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Looking To Find
Doris Austin Jones
and Ken G Jones
who who owned a house on Route 48
in the Town of Minetto about 1969 - 1971.
They also lived at 75
West 8th St. Oswego, NY.
If you have any contact
information on them or their family please email editor@oswegonylion.com
Today's Quote June 19/2018
Parents and schools should place great
emphasis on the idea that it is all right to be different. Racism and all
the other 'isms' grow from primitive tribalism, the instinctive hostility
against those of another tribe, race, religion, nationality, class or
whatever. You are a lucky child if your parents taught you to accept
diversity.
Roger Ebert
Immigrates on Mexican Boarder
Just saw the holding pens for the immigrates coming across the Mexican
border at Texas, and all Trump needs are the showers and Zyklon-B and his
immigration policy will be fulfilled. Pretty sad!
June 19/18
RE: EAST SIDE SLUMS, message from the wrong side of the tracks
We on the east side are very aware of the environment around us over here.
We also know and have our place, When we report a large sinkhole with no
support under an area of pavement west side you get repairs east side we
have waited since Memorial day to have something done we get a orange
barrel, left for traffic to choose which side to pass on. We also do not
enjoy the refuse pickup, we spend our summer looking at large piles our
D.P.W passes daily, I understand that limb pickup is better as far away as
silver lake on 85 and also quicker service in Scriba. When we attempt to
improve our homes appearance we had our assessment raised 11 thousand
dollars for our efforts. We also live on a block were there are over 15
rental units within a half block area, we tolerate open trash containers
with debris flying into our yards. we ALSO OFFER A DRAG STRIP FOR OUR CITY
VEHICLES during work hours and then at work days end. So give us a little
credit, we are not a part of harborfest so city money will never get to
use. Even our military station flips us off by growing large weeds in
their planters. We need more low income housing over here and I'm willing
to bet that is what the east side future holds. We are so sorry we moved
here!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the only good thing over here is our police presents
they are here all the time, GOD BLESS THEM.
June 19/18
Thibodeau
HHmm. Mr. Oswego County DA was representing “The People” during the
Hearing as if the Defense was prosecuting the 3 and they were defending
the 3.
That’s not what the Hearing was for, dopes. Lisa said years ago that the
Defense wasn’t required to present ‘who’ else did or could have kidnapped
Heidi just that there was a great possibility that Gary did not. Clearly
King made a personal determination of their credibility.
Ms. Rivera summed the dissenting members’ determination rather well- it
was not up to the Court to decide if the testimony was credible or not but
rather to determine if All presented would have changed the outcome.
Dodd, Oakes, Todd, Wheeler, and others, should ALL be sanctioned. Yerdon,
VanPatten and Curtis, we didn’t forget about you!!
Oakes-dumber than a box of rocks or can’t read/understand words put
together to form sentences. Might I suggest college level reading
comprehension. Or at the very least, get a dictionary man if you don’t
know what word combinations mean.
3 out of 4 dissenting and those dissenters making a comprehensive analysis
of ALL original trial testimony vs the majority’s one sided (confirmation
bias) decision?
June 19/18
Hang in there Gary and Ms. Peebles -- Go For It!!
Tom Decastyournuts ( school board )
Tom actually trained to remove a oswego high school teacher and send that
teacher to the middle school, in return, take that teacher ( which was not
even certified in that position ) to replace, ONLY BECAUSE IT WAS ONE OF
TOM ( family and friends ) power play ! And he did say, “ I Am the
Schoolboard “ , wow !
This is what the city of oswego, ny is about !
And this morning at 9;45 a.m. ,saw the mayor of oswego get out of his
white camaro, with his greased back hair and those pointed shoes ! Is this
how a mayor is suppose to look, after all, would you want a greased up
male rep the city of oswego or some that would know how to dress in a
business manner, and have people that could run their depts ! Heck, it
might be a good idea if the mayor dressed and went to the office in a suit
, everyday !
June 19/18
Does the City Of Oswego, NY Provide The Mayor With A VECHILE ?
White Camaro , tag number “ WG-12 “ . And was there office hours set up
for the mayor , to be in office, and how many day s a week where they
suppose to be there ? And does the mayor have any running accts. with the
local motel, hotel, b&d . I bet he has a great view of the westside from
the eastside !
June 19/18
Today's Quote June 18/2018
Sins cannot be undone, only forgiven.
Igor Stravinsky
Just A Question
Is someone who gets public asst. the same as low income ?
June 18/18
According to the Census Bureau it is.
https://www.census.gov/topics/income-poverty/income/about.html
East Side
Driving around the East side this weekend, North and East of Bridge
street-East Seneca, Mitchell, George, Cayuga and St. Paul's and what a
site. Weeds thigh high. Any property that the city USED to maintain is
over grown. Can't even see cars coming when pulling off of St.Paul's on to
Mithchell looking West. Looks like the slums of Oswego. Maybe Kells ought
to stop playing with his girlfriend and Mrs. BROADWELL, Oh I mean the Dock
Master in the parks and get to cutting some tall grass and weeds....What a
sightly drive going up to the nice doggie park! Have NEVER seen it look
this bad and he has doubled the work force.....
June 18/18
Today's Quote June 15-17/2018
No one can avoid aging, but aging
productively is something else.
Katharine Graham
Riverside Cemertery
I went to check on the flowers at Riverside ,and the gate was close and
the sign on the gate said High Voltage it was 12:45 pm. I like to know
why?
June 15-17/18
Britt Hills Construction Project
Who owns the property ? Is this a project that might be a “ Waterhouse
pumping station “ ?
Is this for the Oswego Speedway ? Campers are the first thought !
Is this another side step from barlow, tells, bell ,avery, broad well,
ruddick, code enforcement and the engineering dept looking the other way ?
I did not know, that bring in housing into the middle of a small city (
oswego ) mid and low income housing, was attracting people and business to
come here !
Haborfest, low income housing brings what ? to oswego ? Water park is just
another bathing pool ! Bring the soap !
June 15-17/18
Oswego Schoolbo
ard Members Pushing Out Teacher
Tom Decastrol, you are a phony ,as phony come ! Telling everybody that YOU
ARE THE SCHOOLBOARD ! And I think the Taxpayers of the school district.
would like to know, who the kiss asses that were running for the school
board !
What a bunch of coffee drinking kiss asses, ( I am going to hold your dixk
in my hand , because i think you are great, Please wipe your mouth !
And it might be another thought, why not ask the former mayor of oswego,
ny about the ballet stuffing that he got caught in, but was never reported
! Oswego Polittics is dirty as it comes, pauline, you are truly trying to
master this craft !
Heck, sullivan can not even get the sax player’s name right on his letter
to the editor right !
June 15-17/18
Today's Quote June 14/2018
The things that we love tell us what we are.
Thomas Aquinas
Re: Private property being cleared by Oswego DPW with city equipment /
and city DPW workers. (DPW Com., Kells?)
June 14/18
Father's Day Gift Suggestions if You Live Next Door to a Nazi
CAUTION: make sure you don't have any of the real item in your house
before using these products and for 30 days after you start. The 30 days
is to allow time for the nuisance complaints to become officially
unfounded.
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=cannabis+scentedincense
June 14/18
Trump Claiming Victory?
It is absurd that our President is already claiming Victory after his 48
minute talk with the N. Korean Leader. Does he not realize that this is
possibly a setup between China, Russia and N. Korea in an effort to not
just get sanctions removed on N. Korea but to mainly get our Military
removed from the Korean Peninsula. He needs to realize who he is dealing
with people, this is not the Pope and Bishops that he is making deals
with. What gives this man the right to decide on his own that he can just
come out and say that he will basically remove all Military drills that
the U.S. and S. Korea have been conducting for years on the Peninsula? The
shock here is his "GOP CULT" is not defying him in any mater that he
solely takes upon himself to do. This is a very DANGEROUS President don't
kid yourselves fellow Republicans and wake up and call your congressmen
and voice any concerns that you may have before it is to late. With the
players involved in this Scenario it may be later than we think. In my
opinion this man has turned the Republican Congress and their followers
into very Cult like just as U.S. Senator Bob Corker (R) Tennessee has
stated. It is also understandable why they voted for his Big Tax cut as
they are the ones that most benefit from it. It's not the 9-5 workers, not
the ones who work shift work or those who have to work two or three jobs
in order to pay the bills (which will only get higher with his tariff's)
Senior's on Medicare and Social Security did not benefit from the tax cuts
as a matter of fact these are the ones who will be paying for the tax cuts
as soon as the mid term elections are over with. People it is time to wake
up and see what this kniver is doing. Never trust an individual who lies
like a rug!
June 14/18
It Should Be...
Politician that is going to run for another office, should give up the
present office ! Only fair to the taxpayers !
June 14/18
Today's Quote June 13/2018
We all live with the objective of being
happy; our lives are all different and yet the same.
Anne Frank
Re Had Oswego Buildings
If City Hall, Jason Dickhead, and others try to play this History
rebuild, they have to hire a Certified rebuild arch to research and
approve and submit rehab contractors, materials, time frame, funding, asb
survey, that includes the roof also ! I am sure the tony pauline does not
have any of the proper certif Lic. to conduct proper construction
inspection, asb inspection, site inspection, site removal, site storage,
site displacement,, site testing, site disposal, ( just like he did on the
Lambrinos dry cleaners on east first street ) ! Where was the mayor, code
enforcement, zoning enforcement, fire dept, police, insurance companies
,aldermen ( most of all ) and those smart teachers and current super at
the time, not concerend about construction run overs !
And what about those pilot agreements ! I am so glad that these voted in
pin heads can do math on the 1 st grade level ( might be in question ),
because it is costion taxpayers monies, while broad well, pauline, and
other money grabbers, keep reaching into or should i say it this way,
running there hands right into our pockets with both of THEIR HANDS and
SMILING AT THE SAMETIME !
Yes, this city needs more low income housing, and with their great monies
thought in mind, They Put It Right In The Middle Of The Freackin City!
Yep, this city needs more low income housing, tattoo houses, coffee shops
and smoke stores and pawnshops ! Great Vision, might as well have Mr Gooey
run the WHOLE SHOW !
June 13/18
Today's Quote June 12/2018
Mankind has probably done more damage to the
Earth in the 20th century than in all of previous human history.
Yves Cousteau
21 Talisman Terrance Britney Hills Oswego Ny
Private property being cleared by Oswego DPW with city equipment /and city
DPW workers !! working like worker bees !! Could use them to do some work
for me / around the corner!!Taxpayer dollars being used ?? Does property
owner owe us for the equipment and man hrs ?? Same location where fire
hydrant was hooked up without a meter on it / used for Famous Dirt Week /
there again as Taxpayer I pay $275 quarter for water and sewer !! Did we
get paid for that service we provided to Dirt Week ??Nice job on taxpayer
$$! Or was I wrong for not asking / be nice to know what's going on here!!
History repeating itself all over again with City owned taxpayers
equipment !!
June 12/18
Today's Quote June 10-11/2018
Be not simply good - be good for something.
Henry David Thoreau
Fox is back on the air!
Attention NASCAR Racing Fans, You will actually be able to watch the race
at the Michigan Speedway on Fox Channel 8 in this area on Sunday June 9th
as both Channel 7 and Channel 8 through Spectrum is back on the air.
Finally!
June 10-11/18
Fox & Friends' Host Calls North Korea Summit A Meeting Of 'Two
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b1d4727e4b0bbb7a0de46ca
June 10-11/18
Today's Quote June 9/2018
Bureaucrats: they are dead at 30 and buried
at 60.
They are like custard pies; you can't nail
them to a wall.
Frank Lloyd Wright
Attention Oswego Seniors!
How many Seniors are aware that Paul Ryan and his fellow Republicans have
voted to Decimate Medicare. Yes that is correct folks they voted to
destroy Medicare. The main reason is that by using funds that could have
been put into the system which is due to run out of money in 2026 has been
divided up among the top 1% through a outrageous tax break led by Donald J
Trump. Next on the agenda is our Social Security Benefits as they have
just started tapping into the reserve fund which is expected to run out by
the year 2032. It makes me sick to my stomach to think that this President
has put the Countries Richest over our Senior Citizens by giving Billions
away to the top 1%, You talk about a Robin Hood reversal folks, that's
right Mr. Trump and his fellow Republicans are taking from the poor and
giving to the rich. I am not a Hillary supporter by no means or ever was
as a matter of fact I am another one who voted for Trump, shame on me! But
in Hillary Clinton's defense I will say one thing about Hillary is that
She ran her Campaign on saving Medicare and Social Security. Now were
stuck with a Paul Ryan and Trump who wants to Decimate Medicare and take
more from Medicaid, change Social Security and continue to give tax breaks
to the wealthiest. It is time that our Republicans that we voted in to
look out for us all to stop looking the other way and take the blinders
off as to what this President is doing to us and our Country. He lies,
Cheats and He may have possibly even stole the election with a little help
from his friends and we all know who those friends are. Pardon me to if
anyone thinks I was to harsh!
June 8/18
Scooters around town
People that choose to ride scooters in traffic in our city had better
learn the rules of the road before they end up with road rash or worse,
road kill.
Failure to yield the right of way and following too close will get you
hurt, physically and financially.
June 8/18
I voted wrong again, he is not the lesser of two evils
This young man had an awesome opportunity to not only help our city, but
also to set a foundation for a political career. But instead he got taken
in by some real ass holes, why do we not hire friends and family, well
number one, it just does not look right and in the long run as you can see
it just never works out. When someone wrote about the girl friend
supervisor who would have to go into work on the night shift, was it
because there was no other person who could have delegated the shifts
work, no it's because when your doing dirty business it becomes imperative
that you have your finger on the pulse of everything that goes on around
you, thus a girlfriend supervisor. I understand the marina has the same
type of leadership. I do not believe that our mayor will serve a second
term and we have to assume we have now seen his true colors and we as
citizens are NOT on the painters pallet. When he leaves office they will
still be reaping the benefits he has provided them I hope they will
remember him
June 8/18
Trump’s Policies Paying Off For Man Who Helped Make Him President:
Vladimir Putin
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b1aed83e4b09d7a3d726414
June 8/18
Today's Quote June 8/2018
One-third of the people in the
United States promote, while the other two-thirds provide.
Will Rogers
Unfortunate Facts
How many Oswego police officers are combat veterans? The reason I ask is
to make sure the city has the proper liability coverage in case one of
them shoots somebody. Why would a combat veteran with 0 police experience
shoot at anything that moves? Go figure it out. LOL If you compare
statistics on police officers nationwide you'll discover an alarming
trend. The one's who've recently gunned down unarmed civilians are nearly
ALL combat vets.Is the Trump administration waging war against half the
population of America? Will poverty be criminalized? We're 2 steps closer
to Putin's dream. The Trump organization in case you haven't noticed is a
criminal enterprise modeled after Russia's oligarchs and the Mafia.Why do
you think Mueller's in charge of the criminal investigation? Because he's
the best MOB prosecutor in the FBI. P.S. Sessions is well aware of Trump's
criminality and will be happy to see him indicted.
I can remember when all the afternoon talk shows
were doing stories about how viet Nam vets were ticking time bombs just
waiting for some one or some thing to set them off.
Do not put too much stock in it. Some people have a harder time adjusting
to life back in the real world. You never really pick up where you left
off.
Stabbing at Oswego County DSS
What’s with the news blackout about the stabbing at Oswego County DSS?
This is the only news about it:
http://www.localsyr.com/news/local-news/mexico-school-district-goes-on-lockout-due-to-nearby-stabbing-at-the-dss/1225319627
No details, no description of the incident, no mention of the suspect who
they supposedly was apprehended. Retired Oswego County Sheriff’s deputies
staff the security there. Why so hush, hush? If a retired officer was on
duty, how was someone able to stab someone and run away? Too many
questions and no answers. This is what happens whenever Oswego County
Sheriff’s Department is involved. Must be someone’s buddy or relative of
the “good ole boys OZ club”. Answer the public Moe Todd, or were you at
the casino again this afternoon? Moe even hid at the Memorial Day Parade
in Fulton, had Gene Sullivan, riding in the Sheriff’s SUV. Are we paying
Moe to hide away at the casino?
June 8/18
Barron Trump Emperor for Life
I don't believe I've ever seen a more evil, brooding,volatile personality
in any former White House child in my entire life. Like father like son? I
can only imagine the kind of education he's actually receiving outside of
prep school. He probably raped HIS first housekeeper at age 10. It's also
easy to imagine Putin grooming him as he did his father with the expert
assistance of FSB operative Melania who he recruited as director of the
KGB at age 18. I can envision a time 20 years from now when Barron is
declared Emperor for Life of Trumpland and his new reality show is
obviously called Armageddon. it's all about the Nielsen ratings.
June 8/18
Today's Quote June 7/2018
It is the soothing thing about
history that it does repeat itself.
Gertrude Stein
Re: What the Mailman Said
Use the County GIS. Every square inch of the County is mapped with land
parcels. You can click on any box and get the owner, address, and a link
back to the real property site you mentioned. There aren't any "hidden"
properties anymore now that we have aerial imagery. Find another
conspiracy theory.
June 7/18
DPW DRUGGIES
The two of them had prior drug
related arrests. Barlow and Kells knew it to.
June 7/18
What do you the taxpayer get, and how much do you lose,
and who controls who gets a
P.I.L.O.T. agreement?
https://oswegocountytoday.com/p-i-l-o-t-payment-in-lieu-of-taxes-agreements/
June 7/18
Today's Quote June 6/2018
Patriotism is supporting your
country all the time,
and your government when it
deserves it.
Mark Twain
The city of Oswego and their champagne taste and flat beer pocket book.
After a trip into Oswego it's plain to see the problems this city has.
Does the dpw have the knowledge to run a laser Transit? Every man hole
cover is at a different height and nearly impossible to avoid.
It's real nice that the city is using the millions of dollars to build
things the city really doesn't need instead of being responsible and
repair the things we have.
The city really needs to crack down on all the handyman and so called
general contractors. Since when has it ever been ok to support floors with
3/8 all tread (pauldine) and illegally removing asbestos that another fly
by night contractor leaves out in plain sight over at 22 Cayuga St (Tony
again).
Why doesn't this town grow a set and stand up for what this city needs. It
needs a good cleaning. Quit letting the business owners run this town and
get some people in there who can bring a change to this town.
June 6/18
What the Mailman Said
"..I've always wondered about certain homes in town that appeared well
maintained and have no house number. I've never delivered mail to" Are
these homes in probate? If so is anyone paying property taxes on them? Is
this another scam to acquire these properties a la Mike Parker?
If you all did a survey of your own streets using the OCRPS you will find
homes that do not appear anywhere at the site. Some homes are listed under
the WRONG address. Are they hidden for some reason or simply not listed at
all?? Either way it's more criminal activity and corruption.
June 6/18
Today's Quote June 5/2018
The world's great men have not
commonly been great scholars, nor its great scholars great men.
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.
Really....
Don't the talking heads have enough sex scandals to talk about with Trump
paying whores hundreds of thousands dollars to keep their mouths shut? Now
they want to talk about Clinton-Lewinsky, two consenting adults, where
Lewinsky gave Clinton a BJ. They were both consenting adults, but Trump
hires whores and pays to keep them quite. Time for the "Talking Heads" to
start concentrating on this lying piece of shit that now sits in the big
chair at the White House. They might also want to re-visit his current
wife and what she did before they were married.
Clinton–Lewinsky scandal. The Clinton–Lewinsky scandal was an American
political sex scandal that involved 49-year-old President Bill Clinton and
22-year-old White House intern Monica Lewinsky. The sexual relationship
took place between 1995 and 1997 and came to light in 1998.
June 5/18
Trump and Clinton, what a pair they make. One
can‘t read and the other can’t write.
Clinton deserves to be bashed and trashed every bit as much as Trump.
Neither one of them are any god damn good.
"I did not have sexual relations with that woman" Bill Clinton 1998
"I've never talked to her, (Monica
Lewinsky)"
Bill Clinton 2018
Twenty years and the lying bastard still can’t call the woman by her name.
He used his power and position to seduce a 22 year old subordinate. He
disgraced the office of the president and embarrassed the country.
By fighting impeachment he thinks he was defending the constitution?
He is just as screwed up in the head as Trump and he is just as big an
asshole. Dear Slick Willie take your stupid book that someone else wrote
for you and shove it up your ass then rot in hell YOU NO GOOD FUCKING SON
OF A BITCH!
U.N. Expert: America's Poor Becoming More Destitute Under Trump
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b131f08e4b010565aac77bc
June 5/18
Re: Commercial Landlords vs. Taxpayer Landlords.
If the registered Republican taxpayers of Oswego knew how many properties
might not even be listed on the tax rolls, how many properties are
undervalued until it's time to sell, how much renovation is done without
permits, how much work is done on private property by city workers, how
many city cops and firemen are slumlords, how many condemnable slumlord
dwellings are still condemnable, all their personal immorality, lack of
ethics and sexual perversion next election they might just vote for...you
guessed it, the same assholes because those same tax paying Republicans
are the beneficiaries of the corruption!
June 5/18
Trumps Wife
Melania finally showed herself in public. Amazing how fast doctors can
take care of a black eye and cut lip these days.
June 5/18
CUOMO AND CONS
https://nypost.com/2018/05/22/cuomo-issues-pardons-officially-giving-parolees-voting-rights/
June 5/18
Buying Votes
Does New York State really need MORE LOW INCOME HOUSING ? That is what
city hall is doing !
Ask the question, how friendly is city hall to the taxpayers, who might
need one year or two , to get taxes in order ?
How many taxpayers had to file ( no income ) , so they had to give there
property to the bank and city hall because they were behind in taxes, two
years ?
Now this would not be a property grab on pauline, avery, tells, bell,
broad well, and others, would it ?
The Greed is Big, the voter turnout is small !
June 5/18
Trump tax cuts a "Hoax" for Middle class!
The Trump tax cuts were nothing less than a slap in the face to the middle
class. This tax cut was mainly directed to the top 1% like himself.
Another one of his many "white lies" was that this tax cut would do
nothing to help people like himself.
It was drawn up for people like himself with no expiration date, in other
words it is "FOREVER" Folks, that's correct "Forever". He already knows
when push comes to shove that He'll go after the people who are the
weakest prey such as the ones who depend on Medicare, Medicaid and Social
Security recipients. You can bet your bottom dollar folks that this man is
not looking out for the lower to middle class of our society but looking
out for the ones in his class. He is going to drain the lower to middle
class if he drains anything, of anything we have. Look what pulling out of
the Iran Nuclear Deal has done to oil (gas) prices already! Wait until you
go shopping after all these tariff's kick in with all these other
Countries who thought the USA was their friend. The man doesn't even
listen to his own party when making these rash decisions and if you
thought healthcare was expensive when Obama came up with his "Obama Care"
well you have not seen nothing yet! Wait until you see what you will be
paying under "Trump Care" My fellow Republicans it is time to wake up and
not kiss up to this loose unit. He needs to be stopped ASAP and definitely
not re-elected for another term. He even lies to his own political party.
I will admit that I did vote for this loooose unit and it was the BIGGEST
mistake that I ever made! There are times when we should not be for
someone because they are representing our political party and this is
definitely one of them. Hopefully Mitt Romney will be the nominee for the
2020 election, NOT Donald J Trump! He just wants to widen the gap between
the middle class and himself!
June 5/18
Today's Quote June 3-4/2018
Neither current events nor history show that
the majority rule, or ever did rule.
Jefferson Davis
America's poor becoming more destitute under Trump
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-rights-un/americas-poor-becoming-more-destitute-under-trump-u-n-expert-idUSKCN1IY0C3
June 3-4/18
Trump has spent more visiting Mar-a-Lago than Mueller has on Russia
probe
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/390422-trump-has-spent-more-visiting-mar-a-lago-than-mueller-has-on-russia
June 3-4/18
Trump lawyers’ argument that he can’t obstruct justice would be valid
in a dictatorship
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/390426-schumer-trump-lawyers-argument-he-cant-obstruct-justice-would-make?amp=1
June 3-4/18
Commercial Landlords vs. Taxpayer Land|ords .
How does one compare to the behind taxes ( commercial to private ) ?
Pauline does not get demo permit, dumpster permit, building permit, Asb.
Abatement Survey ,have trained workers ,on site ! Please, let us see the
OSHA 10 and 30 cards ! Taxpayers should be concerned, because if these
workers and owner of the company ( pauline ) are not going by the proper
abatement, the tax payers are are at risk and pauldine is saving thousands
of dollars and the code office, zoning office, tax office, engineering
office, community development office ( ruddick, you could not water grass
) !
And if the Mayor was a ground shaker, how come he is not in the office at
6:00 A. M. ? After all, running this Great city of oswego, ny , you would
think that it takes 16 hour days, not 5 hour days !
Hey Kells, drop the city truck and the gas card , and show what YOU are
really made off ?
