January 17/18


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Today's Quote January 17/2018

I wouldn't change one thing about my professional life,

and I make it a point not to dwell on my mistakes.
Ethel Merman

I was wondering who owns the property at the ,northwest corner of east 10th and mohawk st. I was told our DPW commissioner Mr. Kells ,owns this , and you HAVE TO WALK IN THE ROAD to get by this mess, i have almost gotten hit trying to PULL OUT INTO the intersection, several times . HE TELLS OTHERS TO KEEP CORNERS OPEN must be he is exempt being MR. BIG !!!!!!!! Older people with walkers,canes etc. have to go out in the road to get AROUND THIS MESS . CLEAN IT UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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oswegonylion home page
Just saw an older woman walking across Utica St. Bridge in the road. Walks were not cleared, shame. shame Mr.Kells. PS She also had a walker.
                                                                                                                       January 16/18

Trump administration will ask Supreme Court to allow it to end DACA

                                                                                                                       January 16/18

Murtagh Real Winner
Lovely idea Murtagh had today posting across fb that he promises the Thibodeau family they soon won't have a place to lay their heads. When asked if it was a threat. He responded it was a promise. Well here is one hell of a promise to good ol Dickie. Everything you have ever posted is and has been recorded. Not by OCSD, the joke. But a dept. That doesn't arrest souly on assumption. Here's another promise Good ol lying Dickie, anything happens at all to any of their family. Your posts will be directed straight to the news and the FBI. What has happened to you Murtagh is not the Thibodeaus fault. It is of your own doing. You can also thank your group of under achieving wanna be gangster friends Steen, Breckenridge, Bohrer whom all reported your name, directly or through each other. Along with Ms. Westcott who threw you under the bus 4 years ago. Not one person other than your own clan ever reported you and your actions in this case other than the very company you kept. You deserve every ounce of back lash. Not them, YOU. Pretty sad Dickie you can't accept the sick shit you've actively been a part of. What's your issue? Afraid telling the truth you'll lose everything you've ever earned, through your drug trading in the 90's. What does it matter if you do? You were a direct part of taking the life and everything of 2 others. It's called Karma. In 4 days the ball starts rolling in the direction of bringing you straight to your knees. Best start praying now. You are going to need it. I would start wheeling and dealing Murtagh. I was told this. "The first one whom does is saved the rest will burn in hell. "
                                                                                                                       January 16/18

Liz Cheney U.S. lawmakers urge AT&T to cut commercial ties with Huawei
Exclusive: U.S. lawmakers urge AT&T to cut commercial ties with Huawei - sources

U.S. lawmakers are urging AT&T Inc, the No. 2 wireless carrier, to cut commercial ties to Chinese phone maker Huawei Technologies Co Ltd and oppose plans by telecom operator China Mobile Ltd to enter the U.S. market because of national security concerns, two congressional aides said.
                                                                                                                       January 16/18

My first “smart” phone was a Huawei.  Beileve me no one has anything to fear from a company that makes phones that are that fu**ed up.

Foreign governments, candidates, trade groups spent at Trump properties: report

Sixty-four trade groups, foreign governments, Republican candidates and others stayed at or held events at properties linked to U.S. President Donald Trump during Trump's first year in office, a political watchdog group said in a report released on Tuesday.
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Today's Quote January 16/2018

A learned fool is more a fool than an ignorant fool.

Syracuse should set example and plow city-owned sidewalks
This goes for Oswego also. The city picks and choses which public walk they want to do, Or if Kells likes you.

                                                                                                                       January 16/18

N.J. governor plans a swing to the left — and a model for the country

                                                                                                                       January 16/18

Oswego City School District Fake enrollment reported for Bond Anticipation Note
In Oct of 2016, the OCSD Board of Education and the OSWEG City School District Officials applied for a renewal of a Bond Anticipation Note for the sum of $14,200.000- Note 2016A. This required that they report a lot of data regarding city property taxes, city income levels and student enrollment. This is used to show the need for the loan and the stability of the district. Reading the report and comparing enrollment, a red flag popped up. The enrolment numbers supplied by the school district are different than those reported to the New York State Education Department. Seems the OCSD business office inflated the enrollment numbers to show an increase in enrollment rather than a decrease to make a more positive case to secure the loan. There are a lot of people who are responsible for the accuracy of this loan data to include the BOE, Office of the Superintendent, and outside firms that worked on the application. Here are the enrollment numbers from the application as compared to the enrollment numbers that were reported to the state.

These enrollment data are collected as part of NYSED's Student Information Repository System (SIRS) reported by the OCSD. This shows enrollment steady decrease.

2016-17........3674.....down 280 students

Here are the numbers for enrollment reported by the OCSD Office for the Bond Anticipation Note 2016A which shows an inflated enrollment instead of a decreasing enrollment. Something smells over at OCSD. This shows steady enrollment increase.

2016-17........ projection as numbers were not available steady enrollment with a increase of 36

Makes you wonder what else they inflated?

Board of Eduction
Glad to see that the Schoolboard is so lacking in students needs ( some want to go to a trade )

Did the “ board “ look at vocational teaching ?

Did the “ board “ look at tri-semesters at the mid school and high school level ?

Did the “board “ tell the taxpayers of the decline in enrollment ?

Did the ‘ board ‘ and the dpw ,talk about school bus stops ( snow clearing for the students )?

And who is the aldermen person responsible for the side walks at Oak Hill Park ?

And a city and former board of education member lives with in feet of this school bus stop, but yet ,No concern over students education and direction !

Yep, I would be REAL PROUD to pay this Super of Schools $ 250,000.00 ,PLUS Health Insurance ( for life ) , plus pension(for life ), plus the Salary he will draw ( for life ) ! So I guess the taxpayers of Oswego, the board of education ( wish the had business skills ) to see that the taxpayers are going to pay almost $ 1,000,000.00 per year , for the rest of his life , and his wife , has the same business deal !
                                                                                                                       January 16/18

Oak Hill Park...
…still the sidewalks are not cleared! Who is the alderperson in charge of that area ?, Or is Britt Hills more Important ? Oak Hill Park is a School Bus pick up and drop off ! And nice to see that Kells and mini me , are working for the next taxpayer rip off ! And I will bet that the Board of Education ( tax collectors ) are planning their next taxpayer take over !
                                                                                                                       January 16/18







Today's Quote January 15/2018

In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

Kells has the DPW workers so pissed off they won’t come in for the snow storms. That is why there was only one plow working Christmas and more recently they have only had three plows operating because they can’t get anyone to drive the others. Barlow don’t have a clue just like Trump he tells people what they want to hear. It’s all bullshit and lies.
                                                                                                                       January 15/18

New alarm among Republicans that Democrats could win big this year

                                                                                                                       January 15/18

Scotty picks and chooses the calls they take too. You were lucky you got someone to come.
                                                                                                                       January 15/18






Today's Quote January 13-14/2018

From birth to age 18 a girl needs good parents.

From 18 to 35 she needs good looks.

From 35 to 55 she needs a good personality.

From 55 on, she needs good cash.
Sophie Tucker

$60,000,000 Spending Plan for Oswego City School District proposed by OCSGD School Bosard
Realize this is long, but every tax payer in the OCSD should read this, and get out for the March 2018 vote, and vote down the delusional actions of an out of control School Board and the District Superintendent, Goewey. The below article was for the 2015-2016 budget, only two years ago advocating major cuts and eliminating most sports programs. Now they want to build a $27,000,000 sports complex at the high school.( see plan at the end of this posting) We have a student population that is going down each year and are still paying the average teacher over $65,000 per year along with fantastic benefits and retirements that are unbelievable. What happened; did the district win the Power Ball? No, they are just going to raise your taxes. I am sure that there are some upgrades and repairs that need to be made at the schools, but it is time to again look at eliminating a school, rather than spending $60,000,000 on this foolish plan. If the board was doing their job, these repairs would have been made each year in the budget, but the board used building repair money to boost teachers salaries that were already too high. (see attached article below). I can not imagine constructing an artificial turf football field with seating for 1,000 people, when we only get, at best 50-100 people at any of the football games. To add an additional 200 parking spots at the high school is ridiculous, let alone adding another tennis court when the existing five are never used.

Oswego City school budget cuts 51 jobs, some sports teams, including football
Updated Apr 8, 2016; Posted Apr 7, 2016
Oswego Buccaneers play the Fulton Red Raiders in this 2014 file photo. The Oswego City School District's proposed budget cuts football and other sports teams. (David Lassman | dlassman@syracuse.com, 2014)
By Sarah Moses
OSWEGO, N.Y. -- The Oswego City School District's proposed budget for the 2016-17 school year cuts 51 positions and eliminates all modified sports and cuts some junior varsity and varsity sports teams, including football.
The school district faces a $5 million budget gap, according to Oswego City schools Superintendent Dean Goewey. Goewey, who took office in November, said he warned the school board that this was going to be a difficult budget season.
"It's heartbreaking that we are in this position," Goewey said.
The budget gap is largely caused by a shrinking PILOT (payment in lieu of taxes) agreement with Exelon Corp., the owner of the Nine Mile Point Nuclear Station. The district will receive $3 million less from the agreement for the 2016-17 school year compared to the current school year. The district also faces rising health care costs, dwindling reserves and not enough state aid, Goewey said.
Goewey said the district used $3 million in reserves and raised taxes by nearly 10 percent to balance the current budget. For the 2016-17 budget, Goewey said he wanted to focus on reducing spending.
The proposed budget for the 2016-17 school year is $79,510,611, which is 4.2 percent less than the current budget, which is $82,847,354. The proposed budget caries a 2.5 percent tax increase, which would equal a $52.98 tax increase on a $100,000 home.
Here's a look at the proposed athletic cuts and costs:
· Varsity and Junior Varsity Football: $59,270
· Football cheerleaders: $20,253
· Freshman basketball: $8,491
· Girls Varsity Hockey: $25,620
· Varsity Wrestling: $24,034
· Girl's Junior Varsity Tennis: $5,960
· Indoor Track (Girls & Boys): $20,831
· All Modified Sports: $190,015
· Equipment: $10,000
The total savings from the athletic cuts is $364,474. The costs include coaching salaries, officials, transportation, equipment and other fees.
The proposed budget also includes the reduction of staff. About 50 positions will be eliminated. Although some positions will be eliminated with retirements, other eliminated positions will result in people losing their jobs, Goewey said.
The proposed position cuts would be about a 10 percent staff reduction for the district, which employed 472 people in the 2014-15 school year, according to the state.
Here's a look at the proposed staff cuts:
· 8 elementary teachers
· 3 elementary physical education teachers
· 1 elementary social worker
· 2 elementary instructional coaches
· 1 elementary speech therapist
· 1 middle school PLATO (language arts) teacher
· 1 middle school art teacher
· 1 middle school technology teacher
· 1 middle school health teacher
· 2 middle school teaching assistants
· 1 high school art teacher
· 2 high school English teachers
· 1 high school social studies teacher
· 1 high school GED teacher
· 1 high school science teacher
· 1 high school technology teacher
· 1 high school language teacher
· 4 custodians
· 7 library clerks
· 1 security
· 8 typists
· 1 central office clerical position
· 1 personnel reduction
The staff cuts will save the district $2.6 million. Goewey has agreed to take a $27,140 cut in his salary.
He said he also approached the district's four unions to seek a salary freeze or to make other concessions. Goewey said two unions, the administrators union and the non-instructional administrators union, agreed to salary freezes for the 2016-17 school year.
The district's largest union represents its teachers. The union and the school have not agreed on a salary freeze at this time. Roger Sprague, the president of the Oswego Classroom Teachers Association, said the union is willing to make concessions.
Oswego city teachers were the fifth highest paid teachers in Central New York out of 58 districts based on the median salary, according to state Education Department data for the 2014-15 school year. The median salary in the district was $64,375.
The Oswego City school board will meet again on April 19 and the public will vote on the budget on May 17.
If voters defeat the budget, the school board will be given three options. They can put a revised budget up for a second vote, put the same budget up for a second vote or move directly to a contingency budget. A contingency budget would require the district to go back to the 2015-16 tax levy, which would require the district to cut an additional $704,246 from the budget.
Here's a look at the proposed athletic cuts and costs:
· Varsity and Junior Varsity Football: $59,270
· Football cheerleaders: $20,253
· Freshman basketball: $8,491
· Girls Varsity Hockey: $25,620
· Varsity Wrestling: $24,034
· Girl's Junior Varsity Tennis: $5,960
· Indoor Track (Girls & Boys): $20,831
· All Modified Sports: $190,015
· Equipment: $10,000
The total savings from the athletic cuts is $364,474. The costs include coaching salaries, officials, transportation, equipment and other fees.
The proposed budget also includes the reduction of staff. About 50 positions will be eliminated. Although some positions will be eliminated with retirements, other eliminated positions will result in people losing their jobs, Goewey said.
The proposed position cuts would be about a 10 percent staff reduction for the district, which employed 472 people in the 2014-15 school year, according to the state.
Here's a look at the proposed staff cuts:
· 8 elementary teachers
· 3 elementary physical education teachers
· 1 elementary social worker
· 2 elementary instructional coaches
· 1 elementary speech therapist
· 1 middle school PLATO (language arts) teacher
· 1 middle school art teacher
· 1 middle school technology teacher
· 1 middle school health teacher
· 2 middle school teaching assistants
· 1 high school art teacher
· 2 high school English teachers
· 1 high school social studies teacher
· 1 high school GED teacher
· 1 high school science teacher
· 1 high school technology teacher
· 1 high school language teacher
· 4 custodians
· 7 library clerks
· 1 security
· 8 typists
· 1 central office clerical position
· 1 personnel reduction
The staff cuts will save the district $2.6 million. Goewey has agreed to take a $27,140 cut in his salary.
He said he also approached the district's four unions to seek a salary freeze or to make other concessions. Goewey said two unions, the administrators union and the non-instructional administrators union, agreed to salary freezes for the 2016-17 school year.
The district's largest union represents its teachers. The union and the school have not agreed on a salary freeze at this time. Roger Sprague, the president of the Oswego Classroom Teachers Association, said the union is willing to make concessions.
Oswego city teachers were the fifth highest paid teachers in Central New York out of 58 districts based on the median salary, according to state Education Department data for the 2014-15 school year. The median salary in the district was $64,375.
The Oswego City school board will meet again on April 19 and the public will vote on the budget on May 17.
If voters defeat the budget, the school board will be given three options. They can put a revised budget up for a second vote, put the same budget up for a second vote or move directly to a contingency budget. A contingency budget would require the district to go back to the 2015-16 tax levy, which would require the district to cut an additional $704,246 from the budget. "No one likes to see these reductions, but this is where we are at as a district," Goewey said.
                                                                                                                       January 13-14/18

To the mayor
Hey Mayor, Kells...your 24 hr shifts are not, have not worked. It's stupidity at its finest. Should the taxpayer be shoveling side streets just to get to the main street? I would think not, but that's exactly what I had to do. The streets, yea, blow your own horn Barlow, are treacherous. Not from the snow, but from the foot and a half deep holes that will destroy your car. Yup, bent a rim from these holes. Traffic cones and orange barrels on 104, that people are running into, the cops closing off side streets, because the snow is too deep for cars. Cars getting stuck on Bridge St, because you and your buddy Kells decided to fill trucks with salt not just sand. This city is in disarray. Toot your own horn Barlow. How much does Broadwell give you to make sure his businesses are plowed? How much money is in your safe? You keep taking, and the taxpayer gets f***ed! Late afternoon and the bridges sidewalks aren't cleared??? Saving money my ass. There is now not enough people in a shift to do the job, thus calling in people. Aside from the 20 friends, who support you, and got jobs and drawing more payroll, what will come out of your lying mouth? You have lied to the taxpayer too many times. Water and sewer rates are going up folks. As well, hired more firefighters to take a chunk of the taxpayer dollar. Again, is your safe getting full? Friends of Barlow my ass. Albany needs to follow the money! Why should we the taxpayer pay for all of your friends snow removal? Your mommy and daddy's driveway...and the list goes on. You want Gosek to stay on, which makes you as bad as he. Are you taking it up the ass? The taxpayer certainly is! Barlow, you need to go, your in it for the money, not the people who PAY your salary! But again, you don't need a salary when your receiving money from the ones you are in business with.
                                                                                                                       January 13-14/18

Barlow,Kells,all Dpw workers you all suck
                                                                                                                       January 13-14/18

Smart People
Are the City Aldermen the Best For the Taxpayers of Oswego, NY ?
Are the School Board Members Best For The Taxpayers and Students of Oswego in this declining oswego economy (lack of steady income jobs above min. wage , for starts ) and collecting social asst. is not income !

And a Water Park ( Broardwell ) is going to produce what in net revs.
cost to taxpayers, and will Mr. Kells, keep it clean, personally, or just sit in front of his computer, tracking the workers !

After all , a real leader would INSPECT what needs to be done in the field, ask and talk to the workers, making sure that they have safety green or orange, with of course ,and I will bet the Mr. Kells does not know the insurance and OSHA requirements !

And give him a 10 year Contract ? Would you give the Super of Schools, the Board of Education , The Mayor of Oswego , The head Person who claims to be in charge of the Oswego Library, the Aldermen, Port of Oswego, just to name a few, a TEN YEAR CONTRACT ?
                                                                                                                       January 13-14/18

Towing on Saturday
Have you ever called a tow company that would not come help? I have I called Myers towing this morning and the recommendation was try rock Salt or call someone else.
Thanks Myers the salt really helped my truck that was stuck backwards in a snow bank . Thank you Scotty's towing even though it took a little bit due to you guys being so busy you were great.
If you wonder why business fails for some people the answer is lack of gumption and a world full of self pity . I will thank you for your advice to call somebody else. It was priceless information. I will always call someone else from now on.


No explanation needed
                                                                                                                       January 13-14/18






Today's Quote January 12/2018

Men often oppose a thing merely because they have had no agency in planning it,

or because it may have been planned by those whom they dislike.
Alexander Hamilton

Kells council
No surprise there about Kells wanting more. Have to foil and check out the campaign contributions, that will tell the tale. Kells wants a ten year term so he can keep all his new employees sitting pretty in their over paying positions that they are not qualified for. Like his girlfriend the Foreman of god only knows what. Get's a truck and also gets to take it home. Just when did you get your GED? Did you score in the top 3 on your Civil Service test? Kells wants to keep his circle tight so he can continue helping himself to city property. Why is the Flexo building off limits to city workers but his maintenance man has been seen there? The Mayor will continue to toot his own horn to make himself and his buddy look good. Meanwhile, taxes and sewage fees will rise and good working people will be left out in the cold so friends of these two can be taken care of.
                                                                                                                       January 12/18

Kells To A Ten Year Contract ?
I would not have this person gather shopping carts at War-Mart !
                                                                                                                       January 12/18

Oak Hill Park Sidewalks
How come Oak Hill Park side walks not cleared ? Was not cleared last year !

So you would think that the new aldermen would be all over this ( Mr. Ron T ) 6 th ward ?

I will bet that Britt Hills will get the needed relief !
                                                                                                                       January 12/18

RE: 2018 Common Council
Now that is a smart bunch of puppets. They look like some people that Trump would pick for some backwood shady behind the lock door type of deals.
                                                                                                                       January 12/18







Today's Quote January 10-11/2018

There is no short cut to achievement.

Life requires thorough preparation - veneer isn't worth anything.

George Washington Carver


2018 Common Council
Well ladies and gentelman of Oswego this is the council that Napolian Tom Kells bought and paid for so he could get the city charter changed to grab a ten year term as dpw head. The last council threw out the residentcy requirement so he could except his boughten job now this council will change the charter and do as their told and give him a nice fat ten year contract. Every one of them hand picked and checked to make sure that they'll tote the party line. I know that theirs a couple of Dems on their but they'll cheerfully do what their told to do just like the Dem that didn't seek reelection.

Tell your councilperson that your aware of this and demand that they do not consider this change. Of coarse they'll lie and say that it hasn't been brought up but its coming.

                                                                                                                       January 10-11/18

Trump Renominates Court Picks Rated 'Not Qualified' To Serve

                                                                                                                       January 10-11/18

The Oswego School Board
What a bunch of pin heads , how come the taxpayers of the school district ( oswego ) were not told of the thought of school expansion ?

And what is the cost to the taxpayers for hiring King and King ?

And has the Schoolboard told the taxpayers of the Dist. that school enrollment is down 24 %

And has the Schoolboard told the taxpayers of the Dist. that they will not discipline or suspend a student ( by the state of new york ) ,that they
will lose monies !

And how about Leighton school, the lowest enrollment, and yet $ 12,000,000.00 to build what ? All the NEW OFFICES for the PEOPLE that work over at the Oswego High School that DO NOT Have Windows In Their Office Spaces ! Boy, Talk About Greed Act The Taxpayers Pocketbook !

And another thought that I am sure the Schoolboard and mini- me have covered, Vocational Highschool and tri- semesters for the schools ! a lot more will be gained for the Students and the teachers will have a chance to reload on teaching curriculum between semesters . No more two months off ! I bet that makes some of the teachers happy and the board Members and the Super, will always have to be in the area in case of a issue !

Time to step up to the plate ! You wanted the Tittle, Do the Job, or Get Out of the Way !
                                                                                                                       January 10-11/18

Democrats.org: Change that Matters

                                                                                                                       January 10-11/18






Today's Quote January 9/2018

Common sense is not so common.

Oswego City Library
The question has been asked, "Why are our taxes so high for the Public Library"? Take a few minutes to stop in there sometime and you will quickly find out. It is VERY OVERSTAFFED! The workers all sit around the desk area and talk, quite loudly, disturbing those who come there for a quiet place to read or do research. I very seldom go there anymore because it has become quite a zoo. When the patrons that come to the library hear the library workers being so disrespectful, they start carrying on to. It is unlike any library I have ever visited in any city around the country.
                                                                                                                       January 9/18


Fulton sales new and used 1 hr ·
anyone please do not give your name or address to Rich Murtaugh he is not someone you want to do bussiness with.

Besides he is reselling used, and returned goods from WAL MART. Useless. Must be his junk yards taking a hit. Do yourself a favor. Don't buy from this con artist. You want to know what Murtaghs all about. Go to Syracuse.com search his name read all of his comments. I know state police and Feds did.
                                                                                                                       January 9/18

Jeff Sessions’ Marijuana Adviser Wants Doctors to Drug-Test Everyone


                                                                                                                       January 9/18

Murtagh lmao
Murtaghs over on Facebook Fulton new and Used site, playing his. I'm innocent status. And claiming there's nothing on him in the news. Well Murtagh you'll wake up to every word you ever posted online about the Heidi case linked to it. On top of it. Gonna link Bohrer, Steen and Wescotts comments about you. You can thank the 3 amigos who ratted you in . Your own friends Dickie are the very ones who gave up your name. Unless all 3 have psychic ability. I highly doubt 3 different people at different times, places and dates, give up the same man's name. Especially Steen, seeing as he is in prison. Unless Bohrer and Westcott took a road trip to meet w Steen, and made up this story. Its a tad obvious Murtagh you had far more to do with this case than you'll ever be willing to admit. Takes a big person to be honest. In which case Dickie is not...he never has been. Nor will he ever be.
                                                                                                                       January 9/18

Kushner Cos. Got $30 Million Israeli Investment Ahead of First Diplomatic Visit


                                                                                                                       January 9/18







Today's Quote January 5-6/2018

Never keep up with the Joneses. Drag them down to your level.”
Quentin Crisp

Jeff Sessions Begins Long Anticipated Crackdown On State-Legal Marijuana

No one takes that little piss ant seriously and no one is going to take his crackdown seriously either.

                                                                                                                       January 5-6/18

It is 2018 and the Fools are in Charge
1) Gardner is now the County Treasurer...This is just another fool filling the seat of Beardsley, the previous fool that was a high school drop-out.
2) Broadwell will now be the fool, filling the seat of the fool, Gardener.
3) Weatherup is the fool the will fill the seat of the fool Broadwell.
4) Emmons as new fool on the legislature and will fill the seat of the previous fool. Not only is Emmons a fool, he was a fool on the council that was useless.
5) The fools on the Board of Education just passed a spending bill for a new stadium at the high school for $60,000,000 and another tax increase.
6) The fool kid mayor is still trying to do his pie in the sky and has increased taxes twice in two years, and we still have a taxpayer funded ambulance.
7) And to sum it all up, the new book Fire and Furry has confirmed, in no uncertain terms, that Trump is confirmed to be a fool and unfit to sit in the seat as president.
Looks like 2018 will just be a mirror image of 2017, the fools are still in-charge !!!!
                                                                                                                       January 5-6/18

Snow Clearing
So the city of Oswego, ny will clear snow from non taxpaying business, but the people that OWN BUSINESS, THEY have to pay for SNOW REMOVAL ? How about that business on east 3 rd and bridge st. Would this be a business owned by kells ?

And the school board sees $ 23,000,000.00 to fix the high school ? what ? We build buildings of this size at ?30,000,000.00 , so at what point , does the lying stop ? And YOU PEOPLE are talking about Pres. Trump ?

The power and lying lies with in our city limits ! Look at brit hills, the builders, aldermen, arch, want to have the city of oswego, ny pay for their blunders ( at taxpayers cost ) .

And WHO is Paying the CITY OF OSWEGO, NY PUBLIC LIBRARY , salaries, snow removal, CONSTRUCTION INSPECTION, and was not the library underwent Major Construction a few years ago ?

And are the people that work INSIDE the Library, are construction savvy ? After all , the husbands are grass cutting jocks , so why should they voice there mouth , when they are experts at toilet paper changing and spreading Bull SHI !!.

And What does the Board of Education DO ? No control over school board, No Say over School Taxes,

People of Oswego , NY are dumb, do not vote, collect public monies, and hire or listen to people like ,avery, kells,broadwell,miller, bell, pauldine, and others !

And Mr. Miller, how was it that you scored 100 % on your Plumbing Test, but never did ANY PLUMBING ?

Are the TAXPAYERS being taken ADVANTAGE of once again ?

Are the Pension, 401 k, guidable retired teachers , being told ( again ) how to vote ? And britt hill elites, you bought into bad construction , and yet, YOU want the TAXPAYERS of OSWEGO,NY to pay !
                                                                                                                       January 5-6/18






Today's Quote January 3-4/2018

It's easier to resist at the beginning than at the end.
Leonardo da Vinci

New York ranks in top 3 most moved-out-of states for 7th year in a row

                                                                                                                       January 3-4/18

Steve Bannon Suggests Donald Trump Met With Russians After Don Jr. Did

                                                                                                                       January 3-4/18

The Blithering Idiot in the White House is At It Again
Can this fake president be anymore of an idiot???? Tweets that he has a bigger Nuclear Button on his Desk than Kim Jong-un! He,"The Fake President" wants to pick a nuclear fight, with a kid that is more unstable than he is. He is willing to put the lives of the men and women in the service to go fight a nuclear war, just because he is so stupid, and was such a COWARD, that he had his father pay a doctor to claim he had heel spurs, to avoided being drafted and sent to Vietnam.
This is a convincing argument that was postulated by Ernestine: "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe! This sort of sums up what TRUMP voters are.
                                                                                                                       January 3-4/18

City Library
So does this taxpayer building need $ 50,000.00 every year ? And I guess people that work at the library know what construction work that is needed !

And one more question, if the city library is a city issue and not a Board of Education issue, then how come if the schools go on delay or close, the library follows “ there lead “?
                                                                                                                       January 3-4/18

Hypocritical Mayor
“Barlow approved of Cuomo’s offer of more incentives and encouragement for local governments that find ways to share services, noting Cuomo has been adamant about pursuing the issue and reducing local property taxes.”
“Through the sharing of services, we are creating a more efficient and strategic local government, which will lead to cost savings,” the mayor said.
                                                                                                                       January 3-4/18








Today's Quote January 2/2018

Hope smiles from the threshold of the year to come, whispering, 'It will be happier.'
Alfred Lord Tennyson

Trump wants Postal Service to charge 'much more' for Amazon shipments

                                                                                                                       January 2/18

There is a fight I would love to see. Amazon could buy and sell Trump with their petty cash.

As U.S. budget fight looms, Republicans flip their fiscal script.

                                                                                                                       January 2/18






Today's Quote January 1/2018

Be at war with your vices, at peace with your neighbors,

and let every new year find you a better man.
Benjamin Franklin

Bohrer A Marine??
If you read any of Bohrer own Heidi triangles writings. He insists he was a former marine.

                                                                                                                       January 1/18

I would think that sexual harassment alone warrants an immediate discharge, not what board members did or did not do. Take your personal attacks elsewhere, think about what these women had to endure, your posting makes it sound like their struggle was secondary. Shame on you.
                                                                                                                       January 1/18

Considerate small business owners, ?? NOT THIS ONE.
What kind of Oswegonion small business owner does the following:

Allows his customers to block neighbors private driveway access, ant not inform said customers where they can safely park as they come in to his shop?

Owners and staff of this new, tiny ailing East side business park so as to make hitting their multiple vehicles a real probability during the normal daily In and of of immediate neighbors to their own properties, most who are seniors, just trying to live their lives.

Not care for their trees, allowing huge branches and trees to break during the severe windy stormy weather ( SHOULD HAVE BEEN REMOVED PRIOR TO STORM SEASON AS ASKED BY INSURANCE COMPANY), causing great damage to two adjoining neighbors. Leaving said tree debris in neighbors yards, ruining their landscaping .and well maintained hedges torn up. Then, basically having a selfish "who gives a damn attitude.

The best yet? Hiring a lame plow driver (cheap)who can't drive or have snow moving skills to plow their mini parking spot, filling in the neighbors drive at the road edge . This is AFTER neighbors had carefully cleaned out their own snow, being seniors with severe handicaps. ALL THESE FACTORS ARE KNOWN TO THIS SHOP KEEPER, WHO HAS OPENLY CLAIMED TO BE A CHRISTIAN.

So to you, said SHOP KEEPER I wish to remind you
Jesus identified his true followers with the words: YOU WILL KNOW MY. PEOPLE -AS THEY WILL LOVE ONE ANOTHER AS I HAVE LOVED THEM.


" you must love your neignbor as you would love yourself. "

Any and every Oswegonian, even a 10 year old, knows you don't mess with your neighbors driveway after they just broke their back cleaning it. Its an unspoken rule of thumb, a creed among neighbors, and a true spirit of hosbitable community effort, in the shared responsibility of harsh snowy winters here, that you don't mess around with or refill in your neighbors drives, and paths.

You are not only. NOT. the definition of a Christian, you are rude, inconsiderate, selfish beyond measure, a bad parental example, a rotten neighbor, and a complete jerk to do all the above

How about when you parked your vehicle in your neighbor drive so you could
FINALLY GET OFF YOU LAZY BUTT AN LIFT A SHOVEL TO YOUR 2 CAR DRIVE? You want to leave some road space for a hoped for customer, so you use you sick neighbor!! Did you know that man, that neighbor, lay in an ICU UNIT IN SEVERE Condition? Instead of using his driveway, a true Christian would clean it for him.

You, are a poor specimen of the human race, of a neighborhood member, and of whatever "church"" you represent. You are a lousy addition to Oswego's businesses. The Apple fell FAR from the proverbial tree in your case, your DAD is turning in his grave, along with your kindly grandmother, true gems of the East side's old Italian neighborhood area of 10th, of years past.
All your neighbors and I do mean ALL have seen your true colors now.


                                                                                                                       January 1/18

The biggest thieves, liars and hypocrites you will ever encounter are the ones that call themselves Christians.

Schneider and Zelco
Schneider runs Pathfinder the same way Zelco ran the port. Therefore there was reason for him to think anything was wrong.
                                                                                                                       January 1/18

Re: Death of Common Sense
Bohrer writes in his notes that were seized. Kiki, coke dealer. Kiki was a massive, larger than Bohrer drug dealer. Often running to none other than N.Y. city and back. His real names. Maximo Kiki Sanchez. Funny how he is arrested right after Heidi becomes a Ci and inbetween the time she vanishes. Highly dangerous, a criminal record longer than Oakes and Dodds lies. Its obvious Bohrer is linked to him, notes him in his Heidi Triangle book. But yet the Sheriff's play dumb on who he is. Maybe that's why Fulton PD brought him down in 93. So is this the man everyone seemed to fear? Including Heidi? Kiki is the only coke dealer listed in any notes, papers or documents anywhere. Its logical to lean towards YES it's quit possible. Seeing as the CI who did bring him down was also terrified of this man. Anyone hear of this fella before?

                                                                                                                       January 1/18

Funny Bohrer indeed has this man's name in his paper work. Funny the man's a coke dealer that word pops Up a lot in this.

Jail term
OSWEGO — Maximo "KikT
Sanchez, 39, of 149 E. Cayuga St.,
—Qswego. was sentenced Monday in
County Court on charges of thirddegree
criminal sale of a controlled
substance and third-degree criminal
possession of a controlled
Sanchez was sentenced by Judge
John Elliou to a maximum of nine
years, minimum of three years in
Elmira State Correctional Facility.
He was also assessed a $155
surcharge. , • <
Sanchez was originally indicted
on 22 drug-related charges. According
to court documents, Sanchez
possessed and sold .87 grams of
cocaine for $80 while at his residence.
He also sold 1.07 grams of
cocaine on March 13 at his residence,
according to court
On Jan. 15 Sanchez sold 2.60
cocaine on Jan. 20, according tocourt
records. On Jan. 23 he allegedly
possessed 4.52 grams of
cocaine. _^ —
                                                                                                                       January 1/18

2017 Editorial cartoon year in review: Donald Trump


                                                                                                                       January 1/18







Today's Quote December 29-30/2017

God could not be everywhere, and therefore he made mothers.
Rudyard Kipling

Sessions Says to Courts: Go Ahead, Jail People Because They’re Poor.

