea what is going on.
Now I hear that even though the governor gave the go ahead for several fall sports, Oswego has just decided not to offer them at all?
At what point do we as parents hold this district accountable to our children? At what point is our child’s right to an education (even in a pandemic) considered essential? Important? Necessary? So many industries have been essential throughout this entire pandemic, have managed to continue to operate even in the peak of all of this. Was it scary? Yes. Was it stressful? Yes. Was it difficult? Yes. They had to figure it out anyway. And now, this state has spent 31 consecutive days with infection rates below 1% and this is what our school district has to offer our kids? It’s unacceptable. Completely unacceptable. It’s been 5 months since my child has had ANY meaningful instruction and this district can’t even start on time with every other district in the county.
And it’s become a taboo subject that god forbid you say anything about or you don’t care about kids or teachers or their lives. It’s enough. These kids need school. They have a right to an education, and it’s the responsibility of our school district to make sure they get it. Period.

September 9/20

John Bucher
Just read John Bucher died as a result of an accident at the county building.

September 9/20

Congress launches investigation after 28 soldiers die at Texas army base this year

September 9/20

Now it's just the middle of nowhere!


September 9/20




August 15-17/20



Today's Quote August 10/20

What do you despise? By this you are truly known.

Do Any Of You People
know how Seal Team Six identities where revealed ( raid ) ?
Biden news briefing where he let it all out !


In point of fact, the claim that Biden “publicly revealed the identity of the special-operations unit responsible for bin Laden’s killing” is demonstrably false. He did not identify the unit involved in the attack. He did, however, acknowledge the involvement of Navy SEALs more generally. This fact had been widely reported before Biden made his remarks.


August 10/20



At the time I did not know who was behind them but it is widely known now it was the work of Vladimir Putin and his KGB internet trolls. They established a network over which conspiracy theories and half true stories along with doctored photographs were disseminated for the purpose swaying voters toward their puppet Donald Trump. Many of them were passed on by unsuspecting or gullible people and ended up in the LION Inbox. I have better things to do than verifying these fake facts which have already been debunked by SNOPES or other sites. Therefore I again urge readers to verify political emails especially those that seem too good to be true, before sending them in to this site. If I get three of these posts from any one person that poster will then be black listed and unable to post anything on this site.


Is this what I pay these assholes to do with my hard earned taxed dollars?

August 4/20

Oswego County sheriff’s boat flies Trump political flag at boat rally


August 4/20




…….maybe if some weren’t concentrating on…..never mind, Greg.
While I do agree that 15 days is probably not long enough, exculpatory (ALL) evidence should be turned over 60 days BEFORE TRIAL. That is “just and fair” for the defense, NO? The defense shouldn’t have to waste everyone’s time with specifically requesting evidence known to exist.

Is this why Cieszeski is no longer in the Oswego County District Attorney’s office?


February 28- March 2/20



Today's Quote February 27/20

We choose our joys and sorrows long before we experience them.
Khalil Gibran

Carona Virus
Did you feel the ground shake from the wave of uproarious laughter which swept across the country when trump named Mike Pence as the man in charge of coordinating the country’s response to the corona virus?

In yet another incoherent rambling speech, which basically summarized many of his previous uninformed and just plain stupid comments, Trump said nothing that would lead the educated public to believe our government had any idea of how to deal with the Corona Virus. He continued to play down the seriousness implying that in a short period of time there would only be five cases of the virus in the US. He also said there was a vaccine being developed that could be ready in a couple months.


Only minutes later an official who knew what he was talking about explained that the most advanced vaccine candidate was about two months from finishing its phase one trial and another trial for efficacy, (will it really work) taking at least eight months would follow. Typically phase one trials are one year. So it would be at least a year, best case scenario, before the vaccine could be available and that is if there are no adverse side effects and if it is granted special approval allowing it to go to market without Phase three testing to determine what dosage is safe for what part of the population. So if all the stars do not fall into alignment it could easily be two even two and a half years before the vaccine makes it to the public. Probably the best hope is Gilead Sciences which is starting two stage three trials of its Remdesivir that was previously tested in people infected with Ebola. Other drugs marketed by Gilead include Biktarvy, Descovy, Truvada, Epclusa, Harvoni, Sovaldi, and Tamiflu.

Something else to consider is the manufacture of the vaccine. I do not know if it is true but I heard long ago most flue type vaccine is now made in China. Surgical masks, gowns and other medical supplies that are needed are also largely made in China. With a population of 1.4 billion who do you think the Chinese will make vaccine and masks for first.?

There needs to be a world wide effort to take over the manufacture of all necessary medical supplies currently made in China. There are too many eggs in that one basket but that is thinking too far out of the box for Trump and his worshipers.