P.S. Do you have any FAMILY in City Hall, Board of Education and maybe in
the Broadwell Empire ? Or do you look for people to BOW !
Time to take this City of Oswego , Back !
June 3-4/18
Today's Quote June 2/2018
If you love what you do, then
you always find the time.
Heidi Klum
Imagine Spectrum lying
Spectrum has lied to all of us, I have been in contact with Northwest
Broadcasting and learned that they had offered to leave all programming in
place until they were able to reach an agreement, it was Spectrum that
pulled the channels and then ran there bullshit were sorry screen telling
us they are fighting hard to save us money. Remember all bills just had a
franchise fee of 7.00 added for 3,5 and 9 so they really are not that
concerned with your cost, they buy low and sell high, they have so many
law suites right now, even from our own government. We turned in all TV
related boxes and saw many customers receiving bill adjustments for these
channel loses, but do not think that they would just offer you that
option, you will have to ask. We have found just having cable gives us
access to all TV viewing you my desire and at much better prices. You can
change that companies name a hundred times it's still the same ole time
warner cable!.
June 2/18
TOP 100 DINNER:
Im looking at my tickets to the dinner Sunday at 5:00, and it states
SPONSORED BY OSWEGO ROTARY CLUB, OSWEGO COUNTY FEDERAL CREDIT UNION, AND
PATHFINDER BANK. So why does it cost $16.00 a ticket, and as in last year
about $5000 was raised (top 100 free ) so where does all this money go
!!!!!!!! If they have all this sponsorship, WHY IS IT $16.00 for baked
ziti, meatballs ,salad and roll ???????????
June 2/18
Barlow
I'm not sure how this want a be can wake up every morning and look at
himself in the mirror, His approval rate is probably under 20% , Asked any
DPW worker with more the 3 years on the job and they'll tell you how bad
it is. All the corruption and hiring of friends and the girlfriend running
around that's totally clueless. And the Mayor just looks the other way.
Unbelievable. His daddy should have spanked his ass years ago , He shows
no respect towards anyone except the one who made the big donations. You
must be proud parents to have a kid like that. Cheap suits fake smile.
Enjoy your one term. The taxpayers know what's going on. Your not fooling
anyone. SHAME ON YOU
June 2/18
Cable TV
keep internet, get fire sticks ( amazon ) and sign up for Direct TV Now .
watch tor tv for $ 30.00 per month. does not carry local channels, must
get digital antenna for that ! And if your router is wireless, your tvs
must have a fire stick, you will get the same service , but it will only
cost you $ 30.00 a month ! And , you get more channels !
June 2/18
Spectrum prices solved
Here is what you do.
Walmart and buy a Roku Streaming Stick +. watch it because there are a lot
of streaming sticks by roku...should be about $78. It has a voice search
which is great.
Get on Roku.com and create a membership.
Roku is free and w/ the streaming stick + you get 500k movies, and
thousands of channels...FREE. Load the Roku and Vudu channels they give
free movies each month. Do this in the channel store.
Connect the roku to the back of the tv HDMI port.
Buy YOUTUBE TV. $40 and you get 3,5,9,and fox. It may say you can't when
you check you zip code but I get all of them. Take a look at the
lineup...even get YES.
You're gonna love it, watch what u want and not repeats all the time.
you'll have so much tv you won't believe it.
Take a look at it on you PC.
Becareful if you have a contract with Spectrum...roku has no contracts,
neither does You Tube TV.
June 2/18
Today's Quote June 1/2018
A committee is a group of the
unprepared, appointed by the unwilling to do the unnecessary.
Fred Allen
Spectrum TV Viewing
The consensus around the Oswego NY area is that people are fed up with the
fees that Spectrum is charging for what we are getting. With all the money
we are paying them for our TV, Internet and Phone lines and they can't
find a medium with Northwest Communications to get our Fox (wsyt) back or
our WNYS (7) back are totally absurd! My wife and I sat down Saturday
night planning to watch a New York Yankees game together only to find out
it was to be shown on WSYT Channel 8 which meant we were deprived of
watching our favorite team play. At this point we said "well at least we
can watch the NASCAR Race together tomorrow night" Oh wait a minute is
that on FOX or FS1? Low and behold this to was on FOX WSYT! So to add it
all up we couldn't watch the ballgame Saturday Night or could we watch the
Race on Sunday Night! Well now it will be pre-season Football followed by
the regular season, well I do know one thing we WILL NOT be deprived of us
watching our New York Giants as we will give Spectrum exactly two weeks to
settle something with Northwest Communications or I will be with either
Direct TV or Dish Network and it will be goodbye Spectrum forever! I know
of many others who feel the same way. Spectrums rates and fees continue to
creep up as their programing continues to deteriorate! I could by a decent
car for what I pay them a month. I think every subscriber should get a
price reduction for what we have lost for the last several months. ENOUGH
IS ENOUGH SPECTRUM AND WERE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT MUCH LONGER!
June 1/18
Anything that involves a dish is going to be
affected by rain, snow, sleet even heavy clouds. I would consider
something like this with a signal amplifier and maybe a rotor. If you buy
from Walmart directly you can always bring it back if you do not like it.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/GE-Pro-Outdoor-Yagi-Antenna/52162885
There are also videos on You Tube showing how to
make your own.
Oswego Health
Rumor has it Oswego Health is buying St. Luke’s, supposed to be top
secret.
June 1/18
How nice now there will be no nursing home in the
city that can be trusted with your loved ones.
Oswego Voting
So, Oswego could have a Mayor that pays fed, state, s.s. ( fica ) payroll
tax , but does not pay School tax, county tax, city tax, water/sewer tax,
dumpster fee, demo fee, any building permit fee ( lives with parents, no
worries on his part ), heck, i bet the dog is under the parent’s name
address ! Maybe the vehicle that he drives is owned by his parents !
Sounds like the parents should be in city hall, unless kells is called,
cousin tom !
June 1/18
Today's Quote May 23/2018
Self-preservation is the first
law of nature.
Samuel Butler
Landmark lawsuit claims Monsanto
hid cancer danger of weedkiller for decades
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The city of Oswego, NY used the weed killer
known as ROUNDUP on all of its parks and public areas despite warnings of
its link to serious cancers.
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Myeloma after using public parks, buildings or other public areas in the
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May 23/18
Hard Cold Facts
The hard cold fact is the city of OZ is deeply corrupt and Gary Thibodeau
is innocent, be thankful this did not happen to you or your family.
As far as Stitson, he calls the officials out and informs you in his
statement that he testified to his time of arrival of 7:41 am and did not
budge on this,
Officer Sumner Hall attempted to get Stitson to change his time and he
refused. He also tells you that his memory was not vague but Heidi's own
sisters was.
Stitson's testimony should have destroyed the prosecutors case in 1995,
but the jury obviously did not pay close attention to the time line. You
should question the timeline
100 percent seeing as Gram Duell told reporters the clock in the store was
still off and Heidi had not changed the time, she is quoted as to saying
"time stood still for Heidi."
Stitson also tells you he back tracked his steps and the clocks were both
broke, the wall and the register. How, funny it is only the store owner
and the on scene officer could
match his watch up with both the wall clock and the cash register, the
Duell family had so much involvement in the after affects of the
investigation it isn't funny. THEY ALSO
HAPPEN TO BE ONE PARTY WHO WOULD HAVE KNOWN HEIDI SWITCHED TIMES WITH
ANOTHER CO-WORKER. (funny Duells never admitted the register was BROKEN)
Keep in mind Bohrer said Matt Duell was said to be sexually harassing
Heidi to the point of rape. Here is a direct quote from Bohrer. "Organized
crime is nothing more than organized
individuals, organizing themselves with other organized individuals for
the purpose of getting away with it. With only one intention in mind to
get it all to ones self (all for one and one for all).
It's a mentality or a genetic thing in common with each of these
individuals. I for one call it evil." Think about that for a minute and
then take a pen and write down every corrupt official you can
think of, all their dirty deeds and then draw a line to each one who
connects to another and you'll start to see the pattern. This is to Bohrer
I FOR ONE CALL YOUR ASS EVIL AS HELL!!! It is your
mentality, your genetics that set you aside from the rest of your
organized goons, you sir are one hell of a demon that has walked among us
all for years, unnoticed, that is one scary ass thought. I can
only imagine what else you have done. Gary's case is simply organized
criminals, who organized themselves and pulled off the crime of the
century. Bohrer is right.
May 23/18
Broken time
It's not that Stitsons time was off. You are missing a key piece. 2
seperate people including stitson and duell's own grandmother admitted the
store times their register and clock was BROKEN. Toss away the
confirmation from Duell and Curtis matching the times up, what's left 2
witnesses who confirm they were broken. You are taking the word of Kris
Duell that the times matched Curtis watch. Now seeing as she's hid info
for over 20 years. Think about why she lied about the times. Because she
had something huge to HIDE. She lied, so did Curtis. They were and are the
ONLY 2 who could seem to match Curtis watch to a broken cash register and
the wall clock in which case Stitson tells you it was BROKEN. Gram Duell
tells you the store clock was never changed. So explain how two others
could confirm something that others are debunking? Don't take Kris Duells
word, it's obvious she did not notify anyone back then she found Heidi CI
file, after that she later hired Heidi all coincidence or a set up? I'd
say organized crime, organizing all for one, one for all. Simple fix to
your confusion with Stitson. You'll also notice the original last check
out time 716 am was crossed off 742 was written beside it. Its simple.
Gram Duell nor Stitson lied. But Kris Duell did. Why wouldn't Stitson bend
to fit the sheriff's fudge time line or Gram Duell? But Kris did. Because
2 aren't in on it, the other one is. Kris lied, it's impossible Curtis
watch matched either the cash register or the store wall clock. I can not
stress it enough the liars Kris Duell and officer Curtis.
May 23/18
Reply from Death of Common Sense
Right on, you are right on. What ppl fail to see in this is the fact that
Oakes ( imo ) allegedly is covering for what Dodd did as the DA in the
original case. Anyone think Dodd won't take Oakes down if it gets that
far...I do. Oakes was talked to (imo) and has essentially hung himself in
a new trial or in a election...and guess what Oakes the OC Legislator
doesn't care about you...hope you taped those conversations you may have
had with anyone. " I really have my doubts about the INTEGRITY of the OCSD
in this investigation". Isn't that what you said to Lisa...BEFORE you for
some "reason" switched sides, opinions and then went after Gary. Come on,
this is so obvious it's a joke.
You are right, this case makes no sense, time lines don't fit, Stinson HAD
to see something ( this is an easy one ) Lisa P. will tear him apart,
Swenkowski IS GT's best alibi.
I STATED A LONG TIME AGO TO "SPACECUBE" ON THE BLOG THAT THERE ARE A LOT
MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED THAN WE CAN IMAGINE...THAT WAS BACK IN 2014...AND
IT'S COMING TOGETHER. Oakes slid out because Lisa was prevented by King
from asking for witnesses and the other unfair things he did in this
court.
Yes it does seem like the tape was tampered with, other ppl should have
been there if the time line is correct, the snitches and the fact that
Heidi was gone but cashed out Richard is a big one.
Your entire statement that you replied to me is the truth, and we all know
it. I don't think John Gott's lawyer could convince a jury of any thing
different. Oakes covering for Dodd may coat him a prison sentence and Dodd
will deny and walk away.
The SWISS CHEESE comment was obvious the first time I read this case in
2014. There are so many mistakes that if they get a new trial, there are
going to be a lot of ppl going to prison.
Did they do enough for the appeals court to grant them a new sentence..in
opinion, yes in law maybe not.
God please give Gary, Lisa and Randi another fair shot as this case is so
corrupt with so many mistakes and controversial elements that the whole
machine will come apart.
Here's to hoping you guys go to prison. If not I hope your guilt eats you
up everyday for the rest of your lives. Just think of what people are
thinking about you as you finish your lives, go about your business and
hopefully rejected by the voters.
PS: Dodd is not your friend in this...wake up.
May 23/18
ASK YOURSELF
IF THE DUELLS HAD NOTHING TO DO WIH THE KIDNAPPING OF HEIDI ALLEN, WHY
WOULD THEY NOT ADMITT THE REGISTER WAS BROKEN, THE CLOCK IN THE STORE WAS
NOT RIGHT AND THE FACT KRIS DUELL FOUND HEIDI CONFIDENTIAL CARD? GREGORY
J-OAKES -where is Duells lie detector test? Why is it Kris Duell was
anywhere near the search maps and directing the search parties? I'd say
their hands were dirty then and even dirtier now.
May 23/18
Today's Quote May 22/2018
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will have to pay, and heavily, for that privilege. Ethel Waters
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will have to pay, and heavily, for that privilege. Ethel Waters
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When you dominate other people's emotions,
the time has to come when you will have to
pay, and heavily, for that privilege.
Ethel Waters
Re: Death of Common Sense
Yes, Stinson did testify at Gary's trial.
He literally saw nothing about the kidnapping. Didn't see Heidi, didn't
see Richard or his van, didn't see any money on the counter when he got
there (in contradiction to Lisa B's book-the truth about that is in the
transcripts and per his statement in Lisa P's filing after he read Lisa's
book). He didn't see Mr. Swenszkowski even though they both stated to
police that they were at the D&W at 7:41am. Besides what Oakes filed in
his Statement of Facts for the Hearing which was fairly accurate of
Stinson's testimony, Mr Stinson testified that he did not check the
basement for the missing clerk. Curtis checks the basement after his
arrival. Testified that the only doors unlocked were those used by
customers which means the back, outside basement door was locked and the
double door and single door in the front were unlocked. Contrary to what
Oakes is trying to claim in the court of law. This seems to be among the
reasons he's giving for not believing that Tonya was given a confession by
Steen. His 'fact' about the doors is incorrect vs the trial testimony.
Interesting to note that if the inmates truly heard an accurate
"confession" from Gary then there should have been other customers who
reported the store unattended before 7:45am by Mr. Stinson. They testified
that Gary told them that he and his brother took Heidi from the store,
approximately 15 minutes one way, away from the store, Richard brought her
back, left but then returned to buy his cigarettes but she was already
gone. The inmates testimony was hogwash as 1) No one believes Heidi would
leave (willingly) the store unattended to simply "talk" to someone and 2)
There was a purchase for 2 packs of generic cigarettes on the cash
register tape. Surely may have made a difference if Mrs. Duell had
testified about all 15 or so transactions that morning instead of just the
last 3 or 4 that a competent investigator could have compared to the
witness statements.
Look at the DA's Timeline...First notice no mention of the register being
"turned on" at 4:06am as Mrs. Duell testified. Heidi and Brett's arrival
time should have been 5:06am with DST?? DA's time of arrival is 5:55am
after DST so should have been 4:55am turn on?? Why the 49 minute
discrepancy?
Next notice the disinterested witness who didn't know Richard, recognized
the van from sight and sound, saw it go by his residence at approximately
7:15am and go back by within a half hour later. Should have only taken
minutes?? That would make Richards cash out time many minutes before
7:42am?? Even considering if he did kidnap Heidi?? That witness did not
notice any speeding or erratic driving. Certainly not going by his
residence twice to "fit" the inmates testimony.
Next-Look at 8-8:30-Mr. Neville Sr. claims to have seen Richards van at
Gary's but the exact same time, Richards neighbor sees Richards van at his
own house...
Another thing to look at is 6:35am-Darlene Upcraft sees a rusty white van
at the D&W. So does that mean it was Richards or some one elses????? Well,
assuming the inmates were correct, it would have to be Richards, but how
would that fit with the transactions or no one reporting Heidi not being
there?? We KNOW from the police notes that Oakes filed that there were in
fact transactions very shortly after 6:35am. Mrs. Duell's mother,
co-owner, for one. So what are the possibilities about Mrs. Upcraft? 1)
the time as per Oakes is wrong 2)There was another rusty white van at the
D&W that morning.
Notice all the activity around 7:40am at the D&W-Mr. Wiltse makes
purchase, Mr. Swenszkowski arrives and makes a purchase, Richard
(supposedly arrives and makes a purchase), Mr. Stinson is there and looks
in the store for a missing clerk, other customers arrive and minutes later
flags Curtis. DOESN"T MAKE SENSE.
I know, I know, none of the Defense questioning or witnesses were believed
by the jurors that's why Gary was convicted.
Circumstantial case my ...What about this timeline drivel, Mr. Oakes,
makes LE 99.9% sure it was Richard and Gary that kidnapped Heidi? Just
curious if the 99.9% has been downgraded? "No link between Gary and Heidi"
per the FBI that detailed their surveillance efforts and performed the
forensic testing. If Dodd had a truly, just circumstantial case then why
was the brother who actually admitted to being at the store that morning
found Not Guilty?? Why was there no human bones in the furnace or soil
debris, or in Richards van or the carpet that was removed? Simply, Swiss
Cheese case. Frankly, a Swiss Cheese conviction is not Justice!!
Yes, Death, you, I, any one of us could win against the DA but for the
psychological games they played with this case...Prosecutorial misconduct,
massaging witnesses, incompetent investigation...A jury of peers from the
same small community where terrifying things like a young girl
disappearing doesn't happen!! The timeline is wrong and so is the
transaction tape from the register....The one piece of supposed factual
time and that register tape doesn't fit. Boy, would I love to know if Mrs.
Duell testified to the ENTIRE transaction tape in Richards trial.
The defense for Steen not being culpable is simply repulsive. Likewise is
the defense of Bohrer and Breckenridge's possible involvement know as
early as 1994. Do your job and stop discounting everything that doesn't
point to Gary. LE has received many leads about others' involvement since
as early as 2000 in this open missing persons case. There have got to be
some LE who aren't as dumb as a box of rocks and want to see justice
served!!
May 22/18
Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
The Death of C.S. and the corruption of an investigation that led to
an innocent man's life ruined.
I don't know as I have not read the trial transcript but would love to
know if Stinson testified at Gary's trial. We know Bivens did ( kind of )
but did they both see the same men, van, girl etc.? That should have made
two witnesses for the DA. But if Stinson didn't, why not? His story
doesn't make sense to me ( jmo ) but a conflicting testimony by him would
have thrown a monkey wrench into Dodd's case.
If Stinson did testify, I offer my apology but would still like to know
what he said under oath...if that even counts in this court filled with
kangaroos. Sorry but I have been over this 100 times and I just cannot get
it thru my thick head how your story of that morning makes any sense.
I certainly hope ( like a lot of ppl ) that DA Oakes gets his chance to
win this case. I think he will delay as long as possible instead of a
speedy trial so that he can PROVE Gary is guilty. Only problems I see are:
no one saw him there, Stinson's testimony will sink the prosecution and
get Stinson convicted in a later court...prison..yuck. Better come clean
because they are going to throw you under the bus. Descriptions by Bivens
does not match either brother, as they were both smaller than Heidi ( a
live, accurate comparison of 3 people ).
And what about Swenkowski's testimony, he said he held the door for
Richard and watched him get into his van ALONE..I REPEAT< ALONE and drive
away. No Heidi, no Gary.
It will be proven by a lawyer that Heidi was signed to be a CI, even if
she wasn't used as per the OCSD members. Except one thing Mr. Oakes one
deputy said he was there when she was signed to be a CI. How you gonna get
around that one? Then there are the ppl she told she was doing it.
Not a lawyer but why did Jenn's statement be branded HERE SAY if the
suspects told her that Heidi was in the van at her house that Jenn said
she never lived at??
I am not a lawyer but other than the technicalities of law, I really
believe I could convince a jury that it was impossible for this crime to
happen the way they said it did. He was convicted on " they must have had
something or they wouldn't have gotten this far"..per a original jury
member. If they had something, what was it? Wasn't an eye witness to
seeing the bros. take her. Jenn's interrogation's are full of lies, erased
phone messages and then she her self admitted that she did know what
happened. But in the paper weeks ago, Okaes said her testimony can't be
believed. Then why set up a taped phone call, interrogate her, give her a
poly that she failed, caught in lie after lie about where she lived, told
them.."after 20 years I still have to tell you that there were 2 vans?"
How could the OCSD investigators and Oakes just ignore this statement? But
believed her when she said that she lied on the phone call...sure knew a
lot for someone that made it all up.
Face it Jenn some one got to you. You got scared and the DA gave you
immunity even though he said you couldn't be believed?????
Do you see Mr. Oakes why I say I could convince a jury that Gary is
innocent....but I would not be allowed to convict any one that may have
been involved in a cover up....nope. THAT'S GONNA BE THE FBI'S PICNIC.
May 20-21/18
Mr. Christopher Bivens
Too bad Judge Clary didn’t let the Defense question him about the car
accident he had in October 1993 because then “We the People” may have
learned if it was a DWI that Judge McCarthy represented Bivens for that
caused Judge McCarthy to recuse himself from hearing Gary’s case.
After all “WE” have learned over the past 5 years about many of the
prosecution witnesses, some still believe the witnesses were/are credible?
Simply amazing!! Bet Oakes couldn’t convince a jury now that they are
credible.
Reply about Mr. Neville-
If one were to have refreshed their memory of the ENTIRE trial testimony
from Mr. Neville and Jr., they would have recalled that there was question
as to whether Mr. or Jr. was the one that went to the gas station the
morning of April 3, 1994. Fahey was prepared to call a witness who was
told by Jr. that it was he (Jr.) that went to the store and not Mr.
Neville. Why would they lie about who went to the store? Was it because
Jr. was in some legal trouble at the time?
Every other neighbor of Gary that testified could not identify a van that
they supposedly saw at Gary’s the morning of April 3, 1994 but also
testified that they had seen Richards van many times previously at Gary’s.
So why is that? Ms. Link did not identify Richards van at Gary’s until a
couple months before Gary’s trial. Speaking of Bivens, hmmm, the Cowen’s
who were Gary’s neighbor knew that Bivens was going to be testifying
before the Grand Jury against Gary in regards to Heidi’s disappearance.
“It’s a small world after all.” Wasn’t Mr. Cowen the one who was making
disparaging remarks about Gary to another neighbor?
Thank you “Manna from Heaven”. So, Wheeler, Yerdon, VanPatten, Dodd, Todd,
Nellis, any LE for that matter…how did you feel about Gary when you found
out he had assault on a police officer in his history? Not too many people
know about that because it wasn’t admitted during trial but I bet that
would cause LE to have tunnel vision and 99.9% sure of their guilt without
evidence that even tied both brothers to the disappearance.
To all the dummies who keep trying to say that Gary was some big drug
dealer, you do know that the FBI was surveilling the Thibodeau’s in April
1994? Just look in Oakes filing for the Hearing to see the details (which
can easily be posted if you’re skeptical). What was the FBI’s testimony
about Gary or Oswego County Sheriff’s testimony of evidence? Follow the
bouncy ball, dummy dumkins. Also, dummy dumkins, how do you think LE knew
that Richard washed his van at the car wash on April 28 or that Gary was
helping at the Nelsons’? Surely, if Gary was some big time drug dealer he
would have gotten caught going down state or to another state?
What was one of the questions Dodd asked the prospective jurors about a
kidnapping vehicle? Answer: they wouldn’t still be driving it around. Bet
those jurors were disqualified by Dodd because their answer didn’t fit his
narrative!!
*Too bad Oakes didn’t accidentally file the notes from any photo lineup
given to Bivens before Richard’s photo and Gary’s photo was plastered in
the news*
Praying to see Justice in my lifetime for Heidi’s and Gary’s families. And
that is just speaking of this case, not mentioning the other sheisty
happenings in OZ.
May 19/18
Let's just assume the Sheriffs are liars. The paperwork proves it. Two
days after Heidi vanishes they hault all searches claiming there was no
crime scene and that she may have hopped a plane. Out of the blue there's
a crime scene, two suspects with no link to the crime. It's called being
rail roaded all on lies. Bobby Wheeler has explaining to do. He is the
main reason this case went in the direction it has. Sad thing is, I'm sure
there are some good sheriff's, issue is the good ol boys from 94. But in
reality you can not feel sorry for any officer knowing all that's been
known and doing nothing right to fix it. One can pray Oakes is
disqualified and faces trouble. He should be arrested. What he has done
with the information he has been given is inhumane and down right
disgusting. I've spoken to several officers who think he deserves nothing
less than an arrest for obstruction of justice. Hearing Wescott says
Oswego is out to get her. If she thinks that. Everyone must be doing
something right. She's lucky she hasn't been tared and feathered. She
would deserve nothing less. And Rogers out in Rome threatening his gf, to
kill her LOL go figure right. Any one seen the scumbag Bohrer? Keep up the
good work people of OZ. Proud to know Oswego has citizens with integrity.
That are governed by jack asses with no dignity.
May 14/18
Oswego County ADA accused of driving
drunk, leaving crash scene resigns
http://cnycentral.com/news/local/oswego-county-ada-accused-of-driving-drunk-leaving-crash-scene
Today's Quote May 11/2018
Music can change the world
because it can change people.
Bono
Something strikes me as odd on that day that I can't quite articulate.