                                                                                                                       December 29-30/17

Bad Decisions at the Port of Oswego
Zelko Kirincich
The real reason Port director Kirincich left is because of inappropriate behavior with the women that worked with him.

This was part of the reason for his departure, but after the reporting of the $16,000 in missing travel and entertainment expenses, was brought it to the attention of the AG and FBI by an employee at the port, the investigations started. That person had a lot to gain by bowing in Zelko to the AG/FBI, and was then rewarded.
The other person, beside Zelko, that should have been removed from the port is, Tom Schneider, chairman of the finance committee, (CEO of Pathfinder Bank), who publicly stated, after he was made aware of the missing documentation (something as finance chair he should have discovered by him self) of the missing $16,000, "this is just part of business". This must be his "business standard", ignore corrupt use of company monies. He was also one of the people that was aware of the shady back ground of Zelko, pertaining to the Tampa Port, and ignored it. He also should have be removed due to the $1,000,000 of missing soy beans, along with the person who was in charge of the shipping records of these beans.
After Zelk's embarrassing departure, Schneider made statements in the paper that made him sound like he was the savior of the port, and how they were all a team, instead of the reason the port was in trouble. He worked hard to cover up his deficiencies by making stupid statements, which is not part of his position on the board. It might be time to send a letter to the Governor about this guy and his lack of understand of how a business should operate and the documentation required to control losses and prevent corruption.
                                                                                                                       December 29-30/17

Trump Administration Moves To Weaken Offshore Safety Rules Prompted By 2010 Spill

                                                                                                                       December 29-30/17

Ivanka Trump's Vacation Picture Has A Confederate Flag In The Background

                                                                                                                       December 29-30/17

Tommy pulling the night shift?
Guess who was spotted riding around with Tommy Boy in the wee early morning hours???? His Foreman girl friday. She is getting paid a pretty salary to be his co-pilot. Just what in the hell can she doing working the over night shift? Who is she there supervising? Tommy? And...just what the hell is she a Foreman of? She get's a truck with a plow that she takes home. Why? Check out the seethroughny website. She was hired with NO experience, and knocking down 34,000 plus a year. The city could start saving money by doing a salary overhaul of some department heads....If they were to get paid by experience, we would be saving thousands!!! Now, she is getting Foreman's pay at over 50,000. Not a bad gig. But remember, Tommy is saving by cutting the overtime.....
Saw a shit load of Riccelli trucks at the DPW this a.m. Isn't that ironic that Riccelli is a HUGE contributor to the Republican party and to the Mayor and now they are hauling snow for the City of Oswego? What happen to sending out bids? What kind of kick back is Tommy and company getting out of this one. Tommy doesn't do anything that won't benefit him.
The Mayor is pounding his chest on saving money? Saving money for who? What positions did you cut? Two secretaries from purchasing are being moved to the DPW. Those positions were not cut. Does Tommy really need 5 secretaries for the DPW? Whatever Firemen you cut, Tommy has tripled with new hires at the DPW. Tommy has been on a hiring frenzy for his possie( never a job posting to be found on the city website) and at some pretty handsome salaries at that. don't even have to have experience or meet the qualifications. How is this getting by the Personnel Department? Does the DPW really need a Complaint Investigator? It's true, called there to address a problem and was told to talk to the new Complaint Investigator. I had to hang up. couldn't believe what I was being told. What a racket. And then the Mayor sends out his lovely ass wiping Christmas cards on how wonderful of a job he is doing saving the tax payers money. There are some positive changes he has done for the city, but there are two sides to every story and the backyard dealings, favors, illegal hiring practices, and over spending needs to be addressed. Sure hope we don't see a tax rate increase this year.....Is there any truth to the rumor of a Water/Sewer bill increase? Guess we will find out after the first of the year.
                                                                                                                       December 29-30/17

Re: School board Wants To Spend Taxpayers Monies
Dig back into the years he became Superintendent. You will be sick by the number of teachers and administrators that quit or were given an option to "resign"! An evil and manipulative person!

On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 8:43 PM, John Wilson <syracusewatcher@gmail.com> wrote:
How about the fact that Sean Fitzgerald from Minetto Elementary is still on paid leave after a year and a half for endangering the welfare of a child by tossing him over a counter in front of the principal's office? It went to court in Minetto by a judge who earned it from a crackerjack box. The majority of the witnesses all changed their statements while on the stand and the defendant lied as well due to a lack of cameras in the area. 50 or 60K a year (or more) being paid for by Oswego tax payers for a teacher sitting at home everyday. Another one swept under the carpet but still impacting everyone's wallet.
                                                                                                                       December 29-30/17

A business where human bodies were butchered, packaged and sold
The Body Trade

                                                                                                                       December 29-30/17







Today's Quote December 28/2017

There is only one way to achieve happiness on this terrestrial ball,

and that is to have either a clear conscience or none at all.
Ogden Nash

So this is how it is done now, take six passes per side, instead of banging the banks twice ? Trucks are not powerful enough to push hard ?

Mr Kells, you are WAY out of your League ! Stick to doing money payout for your friends!

And when do the park sidewalks get cleared, or is that Mr Bell’s job to handle THAT difficult task ?

And if SNOW JOCKS plow driveways and block the sidewalks with snow from their plowing, who do you call for that violation ?
                                                                                                                        December 28/17







Today's Quote December 27/2017

'Tis not enough to help the feeble up, but to support them after.
William Shakespeare

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Someone posted about NYS investigating the Thibodeau case.....NOT TRUE
                                                                                                                        December 27/17

Smithsonian report for evidence in Heidi's case

                                                                                                                        December 27/17

Yep, tourism is the answer over a 52 a week jobs !
                                                                                                                        December 27/17








Today's Quote December 24/2017

Christmas is a tonic for our souls. It moves us to think of others rather than of ourselves.

It directs our thoughts to giving.
B. C. Forbes

Zelko Kirincich
The real reason Port director Kirincich left is because of inappropriate behavior with the women that worked with him. Port Dog
                                                                                                                        December 24/17

ABC News: US approves 60-million ton expansion of Montana coal mine.


Here goes a good chunk of tax payer money. Trump not US we have no USA anymore. The people he puts in these positions are wacky people. 60-million ton expansion of Montana coal mine
                                                                                                                        December 24/17

Please post the report from the Smithsonian Department of Anthropology regarding the evidence for the Heidi Allen case.

Couple questions:

Did the FBI agent that testified for the defense, Christopher Allen, read this document out loud during Gary's trial? And what does "but there are no morphological details that suggest a human origin." mean?

Also, why didn't the Defense call in a cremation specialist or have any kind of expert in human body disintegration?

One simple question to the FBI agent, who gave a partial true answer, and there is the belief that Heidi (could have) was burned in an outside burn barrel/pit.

What did the inmate supposedly tell Gary...that teeth don't burn? Jurors, you believed the inmates testimony, so.....why weren't TEETH found or reported by the Smithsonian? **slapping forehead** That's right, the Thibodeau's sifted through the burnt material, removing only what was human bone but leaving the burnt bone material that was what they testified to...animal bones, specifically chicken (as testified). Just like they must have had plastic in the van when Heidi was taken to justify no DNA in Richard's van. Right Dodd....the "cleaning" of the van...that In Fact happened AFTER the April 9, 1994 complete forensic exam of the van. Dodd.........the jurors could make up theories with no evidence but they didn't have the higher thinking that because there was no evidence pointing to the DA's and Sheriff's theory being correct that, In Fact, it makes the theories INCORRECT?

HHmmmm, they must have had their man then even though nothing truthfully fits.? The timeline doesn't fit with Richards movements the morning of April 3, 1994. No DNA evidence fits with a violent struggle taking place in the van. Verifiable alibi witnesses don't fit with Richard and Gary being together on April 3, 1994-Gary's adult neighbors witnesses didn't even ID Richards van at Gary's on April 3, 1994. No teeth or any other positive human remains were on Gary's property, via negative indications from multiple cadaver dogs on Gary's property and the Smithsonian report. "everyone would agree that Heidi wouldn't leave the store unattended". Then why do some people believe the inmates when they testified that Gary and Richard took Heidi to near Gary's while she was working alone?

Come on jurors...if you had known about Dan Barney being listed as "probably suspect" or that Michael Bohrer had been interviewed by the FBI and OCSD was competent to get his criminal past in 1995, would that have tipped the scales for you to acquit because the DA did not prove anything "beyond a reasonable doubt".

Merry Christmas Gary and Richard and all your family. Praying for Justice and Peace and Repentance and Healing for All Involved.
                                                                                                                        December 24/17

“no morphological details” Basically that means there was nothing, ie. ash, particles, cells, DNA molecules, smell or spirit that was human in origin. The bit about burning the body in a stove was as reliable as the rest of

the snitches story.

Oswego Schoolboard Looked at this PLAN for EIGHT YEARS ?
School enrollment

Public Monies Spent ( taxpayers )

Draw to what ? Why would people want to come to oswego ? Social Asst. ? Board of Education does not know how to spend taxpayers monies !

Does “ building a empire “ Kells, Bell, Goewey, Britany Hills Lords, Broadwell, Pauldines and other power grabbing pinhedes are okay lying to taxpayers, and TEACHERS ARE OKAY With This Self Interest GREED !

I would Guess that People that could and would gain from TAXPAYERS LACK of INTEREST, they Will win every time .

Look at the Board of Education’s plan for this IMPROVEMENT for EIGHT YEARS ?

This was before any budget, they want to spend money !

People are not going to come to Oswego, NY , if there is not good paying jobs !

After all Mr. Goewey, Please list all the wants for people to come to Oswego, ny including social asst.,landlord apps., off street parking ( in some cases ,does not exist ).

At one time Oswego, ny was a draw to people, but WHO wants to help BROADWELL and his friend KELLS ?

Next time you go out to vote, ask yourself, “ do you like being lied too “ ?
                                                                                                                        December 24/17

Sure if you build it they will come.
If you like having your property vandalized and stolen buy students, if you need section 8 housing and services, if you are an alcoholic or drug addict, if you love to rape and sodomize women and children, buy all means come to Ozwego, for you it will be like the promised land. Maybe they should change to, If we build it they will cum.









Today's Quote December 22-23/2017

One of the most glorious messes in the world is the mess created in the living room on Christmas day.

Don't clean it up too quickly.
Andy Rooney


West Monroe Scam
You should fact check before you post nonsense like this. It was not at a big cost to tax payers, nor did it have anything to do with where Mr. Kelly lives.
Pinnacle Road in West Monroe is a town road and has been paved by the county! Now it is getting shoulders put on.
Hummm Jimmy Kelly, Deputy Superintendent of Highways lives on that road!
I guess he needs a Great road for his residence, at big cost to taxpayers!
He forgets where he came from, and he treats the men that work in highway like garbage!
November 17/17
                                                                                                                        December 22/17

Heidi Allen, maybe this year the basturd will come clean
Strangest of all is that Deputies who were closest to the Heidi Allen case knew that the officer who recruited Heidi into undercover work was a little to close to her and also frequented the store before she was taken, who also got her the job there and lost her informant card there when he talked to owner about her employment, who also lived within two miles of the store, who also got his sandwich there every morning, only after the boyfriend would leave, who was also seen that morning in his white unmarked police car with Heidi in the front seat not sitting still by a gentleman now deceased named Titus who reportedly forwarded this information to the then OCSD how perfect when Gary's brother pulled in that morning, just what he needed a van to look for. These same men are still among us and carry this tragic event that they are a part of now, knowing the truth with the blue wall attitude that, oh well son of bitch sold coke, his ass should be in jail, maybe yes but for selling coke not kidnapping Heidi.
                                                                                                                        December 22/17

Schoolboard Wants To Spend Taxpayers Monies
School Enrollment Down

Taxbase ( people that work and pay taxes )

Taxbase ( teachers that are retired and want to keep that taxpayer DRAW )

Taxbase ( amble. draw , bring in firefighters on overtime, after all, taxpayers pay for it , so who cares ? ).

Taxbase, thank you Mr. Kells for your GREED !

Taxbase, thank you Mr . Gowey ( Mr . Greed ) for being SO STRAIGHT FOWARD ON new fields, making leighton school the HALLMART OF THE NEW HOME OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION, AFTERALL, WE WOULD NOT WANT THE EMPLOYEES OF THE BOARD TO NOT HAVE THE PROPER PARKING ( cannot be father away than 50’-0’ ) . Paint color has to be right ( with what , I do not know ).


And do the aldermen ( women ) really drive around to do a INSPECTION in there WARDS ? And does the DPW comm. ,listen ?

And when will the DPW start clearning the side walks at the parks ?
                                                                                                                        December 22/17

Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote

                                                                                                                        December 22/17

This country is in hock up to our eyeballs to China. If Trump thinks the threat of stopping foreign aid is going to make other countries fall in line behind us he is dumber than he looks. They will just skip the middleman and go directly to China for a handout.


Trump is occasionally good at picking smart people to work for him but by himself he is just another stupid ignorant republican F**K.








Today's Quote December 21/2017

Happy, happy Christmas,

that can win us back to the delusions of our childhood days,

recall to the old man the pleasures of his youth,

and transport the traveler back to his own fireside and quiet home!
Charles Dickens

Re: Add one more source of scum to the growing list in Oz
Dave White, Dave White - whatcha going to do, when they come for you?
Dave White, Dave White - whatcha going to do, when they come for you?
Dave White, Dave White...
                                                                                                                        December 21/17

Reply to 3 Amigos
I read back in 2014 that someone said that a woman ( worked as a law clerk I believe) caught two guys in lies at the store.

1. Deputy that got flagged down said that he had to go follow the van...but according to this story, NO ONE MENTIONED A VAN!!!

Is it true , I don't know, as I thought he stayed there and called it in and inspected the area etc.

Also Sue Rodems died of a heart attack....what caused it...unknown, unless you believe the BS in Fulton.
                                                                                                                        December 21/17



How Coincidental

Richard Thibodeau attorney, called the jail house snitches Agents. Said they were working for the dept. Funny one snitch McDonald arrives inside Mass Jail the same day as Richards arrest for Heidi and Garys May arrest for Mass Jail. How odd, May 25th, 1994. National missing kids day. How sick. Sick DA Office. Even sicker sheriff dept.

                                                                                                                        December 21/17



Huge Mistake by Sheriffs

Wednesday July 27, 1994. The Herald Journal released the snitches statements. This is the issue. How did the Sheriffs obtain on the 27th Baldasaro statement dated July 31, 1994. Sheriffs made a mistake. Baldasaro never signed until 4 days after the Herald aired his written statement? Huge set up Dodd? On July 23, 1994 Dodd calls the snitches a mannia from Heaven. Unless you have ESP, or can time travel in the future Dodd, on the 23nd, 27th, Baldasaro had not written any statement. Talk about a huge set up. Huge mistake by releasing Baldasaro statement 4 days early. Would leave anyone asking how the hell Dodd knew on the 22nd about Baldasaro statement when it wasn't yet signed. Heres the proof. Ill tell you how Dodd. You set Gary up. Did not on July 23 yet have Baldasaro as a witness. The more you compare dates the more Dodds story doesn't add up. Its obvious they set Gary up intentionally was in contact witn these snitches the entire time. On June 29, 94 they siezed Garys stove. How funny it is a month later. Dodds witnesses fell from the sky claiming Gart burned Heidi in a wood stove again Dodd did your ass time travel to know in a month God was gonna drop 2 witnesses on your lap that claim the same theory with the stove you have?? How funny you sieze the stove. Then a month later seem to have witnesses to back up your lies. Total set up. You sneaky sob.




                                                                                                                        December 21/17

OHS grass fields
We can’t get enough boys to form a football team; why spend money on grass fields? The money the district got to improve the schools MAY improve the buildings but does not necessarily mean better educated kids. The enrollment goes down, taxes keep going up. Can any of these people remember that the power to tax is the power to destroy? So many vacant properties and rentals owned by a very few landlords. Oswego has become a very sad shadow of what it used to be. Does it ever cross your mind to spend less?
                                                                                                                        December 21/17


Trump just admitted the GOP’s tax cuts were deceptively sold


                                                                                                                        December 21/17

9,000-plus died in battle with Islamic State group for Mosul


                                                                                                                        December 21/17







Today's Quote December 20/2017

Money? How did I lose it? I never did lose it. I just never knew where it went.

Edith Piaf

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
The AG office must follow procedures and writing a letter ( if true) to inform Lisa about what is going to happen...law is slow moving.

I hope the person that posted.."I got a phone call from one of the guys towing a trailer that VanPatten called for the hit"....is telling the truth.

They will probably have a hotline you can call and not give your name. If you KNOW something and it's true please let them know. It's too late for them to do anything violent as it will open up more avenues.

Please step up and do the right thing.
                                                                                                                        December 20/17

3 Amigos...
Good question. Also, does anyone know which sheriff's deputy had his/her patrol car parked for years permanently just down the hill from the D&W for years in a private driveway on 104? I always thought this was very strange.
                                                                                                                        December 20/17

Fire ambulance nonsense
This is what does not make sense, the Oswego Fire Department now has the same amount of guys as Fulton fire department, ten person shift seven person minimum manning. Fulton uses the NON tax payer subsidized Menter ambulance service thus leaving the fire department the needed people to fullfill the duties of the fire department and assist Menter ambulance on rescue calls or multiple calls as they most often occur. It is hard to believe how the Oswego fire chief Randall Griffin thinks the City of Oswego is somehow safer by using fireman to run a ambulance that could possibly be out of the city more than it is in the city, thus bringing the fire department to its minimum manning a majority of the time. When your ambulance is in service it takes your fireman essentially out of commission from truely performing the duties of the fire department, there mission is now caring for a patient from beginning to end no matter if it takes all day. Fulton by far is a safer city than Oswego, and I'm sure Fulton has a lower call volume than Oswego does. If you live in a town or the city of Fulton and need emergency medical services you get a fire department response and a ambulance crew.The Oswego fire department sends just a ambulance with two crewmembers, or assists the ambulance with now a fire truck leaving only one fire truck to cover any second calls of any nature. When you are the unlucky person that is the third call there is no one to come to your rescue other than a volunteer fire department from one of the surrounding towns. I feel sorry for the children and the elders of Oswego. Mayor William Barlow made the hard choice to bring the staffing levels to a realistic number such as 40. The city of Cortland is simmilar to Oswego and has a even smaller fire department with no ambulance. I'm sure the Mayor reduced the Oswego fire department due to hard and factual numbers and not on just a whim. It would be disappointing to see that your fire chief Randall Griffin would undo the work of the mayor. I'm sure the mayor would not have ended 20 young firemen's career without merritt. It would be ashame for Mr Griffin to try and further his career at the expense of the mayor's.In conclusion the City of Fulton fire department should be commended for making the residents safety a priority along with Menter ambulance. Thank you for your time and may everyone be safe this Holliday season. Jay R

                                                                                                                        December 20/17


That is assuming when the ambulance goes out no one is called in on overtime and we all know that is not the case.


Mayor Barlow Announces Changes in Operation, Cost Savings at Oswego DPW


                                                                                                                        December 20/17

Reply to 1 more source of scum.
Lmao, well said..
                                                                                                                        December 20/17

                                                                                                                        December 20/17


Snow Clearing
I could be wrong, but the DPW is not going to CLEAR the City of Oswego, NY Sidewalks of snow ?

The last I saw, School Students, People, used those side walks to walk on, and not the streets !

Glad to see that the alderpersons, Dept. Heads,Police Dept. Code Dept. , Zoning Dept. ( always checking on those asbestos, lead paint, leaning structures, non paved driveways ) enforcing those violations !

Would also like to know if Mr. Kells is on hour or salary ? Why does the head of the DPW need a truck with a plow ? Ready to donate time on plowing? Ready to clear the snow away from the public parks ( in the winter ), so that students, people can walk in safety !

But, you did not do it last year !

Mr. Kells, you are a perfect example of the “ peter principal “ ! And I will bet that, Mr. Miles Becker would have to look this up ( please Mr. Becker, keep your bike on the street and NOT on the sidewalk ! ).
                                                                                                                        December 20/17








Today's Quote December 19/2017

A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool.

William Shakespeare

3 Amigos
When Heidi came up missing....
Curtis left the store to follow pursuit....correct?
(Maybe) he was leaving the scene with Heidi in the back seat. The van might had pulled in for business, seen "something" happening, and left. Curtis now leaves with Heidi.
Anyone ever check out the cops cars for DNA.
Didn't Curtis get a new car shortly after that?
More questions!
                                                                                                                        December 19/17

Don't expect Jones to always side with Senate Democrats


                                                                                                                        December 19/17

Add one more source of scum to the growing list in Oz
With all the recent posts that point to the dark underbelly and goings on of all the authorities in place in oswego county, aĺl the agencies, the officials, the business owners, etc...it seems about all avenues have been mentioned. I've read how lawyers, doctors, politicians, the OCSD, the OPD, the Oswego city school district employees, DA's, Fire Dept. Employees, Alderman, City officials, judges, and I'm sure I'm forgetting something, ... have ALL been in bed with one another, are under shadow of suspicion, have hidden one kind of criminal behavior or another, overlooked slimy behavior, gotten away with....?well, up to and including murder as some have claimed.
Anyway, I've been waiting to see if anyone has an issue with Oz's very own AAA tow truck vendor. Yes, S____Y Towing . These guys have run rampant doing as they please, for YEARS with being the company that AAA uses when a motorist needs assistance. Feeling secure behind that safety net, they are predatory animals with college girl breakdowns, single woman drivers, women at the the bars at 2am...and use their 'coming to the rescue' persona to their full advantage. Always on the trail of a hookup, or any Avenue where they may gain something There is no fear for the drivers being on mobile phones while driving, speeding, cutting every corner, as the PD also calls them for MVA'S. They know they won't get stopped. They got their 'in'.
Oh, the stories that the driver s share between themselves about the woman motorists in Oswego! Their antics know no bounds. Nor does a certain co owner have a conscience with his lewd behavior, and filthy actions... well he had some karma years back, but he is still the dirtiest dog in town.
Watch who you trust with your vehicle when alone and broke down and NEVER turn your back.
                                                                                                                        December 19/17

Christmas Card
Anyone know where or what address I can send a card to Gary.
                                                                                                                        December 19/17

Fox News will sue me for speaking out today

                                                                                                                        December 19/17

A Republican Running To Replace Paul Ryan Comes With White Nationalist Street Cred

                                                                                                                        December 19/17


Kells Contracting Snow Removal

DPW removes the snow and Kells puts the money in his pocket.








Today's Quote December 18/2017

I will honor Christmas in my heart, and try to keep it all the year. Charles Dickens
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I will honor Christmas in my heart, and try to keep it all the year.

Charles Dickens



State Attorney General's Office

OSWEGO, N.Y. -- "The state Attorney General's Office has begun investigating whether all evidence in the 1994 abduction of Heidi Allen in Oswego County was turned over to lawyers for the man convicted of kidnapping her.

The AG's Conviction Review Bureau filed papers this week in the Oswego County Clerk's office revealing the state prosecutors' involvement for the first time.

Assistant Attorney General Gail Heatherly, chief of the review bureau, wrote a letter last month to Thidobeau's lawyers and to prosecutors saying her office was involved "in the hope that the discovery provided and the investigation performed in this 20-year-old case is as complete as is humanly possible."

The documents include a request to local law enforcement agencies for any reports related to the case, and the police agencies' responses."


Whoppie Sh!t They wrote a letter asking the most corrupt county in the state to play fair.

                                                                                                                        December 18/17



Trump labor adviser’s plan for cutting federal compensation, potentially even paid holidays


                                                                                                                        December 18/17



Romantic Sleigh Ride






Today's Quote December 17/2017

There are no secrets that time does not reveal.
Jean Racine

Doj, FBI, attorney General. When have you seen them ever in upstate NY help on any case other than Doyle's? They are wondering how to save the state millions in a law suit. Pretty sick they stand on the side lines. Do NOTHING but get involved in a case State Police could have handled on their own (Doyle). Garys case, they snub their noses to it. Both attorney general and FBI are a Waiste of tax payers money. Neither dept, has done shit. It does not matter what you've seen, heard or report, they've watched this case unfold, have done NOTHING to intervene. Lisa works for DOJ. Instead the FBI up there, fiddles with pathetic cases like Doyle, to do with a teen kid, not a homocide. Heidi is null n void to them. Along with Gary. Political powers do one thing. Cover the asses of other political powers. Attorney Generals a joke. And lied to the public. They NEVER investigated. It was a lie and a farce to look good in the public eye. FBI have had 23 years to also do their job. Only one who seems to know how to do their job is Lisa.
                                                                                                                        December 15-16/17

Watch "Trump judicial nominee can’t answer basic questions"

                                                                                                                        December 15-16/17





Today's Quote December 15-16/2017

The most dangerous people you will ever meet are the ones you don’t suspect.
Elliott Hammersmith

CDC gets list of forbidden words: fetus, transgender, diversity

                                                                                                                        December 15-16/17

Gary Thibodeau.....The Death Of Common Sense
I have always wondered what Mr. Swenkowski was thinking when the verdict came back as GUILTY! He saw him...alone, watched him leave...alone and never saw a kidnapping or Gary while he was there. Now I wonder just what the hell the jury was thinking...if anything at all.

I have always wondered what Mr. Stinson is thinking about how some people may ask how did you NOT see anything? You stated you were there from approx. 7:38 to 7:55 and flagged down a cop. But you stated that you never saw anyone or any cars. I have always wondered.....WHY or HOW.

I have always wondered why Mr. Biven's testimony is all over the place. The time, description of the van, description of the kidnappers ( not at all fitting the two brothers physical apperance ), changing his mind on the van he saw in and out of court. And how could you not see that a girl struggling didn't need your help?

I always wondered why Oakes' MA story was proven false (in court) but nothing was ever done about it.

I always wondered hoe Dodd could have even taken them to court without ANY evidence or witness that puts them there.

I always wondered about the cash register time, money and testimony.

I always wondered why after Jen Westcott failed a poly about a taped phone call, then went back in and said she was told what happened to Heidi and mentioned a WHITE van at the house she said she never lived at and the OCSD did nothing. Also telling the cops.."after 20 years I still have to tell you there were 2 vans?

I always wondered how, why and when the OCSD decided to frame Gary T. Was it years later after they knew he was innocent and someone ( maybe a politician ) said to him we don't need a law suit ( just my opinion).

I always wondered why these were not means for more investigation: Jen Westcott stories, Deputy lying on the stand, evidence withheld,, Oakes telling Lisa P. that he didn't have very much confidence in INTEGRITY of the OCSD investigation and all the other things that makes people think...COVER UP!

I am still wondering if the FBI is coming to town, God knows they all gave enough lopsided info and failed to continue a still open case.

I wonder what the FBI, DOJ and the NYS Atty General's council is...well WONDERING!
                                                                                                                        December 15-16/17


                                                                                                                        December 15-16/17







Today's Quote December 14/2017

Talking and eloquence are not the same: to speak and to speak well are two things.

A fool may talk, but a wise man speaks.
Heinrich Heine

Rose-Colored Rhetoric Sure To Highlight REDC Awards

                                                                                                                        December 14/17

Number 1 in Upstate NY


                                                                                                                        December 14/17

Port of Oswego
Schneider should just shut his mouth and slip back into the shadows. All his platitudes regarding Zelko Kirincich is a bunch of bull shit. Schneider was one of the people who voted to bring Kirincich to the port and did not do, "due diligence", regarding his back ground. He never investigated why Zelko left the Tampa Port under an "order to not come back to the Port of Tampa, unless he was escorted on the premises". He also took no action to have him removed as Port Director.
Schneider is chairman of the Finance Committee and felt that undocumented travel expenses to the tune of $16,000, without receipts as quoted in the same paper he is mouthing off about now, was, "just part of doing business" and was "OK with him". All those travel and entertainment expenses had to go through that committee and Schneider did not take exception to those missing receipts. Best guess is that he was not even aware of the missing documentation. What is his full time job? Scary.
Now Schneider, and the board, are going to put the person who was in charge of logistics/security, and had direct responsibility for the lost $1,000,000 worth of soy beans, in, as acting Port Director. Seems this rudderless boat is heading for the rocks again, and all are ignorant of how all this came about. Might be time to look within.....
                                                                                                                        December 14/17

Glad to see that Alabama voters came to their senses and voted for Doug Jones to be their Senator. I am glad that they did not send that pervert, child molester, Roy Moore to represent them and that the morals of a majority of the voters (51%) came ahead of party politics. But then again, 49% of the voters did not care that they would send a pervert to congress as long as it was a Republican; sort of reminds of the people up in Richland who voted for Doyle.
GOP must stand for "Grabber Of Pu$$ies" or "Got Our Perverts".
                                                                                                                        December 14/17

City Ambulance
Well, the end of the year is near. Is the mayor, or fire chief who from what I hear refers to the mayor as his little b!tch to the men, and does what he is told, going to let the, profesional FREE tax paying Menter ambulance company do there job and use the fireman to do their job instead of having lunch in Syracuse on our dime. If someone wanted to plow roads for the city at no cost to the tax payer you would probably not pass that deal up same with the ambulance. DONT LET THE WOOL BE PULLED OVER YOUR EYES!
                                                                                                                        December 14/17







Today's Quote December 13/2017

A man doesn't know what happiness is until he's married. By then, it's too late.
Frank Sinatra

Port Authority
With all the news about Zelko leaving and all the money missing and can't find out what happened to all the soybeans. Makes me wonder about the security at the port. Bill Scriber brags to everyone that he's in charge of security and he was a Special Forces / Green Beret or some other BS , anyone he could get to listen to his BS stories..So why hasn't he been investigated if he claims he was in charge of security. He should know what's going on. ..This is our tax payers money. The board needs a hauling over for not doing their job ..From top to bottom. Smelling stuff going on at the Port
                                                                                                                        December 13/17

Shane Broadwell and Dan LeClair
Word on the street is that if Legislator Dan LeClair votes for Shane Broadwell to be legislature chairman, LeClair will get the job of Director of Veterans Services.

The FBI and the Attorney General’s Office have been contacted.

Let’s see how this plays out.
                                                                                                                        December 13/17

Ding Dong. You’re wrong….Oaks
Steen was “likely falsely boasting”. Based on what FACTS? Did he pass a lie detector? What about 3 cadaver dog indications near an area similarly described by his “boasting”? What about Bohrer? Was he given a test, too? And it didn’t concern you that he knew and had so much information from around the time of the disappearance? He certainly didn’t get it from social media and I highly doubt the documents he DID have were available to the public even BEFORE Gary’s trial.
Here, Oaks, is a high five to start you on your way to Investigation 101.
                                                                                                                        December 13/17

President Trump is said to have Interior Department open door for East Coast oil drilling


                                                                                                                        December 13/17






Today's Quote December 11-12/2017

It is not living that matters, but living rightly.

Re: Port Authority
Sure the Russian thief retired to spend more time with his wife who is probably holding all the money he got for the missing soybeans. That board has proven they have no clue what they are doing. When is the governor going to stop coming up here for the photo ops and clean out that board. It is time to stop hiring political losers and get someone who knows what they are doing.

                                                                                                                        December 12/17

What about Sue Rodems?
She was Fulton City Attorney and married to a local doper-dealer and she turns up dead all of a sudden.
                                                                                                                        December 12/17

Ryan Zinke push for controversial road

                                                                                                                        December 12/17

Calling The Kettle Black
Mikle Shanley made charges against another lawyer for coming to court drunk.
Since when did he stop drinking and chasing young boys. He has to be one of the five worst lawyers in the city drunk or sober.
                                                                                                                        December 12/17

Ozwego County
The cops – lawyers – doctors – politicians in Ozwego County have abused – raped - and killed more women in this county then anybody would ever imagine. Gary was lucky he only got jail.
                                                                                                                        December 12/17








Today's Quote December 9-10/2017

There is nothing new in the world except the history you do not know.

Harry S Truman


Who is Sue Boullard?

To the poster who posted this. Who are you talking about? There is/was no such woman who exists. An Amber Neivel was found in the same river earlier this year, according to news reports. 

                                                                                                                        December 9-10/17


I think they spelled the name wrong. She was the wife of former Fulton mayor Don Bullard.




Truck Ad Featuring Ivanka Trump Bashing Roy Moore Trolls Dad's Rally


                                                                                                                        December 9-10/17



So much Mis-information Port of Oswego

There is so much mis-information stated from Zelko Kirincich, Port Director, in the latest article, regarding the mess at the port. Mr. Kirincich stated that since he was hired as the Port Director the port's output has doubled. That is probably true, but really had nothing to do with him bringing in any new business that doubled the port's output. It had to do with the $200 million expansion of Novelis Inc and increasing their production of aluminum by 240,000 tons for Ford body Trucks. Most of that 240,000 tons will be coming through the port, a facility, that by happenstance, is located a few miles from Novelis. That is twice the amount that the port handled a couple of years ago.

The facts are pretty simple; Mr. Kirincich was hired by an unknowing board after a national search, and, was hired with a major problem with his previous employer, Tampa Port, where he was not allowed on the Tampa site after his dismissal. He came here with a lot of BS and took advantage of a lot of holes in the port's procedures, policies, and a weak board. So this is what should have been reported:

1 The board never followed up with Tampa Port to find out why he was dismissed and wasn't allowed back on the premises without an escort. They even raised his pay to over $230,000 plus benefits, a car, and an expense account that did not require any justification or receipts for his travel and entertainment. Seems the chairman of the finance committee stated he had no problem with the director not having receipts. The port needs a new chair of that committee! 

2 Zelko never moved to Oswego, kept his residency in Fl, and was flying back and forth to Florida almost weekly on the Port's dime.