February 27/20


Nursing homes and assisted living.
I worked at Pontiac for 3 years. Please oh please whatever you do, do NOT consider putting your loved there. It is a death trap. Verna who was found responsible for 3 of the 20 deaths in 3 months is now at Bishops Commons. I also worked there and saw them isolate a woman in her room, except when her family was around. It was horrible. Her dementia was too advanced to belong there, but seeing she was a widow of a judge with lots of cash they didnt want to let her go. Both places are horrible. And The Gardens is so disorganized I lasted a day. I recommend Syracuse Home in B'ville. And Buckley Landing in North Syr. For assisted living. Its a drive but worth it for the care .

It would be easier to name the few good ones than all the bad ones. When the Oswego Hospital had an in-house nursing facility it was very good. When they opened Seneca Hell Manor and moved everything up there it turned into a horror show. It was run by a short fat little blonde bitch. I think her name was McGinnis or McGillis. She lied to the families 24-7.
I have only met one person who had something good to say about Pontic since the day it opened.

I personally dealt with a place in Liverpool called Birchwood, I think it is now called Elderwood which was supposed to be the best place to go for rehab. There was ariconditioning only on the first floor. You had to fight with the staff to get the minimum care and treatment prescribed by the referring physician and the beds were manually operated. So if you were able to get out of bed an operate the hand crank at the foot of the bed you were OK otherwise you were screwed.


Loretto on the south end of Syracuse was another hell hole. The staff there did not walk they shuffeled. Their rehab was a joke and the place was filthy.

I visited Sunrise in Oswego back in the late 90s looking for a place to locate a friend. The halls were full of people in wheelchairs hoping to catch a breeze from the fans placed in front of exit doors, which were covered by homemade wooden screens. The stench of urine was everywhere. Before I left I was told how they were going to install air conditioners that would be available at a small additional cost. That is the same bullshit story they were telling the day that place opened.
I went to St. Lukes once around 1998 looking to place my mother for rehab. There I dealt with Another lying bitch named Tara Fitzgibbons. She was cherry-picking looking for patients they could make the most money off of. That practice was totally illegal. I am still waiting for her to return my call. Oddly enough a few years later, when my mother was emptying her safe deposit box at City Savings now Pathfinder, who did we have to deal with but Tara. She was supposed to be in charge of that department but one of the underlings had to explain to her what needed to be done. Then a month later she tried to bill my mother for the key which had been returned the day the box was emptied and the rental terminated. Once again a situation had to be rectified because of her incompetence.

In my experience there is no such thing as a good nursing home just some that are worse than others. At their best they give children a false sense of Mom or Dad being cared for in their final years. In reality they are wharehouses for the sick and dying. Their only goal is to make as much money as they possibly can off of each resident while providing the bare minimum in care.


February 17-18/2020



Limbaugh & Trump

How many people have I heard say they would not wish Limbaugh's stage 4 Lung Cancer on anyone?


I Would!


There are hundreds of thousands of people who are just as sick or worse than him but they did not suck Trump's little dick to get an undeserved medal for it.


He is a worthless lowlife piece of shit and nothing would make me happier than to hear he got hit by a bus and cheated out of what ever time he had left.


The only possible thing which could, trump, that is if Marine One crashed and burned with Donnie and his entire in-bread moron family onboard.


I have not had a drink in thirty years but I would crack a bottle of champagne for that one.


January 19-20/2020



Peebles For The People
If you have or had any interest at all in the Heidi Allen / Thibodeau case,

this pod cast is a must listen to!


January 14-15/2020



Your sleezy first lady


December 31/19




Fire department
Does anyone know if our resident fire department THIEF is one of the firefighters being laid off? If not he should be.
Looks like he is trying to impersonate a Fire Chief, maybe he is going to apply for the Chief's job next year.



Neither the Federal nor the State governments

have ever mandated that the City of Oswego

raise its water or sewer rates.

Anyone who says they did is a F**KING LIAR!!!!!!




Today's Quote  August 6/15

“It's your life. Live it with people who are alive. It tends to be contagious.”
Peter McWilliams


Oswego Firefighter Sentenced

Last night in Minetto Town Court Oswego firefighter and former Minetto fire chief Joe Smegelsky Jr. received the maximum sentence of $1000 and two years probation despite arguments from the District Attorney Greg Oaks and defense lawyer Timothy Kirwan. They had hoped for a lesser sentence but based on information in Smegelsky's pre sentencing report the maximum punishment was handed down.


An audit by the State Comptrollers office found that Smegelsky had taken funds and used a department credit card to purchase a handgun, automotive parts and assorted items. He also created a fictitious company which sold fire equipment from undisclosed sources to the Minetto Department. District Attorney Oaks repeatedly argued for special treatment because Smegelsky had paid back slightly less than half of what the Comptrollers office found. However the fact remains he paid nothing back until he was caught.



Joeseph Smegelsky Jr.


Below is a copy of the District Attorney's plea bargain and his explaination of how they arrived at it.