Mike Bohrer was questioned by LE about his brother, John, How was it
possible that LE knew then that John had a warrant for Wisconsin but they
couldn't find Mike's conviction of disorderly conduct in 1981 of trying to
force a young female into a vehicle?
Look at the date of the police report where John had a V&T in Oswego
County. That was about 2 months after the CI was lost and found in the D&W
parking lot.
Secondly, April 14 was the same day Wheeler "questioned" Dan Barney for
whom police notes show as "probably suspect".
Gary became prime suspect the very next day.
May 11/18
IMPROVING THE LOOK OF YOUR HOME, DON'T IT WILL COST YOU
FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When we purchased our home here in the city we made changes in the front
of the house to paint unpainted post and porch area added scrubs and
flower beds, looks great we were proud to be part of improving our
neighborhood, WHAT A MISTAKE!!!!!!!!!! just the improvements above raised
our assessment 9000 dollars. it said our taxes may not go up, but I'm
pretty sure that number is used to determine other taxes. We will now
remove our plantings and let the paint go and the porch rot, we have even
considered removing the siding on the front and side of our home to lower
our cost to live here.
May 7-8/18
personal plea to Mike Bohrer
Damm man. If you didn't really have anything to do with Heidi Allen's
disappearance or improper disposal of her remains, I HIGHLY suggest you go
to some authority (other than Oswego County) and tell what really happened
because, damm, you appear FAR more guilty than Gary Thidodeau ever was.
Right now, I'm 90% convinced that you, sir, are guilty and if you were to
face charges, at some point when the courts realize the egregious mistake
by the investigators, former ADA that prosecuted and current DA, I can
pretty much guarantee that if you choose the hard way and face legal
accountability, the only support you will have is from those also involved
and a lawyer. Give Heidi's family the answer that you would want had she
been your daughter. Someone will listen to you.
Just want you to come clean!!
May 1/18
School Board Election May 15, 2018
It is now 16 days before, you, as a resident of the Oswego City School
District, will cast your vote to place two people on the board. Just
remember that the two people who presently hold those seats supported
spending $60,000,000 foolishly on a project that wasn't needed. They also
reinstated all the positions they eliminated in their B.S. lying attempt
to reduce the budget. Although the entire board should all be removed, we
can only take out the ones that presently hold those seats and are up this
year.
They are spending our money like drunken sailors and it is important that
we put reasonable, budget minded, non-followers, to the board for the next
three years. We can not sustain the level of school taxes this board has
shoved up or noses. Lets start by removing the two current seats that are
up this year and do the same thing for the two elections until they have
all been removed. This board must be removed and if the new people put in
are not willing to reduce the budget, reduce the over bloated number of
teachers, reduce the benefits, and get back to what a school is for, then
vote them out as well.
This can only be accomplished if you get out in force and vote!
May 1/18
Re: Unbelievable
Greg should ask Purdy why she has 2 seperate mailing addresses on Rice
Road.
Re: Unbelievable
Darcy lease December 1992. Not 1993 as Greg stated. Darcy has 2 seperate
addresses on Rice Road parish new York. Must be she assumed no one would
find the second one. 7271 Rice Road which is an empty lot would that
explain her rice road mailings? Greg should ask her why she never let
anyone know about her other address. Was it really Walter living in a
camper or Darcy seeing as she stated they had no place to go in May of
1993. It's clear and obvious the landlord made it public information. He
NEVER lived with any of his tenants. Darcy has explaining to do. Her and
her ex both have 2 rice road addresses. Darcy' s emails circulate around
racing. Maybe she needs to explain herself a little more. Like what the
pole is on her receipt. Couldn't be a light pole to an empty piece of
property where maybe there was a camper parked, that not Walter was living
in but her and her former relation Rathbun? Can you say Perjury Darcy?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.syracuse.com/crime/index.ssf/2015/03/witness_
says_she_lived_in_rice_road_trailer_in_1994_when_heidi_allen_was_kidnapp.amp
read it. Greg did lie. It was not 93
she had the 5 month lease for. It's in evidence it was December of 92. She
even testified 92.
Greg should ask her if her n her old man back then were the ones living in
the camper at the end of rice road. Where they put in a telephone pole for
power. 1500 pole on her receipt. In 90's cost 1500 for a light pole to
produce power. Here's her other address. Walter rented that place only 6
month temporary lease. He would use it during the summer when he came home
from vacation. She's full of it. Linked to the racing world. Think about
who else is linked to the racing world. MURTAGH
May 1/18
Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Let's just look at common sense in this case. Can anyone really
believe the OCSD did the best they could when they ignored an over
whelming amount of loose ends. This is beyond criminal. They had a vast
amount of leads: Stinson, Bivens, Bohere, Jenn Wescott, the airport,
Swenkowski, Richard's van, Gary's property, taped phone call ( of course
denied as not credible ). Why did you do it then? Why bring Tonya up here
and then discredit her...to make your cover up stronger. No poly for
Tonya? Jenn failed hers and then told you wht you needed to here. 2
vans...she told you there were 2 vans and you ignored this? Why? Don't
answer, the public is sick of your lies. Are you not to investigate
leads???? Anyone in LE would have pushed JW harder. Were you afraid she
was going to spill the beans so much that you and the famous 3 were going
down. LIKE THE MAN IN OSWEGO COURT SAID IN 2014.." WHO DO YOU THINK YOU'RE
KIDDING OSWEGO." He also said "we" could have solved this is 2 weeks. I
wonder who "WE" are. The FBI? I ask anyone can you actually read this
crime and not believe there is a cover up? This case is so weak the Oakes,
if he has to go to trial and stall in hope that Gary passes away. Because
you don't have a shred of evidence to win this case. Lisa will destroy you
and all involved in this. A person told his brother that back in those
days that 2 deputies stopped him, found some coke, took the coke and let
him go. Meanwhile back at the airport in the early morning hours comes a
plane, seeking the county issued vehicles that are there waiting for it.
Just give Gary a chance and you'll see what this case is made of. Where's
the proof, where's Stinson, who saw Gary there. You couldn't even convict
Richard who admitted to being there. How many kidnappers call and tell
them they were there after they did commit the crime. Please, your lies
are laughable.
May 1/18
Oakes lying again.
"According to Tonya Priest he came in the back door." Greg do you ever get
tired of lying? Where in her statement does it ever say the back door?
Because what it says is "side door and he grabbed her from behind the
counter" do you not ever think before you speak? What law allows you to
add to actual statements? Here's the statement. The back doors on the
other side of the building and that's why you made that up, you bold faced
lied to the appeals judges. Do you not think they'll catch that
fabrication on your part? Greg, Lisa is dead on. She did not cherry pick
Bohrer. Nor did the FBI IN 1995 when they labeled him a person of
interest. But your department did cherry pick Gary Thibodeau.
April 28-29/18
Heidi Allen
Heidi Allen's sister said a court case won't help them find her sister?
Neither has accusing, arresting, trying and convicting a person without
physical evidence he committed the crime. Maybe the wrong guy is being
held accountable? Did you really think those 3 guys would admit in a court
of law to telling people that they did tell others they were involved? No
care in the world that the 3 plead the 5th during testimony and then
answered because they were given immunity for those questions?
So let me get this straight, if someone is given immunity for their
testimony they are presumed to be giving Truthful testimony? Just curious
because Sharon was given immunity but the jurors didn't believe anyhow and
Jennifer was given immunity, even though she was a convicted liar, but her
testimony is believed? Boy, were the jurors wrong about Sharon! Now THAT
is a double-standard! I guess it depends for which side the person is
"for" on whether their immunity testimony is believed. So what people are
saying is that Jennifer is believed when she claims to have told lies but
not believed during the unknown to her police wiretapped call nor believed
to have lied about the lie detector questions that showed deception?
Why is it so hard to wrap your head around that Steen, Bohrer and
Breckenridge may have taken Heidi and did what they told others and then
one or two of them removed Heidi's remains from the cabin floorboards and
then the remains were shipped to Canada? Bohrer may have been......thought
about moving the remains. They certainly had "opportunity" to remove them.
The guy who testified for the prosecution to building a "fort" when he was
a teenager said on the stand that part of the floor was concrete and part
wood.
*sarcasm* I thin k the community member in 1994 that publicly said they
thought Heidi was dead and would never be found is the true kidnapper. How
would he/she have known that so early on in the investigation?
Duh, Oakes, it isn't very difficult to wrap your head around how Gary said
things to the inmates about Heidi's disappearance when he was calling
home, having news articles read to him, the inmates eavesdropping his
phone calls and then asking him questions. You buds, Wheeler and Yerdon,
helped fill in the rest. A little good "coaching" from Dodd and there you
go!! Wrongful case study for future generations. You do know that Heidi's
disappearance was in the news daily for months after the disappearance AND
it was LE that the news was getting most of the quotes from. That was
until they had a gag order placed on them. Do tell WHY law enjokement had
a gag order placed against them.
April 28-29/18
Re: Lisa Buske
Auntie says Heidi was a bad girl. Or is auntie lying?
http://www.syracuse.com/crime/index.ssf/2016/10/before_1994_kidnapping_
heidi_allen_told_friend_about_working_as_a_drug_informant.html
New light shed on a mystery in 1994 Heidi Allen kidnapping
"Among the evidence that Allen worked as an informant came from her own
family. Her aunt, Martha Sturtz, told sheriff's investigators in a
recorded interview last year that Allen started providing information to
sheriff's investigators after she got into trouble at the age of 15.
Sheriff's deputies had shown up at a drinking party Allen was attending,
Sturtz said. Allen had left a child she was babysitting alone in a car,
and was in trouble with the police, Sturtz said.
Sturtz' husband, Russell Sturtz, contacted the sheriff's office about
having Allen provide information to them in exchange for Allen facing only
a person-in-need-of-supervision petition in family court instead of more
serious charges, Martha Sturtz told investigators."
April 28-29/18
Another lie.
Replay Greg's ten minutes of fame from appeals. He said Darcy supplied a
93 lease from December. Wrong Greg. Straight from Purdy mouth during
testimony. "
Purdy signed a lease to rent the trailer from Deb Vecchio in December 1992
for five months, Purdy said. Vecchio's father, Walter Rice, owned the
trailer and property."
April 28-29/18
Re: Greg Oakes performance at the Court of Appeals April 26 2018
From the OCSD's own files it says Jenn lived on Rice Road
Nothing that I know of was said about Purdy's wedding shower was at that
address and mailing something from Parish means nothing.
The only mail I heard mentioned was some mail order catalog. Purdy's
wedding certificate from the church didn’t say her address.
Oakes tried to say that James Steen told Tonya Priest, that Heidi was
taken out the back door. Not true! Look at my picture below of the "back
Door"
What was said was the side door. Two doors on the front side of the D&W,
see my picture below.
Oakes also stated that nothing was out of place at the D&W after Heidi
went missing, he even said not even a newspaper was out of place, wrong
again Greg, OCSD even took a picture of the newspaper on the floor the day
of the "kidnapping".
By the way Oakes, Darcy Purdy being a legal secretary in law office does
nothing to add to her credibility, she's been proven to be a liar, many
times over.
GREG YOU LIED AND LIED AND LIED! EVEN THE PUBLIC KNOWS, YOU THINK THE
JUDGES ARE THAT STUPID?
i GIVE YOU AN F, FOR YOUR PERFORMANCE THURSDAY!
April 28-29/18
Lisa Buske
Did Lisa thake the bus to the Appeals Court in Albany or did she drive the
new car she bought with the money form the Heidi Allen Center?????????????
April 28-29/18
Barlows Drug Dealers
Christman worked for Jim Bell but that is no surprise since so many of
Bells former employees had drug related history. Can anyone say Dolittle
he was another one that worked for Bell when he wasn’t screwing the wife
and daughter of one of the city cops. At the time he was one of the
biggest dealers in the city. He must have left town or Barlow would have
made him a department head by now.
April 27/18
Answer question Lisa
I about dropped my coffee this morning reading that. How many more people
Lisa have to come forward before you accept one of them? Lisa yes where is
the reward money? Many know where it went, but many are sure you'll never
answer that. Yes why did you lie about your sister? You make no sense
none. You actually looked like a fool in the last article. Let's be frank
Lisa is you really believed Gary Thibodeau was guilty you wouldn't be
saying atleast one person out there knows.
April 27/18
Barlow and background check!
Love how Barlow said they did the proper background check on the two DPW
workers. Smith worked for the City a couple years ago and was fired and
went to rehab! What is the big deal with Kells at the McCrobie building it
is a City owned building so what is the problem with him being their?
April 27/18
DPW arrests
You are right Mayor. The tax payers do not deserve this. We do not deserve
someone like Tom Kells in charge of the DPW. We do not deserve the black
eye the inexperienced landlord has put on this city. We do not deserve the
hiring of his cronies to do his dirty work. Putting non qualified people
such as C.M and E. B. in key positions with no experience. It's true,a new
Dock Master? What Marine experience does Broadwell's wife bring? Below is
a general description of the job qualifications of a Dock Master taken
from a job search website.
Qualifications
A dockmaster should have general seamanship knowledge that includes
boating right-of-way rules, basic navigation and inshore and offshore
mooring techniques. This person must also have a solid understanding of
marina operations. She could hold a degree in marine management or
certifications, such as the Certified Marine Manager (CMM) or a Marina
Operations Certificate.
Kells's hiring practise is none other than who he likes. Experience and
meeting certain skill and job requirements are not in his vocabulary and
putting his hand picked buddies in key positions only spells disaster.
So yes, the tax payers do not deserve what you are letting happen under
your watch Mayor. You can sugar coat and beautify the city all you want.
It's what you are letting go on behind closed doors is what will bring
this city down.
April 27/18
Gary Thibodeau
Originally scheduled for ten minutes each. Ten for Lisa and ten for Joakes.
Well..well..appeals just bumped them up to the max of 30 minutes each.
Think you can keep your story straight Greg getting drilled with questions
you can't answer. Many of us doubt it.
April 26/18
Death to common sense reply
You have that wrong Jenns son pushed the button the night she was taped.
Read the transcript. Jennifer clearly says I was trying to get my phone
from my son. It's on page one. No one ever said the night before. If you
read the entire transcript she explains her other son had her phone til
late the night prior as he went to a school dance.
April 26/18
Re: Dealing from a City Truck
Going start off with people writing into this site tried telling you
so....
Their were two busted. One was none other than Kells's girlfriends
brother. How you going to brush this one off Kells? Barlow? So why has the
drug testing stopped at the DPW? It will be in the paper soon enough.
Proof of the dealings with kells and company. How many more of HIS hires
are dealing/using? Oh guess there is a new "Dock Master" hired. Guess who?
Hint, it's the wife of a local legislator and the owner of two hotels on
the river.....there is no corruption in city hall or the dpw now is there?
All of his hires need to pee in a cup! Him included! Karma is beginning!
April 26/18
Two Oswego DPW workers accused of having drugs while on the job
http://cnycentral.com/news/local/two-oswego-dpw-workers-accused-of-having-drugs-while-on-the-job
April 26/18
Dealing From A City Truck
Its not like they had kilos of the stuff and they weren’t dealing just
making deliveries and pickups for there bosses in City Hall and the DPW.
April 26/18
Drugs in City Vehicles
Good to see that Kell's is hiring highly quality people in the DPW that
are using city trucks as their delivery system to their drug customers.
Seems there should be mandatory drug testing for these new hires. Heard it
was Kell's girlfriend's brother. Funny how she was promoted to Kell's
right hand girl, was given a new pick-up truck to wonder around the city
in, and then Kell's hired her drug head brother.
The DPW used to be a highly revered and trusted department that was
excellent at their jobs, and since Kell's and Barlow showed up, this
department is in the shitter, as is the city. Sad to see a very efficient
city department go to hell because of the wrong people being put in
positions of power. Barlow is doing the same thing with the purchasing
department...eliminating a high quality employee like Mike Riley, to let
Onondaga County take over the Purchasing function for the city of Oswego,
is a huge mistake.
Interesting that Kell's girlfriend has right hand girl riding around in
the new city pick-up truck with her? Someone said she had some connection
to S Broadwell??? Go figure.
April 26/18
“Barlow said this type of behavior does not reflect the work ethic of
the over 60 employees with the DPW.”
Correct mayor little willey.
It only reflects the dpw workers
you hired.
April 26/18
Two guys get busted for a small amount of crack and some pills big
deal.
They should take a drug sniffing dog to Barlows and Kells office and see
what they find there.
April 26/18
DPW arrests
I wonder how this will be swept under the Barlow/Kells blanket. How
can they not know he was using? Just look at him. What were they doing at
McD's at 10 when break is at 9 :15 or so. Who was monitoring the GPS on
this truck or was it one of the trucks that Kells had it removed.
Cristmans sister is a big foreman/woman, were they working under her? How
long has this been going on? Barlow is just as guilty because he lets
Kells do what ever he want, hire whoever HE wants and isn't made to follow
procedures. Maybe Kells shouldn't be spending so much time hanging out at
the McCrobie building. can't hide forever tommy boy. Karma has dealt her
first hand…
April 26/18
Follow The Money
From two guys in a truck > Kells > Barlow > Barclay family.
April 26/18
Today's Quote April 25/2018
No man thinks there is much ado
about nothing when the ado is about himself.
Anthony Trollope
Dealing From A City Truck
Three unmarked cars came into the DPW this morning where a quantity of
drugs was found in a city truck. Two of Mayor Billy Barlow’s new hires
were arrested.
April 25/18
Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Let's see what the OCSD FAILED to do:
Did they check Jenn Wescott's phone to see if Jenn's kid did indeed push
Tonya's phone button the nite before it was tapped?
Did they check with Bohere, Steen's and Roger's neighbors to see if they
heard anything that morning?
Did they check with the manager of the airport after he took action?
Did they stake out the airport for traffic at 4am as reported by the ppl
who lived near there?
Did they interview the deputy that said he was there and heard that Heidi
was a CI?
Did they follow up ( with the DA at that time ) about a deputy allegedly
lying on the witness stand?
Did they question Stinson, Swenkowski and Bivens about seeing or not
seeing anyone at the store? This is a big one.
Did they put the brothers in a line up?
Did they push Jenn Westcott in that interrogation or arrest here for
knowing about it etc. whatever law there may be?
Did they arrest Jenn after a near confession and admitting to knowing what
happened?
Did they follow up after the knew Jenn lied about knowing the "three" and
lying about living on a certain road?
Did they follow up on Jenn and Roger's Florida trip even though Jenn said
she didn't know him?
Did they take a statement from a person who contacted them about seeing a
blue van driving fast etc? No they didn't.
Did they check on the snitches statements to see if they were even true?
NOPE!
Did they follow Gary to MA even after they stacked out his house on April
4,5,6? No they did not? But somehow knew he dumped Heidi's body
there...but never went there to check.
Did they ask Bivens, Stinson and Swenkowski to take a poly? Swenkowski is
an innocent man and did not lie. But they did poly Richard 4
times...(hoping OCSD?)
As I said before this crime was impossible to happen the way they said it
did. Nothing makes sense and as trained cops and investigators you have
FAILED in this cover up and you know it. Only hope the FBI gets involved.
And Moe, retiring won't save you from an investigation..hoping for Statute
of Limitations.....not gonna happen. You guys left so many loose ends,
mistakes, lies and mis directions.
HOW DOES IT FEEL TO KNOW YOU ARE CLOSE TO GOING TO PRISON? LET'S SEE HOW
THICK THAT BLUE LINE IS. If yo don't think that someone involved isn't
going to rat on you...think again. First come first served.
April 25/18
City Hall Corruption...Follow the Money
The Community Development Office has been moved out of the Conway Building
(the police station) and are now renting space at 44E Bridge Street. This
building is owned by Pathfinder Bank, and how surprising that Barlow chose
that location for Rudick to move the Community Development Department to.
Surprise, Scheindiner CEO of the bank, donated $2,400 to Barlows campaign.
Rudick also hired Sue Deary's daughter for that department as well; of
coarse there is no nepotism involved there. Might want to look at the
names of some of the others that are employed there. You would shocked!
What is the rent costing us?
In this move, Rental assistance also had to move and is now renting space
at 159 Liberty, and is now headed by, now wait for it, Nathan Emmons,
Barlows biggest suck-up boy when Nathan was a make-believe councilor. He
is now a make-believe legislator. Now, don't try to find 159 Liberty
Street because it doesn't really exist, as it is really 154 W Mohawk
Street and is owned by Litatro Holdings LLC. Now, who is Litatro Holding
LLC? That would be Atom Avery's shell company and Avery olny donated
$2,000 to Barlow's campaign. What is the rent on this building?
Corruption in city hall is like a cancer and is spreading. I thought this
city was done with corrupt people in political office, but it just keeps
gong on and Oswego just keeps electing them. These guys make Gosek look
like a saint, and that is saying something. The people of Oswego will keep
their heads buried in the sand and when this house of cards falls, they
will all say " How could that have happened again"?
April 23-24/18
THE SNITCHES LAFOND, MCDONALD, & BALDASORO
Keith W Lafond MA 11-20-1963 02-16-1995 31.3
BORN: November 20, 1963 - DIED: February 16, 1995 .. Lived for about 31.3
Years
This is the one nicknamed "Chicken", the one hand washes the other person,
so they didn't have him come to testify.
James E. McDonald
February 15, 1963 ~ July 8, 2015 (age 52)
James E. McDonald of Winthrop passed away at the Eatpointe Nursing and
Rehabilitation Center in Chelsea of July 8, 2015 after a prolonged
illness. He was 52 years old. Born in Winthrop he was the beloved son of
Catherine (McMann) and Joseph McDonald. A lifelong resident of Winthrop,
he was a graduate of Winthrop High School. He was employed for many years
as a painter and was a member of the Winthrop Lodge of Elks.
He was the loving father of Mary McDonald of Nashua, New Hampshire,
Catherine McDonald and Jamie McDonald both of Manchester, New Hampshire.
He was the beloved brother of John McDonald, of Winthrop, Robert McDonald
of Connecticut, Thomas McDonald of Nashua, New Hampshire and Joseph
McDonald of Winthrop.
Family and friends are cordially invited to attend the visitation from the
funeral home on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 from 4:00 to 7:00 PM. A funeral
service will be held in the funeral home at 7:00 PM the same evening.
http://www.syracuse.com/crime/index.ssf/2015/10/key_witness_changes_
story_about_what_thibodeau_said_in_jail_about_heidi_allen_ki.html
Key witness in Heidi Allen kidnapping changes story about what Thibodeau
told him in jail
"For the first time, Baldasaro said in the interview that he got the
information about the shovel from another inmate, not Thibodeau, at the
Worcester House of Corrections. In the interview with Syracuse.com,
Baldasaro said he likely heard that from inmate James McDonald.
"I never heard that" from Thibodeau, Baldasaro said. "Jimmy might've been
the one who brought up the shovel and I just heard it from Jimmy. I'm
pretty sure Jimmy was the one who said something about a shovel."
"That's not what Baldasaro testified to in June 1995. He said he heard
about the shovel directly from Thibodeau when Baldasaro asked how Allen
had died.
Thibodeau "told me her head had been bashed in with a shovel and she was
mutilated," Baldasaro said, according to a transcript of the trial.
By the end of the interview with Syracuse.com, Baldasaro insisted that
everything he said in the 1995 trial was accurate."
SO OAKES, TWO APPEAR TO BE DEAD, AND THE THIRD CAN'T KEEP HIS STORIES
STRAIGHT! MORE LIES!
April 23-24/18
From what
little I read in this statement, a jailhouse felon from a nearby cell does
not like Gary based upon the fact that he likes to smoke dope and have
kinky sex with his girlfriend who is over the age of consent and from this
Don Dodd somehow extrapolates guilt in the Heidi Allen case. At that point
in time half the population of Ozwego County, DAs included, were smoking
some kind of dope and getting high and having kinky sex with everything
(man, woman, child, male and female) from 14-70 year-olds. In this same
time period several members of Dodds District Attorneys office were using
and selling drugs. They were embezzling from clients and plotting murder.
This is not bullshit I have seen proof.
Today's Quote April 22/2018
Good judgment comes from
experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment.
Will Rogers
Oswego Rotting Under Barlow Administration
Has anyone noticed all of the infrastructure improvements under the Barlow
administration? The influx of new business and an increased tax base?
Young professionals choosing Oswego as their home? An increase in tourism?
(think: 1.5 million dollar cannons on display and then look at the
condition of the one in front of city hall now) Transparency and
accountability to the resident taxpayers? A HUD inspector who isn't a
rubber-stamper for the slumlords that own this town? (He will be held
accountable 1st in a court of law when the State investigates the next
tenant death in a slumlord dwelling that should have been condemned NOT
approved. After he's indicted he'll be Oswego's most famous whistle
blower)
Phony property tax valuations and manipulations, either grossly over or
undervalued, depending on who owns the property. Way too much graft for
this City to finance. Barlow early in his administration made a show of
getting "tough" on slumlords (his word) Reality is the slumlords are
Billy's best friends forever.