3 He knew the chainman of the finance committee was over his head, allowing Mr. Kirincich to travel without supporting receipts and a loss of $16,000  to the port.

4 There are over $1,000,000 of Soy bean inventory missing in the Agribusiness account that is still missing. The finance committee missed this little issue as well.

5 There was a reason the FBI took his computer and cell phones.

6 Do you really he resigned for family and personnel reasons? Really!!!


Needless to say that the port management is a mess. The board has not been watching the business and was willing to believe any lie Zelko was selling. Other management employees were not keeping an eye on the port's business as well or were to cowardly to do anything about the mess that was in front of their eyes. Or maybe they did on the QT? 

I hope they do a better job of selecting a new port director, as the last three have been major jokes.

                                                                                                                        December 9-10/17



"Barack Obama Just CRUSHED Trump On His Bad Leadership Dividing America


                                                                                                                       December 9-10/17






Today's Quote December 8/2017

A winner is someone who recognizes his God-given talents,

works his tail off to develop them into skills, and uses these skills to accomplish his goals.
Larry Bird

DA Fitzpatrick, Vera House exec call Katko-backed gun bill dangerous

                                                                                                                       December 8/17

3 Amigos
Years back. A man named Sirgibbs sat in the court room. Watching Garys case unfold. He posted some pretty intelligent posts. He tells you. There are 3 connections that OCSD didnt want you to link together. That 3 would go to the dirty cop cokers house. That 2 knew, 2 really KNEW, he writes.
Funny how Vanpatten, Curtis, Petrowski hang at Curtis house over the years. Dirty cop cokers house must be Curtis, the 2 who Knew, really KNEW was petrowski and Vanpatten. Can it be proven. Yes. It can be proven by eye witnesses.
Matter of fact. Curtis was petrowski mentor lol per say.
So you have the lead investigator stealing texts messages between 2 persons of interest. Makes complete sense now. Why this entire case has gone in the direction it has.
The officer whom dropped the cards, buddies to lead investigator now, also friends to same cop whom exposed Heidi and Curtis just happened to be driving by minutes after Heidi disappeared.
You 3 corrupt amigos belong in prison.
                                                                                                                       December 8/17

GOP will target welfare, Medicare, Medicaid spending in 2018


                                                                                                                       December 8/17

ocsd and da corruption
sue boullard knew everything that was going on with the drug dealing, extorsion, embezeling and sexual harassment in the district attorneys office and sheriff’s department.She wasn’t afraid to call them on it and she ended up in the river at the same spot where they dumped Carol wood. Heidi was on the inside working with that slime and she just vanishes. Several women got too close to that bunch and ended up dead unexpectedly. A lot of the dirty money was being laundered through columbia savings and loan and fulton savings and probably still is.
                                                                                                                       December 8/17


The Night Before xmas in OZ
Twas The Night Before Christmas in Oz

T'was the Night of Corruption in the land of OZ.
When all through the town. Not even a sheriff was stiring not even Joakes the clown.
The deputies all snug in their beds.
While visions of corruption danced in their heads.
Jaokes in his Kerchief
And Sheriff Todd in his cap.
Had just settled their brains from Lisa's first wrath.
When out by the jail they heard a clatter.
Joakes sprung to his feet to see what was the matter.
Away to the window Sheriff Todd took his fat ass.
They tore open the shutters and peeked out the sash.
The moon glowing on their faces showed disgust for what was below.
Lisa again, her feds all ready to go.
Sheriff Todd he feared her, he cowered and hid.
You lil bastards she screamed as she walked across the snow.
More rapid than Eagles Lisa shouted their names.
Sheriff Todd, DA Joakes, you cowards are corrupt to the core.
Im coming to give you some more.
To the top of the courts to the top of the law. Ill take on you one, and all.
Lisa flipped them the bird, with an evil eye she glared
Up thru the courts her filings flew.
With a bunch of their lies and corruption to boot.
In a twinkle a pounding came to their door.
It was the FBI coming for more.
They knocked and they screamed
Sheriff Todd ran and he hid. For he could lie no more.
The fat lil bastard barricaded the door.
He took Joakes and his fat ass, climbing up the chimney with care.
In hopes they wouldn't find them in there.
Lisa climbed to the roof in the chimney She she peered.
Their clothing all covered in soot and ash.
A bundle of evidence Joakes hid for his stash.
A stump of their lies they spilled from their teeth.
Lisa laughed as she saw them all filled with fear.
A wink of an eye, a tad twist to her head
She would give them both something to dread
For she is a FED.
You fat bastard, you lil clown. Aint no one going to help you down.
Your corruption, your lies, you sorry ass souls. Ill see you in court.
Sheriff Todd completely froze. Lisa gave him a nod.
Then punched him in the nose.
She stood to her feet. Giving her team a whistle.
To Supreme we go. No more time for their little side shows.
As she went out of sight. And finally disappeared.
I heard Joakes exclaim- in a coward like voice....
"Objection to all and to all a corrupt night."
                                                                                                                       December 8/17





Today's Quote December 7/2017

Soon the child learns that there are strangers, and ceases to be a child.
Max Muller

Special Deputies
Beside the drug trade ands rasping women motorists it is a wonder they found any time to protect and serve.You know that is why the Sheriff and the DA are so dead set against a new trial for Gary. They don’t want the truth and the OCSDs involvement in Heidis disappearance to come out in the light of day. Are you out of your ever lovin? No but you sure as hell are Todd.
                                                                                                                       December 7/17

The Oswego/Co.rt 1 Halloween wagon
Hey Kells,
Did anyone else notice that the little Halloween hayride wagon now sits at the east end of the Dpw fenced in area. That seems to me like he should be reprimanded for that stunt.
The problem is that when little billy has his dough wagon out there for the festivities this makes him an accomplice. I cannot believe this blatant b.s. Is still allowed after all the bullshit this city has gone through.
I drive by Kells house everyday. If I see him plowing his driveway I will stop and introduce myself to him. Have some guts folks. This is our money these people are spending. Hold these people accountable and make them pay with losing their jobs.
Let's get moving on taking control of a city that has never had accountability. We do have outside resources that can help. Call the A.G's office , call the congress person, call the Nys comptroller and see who to talk to due to misuse of municipal money.

Signed, I'm watching

                                                                                                                       December 7/17

Re: sleezy lawyers
The same ones always seemed to be there, the Hawthornes, Eby, Cieszeski and Todd. Not one real lawyer in the bunch.
                                                                                                                       December 7/17



city hall fence

Where is the fence that used to be in front of City Hall? If it was sent for repair does the DPW still have it. If an outside firm was hired to make the repairs where is the Council resolution to authorize this work and at what cost? The theft of city property is a crime. Too much happens in the city because city officials know the citizens have short memories. It would be interesting if a complete audit was performed on all city departments by an outside agency and if the State Police did an investigation of the crimes that take place that slip through the cracks.

                                                                                                                       December 7/17






Today's Quote December 6/2017

The government should not be guided by Temporary Excitement, but by Sober Second Thought.

Martin Van Buren

Sexual Blackmail In Oswego County
In the 90s RT 57 South of Fulton was prime hunting for the Fulton Cops and the County Sheriffs.
Women getting out of work at Miller and Owens were prime targets of these sexual predators. Some of them recorded the harassment by officers and deputies and confronted District Attorney James Grose. Grose smashed the recorder in front of them and threatened them should they ever bring up that subject again.
It didn’t end there. Women who didn’t put out were given tickets for loud mufflers, tail lights out or doing 37 MPH in a 35 MPH zone. Then there was a host of sleezy lawyers waiting to represent them for you guessed it sex.
                                                                                                                       December 6/17

Reply Moe Todd
Laugh away. Every one I know is laughing at them. The public knows the truth, no matter how much they lie. Facts are facts. No matter the lies. It can never change that fact.
                                                                                                                       December 6/17

DPW Hiring?
Must be Mr. Kells if feeling generous this holiday season. Generous with the tax payers money and only if you are a buddy... Just how many Foreman are needed for a work force under 75? Not to mention that these newly hired foreman/woman are not coming from experienced workers from the DPW and who may have already taken the required civil service exam, but from Kells's private pool of rats. Must be he needs many sets of eyes on the workers. What did this city ever do before he became DPW boss? Must be all those pretty trees they planted this year were money trees. These added foreman salaries are not cheap. Tax payers better hold on....and you all thought the Fire Department was ripping the city off......And just what is the mayor doing about it? NOTHING!!! This new council that is coming in better grow some balls and start shutting this spending down, investigate the hiring process of all his new hires, and putting Kells in his place......back out in Scriba where he belongs!!!

Snow is coming....Let's see how many video's we can get on here of Kells plowing his driveway with that BRAND NEW CITY OWNED truck and plow......
                                                                                                                       December 6/17

I know for a fact. One deputy followed the bartender from Williamstown home one night after she closed up the bar. Yes the choice was sex or dwi. She is very vocal about this incident. Its called sexual harrassement, entrapment, the list goes on. It started with oral sex on the road. He then followed her back to her place. Mean while he was on duty and we tax payers are paying for this nasty shit. Ill get his name but to the officer whom did this. Her intials are TM, and Im certain you are well aware of who you are...Oakes will deny...deny...deny..everyones a liar but OCSD, DA office. Instead of him seeing hes surrounded by pigs, literally. He thinks hes surrounded by heros. He couldn't be any dumber.
                                                                                                                       December 6/17

Director resigns amid State IG investigation of Oswego port

                                                                                                                       December 6/17

Special Deputies
One of the biggest jokes in Oz was the daughter Jack Obey fathered in lieu of a speeding ticket. Its not just the nineties. that sh!t goes on every day in this county by every law enforcement agency
                                                                                                                       December 6/17





Today's Quote December 5/2017

The way to change the world is through individual responsibility

and taking local action in your own community.

Jeff Bridges

Re: Gosek Recording
You people on here are a joke. You think those dumb Polacks that elected thos to Goseks care about there sex crimes. If the old man ran for mayor again he would get elected. Oswego is just as f**ked up as they are. The kid is a teacher. What a perfect person to be involved with children.
                                                                                                                       December 5/17

Re: Moe Todds Special Deputies
Hope the women who were taken advantage of by these disgusting men had the where-with-all to get STD tested after their encounter. Wonder if their wife/girlfriend had any idea just how sickening their loved one was or is De Nile the River in Egypt?
CDC, was there an epidemic of oral Herpes in Oswego during the time period of these allegations?
“Smear campaign by the Defense”. LOL, Mr. Oakes. Appears your buddies smeared……before any of the outside world even knew!! ** Dang, I just thought they were incompetent at their jobs. Must reconsider in light of the new accusation.** But yet these are some of the a&$holes that are trusted by some in the community?!?! I wonder though, how adept are some people at being two-faced?
I apologize. I know I shouldn’t laugh at the…..expense of others.
                                                                                                                       December 5/17

Senator Grassley on tax bill
GOP Senator Implies Those Who Aren't Millionaires Waste Money On 'Booze, Women' | HuffPost https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a247d89e4b03c44072e5a04?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

                                                                                                                       December 5/17

Special Deputies And Special Judges.
My neighbor had her kids taken by DSS. Two weeks later she got them back. Her words “ all I had to do was blow the family court judge”.
                                                                                                                       December 5/17

Tax Reform Bill 2017
Household Income Oswego County vs. Nation $47,646 $53,482
Family Median Income Oswego County vs. Nation $59,470 $65,443

The new Tax Reform bill that is being pushed by the Republicans, and voted on by Katko and Tenney will end up costing 80% the tax payers in Oswego County in increased taxes and a major reduction in benefits. Here is why:
1. The reduction in the corporate tax rate from 35% to 20% is a joke. The corporate realized tax rate after loop holes 18.6% and none of the loop holes have been eliminate, so their new tax rate will be 0% to 1.5%. The hundreds of billions of dollars will never be invested in new industry and increased jobs as advertised, but will go into the pockets of CEO's, wall street, and for by-backs and dividends. None of the over seas industry is going to come back to the United States, and these businesses will continue to produce products with $3/hour, no benefits labor over seas as compared to coming back to pay $30/hour plus benefits, and regulations. The money from these taxes will never be put into wages!
2. The elimination of the estate tax will only go to those people with hundreds of millions of dollars in real estate, so 99.98% of Oswego County taxpayers will not benefit from this.
3. If you make less $75,000/year your taxes will go up. If you make over $75,000 you will get a minor tax break, but only for 10 years, where the corporate rate is permanent. If you are a single mother you are rally going to be hit with much higher taxes!
4. The deficit will go up by another 1.5 Trillion dollars as the US economy will not grow at a rate of 3-4 % and will still struggle to reach 1.4%.
5. Because the deficit has been calculated by all the major economist, there will have to be reductions in government spending and benefits. Medicare will be reduced by 500 billion dollars and Medicaid will see the same reduction. So retired people on a fixed income and those on assistance will be devastated in the health care arena. Those that are employed and making a good wage will be paying more for their heal insurance to cove the cost of those people without benefits going to the emergency rooms, where by law they must be treated. Well, there goes your tax reduction.
6. The people who benefit from this will be the billionaires that made contribution to political campaigns and this is their pay back to those Republicans. Off shore money will not come back to the US and there will be no investment in new business as the country is at full employment with an unemployment rate of 4%.
7. Bottom line; the average person who works in Oswego County (see above chart) will be getting screwed by the end of 2018. People who have worked their entire lives will see their meager retirements eaten up by the above give-a-way to the very rich, while taxpayers try to survive in this poverty ridden county.
8. You can thank Trump, Katko, Tenney, McConnell, and the rest of the republican congress and senate. Times are about to get tougher for those of you that voted for any of these people, and unfortunately for those who did not will have to suffer along. When it finally hits you, it will be too late. I hope I am wrong and we will all prosper by this bill, but every economic indicator points to a disaster in a few years for Oswego County.
                                                                                                                       December 5/17

The judges and attorneys have been preying on the women and young boys of this county for half a century. It is time for them to speak out.
                                                                                                                       December 5/17







Today's Quote December 4/2017

She plucked from my lapel the invisible strand of lint (the universal act of woman to proclaim ownership.
O. Henry

Moe Todds Special Deputies
In the early Nineties Under Sheriff Moe Todd gave dash mount strobe lights to ADA Don Dodd and ADA Don Todd so they could make citizens arrests. How it worked was they would follow women home from local bars and pull them over for suspicion of drunk driving. Some got a stiff warning others had to service the stiff end of the law.

                                                                                                                       December 4/17
Just when you think you have heard it all.

State Police Arrest Reports 07/06/2008

Louis E. Sorendo, 51, of 21 Ellen St., Oswego
On 07/06/08, Louis E. Sorendo, age 51, of 21 Ellen St., Oswego, NY, was arrested by the New York State Police ââ‚Âââ‚Å“ Syracuse for Unlawful Possession of Marijuana after being stopped for a seat belt violation at the Verona interchange (exit # 33) of the Thruway.
Mr. Sorendo was released to appear in the Town of Verona court.
                                                                                                                       December 4/17

BarLOW and his administration.
People do not need Carol to start a petition, or do your public duties to protest and demand this disgusting corruption be addressed. Get off your asses and DO SOMETHING. Who's writing to the Feds? Who's contacting the media?? Who's got a bullhorn out side of city hall, or playing that Sorendo/Gosek tape through the city streets?? Stop BLAMING everyone else and start being a part of the solution. Enough of the victim blaming and passing the buck!! This long running corruption and good ole boys networks matters to ALL. Get it together, Oswego. No more excuses, no more waiting till it happens to YOU.
Here's the current "accomplishment" your loser mayor is boasting, and the man who's property they damaged and violated.



                                                                                                                       December 4/17

Mayor Billy Barlow
November 28 at 10:22am ·
Today we kicked off a new partnership with CiTi by allowing their students to demolish old blighted homes in the City of Oswego starting with 154 East Seneca Street.
This partnership allows the City to remove dilapidated homes from our neighborhoods at no cost while giving these students the opportunity to get some hands on training in the field. Thanks to all who helped make this partnership a reality!
                                                                                                                       December 4/17

Tracy Paeno-Rigby Craig Soper
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Craig Soper Yeah sure hope they repair the yard next door where they have their equipment on without asking the home owner if they could!
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Carol Ireland Find that hard to believe that they never asked, doesn't make sense.
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Craig Soper They didn't ,I came home to find a backhoe clear across my yard with bucket up against my plow on side of my house.
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                                                                                                                       December 4/17

Parking Ban
Is the parking ban in effect? I see a lot of cars in the street, but didn't hear anything myself. If you do a Google search, you won't find anything. You will find the Oswego City website, and it has nothing about this years parking ban??? Nothing! Way to go Oswego!
                                                                                                                       December 4/17








Today's Quote December 3/2017

It is nice to have valid competition; it pushes you to do better.
Gianni Versace

Watch "Michael Flynn charged with making false statements to the FBI"

                                                                                                                       December 3/17



Carol Thompson.. the butt joke of John Gosek Jr
If Carol Thompson is sincere about having John Gosek Jr. resign as Councilor of the 5th Ward, then she should start a petition drive and get the signatures of the residents of the 5th Ward demanding him to resign his seat. What Gosek and Sorento did constitutes Gosek's removal from office, and the people of the 5th ward should be the ones to take him out! He should also be brought to the Ethics Committee and have them recommend his removal. I forgot, they have no teeth and are controlled by the mayor and the city attorney; so no chance they will do anything.
It is true that the "Apple did not fall far from the tree". As far as him being a good councilor, he hasn't done anything for the 5th, and he doesn't return phone calls. He is just another yes vote for anything the Barlow mafia wants.
                                                                                                                       December 3/17

So, In a matter of Monies...
… does the mayor , Comm. of the DPW, Redrick, Head of Water Dept., Council ( lawyer ) for the city and others, get Full Health Insurance, Full Retirement, at the cost TO THE TAXPAYERS ?
                                                                                                                       December 3/17


RE: Shower Soom Banter

Yes! Definitely do the son.

Pound him in the pooper.

Super Duper!

                                                                                                                       December 3/17







Today's Quote December 2/2017

Old age and treachery will always beat youth and exuberance.
David Mamet

Shower Room Banter

Federal inmate #1: Hey Leroy, remember that child molester Gosek that came through here back in 2006? He was some of the best lovin I had on the inside but he was always crying so I had to put a bag over his head.

Federal inmate 2: Yeah Bubba, he was ok but I would rather do his son. I’d like to throw a flag over his little a$$ and do him for god and country.

Hinder Grinder
                                                                                                                    December 2/17

Black and White Ford Vic..
who's driving ? Car I.D. number 702
                                                                                                                    December 2/17

Follow the money
Now that the mayoral election is over, it is time to follow the money. Who benefited from the contributions to the Barlow Campaign.
                                                                                                                    December 2/17

Caraccioli & Associates, specifically, Kevin Caraccioli:
Kevin gave Barlow a $500 contribution, and who knows how much under the table, but it paid off handsomely. He was appointed as the Oswego City Attorney at $28,000 per year as a part time position. Within a month of the appointment, he was given full time status, salary moved to $58,000 with full health benefits and retirement. His contribution of $500, has netted him, with benefits a total of $$95,700/year, or a total for the four year term of $383,000.
Tom Reynolds, contribution of, $200, assuring him his position of assistant city attorney, part time for $28,000.
Jim Bell, contribution of $400, has now secured a job in codes for $55,000 plus benefits which gives him an annual package of $90,700 or $363,000 for the four year term..
Tom Kells, contribution of $5,000, was appointed to the position of Commissioner of Public Work at $75,000 plus benefits, a city truck and all he can steal. Annual salary of $123,750, or $495,000, pus value of truck and using it for plowing jobs ($10,000/year) and who knows how much has been stolen from the city and is hidden on his property. Best guess of total package, $550,000 for the four year term. Also got his son a city contract to mow city lawns for $10,000.
Broadwell, contribution of $1500, to receive over $2,000,000 for water park from the Downtown Revitalization State Grant rough administered through the mayor's office.
Tony Pauldine contribution of $5,000 to receive over $1,500,000 for water park from the Downtown Revitalization State Grant rough administered through the mayor's office for the mess he made of the Coleman's building and that joke of the King Arthur building.
Shane Stephien , Stepone Creations, contribution of $750, received contract for $30,000 to create the city web site which is a real joke. Along with the contract, a $2500 fee to maintain the web site each year ($10,000 for the four year term). Total package $40,000.
Barlow Family, contribution of $3,500, as should be expected, but benefited in the installation of thousands of dollars worth of new sidewalks and driveway apron.
Carol Thompson, contribution of $100...maybe this will help her with her claim against Gosek and Sorento for sexual harassment.
There are also many city committee appointments that were made form the list of contributors by Barlow for these people.
There were several appointments to city committees by Barlow from this list as well. Other notables of $1,000 contribution or more are:, Will Barkley, Barkley Damon LLP, Thomas Schneider, Peter Kehoe, Pathfinder Bank, James Symborski, Mike Backus, P McCarthy.
There surely will be resolutions and/or appointments made to benefit these people as well.
                                                                                                                    December 2/17

Mirror Online: The intelligent tabloid. #madeuthink
                                                                                                                    December 2/17

Watch "Congresswoman masterfully exposes Trump tax scam as a giveaway to big corporations"

                                                                                                                    December 2/17

The Parking Ban
Did you receive your parking ban questioner?
The few that are in need won't be heard. The facts are that this winter parking ban is completely not needed. The ban used to have meaning, but no longer. Oswego has many poor people, many of which don't have vehicles. The few that do need parking are homeowners with kids, and some middle class workers who rent...couples or single people with two vehicles. So, when you break it down into a percentage (and, if any councilors are doing their jobs, they would know these numbers within each of their Wards), the percentage is low. Meaning, why have a ban?In the past it was for weather purposes and the number of plows were few. The weather has changed folks. And, the money being spent in this city, we have the plows. The number of early mornings it snows between 1AM and 6AM are few, very few. Last winter it snowed only 12 times during these hours. This ban is just a hindrance to those taxpayers in need. The plows...if it does snow during these times, shouldn't be whining, just do your best. Alternate parking would be fair, and reasonable for the taxpayer who needs the extra parking. Your talking about a low percentage, and a very, very low percentage of it snowing during these hours. Hell, have you seen the forecast? So, why the hassle?
                                                                                                                    December 2/17







Today's Quote November 29/2017

Just as the individual is not alone in the group, nor any one in society alone among the others,

so man is not alone in the universe.
Claude Levi-Strauss

Oswego Resident Alleges Sexual Harassment Against Common Councilor, Editor

                                                                                                                    November 29/17

Re: Oswego never ceases to amaze :-/
When I read this post the first one I thought of was Gosek Jr.
He drove his first wife to suicide got another woman pregnant then sued her for joint custody of the child. He is a rotten apple just like his father.
                                                                                                                    November 29/17

Yup he is following right in daddy’s footsteps.







Today's Quote November 28/2017

The great advantage about telling the truth is that nobody ever believes it.
Dorothy L. Sayers

Bobby documents
Wait a minute here…..No “received by OCSD” or “received by DA” stamp??
So does that mean it was not part of “the entire OCSD” case file on Heidi?
Tsk Tsk, Dodd. Another lie caught from testimony under oath! HAHAHAHA
                                                                                                                    November 28/17

Dan Barney charged with illegally hunting deer from motor vehicle


                                                                                                                    November 28/17

Oswego never ceases to amaze :-/
Found on a Facebook page called Be The End.... https://www.facebook.com/oswegocommoncouncil/posts/555784948093781
I was recently contacted by a concerned City of Oswego resident who had a recording on her phone of an Oswego City Common Councilman making crude statements about placing a “bag” then “flag over her head” during sex and to “do her for your country”. She contacted me, knowing I had suffered abuse by the same man. This recording was brought to Mayor Barlow’s attention and the City Ethics Committee and nothing was done.
                                                                                                                    November 28/17

Dan Barney
Dan Barney your a liar. You once again got charged for jacking deer. You've had prior charges for the same thing. Do you think the publics stupid with your "the buck was wounded," comment. Seeing as youve been charged in the past. Wounded due to you maybe. I am sure Dan you concider your new charge as you always do, when your arrested as an assault on you. Funny how you break the laws, its everyone else attacking you. You Dan are nothing more than a munipulator. You claim you shot the deer for mercy. Bull shit. You shot it from your vehicle, which is ILLEGAL. MORON.
                                                                                                                    November 28/17

Payroll of Mr. Kells....
… please let the taxpayers ( REMEMBER US ? ) what is your yearly income is, what your perks are, what is your city of oswego, ny credit card limit is ? Are you working 24 /7 with that New Truck, and willing to plow the bus stops at 3:00 a.m. , or just be another money draw to the taxpayers ? Health Insurance, Payroll, New Truck, Landlord Insider, what is YOUR STEALING FIGURE to the taxpayers , $ 36,000.00 per year in health insurance? Payroll at $ 65,000.00 per year, plus retirement for you, wife ,and kids , for the rest of your life ?

When does the greed stop ?
                                                                                                                    November 28/17

Warren tears into Trump for ‘Pocahontas’ crack at event honoring Native Americans


                                                                                                                    November 28/17







Today's Quote November 27/2017

If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else.

It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits.

There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.

Bruce Lee

Bobby Baldasaro
Has anyone besides Dodd seen the notes about Bobby?

HHmmm. A report from Florida probation says they recommend that his probation be revoked and "2 years community control for closer supervision". Notes show that a governors warrant was issued for him. They were going to hold him up in MA so he can testify in NY "then we can justify putting him back on probation". What? He got probation for testifying in NY.

Damn, and I thought it was testified to that neither inmate received any benefit for testifying.?!

It's all in black and white...Bobby did.


                                                                                                                    November 27/17


Grab your ankles Oswego....
If everyone thinks they don't have any X-mas $$$ leftover now once paying that f'n disastrous water/sewer bill then hang on tight...it's going up to $315/qtr. come February so you really won't have any f'n $$$ remaining to do anything with...including eating! Oh, and BTW...it wasn't a screwdriver that killed the old man on Mitchell St. many years ago....it was a f'n icepick & the local police have made it known! HMMM!!!
                                                                                                                    November 27/17

Bivens and criminal witnesses
LOL...."disinterested witnesses" we found credible? Like who?

Bivens was obviously lying about something....many different police statements, pleading the 5th during trial about the false insurance claim form.

Ms. Montgomery...

Mr. Neville Jr....

The Cowen's knowing Bivens....

The store owner, "family friend", finding the CI card but testifying to not "warning" Heidi's family.....

That Sturtz woman "we kept it a secret" that Heidi was IN FACT a CI....

Please post the documents about Baldasaro getting a reduced sentence on recommendation for his NY testimony.

Deputy Wheeler lying under oath. Dodd refusing to give "the entire" OCSD case file as per repeated arguments against turning over documents and "finding" Heidi case evidence "in the garage" in the 11th hour.

BUT....this was a good arrest, good conviction. LMAO Todd, Dodd, Oakes.....you guys can't be that ignorant!?? You guys are sick mother___ that have turned a missing young woman from your community into a trivial, cya occurrence.

Sad that Heidi's own loving sister can't comprehend what is written in black and white. I would not rest, even after all these years, if Heidi was my sister, daughter, close cousin, close friend. Pray that more people speak the truth for Justice for Heidi and Gary....Shame on All You Liars/Deceivers.

Heidi was/is important even if one has given up hope for finding the Truth!!

Have you seen Bivens' Facebook page? Some kind of Christian to violate one of God's Laws...."Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor". Praise God that those who violate HIS laws will be properly Judged and Punished. Eternity is a long time, if you're a believer.
                                                                                                                    November 27/17

Re: IP address
What are they worried about unless what is posted can be proven?

Some accusations are false...but others are true.

I am willing to bet that most of what is posted about the Heidi Allen case is a FACT that can be proven from written documentation.

NO INTEGRITY and NO MORALS. Ya'll should resign. Along with the other crooked Oswego government officials.

Keep Speaking and vote the vermin out!! Research your candidates. Talk to the candidates and other constituents. Thank you to ALL who don't give up! "WE the People" are stronger than them.
                                                                                                                    November 27/17

Threats and intimidation are how these people stay in control and out of jail. When they become too much of a liability they get thrown under the buss like Dumbsmor did to Gosek.

Water Bills 2018
They are raising the water bills from $275 to $315. Are you f<{king me. Barlow sure has BS everyone in this dump city. Giving money to all his friends and stealing money from everyone else. How does he expect the seniors on fixed incomes to pay for this ..This city government has gone right in the toilet Barlow if you read this. You and your government are idiots ..
                                                                                                                    November 27/17







Today's Quote November 26/2017

Glory, built on selfish principles, is shame and guilt.
William Cowper

This Bivens???
This Bivens? Are you talking this Bivens. Are you identifying the DA main witness as a past prime suspect in the odd death of an old man? If so whats this old mans name? Easy way to find that out. Unless of course the Sheriffs disposed of his past crimes, I wouldnt doubt in exchange for his testimony?? One could make that assumption. If so, Dodds more Devil than the real devil. Sick....this entire case the more you stop and smell the roses, you notice those gorgeous roses smell like shit. The stench is coming from OCSD and the DA Office.
How would one confirm all those things?? Anyone have any proof of the Bivens claims posted on here?
                                                                                                                    November 26/17

IP address
Kells is not the only one making threats about getting your IP address from this site. S. Walker makes the same claims. But I was never told that was impossible for him to do; think it was the other way around that I was a fool to think he couldn't. Probably something else he does on the tax payer dime for the county.....
Noneya B.
                                                                                                                    November 26/17

Walker is probably Kells computer expert.






Today's Quote November 25/2017

Feeling gratitude and not expressing it is like wrapping a present and not giving it.
William Arthur Ward

Is the Bivens referenced in the Heidi Allen story the same Bivens that drove taxi for Horan's in the 80s? If so he has quite a shady reputation to start with. He was arrested for false imprisonment of a teenage girl in the back seat of his cab, he refused to let her out until she agreed to have sex with him! He also robbed an old lady on rt 48,Mrs Cahill on 3 seperate occasions and was a suspect in the suspicious death of an old man on Mitchell St who was found dead at the bottom of his stairs with a screwdriver through his skull. The same police investigating the Heidi Allen case determined that death to be accidental. lol
                                                                                                                    November 25/17





Today's Quote November 23/2017

Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first. Charles de Gaulle
Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/charles_de_gaulle

Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism,

when hate for people other than your own comes first.
Charles de Gaulle




It's a miracle
See, Kell's does do work. He can hold a pole for a tent. That pretty much reflects his qualifications. Look at those brand new pretty pick up trucks with nice shiny new plows....Should make plowing his driveway a little easier this winter. Glad he is taking care of his buddy, the ass-sistant and got him a new truck too. His girl Friday does a super decorating job for the tree lighting. I would say it's worth the Foreman's pay and title. Got so much money to be throwing around shouldn't be going to council and begging for more.....

                                                                                                                    November 23/17


Re: Zero Ada
Do you think that Kells is referring to the idiot(s) responsible for the new City of Oswego website? LOL Shane Stepien and what's his name! OMG he/she/it couldn't even hack the password on an old Leap Pad! It would take a certified IT expert willing to go to jail to do what Kells is lying about and the City of Oswego does not have one (IT expert that is) They do however have quite a few who are apparently willing to be incarcerated.
                                                                                                                    November 23/17

16 W 5th St, Oswego, NY 13126
Robert McGrath
3 beds 3 baths 2,272 sqft
For Sale
Zestimate®: $179,412
Total City Assessment: 2017 - $225,000
                                                                                                                    November 23/17

Reply to Bivens
I've read on Bivens also before but its the first time I've ever really sat down and compared his stories and his multitude of changed statements, his confusing descriptions and changes he added to the van, he even changed the vans location at the store, from between the pumps to the outside of the pumps. Bivens, is certified, in my opinion, up to no good. I never knew he gave the make and model of the vehicle. Not every ones from the Oswego area. So obtaining transcripts arent easy for outsiders. Ty for sharing that. To me Bivens pleading the 5th, tells me a lot. Seems a pretty good ammount of Oakes side uses the 5th like it means nothing. To me the 5th typically, tells anyone, besides numb nuts Oakes. They've got something to hide. You are only to use that line if it will incriminate yourself. By using the 5th, to me, they did just that. Bivens is a con, simple as that.
                                                                                                                    November 23/17








Today's Quote November 22/2017

It is never too late to be what you might have been.
George Eliot

Zero Ada
But historically its politically motivated
And not based on reality
I refer to the hands off of violent crimes at toucans
Ie under Constanza 1000 plus fights
Rapes that went on premise
OD’s to hospital and zero
And yada yada yada
But your site has been compromised and they know who your posts are from by ip address i heard
                                                                                                                    November 22/17



That asshole Kells has been spreading that story. He claims he has some one that can find out who is posting to the site by IP address. He should stick to telling his wife he is not screwing anyone on the side. She is evidently stupid enough to believe him. Before he or anyone else can get an IP address they would have to hack into the YAHOO server. If that dumb fu*k tried that the FBI would be knocking at his door and at that point he had better hope it is the FBI and not me. Drug use depresses some people while others develop delusions of grandeur.


There is no such thing as a c10 chevy van. Reguardless Bivens made a vehicle up. Call chevy. Theyll confirm they never sold a chevy c10. Its a non existant vehicle. So Bivens entire testimony should be not only tossed but its obvious by his statements he says. "I think it was a Chevy." Compare to his testimony it was a c10 chevy. That vehicle was never made. Bivens is lying. He simply made up a make of the van. Its non existant. Chevy will confirm this. Bivens should be by his testimony unreliable to all extents. So no, its irrelevant since the vehicle never existed.
                                                                                                                    November 22/17

Both pictures on this site portray a Ford Econoline van. Either Bivens is mistaken or fabricated his testimony remains to be seen.
Edsel Ford
                                                                                                                    November 22/17



Okay, this will clear up all the confusion Mr. Bivens created with his lies.