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Today's Quote, January 26/15

"I am not an enemy of the negro, we want him here among us; he is the only laboring class we have."
Nathan Bedford Forrest


One week ago we celebrated Martin Luther King Day. I am sure members of the Ozwego Fire Department seized the opportunity to rack up some double overtime but that is about the only use they have for non-whites.

Since its inception in 1876 the Oswego Fire Department has been as white as the driven snow, with respect to the color of its members that is. In its 139 year history there has never been an Asian, Black or Hispanic member. If you think this somehow reflects the population then you better take off your blinders. Oswego’s elected officials and Personnel Department have long allowed department members to live as far away as Montour Falls, Watertown, and Groton. There is no way you can cast a net that far and say, that population is reflected by our department.

In the late 1980’s there was young Black man working for the local cable company who sometimes frequented the Fire House Tavern as did members of the OFD. The firefighters exam had been announced and he was asking some of the OFD members if they thought he had a chance of getting in. He received all kinds of encouragement while he was there but after he left I overheard two of the Heroes chuckling and say no way they were going to let him in the department. “We have Guinias and Polocks and that is as integrated as we are going to get.” I do not know if the man ever took the test but the fact is that department remains as segregated as the day it was formed. They are allowed to operate as their own little fiefdom picking and choosing their own white membership and no one has the balls to put a stop to it.

The next time our Senators and Congressmen come around for their photo ops with our Hero Department we should all point out to the national media how they are supporting a racist organization. Perhaps we should ask the NAACP how this has been overlooked by their organization for so long.
                                                                                                                            Jan 26/15





Joseph Smegelsky


Audit of Minetto fire chief charged with misusing $22K in funds for guns, motorcycle parts completed
"This individual had keys to the cash register and went on a spending spree with the fire company's money," DiNapoli said in a statement.


                                                                                                                    Dec 20/14

Today's Quote, July 2/14


“Thieves respect property. They merely wish the property to become their property that they may more perfectly respect it.”
G. K. Chesterton

Oswego's finest screwing the taxpayers once again spotted at Dicks Sporting Goods in Great Northern Mall on 6/22/14.....didn't know they sold food there....or were they perhaps getting a new set up clubs at our expense??? Would still like to see the tab for the turning stone "conference" they went to....a whole weekend at the turning stone??? meals, rooms, drinks, etc???? The worst part is it will never change. No matter who is mayor they will always be controlled by the f.d. and no one will run against our current council members. Oswego has become homeowners to few (I stand corrected good homeowners) and is a city full of renters.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14

That was probably just Smegelsky picking up some guns. They should be checking the video at Dicks to see who was with him. That hero should be arrested too.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14

Minetto Chief
People like that are paranpiod about someone else stealing what they just stole so naturally he would need to get a gun to protect all his or should I say our stuff.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14


Ambulance Numbers

Yes, they are not as correct as they should be as I left off the 2 additional firemen that go out on Ambulance #2 and many of the other expenses that can be attributed to the ambulance service . In reality here is a $300,000 loss each year without he expense of a new ambulance. The point is, we will never make a profit on this service; have a fully qualified ambulance located in Oswego (Menter) that can handle all emergencies; could cut 15 men from the department with all their benefits and return $2,000,000 to the taxpayers; while cutting the long term obligation of retirement and the padding of such for years to come.
Unfortunately, the obtuse Mayor, Council, and most of all ,Fire Chief, have another agenda and it is not in the best interest of he taxpayers. McCrobie probably was, at one time, a good fireman, but as a chief and leader lacks in total credibility. The way overtime is handed out only shows that he is helping to bump up he retirement of the soon to retire firemen by thousands of taxpayers dollars. There is a belief that hey will all get their turn is the OT merry-go-round, but the fact is, the tier 6 firemen will never see that benefit. The new anti padding law passed and signed by he governor will not allow tier 6 employees to add any more than $15,000 to their retirement benefits, and they will now have to go for the last 5 years instead of 3. If I were a tier 6, I would tell the tier 5's to stick their $50.00 they pay for the OT and start taking their share of the OT, because it will all be ending when all the tier 5's retire.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14

Minetto Fire Chief
I asked a few weeks ago if anybody knew what was going on with Minetto's Fire Chief well here you go.
Stole $20,000 from the fire department. I'm going to guess he possibly stole more since he's being held with no bail. Coinsedently though he just bought a piece of property behind his own for $20,000. Don't believe me? Here's the property taxes. Coincident? You should take a drive by his property to check it out. Constantly cars & trucks are being 'stored' there and then disappear. Camper was there for a whole summer now that's gone. I even seen the Minetto's fire truck pull up to his vacant property hook on a utility trailer with all the fireman in it and take off. Now Minetto Fire Dept has plenty of property to store at their station. Why would they use his? I offend wondered why a property owner who only has 1/4 acre of grass need a 0 point turn lawn mower? Probably the fire departments.



                                                                                                                    July 2/14




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