April 22/18
City Hall Corruption...Follow the Money
One has to wonder how the proposed condo located at the intersection of
West 1st St and Bridge Street (City of Oswego) could be eligible for
$700,000 in grant money for Avery? The grant proposals for the money
coming from the state and the awards were listed well over a year ago.
Avery purchases the old Global Buffet Building a few months ago and is now
approved for $700,000 in grant money over night. Could the secret meeting
in the Mayors office have anything to do with promises made for that
purchase, if grant money approval was given in advance of the purchase?
Then, there is the question, who in their right mind would want to live on
the busiest and noisiest intersection in the city of Oswego. Where will
the parking be and has a parking plan been approved by planning board?
Certainly the Planning Board will give their approval regardless if it
meets the codes or not. Standard procedure for them
Why don't we just follow the theoretical money trail and let the
corruption speak for itself. The following contributions were made to the
Barlow campaign and who benefited from them.
Bell...$350..got the job as head of Code Enforcement, allowing him to
ignore building permits for certain people, asbestos inspections and
dumping permits in the middle of the city and on certain personal
property. Put windows in his car wash without building permit.
Reynolds...$200..got to keep his job as Assistant City Attorney
Barlow family..$2,400..had thousands of dollars( estimate of $25,000 in
labor and materials) in new sidewalks and new driveway apron. Did this in
cahoots with Gosek, 5th ward Councilor.
Scheindiner..$2,000..One might want to inquire where Avery got his loan?
Broadwell...$1,500..Got grant for $1,000,000 for water slide.
Kells...$5,000..Got job as DPW Commissioner, $75,000 plus Benefits,
selling city lumber illegally, removing city property which he thinks it
is his, hired son for mowing contract, hired girlfriend and gave her new
city truck to drive and not following city policy on other hires..so much
more on this guy to come.
Avery..$1,000...needs no explanation...
Pauldine...$5,000..Got the old Cahill Building for much less than value,
then got $1,000,000 grant for the Cahill Bld and that dump on the corner
of W Bridge. Was in cahoots with Gosek Sr.and Turner when they gave him a
contract for $10,000 a year of taxpayers money to use the hallway in his
Canal Commons. Now he has the old YMCA Bld and his buddy Bell is turning a
blind eye as head of code enforcement regarding the illegal activities on
that building.
Caraccioli...$500...Got City Attorney Job, Barlow had it made full time
with a raise and full benefits, Caraccioli is actually running the city as
little boy Barlow doesn't have a clue. There is more to this saga, but for
a latter date.
Corradino...$198...Barlow pushed to have him made council president...
Stepien...$750...Got contract for the city web site with his group called
Step One Creative LLC.. he used to work for Schiediner at the bank....
Also got contract with Port throuh this contact. gets thousands a year on
this deal.
Holman...$250....was appointed by or. Barlow to be chair of the City
Ethics Board...seems a bit unethical.
As we move along looking at the corruption of this city, the next look
will be at the Community Development Department and the people who are
working there. Nepotism and political greed and the extraordinary cost of
that department, along with the questionable grants and what they are used
for. Also a look at the discrimination coming from the Section 8 Rental
assistance program.
More to come......
April 22/18
Lame Duck Drug Story!!
I was just going over Wescott's interrogations and her lie detector video.
I agree the lame story about drugs with the Thibodeau's, is useless, after
watching her video and she blames the Thibodeau's about where she was
buying her drugs she says even after Thibodeau was interrogated she
continued to buy drugs off him, right Wescott, seeing as they were staking
out Gary's home the night Heidi vanished and if any one has any knowledge
of any interrogation with Gary Thibodeau post it here, because there from
the records does not seem to be one. I wonder how she bought drugs all the
way through when he was in Massachusetts the entire summer of 1994. Also I
would love for her to explain if he was such a monstrous drug dealer, why
is it when his property was searched on two separate occasions and why
they never found a drop of drugs. Why is it he and Sharon would need help
from social services if he was rolling in the dough off drug money. I have
to admit, I to thought maybe if he wasn't involved in the kidnapping maybe
it was the drugs but to look at all the facts there isn't even a drop of
any drug's collected off Gary's property during either arrest or search.
Lame duck drug story Wescott and how many trips did you have to take to
Massachusetts to get drugs from the jail in which Gary was being held at?
I agree one week til' Gary's appeals and I hear it is not going to go the
way she or they hope it will. Tick tock your damn clock's are almost out
of time. You all best pray for a "Manna from Heaven" to save your "NOT"
sorry lying asses!!
April 20/18
Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
To "reply to all"
You don't have to give names, but is what you are telling us about Stinson
etc. the truth? And that many others have been interrogated?
I hope so but if they are using this as a cover up like the Jenn W.
interrogation then it's a waste of time...;because I still believe they
had enough to arrest her on something connected to this crime...BUT WHY
DIDN'T THEY?
April 9/18
Today's Quote April 8/2018
The day the sign went
up on Hank Babcock Blv. people were asking, who the hell is that.
Thirty years from now thousands will still remember Chet Fantom.
LIFE AIN’T FAIR
I can already hear the bagpipes and see the firehouse flag at half mast as
the denizens of Ozwego bemoan the loss of Hanky “Panky” Babcock one of
biggest bloodsuckers to draw a breath within the city limits. Among the
many accomplishments you will not read in his obituary was his
participation in the robbing of rent deposits from the residents of
Hamilton Homes so the board could pay the salaries of Jim Cloonan and John
Gosek’s idiot son who’s jobs consisted of doing as little as possible. For
91 years Hanky did little more than take up space and breath the air that
might have been better used to fill turd shaped balloons.
There are fewer and fewer good people on this earth let alone the city of
Ozwego. On April 6, 2018 their numbers were diminished by one, Chet Fantom.
I knew him from the time he was the new kid at Raby's until he became the
slightly rotund old guy with the gray hair. He always had a smile and a
sense of humor and never said a bad word about anyone, something I never
quite mastered. Going the extra mile to help someone was just his way.
There is kind of an unspoken language among cancer survivors.
Conversations usually start with how are you doing or how you are feeling.
They might exchange statistics about blood counts or treatments but mostly
it is reading between the lines, or observations about things like hair
loss, weight loss, skin color or attitude. When you have been in those
shoes you have a pretty good idea what is really going on inside the other
person.
The last time I saw Chet was March 16th. He was feeling OK. His color was
not so good but had not been for some time. The radiation treatments for
his Leukemia had taken their toll on his kidneys and he was now on
dialysis. We talked about the recent passing of Ted Raby and his sister
Roberta, which I had only recently heard of. His smile and humor were
still intact and if he knew he was near the end he hid it well and I did
not see it.
Chet was a good man and
his passing will leave a void that will not soon be filled.
If life was fair Chet
would have lived to be 91 and Babcock would have been stillborn.
Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
To the Gary supporters:
All you need to solve this case is
1. Why didn't Stinson see Richard, Swnkowski or Bivens if he was there
before and after the crime?
2. Why didn't Bivens see Stinson there?
3. Why would Swenkowski lie about seeing Richard and seeing him leave
alone?..He didn't lie, someone else did.
April 6/18
Heidi
I do not know who knows about Heidi dating the sheriff. Its always been a
rumor. Never confirmed. Nor did I know he was questioned.
April 6/18
Jenn Wescott recorded phone call with Tonya Priest
Jennifer Wescott said many telling things in the background that many
didn't hear, because you have to listen closely.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPjO5L0L_Ck&t=36s
Listen closely at the below
listed times. You may have to listen a few times to catch it, but all can
be heard.
@1 minute and 3 seconds, Tonya Priest: "Why did they even do this?"
Jennifer Wescott: "It was for the cocaine"
@1 minute and 16 seconds, Jennifer Wescott, "I couldn't get them to go."
@4 minutes and 47 seconds, Jennifer Wescott. "Animals, God Almighty."
I'd say Jennifer knows a lot more about Heidi Allen's kidnapping.
April 6/18
Maybe these 2
Photo dated 2015 maybe, just maybe these two could tell you more about the
officers relations with Heidi Allen. Everyone knew and knows. Its not a
secret. But these two obviously have a secret. Nothing like meeting up in
the middle of the Thibodeau case and getting their stories straight.
Murtaghs sister has a secret. Must be sex, drugs and handcuffs keeps ocsd
at bay.
April 6/18
Gary Thibodeau
Gary Thibodeau cocaine dealing. That's laughable. No traffic in and out of
his home, confirmed by his neighbors, two huge searches on his property in
94 no drugs, no large amounts of money, no nothing was ever found on him
during his arrests or on his property. For a man dealing huge quantities
of cocaine he sure as hell hid the stash well. So well, the OCSD had
nothing at all to support that theory. "They" are posting Heidis remains
were found in some gravel pit. Upon Gary's arrest they searched a gravel
pit 30 miles from his home. Bet your ass if they ever found anything in
any way. It would have been used during the 95 trial. "If no one talks,
everyone walks," the new slogan. To bad many already are talking. Heidis
cop friend may want to understand one thing. There's a fine line between
good cop and criminal and he's a damn criminal. Whatcha gonna do when they
come for you, let me guess blame Gary Thibodeau. You are all just....
April 6/18
re:H.Allen Murder
News to me that Brett was a cop...unless she did have a cop bf on the dl.
If you read ALL documents available, you would have read during trial that
Brett assaulted an ex-gf. You would have also read his testimony about
getting to the D&W at 5:55am but the first register transaction-being
turned on-was at 4:06am. How can that be?
Next, Heidi was not "used" in any criminal investigation. That's after
months and months and years of the family and Dodd saying she wasn't an
informant. Dodd even went so far as to tell Judge Brandt that Sergeant
Lortie was mistaken when he wrote the report on April 24, 1994 of Heidi
being "signed up".
You lost me at "Gary was target of cocaine investigation....". If that was
true, why wasn't that used to bolster the crook killing informant angle by
the prosecution. Seems like a pretty cut and dry motive as compared to
what Dodd and Oakes have come up with. LE did go with the drug trafficker
angle but even that has now been kiboshed with the MA police report Oakes
filed and with the Fact that Gary got time served for the warrant out of
MA.
p.s. I think your theory is wrong and doesn't fit the facts.
April 6/18
Heidi Allen Anniversary
Today's the Anniversary of Heidi disappearance. The sad thing is her
sister not supporting finding the real truth. If she did she may actually
find Heidi. She was also asked to join in the Steve Wilkos show. She was
asked herself to be a direct part of the testing. She declined and
informed Steve Wilkos she would press charges on them if they called her
again and hung up on them. She has stated on the hope for Heidi wall it's
for supporters only who have nice things to say. If you scroll all the way
back as far as you can go. There is no posts reflecting anything but
undying support and hope for missing Heidi Allen. Many citizens are
supporters of both Heidi Allen and Gary Thibodeau. But many are not
supporters of her sister or her beliefs in the Thibodeau case. She
constantly says "you just needed to be in that court room." Well, many
citizens were, including a multitude of reporters whom heard the very same
things she, her self has, whom stood firm then and still stand firm today
on the fact the "Thibodeaus were not the monsters who committed this
crime." Not even her entire family believes the things Mrs. Buske does.
She seems to be supporting the bogus investigation that has not brought
her one step closer to finding Heidi. "It's easier to fool someone than it
is to convince them they have been fooled." That statement is a clear
reflection of Mrs. Buske. Her father on the other hand made a phone call
four years ago, he wanted to know if one man was named. It wasn't either
Thibodeau he asked about. The onion once wrote about Lisa Buske claimimg
she and her family were threatened. If so, may God forgive Mrs. Buske for
not having the courage to come forward and leading many astray out of
fear. God granted the real truth will come forward for Heidis father and
may Mrs. Buske realize then she's been greatly fooled. May Heidis remains
be brought home to rest. For if anyone deserves peace it is missing Heidi
Allen.
April 4-5/18
H.Allen Murder
after reading ALL the available material i believe that one major suspect
was never even considered and needs a much closer examination. i'm talking
about the COP/ boyfriend. he had the ONLY possible motive,in my opinion.
follow this: Allen is "drug informant" Gary is target of cocaine
investigation. cop is dirty. Allen finds out and is too honest.period. Cop
has MOST to lose.
April 4-5/18
H.Allen Murder 2
P.S.can anyone tell us where this cop/boyfriend was immediately after
Allen disappeared? did he have an "alibi" that he was too eager to use?
why did he distance himself from the investigation/ shouldn't he have been
the MOST concerned? did he avoid "insinuating" himself into the
investigation because,being a cop, he knew that that's what the killers
do?
April 4-5/18
Gary's case
https://youtu.be/pwNbewrBOks
Hewitt films just cut loose w a
documentary on Gary's case.
F*CK OFF OCSD
April 4-5/18
Steve Wilcos
Richard and Tonya pass polygraphs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoWOOi7Z15A
Oswego County Manages To Steal The Headlines From The Victims In
Parkland Florida
woman accused of stealing from Parkland school shooting memorial
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2018/03/oswego_county_woman_
accused_of_stealing_from_florida_school_shooting_memorial.html
March 27/18
From Gary to All of you
I hope all of you. Whom have stolen another man's life. Face karma never
seen before.
March 27/18
Moe Todd
He is conveniently retiring just before the Heidi Allen case is about to
bust wide open.
Now he will have more time to piss away his money on lottery tickets and
Turningstone.
His gambling habit must cost at least fifth thousand a year.
March 23-24/18
Wheeler
This questions to Robert Wheeler. If you weren't a part of this b.s. case.
Why then did you run from Investigator Haumamn and put yourself behind
locked doors, so he couldn't question you. Upon fleeing you said. I'll
quote you "You people want to put me in prison " don't you think you
belong there? Bohrer speaks of you in his writings. He said you were
showing cocaine symptoms on the stand and that Wheelers business was no
good anymore. What business do you have with Bohrer? Cocaine? Is that why
Bohrer knew you and called the sheriff's back then screaming "I know what
happened to Heidi call Bobby Wheeler." We all know Bobby all about you.
Your little b.s. in this case. Thank your buddy Bohrer that may be why
"you think you people want to put you in prison." Not any fun is it. When
the shoes on the right foot. Imagine Mr. Wheeler the Thibodeaus felt just
as you do. Terrified. But theirs was for just cause. Everyone knows your
dirty as hell. I'm sure Rainy could confirm a lot more of your back ground
should we send them her way? Seeing as you messed w her life also. I think
you'd deserve that much. Ooops didn't think we knew who she was. We sure
as hell do. How many lives have you destroyed on your lies? Can you count
them on your fingers and toes? I think not. You sir deserve a nice little
cell right along side Steen. No conscience, no integrity and no dignity
your cell will be in hell where you truly belong. Cause in the end you'll
face your maker. You think it's bad here. You haven't seen anything yet.
If I were you Mr wheeler. Id start wheeling and dealing. Because Steve
Wilco is about to rock OZ and he is coming for all of you. The people he's
tied to are going to put you in prison along side your little goons.
Clocks ticking Wheeler the hunt for Bohrer has begun.
March 16/18
Oakes
Interesting! Most of his defense arguments against Bohrer, Steen and Breckenridge would suite Gary Thibodeau. Is Defense not challenging enough? Would he rather get the adrenalin rush from putting together lies and twisting the facts to win? Or is he a pawn that can’t think for himself?
“repeated lies don’t make it true” That’s the most hypocritical quote from your legal position. What lies have you, personally, told that you claim is the Truth? Some have already been public.
You signed off on those filings/briefings so I hope you get the extreme wrath of Justice when the ‘legal system’ catches on to your blatant lies in legal documents.
Not a personal pleasure at your eventual downfall, but for Justice’s sake. Then, sadly that it happened in the first place, Gary can be added to the long list of exonerees of false convictions due to prosecutorial misconduct and biased investigations happening all over the country. #freegary Kudos to ALL who stand up against the corruption in OZ.
March 16/18
Gary "The Innocent" Thibodeau
Just read the prosecution brief for the Appeal dated March 2018… https://www.nycourts.gov/ctapps/courtpass/Public_search.aspx
You claim that Mr. Neville Sr’s testimony bolsters Mr. Fabian’s. PPfft. And what did we find out when the Defense questioned him during trial?.....That Mr. Neville Sr. was NOT the one who drove to the store the morning of April 3, 1994. In Fact, it was Neville Jr. who drove to the store. Wasn’t Jr. the one who called a lead about a weird phone call he received at his residence about where Heidi may have been and he didn’t recognize the callers voice? What is up with that? Did Law enforcement even investigate his lead and didn’t the jurors think anything fishy was going on? Also, wasn’t Neville Jr. in trouble with the law at the time of Heidi’s disappearance?
Yuuup..”the Da must have had something to get that far” but it surely didn’t become apparent, or PROVEN, if you will, in the Court of Law. law enforcement and the DA's office had months and months long media campaign to taint the public about whomever they accused. Not to mention the lies and dastardly games played with the Grand Jury. Yuuup…was a circumstantial case but the evidence DID NOT fit the twisted Facts.
-Real Fact-“no morphological details that suggest human remains” in the furnace debris. Twisted Fact-there were bone fragments in the furnace that 'could' have been Heidi.
-Real Fact-not one of 6 cadaver dogs indicated human remains on Gary’s property. No remains found after 2, that’s 2, searches of Gary’s property. Twisted Fact-The inmates guessed/surmised/theorized that Heidi was burned and buried on Gary’s property because the outside burn barrel was seized during the first property search while Gary was in the MA jail.
-Real Fact-Richard’s van was extensively searched and samples sent to the FBI lab on April 9, 1994 with no indication that Heidi was ‘ever’ in the van. Twisted Fact-Richard’s van was seen at a car wash on April 26, 1994.
-Real Fact-piece of carpet was missing from Richards van between April 9 and 26 which was found, determined to be the missing piece from the van, tested for DNA and revealed canine blood. Twisted Fact-the “rolled object” that a witness reported supposedly seeing the brothers carrying into the woods ‘could’ have had Heidi in it.
-Real Fact- Gary had 2 witnesses plus his (future) wife that gave alibis for April 2 and April 3, in addition to Richards albis. Twisted Fact-A bartender (who was also in trouble with the LAW) claims to have positively seen the brothers at a bar but told her boss she didn’t know the men who were in the bar on April 2.
-Real Fact-Gary and Sharon were in Oswego, NY between April 3-5, 1994 as evidenced by OCSD noting Caddy at residence in the evening of April 3 and receipts from the Oswego area during April 3-5. Sharon’s perjury charge for lying about their whereabouts on April 3-5 was DISMISSED. Sharon was acquitted for lying about where Gary was on April 3, 1994. Gary’s Caddy was searched in 1995. Twisted Fact-they drove to MA on April 3-5 with Heidi in the trunk.
-Real Fact- Richard had been dropped off at a job site in Liverpool. No evidence of Heidi was found in woods where 2 men were seen carrying a rolled object. Twisted Fact-Heidi may have been in the rolled rug from Richards van being seen at about 10:30am being brought into woods by Gary and Richard.
-Real Fact-none of the implements confiscated from Gary’s property had any human material on it. Twisted Fact- an army-type fold up shovel was found during a ground search and left where it lay AND a shovel from a retired detective’s van (witnessed by a reporter) had “skeletal muscle” on it.
-Real Fact-Bivens made 3 different police statements about the color, make and model of the van he supposedly saw the 2 men and one woman approaching the morning of April 3, 1994. Twisted Fact-Bivens was touted as an auto expert because he worked at an auto parts store.
-Real Fact-Bivens did not come forward with his observations until after the reward was announced. He lied on insurance questionnaires about an auto accident he was in in October 1993.
-Real Fact-The jail inmate, Baldasaro, received probation for VOP in which Florida Probation was requesting incarceration. Twisted Fact-the inmates only received compensation for room and travel for their testimony.
-Real Fact-Gary received time served for the charge in MA. Twisted Fact-Gary was arrested for drug trafficking in MA.
-Real Fact-The inmates would eavesdrop on Gary’s phone conversation while in jail and then ask him questions. Twisted Fact-Gary “confessed”.
-Real Fact-Heidi was on the employee schedule which was in customer view. Mrs. Duell and Mrs. Allen testified that Heidi “was scheduled to work” on April 3, 1994. Twisted Fact-At the last minute, Heidi volunteered to work April 3 because a co-worker could not.
-REAL FACT-Heidi was a CI for law enforcement, gave names and drug of choice of high schoolers to law enforcement Before she disappeared. Twisted Fact-Heidi informed on Gary and that’s “what she was going to screw him” about---drugs.
-Real Fact-there were 2 pre-trial Hearings- a Huntley and Sandoval. Twisted Fact-favorable prosecution evidence was suppressed.
-Real Fact-Mrs. Duell did not testify to EVERY transaction on the register tape . No other witnesses claimed the store was unattended between 6:35am when Brett supposedly left and 7:55am. Twisted Fact-The inmates testified that Gary told them he took Heidi from the store to near his house and Richard, only, brought her back to the store.
-Real Fact-Disinterested witness testifies to hearing and seeing nothing unusual about Richards van go by his property on Route 104 heading toward D&W and on the way back. Twisted Fact-Richards van was speeding and swerving as it went by.
-Real Fact-Richard purchased 2 packs of generic cigarettes. Paying with 4 $1 bills. No money was unaccounted for and law enforcement allowed the till to be deposited instead of sending for forensic testing. Twisted Fact-Register showing $1.38 (which would have been change from a $5) was the last register transaction.
-Real Fact-Mr. Swenszkowsi did not notice anyone in the van as he walked by the man that got out the drivers side. Twisted Fact-Someone other than Richard moved the van after Mr. Swenszkowski got a cigarette from the pack he just purchased and was preparing to leave.
-Real Fact-The tire mark in the D&W parking lot did not belong to Richards van. Twisted Fact-the mark was from Richards van after kidnapping Heidi.
-Real fact- The first register transaction was for 4:06am when the register was turned on. Twisted Fact-Heidi and Brett arrived at the D&W at 5:55am, turning the register on and changing the time for DST.
-Real Fact-Heidi's CI information was 'found' in evidence stored in Sheriff's garage in May 1995, right before Gary's trial began. Twisted Fact-Law enforcement denies to the public that Heidi was a CI.
-Real Fact-Dodd denies Heidi's CI status at a pre-trial Hearing in December 1994 (and via the media) even though Sergeant Lortie (of the CID unit) wrote a report on April 27, 1994 of personal knowledge that Heidi was "signed up" with parental consent. Twisted Fact-Heidi wasn't 'used' as a CI in a criminal case or criminal investigation.
Any other Real Facts?? How many uncorroborated theories does that make about the brothers being involved?
Well…it’s no wonder the DA doesn’t want to agree to another trial-He Will Lose!! Want to know the Truth for yourself, just read the DA's Statement of Facts and related documents and compare to the Defense's filings. It's all written in black and white.
March 15/18
BIG Lie
From Oakes’ briefing for the Court of Appeals-
“Significantly, neither of these men received any benefit for their testimony (i.e
more favorable plea or sentence). There was no quid pro quo in exchange for their
testimony, so there was no incentive for them to falsely implicate Appellant. (SA
494, 524-26, 563, 573).”
“While Appellant disparages their testimony and characterizes them as nothing more than jail house
snitches, they received no consideration for their testimony. Further, in evaluating
their reliability, it's worth noting that neither man claimed that Appellant directly
admitted to kidnapping and killing Heidi Allen.”
Then, Oakes, where did the handwritten notes of Mr. Baldasaro (previously posted on this site on December 2, 2017) getting probation instead of jail time as Florida Probation department recommended come from?
So, Todd, the legal narrative is that “neither man claimed that Appellant directly
admitted to kidnapping and killing Heidi Allen.” Why are you publicly saying that Gary confessed?
I pray that both you law enforcement “agents”, along with Dodd, Wheeler, Yerdon, etc… are made to atone for breaking God’s Laws. “Thou shalt not bear false witness”.
April 26 is just around the corner.
March 15/18
Reply to Dodd n Oakes
Yes they think the public's stupid. All they do is attempt to dig up dirt on everyone else. To deny their own dirt they are trying to hide. Sickening. If Heidis case doesn't tell you how much the average citizens life matters. Nothing will. Any CI for OZ your better off dealing w a punishment than putting your life on the line for those who could care less your helping them. Heidis life obviously doesn't matter her CI Status obviously was lied about. Still is. Like she was nothing. She may not have mattered to them but she mattered to many just as Gary mattered but notice only they matter. That's why anyone who goes against them. They simply lie about also and tarnish anyone reputation by saying that persons crazy. Sick it really is very sickening for the public to support this case, conviction and pathetic stories they dish out about everyone who's tried to help these families. Oakes if anything happens to the one witness you exposed as a potential other CI 4 years ago. Which is not public info. You should be held fully responsible. You publically exposed another witness who was trying to give info as a CI. VERY DANGEROUS. BUT WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU CARE. NO ONE MATTERS BUT YOUR BUDDIES IN HIGHER POWER IN OZ.