Say hello to Mr. Christopher Bivens, the DA eye witness. This photo tell anyone anything?

                                                                                                                    November 22/17

FCC unveils plan to repeal net neutrality rules

                                                                                                                    November 22/17

Birth of the POA, Stage One
Posted on January 23, 2013 by Oswego Historian
Formally initiated on April 14, 1923, the Oswego Harbor and Dock Commission (HDC) held its last meeting on July 1, 1955, five days before the new Oswego Port Authority held its first, formal meeting on July 6. During its 32 years, the HDC accomplished much and witnessed many changes on the Oswego waterfront (probable subjects of future stories).
Originally called the Oswego Port Authority, locally and in the state legislation, its birth was neither easy nor guaranteed. Many discussions, plans, negotiations, meetings, hearings, etc. were held before the new Authority was approved. During the years 1953 through 1955, the Oswego Palladium-Times (OPT) published scores of articles and editorials relevant to the process.
Formation of an Authority required input and support from local residents and groups, formal approval by Oswego City government, and substantial lobbying efforts before final approval in Albany.
That process was initiated in June, 1953, by Operation Oswego, a civic, non-profit, industrial promotion organization, itself formed in 1952 to promote business in the City of Oswego.
Operation Oswego’s president, F. Hosmer Culkin, appointed a Port Authority Committee, chaired by the Rev. Arthur W. Hergenhan. Its members were Alderman Thomas J. Christian, George Fitzgibbons, William Fleischman, Jr., Frederick J. Garahan, Clark Morrison, 3rd, the Rev. Thomas J. Murphy, David J. Read, and Peter J. Shortt.. The new committee was charged to investigate the feasibility of organizing a port authority here. They scheduled the first meeting for June 10 (OPT, 6-3-53, p18).
It turns out that 1953 was a particularly eventful year in Oswego! Joint construction of the St. Lawrence Seaway was under serious consideration by the U.S. and Canada, and the Port of Oswego stood to gain in the process, but had to demonstrate local support. It was a spirited mayoral election year in Oswego. The Harbor and Dock Commission was receiving some negative comments in the newspaper. The City was negotiating with NY State for transfer of lands around FortOntario for recreational fields. And, the hotly debated issue of public housing in Oswego was commanding much attention in government and the media.
In that milieu, a new Port Authority committee was tasked with gauging the feasibility of a new way of doing port business, one that depended upon formal local support, and one that needed to have formal bills passed by the NYS Senate and Assembly and then signed into law by the governor.
                                                                                                                    November 22/17

Mr Goey, Please Tell ...
the taxpayers , how much ( income is lost ) is being lost by “ not having “ a grass field vs. non grass ? And the push is to go “green “ has big tax breaks ! So where is this super , and of course the string ( board of education )of bobble heads ?

Want to cut costs? Eliminate leighton school, no play ground cost, eliminate the former high school principal that was promoted to a non needed job, fire the school superintendent , who is a self promoter, check back grounds of the present board of education members , what is the background that makes them qualified to make any decisions regarding taxpayers, students, construction, teachers, and how the board of education became separated from the city of oswego, ny .

So where does the self promotion get separated from the “ short man’s golden mountain of power “ ? looks like the sheep herder is doing a good job of controlling ( B. S .ing) staff, some teachers, some students and taxpayers !

Time to get involved ,figure out who are the B.S artists are, and vote !

Happy Thanksgiving and Good Holidays !
                                                                                                                    November 22/17

To: C10 van huh
In the Statement of Facts on P.7 1st paragraph, first line it states that Mr. Bivens saw a c10 chevy van in the parking lot. This I don't think is a quote from Bivens, but a statement from the OCSD or the DA.

MB did own a white van. In the 2014 stories where they had a "flip card, "mosaic" etc stories a guy stated that MB did own a white van that he junked with . It broke down, he got it fixed and lent it to a guy to use to haul junk. I can't remember if the make or model was stated.

                                                                                                                    November 22/17




I had a C 10 pickup back in the 70s and always thought the vans were C 10 too. I just never cared or looked that close to see that the "C" was actually a "G". Now reading his statement I see a lot more than has been talked about before. H said he recognized the van from the rust over the wheels and the bumper that hung down and a trailer hitch. He claimed he didnt stop because he didnt want to get involved.


Driving down a major highway in slush and snow he sees a woman struggling with a man and he still is observant enough to note rust, a crooked bumper and a trailer hitch yet the description of the man did not fit either of the Thibodeau brothers and the pictures of the van below show very little rust over the wheels.


A more likely story would be he observed a woman and a man in what he thought might be a domestic dispute and just kept going. Later he learned of the missing store clerk and began to feel bad about not stopping so he called the OCSD. Even though his original description of the van did not fit the Thibodeaus or there van the sherrifs show him a picture of Richards van an he then decided that was the one.

                                                                                                                    November 22/17


Wow this is crazy. Kindergarten girl hunting. Nice way to bring your children up.
6-year-old among the 1st minors to legally shoot a deer after new Wisconsin law - ABC News http://abcnews.go.com/US/year-1st-minors-legally-shoot-deer-wisconsin-law/story?id=51307310

                                                                                                                    November 22/17

10,000 people died waiting for a disability decision in the past year

                                                                                                                    November 22/17

Ms. Pam Caraccioli

                                                                                                                    November 22/17




Q: What constitutes a virgin in Alabama?

A: Any girl that can run faster than her brothers.







Today's Quote November 21/2017

Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly.

Robert Kennedy

WTH? Now we have a huge mess!! Leaves, tree branches still in road and plows doing their thing. HEY, because of the mild Fall, the trees are still loaded with leaves and most home owners could not rake them until recently...and it's too cold now to bag all the darn things! Why do we have expensive equipment , like the leaf vacuum, if it isn't used? It wouldn't take a genius at the DPW to know the city streets need to be cleared before the impending snow. Where are our aldermen, mayor and commissioner ? Do any of them notice the condition of the wards anymore? What a mess! I hope the voters will remember when these bumbleheads come up for election! Words are cheap!!
                                                                                                                       November 21/17

Bivens' Testimony C-10 Van
The fact it may have been a light blue C-10 van was given in Bivens' testimony. It's not that hard to find, guys.

                                                                                                                       November 21/17

Not so super! He has a bunch of suck ups in his pocket who will never disagree with him and his grand schemes...too much to gain folks? The egomaniac must want a field or complex bearing his esteemed name? Well, I wonder if he was as loyal to some of his personal friends as his minions seem to be? I wonder if he even showed up for Ron? What a mess! Right..you do it for the kids! You all should be ashamed...retire or resign, everyone of you!

                                                                                                                       November 21/17

OSWEGO - Continental Arms Collectors Association (CACA) had its annual Veterans Day Military and Naval Exhibit at the Oswego Elks Lodge Veterans Dinner on November 10. Featuring the Marine Corps 242nd anniversary displays included weapons, uniforms and accouterments from the U.S. Military and Naval Forces. (Left) John Pavel (CACA life member), George Clark (CACA president), Larry Ruth (CACA director), Suzy Beyer (CACA life member), Zachary Shurtleff (CACA member), Corey King (Fort Ontario AmeriCorps staff), Paul Lear (Fort Ontario superintendent).

                                                                                                                       November 21/17

Must be tom went to buy a pair of work boots for the reopen of 48. Jurk never done a days work. He will tell you that he's rebuild bridge's
                                                                                                                       November 21/17


Richard's van
Here's how these g, c things work for Chevy. There is no such thing as a c10 van. Ever. C10 is a pickup truck. GM had letter names for their body styles.
C - 2 wheel drive pickup
K - 4 wheel drive
G - van
The 10 means 1/2 ton, 20 3/4 ton, 30 1 ton. Bohrer drove a 1976, G20 3/4 ton.
                                                                                                                       November 21/17


Oswego County Road Use Tax
2018 Motor Vehicle Road Use Tax.... $750,000 in the budget to be collected from the taxpayers.

If we are funding, through our taxes, over $7,000,000 for the highway Dept/machinery Dept/snow removal Dept and another $6,000,000 for the sheriff's road patrol; Why,are we paying a Road Use Fee to renew our registration for roads that we build and maintain with our tax dollars? This is just hosing the taxpayers of the county! Those people that use our county roads that are not county residents get a free ride. Call you legislator and tell them to stop stealing our tax dollars with this "road use tax" when we renew our registration, which is required by law!
                                                                                                                       November 21/17

Osweego Hospital
128.62-01-01 641 Hospital N.P. Hospi 25210 25,785,000 25785,000 25785,000
Oswego Hospital Oswego 351200 466,900 COUNTY TAXABLE VALUE 0
110 W Sixth St B 29 25,785,000 CITY TAXABLE VALUE 0
Oswego, NY 13126 727-019-000 SCHOOL TAXABLE VALUE 0
ACRES 3.27
EAST-0837939 NRTH-1258570
DEED BOOK 458 PG-380

Oswego Hospital, Ann C. Gilpin (retired in 2015)
2014 compensation: $330,497
2013 compensation: $344,382
Change: -4 percent
Revenue: $112 million
Profit: $2.1 million

If the Oswego City Hospital is a for profit organization, why do they not pay taxes? Just the city alone would get over $450,000 in property taxes. when you go there, and the bill is due, watch how fast they get their collection agency on your back.
The county would be getting $232,000. I can understand a no tax policy for a not for profit, but am at a loss why they are not liable for taxes based on a $2,000,000plus profit. They don't have any problem sticking us with high fees for their services. If they paid their taxes, ours would go down. Can someone please explain?
                                                                                                                       November 21/17

Jim Coachmuckey
They kicked your obnoxious ass out of Oswego and you treated the kids like shit. Newman - we don't want you Waco ass in Mexico. Sorry you we beat up when you was a child and you are a want to be coach. You would have got hired by now so give it up. You suck as a coach and the kids really don't like you. You think it is normal to you to copy famous coaches words as your own? Please leave Mexico and be strange on your own.
                                                                                                                       November 21/17







Today's Quote November 19/20/2017

The undertaking of a new action brings new strength.
Richard L. Evans

C10 van huh...
How the hell would you know the van they are looking for is a c10 Chevy van? Maybe you need a knock on your door. No where does it say ever Bohrer had a Chevy c10. But your dead on. That's a fact you shouldn't and wouldn't know. Its not mentioned or documented anywhere.

                                                                                                                       November 19/20/17

Schoolboard, What is more Important
The students having afternoon clubs, english, math, science, music, yearbook, driver’s ed, health,.. which was cut by the board and the super of schools, so what is more important ?
And Mr. Gowey, what is this “ loss “ of income due to the fact that Oswego has “ green “ fields and the state and fed gov. give tax breaks for being “green “ ! But, you and the others that have been looking at this “seven years ago “ were not even looking at the student clubs at all ! All about the “ show “ !
You are sure enough NOT about the students, But having a statue in your honor, I am sure that you would like it almost life size ( make sure that you tell them that your height is really 5’-5’’ and not 6’-5’ !
Keep looking in the mirror at your nose !
                                                                                                                       November 19/20/17

C10 huh...
Richard's vans a 1976, which would make it a G10, G20, G30 series. Here are the 1976 specs from Chevy for the 1976 year. So no the c10 series was never, not once listed anywhere in any one of the witnesses statements, court documents, records. Not one person ever described the van as a white or blue c10-CHEVY. Bivens stated ,"I THINK it was a Chevy, van. FROM 1979-1986." The MAKE AND MODEL is not listed anywhere, as a definite . Not even in Bivens statements. So the c10 Is not a fact and isn't relevant. Because a 1976, is a G SERIES MODEL. All that's ever said is they witnessed a white, off white or blue van. Where you came up with a c10 is beyond me.


                                                                                                                    November 19/20/17


Murtaugh comments:
As a matter of fact I do on my way to new haven now had a nice road trip to fernwood too wink emoticon
Posted on Judge to prosecutor in Heidi Allen case: You missed chance to respond to wrongful conviction claim
9/18/2014 9:42 AM

Omg please no mistake we (3 of us) picked up two vans at gt house ... Me roger & a 3rd person picked up a dift van in fern wood I can't tell you where it was but I'm sure I can drive right to there like I did last week going to Gary's house ( that I had only been to twice before in the 90's
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:25 PM

It was a red house is all we can remember
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:17 PM

I'm sorry I don't I'd just be guessing but one of my helpers just asked me if I remember going to fern wood to get a white van at 1st didn't remember but after talking a bit I do now
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:08 PM

No in fern wood ( I think that's how you spell it
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:05 PM

Omg I don't know I just remember him coming to me wanting me to pick one up for him .. Never gave it much thought till tonight talking it over with my staff
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 10:55 PM

You all ready for this one ????? I do remember going with RB to fern wood to pick up a white van that he had to junk back around same time of the ha deal
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 10:52 PM

Tina Bennett Fighting For Fathers Rights
How much time do you think she will spend on your case when she devotes half of her TV commercial to taking shots at her ex husband and his family.
                                                                                                                    November 19/20/17


Richard murtaugh @rmroutlaw · Jan 14

#heidiallen after 20 plus years this is the best they can come up with? & it all started from towing a van that was never at Gary's .. Joke

                                                                                                                    November 19/20/17

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Swenkowski, Richard, Jenn Westcott, Bivens, Stinson, OCSD, DAs...and of course Gary:

Why didn't Swenkowski's testimony about seeing RT leave the store alone carry any weight?
RT walked out and HA was in the store when he left
Stinson walked in and NO HEIDI????? So what happened after Senkowski and RT left? What exact time was Bivens there? His story is confusing...why? Simple question and a simple answer...cover up?
Bivens saw the kidnapping, RT, Swenkowski, Stinson were there a little before it happened, did anyone see another person after they left?
Caught in so many lies in still an open case, why wasn't her stories followed up?
I simply don't believe Jenn Westcott......Oakes. Why not? You offered her immunity, must have believed it then,
and after she failed a poly and then said in a second meeting that she was told about what happened to HA, said "they brought her in a WHITE VAN"...you're right Mr. Oakes you shouldn't believe her. But part of LE is to pick apart lies and to follow up if you think it may lead somewhere. You guys did nothing of the sort. WHY NOT???

Everyone but you guys think it was a good start.
What PROOF did you have that GT was NOT home at the time of the crime. Did you check for foot prints in the snow at his house? Anyone see him at the store...NOPE. But you Dodd convinced a jury that he was there even if the description didn't fit the brothers.

Did you use a line up before the case? Never heard that you did. Is that standard police work in an investigation or is it a way to cover up and convict an innocent man? No line up ...hmmmm.

Why was your story about RT going to MA with HA in the trunk, destroyed in court by two deputies? Is that a lie or just another run around the outside and hope for the best. And you searched the car and found nothing.
Were Stinson, Bivens and Swenkowski given polygraphs?

If it happened T 7:42 am and Bivens saw it then Swenkowski, Stinson should have seen it too because RT left and Swenkowski said he waited for him to back out as he packed his cigarettes in his car.

With all these things pointing to innocent of the brothers, why didn't you look at other people? Did you have a hunch at who they may be? Did you ask neighbors of MB, Steen and Roger if they saw them leave early in the morning? Roger's wife said he did. There's a start and you again failed in your investigation....intentionally?

Lies for deputies on the stand, Jenn W. telling you what you needed to hear, witnesses did not id RT's van, just the opposite, they said (as your star witness Bivens said at first) that it wasn't RT's van.

Have you read any of the comments in the paper or on the web as we have uncovered a lot of loose ends in this case?

Do you guys sleep well at night, when the demons come into your mind. Wouldn't you like to have it stop? What an awful feeling, night after night and now you have the FBI to worry about and they are very serious people.

First one to give states evidence walks and all others will be put in prison!

                                                                                                                    November 19/20/17

Safety First!
Propylene Glycol vs. Ethylene Glycol: a *critical* difference of life or death
Propylene glycol is quite different from ethylene glycol, the anti-freeze used in automobiles. Propylene glycol is approved as a food additive in human food and in feed for animals, except cats, in the U.S. and Canada.
Ethylene glycol — not propylene glycol — is the active compound in most automobile radiator anti-freeze solutions, and is toxic to animals and humans when ingested. Propylene glycol has a different molecular structure, giving it different properties and allowing it to be used safely in animal feed, except for cats, as well as in human foods, such as cake mixes, salad dressings, soft drinks, popcorn, food coloring, fat-free ice cream and sour cream.

RV plumbing system antifreeze, or the antifreeze you might have in your hot water baseboard heating system, is “potable” , non-toxic, PROPYLENE GLYCOL (sometimes with potable, drinking alcohol or ‘Ethanol’ added).

Automobile radiator antifreeze is ETHYLENE GLYCOL, quite toxic.
                                                                                                                    November 19/20/17

Frustrated foreign leaders bypass Washington in search of blue-state allies


                                                                                                                    November 19/20/17







Today's Quote November 18/2017

Start with what is right rather than what is acceptable.
Franz Kafka

All Deals off?
In the real world, all deals would have been off, right after she pulled her stunt on the stand. In OZ..shes still free. So I would assume, all deals would have been off a long time ago. The longer they wait. They'll run out of statue of limitations and then well, no they wouldn't be. Be cause she's so far gotten away with it.
                                                                                                                            November 18/17

I liked it when she said something to the effect …. I can’t believe you still haven’t figured out there was another van. That is probably the main reason why Oaks said he did not believe her.


Canine Carry Outs Anti-Freeze Warning. Posted on Facebook check snopes for the facts

                                                                                                                            November 18/17

Anti freeze is ethylene glycol, never the less I still would not feed it to my pet.

Van Picture
The van in the picture is a Ford Econoline not a Chevy C-10. Don’t know if that C-10 description is relevant or not; just pointing out a fact
                                                                                                                            November 18/17

Fernwood Feed Mill Van
The picture is a little fuzzy, but the Fernwood Feed Mill van looks to be a darker blue than the van at Manwaring and Route 3. Also, the rear side windows are different (the lighter blue van has circular windows). It would be worth a shot for John O'Brien (who switched careers and is now an investigator with Peebles) to look into the history of this van. We all know Richard's van should have been returned to him a long time ago.

                                                                                                                            November 18/17

Sounds like Greg Aka the DA, that there's some big boys knocking on doors. It's not your buddies the Sheriffs. Sounds like your screwed. Did you truly think your Sheriffs had full jurisdiction. Not when it comes to corrupt politicians. It's not the Sheriffs making their rounds. It's officers with integrity.
                                                                                                                            November 18/17








Today's Quote November 17/2017

"There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true;

the other is to refuse to believe what is true."

Soren Kierkegaard


Parents of 4-year-old with cancer can’t buy ACA plan to cover her hospital care -


                                                                                                                            November 17/17

D&W store front
How in the heck could Richard have fit his van between the pump and Mr. Swenzkowki’s car to park in front of him if Mr. Swenzkowski arrived first? OR was Richard IN FACT telling the truth about parking BEHIND Mr. Swenzkowski per his statements?!! Hmmm, believe a witness who was not given a lie detector test, that we know of, or believe someone who WE KNOW passed a test?!
                                                                                                                            November 17/17


Lisa P. Email

                                                                                                                            November 17/17

People of OZ
(315) 701-0080 Lisa Peebles. Feel free to call her office.

                                                                                                                            November 17/17

West Monroe Scam
Pinnacle Road in West Monroe is a town road and has been paved by the county! Now it is getting shoulders put on.
Hummm Jimmy Kelly, Deputy Superintendent of Highways lives on that road!
I guess he needs a Great road for his residence, at big cost to taxpayers!
He forgets where he came from, and he treats the men that work in highway like garbage!
                                                                                                                            November 17/17

Gary the Innocent Video utube


Please share this, it's Gary's song in a video.
Law, won't you let that free man go... Twenty years of himself on a sheriff's shelf, He's been murdered one day at a time. The key that she's held, still she lives with herself -- The truth lies behind those cold blue eyes. The call she made shook up decades Of giving up on hope and life A murderer stands next to me, next to you As we wait in the grocery line. Law, won't you let that free man go. Law, won't you let that free man go. Way down in Oswego County Somebody done collected his bounty. Law, won't you let that free man go. His case was sealed from an inside deal He was sleeping away in his cell. They buried his sisters, mother, and wife, Insisting a personal hell. Will the truth be told from the ones who know Or the ones who have brushed it away. Pry back the boards and show us all toward The free man walking away.Law, won't you let that free man go. Law, won't you let that free man go. Free of guilt but still in prison, Hope of truth this mornin' risen. Law, won't you let that free man go. Law, won't you let that free man go. Law, won't you let that free man go. Free that man that's been forsaken Give him back the life we've taken. Law, won't you let that free man go.
                                                                                                                            November 17/17

Oswego Town
Sure glad I don't live in Oswego Town (Koulffussville, with a 18% property tax increase. Wasn't it just last year when he and the Oswego Town council wanted to spend over $1,600,000 for equipment, putting Oswego town in debt for years and more tax increases. It wasn't until the legislator in the 19th District ( M.Shadt) made people aware of this foolish expenditure and was able to get it on a ballot proposition, where the people of Oswego Town voted it down. People of the Town of Oswego should be glad they have a legislator that is willing to stand up and do the right thing for the taxpayers in her district, and the county.
Oswego town should be looking for a new town supervisor for the next election, or else turn out the lights when you move to another town or city.
                                                                                                                            November 17/17

This car still sits at Manwaring Road and Rt.3.
I believe it's the same van that was parked at the Fernwood Feed Mill. There's a story that the van used in the Heidi case was parked at the old Fernwood Mill under the Goodsell's noses. I personally asked Allen Goodsell if a van had ever been parked at the mill (I'm the owner) and he stated 2 different times "no".
I was given the picture of it sitting right out front of the mill, clearly visible from his front window. The picture had appeared in a local newspaper in an article about Fernwood. I asked several other neighbors if they ever seen it and they did. It was there so long weeds had grown around it. BUT yet Goodsell never seen it. Guess he lied. This van that's been parked at the Rt3 location really does look to be the same one. Had to be something to the story because 2 investors knocked at my door asking about a van at the mill. Never heard no more.
                                                                                                                            November 17/17

Who Do You Call ?
If side walks are not cleared, Houses have no handrail on their porches, decks above 2’ -0” who do the taxpayers call ? If a tree falls on a house, garage, shed, etc.. , is that suppose to be called in ? After all, we are in a structure conflict, since front porches are a topic, how come houses, garages, barns, sheds are not getting the building attention ?
Nice job of the oswego police dept., code enforcement letting the fork lift jump curb at the new dental site, also since it does not have a lic. tag ! And WHO fixes the curb work , if damaged ? Once again, the city of oswego, ny is clueless in construction !
Do they know that the war of 1812 is over ?
                                                                                                                            November 17/17

No one knows what to believe. The FBI has had 4 years to help this case. To bring charges against them. Instead they are focused on Doyle. If Gary dies. I'm sure the suspects are praying to God he does. They will walk Scott free. Totally disgusting. Oakes claims to be a man of God, Greg will be one of the ones he says Go away. I do not know you. He is nothing more than a criminal for obstructing justice.
                                                                                                                            November 17/17

Jennifer Wescott was given immunity from prosecution for lying on her police statements....Would all deals be off if the Feds charge her with perjury for lying under oath, in a Court of Law?
                                                                                                                            November 17/17

Keystone Pipeline Leaks 5,000 Barrels Of Oil In South Dakota, TransCanada Says

                                                                                                                            November 17/17








Today's Quote November 16/2017

To some lawyers, all facts are created equal.
Felix Frankfurter

Old Chevy C-10 Light blue van with dark blue doors on Route 3
I didn't get a picture driving by, but it is on Google Maps - taken Oct. 2013
There's a light blue Chevy C-10 van on State Route 3 in between Pulaski and Mexico - with dark blue doors - parked on a side lawn of a property in between Pulaski and Mexico on State Route 3 van before them. Not too many of them that look similar to RT's around, especially in Oswego County. . You can easily see it from the road. It's on the left-hand side if you're heading west (toward Mexico). It looks to be around the same year as RT's, but more closely matches the description of some witnesses. It would be interesting to see who the property owner is or who owned the before them. Not too many of them that look similar to RT's around, especially in Oswego County.
I didn't get a picture driving by, but it is on Google Maps - taken Oct. 2013

                                                                                                                            November 16/17


Ofd band aid bus
I see the fire departments Mercedes ambulance driving around town. The Mayor has still failed at getting rid of the tax payer funded, overtime scheme maker. The mayor must be in favor of them padding their pensions! Voters remember this come his re-election!!! He talks tough on saving money but NO ACTION Billy strikes again.

Request Menter if you need an ambulance
                                                                                                                            November 16/17

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
To re to me.....

If someone didn't call in for a sandwich then they got it just before HA was taken. HAD to be after 7:42 am after Richard was seen leaving ALONE!!! ( last customer but not the last one to see her alive)

Can anyone find a statement from anyone, including the OCSD that doesn't seem suspicious or looks like a lie?
Does anyone really think the FBI believes any of this child like lies and a Person there at the time of crime but didn't see anything. If Swenkowski was there and saw Richard, then the 7:42 am time is correct...has to be.

Did the person who said he got a call that said "VanPatten ordered the hit" ever tell that to anyone on this case?

VanPatten said there was going to be a big bust and put a "girl" to be used into it. Were there any other female CIs at this time? Why would a cop shoot his mouth off about a bust..THAT NEVER HAPPENED!!!!!?????

Heidi was a CI and Oakes and any other LE, DA, lawyer that says she wasn't is a liar. But why lie? To cover up a unlawful arrest, sale of coke by "others", help those that took her get away with it? The only reason you got away with HA NOT being a CI is because Judge King made sure of it. Signed card, code name, picture, other cops testifying to it...but no she wasn't a CI.

I don't know how you got away with it but I will tell you that if anyone ever did that to me, they better move far away before I get out...this is disgusting and it doesn't even seem to bother you at all. But maybe the FBI can get states evidence if they investigate this joke of an investigation. DOES IT BOTHER YOU GUYS THAT A VERY IMPORTANT MAN WAS IN THE 2014 COURT ROOM AND WHAT HE SAID? Start Sweating.
                                                                                                                            November 16/17

Lisa Peebles
Would anyone know her direct email or if she has appointments available where Oz people can go to speak to her?
                                                                                                                            November 16/17

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
To re to me.....

If someone didn't call in for a sandwich then they got it just before HA was taken. HAD to be after 7:42 am after Richard was seen leaving ALONE!!! ( last customer but not the last one to see her alive)

Can anyone find a statement from anyone, including the OCSD that doesn't seem suspicious or looks like a lie?
Does anyone really think the FBI believes any of this child like lies and a Person there at the time of crime but didn't see anything. If Swenkowski was there and saw Richard, then the 7:42 am time is correct...has to be.

Did the person who said he got a call that said "VanPatten ordered the hit" ever tell that to anyone on this case?

VanPatten said there was going to be a big bust and put a "girl" to be used into it. Were there any other female CIs at this time? Why would a cop shoot his mouth off about a bust..THAT NEVER HAPPENED!!!!!?????

Heidi was a CI and Oakes and any other LE, DA, lawyer that says she wasn't is a liar. But why lie? To cover up a unlawful arrest, sale of coke by "others", help those that took her get away with it? The only reason you got away with HA NOT being a CI is because Judge King made sure of it. Signed card, code name, picture, other cops testifying to it...but no she wasn't a CI.

I don't know how you got away with it but I will tell you that if anyone ever did that to me, they better move far away before I get out...this is disgusting and it doesn't even seem to bother you at all. But maybe the FBI can get states evidence if they investigate this joke of an investigation. DOES IT BOTHER YOU GUYS THAT A VERY IMPORTANT MAN WAS IN THE 2014 COURT ROOM AND WHAT HE SAID? Start Sweating.
                                                                                                                            November 16/17







Today's Quote November 15/2017

Sometime in the future - 25, 50, 75 years hence -

what will the situation be like then? By that time the Chinese will have the capability of delivery too.
Curtis LeMay

Of Course!!
Yes it does make the Thibodeaus innocent.
Leo Richardson and his brother were once arrested for holding a girl against her will. Leo resigned from his position, his brother was found not guilty. SHERIFF TODD said when asked about why Leos brother still had his job at the Oswego Jail, that "he was found NOT GUILTY by a jury of his peers. There fore by law he is innocent." And would be keeping his position. I guess that belief to Todd is upheld if AND ONLY IF your a political or county employee. Because last I knew. Richard was found not guilty. Yet, Todd, still holds on to, NOT- things they missed but things they covered up. Because and only because they all broke the law to gain this conviction. Now it's protect their own asses, from criminal racketeering and RICO charges. So the more they lie, the better off they think they are. Problem is, back then, social media was not as popular and easy to access as it is now. Now a days being able to have easy access and to see all of the information. It's easy to see, that Richard and Gary were both railroaded, intentionally. Goes back to what Bohrer said,"When you have more questioms than you do answers your problems from within."
Sheriffs give the Thibodeau man back his van. It is not evidence, when it has been cleared by FBI, NOT ONCE, TWICE. The van doesn't even match the tire tracks seen in this photo. Notice the officer bent over. Compare the location of the van to the one given on Bivens map. Not the same location. Their own evidence doesn't match the van you stole from Richard. Cough it up theifs.
Must be Sheriffs don't listen to anyone. Even Wescott told you. "I can't believe after 20 years I have to tell you there is another van." Oz Sheriff dept, simply is sending tax payers on a wild lying goose chase. They have for over 23 years.

                                                                                                                            November 15/17

Carol Waterbury
How could you show your face in public do business for your fat ass husband in Dunkin Donuts. You should leave that fat bastard cause you have wonderful pretty girls and your pretty yourself and not accept his abuse of women using his power to get his ricks off. One good thing is that you setting up apartment for a young girl and not letting your perverted husband do it! SHAME ON YOU!
                                                                                                                            November 15/17

Interior Decorator: Zinke’s Push To Redesign Flags And Accessorize With Dead Animals

                                                                                                                            November 15/17

In The Next Mayoral Election...
It would be nice to see a Democrat or Independent (a REAL Independent,not a conservative Republican who pretends to be an Independent as most of them do) run on an anti-corruption platform. The very arguments against corruption are being formed by the current City Hall administration on an hourly basis. Seems like a winning tactic to me.
Also WTF is up with Pauldine and Broadwell being awarded (given by current City Hall administration) infrastructure grant money from NYS? The greatest example,so far, of the rampant corruption in the Barlow administration. Hello? Is anyone paying attention besides Eric Schneiderman?
                                                                                                                            November 15/17

Giant Fossils at End of Breakwall Near Lighthouse?
Has anyone out there seen them? I've heard stories over the years but no pictures.
I do know that fossils in granite are fairly rare (in the US) and very ancient,but not terribly valuable (no dinosaurs) Somebody get out your snorkel and camera and get me some FN pix. I don't know if fossils are in native bedrock or on blocks (sourced from out of state) that were placed there by the Army Corps of Engineers many years ago.
                                                                                                                            November 15/17

Re: Gary Thibodeau.....Death of Common Sense
I don’t necessarily think the person the sandwich was made for “called” the order in. Anyhow, it is a FACT that Mrs. Duell AND Susan Allen testified that Heidi was scheduled to work on April 3, 1994. Note, also, that Mrs. Duell testified that the employee schedule was located on the bulletin board behind the counter? Certainly was not a “last minute filling-in” for the other clerk as some people make it sound. Look at the inside pictures of the D&W and one can clearly see that all a customer had to do was look and see the schedule for themselves. (Bohrer proclaims to be a regular but, conveniently, Mrs. Duell testified at the Hearing that she didn’t recognize him. NOO Duh when one sees the person 20+ years later and not shown a picture from the correct time period. Right, Pietroski?

Interesting enough, Mrs. Granger says in her statement that Mr. Stinson told her that he knew the clerk was Heidi. Mrs. Granger questioned “How did he know it was Heidi” if he didn’t see who the clerk was. Also, Mr. Stinson told her, via her statement, that he went outside to look for the clerk but Mrs. Granger didn’t see footprints around the building. Both of Mrs. Granger’s statements (April 3, 1994 and July 14, 1994) are available at the Oswego County Clerk’s Office or they can be posted here.

Also ask oneself this, if Heidi was kidnapped after making the sandwich 1-Where is the register transaction for the sandwich? 2-Brett should have been able to identify the customer that bought it from photos the police should have taken because “every customer was a potential suspect” or from the customer, themself? 3-Wouldn’t Heidi have put the meat back ASAP after the ham sandwich was made? 4-Bohrer says in his notes that Heidi made his sandwiches good….what kind? Did LE ever think of asking him that? Probably not. 5-What time did Brett REALLY leave the store?

Dodd, I have a main question for you….How can you effectively, unbiasedly, truthfully Judge another prosecutor or defender knowing the dastardly, underhanded, unethical games you played in your ADA/DA tenure? You, sir (and I don’t mean respectfully), should be number one behind bars. Interesting on some of your cross of Defense witnesses and the deputies, it sounded like you were on the defense….we know there are tire marks (that don’t match Richard’s van) but do you know when they were made….do you know the condition of the van on blah day or blah day….sometimes family, friends and loved ones don’t know someone like they think….Where are YOUR FACTS and PROOF that Gary was doing something other than what he and his alibi witness testified to? Mrs. Rain is not seeking another term…may behoove Oakes to follow suite. Get someone with integrity and ethics to prosecute on behalf of “The People”!!
                                                                                                                            November 15/17

Single Comment
To the pucker faced blowfish and the graduate of the Rochester Reformatory for Boys and two "colleges" as you like to refer to them to your children, in Elmira and Coxsackie, KARMA is a bitch....thats all folks....
                                                                                                                            November 15/17

J-Oakes & Sheriffs soon to look like further fools. Lie detector tests and results in the works for Lisa witnesses. When they pass, it'll infuriate the majority. Good luck Oakes. You will need it. New show coming this ones moving fast to save Gary. When results hit. Hope Oakes goes n buries his head in the sand. He deserves, another hard slap.
                                                                                                                            November 15/17


Time stood still for Heidi Allen
From the article, "Time Stands Still for Heidi": Later, while detectives combed the convenience store and surrounding fields,DUELL WOULD NOTICE THAT THE CLOCK WAS STILL ONE HOUR BEHIND. TIME HAD STOPPED FOR HEIDI.

From the article, " Emotional Testimony Offered" : The cash register detail tape was marked as evidence; Duell made not on a copy of it describing what the codes mean and what each transaction had entailed. She and Curtis had also checked the accuracy of the cash register's clock which HEIDI HAD JUST SET THAT MORNING TO DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME.

                                                                                                                            November 15/17



Mrs. Duell testified about the register tape, items purchased and time...??
It strikes me as odd that "The time had to be entered into the memory of the cash register. (Tr. 1488)."

Could it be possible that the register tape was...manipulated when the deputy went back on August 11, 1994 to get the register tape from April 2, 1994? Mrs. Duell's OCSD file was tampered with on August 12, 1994.









Today's Quote November 14/2017

I'm not the type to sit on the porch and watch life go by.
Sally Rand

Sorry people….those who don’t believe Richard Thibodeau even though he passed a lie detector test given by the Oswego County Sheriff’s. **No disrespect, you really think he could fool a lie detector test? He was the cooperative one…agreeing to the search of his van and giving DNA samples, etc I’d say he was one heck of a confident person that they wouldn’t find anything….because….he didn’t kidnap Heidi, he didn’t help to kidnap Heidi!!**

It Is a fact that he told law enforcement twice, on April 3, 1994 and April 9, 1994 that he paid with 4 $1 bills. In my math book, the cash register should have said one dollar less had Richard actually made that transaction at that time.

BS-“good arrest, good conviction”. Dodd’s theory is they acted together. Did you even read Richard’s statement, Todd? Probably not with your “limited involvement” in the investigation. The burning and burying on Gary’s property didn’t work out for you. The rolled item taken into the woods didn’t work out for you.
                                                                                                                            November 14/17

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Re: Another Unusual Reply

I posted that on Syracuse.com a while back and thought about MB and maybe he called to order a sandwhich
to see who was there. Who orders a sandwich at 6am? Did Bret hear the phone ring? Was the sandwich for herself? They missed a lot didn't they.

Another thing that bothered me was Stinson said Heidi was setting the cash register to the wall clock and it was distorted. I've never been in there in 1994 so I didn't know if there was a clock on the wall. But I did see a clock over the counter but she couldn't see it from the cash register...so I was wondering about that also with the other 22k other things in this case.

Funny how many "leads" we the readers have found. Spacecube on Syr.com is a great source, she/he has read the trial transcript and really knows a lot.

Also to the person that posted about Richard taking HA back to the store and the snitches said she wasn't there, wouldn't that make them innocent? But they lied because Swenkowski and Richard were there at the same time and both saw her...BUT STINSON DIDN"T???? Still bothers the hell out of me but I am not accusing him of any crime...just can't get past it.

You have info please post and keep it private if you are scared, or send it to Lisa P. Please, it's been to far gone with this case and the "FACTS".

We must hope for an FBI investigation and I think there may be one as that GUY in court in 2014...who was he, why was he there and what do they know or suspect. Hope there is an H-BOMB coming to Oswego County.
                                                                                                                            November 14/17

Police Blotter
On 11/9/17 at 9:30 p.m., Roger L. Breckenridge, 49, of 410 W. Embargo St., Rome, was arrested based on a Bench Warrant issued out of Oswego County Court.
Mr. Breckenridge was remanded to the OCJ to await Oswego County Court in session.
                                                                                                                            November 14/17







Today's Quote November 13/2017

The way to get things done is not to mind who gets the credit for doing them. Benjamin Jowett
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The way to get things done is not to mind who gets the credit for doing them. Benjamin Jowett
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The way to get things done is not to mind who gets the credit for doing them.
Benjamin Jowett


Another Unusual fact
We know Bohrer would have Heidi make him sandwiches. That is a fact in this. What is it Stitson describes seeing left in the deli area?? Meat on the slicer. What is it. Heidi was doing inside the store the very moment she was taken? Where was she really standing? Was her back at any point to either entrance? Possibility she never saw it coming. Did someone order a sandwich to distract her? Lots of questions. Most employees do not leave a slab of meat on the slicer. Its typically put back where it can stay cool. It's logical to believe. Someone came in, asking for asandwich.
Here's the proof
If someone distracted Heidi, by the slicer in these photos. In order to operate the slicer. She would have her back to the entrance. Notice the entrance right behind where she would have been located. Where and when is there ever fresh meat left, untouched on any slicer? In April 3, 1994 there was. Was she interrupted in the middle of slicing meat for a Sandwhich? Or was she standing directly in front by the cash register. In both positions, the entrance is behind her.



                                                                                                                            November 13/17

Send that pitcher to the mayor of the city truck. He will want your vote so he will do some thing about
                                                                                                                            November 13/17

RE: People of Richland
When they are not screwing the farm animals they are doing there brothers and sisters. A little man boy love is not out of the ordinary.
                                                                                                                            November 13/17

Of DPW....
I would be paying for my own fuel , personal expense ! After all, you can not suck up gas, new truck fun, and , get this , hire, people and give them a job, which they pay taxes, which helps the local tax base , after all, the board of education ’s blind eye, to the greed of power, can be shown by the self-interest of who pays more in taxes and i taught students, so give me the “ I Am Better Than You Award “ .
The Taxpayers Of The City Of Oswego, NY , do not stand a chance !

Code Enforcement, drive around and see the house’s and garages, barns , sheds , etc on the home owner level, that are under code, under value ! Do You Job !
                                                                                                                            November 13/17










Today's Quote November 12/2017

God cannot alter the past, though historians can.
Samuel Butler

Where Is Heidi …. Follow The Money
I don’t know if this has been addressed here or not but why, in the middle of suspected crime scene, did the Sheriffs investigators let the owner of the store take the money from the cash register? The store opened at what 5:00 AM and Heidi goes missing around 7:30? So in 1994 there could have been what $150 - $200 to open and in the we hours of Easter Sunday morning they may have sold another $150 - $200 worth of gas, cigs and newspapers? What possible excuse could there have been for taking possible evidence from a suspected crime scene without it having been tagged, bagged or fingerprinted? I want to here Maurice “are you out of your ever lovin” explain that one.
                                                                                                                            November 12/17


City truck in Scriba?
Looks like Kell's girl Friday can take her truck home. Maybe it will help her go unnoticed showing up to work whenever she feels like it. Must be nice to get a Foreman's job handed to you without competing for it ( was never posted), sliding in without taking the required Civil Service Exam, and now get's to take the city truck home. (She was taking the truck home all along from what we hear.) What could she possible be on call for....a tipped over flower pot? One of the custodians break a broom? See, just another perk of being a friend of Mr. Gonna Rob You Blind King Kells. Dig deep tax payers, it's only going to get worse and you haven't seen anything yet.
Not a good picture, but it's clear enough to see it's a city truck.
How come there are so many foreman's trucks being left at the DPW? Shouldn't they all be able to bring their trucks home?

                                                                                                                            November 12/17

Re: Exspress Auto Care
Just write the NY State Inspection Number that is posted in front of the building and report it to the DMV

                                                                                                                            November 12/17


Usual Facts lol


Does anyone find it unusual if you were to take out Richard or Gary Thibodeau. The distraction. Cross off all lies, or anywhere their names come up. Exclude them as suspects. What is left. Unusual facts.
Fact -Bohrer ran down the road screaming on the phone, to the sheriff's. "I know what happened to Heidi. Call Bobby Wheeler." Connection 1, Bobby Wheeler being known and requested by Michael Bohrer. Funny how Bohrer knew Robert Wheeler by his nickname.
Fact - it is documented in the Sheriffs own writing. Gram Breckenridge had made a comment," That she knew where Heidi was buried but couldn't tell anyone." Rogers own family has a secret.
Fact- Trudy the psychic Bohrer was driving around with. Was once married to officer Lortie. Another connection. Or just a simple fact. That Bohrer is driving around with a huge connection to Officer Lortie.
Fact- Breckinridge and Maynes were making comments of involvement.
Fact-Bohrer met with FBI in 95, was listed as a person of interest.
Fact-They used the idea because Gary and Richard helped search. They must be guilty. Facts, documents, photos show. Dan Barney, David Maynes, Brett Law, Mrs. Kris Duell, partial store owner are all through the old news and helped search for Heidi Allen.
Fact - Sheriffs noted and stated all doors the customers used were unlocked. Oakes suggest only the one was. Which ones lying Oakes or the Sheriffs.
Fact-Sheriff Nellis stated in 94, Gary was arrested because he matched the one who had grabbed Heidi. But Sheriff Todd testified Gary matched the eye witness as a driver. So which ones lying?
Fact - The sheriff's did deny help of 120 investigators from across the state. Denied the help. Then Cuomo sends over 200 national guard and volunteers.
Fact-Kris Duells file was tampered with prior to Gary's trial. She also helped man the search areas. Is this why Rice Road was never searched.
Fact-Several days in to the kidnapping Sheriffs said there was no proof a crime was ever committed and ended the on foot searches.
Fact-Heidi family flew in Benningfield. Benningfield sends request for searches. Thus bringing up the problem. About the then lie, they never denied help.
Fact-Bohrer David Maynes snuck on Gary Thibodeau property at 2 am. He was arrested. His excuse, he wanted to make sure the cops didn't plant anything. Is what he told reporters. What he told police was he was checking on the dog.
Fact-Reporters caught the Sheriffs pulling a shovel with human tissue on it from an investigators vehicle. When asked why they had it. They declined to respond. Smh..maybe Maynes knew Gary didn't do it, cause he did. Knew these cops would plant evidence.?
Fact-They there are to many actual facts in this. To many, unusual coindencences with all the same names. When you minus out either Thibodeau brother. You can clearly see, something's wrong. How Ironic all those same names that were named in 94, 95, reports, news, interviews, so on, are in play once again. Ask yourself. What are the chances. One in a million. An officer once said it best. " To many coincidences equal guilt."
                                                                                                                            November 12/17

Look Who Is In Jail Again

                                                                                                                            November 12/17


ABS. Siding And Tree Fall
So how come a “ barn that has lead paint and asbestos siding and as a structure shift ( Big right angle tree limb ) ( shifted structure ) has not been reported and inspected by the Zoning Dept., Code enforcement Dept., DPW. Dept. DOL ., DEC., ?
After all , this “ barn “ has been in disarray since 1980 !
Time for Mr. Bell to do his JOB !
                                                                                                                            November 12/17

Re: Gullible People of The Town of Richland
Roy Moore is being asked to step down from the Senate race for ALLEGED sexual misconduct...
BUT SHAWN DOYLE WAS "ARRESTED" and he's still a legislator????
And is still employed at the nuke plant in security???
And President of several organizations???
FBI and State Police just don't hand out arrest warrants for fun.
I hear he's being investigated for trafficking also and could bring down some bigger fish.
His father cover up on his car accident on rt.81. Wonder what he'd think now is little boy. Rolling in his grave maybe.
Shawn is not who people think is. Always playing Mr. Nicey Nice to cover up his bullshit!
Thinks his political friends will get him off on these charges. Where's Claudia Tenney?? She's been at his parties lately drinking it up, what does she think? Or is she in hiding over it and now not claim to know him?? Someone needs to interview her.
Shawn is hiding out at his mommy's, the same mommy who wasn't in the car accident with daddy....LOL
Time for several to come forward and tell of Shawn's antics with them.
Ooooooo please do!!!!

                                                                                                                            November 12/17








Today's Quote November 11/2017

You are not only responsible for what you say, but also for what you do not say.

Martin Luther

the super of schools wanted the taxpayers ( you ) to know about afternoon clubs being cut, teacher aids being cut ,then hired, then cut, then he should announce it and put it into a worksheet , then put it in the paper! Not everybody can make it to a meeting , after all, don’t you want the taxpayers to be informed ? If monies are not in the budget, then how come sports monies ( all of a sudden appear ) but Band, after school field trips , club monies are not available ! But there is a promotion for the former high school principal ,to a postion that is not needed, nor is she certified to do ! Must do a good job of waxing the head and shining those “ you will look taller shoes “.
Must be barlow and kells have many of those shoes in their closet and work cars and trucks ! After all, you have to look taller than the helpers on the Wizzard Of Oz !
                                                                                                                            November 11/17

The Innocent in the land of OZ
They don't believe in FBI, that's obvious. They truly think no ones paying attention. Sorry to tell them. They have been implimented 4 years ago. Every move they've made, every lie they've told has been documented. Their clock will someday not tick. The man in court. Was making fun of them. He has far more power than any sheriff with a toy badge. He saw straight through them. One comment he made. "This isn't the first time he was called to OZ." If you ask any of the ones sworn to protect you from OZ, they wouldn't believe their names on any FBI LIST. Sorry to pop their little lying bubble. But there names were given by many. I do not doubt the claims coke was being sold out of any dept up there or by any cops there in OZ, Bohrer use to meet Mr. Bobby Wheeler right across from Medspar, maybe Bobby needs a physical and should tell the truth, before its to late for him. He was spotted repeated times in his black dark tinted window car, parked across from Medspar, with good ol Bohrer hanging from the driver side window. Is that why Bobby, Bohrer says 2 things that should spark anyone. "An officer showing cocaine symptoms on the stand (must be Bohrer was in Gary's court room), that wheelers business is no good." When I personally was asked, who wheeler may be. First response was Bobby. Bobby has always been dirty. That is not something he could seem to hide at all, ever. For the good Sheriffs to put blinders on. God forgive them, they to have a nice spot in Hell, a long with Oakes, Moody, Todd and Dodd. Here's a hint Sheriffs. Many are coming for you. Times passing. In the end, your clock will stop with feds, few dozen cuffs. Do you truly think messing with a justice dept employee Lisa was going to get you anywhere, it won't. Court order comes in, it'll take from what I am told 6 hours to round you all up. Cowboy FEDS vs cop wanna bees, which ones going to win? Here Oakes a tad bit of a hint. Go pull files on East Coast resorts another coke drop off place. Ask campers from the 90's what Bohrer buddy Fabian was flying in and landing on the water, ask them you worth less DA what it is they saw. Fabian also walked away from Murder charges. How convient. I'll give you one hint. It goes up your nose. You might want to check Wheelers nose, find out why he shows signs of drug use.
                                                                                                                            November 11/17

Vanpatten corrupt to the core
I once received a phone call. From someone who helped move the van, he screamed, "Vanpatten ordered the hit on Heidi." That I do not doubt. Vanpatten is knee deep in this. He is the main problem. Notice he is no where to be found. Hiding just like the Sheriff. Vanpatten everyone is well aware you are also knee deep in to the drug field. Funny how that all works for you. How is your buddy Leo Richardson, the fella who was also arrested for holding a girl against their will? Whom owned the bar your corrupt ass rated Heidi out at? The bar known as a drug bar. Vanpatten you truly think no one really knows. Many do. Some have made calls about you. Cuffs, a jump suit and some feds, will bring pure justice. Only then, will Heidi and anyone you have ever hurt get justice. When that day comes. Many will cheer FEDS on.
                                                                                                                            November 11/17







Today's Quote November 10/2017

We live in a society exquisitely dependent on science and technology,

in which hardly anyone knows anything about science and technology.
Carl Sagan

Gullible People of The Town of Richland
I find it incredible that S. Doyle even got one vote for legislator in the Town of Richland after State Police Wednesday Oct 26, 2017 arrested Legislator Shawn Doyle for multiple counts of endangering the welfare of a child.
893 ballots were cast, with 540 people voting for a person that endangered the welfare of a 15 year old child and lied to the State Police about what he had done. This was 16 days before the election. It was on all the news channels and in all the papers on the front page. Yet, 540 people endorsed this mans actions and cast their votes for him, knowing that he was involved in some kind of sorted involvement with a 15 year old male child.
I give credit to the 43 voters that wrote in another persons name for the position of Legislator, and the 310 voters that did not vote at all for that position, but am shocked, that a majority of the voters in this this town finds this kind of sorted action acceptable. I guess that when you are that isolated from the real world, anything goes, to include the abuse of a child.
                                                                                                                            November 10/17

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
To: Theories up the ass and last witness.

this what I think too. This case has so many holes, you could walk thru it. Loved both of your posts.
Problem is when the Judge, DA and cops are all trying to cover up a bad arrest and conviction it's hard to uncover and get what you want....BUT NOT FOR THE FBI!!!

Nothing in this case makes sense except that LE wanted a quick arrest to put an end to this and not to get themselves in trouble. One poster said a few weeks ago that a retired cop told him that coke was being sold out of the OPD...true? Who knows but I've heard the same thing.

Find the old Peeled Onion blog and read Mrs. Granger's statements when she arrived at the store....

Is that why Mrs. Granger's statements were stamped late?

Face it fellas, the only hope you have for not going to prison is if the FBI or the DOJ or the NYS atty's office doesn't do a full investigation. Only a child would believe any of this investigation was done without corruption.


Does Jenn Westcott feel like an ignored woman after she spilled he guts to the OCSD inv. and nothing was done about it? She told you what happened and you sat there and ignored it. Would you please respond and let us know why?
                                                                                                                            November 10/17

Deceitful Officials
Can someone that is educated please explain to us how Kelly Lagoe, sister of Mike Barry, the Scriba Town Highway Superintendent, tried to run for the Scriba Town Supervisor, when her brother that is currently holding the position of the Scriba Town Highway Superintendent? This is nepotism. Was this even legal? This has conflict of interest written all over it!

As we all know, the highway budget is the highest in terms of dollar value $, within all the budgets of the town of Scriba; which reiterates our concern of nepotism (Kelly Lagoe and Mike Barry being siblings). This is certainly a conflict of interest regarding contract negotiations, as well as other diversities that the elected "Town Supervisor" would have to approve and sign off on.

Additionally, why was it approved to pay a town worker time and half (estimated @ $300) to drive Mike Barry around town, for one work day because he is unable to lawfully drive a vehicle because his driving privileges / license has been revoked due to his guilty verdict of his DWI? http://www.syracuse.com/news/i ndex.ssf/2016/11/scriba_voters _to_determine_fate_of_highway_ superintendent.html How can this be approved by the current Town Supervisor; Ken Burdick and the committee? This is total negligence of the tax payers hard earned money to be wasted on, driving an elected town official around that lied to the voters claiming he never had a DWI, when in fact he did and has had multiple. He deceived the voters by keeping his DWI a secret until the polls closed at 9:00PM. Such a disgrace to the voters of Scriba.

Why do the Town of Scriba elected town officials turn a blind side to this? Why do you allow this activity to take place using tax payers hard earned money? How do you justify paying an hourly Scriba town employee time and half; approximately $300 to drive Mike Barry around because he was reckless enough to risk the lives of others; this is such a careless act.

Additionally, why is he able to drive a mower/tractor down the road? Why hasn’t the sheriff’s department done something about that?
“In the state of New York; a motored, sit down power mower constitutes as a motor vehicle for the statute”.

So, we ask, the current Scriba Town Hwy Superintendent, Mr. Mike Barry; brother of Kelly Lagoe, why you are riding your mower/tractor on a public street that is illegal because you have had your driving privileges and your driver’s license revoked due to your recent DWI, how do you justify these actions to us as tax payers? You are supposed to be someone we trust and look up to, you represent our community here in Scriba. Why don’t you get off of your lazy ass and try riding a bicycle that is not powered by a motor? Who knows, maybe with some experience gained, you will be able to start living a healthy lifestyle and not show signs of extreme alcoholism.

Mike, because you have deceived us about your DWI, we do not trust you. You waste our money having a driver because you can’t drive, yet you drive your mower tractor on a public road thinking you are above the law when you know it’s against the law. What is wrong with you? Is your sister, Kelly Lagoe trustworthy? We are new to this community of only five years, yet we have heard nothing but negative things about your sister Kelly Lagoe. People say she is a bulldog and just intimidates people. People of our community say that the only reason she got in the position she has now is because of you.

And to add insult to injury, his daughter gets a DWI shortly after his DWI. Sounds like some intervention needs to take place in the Mike Barry household before one of them negligently kills someone due to their drinking and driving.
https://dmv.ny.gov/brochure/c- 12.pdf

The committee and the Town Supervisor should have raised a red flag on this. Where are the morals and ethics in this equation? How can our town tax payers feel confidence with people such as Mike Barry lying to the towns people? How can he feel good about holding important information back from the tax payers just long enough to get votes to put him back into the Scriba Town Highway Superintendent position?

The town officials have turned their backs to ethics and morals to the tax payers of our community.
We would like to make note that this is not a blog about “roasting” Mike Barry, more so, it is to bring a spotlight to what has been going on in our community in Scriba.

Since Mike Barry has proven that he is not trustworthy and has lied to the tax payers and has not shown any common human decency, can we trust his sister, Kelly, that is known to just be a loud bark?
                                                                                                                            November 10/17

Could Not Get Close..
At 9:30 A.M. , 11-9-2017 , a new ford ( oswego D.P. W truck with two people in the cab ) blasted thru fulton, ny fast !! Once they hit 481 south of the city, call them gone ! Tried to catch up at 75 mph, to take pics, but it was not fast enough ! And decided the risk of a speeding ticket was not worth it ! I will say though, it is nice to see a lot of new equipment for the DPW, after all , the taxpayers have deep pockets, just ask Mr. Goey and the current and past board of education members , and of course, the REAL DECISIONS to be made was “ cream cheese with my begal, and yes, i would like another coffee refill “.

What a bunch of phonies and Miles Becker , i bet even pours the coffee and spreads the jam !

Ask the question, if the city of oswego, ny ,board of education, harborfest, to name a few, wanted the taxpayers to be informed, they would print it, but they do not, so one has to question ,why the lack of information ( all about control )? Would you want your Doctor to withhold information about your health ?
                                                                                                                            November 10/17









Today's Quote November 8-9/2017

You always admire what you really don't understand.
Blaise Pascal

Theories up the ASS
One theory was Gary and Richard picked Heidi up. Went to Gary's. Gary and Heidi enter the woods. Start arguing, Gary then hits her in the head with a shovel. They then bring Heidi back to the store. Richard forgets his smokes. Upon returning Heidi is missing. Per Baldasaro theory. So who took Heidi after being dropped off?

Second Theory is a witness saw Gary and Richard carry something rolled up and taken in the woods. So if she's rolled up in something and taken in the woods. Then apparently Heidi was never dropped off back at the store, per Baldasaros claims.

Third theory they couldn't have carried her off in any woods if Gary was then blamed for burning her remains in his wood stove and then burying her on his property.
So, some how she removed herself from the store. After coming back from Garys, was then carried off inside a rolled up item, taken in to the woods. Then burned in a stove that sat right beside Gary's home, later to be buried on his property. Quite a series of theories. But these aren't all.

The fourth is opportunity. Crime of passion per Sheriffs comments on Dateline. In turn it contradicts Baldasaro the jail house snitch, who says Richard and Gary planned to meet with Heidi to talk to her.

Opportunity is never a planned event. That’s probably why the Sheriff himself has learned to shut up. "There are no cabins there never were.", " James Steens not a bad guy.",..the Sheriff and it's offices look like morons. No Sheriff the only one out of their ever loving minds are those supporting this conviction and any if you corrupt officials. Due to political status, job title, you name it, it doesn't matter. Right is right "Sheriffs" and this is all wrong. If they support you. Their IQ, can't be to high. There is a point. Bad cops, make them all look corrupt.
                                                                                                                            November 8-9/17

I thought it was illegal to block fire hydrants.
I hope you didn’t vote for this bone head.

                                                                                                                            November 8-9/17

city spending
Just a couple of years ago the city was broke. Firemen were let go etc. Now you have the DPW God spending money like crazy. Hiring friends, promoting friends, giving friends pay increased by the thousands of dollars, there will be 5 (yes, 5) secretaries at the DPW, renting and buying equipment (some of which is not needed...like a $10,000.00 a year lunch trailer). Does Kells really need two 55" tv's in his office? So my question is, where is the money coming from? Is that why we had the 3.+ percent increase? What will the increase be next year? Here's a good one.....Kells will be running the DPW workers and equipment around the clock 7 days a week and on holidays for the winter. What will they be doing when it isn't snowing? How much added stress will it put on the equipment running it 24/7? Added repairs, increased electric usage, and increased gas usage as well. So how will this save money? And they say the Fire Department was gouging the city.....Well, Kells and gang are making the Fire Department look like saints. The newly elected council better do there job and demand answers. He is out of control and the Mayor is friend blind!
                                                                                                                            November 8-9/17







Today's Quote November 7/2017

The Earth is the cradle of humanity, but mankind cannot stay in the cradle forever.
Konstantin Tsiolkovsky

RE: Trump is a Flaming A-hole
You must be mistaken about Trump being a flaming a-hole. Maybe it is his Orange glow that makes him the flaming a-hole he really is.

                                                                                                                            November 7/17

Bobby Baldasaro
Has anyone besides Dodd seen the notes about Bobby?

HHmmm. A report from Florida probation says they recommend that his probation be revoked and "2 years community control for closer supervision". Notes show that a governors warrant was issued for him. They were going to hold him up in MA so he can testify in NY "then we can justify putting him back on probation". What? He got probation for testifying in NY.

Damn, and I thought it was testified to that neither inmate received any benefit for testifying.?!

It's all in black and white...Bobby did.
                                                                                                                            November 7/17



They are promising free drinks and a ride to the polls for people that vote for her.

                                                                                                                            November 7/17

After Texas Massacre, The State's Attorney General Calls For More Guns At Church

                                                                                                                            November 7/17

Heidi Allen
It is refreshing after all this time to see your readers are getting closer, the post that stated the officer did this and that. the same officer that was infatuated with this new young informer, who lost her card at the same place she was taken from, find out who got her the job. could it be the same officer that happened to pass by that morning and was flagged down, fits the FBI profile, who manipulated the investigation toward the two brothers or others near by.
                                                                                                                            November 7/17

DHS ends protected immigration status for Nicaraguans, but Hondurans get extension

                                                                                                                            November 7/17







Today's Quote November 6/2017

The only courage that matters is the kind that gets you from one moment to the next.
Mignon McLaughlin

Here are some more Facts that Oakes and the Leos seem to by pass.

Fact - the same officer whom exposed Heidi is one who met with Richard Thibodeau.
Fact - The same officer exposed her twice, not once as Oakes and Sheriff like to think.
Fact - This officer knew Mensch, whom is great buddies to Dan Barney
Fact - This officer exposed Heidi to Mensch.
Fact - Heidi then vanished.
Fact - They hid all info on Bohrer even though FBI took his statement in 95 and he was listed as a suspicious person
Fact - Dan Barney was real probable suspect
Fact - Store owners file was breached prior to Gary's original trial
Fact - They with held the suspect list
Fact - They with held CI card, per Terry Whipple testimony, "I can not give to defense what was not given to me."
Fact- Gary, nor Sharon ever went to Mass, per Sheriff own testimony and paperwork of them detailing Gary's Cadillac in his driveway the night of April 3, 1994.
Fact - The Sheriff dept and the DA office are habitual liars.
Fact - The higher powers in OZ, have no idea, all eyes from higher authority have watched every move they have made for 4 years for a reason.
Fact - Officer Petrowski disposed of, stole or has hidden evidence. Just may have been caught by higher authority, than himself.
Fact- citizens were complaining even DA Oakes went around spewing an entirely new theory about Gary throwing Heidi remains off a cliff in MASS, even though evidence shows Gary was in OZ, NY.
Fact Greg seems to believe the words only from Baldasaro, but clearly bypasses the suspects own admissions.
Fact everyone but Baldasaro to Oakes is hear say. Even though it's a fact Baldasaro in the Sheriffs papers claims he heard everything from a man named chicken.
Fact- Chicken tells the Sheriffs. He hears nothing from Gary. Is that why Chicken wasn't called to testify.
Fact That Donald Dodd is a dirty ass DA, and Oakes is right on Dodds heels.
                                                                                                                            November 6/17

Trump is a Flaming A-hole

Donald Trump: “[I have] one of the great memories of all time.”

His claims of having an excellent memory notwithstanding, Trump uttered the phrase “I don’t remember” 35 times in testimony last year" while he was being deposed for a lawsuit concerning Trump University.
Most recently on Wednesday, Trump couldn't remember the name of a U.S. soldier killed in Niger during a condolence call.
President Trump on Friday sought to diminish the importance of the campaign foreign policy meeting where former adviser George Papadopoulos tried to broker a connections trip to Russia at a Trump campaign meeting, with the president now claiming, that he "did not remember what was said".
He also doesn't remember being a racist in 1973 when he tried to chage blacks twice as much for rent that he did for the same apartment for whites to keep the blacks out of his buildings. He was sued in Federal Court, and again, under oath could not remember anything.
What an A-hole!
                                                                                                                            November 6/17

Going Around Trump, Governors Embark on Their Own Diplomatic Missions

                                                                                                                            November 6/17







Today's Quote November 5/2017

The secret of getting ahead is getting started.
Mark Twain

Crowded field in Scriba town elections

Rob “Ramsey also works as the code enforcement officer for Minetto and Scriba, as well as Scriba’s junk enforcement officer. Previously he served as Scriba’s Planning Board ordinance officer.

Yeah he picks up the paychecks but don’t call him to enforce anything That would mean he might have to do some work.
                                                                                                                            November 5/17

East Seneca St Bridge
FYI: Structure Number: 225629, Location: IN OSWEGO (Lat: 43.465339, Lng: -76.491378), Route carried "on" structure: City street , Year Built: 1939, Year Reconstructed: 1980, Status: Open, Structure Length: 8.62m (28.28ft), Average Daily Traffic: 2,934 (year 2009), Truck Traffic: 5%, Average Future Daily Traffic: 3,546 (year 2034), Design Load: HS 20, Features Intersected: CSX TRANSPRTATION, Facility Carried by Structure: E SENECA STREET
Minimum Vertical Clearance: 30+ m (98+ ft), Kilometerpoint: 1.287, Lanes on structure: 2, Owner: City or Municipal Highway Agency, Approaching Roadway Width: 9.1m (29.9ft), Material/Design: Prestressed concrete continuous, Design/Construction: Box Beam or Girders - Multiple, Number Of Spans In Main Unit: 4, Length of Maximum Span: 20.7m (67.9ft), Curb or Sidewalk Widths: Left: 1.5m (4.9ft), Right: 1.5m (4.9ft), Curb-To-Curb Width: 9.1m (29.9ft), Out-to-Out Width: 12.8m (42.0ft)

Condition: Deck: Fair, Superstructure: Satisfactory, Substructure: Satisfactory, Operating Rating: 89.8 metric tons, Method Used To Determine Operating Rating: Load Factor (LF), Inventory Rating: 44.5 metric tons, Method Used To Determine Inventory Rating: Load Factor (LF), Structural Evaluation: Equal to present minimum criteria, Deck Geometry: Meets minimum limits, Underclear: Somewhat better than minimum adequacy, Approach Roadway Alignment: Equal to present minimum criteria, Length Of Structure Improvement: 8.62m (28.28ft), Designated Inspection Frequency: Every 24 months, Inspection Date: July 14, Bridge Improvement Cost:$813,000, Roadway Improvement Cost: $476,000, Total Project Cost: $1,289,000 ( Estimate for 2014), Wearing Surface/Protective System: Wearing Surface: Integral Concrete

Read more: http://www.city-data.com/bridges/bridges-Oswego-New-York.html#225629#ixzz4xTUzlkUu

                                                                                                                            November 5/17

Ambulance Privatization
Other communities are smartening up! Still our mayor has refused to officially announce the decommissioning of our tax payer funded ambulance! Remember this at the polls on Tuesday. Wasting tax money!!!! MENTER COSTS THE CITY NOTHING!!!

Outsourcing ambulance services in Manlius

                                                                                                                            November 5/17

I see they have that little weasel Pimpski for a chief in Manlius but it looks like the village board is on to his bullshit.

Emmons and Walker for 15th Legislator District...NOT
Well, we have heard from both candidates in the Pal-times, and talk about a line of bull $hit.
Emmons is about as bland and uninspiring as a candidate can get. He talks about working on a 2 budgets, both which resulted in a tax increase, and doing a little bit of paving for his two years as a councilor. Says that makes him "uniquely qualified" to be a legislator, is like taking a "first aid class" and thinking you are qualified as a "surgeon". His resume is about as thin as you can get and says he is a DJ now, which I am sure will make him "uniquely qualified" to be a legislator. Our representation from the last legislator in the 15th was lousy, and this guy will be a total disaster!
Walker on the other hand can not keep from misrepresenting himself by his obvious lies. Loreto was purchased by Walker for $67,000, and within 4 weeks he sold it to M&A Holdings of CNY,LLC (A Avery) for $60,000, a loss of $7,000, after he found out he had to remove the asbestos to renovate. He had nothing to do with the renovation of the property, or the creation of any jobs, and took a loss to get out of a project that was totally over his head! Imagine the finical mess he could make if he was ever put on the legislature.