March 12/18
Brett Law
Brett Law is a liar. Brett knew didn't you Brett?? Don't lie now
Brett..It's obvious you were well aware.
February 22/18
Gary's Book.
Gary and his family have editors helping build his book. It's based off
all facts, court documents, and every ounce of information produced by
every angle of this injustice. It's coming very soon. It has a web site
built to let the reader interact with each chapter. This is gonna make OZ
look like the twilight zone.
Once it's live, ready, will post the link to you great folks. It'll be
available for download and paperback edition. There are 3 books in total
as the story is too long to detail all in one book. We begin with Manna
from Heaven and take you back to 1994-1995. Thibodeaus are very excited
they finally have a voice.
To the Allen's your daughter was not a coke head and to support the DA you
are supporting the theory she was a druggie and an adultres. I pray you
stop supporting a theory that destroys the true reputation and life Heidi
built. She was an outstanding young lady and that will be portrayed
through out Gary's book. God forgive you for supporting the idea she was a
druggie. With no facts to support the DA you stood by this. Gary's book
will reflect the real truth. Not reflect as Heidis sisters book has. No
facts, no truth and not an ounce of knowledge to this case.
February 22/18
Gary Thibodeau....The Death Of Common Sense
Reading the latest on this web I believe the case really surrounds the
first people at the store. A lot of their stories don't make sense. Not
seeing anyone, any cars but then one guy sees a kidnapping but the other
guy who was there earlier doesn't.
There are a number of suspicious events: Person who sent Steen text.."CYA
Heidi". It sure seems that he knew Steen was involved doesn't it? and he
doesn't know who sent it from his phone...hard to believe.
Stinson's story still baffles me...think about it.
Swenkowski saw Richard leave ALONE...at 7:42-7:43 but his truck was seen
by neighbors 2 minutes after that...impossible.
I really believe that if he wins, he will win the next trial. Will Lisa
opt for a trial without a jury? And will the FBI investigate the OCSD
actions as they are obviously corrupt. Almost to the unbelievable.
February 17-18/18
Brett Law LIAR
Brett tells officers in 94 Heidi feared no one. Why is it Brett changed his story 20 years later. Now claiming Heidi feared a coke head who was in and out of jail? Why would her own boyfriend lie so bad about something that could have helped lead them to Heidi? That could have changed the course of so many lives? One could conclude Brett knows far more than he leads on. Brett how is it you've lived all these years, with not an ounce of guilt to your part in the lies that incarcerated an innocent human being? Sick bastard. There is a pretty place in hell for you and your buddies. If you think citizens aren't aware of your relationship in 94 with the original probable suspect the super hero writer the big, big guy you couldn't be more wrong. As many have already reported and confirmed your relationship with Garys attorney. Truth is you are both assholes, with no conscience. . http://www.syracuse.com/crime/index.ssf/2015/09/a_first_in_heidi_allen_kidnapping_
case_da_doesnt_oppose_evidence_newly_uncovered.html
February 12-13/18
Gary's day
https://www.nycourts.gov/ctapps/courtpass/Public_search.aspx
The People, Respondent, v. Gary Thibodeau, Appellant.
February 12-13/18
Mr. Oakes:
Correct me if I’m wrong, I don’t recall Dodd’s lying “eyewitness” EVER
mentioning in any police statement or court testimony that the girl he
“knew” was Heidi was or was not wearing a jacket when he supposedly
witnessed the struggle. He sure did mention her chest though!! Funny…he
noticed that but not what kind of shirt or jacket she may have been
wearing?!? How dare you twist Mr. Pierce’s statements and testimony to
fit your agenda. Fact that you didn’t accurately convey in your brief to
the Appeals Court-Mr. Pierce drew a beard on Gary’s newspaper photo in
1994 and “thought it was close enough” so he didn’t come forward then.
Never crossed your pea mind that a young looking mugshot of Steen from 6
years prior to Heidi’s disappearance was inappropriate? You did mention
that the photo of Steen was 6 years prior in your filing…makes one wonder
why YOU didn’t take it upon yourself, seeing that you question the
integrity of the lead investigator-Mr. Petriski-to find a photo closer to
April 1994. Can’t do that but would-Fact-sit in on an interview with a
witness who tells you and Petriski what she knew happened to Heidi?!?!
Mr.
Bivens was torn limb from limb on the stand…pleading the fifth about lying
on an insurance form…yet the jury believed his “eyewitness” account???
Yeah!, he’s a real stand-up guy…coming forward AFTER the reward was
offered and by pressure from his significant other. Nothing to gain for
testimony??...Yeah right. Just like Mr. Baldasaro received no benefit.
Which is another lie. May I refer you to the handwritten notes from the
ADA’s, previously posted on this site, to the clear/concise explanation
that Mr. Baldasaro was to be given probation in opposition to Florida’s
Probation Department recommendation that he be jailed.
You
think you are so smart and have loyalty from others in Oswego?? Just
wait until reelection time when You are not endorsed because you followed
orders about fighting Gary’s exoneration that resulted in the public
getting the Truth!! You are the one with egg on your face.
Well, not the only one…Judge Donnie Dodd should be sanctioned for his part
and Mr. Rule Todd as well!! Good Luck…though it seems in politics,
constituents have to pick between the lesser of two evils instead of the
most qualified. When is election? I won’t be voting for you.
I
sleep on a soft pillow. What about YOU?
Signed,
On To
You
February 10/18
Deputy Curtis
The 745 time comes from the officer who reached the scene first. Whom was waved down by Stitson. What Curtis doesn't comprehend by his 745 testimony. Is he put himself on the scene at the exact time Bivens would be passing the store. Bivens left east 2nd street at 730. It's 16 minutes from point a to point b. Putting Bivens on scene at the same exact time 745/746 (This does not included stops n gos at all stop lights heading out of Oswego as he stated). Stitson tells you on scene time was 758, later changed to 755, again changed by Curtis at 745. Then you have Fabian whom left her home in Fulton N.Y. at 712 am. 22 minutes from there to where she spotted the van on 104/69 placing this van at that location by 734. Mr.Nevill also left his home at 730, it's 4 miles from his house to the corner of 104/69 putting the van again at that very spot Fabian says by 734. Way before Richard Thibodeau ever arrived at the store and cashed out at 742. So 2 witnesses place a speeding van at the same spot at the same time of 734, Curtis placed himself on scene with Stitson and Bivens. Then you have the young girl whom claims to have seen Richards van by Gary's home at 748. Leaving 6 minutes to travel at estimated 15 miles. Putting the speed of the van at 150 mph. Then there's Baldasaro who says they picked Heidi up by the check out time of 742, drove to Gary's and back to the store, by 745. Leaving 3 minutes to travel 30 miles. Putting the speed then of this van at a whooping 300 mph. Fact check it Greg. Every ounce of these times came straight from your filing. Every drop of this is your own filing. That you never fact checked or did an estimate for time
travel. You have 2 witnesses spotting a van 8 minutes before your scheduled kidnapping. 1 witness that saw the kidnapping at the exact time your officer testified to being on the scene. The only one dead on with the time is MR.S cashing out at 741, 11 minutes exactly from point a to the store from which he traveled from. Cashing him out at exactly 741. He is the only one that's dead on. Then there's Sheriff Nellis whom states on scene time was 758. Which Sheriffs lying?
By Greg's filing this is the time line
734 Fabian spots a van
734 Nellis spots a van
741 Stitson arrives sees nothing
742 Richard kidnaps Heidi
745 Curtis on scene
745/746 Bivens passes the store says he witnessed the kidnapping
748 Richards vans seen at Gary's
Either way you see it. By your own filing Greg. It's all IMPOSSIBLE
February 9/18
Greg Oakes out right lied in his filing.
He writes the on scene time was 745 am. The actual first report for the on scene time by Sheriff Nellis was 758. It later changed to 755. But in Greg's filing he has on scene time as 745. Here's another kicker. Bivens left his house at 730 am per reports, hitting every stop light out of Oswego. It's 16 minutes from his address to dnw store which puts bivens on scene at 746. So Greg why not tell these great citizens how your officers on scene per your filing at the same exact time your eye witness and your witness Stitson was on scene. You can't. Because you can't. You'd think you'd readjust your entire botched lying fraudulent case. Here's the proof. All lies Greg. I pray you are disbarred for filing false information.
Bohrer A Marine??
If you read any of Bohrer own Heidi triangles writings. He insists he was a former marine.
January 1/18
Re: Death of Common Sense
Bohrer writes in his notes that were seized. Kiki, coke dealer. Kiki was a massive, larger than Bohrer drug dealer. Often running to none other than N.Y. city and back. His real names. Maximo Kiki Sanchez. Funny how he is arrested right after Heidi becomes a Ci and inbetween the time she vanishes. Highly dangerous, a criminal record longer than Oakes and Dodds lies. Its obvious Bohrer is linked to him, notes him in his Heidi Triangle book. But yet the Sheriff's play dumb on who he is. Maybe that's why Fulton PD brought him down in 93. So is this the man everyone seemed to fear? Including Heidi? Kiki is the only coke dealer listed in any notes, papers or documents anywhere. Its logical to lean towards YES it's quit possible. Seeing as the CI who did bring him down was also terrified of this man. Anyone hear of this fella before?
January 1/18
Kiki
Funny Bohrer indeed has this man's name in his paper work. Funny the man's a coke dealer that word pops Up a lot in this.
Jail term
OSWEGO — Maximo "KikT
Sanchez, 39, of 149 E. Cayuga St.,
—Qswego. was sentenced Monday in
County Court on charges of thirddegree
criminal sale of a controlled
substance and third-degree criminal
possession of a controlled
substance.
Sanchez was sentenced by Judge
John Elliou to a maximum of nine
years, minimum of three years in
Elmira State Correctional Facility.
He was also assessed a $155
surcharge. , • <
Sanchez was originally indicted
on 22 drug-related charges. According
to court documents, Sanchez
possessed and sold .87 grams of
cocaine for $80 while at his residence.
He also sold 1.07 grams of
cocaine on March 13 at his residence,
according to court
documents.
On Jan. 15 Sanchez sold 2.60
cocaine on Jan. 20, according tocourt
records. On Jan. 23 he allegedly
possessed 4.52 grams of
cocaine. _^ —
January 1/18
Today's Quote December 27/2017
'Tis not enough to help the feeble up, but to support them after.
William Shakespeare
Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Someone posted about NYS investigating the Thibodeau case.....NOT TRUE
December 27/17
Smithsonian report for evidence in Heidi's case
December 27/17
Yep, tourism is the answer over a 52 a week jobs !
December 27/17
Bone
Please post the report from the Smithsonian Department of Anthropology regarding the evidence for the Heidi Allen case.
Couple questions:
Did the FBI agent that testified for the defense, Christopher Allen, read this document out loud during Gary's trial? And what does "but there are no morphological details that suggest a human origin." mean?
Also, why didn't the Defense call in a cremation specialist or have any kind of expert in human body disintegration?
One simple question to the FBI agent, who gave a partial true answer, and there is the belief that Heidi (could have) was burned in an outside burn barrel/pit.
What did the inmate supposedly tell Gary...that teeth don't burn? Jurors, you believed the inmates testimony, so.....why weren't TEETH found or reported by the Smithsonian? **slapping forehead** That's right, the Thibodeau's sifted through the burnt material, removing only what was human bone but leaving the burnt bone material that was what they testified to...animal bones, specifically chicken (as testified). Just like they must have had plastic in the van when Heidi was taken to justify no DNA in Richard's van. Right Dodd....the "cleaning" of the van...that In Fact happened AFTER the April 9, 1994 complete forensic exam of the van. Dodd.........the jurors could make up theories with no evidence but they didn't have the higher thinking that because there was no evidence pointing to the DA's and Sheriff's theory being correct that, In Fact, it makes the theories INCORRECT?
HHmmmm, they must have had their man then even though nothing truthfully fits.? The timeline doesn't fit with Richards movements the morning of April 3, 1994. No DNA evidence fits with a violent struggle taking place in the van. Verifiable alibi witnesses don't fit with Richard and Gary being together on April 3, 1994-Gary's adult neighbors witnesses didn't even ID Richards van at Gary's on April 3, 1994. No teeth or any other positive human remains were on Gary's property, via negative indications from multiple cadaver dogs on Gary's property and the Smithsonian report. "everyone would agree that Heidi wouldn't leave the store unattended". Then why do some people believe the inmates when they testified that Gary and Richard took Heidi to near Gary's while she was working alone?
Come on jurors...if you had known about Dan Barney being listed as "probably suspect" or that Michael Bohrer had been interviewed by the FBI and OCSD was competent to get his criminal past in 1995, would that have tipped the scales for you to acquit because the DA did not prove anything "beyond a reasonable doubt".
Merry Christmas Gary and Richard and all your family. Praying for Justice and Peace and Repentance and Healing for All Involved.
December 24/17
“no morphological details” Basically that means there was nothing, ie. ash, particles, cells, DNA molecules, smell or spirit that was human in origin. The bit about burning the body in a stove was as reliable as the rest of
the snitches story.
Reply to 3 Amigos
I read back in 2014 that someone said that a woman ( worked as a law clerk I believe) caught two guys in lies at the store.
1. Deputy that got flagged down said that he had to go follow the van...but according to this story, NO ONE MENTIONED A VAN!!!
Is it true , I don't know, as I thought he stayed there and called it in and inspected the area etc.
Also Sue Rodems died of a heart attack....what caused it...unknown, unless you believe the BS in Fulton.
December 21/17
How Coincidental
Richard Thibodeau attorney, called the jail house snitches Agents. Said they were working for the dept. Funny one snitch McDonald arrives inside Mass Jail the same day as Richards arrest for Heidi and Garys May arrest for Mass Jail. How odd, May 25th, 1994. National missing kids day. How sick. Sick DA Office. Even sicker sheriff dept.
December 21/17
Huge Mistake by Sheriffs
Wednesday July 27, 1994. The Herald Journal released the snitches statements. This is the issue. How did the Sheriffs obtain on the 27th Baldasaro statement dated July 31, 1994. Sheriffs made a mistake. Baldasaro never signed until 4 days after the Herald aired his written statement? Huge set up Dodd? On July 23, 1994 Dodd calls the snitches a mannia from Heaven. Unless you have ESP, or can time travel in the future Dodd, on the 23nd, 27th, Baldasaro had not written any statement. Talk about a huge set up. Huge mistake by releasing Baldasaro statement 4 days early. Would leave anyone asking how the hell Dodd knew on the 22nd about Baldasaro statement when it wasn't yet signed. Heres the proof. Ill tell you how Dodd. You set Gary up. Did not on July 23 yet have Baldasaro as a witness. The more you compare dates the more Dodds story doesn't add up. Its obvious they set Gary up intentionally was in contact witn these snitches the entire time. On June 29, 94 they siezed Garys stove. How funny it is a month later. Dodds witnesses fell from the sky claiming Gart burned Heidi in a wood stove again Dodd did your ass time travel to know in a month God was gonna drop 2 witnesses on your lap that claim the same theory with the stove you have?? How funny you sieze the stove. Then a month later seem to have witnesses to back up your lies. Total set up. You sneaky sob.
December 21/17
Today's Quote December 20/2017
Money? How did I lose it? I never did lose it. I just never knew where it went.
Edith Piaf
Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
The AG office must follow procedures and writing a letter ( if true) to inform Lisa about what is going to happen...law is slow moving.
I hope the person that posted.."I got a phone call from one of the guys towing a trailer that VanPatten called for the hit"....is telling the truth.
They will probably have a hotline you can call and not give your name. If you KNOW something and it's true please let them know. It's too late for them to do anything violent as it will open up more avenues.
Please step up and do the right thing.
December 20/17
3 Amigos...
Good question. Also, does anyone know which sheriff's deputy had his/her patrol car parked for years permanently just down the hill from the D&W for years in a private driveway on 104? I always thought this was very strange.
December 20/17
3 Amigos
When Heidi came up missing....
Curtis left the store to follow pursuit....correct?
(Maybe) he was leaving the scene with Heidi in the back seat. The van might had pulled in for business, seen "something" happening, and left. Curtis now leaves with Heidi.
Hummmm.
Anyone ever check out the cops cars for DNA.
Didn't Curtis get a new car shortly after that?
More questions!
December 19/17
State Attorney General's Office
OSWEGO, N.Y. -- "The state Attorney General's Office has begun investigating whether all evidence in the 1994 abduction of Heidi Allen in Oswego County was turned over to lawyers for the man convicted of kidnapping her.
The AG's Conviction Review Bureau filed papers this week in the Oswego County Clerk's office revealing the state prosecutors' involvement for the first time.
Assistant Attorney General Gail Heatherly, chief of the review bureau, wrote a letter last month to Thidobeau's lawyers and to prosecutors saying her office was involved "in the hope that the discovery provided and the investigation performed in this 20-year-old case is as complete as is humanly possible."
The documents include a request to local law enforcement agencies for any reports related to the case, and the police agencies' responses."
Whoppie Sh!t They wrote a letter asking the most corrupt county in the state to play fair.
December 18/17
Wondering!!
Doj, FBI, attorney General. When have you seen them ever in upstate NY help on any case other than Doyle's? They are wondering how to save the state millions in a law suit. Pretty sick they stand on the side lines. Do NOTHING but get involved in a case State Police could have handled on their own (Doyle). Garys case, they snub their noses to it. Both attorney general and FBI are a Waiste of tax payers money. Neither dept, has done shit. It does not matter what you've seen, heard or report, they've watched this case unfold, have done NOTHING to intervene. Lisa works for DOJ. Instead the FBI up there, fiddles with pathetic cases like Doyle, to do with a teen kid, not a homocide. Heidi is null n void to them. Along with Gary. Political powers do one thing. Cover the asses of other political powers. Attorney Generals a joke. And lied to the public. They NEVER investigated. It was a lie and a farce to look good in the public eye. FBI have had 23 years to also do their job. Only one who seems to know how to do their job is Lisa.
December 15-16/17
Gary Thibodeau.....The Death Of Common Sense
I have always wondered what Mr. Swenkowski was thinking when the verdict
came back as GUILTY! He saw him...alone, watched him leave...alone and
never saw a kidnapping or Gary while he was there. Now I wonder just what
the hell the jury was thinking...if anything at all.
I have always wondered what Mr. Stinson is thinking about how some people
may ask how did you NOT see anything? You stated you were there from
approx. 7:38 to 7:55 and flagged down a cop. But you stated that you never
saw anyone or any cars. I have always wondered.....WHY or HOW.
I have always wondered why Mr. Biven's testimony is all over the place.
The time, description of the van, description of the kidnappers ( not at
all fitting the two brothers physical apperance ), changing his mind on
the van he saw in and out of court. And how could you not see that a girl
struggling didn't need your help?
I always wondered why Oakes' MA story was proven false (in court) but
nothing was ever done about it.
I always wondered hoe Dodd could have even taken them to court without ANY
evidence or witness that puts them there.
I always wondered about the cash register time, money and testimony.
I always wondered why after Jen Westcott failed a poly about a taped phone
call, then went back in and said she was told what happened to Heidi and
mentioned a WHITE van at the house she said she never lived at and the
OCSD did nothing. Also telling the cops.."after 20 years I still have to
tell you there were 2 vans?
I always wondered how, why and when the OCSD decided to frame Gary T. Was
it years later after they knew he was innocent and someone ( maybe a
politician ) said to him we don't need a law suit ( just my opinion).
I always wondered why these were not means for more investigation: Jen
Westcott stories, Deputy lying on the stand, evidence withheld,, Oakes
telling Lisa P. that he didn't have very much confidence in INTEGRITY of
the OCSD investigation and all the other things that makes people
think...COVER UP!
I am still wondering if the FBI is coming to town, God knows they all gave
enough lopsided info and failed to continue a still open case.
I wonder what the FBI, DOJ and the NYS Atty General's council is...well
WONDERING!
December 15-16/17
Ding Dong. You’re wrong….Oaks
Steen was “likely falsely boasting”. Based on what FACTS? Did he pass a lie detector? What about 3 cadaver dog indications near an area similarly described by his “boasting”? What about Bohrer? Was he given a test, too? And it didn’t concern you that he knew and had so much information from around the time of the disappearance? He certainly didn’t get it from social media and I highly doubt the documents he DID have were available to the public even BEFORE Gary’s trial.
Here, Oaks, is a high five to start you on your way to Investigation 101.
December 13/17
Ozwego County
The cops – lawyers – doctors – politicians in Ozwego County have abused – raped - and killed more women in this county then anybody would ever imagine. Gary was lucky he only got jail.
December 12/17
3 Amigos
Years back. A man named Sirgibbs sat in the court room. Watching Garys case unfold. He posted some pretty intelligent posts. He tells you. There are 3 connections that OCSD didnt want you to link together. That 3 would go to the dirty cop cokers house. That 2 knew, 2 really KNEW, he writes.
Funny how Vanpatten, Curtis, Petrowski hang at Curtis house over the years. Dirty cop cokers house must be Curtis, the 2 who Knew, really KNEW was petrowski and Vanpatten. Can it be proven. Yes. It can be proven by eye witnesses.
Matter of fact. Curtis was petrowski mentor lol per say.
So you have the lead investigator stealing texts messages between 2 persons of interest. Makes complete sense now. Why this entire case has gone in the direction it has.
The officer whom dropped the cards, buddies to lead investigator now, also friends to same cop whom exposed Heidi and Curtis just happened to be driving by minutes after Heidi disappeared.
You 3 corrupt amigos belong in prison.
December 8/17
ocsd and da corruption
sue boullard knew everything that was going on with the drug dealing, extorsion, embezeling and sexual harassment in the district attorneys office and sheriff’s department.She wasn’t afraid to call them on it and she ended up in the river at the same spot where they dumped Carol wood. Heidi was on the inside working with that slime and she just vanishes. Several women got too close to that bunch and ended up dead unexpectedly. A lot of the dirty money was being laundered through columbia savings and loan and fulton savings and probably still is.
December 8/17
Special Deputies
Beside the drug trade ands rasping women motorists it is a wonder they found any time to protect and serve.You know that is why the Sheriff and the DA are so dead set against a new trial for Gary. They don’t want the truth and the OCSDs involvement in Heidis disappearance to come out in the light of day. Are you out of your ever lovin? No but you sure as hell are Todd.
December 7/17
The Oswego/Co.rt 1 Halloween wagon
Hey Kells,
Did anyone else notice that the little Halloween hayride wagon now sits at the east end of the Dpw fenced in area. That seems to me like he should be reprimanded for that stunt.
The problem is that when little billy has his dough wagon out there for the festivities this makes him an accomplice. I cannot believe this blatant b.s. Is still allowed after all the bullshit this city has gone through.
I drive by Kells house everyday. If I see him plowing his driveway I will stop and introduce myself to him. Have some guts folks. This is our money these people are spending. Hold these people accountable and make them pay with losing their jobs.
Let's get moving on taking control of a city that has never had accountability. We do have outside resources that can help. Call the A.G's office , call the congress person, call the Nys comptroller and see who to talk to due to misuse of municipal money.
Signed, I'm watching
December 7/17
Re: sleezy lawyers
The same ones always seemed to be there, the Hawthornes, Eby, Cieszeski and Todd. Not one real lawyer in the bunch.
December 7/17
Sexual Blackmail In Oswego County
In the 90s RT 57 South of Fulton was prime hunting for the Fulton Cops and the County Sheriffs.
Women getting out of work at Miller and Owens were prime targets of these sexual predators. Some of them recorded the harassment by officers and deputies and confronted District Attorney James Grose. Grose smashed the recorder in front of them and threatened them should they ever bring up that subject again.
It didn’t end there. Women who didn’t put out were given tickets for loud mufflers, tail lights out or doing 37 MPH in a 35 MPH zone. Then there was a host of sleezy lawyers waiting to represent them for you guessed it sex.
December 6/17
Reply Moe Todd
Laugh away. Every one I know is laughing at them. The public knows the truth, no matter how much they lie. Facts are facts. No matter the lies. It can never change that fact.
December 6/17
Fact!!!
I know for a fact. One deputy followed the bartender from Williamstown home one night after she closed up the bar. Yes the choice was sex or dwi. She is very vocal about this incident. Its called sexual harrassement, entrapment, the list goes on. It started with oral sex on the road. He then followed her back to her place. Mean while he was on duty and we tax payers are paying for this nasty shit. Ill get his name but to the officer whom did this. Her intials are TM, and Im certain you are well aware of who you are...Oakes will deny...deny...deny..everyones a liar but OCSD, DA office. Instead of him seeing hes surrounded by pigs, literally. He thinks hes surrounded by heros. He couldn't be any dumber.
December 6/17
Special Deputies
One of the biggest jokes in Oz was the daughter Jack Obey fathered in lieu of a speeding ticket. Its not just the nineties. that sh!t goes on every day in this county by every law enforcement agency
December 6/17
Re: Gosek Recording
You people on here are a joke. You think those dumb Polacks that elected thos to Goseks care about there sex crimes. If the old man ran for mayor again he would get elected. Oswego is just as f**ked up as they are. The kid is a teacher. What a perfect person to be involved with children.