Oswego County IDA 44 W Bridge StOswego NY 13126
M&A Holdings of CNY LLC 130 W Fifth StOswego NY 13126 Atom Avery
Sale Information
Sale Date Price Property Class Sale Type Prior Owner
5/17/2013 $60,000 642 - Health bldg Land & Building Loretto-Oswego Residential
Value Usable Arms Length Deed Book Deed Page
No No 2013 4696

Sale Date Price Property Class Sale Type Prior Owner
5/17/2013 $67,000 642 - Health bldg Land & Building Walker, Lee
Value Usable Arms Length Deed Book Deed Page
No No 2013 5156

It is important that you do not vote for these unqualified candidates! WRITE-IN a person that can do the job, and is in the 15th district.
The time for action is Tuesday, Nov 7th, Election Day...
                                                                                                                            November 5/17







Today's Quote November 4/2017

A recent police study found that you're much more likely to get shot by a fat cop if you run.

Dennis Miller

Column from Assembly Minority Leader Brian M. Kolb (R,C,I,Ref-Canandaigua)

On Tuesday, New Yorkers will head to the polls with the opportunity to decide who will represent them in a number of important elections. But on November 7, choosing between candidates for public office is only part of the power of our electorate.

On the back of your ballots will be three propositions for voters to consider. These propositions allow the public to directly impact policy and are, in a way, the most direct democratic participation we are afforded. This Election Day, please remember to turn the ballot over and be heard on three important issues facing our great state.


It’s important that prior to Election Day, voters educate themselves on the details of each ballot proposal and the significance they carry for New Yorkers. Each proposal is unique and will greatly impact New York and its residents. Ballotpedia has helpful information regarding the three propositions.
· Proposal 1: Constitutional Convention – Every 20 years, New Yorkers vote on whether or not to hold a Constitutional Convention. Holding a Convention would allow elected delegates to consider changes and amendments to the State Constitution. Delegates would be elected in November 2018, and the Convention would begin in April 2019. Proposed changes to the State Constitution would then be voted on by the public.

· Proposal 2: Pension Forfeiture – This measure would allow judges to reduce or remove taxpayer-funded pensions from public officials who have been convicted of a felony related to their public position.

· Proposal 3: Local Land Banks – This proposal would establish a 250-acre land bank for localities in the Adirondack and Catskill parks to use for road repair and construction, infrastructure upgrades and the creation of bike paths.

It’s critical for voters to get information that will help their decision, but it’s also important to be wary of the information that’s being circulated. For example, some have claimed that a blank vote on a ballot proposal is counted as a “YES” vote. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Despite efforts from the Rockefeller Institute and others, some misinformation has spread far and wide. Whatever position one holds regarding the propositions, it is critical each voter has accurate information about what they will be asked to consider on Election Day.

I encourage you to take a moment to review the arguments for and against each measure and make a decision based on the facts. New York is stronger when its people are accurately informed and engaged in our great democratic process.

What do you think? I want to hear from you. Send me your feedback, suggestions and ideas regarding this or any other issue facing New York State. You can always contact my district office at (315) 781-2030, email me at kolbb@nyassembly.gov, find me by searching for Assemblyman Brian Kolb on Facebook, and follow me on Twitter.
                                                                                                                            November 4/17

Brenda Rice
“Three times the first ward elected someone else and they all were duds.
Maybe it is time for Brenda Rice”.
Yes, it is time for Brenda Rice; to go away, and take her foul mouth with her!
                                                                                                                            November 4/17

Why is this happening? Be careful crossing Seneca St Bridge.
Oswego hasn't a clue. It's been happening for sometime now, and continues. All 18 wheel trucks, trailers and other delivery trucks have been traveling to Lake Shore through our small neighborhood streets, knocking down tree branches, jumping curbs running over grass on corners, slowing down traffic in the area, due to trucks having a hard time navigating through the smaller streets tearing up the streets due to the weight of these vehicles. These trucks are also over weight for the Seneca St bridge!!! Be careful! Why is this happening? Because, Google Maps is providing that path. From the Syr area, Google Maps route is coming off Bridge st, turning on E 8th, then onto Seneca St. Why Mayor and council is this happening? What you don't know, you don't know! You need to be aware of the bridge!!! It cannot handle the weight of some of these trucks! Open your eyes and do the job! All the damn committees we have, Tourism etc. doesn't look into these things? Get a clue city hall!
                                                                                                                            November 4/17

Facts about Heidi Allen case
Fact-News reported in 1994 that Richard paid with 4 $1 bills.
Fact-Richard Thibodeau’s statements on April 3 and April 9 say he paid with 4 $1 bills
Fact-Richard passed lie detector test given by OCSD
Fact-Richard denies being with Gary on April 3, 1994
Fact-No one saw Richard and Gary together on April 3, 1994
Fact-change on register read $1.82
Fact-store owner was allowed to deposit the till instead of fingerprinting any bills
Fact-IMPOSSIBLE for the van to have physically moved according to testimony from the neighbor witnesses and the inmates vs the cash register transactions
Fact-Exhibits HHH-ZZZZ were from debris, samples, physical evidence, etc.sent to the FBI lab for testing
Fact-The FBI agent and 2 sheriff deputies testified about reports/findings that did not link to Heidi
Fact-Gary nor Richard were named by Heidi in her CI status to law enforcement
Fact-Gary’s alibi witness who testified under immunity was acquitted of lying about his alibi
Fact-None of the prosecution witnesses came forward immediately upon news of Heidi being missing
Fact-Bobby Wheeler lied during a pre-trial Hearing
Fact-Dodd was not turning over the “entire OCSD case file” as per the pre-trial hearing admission
Fact-Evidence was “found” in the sheriff garage on May 16, 1995
Fact-Even though Heidi’s thumb prints were found on May 16, 1995 on her CI card, Yerdon denied during trial of their existence within the department.
……To name only a few

Logical, educated Conclusion-LE and the DA’s office purposely withheld crucial documents to get a false conviction because Richard was the last known customer (who couldn’t have committed the crime alone) so, therefore, his brother who was disliked by LE was targeted.

BTW…to the anonymous OCSD that was spewing more lies, I’ve seen the court document that says no recording devices were being admitted into evidence so you can take the phone tap on Gary’s and/or Richards phone the day of the disappearance rumor and stick…..challenge me and I WILL post it. Don’t forget that the documents are PUBLIC for anyone to get.

Lisa, Randi, defense team, supporters…Keep fighting for the Truth and Justice. Gary is Innocent in the disappearance of Heidi. Richard is Innocent in the disappearance of Heidi.
                                                                                                                            November 4/17

Senate Republicans Say Trump Ruled Out 'Dreamer' Protections In Spending Bill

                                                                                                                            November 4/17

Republicans Sneak Anti-Abortion Language Into Tax Bill

                                                                                                                            November 4/17

Sweden has 65,000 nuclear shelters. Now in the era of Trump, it wants more

                                                                                                                            November 4/17

Brenda Rice
Brenda Rice is an over inflated legend in her own mind. This individual is quite interesting.
She would sell her own mother out. Beware first ward on November 7th pick anyone but this blowhard clown. Brenda is a chameleon that will not fight for you and your best interest I know that for a fact. Been there done that with her. If you want change vote for it. If you want the same old crap she's your girl.

It doesn't pay to burn bridges Brenda
                                                                                                                            November 4/17







Today's Quote November 3/2017

A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing.
George Bernard Shaw


Mary K Wahrendorf

This is dave White's sister. If she is elected it will be the same as having Dave White on the council.

                                                                                                                            November 3/17

Heidi Allen case
I wish that someone would do an entirely factual story from front to back on how the brothers became suspect and one was convicted and the other acquitted. There is so much available for the public to get the facts about.

Juries get it wrong often and that’s why there have been so many people let go over the past 10 years, and more. Mostly because of false convictions due to shoddy DNA testing but others from misidentification and prosecutors who “coach” their witnesses into saying what they think the jury wants to hear to convict.

Didn’t Dodd say during the Hearing that all documents had two stamps and a green mark? Well, where’s those on Mrs. Granger’s statements? “All documents were handled the same.” I think not. Or did you mean only the documents YOU wanted handled that way. Was Mrs. Granger’s statements one of those documents which you wouldn’t say what it was that you weren’t turning over?

Are most prosecutors ego-maniacs?
                                                                                                                            November 3/17

Brenda Rice....Really
Brenda Rice is Oswego City's version of Howie Hawkins. Runs every couple of years and nobody is going to take her serious. Two minutes of talking to her on the front porch is enough exposure for a couple of years.
Hang it up Brenda...your mouth alone will defeat you.
                                                                                                                            November 3/17

Lets Get To Know The Real NATE EMMONS
Lets get to know the real Nate Emmons...

Since being elected into office as an Alderman NATE EMMONS has done the following...

1. NATE EMMONS has voted YES to RAISE TAXES.. so his flyer "cutting out the fat" must have a different meaning to Nate Emmons

2. NATE EMMONS voted YES to lay off Fireman from The Oswego Fire Department

3. NATE EMMONS voted yes to layoff CSEA Employees



                                                                                                                            November 3/17



Brenda Rice
Three times the first ward elected someone else and they all were duds.
Maybe it is time for Brenda Rice.

                                                                                                                            November 3/17


Xpress Auto Care
Beware aware of the crew over at Xpress Auto Care as they are failing inspections on purpose. I was recently there and the crew are a bunch of young punks who lie and falsify documents. I told the crew I was going to report them to the owner and asked for the owners name but none of them claimed to know the owner (lies). After telling them I was going to report them to their boss they wanted to fight; no worries all the guys there weigh like 98 pounds. The main issue is they told me that my inspection failed do to the aliment of my car and I bought my car from a dealer less than a year ago and the car is like brand new; I was also told by other inspection places that it was obvious that they ripped me off as most don't inspect for aliment. Everyone beware and to the owner, you never called me so this is what you have to deal with now!

                                                                                                                            November 3/17

Harold F C
Harold F C******* of Oswego NY ,Also Known As Frank the Bull is Taking Illegal steroids. .He also needs to be investigated for heroin because he was involved with Adrew Limbardo who is now dead because of heroine ... Frank has been under the radar for a long time . This heroin epidemic needs to be addressed .A drug free America is a key to success.Cleanliness is next to godliness . Thank you for making a safe place so the up and coming generations can live a productive life.
                                                                                                                            November 3/17







Today's Quote November 2/2017

Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder.
Kinky Friedman

Past Witness
As far as Appeal and Dodd's or OCSD's credibility in discovery....Why does Pat Granger's first statement made on April 3, 1994 have a Received by Oswego County Sheriff's Dept. stamp on July 21, 1995? Her second statement was made on July 14, 1995. That was after Gary's trial already started. Is it proper to stamp "received" 15 months after the statement was taken?

**Head slap** This is OCSD who allows their deputies to write reports 2 years after an incident related to Heidi.
                                                                                                                            November 2/17

FDA: Go easy on black licorice this Halloween

                                                                                                                            November 2/17

Can Watertown Learn From Oswego?

                                                                                                                            November 2/17

I would like to know, how gosek gets away with having that JUNK CAR ,in front of his house !!!!!!! It has flat tires, and has blocks of wood under the flats to keep it from rolling. Been there for weeks, OH THATS RIGHT HIS SON IS THE ALDERMAN , just like he drives that white van around town ALWAYS ON THE PHONE waves to the police, nothing done ,and they wave back. ANY ONE ELSE WOULD GET A TICKET FOR EITHER !!!!!!!
                                                                                                                            November 2/17






Today's Quote November 1/2017

Once the herd starts moving in one direction, it's very hard to turn it, even slightly.
Dan Rather




Forth Ward Candidate For City Council

Mary K Wahrendorf

AKA - Kathy Wahrendorf

AKA - Mary White

AKA - Kathy White


Is The Business Partner Of Convicted Sex Offender John Gosek.


License Information

Serial Number: 2205670
License Status: License is Inactive
Credit Group: 3
Filing Date: 12/01/2016
Effective Date:
Expiration Date:

Premises Information

Principal's Name: WAHRENDORF, MARY K


Zone: 2
Address: 114 ONEIDA ST

FULTON, NY 13069
County: OSWEGO






Mary Wahrendorf and her husband David were co owners and operators of the Shaky Patch

bar on Liberty St. in Oswego. The Bar was closed by the state liquor authority and the license revoked when they were caught selling liquor to children as young as 14 years old.

                                                                                                                            November 1/17



Another OFD Screw Up (Correction)
Drive by the West Side fire station and have a look at where the heroes drove their firetruck into the overhead door…………..from the inside!!!!!!!!!
                                                                                                                            November 1/17

Mayor Barlow Appoints Mayor Gosek’s Old Girlfriends Chair of Tourism Committee
How many years did she work for the Chamber of Commerce and never did anything but cut ribbons.

Kell's inner circle promotions
Personnel Assistant? Who does this guy think he is? The Mayor needs to put aside his personal interests with Kells and do his job!!! Oh is that why he is kicking the workers out of the lunch room to make more offices for what???? Sounds pretty fishy. His rental maintenance man seen in the Flexo building when workers were given a directive that the Flexo place was off limits. Why is that? How are these promotions getting through the Personnel Department? The Council? Are these positions in the budget? How many past DPW Commissioners had an Assistant Commissioner and a Personnel Assistant? The spending is out of control at the cost of the tax payers. Mayor Barlow, admit it. You made a huge mistake appointing your buddy to office. Not only is he taking the city for a ride, he is making you look like the fool. Kiss your chances of a second term goodbye if you keep this crook on
the books!!!
                                                                                                                            November 1/17

15th District Voters face Dilemma
in a week, the voters of the 15th District (3rd Ward,5th Ward, and part of the 1st Ward) will have to face the problem of deciding which of the two unqualified candidates should they vote for. Very simple answer, neither! To vote for a person you know can not do the job and will be unable to represent you is not in your best interest and you will have to live with this embarrassment for the next two years.
Write in a name of a person you know can do the job. It is not a waste of your vote, to the contrary, it would be wasting your vote if you vote for Walker or Emmons.
If you don't do a write-in, don't vote for either, and if you do, do not complain about the mess they make in the legislature.
                                                                                                                            November 1/17

Snow Battle On Two Fronts
Jan 25/ 1978


                                                                                                                            November 1/17







Today's Quote October 31/2017

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people.

It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
John Adams

Death to common sense
Look closer at the Sheriffs time line.
4:19 a.m., someone arrived two hours prior to Heidi and turned the register on. Who, why and did they also exit the building. Sheriffs have, Heidi, Mr. S, Richard and Mr. Stitson all on the scene at the same time. Impossible. Their time lines a joke. Their investigation should not have started at the time Heidi turned on the cash register at 6 am, but at 4:19 am, I am certain the owners of the store should be able to explain who accessed the store prior to Heidi, who had a key and why were they there. No ones paying any attention to the fact the store had a visitor that obviously had access to store keys, cash register keys two hours prior to Heidi. The State police just slapped the shit out of the Sheriffs by saying we do not arrest on pure speculation and we work with FBI. SHERIFFS arrest on speculation, they refuse to work with FBI, the dept is a joke, ransacked by corrupt officials. That's reality.
                                                                                                                            October 31/17

Can someone please post name address and or phone number on where to contact to report all the information that has been gathered on Kell's. This information is very disturbing and needs to be investigated. Also he has just promoted the lowest person on the totem pole in his office to a "personal Assistant "(Kerry) at the tune of a 12,000.00 raise because now she is his property manager for all of his rentals., being paid by yes us tax payers. Seriously can't make this shit up, he is using the city as his own employment agency. This guy needs to be stopped!!
                                                                                                                            October 31/17

Oswego Town
Seems there are some washout and culverts flooded, and all dumb, dumb Dave can do is drive around with the engineer and look at them. Oswego Town is fiscally stressed and Kaufless is spending mega bucks on engineering with his best buddy. Oswego Town just increased taxes by 25%and keeps charging the taxpayers..
                                                                                                                            October 31/17

Emmons vs Walker
I have seen several posts about this election. It is my understanding that Mr. Walker owns the drunk bus(s). Knowing that he runs these busses through the neighborhood he wants to represent, dropping off dozens of drunken, yelling and screaming college kids who cause chaos, does not make me think that he would have the concern for his constituents.
                                                                                                                            October 31/17







Today's Quote October 30/2017

I think; therefore I am.
Rene Descartes

Mayor Kells?
This guy is out of control. Anybody with a brain would have to wonder if the Mayor is even aware of what this guy is up to. If he is aware of the stealing, the abuse of personelle, and the backdoor hiring and illegal promotion of unqualified (ever get that GED Chantelle?) hes just as guilty as Kells is. The Mayor shouldn't have to see pictures to make a business decision. If hes planning on a second term he may want to think about getting rid of some exess baggage before it weighs him down. But then again its starting to become clear that the Mayor is only the guy who sits in the chair. Kells is the mayor and Billy boy is his mouthpiece and will look, do and say as hes told to do by Kells and the rest of the nazis.
                                                                                                                            October 30/17


Waterbury responds to civil suit, denies sexual harassment

                                                                                                                            October 30/17

Gary Thibodeau.....The Death Of Common Sense
Still wondering about all the loose ends in this case (easily found) and the real big one is the time lines at the store.

Stinson (not accusing him of any crime) said he was there at 7:38 after a deputy and himself timed his route and he found out his watch was 3 minutes slower than he thought.

Richard and Swenkowski got there a 7:41.

If Stinson got there 3 minutes before Richard and Swenkowski, why didn't he go into the store? Why did he wait 4 minutes to do so. Had to be after 7:42 per OCSD time of kidnapping by Richard and Gary because Stinson said he did NOT see Heidi....how, just how the hell could this ACTUALLY, factually and really have happened like this???

And he said he did not see anyone or any vehicles there, but Swenkowski did , Richard did, they both saw Heidi, but Stinson said he didn't see Heidi. Swenkowski testified that he saw Richard leave the store ALONE. But still Stinson said he saw nothing and then entered the store, and no Heidi.

HOW COULD THIS HAVE HAPPENED???? And was this addressed in the grand jury or the first trial. See people it is impossible for Richard and Gary (who was not seen there, by ANYONE) to commit this crime.

I know what my opinion is, what's yours?
                                                                                                                            October 30/17

Population of the city of oswego, and population of the School District.
1. Last I read, Pop. was at 17,999 ( city )
2. 4300 was under 18 years of age ( does not mean that are all in school )
3. Aprpox. 5200 work
4. Approx. 3800 are retires
5. Approx . Must be ( keep in mind these are approxs ) 4700 are on public asst.

So ,if there is nothing to hide, let the aldermen, super of schools, board of education , mayor, oswego county dept. of social services PRINT OUT THE STATS ! That way, we ,as the people that pay taxes, vote, and of course, look out after retires, and are retires, can see who the phonies are !

If I was the Mayor, I would be giving the worksheets out to the taxpayers !
If I was the Super of the school district, I would be giving the total of student population ! It would also give how many are involved in sports , of course, by grades !

One has to ask themselves, How Come That This Is Not Done ? The answer is somewhat clear, controlling the power game! Ever see a cost worksheet ( break down of income and expenses ) ?

Ask yourself, what has the 2nd ward aldermen, 4 th ward aldermen, 3rd and 5 th ward aldermen done ? And Tony Pauline still gets city, state, and some fed monies, which is in the downtown area of WESTSIDE ! Must of happen by pure luck !
                                                                                                                            October 30/17


Get him
Kells we will catch you.
                                                                                                                            October 30/17



RE: So what's up with this jeep and wagon business? Wouldn't that be considered theft of services? A lot of questions to be answered.

When Kells took a trailer from the citys old equipment and had the DPW fix it up there is nothing wrong with that. When he had it delivered to his house to be used for his Halloween hayride then it became theft of city equipment.

When he took a Jeep from the city impound lot had the mechanics fix it up filled it with gas at the city pumps and then delivered to his house to pull the hay wagon that was theft of services, theft of gasoline and grand theft auto.

The mayor knew and so did the police chief.

                                                                                                                              October 30/17



RE: Kells maintenance man in Flexo?
The only way to stop this crook is to take pictures. People have to follow Kells and gang armed with cameras and catch this crook red handed and make it public!!! Let's see how he like being watched all the time and photographed. It was done to the Fire Department and it needs to be done here. The people of Oswego need to stick together and get rid of the crooks who are robbing us blind! The back door deals going on with Kells is sickening. I can't wait for the day he is taken down. Must be he has a feeling because he is getting all that he can now and getting his people in and sitting pretty with their new cushy jobs THAT THEY DO NOT DESERVE OR HAVE THE EXPERIENCE NOT TO MENTION FOLLOWING THE LAWS AND GUIDLINES FOR THESE POSITIONS! Let's make some noise.
                                                                                                                            October 29/17


Kells and the IDA
Reading the annual report from the IDA State Comptroller and the loans to Oswego Businesses is shocking to know why they gave a million dollar loan to the Oswego Speedway after it was discovered they were sued in Federal Court for not paying migrant workers the minimum wage in a class action suit.

This loan and the IDA board needs to be disbanded the loan should be recalled and an investigation ordered as they had no merit to receive it and they have not created any jobs. Kells also needs to removed from the Board as there is a conflict of interest of using city tax payer dollars to profit private business with free resources.
                                                                                                                            October 27/17

Tom Kells represents everything that people hate about the Oswego good ole boy network. I think people thought Barlow was going to shake things up but looks like they have figured out how to pull the wool over the kid's eyes. Worse yet, but hopefully not the case, Barlow knows exactly what is going on.

It WAS the fire department excesses that people were pissed off about - guaranteed that next up is going to be the whole Kells issue. He got a prime "gravy train/hand out free money" IDA board position, his kid got a police job, he's using his position to accept bribes, has tons of "just above slum" rental properties in Oswego and lives in Scriba so doesn't care what happens to our neighborhoods.

I feel a little bit sad for Barlow and his supporters that the kid was able to be hoodwinked so easily.

Kells will be the downfall of Barlow and then Kells will snake to the next guy that will have someone set up to take a bag of money for him/her.

Hopefully the feds get to Kells soon - hopefully for Barlow to save himself.
                                                                                                                            October 25/17


DPW Purchases
So where is the money coming from? New trucks for Kells and number 2 man. New equipment, a load of new hires(not a job posting to be found), promotions, bonuses(sshhhhhh the promotions and bonuses are a secret). I'm sure the tax payers would like to know as there has been an increase in our city taxes. A new lunch trailer and renting it at $10,000 a year? Is this really needed? Putting HIS people in positions that should go to QUALIFIED employees with seniority. Doesn't the council need to approve any purchase exceeding a certain amount? The mayor won't do a thing about it. Wouldn't want to upset his biggest contributor. This administration is making past crooked administrations look like angels. Love how he tries to make himself look like a good guy and donating to the Buc Boosters. It will come with a price. What is it Tom? Trying to be president of the Boosters next? You have a history of buying your way in.
Just another pimple on the ass of Oswego.

So what's up with this jeep and wagon business? Wouldn't that be considered theft of services? A lot of questions to be answered.
                                                                                                                            October 24/17


The FBI profiler said that the person that abducted Heidi Allen would be someone obsessed with the case and someone that would try and involve them self in the investigation. That fits two people I can think of Michale Boher and Lisa Buske.
                                                                                                                            October 24/17

Sorry OHS Football Team
Are the numbers there to support this program from 6th grade to 12th grade ? Are the numbers there for soccer , girls and boys from 6th grade to 12 th grade ? And of course, let us see the numbers for Baseball and Softball !

Will this warrant Building a “ Sports Complex “ to the tune of more that six million ? Of course, the add ons, the misses, bad soil, bad accounting, bad fund raising, B.S. , Lying ( which is always common in lazy aldermen and woman and school district. members .

I think about at nights with some of the things that are wrong, while, i will bet, that they sleep through the night !

Think about that at every voting cycle !
                                                                                                                            October 24/17


I to hope it's their turn...

                                                                                                                            October 23/17

Shame on you Tommy
Hey, look what I Heart Oswego's own Jerry Maher captured at the Kells 4th Annual Halloween bash! Pictures of the top secret haywagon that was made at the DPW garage on city time with city help and city material. Rumer has it that the Jeep that he took from the garage to pull the wagon with mysteriously showed back up on Friday before any guests could see it on his land after being talked about on here. What happened to the code of ethics? Dose that only apply to the peeons? That's city property being used privately. Dose anyone recognize the iron fence in the third pic? It used to be sitting on pallets behind the DPW garage til yup you guessed it >>TK grabbed it up. From what I've heard moral sucks at the DPW because of all the hairbrained ideas he comes up with and when guys try to speak up for themselves, they get punished, only he doesn't call it that. Anywho, I'm sure that there will be more things come to light in the very near future. Maybe the Mayor will wake up and see this dude for what he really is = trouble and a blackeye on his term.
                                                                                                                            October 23/17

Deadline: Crime with Tamron Hall "The Vanishing Clerk"
I watched. One of the most noteworthy quotes from the show was when Lisa Buske, Heidi's sister, said that one can't form an opinion simply from reading the news. I believe she was referring to the recent revelations however, I'd like to take it back to 1994/1995 when the jurors spoke anonymously after the verdict. They, or only one, commented such as "they made the van move", we didn't believe Gary's alibi because "we thought she was trying to protect her man", "they must of had plastic in the van". Forming a personal opinion about the defense witness/es. Specifically, that Richard's (Teresa) elderly family members testified about his alibi but was having a difficult time remembering a timeline without opining the same for the eyewitness who was much younger that "I don't recall" often when questioned by the Defense. Facts via witness testimony show that it was impossible for the van to have moved the way it did in the time period testified to. Gary's alibi was acquitted of lying but not until after Gary's conviction. There was no evidence via testimony that suggested there was plastic in the van. If that's what the jurors based their verdict on, their own possible theories, they are just as wrong in their decision as the DA is for continuing to punish Gary "The Innocent" Thibodeau. ALL the theories of how Gary and Richard could have committed the crime of kidnapping Heidi have been debunked. She wasn't burned and buried on Gary's property as the inmates testified to as evidenced by no DNA evidence or any link by the FBI. The taking Heidi to MA in the Caddy theory was debunked by proof via Gary's alibis' charges for perjury relating to going to MA being dismissed and no evidence that the rolled rug, or whatever was claimed in the show, having any link to Heidi. No surprise that Lisa B. gave up hope on finding Heidi alive after 10 years when the DA claims that Gary and Richard "brought her to a place never to be found". "We just know they did it but can't tell you how, why or where". That's Justice? For Heidi's or Gary's family? Justice would be following up more stringently on the "boasters" because at the very least 3 cadaver dogs indicated in an area similar to where one of them claimed to have taken Heidi's body and the Fact that Jennifer Wescott failed her lie detector test and then went for another interview with the DA present and was recorded saying what she knows. And, IMPORTANTLY, Richard and Gary both passed lie detector tests. Richard-just 6 days after Heidi disappeared and Gary-a year or so later after the conviction. Why wasn't Gary given one by the Sheriff's before his arrest?
                                                                                                                            October 23/17


Even Juors didn't care
Is this what Lisa Buske is defending a case with no evidence not a drop. A case where the jurors were taking naps and reporters not only witnessed this, they wrote about it, in between naps LISA BUSKE they asked for a case of beer. Your sisters case has been nothing more than a joke. Fight away Lisa til you die, your fighting nothing. You've ALLOWED this along with your family.
                                                                                                                            October 22/17

That's tom kells girlfriend. That no one knows about. winter time she does nothing stands around and let's everyone do her job for her.
                                                                                                                            October 22/17



More Kells shady business
Glorified flower planter can be Foreman with just barely two years experience while DPW workers with 10-15-20 years experience don't even get a chance as it was never posted....Just another Kells appointment from within his circle. Open your eyes people!!!!
                                                                                                                            October 21/17

Lisa Buske
What is it Lisa has done to actually fight for her sister? Not a damn thing. She's done nothing but pamper those who created this mess. While helping hinder an investigation. She's nothing more than a direct road block to the truth to what happened to Heidi. I'll tell you Lisa no one will help you any further. You are the reason no one else will come forward. You support the DA claiming your sisters a druggie and your Aunts a LIAR. Great support for your sister. One person of higher statue said it the best. Lisa you are simply not smart enough to figure out you have been fooled. Keep supporting them. Lisa why not tell the truly good folks of Oswego about your bull shit even with Dateline. Walking off the set when asked if you or Heidi were druggies. But yet support the DA DODD WHO CLAIMS YOUR SISTERS A DAMN DRUGGIE. YOU MAKE NO SENSE. NONE. Eventually even all your lies are going to come out. Then Lisa every one will know exactly who you are. A me,me, me type person. Not once have you ever truly helped your sister in any way. Not once since this entire thing began have you even met any of the witnesses only slammed anyone trying to help Heidi. Karma Lisa will come your way. SO quit asking anyone for help. Most people know your a self centered me, me, me type person that had no real relationship with Heidi. You are a fool, and a out right fake.
                                                                                                                            October 21/17





Re: Kells
Perhaps Mr. Kells should submit to a drug test. Or is this person telling the truth?

He thinks all of this is so funny.

People are starting to open their eyes.

He may be able to hide behind the city officials, but what fun we will have when the outsiders come asking questions. Just what will they find? You Mr. Kells may think you are covering your tracks, but the rotten stench you are leaving behind will lead them to the truth.
                                                                                                                            October 20/17

Why is everybody so surprised that Kells is such a crooked slimy DPW Commissioner? It was abundantly clear that when he paid $5,000, to then candidate Barlow, that this $5,000 was on condition that he, Kells, was to be appointed as the DPW Commissioner. This was cash give after Kells was reported to the State for an illegal contribution, then took back and gave it to Barlow under the table. It should also be noted that Kells' kid was appointed, by the council, to a city job (contract),to mow city property for, now wait for it, that's right, $5,000.
It has also been rumored that Kells knew about the relationship between Barlow and his underage high school girlfriend and would keep it under wraps.
                                                                                                                            October 19/17

Looks like the DPW workers are getting evicted from the garage.
Was that the new portable lunch room being delivered today. Only a rental at the bargin price of $10,000 a year. Didn't realize they out grew the old break room. Nice big trailer for only a handful of guys who actually stay and have their lunch at the garage. Can't pay over time when needed but man o'man, we can spend money on shit we don't need. Hey, how much was that city tax increase this time????
Will the brand new $10,000 a year lunch trailer rental have camera's installed too? Maybe some bugs planted around so you can hear everything? Way to go Tommy boy!!!

Hope everyone makes it out to the Kell's Halloween event this weekend. Take a good look around. Lot's to see. Make sure you go on the hay WAGON ride.....right Tommy? Beep, Beep!!

Just keeps getting better and better.

P.s. Tommy boy has been known to say how he hates and thief and a liar.....
                                                                                                                            October 19/17

Mr. Kells
Is the vehicle that you are driving home, would it be a new truck, 4 WD ,and would it have a plowing unit on it ? And Mr. Kells, are you keeping track of the miles and fuel consumption ? Taxpayers and accounting will want to know !
Mr. Kells, when are you going to move with in the city limits of oswego, ny ? After all , since you are a class act, you will want to show the taxpayers of oswego, ny how much professionalism you bring to the table !

Mr. Kells, is the present mayor of oswego, ny going to seek higher political office, and setting you up to be our next mayor, police chief, fire chief, super of schools, grounds keeper, tax collector , harbourfest whiz, the 4th of july leader ,with of course, mr. broad well at you side ! After all, we the people that vote and care about taxes and dislike lazy people, would love to have a chance of seeing in public, and of course, get your autograph and maybe a picture too !

P.S., did you get your required OSHA 10 hr course and the 30 hour course ? And did the code dept., eng. dept. water dept. and the dpw workers get their OSHA 10 hr course and for some, get their OSHA 30 hr course ? Mr. Kells, the only thing you should be in charge of is temp. workers, in syracuse, ny. and keep in mind, most of them are pretty smart, so you will have you hands full !
                                                                                                                            October 19/17

Kells harassment or just stupid !!
Tommy. im not to happy to see you harassing people.its gonna stop you forget. I have used cocaine with you i have sold you a lot of cocaine . remember now ??yes you do! Im taking my info to the FEDS i will not use oswego PD, there as crooked as you are. Im gonna injoy this tommy, you still owe $ brother. You remember the last party we had! You just started at the DPW,
                                                                                                                            October 18/17

Race track
I see speedway has the road close at city line rd. & Albany did they pay for that and shampine & Albany

This is to the Jackass that thinks he got ripoff at the speedway it said right on the schedule its a 50 paper. Look at the schedule next time.
                                                                                                                            October 18/17

Tom kells is tuning two plows west & two plows east good luck with that tom. Mayors phone is going to ring off the wall at city hall.
                                                                                                                            October 18/17

watch out police, fire dept kells wants to be in charge of you guys to.
                                                                                                                            October 18/17

Water break
Last night there was a water break on Cayuga st and liberty st. all they did was barricade the road. KELLS does not like to pay overtime. but he will spend it like water. If you need something he gives you the OK to get it doesn't matter how much it cost. but don't tell him we need to stay over for a hour no way in hell is that going to happen.
                                                                                                                            October 18/17

Kells is nothing but a jerk off. Why does he take the work truck home. taxpayers paying for that to. he's having a chicken BBQ for the guys because the guys are down. Yea because of you dick head kells. Just remember kells what goes around will come around. JERK.
                                                                                                                            October 18/17

Think the cans bad go to his house you won't believe your eyes.
                                                                                                                            October 18/17




Tom Kells believes he is untouchable.  He is above the law.  You have seen first hand on how he operates Ed.  Don't  play his game....he retaliates.  Pulls this BS with the DPW workers all the time.  File a grievance......you pay the price.  Workers don't even have a  rep to help  as their rep is in his pocket making sure he protects his own ass-sets.  If you are one of "his" people, you have it made.  Just look around.  

There seems to be a lot of activity at a certain SCRIBA residence with CITY equipment and personnel.  That's just the tip of the iceberg.   Phone calls have been made.  Let's see how he handles it when the investigations begin.  Won't be able to hide behind his number 2 man.  Lot's to be found.  


To be continued.....stay tuned!

                                                                                                                              October 17/17


I am not playing games.

Oswego County IDA/ Oswego Corruption

This is who the county taxpayers are paying for, he owns the owns the Speedway with the county IDA. Just one more example of the crooks you are giving your money away to. Torrese was sued in Federal Court for not paying his workers, most who couldn't even speak English. He's filthy, just the way Oz likes them.

The lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court in Miami, seeks to be class-action and claims payroll records weren't properly kept, taxes weren't paid, workers weren't paid minimum wage, and uninsured vehicles were used. More than 1,000 workers could gain more than $1 million in wages and damages, Schell asserts.

Torrese is one of the biggest bean farmers in the county, the lawyer says. County records list John C. Torrese as owner of 11 properties, including at least 270 acres in agricultural or unzoned land. In August 2007, the John C. Torrese Trust bought a ten-bedroom, eight-bathroom Pinecrest mansion for $3.19 million, records show. He didn't return several phone calls seeking comment for this story. In response to an e-mail New Times sent to Quality Kid Produce (which is named in the suit and lists Torrese as president and co-owner) came a message from someone named Susana Marti: "Thank you for your interest, but [we] must decline at this time," it read.  

FELIQUE LOHIER, CHOUPETTE JOSEPH and TELINA LAURENT, individually and on behalf of all other persons similarly situated, Plaintiffs, v. JOHN C. TORRESE, T-N-T FARMS, INC., and QUALITY KID PRODUCE, INC., Defendants. __________________________________/ TELINA LAURAENT, ROMERE FREDERICK, and GLORIA PIERRILIEN, individually and on behalf of all other persons similarly situated Plaintiffs, v. JOHN C. TORRESE, T-N-T FARMS, INC., and QUALITY KID PRODUCE, INC., Defendants. ____________________________

This is a class action lawsuit which includes a claim for minimum wage violations under the Fair Labor Standards Act, 29 U.S.C. §201, et seq ("FLSA") on behalf of the named plaintiffs:


                                                                                                                              October 16/17






Today's Quote October 16/2017

The actions of men are the best interpreters of their thoughts.
James Joyce



Tom Kells .... Harrassment ...... Or Just Plain Stupid?








I repeat,

THE WATER SERVICE AT THAT LOCATION (119 W. THIRD ST.) WAS SHUT OFF OVER A YEAR AGO. If it is your intent to harass keep this in mind. I will sue the City and I will sue you personally. You may be getting a free pass from the Mayor and the Police Chief but here you will get the same treatment as other officials found ripping off the taxpayers.

                                                                                                                            October 16/17


RE: More secrets of the inner workings at the DPW. 
Please everyone, file an anonymous, detailed complaint on everything you see and know. Even if it seems small, report it to the Feds. The EPA also needs contacted.  The Tim Horton site as well. Keep posting all info and get some watch groups started. Also, the Attorney General, NY Comptroller needs top get involved. Report links....http://www.osc.state.ny.us/investigations/index.htm



Email or call DEC.Investigators
Officer Phone Number
ECI Chad Donk (315) 426-7431
ECI Neil Stevens (315) 426-7431
Oswego County - Zone 1 - ECOs
Officer Phone Number
ECO Matthew Dorrett (315) 625-4129
ECO Matthew Foster (315) 405-6576
ECO Mathew Harger (315) 383-1766
ECO Gregory Maneeley (315) 542-4293
ECO David Thomas (315) 236-0307
Cayuga County - Zone 2 - ECOs
Officer Phone Number
ECO Scott Angotti (315) 568-5370
ECO Mark Colesante (315) 567-1835
ECO Scott Sincebaugh (315) 253-8534

                                                                                                                             October 16/17


I do not recommend the State attorney Generals office. Go to the U.S. Attorney instead.

Re: More secrets of the inner workings at the DPW.
A "permit" is needed to dispose of waste. So call the DEC and they will investigate. That "old reservoir" is full of hazardous substances, pollutants, AND contaminants. Contact the DEC and have them come and investigate the site. Let them handle it.

DEC Region 7 Offices
Serving Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Cortland, Madison , Onondaga, Oswego , Tioga and Tompkins counties

Materials Management - Landfills, Household Hazardous Wastes, Solid Waste; 315-426-7419. Pesticides 607-753-3095 ext. 232

Syracuse- Main Office
615 Erie Blvd. West
Syracuse , NY 13204

Environmental Permits - Air Permits, Wetlands Permits, Dock Permits, Dredging and Stream Crossing Permits, SPDES, Solid and Hazardous Waste Permits, Mining Permits, Water Supply Permits, SEQRA. The Cortland sub-office serves the counties of Broome, Cortland, Chenango, Madison, Tompkins and Tioga. 607-753-3095. The Syracuse office serves the counties of Oswego , Cayuga, and Onondaga. 315-426-7438.
                                                                                                                            October 16/17



Today's Quote October 15/2017

But he that dares not grasp the thorn Should never crave the rose.
Anne Bronte

More secrets of the inner workings at the DPW.
We the employees for the city of Oswego DPW. Are instructed to dump our waste from our Vector truck (sewer vacuum) not all storm runoff sometimes sewage is involved. We are instructed to go up to the east side Reservoir behind the mental health facility and dump our thousand gallon tanks on the trucks in the woods. Somebody with the know-how and big enough balls needs to go up there and take a soil sample. I really don't think this activity is legal. But from the corruption and crazy things I have been seen happen around town, I would not know where to start you can't call the police because they have an agreement to immediately call mr. Kells if it's a city issue. I have witnessed that myself at my residence. With the discussion of Sergeant Berger stating mr. Kells has never been issued a badge. then why did one of your young rookie officers override my request to make a report to Oswego PD. And denied me that right. Is there anyone out there that can help.
                                                                                                                            October 15/17


The faces have changed but the city is right back to where it was when Gosuck and Dumbsmoor were running it.

Here's a good laugh.
Corruption at the DPW led by mr. Kells, just another bit of news to our taxpayers I bet you are not aware that Kells has an agreement with scriba we go out there and cut trees. With our tree truck chipper a supervisor his pickup truck and normally one more vehicle to carry guys roughly up to eight guys go on these Journeys to scriba. I've been on 5 of the trips myself, this is been going on since Kells took office. Is it just me or has any other taxpayers seen scriba DPW in the city limits working off the trade agreement of the tree removals. I have never witnessed scriba in our city doing anything. Oswego city DPW has spent a lot of money out in the town of scriba !!
                                                                                                                            October 13/17

Racetrack IDA Corruption
The track is owned by Oswego IDA/Operation Oswego who are running an illegal slush fund, revolving loans to each other. Tom Kells DPW commissioner with zero qualifications is a recent board member. This is the connection to much of the corruption between Oswego and NY State. And Kells orders the OPD to stand down on every complaint.



                                                                                                                            October 11/17

County of Oswego IDA
· Established an unauthorized revolving loan program, using its own funds, to finance a portion of the cost of projects. The IDA had 90 loans outstanding as of May 31, 2014, totaling nearly $9.6 million that were financed by its own funds.
· There is no formal process to compare current and projected jobs at the time of application to the reported number of jobs actually created and retained.
· Auditors found 31 companies that received loans only created half of the jobs they said they would create. http://www.osc.state.ny.us/press/releases/apr15/042815.htm

                                                                                                                            October 11/17



Re: Free Water
Let's see now…
There's a City of Oswego fire hydrant, hooked up with what appears to be a brand new fire hose supplying “FREE WATER” to the Oswego speedway.
Question’s; a) Where did the hose come from? b) Who was responsible for hooking it up? (Who authorized this?)
NOW! There just happen to the “Official Safety Truck” from “Safety Solutions” Parked on an off this past weekend at the west side fire station. (Solves where the city owned fire hose came from.)
But more questions’: Who owns the truck? And is it an Oswego City fireman? Just have to check the “duty roster” and fined out who was working this weekend…
Then fire Oswego DPW Commissioner Tom Kells and whoever hooked up that fire hose to the hydrant.

                                                                                                                            October 10/17



Re: FYI...Oswego Speedway Water Draw Free Water

That's an expensive piece of city owned hardware lying on the ground. It's a wonder that someone didn't run over it? Trucks pulling campers, big rigs, dark at night, or stole it? And if a fire had broke out in the city and the fire dept. needed that valve... been hell to pay.

                                                                                                                            October 10/17

More on OZ Speedway
Just read the news article on the ownership and promoters that are getting million dollar handouts from the Guv Cuomo for this Super Dirt Week event that claims to draw 70,000 tourists to OZ when in fact the facility can only seat 5,000.

As it goes the promoters and speedway owners have out of state business addresses that happen to be income tax free from taxes. So tax payer money is going across state lines and not back in the community.

Kells and the people that are city workers need to go to jail for there actions of double dipping and giving the speedway free handouts at the expense of senior tax payers getting shafted for these increases to subsidize others pockets.

How bad can it get?

So, after reading all the apparently factual info on the water stealing at the speedway, the Board of Education actions, Port Authority being mismanaged, the disappearing soybeans, the most well known area bank not being responsible with tracking missing receipts and financial responsibilities connected to this,, the whole DPW debacle, misuse of funds, resources, etc. The need to run misdeeds of city workers past Mr. Kells' when reporting a traffic infraction and dangerous driving experience to the Police Department... The OPD hand in hand with the DPW, school busses speeding through the city,. The new construction with questionable debris removal, without appropriate permits, safety features in place, hazmat issues, training issues, etc. These posts go on and on. Questionable mayoral campaign donation sources, apartments with prostitution running rampant....

Can anyone tell me...Where do these statements end up? Is it all a joke? Is all this a sick source of a type of entertainment? Or if true.... All just under the proverbial rug? Everything from- unsolved murders to stealing city resources and taxpayers money? If this is all factual, backed by tángible sources, facts, photos, and witnesses, how can these very public and well known incidences go uninvestigated? Why is there no official investigation or powers in place putting a stop to it, arrests, fines, or governmental interference and stops put in place? How bad can one city get before someone, something bigger and more powerful steps in?

                                                                                                                            October 10/17


If you will recall it took the State Police, FBI and US Attorney to get rid of the Gosek Mafia.

This bunch seems determined to out do them.





Today's Quote October 3/2017

Just because something doesn't do what you planned it to do doesn't mean it's useless.
Thomas A. Edison

Person Of Interest VANISHED
Michael Bohrer a person of interest in the disappearance of Heidi Allen has himself dropped off the radar. Bohrer who was arrested in relation to the abduction of another woman in another state testified at the 2014 Thibodeau hearing. While he had been seen since the hearing he seems to have completely vanished in the last 8-10 months. If anyone knows of his whereabouts send a message to this site.

                                                                                                                            October 3/17

Mr. Mayor and Mr. Kells
Is it true Mr . Kells that you watch your workers on GPS, instead of driving around, and surveying the work that has to be done ?
This is about you ,Mr Kells and your lack of construction and people skills. The mountain must be tall at your house, but you are three feet tall in mine !
I hope the new aldermen have more backbone than the out going bobble heads ! I guess siting around sucking coffee, is how they get there pat on the backs !
                                                                                                                            October 3/17


Today's  Quote September 14/2017

I believe that the way people live can be directed a little by architecture.
Tadao Ando

Donations "friends of Billy barlow"

                                                                                                                          September 13/17


Lest we forget Wheeler
What's that I read? At the pre-trial Hearing in 1995 Wheeler testified to not knowing that Gary was a suspect in MA? But...he received the warrant via fax in 1994 and the notes show he was at the brief on April 15, 1994 when Gary was named as prime suspect.

Now, why was nothing done about Wheeler's verifiable, blatant, proven lie under oath?



Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Does anyone think it was suspicious:.. that Jennifer Westcott didn't tell the inv. that she lied until after they told her the phone call was taped?

...that Oakes brought Tonya just to discredit her
...that Oakes said he didn't believe anything JW said but offered her (per JW) immunity
...that Oakes said he didn't believe Tonya but wouldn't give her a poly that she asked for
...that JW was just trying to appease her and get her of the phone. "I won't lie to ya"...JW to Tonya on the phone.
...that Oakes never mentioned that JW kid accidently hit Tonya's phone mumber
...that the whole phone call per OCSD may have been stagged. Yeah JW is going to put herself into a crime
..."I guess I was just confessing I had Heidi Allen in my house"...Jenn Westcott....remember she said she never lived there
...that JW said "I never said anything about them bringing her in a WHITE van...yes people sha said a WHITE van. The inv. then said "no, that isn't what you said".
...and then goes back and tells them that she was told what happened to HA.


The worst cover up since the JFK murder. Just read it, Swenkowski, Richard, Stinson, Bivens is all you need to read to know something fishy happened here and I dare any DA to PROVE this crime happened the way they said it did. IMPOSSIBLE ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE. You guys made a lot of mistakes.
                                                                                                                        August 30/17


December 8, 1994-Pre-trial motions which include request for discovery-the partial transcript page from Exhibit #28 of Oakes’ filing to the Motion to vacate says, “The Court: He doesn’t want to tell you what he’s holding back, Mr. Walsh.”
December 14,1994-Fahey went to inspect discovery material-
Viewed tapes, photos, etc…”a copy of the entire Oswego County Sheriff’s Department report relative to this criminal action”.
Why did this not include the bulk storage material from the search center? Those items were no less a part of “the entire OCSD report” to this criminal action? Had they been made available to Fahey on December 14, the CI index card would have been “found” then instead of May 1995.




                                                                                                                        August 29/17





Today's  Quote August 12/2017

Dreams will get you nowhere, a good kick in the pants will take you a long way.
Baltasar Gracian

It Begins
Garys appeal was granted permission to proceed.

                                                                                                                                  August 12/17

Cabin diggers








Moe says, “There are no cabins, trust me.” There never was.?

Coward…won’t publicly respond to being Wrong!

And, what’s up with taking a small excavator to the site After the ME completed their forensic examination? Look at Lt. Moskal’s affidavit #8.

BTW…Wasn’t Darron a prosecution witness? He built the “cabin”, aka “fort” for a youngster, and he testified that his grandfather, the landlord of 68 Rice Road would not live with his tenant in opposition to what D. Purdy testified to. Darron also testified that he would mow Purdy’s lawn and take care of their dog Because They Were Not At Their Residence. Trust Me…if one was at the Hearing, one would KNOW the testimony.

I believe the good people who have come forward, risking ridicule and naysayers, more than I believe LE who has proven time and time again to be fabricators and twisters of facts. Kudos to all who take that risk. Their information is invaluable to the Big Picture.

Thank you for posting on your site the Facts and Truth about a case that has riveted the community for 20+ years. We want the entire truth and we want Heidi found!!











                                                                                                                                  August 12/17

Old News revelation in Heidi Allen Case
Maybe you or someone in public land would care to discuss the likely reason that Oakes filed a dismissed charge against a woman who claimed to have received Heidi’s bracelet in the mail years later. Interesting enough about that dismissed charge is that Auntie, apparently, swapped Heidi’s name for true person, and maybe twisted some other details? A whole slew of other witnesses’ past, wasn’t filed for the hearing. Was Auntie mad that someone other than she, from the family, spoke up to say something other than “We trust our law enforcement”? Auntie admits after 20+ years that “they kept it a secret” that Heidi was a CI. For 20+ years of lying, what credibility does she have to say that Heidi was in trouble and that’s why her husband got her into being a CI.

What do you think? Am I being illogical or rude for talking about a family member like that?

Sad Really that Heidi should and could have been found if not for people not wanting to take responsibility for their part in her disappearance.
                                                                                                                                August 12/17


Oakes' roadside conference where possible remains of Heidi may have been disposed of
First…didn’t 3 cadaver dogs indicate near the same spot?

Notice at the beginning of the video where John O’Brien is asking questions and Oakes blames him and an investigator of disturbing the area?
Notice the dates the following statements were given to police and the date of this roadside conference:
3 years later and still no apology even if Oakes didn’t know right away, surely he should have at some point soon after the conference. It didn’t occur to him that he publicly, falsely accused the wrong people of disturbing the area? (A little attention to detail may help solve the problem and answer the Question!!) AND why were the disturbers excused? Oh, that’s right, because Todd says there were no cabins back there so there was no reason to believe that Steen told Tonya about disposing of Heidi’s remains there. I get it!!



                                                                                                                                  August 10/17

Reply to death of common sense
Funny you knew about the big person who was present in court. You also knew exactly what was said. Wonder if the Sheriffs or DA are smart enough to figure out who was that was sitting on Garys side. Very few knew this person was in the court room. Very very few knew the exact comments made. You are absolutely correct. I also agree with this person present during the hearing. I do not think no matter what the courts say or do. In the end, the entire Oswego County will be taking a hit. Like one they've never seen before. This person has far more power than the little DAs playing a game. We will see, but I do think you are 100 percent correct. This person was NOT fooled by these idiots in Oswego and they made that very clear. But how you knew, is beyond me. You even quoted them correct. Not very many knew what was ever said. They also stated they could solve this case in two weeks. Seems the Sheriffs cant even after twenty three years. They did not pull the wool over this persons eyes. This person has far more power than even little Sheriff Todd.
                                                                                                                                August 10/17

Reply to Heidi Case
Good question seeing as not only did they pass lie detector tests, they passed pubic hair sample testing, cleared on DNA with all vehicles and on Gary own land. Why was it David Maynes was arrested for trespassing on Gary Thibodeau property at 2 am, he claimed he was snooping to make sure cops did not plant anything. Also why is it they continued this after they removed the judge whom would not let Dodd break the law. Look in to the other cases in the county that went on in 1994/1995 you will find Dodd could not get a conviction in the higher level cases with out a jail house prisoner. The lies Dodd even told about Sharon when Sheriffs officers testified that the Thibodeau's were home the evening of April 3, 1994 and not in Mass as Dodd like to make tall tales that seem to be contradicted by the Sheriff Dept. Why is it Nellis stated that Gary was arrested because he fit Bivens description of being the one dragging Heidi from the store but Todd testified it was Richard dragging Heidi from the store. To Heidi family, all respect is given but until you stop standing with the liars, you will get no further help from anyone in the public, You claim you want people to come forward but when they do you criticize them. You have souly stopped anyone from wanting to help your family. No one will come forward any further after the insane crap going on with this family. Back in 1994 not only did the family attempt to shoot at Richard and Heidi's fathers guns were taken, they then Martha Sturtz says rearmed the Allen family, I quote the uncle if we want to put a bullet in Richards head, we have the right to express that. In reality no you did not, its assault and you all should have been charged, if you succeeded in killing one of the Thibodeau brothers, you'd have been right along side of Gary in prison, but should rightfully have been there. He should never have been there. The Allen family has not been honest and it is sad, seeing as Heidi is still missing, seems they are doing nothing to help find her. They knew then she was a CI and lied to the public. My compassion goes to Heidi and not to her family whom has done a ton of hiding information for what reason? Her being a CI is important it opens doors to what may have happened to her, your family secret is NOT and WILL never be worth the life of Heidi. EVER. I will quote Fredrick Lings and Richard Stepien as they testified, they admitted the Thibodeau's were home the night of April 3, 1994 not in Mass as Dodd tried to claim for grounds to arrest Sharon. Ling said, " On April 3, 1994 around midnight, I jotted down the license plate number of the Cadillac." Well per Dodd's lies, he claims this Cadillac was in Mass. If you can not see the lies Lisa B, you shouldn't be printing any books, or blogs in regard's to your sister. Stitson also called you out on your own lies built and written in your book. Pretty sad, all of these lies are why Heidi has never been found. Dodd calls all claims against his dept. "baloney." Guess the Allen family never noticed another murder case going on at the same time as Gary's. Chavez-Flores case in 1995 in which case again two jail house prisoners were used at the same exact time and I will also quote Lanza, "Its Ridiculous, why can't cases be judged on merits, the Da can not win a case in this county with out jailhouse prisoners." I will quote myself he can not win a case without lying either and I guess the Allen family never noticed any other cases unfolding the same EXACT way. They violated every possible law to gain this conviction and Gary's case was not the only one. During 1995 Dodd had another case tossed, why cause he had two theories. SO- tell us if Gary buried Heidi on his property, like DA suggests, then why is there a theory he fled to Mass? Two theories, ILLEGAL and this case should have been tossed. In the end it will be. This is where the idiot OAKES came up with this new theory he told to citizens as he made his rounds in Oswego during re election. He claimed to citizens that they tossed Heidi's remains over a cliff in MASS. If you believe that shit story that came from DODD, seek mental help Oakes. Two officers already confirmed that was an out right lie, that you continued to spread to the public a few years ago. (which originated from none other than DODD) When real honest people start to stand up and do the job the Sheriffs refuse to. Then this case will explode and hopefully men in real suits will come wipe out the entire legislative branch of Oswego. The old news is making its rounds and this case has become a national disgrace.
                                                                                                                                August 4/17




Richard Thibadeau's Van

In The Possession Of The Oswego County Sheriff's Department.

All of the doors are black and

there is a large black stripe down each side.

Only the front is all white


OCSD investigators took statements from people describing a white van and or a light blue van.

A 10-year-old with 20-20 vision or a visually impaired 110-year-old will tell you this is not a white van.



This is a BLACK AND WHITE van.

ANYONE WHO GAVE A DESCRIPTION (from a view other than head on),




Inside sources say the OCSD has recently conducted yet another search/inspection of Richard Thibadeau's van and again found no DNA or any other evidence.


That is at least twice they have proven there is no connection between Thibadeau's van and the disappearance of Heidi Allen!



Fire department
Does anyone know if our resident fire department THIEF is one of the firefighters being laid off? If not he should be.
Looks like he is trying to impersonate a Fire Chief, maybe he is going to apply for the Chief's job next year.

This is OZ he/she could be the next chief.

Who made a noise

In David Stinson's statement, given on 4-8-1994 @ 3:56 pm, he says: "This all occurred in about 1-2 minutes. I waited a few minutes for the clerk. I remember hearing something in the back room to the left.

This sound reassured me that someone was there and I waited patiently for the clerk."




To the left? By the back door, the one not everyone knew about? The one the "family" used? Look at this picture closely, see the plywood covering up the old back door, to the left. Who was back there?


                                                                                                                                                 September 29/16


If the back room looked anything like what can be seen outside the back door he probably heard rats.




Today's  Quote  September 22/2016

“We were making the future, he said, and hardly any of us troubled to think what future we were making.

And here it is!”

H. G. Wells

I read what you did, and we all know who you are!
I read what you did, and we all know who you are! Donald Dodd, Reuel Todd, Greg Oakes, Mark Moody, Daniel King, and Donald Todd

As a citizen of this county, you all work for me, not each other. This is too inform you that I am calling you out, for the truth !
I have read all of the information you filed. There is no glaring evidence against Gary Thibodeau, because if there was, you would have had to file it. Further witheld evidence
would constitute another Brady Violation. I pondered today what in the world the former jurors were told in Gary's trial by you, Donald Dodd. Your timeline is preposterous. It is not even worth mentioning. Reuel Todd, please tell me what led you to the Thibodeau brothers? I cannot find any supporting documentation that sends the case towards them. A criminal never calls and identifies themselves, as being at the scene of the crime. Who is Borrelli, and why were you going so far as to talk about him being in a photo line up for the clerks at the D&W 4-16-1994, but on 4-14-1994, Borrelli was given "walking papers" yesterday. That would have made it 4-13-1994. On 4-15-94, you say:" Is it time to do a photo line up on Borrelli?" So you gave Borrelli "walking papers", I believe that means you let him go, on 4-13-94, but on 4-15-94 and again on 4-16-94, you were going to have the clerks at the D&W look at his picture? But after 4-16-94, Borrelli is never mentioned again.

On 4-14-94, the lead sheet says, "Danny Barney, has come into view as a probably suspect". On 4-15-94, the lead sheet says: Wheeler interviewed Dan Barney yesterday,
at length. Believes Barney is not a suspect." Where are the notes from the interview with Dan Barney? 4-15-94, it says, "late yesterday, Gary Thibodeau, entered the picture as a possible suspect. This developes from a lead that came in early on." Where is the lead, Moe? I can't find any documentation of a lead about Gary, being a suspect. Who told you Gary had a crush on Heidi? Or that Gary was ever coming on to Heidi? The only documentation about anyone coming onto Heidi, is in her diary, about her boss, Matt Duell, not Gary.

The case against Gary Thibodeau, regarding Heidi Allen's abduction, is all like the above mentioned fairy tales. This person is a suspect, no, we let him go. Hey, this person might have done it, no, we talked to him and he said he didn't do it. So you decided amongst yourselves, to pin it on a person and his brother, that you had no evidence against, only a citizen that was trying to help you.

So I say that the Appellate Division will get the public the answers we have been seeking for 22 years. Dumb of us to ever believe that our District Attorney's Office, or
Sheriff's Department, were honest or truthful. All you were looking for was someone to blame it on, to puff yourselves up, but I'm sure soon, it will be deflated, like yesterday's
birthday balloons. The public doesn't believe you, trust you, or support corrupt officials.

                                                                                                                                           September 22/16

Oakes habitual liar
Oakes you are a bold faced liar anyone with a computer and access to this blog can see how much of a liar you are. In 1994/95 arrest and conviction of Gary Thibodeau. Fahey repeatedly requested the CI file, he was told Allen wasnt an informant. He then requested a dismissal due to with holding of evidence. The old news reports do not support Oakes bull shit lies. Fahey over and over called Dodd, out on this CI status and requested her entire CI file. Again they played the Allen wasnt a CI. http://heidiallenarticles.blogspot.com/?m=1 take the time to study openly on your own. The DA office are hubitual liars and so are the Sheriffs. Request a state police if you need an officer. The lies are sickening. The Sheriff dept. Should be shut down.
                                                                                                                                           September 22/16

In Again Out Again Breckenridge
Roger Breckenridge out of Prison
Identifying and Location Information
As of 09/21/16 DIN (Department Identification Number) 13B0403
Date of Birth 08/11/1968
Race / Ethnicity WHITE
Custody Status RELEASED
Housing / Releasing Facility GOWANDA
Date Received (Original) 02/14/2013
Date Received (Current) 06/03/2016
Admission Type
County of Commitment OSWEGO
Latest Release Date / Type (Released Inmates Only) 08/25/16 PAROLE DIV OF PAROLE

Crimes of Conviction
If all 4 crime fields contain data, there may be additional crimes not shown here. In this case, the crimes shown here are those with the longest sentences.
As of 09/21/16 Crime Class

Sentence Terms and Release Dates
Under certain circumstances, an inmate may be released prior to serving his or her minimum term and before the earliest release date shown for the inmate.
As of 09/21/16 Aggregate Minimum Sentence 0001 Years, 00 Months, 00 Days
Aggregate Maximum Sentence 0004 Years, 00 Months, 00 Days
Earliest Release Date
Earliest Release Type
Parole Hearing Date 06/2016
Parole Eligibility Date 10/24/2013
Conditional Release Date NONE
Maximum Expiration Date 11/02/2016
Maximum Expiration Date for Parole Supervision
Post Release Supervision Maximum Expiration Date
Parole Board Discharge Date

                                                                                                                                                 September 22/16


Today's  Quote  September 19-20/2016

“Whether one eats a cat or not is a personal choice, and I don't want to sway anyone one way or another.

But if you do, there is one obvious cooking tip: Always remember to remove the bell from the cat's collar before cooking.”
Mike Royko


Gary Thibodeau...The death of common sense
Are the prosecution witnesses really witnesses as to what they saw or are they just a link to a prosecution procedure that convicted an innocent man.

Witnesses provide information to help the prosecutor convince a jury that a person is guilty as charged.

- Dave Stinson: was there from 7:41 - 7:45, waved down a deputy but did not tell him that he saw a kidnapping.
- Richard was there and left at 7:42 and was seen by Stinson (at least he had to be) but not seen kidnapping HA.
- Stinson walked in after 7:42 and no Heidi. Now how could Richard have done this in one minute, with Stinson being there but did not see anything. He also never mentioned that he saw anyone let alone Gary.
- Mr. Swenkowski said he watched Richard leave the store and then left. He was there at 7:41 also.
- Swenkowski also saod he saw one person.
- Two people there at the time of the crime and saw nothing.
- Bivens said he saw two husky men and a women but NO TIME WAS MENTIONED IN THE DA's STATEMENT OF FACTS.
- So this makes a question of when Bivens was there. Had to be after and close to 7:42 according to the OCSD as that is when Richard bought cigs and left.
- How could Bivens see the crime and Swenkowski and Stinson didn't although they had to be there at the same time because Stinson walked in at 7:41 and no Heidi.
- Bivens stated that he did not remember telling a deputy later that he had driven by at 8-8:30. He saw the crime, then Stinson has to be mistaken about HA not being in the store. Which could happen but he flagged down Deputy Curtis and he also checked for Heidi...not found.
- Stinson said he saw two husky men with a girl in the parking lot. He said there wasn't anyone or cars in the lot.
Wasn't Stinson and Swenkowski there per their statements. Swenkowski also said the deputies tried to convince him that his time was off but he stood his ground on the time he gave.
- I personally don't believe Bivens was even there..(just my opinion). His time is way off and no time was recorded when he first gave his statement according to the DA's Facts...no time given with his statement. Why not?
- Then we have Gary going to a MA prison and snitches give stories that we now know are not true.
- Bottom line: two witnesses there at the time of the crime but did not see Richard taking Heidi. Bivens saying he saw two husky men taking her (but no time was given by him) but Swenkowski and Stinson were there and did
not see anything.
To the DA involved in this. You sir have NO WITNESSES AT ALL! Maybe a story teller but if at least you should have had three witnesses. Bivens could not have seen a crime between 8-8:30 because the OCSD was there at that time.

I submit to you that you set up a frame of Richard and Gary Thibodeau (and a bad one that is full of holes) got bad info from snitches who I think lied and their statement proves it.

So I am going to ask in this paper right now to Donald Dodd to please answer my question: How did three people there at the time of the crime and two didn't see anything and one who didn't even know or did not want to tell what time he was there, which had to be around 7:41-7:42 did see the crime?

If I were you, I would be afraid, very afraid of a federal Investigation. If no investigation happens if Gary wins his appeal, call your state representative, senator and anyone else that would help.

                                                                                                                                           September 19-20/16



Buske Book
The book is largely based on secondhand information from the Sheriff’s Department, the District Attorney’s office and family members. The Sheriffs lied, the D.A. lied and the family lied so that basically makes the book fiction.
                                                                                                                                           September 18/16



In order to have cellmates they would have to be convicted of something bigger than a misdemeanor.

The Heidi controversy
I was under the direct impression. Heidi switched her schedule with Sally Brooks. Who was suppose to be working at the Fish on in port Ontario. Either way. There are conflicting stories from Heidi family and the DA office. If she was not scheduled the only ones who would be aware of this switch. Are her family, Brett and DUELLS, in which case Ms. Duell file seems to have been tampered with. Very convenient. No one else would ever have known. Unless Heidi told someone. I very much likely doubt that was her topic of discussion.
                                                                                                                                           September 18/16

Re: Gary Thibodeau and the Other 10,000 a Year Wrongfully Convicted in America


                                                                                                                                                 September 18/16

Re: Whos Lying
We know the Family lied, The OCSD lied and the DA lied.
Since the book is based on information which mostly came from these three sources then the answer to the question is everyone.
                                                                                                                                           September 18/16

It's common sense

Why would Donald Dodd or Todd know more. Hmmm, maybe because they supposedly investigated and prosecuted this case.

No matter what you post. The fact is. They should have known. Both her sister and their dept. All have different times,

ones clearly lying. I'll bet it is not Lisa Buske, but the DA office that was said in 1994 to be out of touch with the public

and their mistakes cost human lives. They were also in trouble back then for many different reasons. From lying, to

prosecutorial misconduct. If you read the old news. You'd be well aware of their tricks. I highly doubt her sister is bull

shitting anyone in her book. But I do not doubt that the DA office did a ton. Many people do not agree with your

questions as to how could Dodd or Todd know. Well in order to prosecute this case you'd think they should have.

Ridiculous remarks.
                                                                                                                                           September 18/16



Heidi often offered to work on the holidays.
Regarding Easter Sunday, another employee Sally Brooks, and Heidi, were willing to work; initially Ms. Brooks
was scheduled to open, but she had another job that needed her that morning. Therefore, Heidi agreed to open
the store that morning.



The day started like Easter Sunday did in other small American towns. Heidi arrived at work early, anticipating
the time she would spend with family and friends later in the afternoon. She volunteered to cover the morning shift
so a coworker could spend the holiday with her children, even though it meant she would be the only one working at the store.

                                                                                                                                           September 16/16

If She was working for someone else how were Gary and Richard supposed to know this?????

Did Deputy Van Patten drop her work schedule in the parking lot?????


More questions
Why was the first register tape transaction 4:06?
Why does the book say Heidi started work at 5am?
Why does testimony show Heidi started work at 6am?
Why does testimony show Heidi was on the schedule to work that Sunday?
Why is a “story” that another person was originally scheduled but Heidi took over instead?
Why does testimony show Brett left at 6:35am that Easter morning but the book says around 7:15am?
The inmates statements were taken mid-July.
Why did OCSD get the transaction tape from April 2, 1994 on August 11?
Why was Mrs. Duell’s file tampered with on August 12?
Why did Bivens testify at Grand Jury that he was in the D&W parking lot and the only car there was Heidi’s, his first

statement says he went by the D&W between 8-8:30 but his testimony was leaving Oswego at 7:30am, and his

testimony was about witnessing a physical altercation?
How could Richard and/or Gary have possibly gone to the D&W the morning of April3, 1994, taken Heidi to near Gary’s “to talk to her” brought her back to the store before anyone noticed her gone, made a purchase and then kidnapped her with the time between ALL the customers that were there the morning of April 3, 1994?