December 5/17
Re: Moe Todds Special Deputies
Hope the women who were taken advantage of by these disgusting men had the where-with-all to get STD tested after their encounter. Wonder if their wife/girlfriend had any idea just how sickening their loved one was or is De Nile the River in Egypt?
CDC, was there an epidemic of oral Herpes in Oswego during the time period of these allegations?
“Smear campaign by the Defense”. LOL, Mr. Oakes. Appears your buddies smeared……before any of the outside world even knew!! ** Dang, I just thought they were incompetent at their jobs. Must reconsider in light of the new accusation.** But yet these are some of the a&$holes that are trusted by some in the community?!?! I wonder though, how adept are some people at being two-faced?
I apologize. I know I shouldn’t laugh at the…..expense of others.
December 5/17
Special Deputies And Special Judges.
My neighbor had her kids taken by DSS. Two weeks later she got them back. Her words “ all I had to do was blow the family court judge”.
December 5/17
ME TOO
The judges and attorneys have been preying on the women and young boys of this county for half a century. It is time for them to speak out.
December 5/17
Today's Quote December 4/2017
She plucked from my lapel the invisible strand of lint (the universal act of woman to proclaim ownership.
O. Henry
Moe Todds Special Deputies
In the early Nineties Under Sheriff Moe Todd gave dash mount strobe lights to ADA Don Dodd and ADA Don Todd so they could make citizens arrests. How it worked was they would follow women home from local bars and pull them over for suspicion of drunk driving. Some got a stiff warning others had to service the stiff end of the law.
December 4/17
Just when you think you have heard it all.
State Police Arrest Reports 07/06/2008
Louis E. Sorendo, 51, of 21 Ellen St., Oswego
On 07/06/08, Louis E. Sorendo, age 51, of 21 Ellen St., Oswego, NY, was arrested by the New York State Police ââ‚Âââ‚Å“ Syracuse for Unlawful Possession of Marijuana after being stopped for a seat belt violation at the Verona interchange (exit # 33) of the Thruway.
Mr. Sorendo was released to appear in the Town of Verona court.
December 4/17
Shower Room Banter
Federal inmate #1: Hey Leroy, remember that child molester Gosek that came through here back in 2006? He was some of the best lovin I had on the inside but he was always crying so I had to put a bag over his head.
Federal inmate 2: Yeah Bubba, he was ok but I would rather do his son. I’d like to throw a flag over his little a$$ and do him for god and country.
Hinder Grinder
December 2/17
Bobby Baldasaro
Has anyone besides Dodd seen the notes about Bobby?
HHmmm. A report from Florida probation says they recommend that his probation be revoked and "2 years community control for closer supervision". Notes show that a governors warrant was issued for him. They were going to hold him up in MA so he can testify in NY "then we can justify putting him back on probation". What? He got probation for testifying in NY.
Damn, and I thought it was testified to that neither inmate received any benefit for testifying.?!
It's all in black and white...Bobby did.
November 27/17
Grab your ankles Oswego....
If everyone thinks they don't have any X-mas $$$ leftover now once paying that f'n disastrous water/sewer bill then hang on tight...it's going up to $315/qtr. come February so you really won't have any f'n $$$ remaining to do anything with...including eating! Oh, and BTW...it wasn't a screwdriver that killed the old man on Mitchell St. many years ago....it was a f'n icepick & the local police have made it known! HMMM!!!
November 27/17
Bivens and criminal witnesses
LOL...."disinterested witnesses" we found credible? Like who?
Bivens was obviously lying about something....many different police statements, pleading the 5th during trial about the false insurance claim form.
Ms. Montgomery...
Mr. Neville Jr....
The Cowen's knowing Bivens....
The store owner, "family friend", finding the CI card but testifying to not "warning" Heidi's family.....
That Sturtz woman "we kept it a secret" that Heidi was IN FACT a CI....
Please post the documents about Baldasaro getting a reduced sentence on recommendation for his NY testimony.
Deputy Wheeler lying under oath. Dodd refusing to give "the entire" OCSD case file as per repeated arguments against turning over documents and "finding" Heidi case evidence "in the garage" in the 11th hour.
BUT....this was a good arrest, good conviction. LMAO Todd, Dodd, Oakes.....you guys can't be that ignorant!?? You guys are sick mother___ that have turned a missing young woman from your community into a trivial, cya occurrence.
Sad that Heidi's own loving sister can't comprehend what is written in black and white. I would not rest, even after all these years, if Heidi was my sister, daughter, close cousin, close friend. Pray that more people speak the truth for Justice for Heidi and Gary....Shame on All You Liars/Deceivers.
Heidi was/is important even if one has given up hope for finding the Truth!!
Have you seen Bivens' Facebook page? Some kind of Christian to violate one of God's Laws...."Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor". Praise God that those who violate HIS laws will be properly Judged and Punished. Eternity is a long time, if you're a believer.
November 27/17
Re: IP address
What are they worried about unless what is posted can be proven?
Some accusations are false...but others are true.
I am willing to bet that most of what is posted about the Heidi Allen case is a FACT that can be proven from written documentation.
NO INTEGRITY and NO MORALS. Ya'll should resign. Along with the other crooked Oswego government officials.
Keep Speaking and vote the vermin out!! Research your candidates. Talk to the candidates and other constituents. Thank you to ALL who don't give up! "WE the People" are stronger than them.
November 27/17
Threats and intimidation are how these people stay in control and out of jail. When they become too much of a liability they get thrown under the buss like Dumbsmor did to Gosek.
Water Bills 2018
They are raising the water bills from $275 to $315. Are you f<{king me. Barlow sure has BS everyone in this dump city. Giving money to all his friends and stealing money from everyone else. How does he expect the seniors on fixed incomes to pay for this ..This city government has gone right in the toilet Barlow if you read this. You and your government are idiots ..
November 27/17
Today's Quote November 26/2017
Glory, built on selfish principles, is shame and guilt.
William Cowper
This Bivens???
This Bivens? Are you talking this Bivens. Are you identifying the DA main witness as a past prime suspect in the odd death of an old man? If so whats this old mans name? Easy way to find that out. Unless of course the Sheriffs disposed of his past crimes, I wouldnt doubt in exchange for his testimony?? One could make that assumption. If so, Dodds more Devil than the real devil. Sick....this entire case the more you stop and smell the roses, you notice those gorgeous roses smell like shit. The stench is coming from OCSD and the DA Office.
How would one confirm all those things?? Anyone have any proof of the Bivens claims posted on here?
November 26/17
Bivens?
Is the Bivens referenced in the Heidi Allen story the same Bivens that drove taxi for Horan's in the 80s? If so he has quite a shady reputation to start with. He was arrested for false imprisonment of a teenage girl in the back seat of his cab, he refused to let her out until she agreed to have sex with him! He also robbed an old lady on rt 48,Mrs Cahill on 3 seperate occasions and was a suspect in the suspicious death of an old man on Mitchell St who was found dead at the bottom of his stairs with a screwdriver through his skull. The same police investigating the Heidi Allen case determined that death to be accidental. lol
November 25/17
Reply to Bivens
I've read on Bivens also before but its the first time I've ever really sat down and compared his stories and his multitude of changed statements, his confusing descriptions and changes he added to the van, he even changed the vans location at the store, from between the pumps to the outside of the pumps. Bivens, is certified, in my opinion, up to no good. I never knew he gave the make and model of the vehicle. Not every ones from the Oswego area. So obtaining transcripts arent easy for outsiders. Ty for sharing that. To me Bivens pleading the 5th, tells me a lot. Seems a pretty good ammount of Oakes side uses the 5th like it means nothing. To me the 5th typically, tells anyone, besides numb nuts Oakes. They've got something to hide. You are only to use that line if it will incriminate yourself. By using the 5th, to me, they did just that. Bivens is a con, simple as that.
November 23/17
Okay, this will clear up all the confusion Mr. Bivens created with his lies.
Say hello to Mr. Christopher Bivens, the DA eye witness. This photo tell anyone anything?
November 22/17
Bivens
I had a C 10 pickup back in the 70s and always thought the vans were C 10 too. I just never cared or looked that close to see that the "C" was actually a "G". Now reading his statement I see a lot more than has been talked about before. H said he recognized the van from the rust over the wheels and the bumper that hung down and a trailer hitch. He claimed he didnt stop because he didnt want to get involved.
Driving down a major highway in slush and snow he sees a woman struggling with a man and he still is observant enough to note rust, a crooked bumper and a trailer hitch yet the description of the man did not fit either of the Thibodeau brothers and the pictures of the van below show very little rust over the wheels.
A more likely story would be he observed a woman and a man in what he thought might be a domestic dispute and just kept going. Later he learned of the missing store clerk and began to feel bad about not stopping so he called the OCSD. Even though his original description of the van did not fit the Thibodeaus or there van the sherrifs show him a picture of Richards van an he then decided that was the one.
November 22/17
Bivens' Testimony C-10 Van
The fact it may have been a light blue C-10 van was given in Bivens' testimony. It's not that hard to find, guys.
November 21/17
Richard's van
Here's how these g, c things work for Chevy. There is no such thing as a c10 van. Ever. C10 is a pickup truck. GM had letter names for their body styles.
C - 2 wheel drive pickup
K - 4 wheel drive
G - van
etc.
The 10 means 1/2 ton, 20 3/4 ton, 30 1 ton. Bohrer drove a 1976, G20 3/4 ton.
November 21/17
C10 van huh...
How the hell would you know the van they are looking for is a c10 Chevy van? Maybe you need a knock on your door. No where does it say ever Bohrer had a Chevy c10. But your dead on. That's a fact you shouldn't and wouldn't know. Its not mentioned or documented anywhere.
November 19/20/17
C10 huh...
Richard's vans a 1976, which would make it a G10, G20, G30 series. Here are the 1976 specs from Chevy for the 1976 year. So no the c10 series was never, not once listed anywhere in any one of the witnesses statements, court documents, records. Not one person ever described the van as a white or blue c10-CHEVY. Bivens stated ,"I THINK it was a Chevy, van. FROM 1979-1986." The MAKE AND MODEL is not listed anywhere, as a definite . Not even in Bivens statements. So the c10 Is not a fact and isn't relevant. Because a 1976, is a G SERIES MODEL. All that's ever said is they witnessed a white, off white or blue van. Where you came up with a c10 is beyond me.
November 19/20/17
Murtaugh comments:
As a matter of fact I do on my way to new haven now had a nice road trip to fernwood too wink emoticon
Posted on Judge to prosecutor in Heidi Allen case: You missed chance to respond to wrongful conviction claim
9/18/2014 9:42 AM
Omg please no mistake we (3 of us) picked up two vans at gt house ... Me roger & a 3rd person picked up a dift van in fern wood I can't tell you where it was but I'm sure I can drive right to there like I did last week going to Gary's house ( that I had only been to twice before in the 90's
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:25 PM
It was a red house is all we can remember
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:17 PM
I'm sorry I don't I'd just be guessing but one of my helpers just asked me if I remember going to fern wood to get a white van at 1st didn't remember but after talking a bit I do now
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:08 PM
No in fern wood ( I think that's how you spell it
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:05 PM
Omg I don't know I just remember him coming to me wanting me to pick one up for him .. Never gave it much thought till tonight talking it over with my staff
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 10:55 PM
You all ready for this one ????? I do remember going with RB to fern wood to pick up a white van that he had to junk back around same time of the ha deal
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 10:52 PM
Tina Bennett Fighting For Fathers Rights
How much time do you think she will spend on your case when she devotes half of her TV commercial to taking shots at her ex husband and his family.
November 19/20/17
MURTAUGH'S TWEET
Richard murtaugh @rmroutlaw · Jan 14
#heidiallen after 20 plus years this is the best they can come up with? & it all started from towing a van that was never at Gary's .. Joke
November 19/20/17
Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Swenkowski, Richard, Jenn Westcott, Bivens, Stinson, OCSD, DAs...and of course Gary:
Why didn't Swenkowski's testimony about seeing RT leave the store alone carry any weight?
RT walked out and HA was in the store when he left
Stinson walked in and NO HEIDI????? So what happened after Senkowski and RT left? What exact time was Bivens there? His story is confusing...why? Simple question and a simple answer...cover up?
Bivens saw the kidnapping, RT, Swenkowski, Stinson were there a little before it happened, did anyone see another person after they left?
Caught in so many lies in still an open case, why wasn't her stories followed up?
I simply don't believe Jenn Westcott......Oakes. Why not? You offered her immunity, must have believed it then,
and after she failed a poly and then said in a second meeting that she was told about what happened to HA, said "they brought her in a WHITE VAN"...you're right Mr. Oakes you shouldn't believe her. But part of LE is to pick apart lies and to follow up if you think it may lead somewhere. You guys did nothing of the sort. WHY NOT???
Everyone but you guys think it was a good start.
What PROOF did you have that GT was NOT home at the time of the crime. Did you check for foot prints in the snow at his house? Anyone see him at the store...NOPE. But you Dodd convinced a jury that he was there even if the description didn't fit the brothers.
Did you use a line up before the case? Never heard that you did. Is that standard police work in an investigation or is it a way to cover up and convict an innocent man? No line up ...hmmmm.
Why was your story about RT going to MA with HA in the trunk, destroyed in court by two deputies? Is that a lie or just another run around the outside and hope for the best. And you searched the car and found nothing.
Were Stinson, Bivens and Swenkowski given polygraphs?
If it happened T 7:42 am and Bivens saw it then Swenkowski, Stinson should have seen it too because RT left and Swenkowski said he waited for him to back out as he packed his cigarettes in his car.
With all these things pointing to innocent of the brothers, why didn't you look at other people? Did you have a hunch at who they may be? Did you ask neighbors of MB, Steen and Roger if they saw them leave early in the morning? Roger's wife said he did. There's a start and you again failed in your investigation....intentionally?
Lies for deputies on the stand, Jenn W. telling you what you needed to hear, witnesses did not id RT's van, just the opposite, they said (as your star witness Bivens said at first) that it wasn't RT's van.
Have you read any of the comments in the paper or on the web as we have uncovered a lot of loose ends in this case?
Do you guys sleep well at night, when the demons come into your mind. Wouldn't you like to have it stop? What an awful feeling, night after night and now you have the FBI to worry about and they are very serious people.
First one to give states evidence walks and all others will be put in prison!
PLEASE FBI INVESTIGATE THIS EVENT, THE PEOPLE NEED YOU!
November 19/20/17
Van Picture
The van in the picture is a Ford Econoline not a Chevy C-10. Don’t know if
that C-10 description is relevant or not; just pointing out a fact
November 18/17
Fernwood Feed Mill Van
The picture is a little fuzzy, but the Fernwood Feed Mill van looks to be
a darker blue than the van at Manwaring and Route 3. Also, the rear side
windows are different (the lighter blue van has circular windows). It
would be worth a shot for John O'Brien (who switched careers and is now an
investigator with Peebles) to look into the history of this van. We all
know Richard's van should have been returned to him a long time ago.
November 18/17
Oakes
Sounds like Greg Aka the DA, that there's some big boys knocking on doors.
It's not your buddies the Sheriffs. Sounds like your screwed. Did you
truly think your Sheriffs had full jurisdiction. Not when it comes to
corrupt politicians. It's not the Sheriffs making their rounds. It's
officers with integrity.
November 18/17
D&W store front
How in the heck could Richard have fit his van between the pump and Mr. Swenzkowki’s car to park in front of him if Mr. Swenzkowski arrived first? OR was Richard IN FACT telling the truth about parking BEHIND Mr. Swenzkowski per his statements?!! Hmmm, believe a witness who was not given a lie detector test, that we know of, or believe someone who WE KNOW passed a test?!
November 17/17
Lisa P. Email
https://mail.yahoo.com/neo/b/compose?to=Lisa_Peebles@fd.org
November 17/17
People of OZ
(315) 701-0080 Lisa Peebles. Feel free to call her office.
November 17/17
Gary the Innocent Video utube
https://youtu.be/ymo4sNfb4mA
Please share this, it's Gary's song in a video.
Law, won't you let that free man go... Twenty years of himself on a sheriff's shelf, He's been murdered one day at a time. The key that she's held, still she lives with herself -- The truth lies behind those cold blue eyes. The call she made shook up decades Of giving up on hope and life A murderer stands next to me, next to you As we wait in the grocery line. Law, won't you let that free man go. Law, won't you let that free man go. Way down in Oswego County Somebody done collected his bounty. Law, won't you let that free man go. His case was sealed from an inside deal He was sleeping away in his cell. They buried his sisters, mother, and wife, Insisting a personal hell. Will the truth be told from the ones who know Or the ones who have brushed it away. Pry back the boards and show us all toward The free man walking away.Law, won't you let that free man go. Law, won't you let that free man go. Free of guilt but still in prison, Hope of truth this mornin' risen. Law, won't you let that free man go. Law, won't you let that free man go. Law, won't you let that free man go. Free that man that's been forsaken Give him back the life we've taken. Law, won't you let that free man go.
November 17/17
FBI
No one knows what to believe. The FBI has had 4 years to help this case. To bring charges against them. Instead they are focused on Doyle. If Gary dies. I'm sure the suspects are praying to God he does. They will walk Scott free. Totally disgusting. Oakes claims to be a man of God, Greg will be one of the ones he says Go away. I do not know you. He is nothing more than a criminal for obstructing justice.
November 17/17
Curious
Jennifer Wescott was given immunity from prosecution for lying on her police statements....Would all deals be off if the Feds charge her with perjury for lying under oath, in a Court of Law?
November 17/17
Keystone Pipeline Leaks 5,000 Barrels Of Oil In South Dakota, TransCanada Says
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a0dff56e4b0dd63b1a94ade?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
November 17/17
Old Chevy C-10 Light blue van with dark blue doors on Route 3
I didn't get a picture driving by, but it is on Google Maps - taken Oct. 2013
There's a light blue Chevy C-10 van on State Route 3 in between Pulaski and Mexico - with dark blue doors - parked on a side lawn of a property in between Pulaski and Mexico on State Route 3 van before them. Not too many of them that look similar to RT's around, especially in Oswego County. . You can easily see it from the road. It's on the left-hand side if you're heading west (toward Mexico). It looks to be around the same year as RT's, but more closely matches the description of some witnesses. It would be interesting to see who the property owner is or who owned the before them. Not too many of them that look similar to RT's around, especially in Oswego County.
I didn't get a picture driving by, but it is on Google Maps - taken Oct. 2013
November 16/17
Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
To re to me.....
If someone didn't call in for a sandwich then they got it just before HA was taken. HAD to be after 7:42 am after Richard was seen leaving ALONE!!! ( last customer but not the last one to see her alive)
Can anyone find a statement from anyone, including the OCSD that doesn't seem suspicious or looks like a lie?
Does anyone really think the FBI believes any of this child like lies and a Person there at the time of crime but didn't see anything. If Swenkowski was there and saw Richard, then the 7:42 am time is correct...has to be.
Did the person who said he got a call that said "VanPatten ordered the hit" ever tell that to anyone on this case?
VanPatten said there was going to be a big bust and put a "girl" to be used into it. Were there any other female CIs at this time? Why would a cop shoot his mouth off about a bust..THAT NEVER HAPPENED!!!!!?????
Heidi was a CI and Oakes and any other LE, DA, lawyer that says she wasn't is a liar. But why lie? To cover up a unlawful arrest, sale of coke by "others", help those that took her get away with it? The only reason you got away with HA NOT being a CI is because Judge King made sure of it. Signed card, code name, picture, other cops testifying to it...but no she wasn't a CI.
I don't know how you got away with it but I will tell you that if anyone ever did that to me, they better move far away before I get out...this is disgusting and it doesn't even seem to bother you at all. But maybe the FBI can get states evidence if they investigate this joke of an investigation. DOES IT BOTHER YOU GUYS THAT A VERY IMPORTANT MAN WAS IN THE 2014 COURT ROOM AND WHAT HE SAID? Start Sweating.
November 16/17
Lisa Peebles
Would anyone know her direct email or if she has appointments available where Oz people can go to speak to her?
November 16/17
Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
To re to me.....
If someone didn't call in for a sandwich then they got it just before HA was taken. HAD to be after 7:42 am after Richard was seen leaving ALONE!!! ( last customer but not the last one to see her alive)
Can anyone find a statement from anyone, including the OCSD that doesn't seem suspicious or looks like a lie?
Does anyone really think the FBI believes any of this child like lies and a Person there at the time of crime but didn't see anything. If Swenkowski was there and saw Richard, then the 7:42 am time is correct...has to be.
Did the person who said he got a call that said "VanPatten ordered the hit" ever tell that to anyone on this case?
VanPatten said there was going to be a big bust and put a "girl" to be used into it. Were there any other female CIs at this time? Why would a cop shoot his mouth off about a bust..THAT NEVER HAPPENED!!!!!?????
Heidi was a CI and Oakes and any other LE, DA, lawyer that says she wasn't is a liar. But why lie? To cover up a unlawful arrest, sale of coke by "others", help those that took her get away with it? The only reason you got away with HA NOT being a CI is because Judge King made sure of it. Signed card, code name, picture, other cops testifying to it...but no she wasn't a CI.
I don't know how you got away with it but I will tell you that if anyone ever did that to me, they better move far away before I get out...this is disgusting and it doesn't even seem to bother you at all. But maybe the FBI can get states evidence if they investigate this joke of an investigation. DOES IT BOTHER YOU GUYS THAT A VERY IMPORTANT MAN WAS IN THE 2014 COURT ROOM AND WHAT HE SAID? Start Sweating.
November 16/17
Today's Quote November 15/2017
Sometime in the future - 25, 50, 75 years hence -
what will the situation be like then? By that time the Chinese will have the capability of delivery too.
Curtis LeMay
Of Course!!
Yes it does make the Thibodeaus innocent.
Leo Richardson and his brother were once arrested for holding a girl against her will. Leo resigned from his position, his brother was found not guilty. SHERIFF TODD said when asked about why Leos brother still had his job at the Oswego Jail, that "he was found NOT GUILTY by a jury of his peers. There fore by law he is innocent." And would be keeping his position. I guess that belief to Todd is upheld if AND ONLY IF your a political or county employee. Because last I knew. Richard was found not guilty. Yet, Todd, still holds on to, NOT- things they missed but things they covered up. Because and only because they all broke the law to gain this conviction. Now it's protect their own asses, from criminal racketeering and RICO charges. So the more they lie, the better off they think they are. Problem is, back then, social media was not as popular and easy to access as it is now. Now a days being able to have easy access and to see all of the information. It's easy to see, that Richard and Gary were both railroaded, intentionally. Goes back to what Bohrer said,"When you have more questioms than you do answers your problems from within."
Sheriffs give the Thibodeau man back his van. It is not evidence, when it has been cleared by FBI, NOT ONCE, TWICE. The van doesn't even match the tire tracks seen in this photo. Notice the officer bent over. Compare the location of the van to the one given on Bivens map. Not the same location. Their own evidence doesn't match the van you stole from Richard. Cough it up theifs.
Must be Sheriffs don't listen to anyone. Even Wescott told you. "I can't believe after 20 years I have to tell you there is another van." Oz Sheriff dept, simply is sending tax payers on a wild lying goose chase. They have for over 23 years.
November 15/17
Re: Gary Thibodeau.....Death of Common Sense
I don’t necessarily think the person the sandwich was made for “called” the order in. Anyhow, it is a FACT that Mrs. Duell AND Susan Allen testified that Heidi was scheduled to work on April 3, 1994. Note, also, that Mrs. Duell testified that the employee schedule was located on the bulletin board behind the counter? Certainly was not a “last minute filling-in” for the other clerk as some people make it sound. Look at the inside pictures of the D&W and one can clearly see that all a customer had to do was look and see the schedule for themselves. (Bohrer proclaims to be a regular but, conveniently, Mrs. Duell testified at the Hearing that she didn’t recognize him. NOO Duh when one sees the person 20+ years later and not shown a picture from the correct time period. Right, Pietroski?
Interesting enough, Mrs. Granger says in her statement that Mr. Stinson told her that he knew the clerk was Heidi. Mrs. Granger questioned “How did he know it was Heidi” if he didn’t see who the clerk was. Also, Mr. Stinson told her, via her statement, that he went outside to look for the clerk but Mrs. Granger didn’t see footprints around the building. Both of Mrs. Granger’s statements (April 3, 1994 and July 14, 1994) are available at the Oswego County Clerk’s Office or they can be posted here.
Also ask oneself this, if Heidi was kidnapped after making the sandwich 1-Where is the register transaction for the sandwich? 2-Brett should have been able to identify the customer that bought it from photos the police should have taken because “every customer was a potential suspect” or from the customer, themself? 3-Wouldn’t Heidi have put the meat back ASAP after the ham sandwich was made? 4-Bohrer says in his notes that Heidi made his sandwiches good….what kind? Did LE ever think of asking him that? Probably not. 5-What time did Brett REALLY leave the store?
Dodd, I have a main question for you….How can you effectively, unbiasedly, truthfully Judge another prosecutor or defender knowing the dastardly, underhanded, unethical games you played in your ADA/DA tenure? You, sir (and I don’t mean respectfully), should be number one behind bars. Interesting on some of your cross of Defense witnesses and the deputies, it sounded like you were on the defense….we know there are tire marks (that don’t match Richard’s van) but do you know when they were made….do you know the condition of the van on blah day or blah day….sometimes family, friends and loved ones don’t know someone like they think….Where are YOUR FACTS and PROOF that Gary was doing something other than what he and his alibi witness testified to? Mrs. Rain is not seeking another term…may behoove Oakes to follow suite. Get someone with integrity and ethics to prosecute on behalf of “The People”!!
November 15/17
Fools!!
J-Oakes & Sheriffs soon to look like further fools. Lie detector tests and results in the works for Lisa witnesses. When they pass, it'll infuriate the majority. Good luck Oakes. You will need it. New show coming this ones moving fast to save Gary. When results hit. Hope Oakes goes n buries his head in the sand. He deserves, another hard slap.
November 15/17
Time stood still for Heidi Allen
From the article, "Time Stands Still for Heidi": Later, while detectives combed the convenience store and surrounding fields,DUELL WOULD NOTICE THAT THE CLOCK WAS STILL ONE HOUR BEHIND. TIME HAD STOPPED FOR HEIDI.
From the article, " Emotional Testimony Offered" : The cash register detail tape was marked as evidence; Duell made not on a copy of it describing what the codes mean and what each transaction had entailed. She and Curtis had also checked the accuracy of the cash register's clock which HEIDI HAD JUST SET THAT MORNING TO DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME.
November 15/17
Mrs. Duell testified about the register tape, items purchased and time...??
It strikes me as odd that "The time had to be entered into the memory of the cash register. (Tr. 1488)."
Could it be possible that the register tape was...manipulated when the deputy went back on August 11, 1994 to get the register tape from April 2, 1994? Mrs. Duell's OCSD file was tampered with on August 12, 1994.
FACT!!!
Sorry people….those who don’t believe Richard Thibodeau even though he passed a lie detector test given by the Oswego County Sheriff’s. **No disrespect, you really think he could fool a lie detector test? He was the cooperative one…agreeing to the search of his van and giving DNA samples, etc I’d say he was one heck of a confident person that they wouldn’t find anything….because….he didn’t kidnap Heidi, he didn’t help to kidnap Heidi!!**
It Is a fact that he told law enforcement twice, on April 3, 1994 and April 9, 1994 that he paid with 4 $1 bills. In my math book, the cash register should have said one dollar less had Richard actually made that transaction at that time.
BS-“good arrest, good conviction”. Dodd’s theory is they acted together. Did you even read Richard’s statement, Todd? Probably not with your “limited involvement” in the investigation. The burning and burying on Gary’s property didn’t work out for you. The rolled item taken into the woods didn’t work out for you.
November 14/17
Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Re: Another Unusual Reply
I posted that on Syracuse.com a while back and thought about MB and maybe he called to order a sandwhich
to see who was there. Who orders a sandwich at 6am? Did Bret hear the phone ring? Was the sandwich for herself? They missed a lot didn't they.
Another thing that bothered me was Stinson said Heidi was setting the cash register to the wall clock and it was distorted. I've never been in there in 1994 so I didn't know if there was a clock on the wall. But I did see a clock over the counter but she couldn't see it from the cash register...so I was wondering about that also with the other 22k other things in this case.
Funny how many "leads" we the readers have found. Spacecube on Syr.com is a great source, she/he has read the trial transcript and really knows a lot.
Also to the person that posted about Richard taking HA back to the store and the snitches said she wasn't there, wouldn't that make them innocent? But they lied because Swenkowski and Richard were there at the same time and both saw her...BUT STINSON DIDN"T???? Still bothers the hell out of me but I am not accusing him of any crime...just can't get past it.
You have info please post and keep it private if you are scared, or send it to Lisa P. Please, it's been to far gone with this case and the "FACTS".
We must hope for an FBI investigation and I think there may be one as that GUY in court in 2014...who was he, why was he there and what do they know or suspect. Hope there is an H-BOMB coming to Oswego County.
November 14/17
Police Blotter
On 11/9/17 at 9:30 p.m., Roger L. Breckenridge, 49, of 410 W. Embargo St., Rome, was arrested based on a Bench Warrant issued out of Oswego County Court.
Mr. Breckenridge was remanded to the OCJ to await Oswego County Court in session.
November 14/17
Another Unusual fact
We know Bohrer would have Heidi make him sandwiches. That is a fact in this. What is it Stitson describes seeing left in the deli area?? Meat on the slicer. What is it. Heidi was doing inside the store the very moment she was taken? Where was she really standing? Was her back at any point to either entrance? Possibility she never saw it coming. Did someone order a sandwich to distract her? Lots of questions. Most employees do not leave a slab of meat on the slicer. Its typically put back where it can stay cool. It's logical to believe. Someone came in, asking for asandwich.
Here's the proof
If someone distracted Heidi, by the slicer in these photos. In order to operate the slicer. She would have her back to the entrance. Notice the entrance right behind where she would have been located. Where and when is there ever fresh meat left, untouched on any slicer? In April 3, 1994 there was. Was she interrupted in the middle of slicing meat for a Sandwhich? Or was she standing directly in front by the cash register. In both positions, the entrance is behind her.
November 13/17
FOR ME, REMOVING THE MONEY FROM THE CRIME SCENE RAISES ALL KINDS OF RED FLAGS.
Where Is Heidi …. Follow The Money
I don’t know if this has been addressed here or not but why, in the middle of suspected crime scene, did the Sheriffs investigators let the owner of the store take the money from the cash register? The store opened at what 5:00 AM and Heidi goes missing around 7:30? So in 1994 there could have been what $150 - $200 to open and in the we hours of Easter Sunday morning they may have sold another $150 - $200 worth of gas, cigs and newspapers? What possible excuse could there have been for taking possible evidence from a suspected crime scene without it having been tagged, bagged or fingerprinted? I want to here Maurice “are you out of your ever lovin” explain that one.
November 12/17
Usual Facts lol
Does anyone find it unusual if you were to take out Richard or Gary Thibodeau. The distraction. Cross off all lies, or anywhere their names come up. Exclude them as suspects. What is left. Unusual facts.
Fact -Bohrer ran down the road screaming on the phone, to the sheriff's. "I know what happened to Heidi. Call Bobby Wheeler." Connection 1, Bobby Wheeler being known and requested by Michael Bohrer. Funny how Bohrer knew Robert Wheeler by his nickname.
Fact - it is documented in the Sheriffs own writing. Gram Breckenridge had made a comment," That she knew where Heidi was buried but couldn't tell anyone." Rogers own family has a secret.
Fact- Trudy the psychic Bohrer was driving around with. Was once married to officer Lortie. Another connection. Or just a simple fact. That Bohrer is driving around with a huge connection to Officer Lortie.
Fact- Breckinridge and Maynes were making comments of involvement.
Fact-Bohrer met with FBI in 95, was listed as a person of interest.
Fact-They used the idea because Gary and Richard helped search. They must be guilty. Facts, documents, photos show. Dan Barney, David Maynes, Brett Law, Mrs. Kris Duell, partial store owner are all through the old news and helped search for Heidi Allen.
Fact - Sheriffs noted and stated all doors the customers used were unlocked. Oakes suggest only the one was. Which ones lying Oakes or the Sheriffs.
Fact-Sheriff Nellis stated in 94, Gary was arrested because he matched the one who had grabbed Heidi. But Sheriff Todd testified Gary matched the eye witness as a driver. So which ones lying?
Fact - The sheriff's did deny help of 120 investigators from across the state. Denied the help. Then Cuomo sends over 200 national guard and volunteers.
Fact-Kris Duells file was tampered with prior to Gary's trial. She also helped man the search areas. Is this why Rice Road was never searched.
Fact-Several days in to the kidnapping Sheriffs said there was no proof a crime was ever committed and ended the on foot searches.
Fact-Heidi family flew in Benningfield. Benningfield sends request for searches. Thus bringing up the problem. About the then lie, they never denied help.
Fact-Bohrer David Maynes snuck on Gary Thibodeau property at 2 am. He was arrested. His excuse, he wanted to make sure the cops didn't plant anything. Is what he told reporters. What he told police was he was checking on the dog.
Fact-Reporters caught the Sheriffs pulling a shovel with human tissue on it from an investigators vehicle. When asked why they had it. They declined to respond. Smh..maybe Maynes knew Gary didn't do it, cause he did. Knew these cops would plant evidence.?
Fact-They there are to many actual facts in this. To many, unusual coindencences with all the same names. When you minus out either Thibodeau brother. You can clearly see, something's wrong. How Ironic all those same names that were named in 94, 95, reports, news, interviews, so on, are in play once again. Ask yourself. What are the chances. One in a million. An officer once said it best. " To many coincidences equal guilt."
November 12/17
The Innocent in the land of OZ
They don't believe in FBI, that's obvious. They truly think no ones paying attention. Sorry to tell them. They have been implimented 4 years ago. Every move they've made, every lie they've told has been documented. Their clock will someday not tick. The man in court. Was making fun of them. He has far more power than any sheriff with a toy badge. He saw straight through them. One comment he made. "This isn't the first time he was called to OZ." If you ask any of the ones sworn to protect you from OZ, they wouldn't believe their names on any FBI LIST. Sorry to pop their little lying bubble. But there names were given by many. I do not doubt the claims coke was being sold out of any dept up there or by any cops there in OZ, Bohrer use to meet Mr. Bobby Wheeler right across from Medspar, maybe Bobby needs a physical and should tell the truth, before its to late for him. He was spotted repeated times in his black dark tinted window car, parked across from Medspar, with good ol Bohrer hanging from the driver side window. Is that why Bobby, Bohrer says 2 things that should spark anyone. "An officer showing cocaine symptoms on the stand (must be Bohrer was in Gary's court room), that wheelers business is no good." When I personally was asked, who wheeler may be. First response was Bobby. Bobby has always been dirty. That is not something he could seem to hide at all, ever. For the good Sheriffs to put blinders on. God forgive them, they to have a nice spot in Hell, a long with Oakes, Moody, Todd and Dodd. Here's a hint Sheriffs. Many are coming for you. Times passing. In the end, your clock will stop with feds, few dozen cuffs. Do you truly
think messing with a justice dept employee Lisa was going to get you anywhere, it won't. Court order comes in, it'll take from what I am told 6 hours to round you all up. Cowboy FEDS vs cop wanna bees, which ones going to win? Here Oakes a tad bit of a hint. Go pull files on East Coast resorts another coke drop off place. Ask campers from the 90's what Bohrer buddy Fabian was flying in and landing on the water, ask them you worth less DA what it is they saw. Fabian also walked away from Murder charges. How convient. I'll give you one hint. It goes up your nose. You might want to check Wheelers nose, find out why he shows signs of drug use.
November 11/17
Vanpatten corrupt to the core
I once received a phone call. From someone who helped move the van, he screamed, "Vanpatten ordered the hit on Heidi." That I do not doubt. Vanpatten is knee deep in this. He is the main problem. Notice he is no where to be found. Hiding just like the Sheriff. Vanpatten everyone is well aware you are also knee deep in to the drug field. Funny how that all works for you. How is your buddy Leo Richardson, the fella who was also arrested for holding a girl against their will? Whom owned the bar your corrupt ass rated Heidi out at? The bar known as a drug bar. Vanpatten you truly think no one really knows. Many do. Some have made calls about you. Cuffs, a jump suit and some feds, will bring pure justice. Only then, will Heidi and anyone you have ever hurt get justice. When that day comes. Many will cheer FEDS on.
November 11/17
Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
To: Theories up the ass and last witness.
this what I think too. This case has so many holes, you could walk thru it. Loved both of your posts.
Problem is when the Judge, DA and cops are all trying to cover up a bad arrest and conviction it's hard to uncover and get what you want....BUT NOT FOR THE FBI!!!
Nothing in this case makes sense except that LE wanted a quick arrest to put an end to this and not to get themselves in trouble. One poster said a few weeks ago that a retired cop told him that coke was being sold out of the OPD...true? Who knows but I've heard the same thing.
Find the old Peeled Onion blog and read Mrs. Granger's statements when she arrived at the store....
Is that why Mrs. Granger's statements were stamped late?
Face it fellas, the only hope you have for not going to prison is if the FBI or the DOJ or the NYS atty's office doesn't do a full investigation. Only a child would believe any of this investigation was done without corruption.
Nice job Donald Dodd, you got an innocent man put in prison...WITHOUT ANY PROOF! AND THEY DIDN'T MATCH THE DESCRIPTION FROM BIVENS, HE SAID THEY WERE BOTH TALLER THAN HEIDI. RICHARD IS 5'4" AND GARY IS 5'8"....HOW TALL WAS HEIDI?
Does Jenn Westcott feel like an ignored woman after she spilled he guts to the OCSD inv. and nothing was done about it? She told you what happened and you sat there and ignored it. Would you please respond and let us know why?
November 10/17
Theories up the ASS
One theory was Gary and Richard picked Heidi up. Went to Gary's. Gary and Heidi enter the woods. Start arguing, Gary then hits her in the head with a shovel. They then bring Heidi back to the store. Richard forgets his smokes. Upon returning Heidi is missing. Per Baldasaro theory. So who took Heidi after being dropped off?
Second Theory is a witness saw Gary and Richard carry something rolled up and taken in the woods. So if she's rolled up in something and taken in the woods. Then apparently Heidi was never dropped off back at the store, per Baldasaros claims.
Third theory they couldn't have carried her off in any woods if Gary was then blamed for burning her remains in his wood stove and then burying her on his property.
So, some how she removed herself from the store. After coming back from Garys, was then carried off inside a rolled up item, taken in to the woods. Then burned in a stove that sat right beside Gary's home, later to be buried on his property. Quite a series of theories. But these aren't all.
The fourth is opportunity. Crime of passion per Sheriffs comments on Dateline. In turn it contradicts Baldasaro the jail house snitch, who says Richard and Gary planned to meet with Heidi to talk to her.
Opportunity is never a planned event. That’s probably why the Sheriff himself has learned to shut up. "There are no cabins there never were.", " James Steens not a bad guy.",..the Sheriff and it's offices look like morons. No Sheriff the only one out of their ever loving minds are those supporting this conviction and any if you corrupt officials. Due to political status, job title, you name it, it doesn't matter. Right is right "Sheriffs" and this is all wrong. If they support you. Their IQ, can't be to high. There is a point. Bad cops, make them all look corrupt.
November 8-9/17
Bobby Baldasaro
Has anyone besides Dodd seen the notes about Bobby?
HHmmm. A report from Florida probation says they recommend that his probation be revoked and "2 years community control for closer supervision". Notes show that a governors warrant was issued for him. They were going to hold him up in MA so he can testify in NY "then we can justify putting him back on probation". What? He got probation for testifying in NY.
Damn, and I thought it was testified to that neither inmate received any benefit for testifying.?!
It's all in black and white...Bobby did.
November 7/17
Heidi Allen
It is refreshing after all this time to see your readers are getting closer, the post that stated the officer did this and that. the same officer that was infatuated with this new young informer, who lost her card at the same place she was taken from, find out who got her the job. could it be the same officer that happened to pass by that morning and was flagged down, fits the FBI profile, who manipulated the investigation toward the two brothers or others near by.
November 7/17
Here are some more Facts that Oakes and the Leos seem to by pass.
Fact - the same officer whom exposed Heidi is one who met with Richard Thibodeau.
Fact - The same officer exposed her twice, not once as Oakes and Sheriff like to think.
Fact - This officer knew Mensch, whom is great buddies to Dan Barney
Fact - This officer exposed Heidi to Mensch.
Fact - Heidi then vanished.
Fact - They hid all info on Bohrer even though FBI took his statement in 95 and he was listed as a suspicious person
Fact - Dan Barney was real probable suspect
Fact - Store owners file was breached prior to Gary's original trial
Fact - They with held the suspect list
Fact - They with held CI card, per Terry Whipple testimony, "I can not give to defense what was not given to me."
Fact- Gary, nor Sharon ever went to Mass, per Sheriff own testimony and paperwork of them detailing Gary's Cadillac in his driveway the night of April 3, 1994.
Fact - The Sheriff dept and the DA office are habitual liars.
Fact - The higher powers in OZ, have no idea, all eyes from higher authority have watched every move they have made for 4 years for a reason.
Fact - Officer Petrowski disposed of, stole or has hidden evidence. Just may have been caught by higher authority, than himself.
Fact- citizens were complaining even DA Oakes went around spewing an entirely new theory about Gary throwing Heidi remains off a cliff in MASS, even though evidence shows Gary was in OZ, NY.
FACT- THE POLITICAL POWERS DO NOT LIKE FACTS. THEY'VE BOUNCED AROUND COMPLETE FACTS FOR 23 years with nothing but lies.
Fact Greg seems to believe the words only from Baldasaro, but clearly bypasses the suspects own admissions.
Fact everyone but Baldasaro to Oakes is hear say. Even though it's a fact Baldasaro in the Sheriffs papers claims he heard everything from a man named chicken.
Fact- Chicken tells the Sheriffs. He hears nothing from Gary. Is that why Chicken wasn't called to testify.
Fact That Donald Dodd is a dirty ass DA, and Oakes is right on Dodds heels.
November 6/17
Heidi Allen case
I wish that someone would do an entirely factual story from front to back on how the brothers became suspect and one was convicted and the other acquitted. There is so much available for the public to get the facts about.
Juries get it wrong often and that’s why there have been so many people let go over the past 10 years, and more. Mostly because of false convictions due to shoddy DNA testing but others from misidentification and prosecutors who “coach” their witnesses into saying what they think the jury wants to hear to convict.
Didn’t Dodd say during the Hearing that all documents had two stamps and a green mark? Well, where’s those on Mrs. Granger’s statements? “All documents were handled the same.” I think not. Or did you mean only the documents YOU wanted handled that way. Was Mrs. Granger’s statements one of those documents which you wouldn’t say what it was that you weren’t turning over?
Are most prosecutors ego-maniacs?
November 3/17
Brenda Rice....Really
Brenda Rice is Oswego City's version of Howie Hawkins. Runs every couple of years and nobody is going to take her serious. Two minutes of talking to her on the front porch is enough exposure for a couple of years.
Hang it up Brenda...your mouth alone will defeat you.
November 3/17
Lets Get To Know The Real NATE EMMONS
Lets get to know the real Nate Emmons...
Since being elected into office as an Alderman NATE EMMONS has done the following...
1. NATE EMMONS has voted YES to RAISE TAXES.. so his flyer "cutting out the fat" must have a different meaning to Nate Emmons
2. NATE EMMONS voted YES to lay off Fireman from The Oswego Fire Department
3. NATE EMMONS voted yes to layoff CSEA Employees
4. HE DOES NOT RETURN PHONE CALLS WHEN PEOPLE CALL! HOW DO I KNOW? I'VE CALLED MULTIPLE TIMES WITH AN ISSUE IN THE WARD AND HE HAS YET TO RETURN ONE OF MY CALLS!
IF THIS IS HOW NATE IS AS AN ALDERMAN WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT HIM AS A LEGISLATURE?
IF YOU'RE IN THE 15TH DISTRICT, NOVEMBER 7TH MAKE YOUR VOTE COUNT!!!!!!!!
November 3/17
Brenda Rice
Three times the first ward elected someone else and they all were duds.
Maybe it is time for Brenda Rice.
November 3/17
Xpress Auto Care
Beware aware of the crew over at Xpress Auto Care as they are failing inspections on purpose. I was recently there and the crew are a bunch of young punks who lie and falsify documents. I told the crew I was going to report them to the owner and asked for the owners name but none of them claimed to know the owner (lies). After telling them I was going to report them to their boss they wanted to fight; no worries all the guys there weigh like 98 pounds. The main issue is they told me that my inspection failed do to the aliment of my car and I bought my car from a dealer less than a year ago and the car is like brand new; I was also told by other inspection places that it was obvious that they ripped me off as most don't inspect for aliment. Everyone beware and to the owner, you never called me so this is what you have to deal with now!
November 3/17
Past Witness
As far as Appeal and Dodd's or OCSD's credibility in discovery....Why does Pat Granger's first statement made on April 3, 1994 have a Received by Oswego County Sheriff's Dept. stamp on July 21, 1995? Her second statement was made on July 14, 1995. That was after Gary's trial already started. Is it proper to stamp "received" 15 months after the statement was taken?
**Head slap** This is OCSD who allows their deputies to write reports 2 years after an incident related to Heidi.
November 2/17
Death to common sense
Look closer at the Sheriffs time line.
4:19 a.m., someone arrived two hours prior to Heidi and turned the register on. Who, why and did they also exit the building. Sheriffs have, Heidi, Mr. S, Richard and Mr. Stitson all on the scene at the same time. Impossible. Their time lines a joke. Their investigation should not have started at the time Heidi turned on the cash register at 6 am, but at 4:19 am, I am certain the owners of the store should be able to explain who accessed the store prior to Heidi, who had a key and why were they there. No ones paying any attention to the fact the store had a visitor that obviously had access to store keys, cash register keys two hours prior to Heidi. The State police just slapped the shit out of the Sheriffs by saying we do not arrest on pure speculation and we work with FBI. SHERIFFS arrest on speculation, they refuse to work with FBI, the dept is a joke, ransacked by corrupt officials. That's reality.
October
31/17
Gary Thibodeau.....The Death Of Common Sense
Still wondering about all the loose ends in this case (easily found) and the real big one is the time lines at the store.
Stinson (not accusing him of any crime) said he was there at 7:38 after a deputy and himself timed his route and he found out his watch was 3 minutes slower than he thought.
Richard and Swenkowski got there a 7:41.
If Stinson got there 3 minutes before Richard and Swenkowski, why didn't he go into the store? Why did he wait 4 minutes to do so. Had to be after 7:42 per OCSD time of kidnapping by Richard and Gary because Stinson said he did NOT see Heidi....how, just how the hell could this ACTUALLY, factually and really have happened like this???
And he said he did not see anyone or any vehicles there, but Swenkowski did , Richard did, they both saw Heidi, but Stinson said he didn't see Heidi. Swenkowski testified that he saw Richard leave the store ALONE. But still Stinson said he saw nothing and then entered the store, and no Heidi.
HOW COULD THIS HAVE HAPPENED???? And was this addressed in the grand jury or the first trial. See people it is impossible for Richard and Gary (who was not seen there, by ANYONE) to commit this crime.
I know what my opinion is, what's yours?
October
30/17
RE: So what's up with this jeep and wagon business? Wouldn't that be considered theft of services? A lot of questions to be answered.
When Kells took a trailer from the citys old equipment and had the DPW fix it up there is nothing wrong with that. When he had it delivered to his house to be used for his Halloween hayride then it became theft of city equipment.
When he took a Jeep from the city impound lot had the mechanics fix it up filled it with gas at the city pumps and then delivered to his house to pull the hay wagon that was theft of services, theft of gasoline and grand theft auto.
The mayor knew and so did the police chief.
October 30/17
Heidi
The FBI profiler said that the person that abducted Heidi Allen would be someone obsessed with the case and someone that would try and involve them self in the investigation. That fits two people I can think of Michale Boher and Lisa Buske.
October
24/17
I to hope it's their turn...
October
23/17
Deadline: Crime with Tamron Hall "The Vanishing Clerk"
I watched. One of the most noteworthy quotes from the show was when Lisa Buske, Heidi's sister, said that one can't form an opinion simply from reading the news. I believe she was referring to the recent revelations however, I'd like to take it back to 1994/1995 when the jurors spoke anonymously after the verdict. They, or only one, commented such as "they made the van move", we didn't believe Gary's alibi because "we thought she was trying to protect her man", "they must of had plastic in the van". Forming a personal opinion about the defense witness/es. Specifically, that Richard's (Teresa) elderly family members testified about his alibi but was having a difficult time remembering a timeline without opining the same for the eyewitness who was much younger that "I don't recall" often when questioned by the Defense. Facts via witness testimony show that it was impossible for the van to have moved the way it did in the time period testified to. Gary's alibi was acquitted of lying but not until after Gary's conviction. There was no evidence via testimony that suggested there was plastic in the van. If that's what the jurors based their verdict on, their own possible theories, they are just as wrong in their decision as the DA is for continuing to punish Gary "The Innocent" Thibodeau. ALL the theories of how Gary and Richard could have committed the crime of kidnapping Heidi have been debunked. She wasn't burned and buried on Gary's property as the inmates testified to as evidenced by no DNA evidence or any link by the FBI. The taking Heidi to MA in the Caddy theory was debunked by proof via Gary's alibis' charges for perjury relating to
going to MA being dismissed and no evidence that the rolled rug, or whatever was claimed in the show, having any link to Heidi. No surprise that Lisa B. gave up hope on finding Heidi alive after 10 years when the DA claims that Gary and Richard "brought her to a place never to be found". "We just know they did it but can't tell you how, why or where". That's Justice? For Heidi's or Gary's family? Justice would be following up more stringently on the "boasters" because at the very least 3 cadaver dogs indicated in an area similar to where one of them claimed to have taken Heidi's body and the Fact that Jennifer Wescott failed her lie detector test and then went for another interview with the DA present and was recorded saying what she knows. And, IMPORTANTLY, Richard and Gary both passed lie detector tests. Richard-just 6 days after Heidi disappeared and Gary-a year or so later after the conviction. Why wasn't Gary given one by the Sheriff's before his arrest?