Final answer-People lied to help get a quick conviction, in hopes of finding Heidi or “getting their man” to placate the community after Mr. Benningfield told the searchers that the kidnapper could be standing there next to them.

Lisa-you did the research years ago. You know part of the Truth….that Gary and Richard are innocent. Do what’s right. You have plenty of support. Stand up to your family and the lying people you have, unjustly, high regards for.
                                                                                                                                           September 16/16

Here is a direct link to the comments Murtagh has made online. The top comment reads.
FBI on case has been on it for years they feel they have the right guy in jail
Posted on Key Heidi Allen witness texts pal: I lied to police about what I know
10/24/2014 10:32 AM
Which is an out right lie. As we are all aware FBI Points to Bohrer. In 1994 they testified then that there was no link between the Thibodeaus and Heidi Allen.
Murtagh also can not deny it was him. Several times. He makes it very clear. It is him.
Please ask john on this he knows who I am ( Rich Murtaugh )
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/12/2014 8:28 PM
He openly admits twice of removing a van from Valley Road in Fernwood. But no ones paying attention.
                                                                                                                                           September 15/16

Murtagh Confirmed
Murtagh confirmed no caddy in his posts online. So where Oakes got that from is beyond me. Murtagh admits and so did Breckenridge of picking up a van at Gary's. But no idea of a caddy.
I believe he said I towed a van from there not a caddie .. Jmo though
Posted on Oswego County DA: James Steen is pathological liar, but not Heidi Allen's killer
10/22/2014 8:33 AM
Don't no nothing bout caddy
Posted on Oswego County DA: James Steen is pathological liar, but not Heidi Allen's killer
10/22/2014 2:55 AM -Richard Murtagh. So if Oakes wants to use a hearsay witness. He should probley listen to the tower, that was there. No caddy. Sorry Oakes. You did lie in your filing. Little or big, it's a lie. You were giving some impression that the Caddy Dodd brought up was disposed of as well. It is not the truth.
                                                                                                                                           September 15/16

Who's lying game!

Time to compare some facts, between the book, "Where's Heidi", written by Lisa Buske, sister of Heidi, and DA Greg Oakes, Statement of Facts, filed October of 2015.

STATEMENT OF FACTS, page 1, SAYS: On Easter morning, April 3, 1994, Mr. Law arose at 5:45 am at Heidi's residence. He and Heidi left the residence at ab out 5:50am, and Mr. Law followed Heidi to the D&W Convenience Store. Heidi drove her maroon 1984 Pontiac Sunbird Station Wagon, and Mr. Law drove his 1987 Ford Bronco. They arrived at the store at 5:55 am.

Lisa Buske's Book says: Chapter 3 "A Time to weep" , Paragraph 3, page 35: As my parents settled into their swivel chairs, Ed sat on the couch while I snuggled into my favorite childhood chair. We heard Brett's black Dodge Cougar pull into the driveway then Heidi's feet skipping through the kitchen.

Chapter 1 Page 26: At 5 am, on April 3, 1994, Heidi opened up the D&W Convenience Store, located at the intersection of State Route 104 and State Route 104B, and her boyfriend Brett came along to keep her company until the store got busy. Brett often accompanied her on those early mornings.

STATEMENT OF FACTS page 1, last paragraph, last sentence, SAYS: Mr. Law left at about 6:35 that morning.

Lisa Buske's Book page 26, last sentence, says: Brett left the store around 7:15 am

Who's wrong? Who's telling a story? What was Brett driving, a Cougar, or a Bronco? Hey Oakes, did you ever check your "facts"? These facts, are very important, maybe you don't know which is true, who's playing the liar game?
                                                                                                                                           September 15/16


RE: Lies more lies Oakes
Oakes is using classic inadmissible hearsay and uncorroborated rumor to bolster LE’s theory of how Richard and Gary were involved?

Did Mr. Neadle testify? Did Mr. Neadle hear Gary say what Mr. Maynes claimed?

Wow, would have expected more from a top LE official. You studied this case for how long? Shame on you for believing/going along with the sham.
Love all the documents you provided in your Statement of Facts, Affirmations, and Exhibits. Can you publicize more? Please!!
                                                                                                                                           September 12/16


Lies, lies, lies
1. Gary "confessed" to 2 inmates.
2. Illegal search of Gary's property that yielded evidence of Heidi.
3. Phone wire taps.
4. Human bones in furnace.
5. Remains in rolled rug of blue van.

These lies are so easily exposed from the documents made public in DA Oaks' filing it's borderline comical that some people still believe them.

Truth, truth, truth

1a. news article 1995-Dodd says inmates did not say Gary admitted involvement. This is corroborated by the inmates' statements, trial testimony, and by more recent interview with a news reporter.
2a. Fahey tells Judge in pre-trial Hearing there were 2 searches of Gary's property. No pre-trial Hearing was held due to illegal evidence gathered and testimony reflected details of items seized and/or sent to FBI lab. Both searches occurred while Gary was incarcerated. First search on or about June 22, 23 when furnace was seized. Second was on or about July 24 when property was searched and 5 cadaver dogs brought to site with no alerts of human remains. There is indication from Oaks filing that the July 24 search was by warrant. NOTE: blue van was on property for all days of searching and evidence gathered from that van was also testified to.
3a. Phone records were subpoenaed for the MA witnesses. These witnesses were incorrect about Gary and Sharon being in MA on April 3, 4, 5 with a broken down Caddy because deputies positively viewed the Caddy at Gary's property during that time frame.
4a. Testimony shows that no human remains were found from forensic testing and bone fragments were more consistent with animal.
5a. Evidence first gathered from Richard's van on April 9, 1994 which showed no evidence of Heidi "ever" being in that van. Evidence showed that van was seen at a car wash after April 9. Piece of rug that was missing since the first search was found on Richards property. Property receipt given to Thibodeau's, forensically tested to reveal canine DNA. Witness statement about Richard and Gary seen disposing of a rug in the woods with Heidi's remains was proven false by evidence that Richard was working at the time and no physical evidence that Heidi was there (law enforcement physically went to location). Testimony shows that evidence was taken from the blue van during the search on or about June 22 that did not link to Heidi. Testimony from recent Hearing shows that after August 1994 when the blue van was junked, there was no evidence of Heidi in a rolled rug that was in the van.

Questions that should be answered:
Why is there a 40 minute gap between Brett's testimony of leaving the D&W and the time the book says?
Why did law enforcement and family say Heidi wasn't a CI when a Sergeant recognized her as a CI?
Why wasn't the bulk storage Heidi file boxes made available to Defense?
Why weren't the fingerprints from the index card used in conjunction with the notebook fingerprints?
How did Mike have a fax statement of Bivens with the Oswego County DWI unit phone number?
Why was the first time on the register transaction record 4:06?
Why did Brett testify in Gary's trial that Heidi wasn't afraid of anyone in particular but in Richard's he mentions Matt Duell?
Why does Dodd affirm during a pre-trial Hearing that he was withholding information and wouldn't say what he was withholding if he was going to make "the entire OCSD file" available to Defense?
Why wasn't the fact that Sharon and Richard were acquitted of their charges relevant to Gary's Appeal in 1999?
Why wasn't Wheeler reprimanded for lying during a pre-trial Hearing?
Why isn't Pietrowski being held accountable for missing texts?
Why does Todd keep lying to the public?
Why doesn't Oaks do what's right in the miscarriage of Justice?
How could Heidi's family stand behind law enforcement after all that has been made public?
Why was Jennifer the only recently named given a polygraph?
Why is law enforcement covering for convicted criminals when 3 dogs indicate in an area related to the boasting of several criminals?
Why was an excavator brought to the cabin site without the medical examiner present?
When will the Appellate Division begin hearing oral arguements?
Why was it not relevant to Gary's jurors that several witnesses admitted during trial to misconduct by law enforcement in relation to their written statements?
When will the insanity of "Justice was served" end?
Who will be the first to "tell the whole truth and nothing but the Truth"?
Who will man-up and answer - WHERE'S HEIDI?

Compare the theory of Gary and Richard being involved in the disappearance of Heidi and what is known as Fact and compare that to the recent revelations.....#FreeGary.
                                                                                                                                           September 11/16

Lies more lies Oakes
This is how bad the DA office adds to words from Witnesses. Read #179. Bold faced lie. Oakes directs you to exhibit 12, as proof. He says that Roger towed a van and a CADILLAC off Gary's property. Exhibit 12 from Mr. Needles. Says no such thing. He only says that Roger and David Maynes towed a van off Gary's property and Gary was passed. David was bragging about getting arrested for trespassing on Gary's property. Well, if the old junk van sat on Gary's property for over ten years. And it did not run, move, and was never owned by Gary. But the DA wants to give the picture this van could have been used and David and Roger disposed of it. Please, explain why Gary would be pissed for them disposing of what Oakes would like to believe was evidence, or the possible van used. Give me a break, I'm certain if it was, he would have been relieved they got rid of the evidence. Oakes, you sir, are the dumbest DA in this country. You also claim that Kidnapping/murder/disposing of a van across the country lines has a five year statue of limitations. Murder DA jokes has no limitations nor does the evidence in its case. Disposing of evidence with possibly a murdered teen, disposed of in Canada, has no statue of limitations. You sir, must truly think the citizens of Oswego are morons. See attached comments, exhibit 12 and Jokes statue of limitations of five years, to help protect a convicted Murderer Steen. I do not know which ones more psychotic. Ocsd, DA office, or these suspects.

                                                                                                                      September 11/16


To Oakes
It can't be simple. Either way. You do not think outside of the box, let alone inside of it. Richard or as your exhibit 12 mr. Needles calls him Dicki Murtagh actually plastered across the internet one night, that he and a employee did haul a van out of Fernwood, off valley road at a red house. Now this red house was very Good friends to Michael Bohrer. It couldn't be Oakes that they covered their ass by moving a van off Gary's property. So they could move this second van on Valley Road. And say it was the van they moved off Gary's. Oakes you can not possibly be that stupid. It's common sense. In which case you lack a shit load, I believe you should track down Mr dicki and request he explain the white van they removed off Valley Road, in Fernwood, for Roger Breckenridge. Around the time of Heidi. If you need a copy of those messages. They can easily be supplied. You also cannot claim it wasn't Murtagh who posted them. A reporter called him out online confirming it was indeed Richard Murtagh.
Omg please no mistake we (3 of us) picked up two vans at gt house ... Me roger & a 3rd person picked up a dift van in fern wood I can't tell you where it was but I'm sure I can drive right to there like I did last week going to Gary's house ( that I had only been to twice before in the 90's
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:25 PM
It was a red house is all we can remember
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:17 PM
I'm sorry I don't I'd just be guessing but one of my helpers just asked me if I remember going to fern wood to get a white van at 1st didn't remember but after talking a bit I do now
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:08 PM
No in fern wood ( I think that's how you spell it
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:05 PM
Omg I don't know I just remember him coming to me wanting me to pick one up for him .. Never gave it much thought till tonight talking it over with my staff
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 10:55 PM
You all ready for this one ????? I do remember going with RB to fern wood to pick up a white van that he had to junk back around same time of the ha deal
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 10:52 PM
Copied right from Syracuse.com, I think you need to start using the laws set in place that were meant to help victims. Not protect murderers.
I'd also explain to Dickie, those involved. Do not get the reward money.
Is there still a cash award up & if so how much is it .. What you got to do to receive it ty
Posted on Judge in Heidi Allen case reverses decision, will allow DA to respond to wrongful conviction claim
9/19/2014 5:48 PM
Pretty sick Murtagh plastered that across the internet. Then requests the reward money. What a great guy. With zero conscience.

                                                                                                                                           September 11/16

Mrs. Duell testified about the register tape, items purchased and time...??
It strikes me as odd that "The time had to be entered into the memory of the cash register. (Tr. 1488)."

Could it be possible that the register tape was...manipulated when the deputy went back on August 11, 1994 to get the register tape from April 2, 1994? Mrs. Duell's OCSD file was tampered with on August 12, 1994.

RE: Questions to be answered
Deputy Curtis testified in the original trial that the money from the register was deposited in the bank. (DA's Statement of Facts does not state this.)

-Sergeant Lortie specifically calls Heidi a "confidential informant" and recognizes her name from working with the ACT team.
It appears his involvement with the case after this report became limited?

-Family, LE and Dodd's denial that Heidi was a "CI".

-Neither VanPatten nor Mrs. Duell notify Heidi or the family of the information dropped in public.? (Thinking they may have considering Brett would stay at Heidi's work until customer traffic picked up.)

-The informants card, photo, etc was "lost" from the time of the Heidi Center move until it was "found" in bulk storage within OCSD on May 16, 1995.

-Pre-trial Hearing Judge's acknowledgment that Dodd was not going to say what he was holding back as far as discovery.

-No mention whatsoever from either Defense or Prosecution during Gary's trial that Heidi may have been a confidential informant. Dodd didn't carry the card, photo, etc...to the original trial? There were 2 prints on the card taken to the Heidi Center right after the disappearance but LE used notebook prints instead? One would think the prints taken in a controlled manner would be more relevant?

-Mrs. Burr recently signs a statement about Heidi's involvement with LE in an informant capacity up to a short time before her disappearance. Brett's recent dialogue with Oakes about Heidi being afraid of a "coke-head" that lived near the D&W.

**"Good arrest, good conviction"....PPPfffttt**

                                                                                                                                            September 9/16

Lorti Report

“Writer and VanPatten returned to the store and were informed that Inv. Scruton could not locate C.I. file for Allen. VanPatten was Allens contact for ACT Team so writer asked VanPatten if he turned the file over to Inv. Scruton. He did not recall Allen as a C.I. in 1991 until writer reminded him. VanPatten then called the office and had someone check his mailbox. The file was located and relayed to the crime scene.”
Sgt. Lortie’s report 4/27/94

When you see the date of this report 4/27/94 you have to wonder if it was the original or a revised report. Otherwise why would it take 23 days to get it done.

I think everyone knows cops will not rat out other cops but honest cops will not take a hit for crooked ones either. If you ask an honest one to give a statement or testify they will often tell you the facts as they happened. They will not volunteer anything someone in authority has to ask. In many cases those in authority know or suspect the answers they will get so they do not ask the questions, i.e. Watergate and Serpico.

At any rate that just may be what is happening in the paragraph above. After 23 days Sgt. Lortie has had time to think over what has been going on.


VanPatten somehow manages to lose Allen’s picture ID card indicating she was an informant, and he does it in the parking lot where she works.


Three years after working directly with Allen as a Confidential Informant he tells Sgt. Lortie he does not remember her. Then in the next breath VanPatten knows exactly where to find Allen’s missing C.I. file.

At that point someone should have been asking VanPatten to account for his whereabouts on the morning of April 3/1994.


re Timleine
According to testimony from Brett Law, he left the store at 6:35am BUT according to the book “Where’s Heidi” page 27, Brett left at 7:15am. Which is it? It makes a VERY big difference. 40 minute difference. The difference between the inmates being truthful or not.
According to the timeline, there were no customers between 7:20am and 7:38am. That would leave 18 minutes for the “confession” to be true.

It takes about 16 minutes one way from the D&W to Gary’s house.

                                                                                                                                            September 8/16

Questions That Should Be Answered!

Sunday, April 3 1994 @ 2:00 AM was the beginning of daylight savings time.

Was every witness interviewed asked if they were referencing their recollection of time based on standard time or had they set their clocks ahead and based their statements on savings time????

“The first entry on the tape was 4:06 when the cash register was turned on.”
“When Heidi arrived at work she set the time on the cash register”
“The detail tape then showed three zeros and then gave the correct time of 5:55 am.”
Therefore Heidi “started her drawer at five minutes to 6:00 am.”

If Heidi was setting the time on the register because of daylight savings time Then the register should have shown the time as 4:55 when it was turned on.

Why was it at 4:06? AM? PM?
Did the register keep the correct time?

“6:16 am no sale entry on detail tape (Tr. 1515)”
Nine minutes before her boyfriend Bret Law left the store
someone hits the no sale button presumably to open the cash drawer. Did anyone balance the money in the drawer with the sales listed on the tape? Was all accounted for? If the answer is yes then what was the reason for the no sale entry?

At 5:45 Bret and Heidi wake up.
At 5:50 the two get in a car and drive to the store.

Are we talking about a couple of average teenagers or is this Wonder Woman and Superman?
Come on, who do you know that wakes up from a sound sleep, gets dressed, brushes their hair, maybe teeth and puts on makeup and is out the door in five minutes?

Scientifically impossible
If you actually looked at the timeline.
At 7:41 stitson arrives, at 7:41 a man cashes out he buys one pack of smokes and two newspapers. At 7:41 Stitson describes the store clerk missing. At 7:42 Richard shows up buys smokes. In the mean time. The 7:41 customer packs his smokes in his car, watches Richard enter and exit the store. Mean while stitson in the store waiting on the clerk, as Richard passes him, cashes out and is never seen by Stitson. As Richard cash out time was 7:42. So the kidnapping didn't take place from 7:41 -7:42 it took place between 7:43/7:44. At 7:45 a cop was on the scene and at 7:45 a van is seen in the town of Mexico ten miles away. By science you'd have to be traveling over 150 mph to make it in two minutes to where the van was spotted in Mexico. The time line is scientifically impossible. How does Heidi, the newspaper customer,Stitson and thibodeau all appear on the scene together. No one saw Gary or Heidi being taken. How do you travel 150 mph, on snowy roads?
                                                                                                                                            September 7/16

Here's another exaggerated example of OCSD, AND DODD.
SOMETIME between 7:30 / 7:45 a.m. umm not. Richard never cashed out until 7:42 a.m. the van was seen three minutes later at 7:45 a.m. we know she had cashed Richard out at 7:42 a.m. So between 7:43/7:45 is the only time that van could have been spotted in Mexico. Two minutes. Use a speed converter online you are up over one hundred and fifty mph, they'd have been traveling to be in Mexico at 7:45 a.m. Dodd did nothing but cross witnesses with other witnesses and confuse everyone with so many times, dates and so many witnesses. He messed up. Four people would have been on the scene. Not just Richard or Stitson. But the man whom bought the two newspapers clearly says he sat in his car for a minute and watched Richard exit the store. So that would have taken place after 7:42 a.m. we can determine these times due to the cash register receipt and the evidence Dodd entered in court on his time line of events. Which none of it adds up. There was no 7:30 a.m.to 7:45 a.m. Richard had not cashed out yet. So if the van was seen between these times. It clearly wasn't Richards van.
                                                                                                                                            September 7/16

Bobby Wheeler

April 14, 1994-Bobby interviews Dan Barney "at length" but doesn't take notes or record the interview.?
April 14, 1994-Gary becomes "prime suspect" in briefing which Bobby attended.
May 19, 1994-Bobby receives fax from MA police about Gary's warrant.
May 25, 1994-Gary arrested on the warrant.
Late July 1994-Bobby and Herb interview both inmates.

April 18, 1995-Bobby testifies at a pre-trial (Huntley) hearing that he didn't know Gary was a suspect before his warrant arrest.
May 1, 1995-Fahey files pre-trial Motion, in part, to request sanctions against Bobby for lying during the pre-trial Hearing (Huntley Hearing).
                                                                                                                                            September 7/16

Re:Gary Thibodeau
Whoever you are supporting Gary Thibodeau and ripping apart the filing from the DA, outstanding. Some things you posted. I missed. Keep it up. They deserve any humiliation that comes their way. If the community cared about their environment and the sick things the DA and Officers in that county have done. They'd have a better community and safer community for themselves and their families. Instead the majority doesn't stop to smell the roses. If they did. They'd realise they do not smell so grand after all. It takes a big person to not only help, but to spend time paying attention and caring about others. Many have helped. Many still are. I can not wait to see these aholes from Oswego face the lies they've dished out for years. I can only imagine how many other cases they have botched to get a conviction. Dodd was told then you have zero evidence. He will be told again, in supreme. How awful a person they all are for incarceration of an innocent man. Dodd deserves prision, Oakes to be removed from office, sheriff Todd deserves to be a greeter at wal Mart. Petrowski deserves a set of cuffs. Wheeler prison, along with any idiot officer that helped go along with the bull shit in 1994/1995. I pray that they all have repercussions they can not stop. They have put many people through abuse of power. That's exactly what they used to get any convictions through that made zero sense. Gary deserves more than just his freedom. Hopefully with good citizens like you Gary will gain just that.
                                                                                                                                              September 3-4/16

Gary Thibodeau

What is wrong with this timeline found at the end of Oakes’ Statement of Facts filed during the Hearing?

No other customers at the D&W between 6:35am that Brett testified to and a customer, Mr. Wiltse at 7:38am? Why do notes from the Exhibits show there WERE other customers that made purchases between those times?

If Heidi was scheduled from 6am to 3pm, why is 4:06am first reported on the register tape if Heidi didn’t arrive until 4:55am(excluding the hour of DST)?

This timeline Can Not be accurate but was presented at Gary’s trial.


                                                                                                                                                   September 2/16







Today's  Quote  September 1/2016

 “Too much agreement kills a chat.”
Eldridge Cleaver

Oakes and Dodd, including Todd
They are not dealing with a small town attorney. Lisa Peebles is a powerful person. If anything happened to Gary, it does not mean any of this is going to stop. Gary asked Lisa if something did happen to finish this case. To clear his name and to bring Heidi family the truth. So no matter what they do. This is not going away. Gary's case will hit supreme court and national news. It's far from done. It has only just begun. Oakes is simply a coward. He questions the integrity of the sheriff dept and the investigator but stands by the fraudulent case. Then you got Todd who says he had very little to do with this case back then but stands by a case he seems to have had very little to do with. But a whole lotta say on what's factual or untrue. Wouldn't be because his brother helped Dodd prosecute this case. Couldn't be to much pride, based on nothing but lies. Pathetic. Supreme court on Gary's last case. They made it very clear. That just the diary wasn't enough to over turn the conviction. Many cases have been over turned for far less and many have had probes in to the cases and activing investigators, and DA office. Gary will go home. It's just a matter of time.
                                                                                                                                                   September 1/16


Today's  Quote  August 31/2016

“If you don't think too good, don't think too much”
Ted Williams

I hope Garys lawyer files a big fat lawsuit on the county when all this is over.
                                                                                                                                                   August 31/16

Gary Thibedeou
What is the Oswego Sheriff hiding? This case was a giant miscarriage of justice. Let Gary free before he dies in prison.
                                                                                                                                                   August 31/16

I think that has been the plan all along. Oaks keeps waiting until the eleventh hour to file documents. He and Dodd hope Thibedeou will die in jail and that will be the end of it all. This whole thing has the same stench as the Tony Pauldine trial and the get-out-of-jail-free deal that was given to Smegelsky.




Today's  Quote  August 30/2016

“If I were dying my last words would be: Have faith and pursue the unknown end”

Oliver Wendell Holmes Sr.


Gary Fiasco

Re Todd, Moody, Oakes, Dodd
"After twenty years I can't believe I have to tell you there is another van. " Wescott
"If you look in to reports of a van watching the video store CLERK in 1994 you might find information on the van." -Bohrer 1995 FBI statement.
"I asked Murtagh if I had hauled a stolen van used in Heidi kidnapping." -Steen
"The van we hauled off Gary's property sat out there for over ten years." -Breckenridge
" I do recall moving a van for Breckenridge back then off Valley Road. -online statement from Richard Murtagh
"Steen and Roger were talking about getting rid of the van, I was afraid Roger would go with Steen. She left came back. Roger left early that morning his ex wife says.
Ocsd, and the rest of the bafoons also have Stitson there on the scene by their time line as Richard and Gary would have pulled off this crime.
There was a scratch in the panel of a bath room wall. On the interstate headed towards buffalo. The said Heidi Allen was a rat. Hmmm wonder who was using the interstate towards Canada. Maybe the fellas junking the van. Just a guess. This will all be exposed, in supreme.  Jennifer Wescott was given repeated chances to tell the entire truth. I think even her chances are up. Such a believer in God Jennifer was during the hearing. She better start praying.

                                                                                                                                                         August 30/16


Dear Todd, Oakes and Dodd
If Dave Stinson was at the D&W from 7:41-7:45 and Richard bought cigarettes at 7:42 plus kidnapped Heidi, why didn't Stinson see the crime?

Never mind, it'll come up in the appeal trial.
                                                                                                                                                   August 28-29/16


Time line at D&W doesn't make sense: From the DA Statement of Facts.
7:41 Stinson arrives at the D&W
7:42 last transaction on register...Richard bought cigs.
Stinson must have entered the store just after 7:42 between 7:42 and 7:45.
7:45 Stinson waves down Deputy Curtis 3 minutes after Richard left. How could he not have seen Richard taking her?

Stinson was there from 7:41 - 7:45 when he flagged down the Deputy.

Richard bought cigs at 7:42 and left presumably with Heidi Allen and Gary kidnapping her but Stinson didn't see him.

So Stinson must have entered the store after Richard left and no Heidi.

Why didn't Stinson see Richard kidnap Heidi, he was there one minute before the last sale at 7:42 which we are told was Richards.

7:45 Mrs. Fabin sees van swerving behind her in Mexico
7:48 Brittany Link sees Richards van at Garys

So that means Stinson didn't see him but he was there.
Richard drove from the D&W at 7:42 to Mexico and then to Gary's all in 3 minutes.

Who was there from 7:42 to 7:45 when Stinson waved down Deputy Curtis?
How could this possibly happen?  Why isn't there a time for when Bivens went by the D&W in the DA's Facts? He said he didn't recall  telling a deputy that he dove by between 8-8:30 and saw 2 men abducting Heidi....impossible, Stinson said she was gone when he entered the store at about 7:42.

There's something really wrong going on here.

                                                                                                                                                       August 25/16


Watch key witness in Heidi Allen kidnapping case take lie detector (video)


                                                                                                                                            May 11/16









Today's  Quote  May 6/2016

"Religion is the opium of the masses."
Karl Marx


Do You Want This Guy Spraying Hazardous Chemicals

In The Parks Where Your Children and Pets Play?


Council Poised To Reconsider Herbicide Vote
Council awarding contract to fireman's business, ???????




                                                                                                                           Jan 11/16



Neither the Federal nor the State governments

have ever mandated that the City of Oswego

raise its water or sewer rates.

Anyone who says they did is a F**KING LIAR!!!!!!








Today's Quote  August 6/15

“It's your life. Live it with people who are alive. It tends to be contagious.”
Peter McWilliams


Oswego Firefighter Sentenced

Last night in Minetto Town Court Oswego firefighter and former Minetto fire chief Joe Smegelsky Jr. received the maximum sentence of $1000 and two years probation despite arguments from the District Attorney Greg Oaks and defense lawyer Timothy Kirwan. They had hoped for a lesser sentence but based on information in Smegelsky's pre sentencing report the maximum punishment was handed down.


An audit by the State Comptrollers office found that Smegelsky had taken funds and used a department credit card to purchase a handgun, automotive parts and assorted items. He also created a fictitious company which sold fire equipment from undisclosed sources to the Minetto Department. District Attorney Oaks repeatedly argued for special treatment because Smegelsky had paid back slightly less than half of what the Comptrollers office found. However the fact remains he paid nothing back until he was caught.



Joeseph Smegelsky Jr.


Below is a copy of the District Attorney's plea bargain and his explaination of how they arrived at it.

If you enjoy fiction you will love this.








Today's Quote, January 26/15

"I am not an enemy of the negro, we want him here among us; he is the only laboring class we have."
Nathan Bedford Forrest


One week ago we celebrated Martin Luther King Day. I am sure members of the Ozwego Fire Department seized the opportunity to rack up some double overtime but that is about the only use they have for non-whites.

Since its inception in 1876 the Oswego Fire Department has been as white as the driven snow, with respect to the color of its members that is. In its 139 year history there has never been an Asian, Black or Hispanic member. If you think this somehow reflects the population then you better take off your blinders. Oswego’s elected officials and Personnel Department have long allowed department members to live as far away as Montour Falls, Watertown, and Groton. There is no way you can cast a net that far and say, that population is reflected by our department.

In the late 1980’s there was young Black man working for the local cable company who sometimes frequented the Fire House Tavern as did members of the OFD. The firefighters exam had been announced and he was asking some of the OFD members if they thought he had a chance of getting in. He received all kinds of encouragement while he was there but after he left I overheard two of the Heroes chuckling and say no way they were going to let him in the department. “We have Guinias and Polocks and that is as integrated as we are going to get.” I do not know if the man ever took the test but the fact is that department remains as segregated as the day it was formed. They are allowed to operate as their own little fiefdom picking and choosing their own white membership and no one has the balls to put a stop to it.

The next time our Senators and Congressmen come around for their photo ops with our Hero Department we should all point out to the national media how they are supporting a racist organization. Perhaps we should ask the NAACP how this has been overlooked by their organization for so long.
                                                                                                                            Jan 26/15





Joseph Smegelsky


Audit of Minetto fire chief charged with misusing $22K in funds for guns, motorcycle parts completed
"This individual had keys to the cash register and went on a spending spree with the fire company's money," DiNapoli said in a statement.


                                                                                                                    Dec 20/14

Today's Quote, July 2/14


“Thieves respect property. They merely wish the property to become their property that they may more perfectly respect it.”
G. K. Chesterton


Oswego's finest screwing the taxpayers once again spotted at Dicks Sporting Goods in Great Northern Mall on 6/22/14.....didn't know they sold food there....or were they perhaps getting a new set up clubs at our expense??? Would still like to see the tab for the turning stone "conference" they went to....a whole weekend at the turning stone??? meals, rooms, drinks, etc???? The worst part is it will never change. No matter who is mayor they will always be controlled by the f.d. and no one will run against our current council members. Oswego has become homeowners to few (I stand corrected good homeowners) and is a city full of renters.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14

That was probably just Smegelsky picking up some guns. They should be checking the video at Dicks to see who was with him. That hero should be arrested too.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14

Minetto Chief
People like that are paranpiod about someone else stealing what they just stole so naturally he would need to get a gun to protect all his or should I say our stuff.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14


Ambulance Numbers

Yes, they are not as correct as they should be as I left off the 2 additional firemen that go out on Ambulance #2 and many of the other expenses that can be attributed to the ambulance service . In reality here is a $300,000 loss each year without he expense of a new ambulance. The point is, we will never make a profit on this service; have a fully qualified ambulance located in Oswego (Menter) that can handle all emergencies; could cut 15 men from the department with all their benefits and return $2,000,000 to the taxpayers; while cutting the long term obligation of retirement and the padding of such for years to come.
Unfortunately, the obtuse Mayor, Council, and most of all ,Fire Chief, have another agenda and it is not in the best interest of he taxpayers. McCrobie probably was, at one time, a good fireman, but as a chief and leader lacks in total credibility. The way overtime is handed out only shows that he is helping to bump up he retirement of the soon to retire firemen by thousands of taxpayers dollars. There is a belief that hey will all get their turn is the OT merry-go-round, but the fact is, the tier 6 firemen will never see that benefit. The new anti padding law passed and signed by he governor will not allow tier 6 employees to add any more than $15,000 to their retirement benefits, and they will now have to go for the last 5 years instead of 3. If I were a tier 6, I would tell the tier 5's to stick their $50.00 they pay for the OT and start taking their share of the OT, because it will all be ending when all the tier 5's retire.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14

Minetto Fire Chief
I asked a few weeks ago if anybody knew what was going on with Minetto's Fire Chief well here you go.
Stole $20,000 from the fire department. I'm going to guess he possibly stole more since he's being held with no bail. Coinsedently though he just bought a piece of property behind his own for $20,000. Don't believe me? Here's the property taxes. Coincident? You should take a drive by his property to check it out. Constantly cars & trucks are being 'stored' there and then disappear. Camper was there for a whole summer now that's gone. I even seen the Minetto's fire truck pull up to his vacant property hook on a utility trailer with all the fireman in it and take off. Now Minetto Fire Dept has plenty of property to store at their station. Why would they use his? I offend wondered why a property owner who only has 1/4 acre of grass need a 0 point turn lawn mower? Probably the fire departments.



                                                                                                                    July 2/14




Reporting Welfare Fraud
If you suspect, or have knowledge of a social services client fraudulently receiving assistance from Public Assistance, Food Stamps or Home Energy Assistance (HEAP), you should report it to the Office of Temporary and Disability Assistance.




Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force 



Secret Service Electronic Crime Task Force




RE: Oswego Corruption
Here are some places you should send your complaints.
Do not waste your time with the county DAs office.

Office of the State Comptroller

Division of Investigations
59 Maiden Lane
30th Floor
New York, N.Y. 10038
212-383- 2502



Office of the State Comptroller
Division of Investigations
110 State Street

Albany, N.Y.   12236-0001


New York State Office of the Attorney General
Public Integrity Unit
120 Broadway, 22nd Floor
New York, N.Y. 10271



New York State Reigonal Office of the Attorney General
615 Erie Boulevard West, Suite 102
Syracuse, NY 13204
Phone Number: (315)448-4800

Consumer Frauds Number: (315)448-4848
Fax Numers:
(315)448-4853 (Main Number)
(315)448-4851 (Consumer Frauds Bureau)
Office Hours: 8:30 a.m. to 6:00 p.m., Monday thru Friday

United States Justice Department
Organized Crime & Racketeering
James Handley Federal Building
Syracuse, N.Y. 13261

Federal Bureau of Investigation
James Handley Federal Building
Syracuse, N.Y. 13261

New York State Police
1220 Washington Avenue
Building 22
Albany, NY 12226-2252


New York State Police
Fulton, NY

6 East 12th Street,

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