October
23/17
Even Juors didn't care
Is this what Lisa Buske is defending a case with no evidence not a drop. A case where the jurors were taking naps and reporters not only witnessed this, they wrote about it, in between naps LISA BUSKE they asked for a case of beer. Your sisters case has been nothing more than a joke. Fight away Lisa til you die, your fighting nothing. You've ALLOWED this along with your family.
October
22/17
Lisa Buske
What is it Lisa has done to actually fight for her sister? Not a damn thing. She's done nothing but pamper those who created this mess. While helping hinder an investigation. She's nothing more than a direct road block to the truth to what happened to Heidi. I'll tell you Lisa no one will help you any further. You are the reason no one else will come forward. You support the DA claiming your sisters a druggie and your Aunts a LIAR. Great support for your sister. One person of higher statue said it the best. Lisa you are simply not smart enough to figure out you have been fooled. Keep supporting them. Lisa why not tell the truly good folks of Oswego about your bull shit even with Dateline. Walking off the set when asked if you or Heidi were druggies. But yet support the DA DODD WHO CLAIMS YOUR SISTERS A DAMN DRUGGIE. YOU MAKE NO SENSE. NONE. Eventually even all your lies are going to come out. Then Lisa every one will know exactly who you are. A me,me, me type person. Not once have you ever truly helped your sister in any way. Not once since this entire thing began have you even met any of the witnesses only slammed anyone trying to help Heidi. Karma Lisa will come your way. SO quit asking anyone for help. Most people know your a self centered me, me, me type person that had no real relationship with Heidi. You are a fool, and a out right fake.
October
21/17
October
16/17Anne Bronte
More
secrets of the inner workings at the DPW.
We the employees for the city of Oswego DPW. Are instructed to dump our waste from our Vector truck (sewer vacuum) not all storm runoff sometimes sewage is involved. We are instructed to go up to the east side Reservoir behind the mental health facility and dump our thousand gallon tanks on the trucks in the woods. Somebody with the know-how and big enough balls needs to go up there and take a soil sample. I really don't think this activity is legal. But from the corruption and crazy things I have been seen happen around town, I would not know where to start you can't call the police because they have an agreement to immediately call mr. Kells if it's a city issue. I have witnessed that myself at my residence. With the discussion of Sergeant Berger stating mr. Kells has never been issued a badge. then why did one of your young rookie officers override my request to make a report to Oswego PD. And denied me that right. Is there anyone out there that can help.
October
15/17
The faces have changed but the city is right back to where it was when Gosuck and Dumbsmoor were running it.
Here's a good laugh.
Corruption at the DPW led by mr. Kells, just another bit of news to our taxpayers I bet you are not aware that Kells has an agreement with scriba we go out there and cut trees. With our tree truck chipper a supervisor his pickup truck and normally one more vehicle to carry guys roughly up to eight guys go on these Journeys to scriba. I've been on 5 of the trips myself, this is been going on since Kells took office. Is it just me or has any other taxpayers seen scriba DPW in the city limits working off the trade agreement of the tree removals. I have never witnessed scriba in our city doing anything. Oswego city DPW has spent a lot of money out in the town of scriba !!
October
13/17
Racetrack IDA Corruption
The track is owned by Oswego IDA/Operation Oswego who are running an illegal slush fund, revolving loans to each other. Tom Kells DPW commissioner with zero qualifications is a recent board member. This is the connection to much of the corruption between Oswego and NY State. And Kells orders the OPD to stand down on every complaint.
http://rptsweb.oswegocounty.com/report.aspx?file=&swiscode=351200&printkey=
12806000010010000000&sitetype=com&siteNum=1
https://osc.state.ny.us/localgov/audits/ida/2015/oswegoco.pdf
October
11/17
County of Oswego IDA
· Established an unauthorized revolving loan program, using its own funds, to finance a portion of the cost of projects. The IDA had 90 loans outstanding as of May 31, 2014, totaling nearly $9.6 million that were financed by its own funds.
· There is no formal process to compare current and projected jobs at the time of application to the reported number of jobs actually created and retained.
· Auditors found 31 companies that received loans only created half of the jobs they said they would create. http://www.osc.state.ny.us/press/releases/apr15/042815.htm
October
11/17
Re: Free Water
Let's see now…
There's a City of Oswego fire hydrant, hooked up with what appears to be a brand new fire hose supplying “FREE WATER” to the Oswego speedway.
Question’s; a) Where did the hose come from? b) Who was responsible for hooking it up? (Who authorized this?)
NOW! There just happen to the “Official Safety Truck” from “Safety Solutions” Parked on an off this past weekend at the west side fire station. (Solves where the city owned fire hose came from.)
But more questions’: Who owns the truck? And is it an Oswego City fireman? Just have to check the “duty roster” and fined out who was working this weekend…
Then fire Oswego DPW Commissioner Tom Kells and whoever hooked up that fire hose to the hydrant.
October
10/17
Re: FYI...Oswego Speedway Water Draw Free Water
That's an expensive piece of city owned hardware lying on the ground. It's a wonder that someone didn't run over it? Trucks pulling campers, big rigs, dark at night, or stole it? And if a fire had broke out in the city and the fire dept. needed that valve... been hell to pay.
October
10/17
More on OZ Speedway
Just read the news article on the ownership and promoters that are getting million dollar handouts from the Guv Cuomo for this Super Dirt Week event that claims to draw 70,000 tourists to OZ when in fact the facility can only seat 5,000.
As it goes the promoters and speedway owners have out of state business addresses that happen to be income tax free from taxes. So tax payer money is going across state lines and not back in the community.
Kells and the people that are city workers need to go to jail for there actions of double dipping and giving the speedway free handouts at the expense of senior tax payers getting shafted for these increases to subsidize others pockets.
How bad can it get?
So, after reading all the apparently factual info on the water stealing at the speedway, the Board of Education actions, Port Authority being mismanaged, the disappearing soybeans, the most well known area bank not being responsible with tracking missing receipts and financial responsibilities connected to this,, the whole DPW debacle, misuse of funds, resources, etc. The need to run misdeeds of city workers past Mr. Kells' when reporting a traffic infraction and dangerous driving experience to the Police Department... The OPD hand in hand with the DPW, school busses speeding through the city,. The new construction with questionable debris removal, without appropriate permits, safety features in place, hazmat issues, training issues, etc. These posts go on and on. Questionable mayoral campaign donation sources, apartments with prostitution running rampant....
Can anyone tell me...Where do these statements end up? Is it all a joke? Is all this a sick source of a type of entertainment? Or if true.... All just under the proverbial rug? Everything from- unsolved murders to stealing city resources and taxpayers money? If this is all factual, backed by tángible sources, facts, photos, and witnesses, how can these very public and well known incidences go uninvestigated? Why is there no official investigation or powers in place putting a stop to it, arrests, fines, or governmental interference and stops put in place? How bad can one city get before someone, something bigger and more powerful steps in?
October
10/17
If you will recall it took the State Police, FBI and US Attorney to get rid of the Gosek Mafia.
This bunch seems determined to out do them.
Today's Quote October 3/2017
Just because something doesn't do what you planned it to do doesn't mean it's useless.
Thomas A. Edison
Person Of Interest VANISHED
Michael Bohrer a person of interest in the disappearance of Heidi Allen has himself dropped off the radar. Bohrer who was arrested in relation to the abduction of another woman in another state testified at the 2014 Thibodeau hearing. While he had been seen since the hearing he seems to have completely vanished in the last 8-10 months. If anyone knows of his whereabouts send a message to this site.
October 3/17
Mr. Mayor and Mr. Kells
Is it true Mr . Kells that you watch your workers on GPS, instead of driving around, and surveying the work that has to be done ?
This is about you ,Mr Kells and your lack of construction and people skills. The mountain must be tall at your house, but you are three feet tall in mine !
I hope the new aldermen have more backbone than the out going bobble heads ! I guess siting around sucking coffee, is how they get there pat on the backs !
October 3/17
Today's Quote September
14/2017
I believe that the way people live can be directed a little by architecture.
Tadao Ando
Donations "friends of Billy barlow"
September
13/17
Lest we forget Wheeler
What's that I read? At the pre-trial Hearing in 1995 Wheeler testified to not knowing that Gary was a suspect in MA? But...he received the warrant via fax in 1994 and the notes show he was at the brief on April 15, 1994 when Gary was named as prime suspect.
Now, why was nothing done about Wheeler's verifiable, blatant, proven lie under oath?
Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense
Does anyone think it was suspicious:.. that Jennifer Westcott didn't tell the inv. that she lied until after they told her the phone call was taped?
...that Oakes brought Tonya just to discredit her
...that Oakes said he didn't believe anything JW said but offered her (per JW) immunity
...that Oakes said he didn't believe Tonya but wouldn't give her a poly that she asked for
...that JW was just trying to appease her and get her of the phone. "I won't lie to ya"...JW to Tonya on the phone.
...that Oakes never mentioned that JW kid accidently hit Tonya's phone mumber
...that the whole phone call per OCSD may have been stagged. Yeah JW is going to put herself into a crime
..."I guess I was just confessing I had Heidi Allen in my house"...Jenn Westcott....remember she said she never lived there
...that JW said "I never said anything about them bringing her in a WHITE van...yes people sha said a WHITE van. The inv. then said "no, that isn't what you said".
...and then goes back and tells them that she was told what happened to HA.
IF THIS ISN'T A CASE ABOUT CORRUPTION, LIES, MISDIRECTION, SUSPICIOUS ACTIONS BY THE OCSD, A COVER UP, OCSD KNOWING WHO REALLY DID IT, DEPUTIES SELLING COCAINE, KICK BACKS AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT GOES INTO A CORRUPT SHERIFF'S DEPT COMMITTING A CRIME...THEN PER SOMEONE ON OSWEGONYLION STATING THERE WAS AVERY POWERFUL MAN IN COURT THAT HOPEFULLY WILL START AN INV INTO THESE TWO CRIMES..ONE BY THE KIDNAPPERS AND THE SECOND ONE BY...A BUNCH OF CRIMINALS COVERING THEIR ASS...I AM WAISTING MY TIME. BUT, IF THEY DO GO DOWN AND THEY ARE TAKEN TO TRIAL JUSTICE ON BOTH ENDS WILL WIN!!!!
The worst cover up since the JFK murder. Just read it, Swenkowski, Richard, Stinson, Bivens is all you need to read to know something fishy happened here and I dare any DA to PROVE this crime happened the way they said it did. IMPOSSIBLE ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE. You guys made a lot of mistakes.
August 30/17
Dodd
December 8, 1994-Pre-trial motions which include request for discovery-the partial transcript page from Exhibit #28 of Oakes’ filing to the Motion to vacate says, “The Court: He doesn’t want to tell you what he’s holding back, Mr. Walsh.”
December 14,1994-Fahey went to inspect discovery material-
Viewed tapes, photos, etc…”a copy of the entire Oswego County Sheriff’s Department report relative to this criminal action”.
Why did this not include the bulk storage material from the search center? Those items were no less a part of “the entire OCSD report” to this criminal action? Had they been made available to Fahey on December 14, the CI index card would have been “found” then instead of May 1995.
August 29/17
Today's Quote August
12/2017
Dreams will get you nowhere, a
good kick in the pants will take you a long way.
Baltasar Gracian
It Begins
Garys appeal was granted permission to proceed.
http://cnycentral.com/news/local/thibodeau-appeal-to-be-heard-by-state-court-of-appeals
August
12/17
Cabin diggers
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2014/07/search_for_kidnapping_victim_heidi_allen_
turns_up_recently_disturbed_site_where.html
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2014/10/two_more_cadaver_dogs_alert_at_cabin_site_
searched_for_heidi_allens_remains.html
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2014/07/search_for_heidi_allen_at_cabin_ends.html
http://heidiallenarticles.blogspot.com/2016/05/there-never-was-cabin-trust-me-oldie.
html#!/2016/05/there-never-was-cabin-trust-me-oldie.html
Moe says, “There are no cabins, trust me.” There never was.?
Coward…won’t publicly respond to being Wrong!
And, what’s up with taking a small excavator to the site After the ME
completed their forensic examination? Look at Lt. Moskal’s affidavit #8.
BTW…Wasn’t Darron a prosecution witness? He built the “cabin”, aka “fort”
for a youngster, and he testified that his grandfather, the landlord of 68
Rice Road would not live with his tenant in opposition to what D. Purdy
testified to. Darron also testified that he would mow Purdy’s lawn and
take care of their dog Because They Were Not At Their Residence. Trust
Me…if one was at the Hearing, one would KNOW the testimony.
I believe the good people who have come forward, risking ridicule and
naysayers, more than I believe LE who has proven time and time again to be
fabricators and twisters of facts. Kudos to all who take that risk. Their
information is invaluable to the Big Picture.
Thank you for posting on your site the Facts and Truth about a case that
has riveted the community for 20+ years. We want the entire truth and we
want Heidi found!!
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August
12/17
Old News revelation in Heidi Allen Case
Maybe you or someone in public land would care to discuss the likely
reason that Oakes filed a dismissed charge against a woman who claimed to
have received Heidi’s bracelet in the mail years later. Interesting enough
about that dismissed charge is that Auntie, apparently, swapped Heidi’s
name for true person, and maybe twisted some other details? A whole slew
of other witnesses’ past, wasn’t filed for the hearing. Was Auntie mad
that someone other than she, from the family, spoke up to say something
other than “We trust our law enforcement”? Auntie admits after 20+ years
that “they kept it a secret” that Heidi was a CI. For 20+ years of lying,
what credibility does she have to say that Heidi was in trouble and that’s
why her husband got her into being a CI.
What do you think? Am I being illogical or rude for talking about a family
member like that?
Sad Really that Heidi should and could have been found if not for people
not wanting to take responsibility for their part in her disappearance.
August
12/17
Oakes' roadside conference where possible remains of Heidi may have been disposed of
First…didn’t 3 cadaver dogs indicate near the same spot?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAYEGqat9wU
Notice at the beginning of the video where John O’Brien is asking questions and Oakes blames him and an investigator of disturbing the area?
Notice the dates the following statements were given to police and the date of this roadside conference:
3 years later and still no apology even if Oakes didn’t know right away, surely he should have at some point soon after the conference. It didn’t occur to him that he publicly, falsely accused the wrong people of disturbing the area? (A little attention to detail may help solve the problem and answer the Question!!) AND why were the disturbers excused? Oh, that’s right, because Todd says there were no cabins back there so there was no reason to believe that Steen told Tonya about disposing of Heidi’s remains there. I get it!!
August 10/17
Reply to death of common sense
Funny you knew about the big person who was present in court. You also knew exactly what was said. Wonder if the Sheriffs or DA are smart enough to figure out who was that was sitting on Garys side. Very few knew this person was in the court room. Very very few knew the exact comments made. You are absolutely correct. I also agree with this person present during the hearing. I do not think no matter what the courts say or do. In the end, the entire Oswego County will be taking a hit. Like one they've never seen before. This person has far more power than the little DAs playing a game. We will see, but I do think you are 100 percent correct. This person was NOT fooled by these idiots in Oswego and they made that very clear. But how you knew, is beyond me. You even quoted them correct. Not very many knew what was ever said. They also stated they could solve this case in two weeks. Seems the Sheriffs cant even after twenty three years. They did not pull the wool over this persons eyes. This person has far more power than even little Sheriff Todd.
August
10/17
Reply to Heidi Case
Good question seeing as not only did they pass lie detector tests, they passed pubic hair sample testing, cleared on DNA with all vehicles and on Gary own land. Why was it David Maynes was arrested for trespassing on Gary Thibodeau property at 2 am, he claimed he was snooping to make sure cops did not plant anything. Also why is it they continued this after they removed the judge whom would not let Dodd break the law. Look in to the other cases in the county that went on in 1994/1995 you will find Dodd could not get a conviction in the higher level cases with out a jail house prisoner. The lies Dodd even told about Sharon when Sheriffs officers testified that the Thibodeau's were home the evening of April 3, 1994 and not in Mass as Dodd like to make tall tales that seem to be contradicted by the Sheriff Dept. Why is it Nellis stated that Gary was arrested because he fit Bivens description of being the one dragging Heidi from the store but Todd testified it was Richard dragging Heidi from the store. To Heidi family, all respect is given but until you stop standing with the liars, you will get no further help from anyone in the public, You claim you want people to come forward but when they do you criticize them. You have souly stopped anyone from wanting to help your family. No one will come forward any further after the insane crap going on with this family. Back in 1994 not only did the family attempt to shoot at Richard and Heidi's fathers guns were taken, they then Martha Sturtz says rearmed the Allen family, I quote the uncle if we want to put a bullet in Richards head, we have the right to express that. In reality no you did not,
its assault and you all should have been charged, if you succeeded in killing one of the Thibodeau brothers, you'd have been right along side of Gary in prison, but should rightfully have been there. He should never have been there. The Allen family has not been honest and it is sad, seeing as Heidi is still missing, seems they are doing nothing to help find her. They knew then she was a CI and lied to the public. My compassion goes to Heidi and not to her family whom has done a ton of hiding information for what reason? Her being a CI is important it opens doors to what may have happened to her, your family secret is NOT and WILL never be worth the life of Heidi. EVER. I will quote Fredrick Lings and Richard Stepien as they testified, they admitted the Thibodeau's were home the night of April 3, 1994 not in Mass as Dodd tried to claim for grounds to arrest Sharon. Ling said, " On April 3, 1994 around midnight, I jotted down the license plate number of the Cadillac." Well per Dodd's lies, he claims this Cadillac was in Mass. If you can not see the lies Lisa B, you shouldn't be printing any books, or blogs in regard's to your sister. Stitson also called you out on your own lies built and written in your book. Pretty sad, all of these lies are why Heidi has never been found. Dodd calls all claims against his dept. "baloney." Guess the Allen family never noticed another murder case going on at the same time as Gary's. Chavez-Flores case in 1995 in which case again two jail house prisoners were used at the same exact time and I will also quote Lanza, "Its Ridiculous, why can't cases be judged on merits, the Da can not win a case in this
county with out jailhouse prisoners." I will quote myself he can not win a case without lying either and I guess the Allen family never noticed any other cases unfolding the same EXACT way. They violated every possible law to gain this conviction and Gary's case was not the only one. During 1995 Dodd had another case tossed, why cause he had two theories. SO- tell us if Gary buried Heidi on his property, like DA suggests, then why is there a theory he fled to Mass? Two theories, ILLEGAL and this case should have been tossed. In the end it will be. This is where the idiot OAKES came up with this new theory he told to citizens as he made his rounds in Oswego during re election. He claimed to citizens that they tossed Heidi's remains over a cliff in MASS. If you believe that shit story that came from DODD, seek mental help Oakes. Two officers already confirmed that was an out right lie, that you continued to spread to the public a few years ago. (which originated from none other than DODD) When real honest people start to stand up and do the job the Sheriffs refuse to. Then this case will explode and hopefully men in real suits will come wipe out the entire legislative branch of Oswego. The old news is making its rounds and this case has become a national disgrace.
August 4/17
Richard Thibadeau's Van
In The Possession Of The Oswego County Sheriff's Department.
All of the doors are black and
there is a large black stripe down each side.
Only the front is all white
OCSD investigators took statements from people describing a white van and or a light blue van.
A 10-year-old with 20-20 vision or a visually impaired 110-year-old will tell you this is not a white van.
This is a BLACK AND WHITE van.
ANYONE WHO GAVE A DESCRIPTION (from a view other than head on),
WHICH DID NOT INCLUDE THE COLOR BLACK,
DID NOT SEE THIS VAN.
Inside sources say the OCSD has recently conducted yet another search/inspection of Richard Thibadeau's van and again found no DNA or any other evidence.
That is at least twice they have proven there is no connection between Thibadeau's van and the disappearance of Heidi Allen!
Fire department
Does anyone know if our resident fire department THIEF is one of the firefighters being laid off? If not he should be.
Looks like he is trying to impersonate a Fire Chief, maybe he is going to apply for the Chief's job next year.
This is OZ he/she could be the next chief.
Who made a noise
In David Stinson's statement, given on 4-8-1994 @ 3:56 pm, he says: "This all occurred in about 1-2 minutes. I waited a few minutes for the clerk. I remember hearing something in the back room to the left.
This sound reassured me that someone was there and I waited patiently for the clerk."
To the left? By the back door, the one not everyone knew about? The one the "family" used? Look at this picture closely, see the plywood covering up the old back door, to the left. Who was back there?
September 29/16
If the back room looked anything like what can be seen outside the back door he probably heard rats.
Today's Quote September 22/2016
“We were making the future, he said, and hardly any of us troubled to think what future we were making.
And here it is!”
H. G. Wells
I read what you did, and we all know who you are!
I read what you did, and we all know who you are! Donald Dodd, Reuel Todd, Greg Oakes, Mark Moody, Daniel King, and Donald Todd
As a citizen of this county, you all work for me, not each other. This is too inform you that I am calling you out, for the truth !
I have read all of the information you filed. There is no glaring evidence against Gary Thibodeau, because if there was, you would have had to file it. Further witheld evidence
would constitute another Brady Violation. I pondered today what in the world the former jurors were told in Gary's trial by you, Donald Dodd. Your timeline is preposterous. It is not even worth mentioning. Reuel Todd, please tell me what led you to the Thibodeau brothers? I cannot find any supporting documentation that sends the case towards them. A criminal never calls and identifies themselves, as being at the scene of the crime. Who is Borrelli, and why were you going so far as to talk about him being in a photo line up for the clerks at the D&W 4-16-1994, but on 4-14-1994, Borrelli was given "walking papers" yesterday. That would have made it 4-13-1994. On 4-15-94, you say:" Is it time to do a photo line up on Borrelli?" So you gave Borrelli "walking papers", I believe that means you let him go, on 4-13-94, but on 4-15-94 and again on 4-16-94, you were going to have the clerks at the D&W look at his picture? But after 4-16-94, Borrelli is never mentioned again.
On 4-14-94, the lead sheet says, "Danny Barney, has come into view as a probably suspect". On 4-15-94, the lead sheet says: Wheeler interviewed Dan Barney yesterday,
at length. Believes Barney is not a suspect." Where are the notes from the interview with Dan Barney? 4-15-94, it says, "late yesterday, Gary Thibodeau, entered the picture as a possible suspect. This developes from a lead that came in early on." Where is the lead, Moe? I can't find any documentation of a lead about Gary, being a suspect. Who told you Gary had a crush on Heidi? Or that Gary was ever coming on to Heidi? The only documentation about anyone coming onto Heidi, is in her diary, about her boss, Matt Duell, not Gary.
The case against Gary Thibodeau, regarding Heidi Allen's abduction, is all like the above mentioned fairy tales. This person is a suspect, no, we let him go. Hey, this person might have done it, no, we talked to him and he said he didn't do it. So you decided amongst yourselves, to pin it on a person and his brother, that you had no evidence against, only a citizen that was trying to help you.
So I say that the Appellate Division will get the public the answers we have been seeking for 22 years. Dumb of us to ever believe that our District Attorney's Office, or
Sheriff's Department, were honest or truthful. All you were looking for was someone to blame it on, to puff yourselves up, but I'm sure soon, it will be deflated, like yesterday's
birthday balloons. The public doesn't believe you, trust you, or support corrupt officials.
WHERE'S HEIDI?
September 22/16
Oakes habitual liar
Oakes you are a bold faced liar anyone with a computer and access to this blog can see how much of a liar you are. In 1994/95 arrest and conviction of Gary Thibodeau. Fahey repeatedly requested the CI file, he was told Allen wasnt an informant. He then requested a dismissal due to with holding of evidence. The old news reports do not support Oakes bull shit lies. Fahey over and over called Dodd, out on this CI status and requested her entire CI file. Again they played the Allen wasnt a CI. http://heidiallenarticles.blogspot.com/?m=1 take the time to study openly on your own. The DA office are hubitual liars and so are the Sheriffs. Request a state police if you need an officer. The lies are sickening. The Sheriff dept. Should be shut down.
September 22/16
In Again Out Again Breckenridge
Roger Breckenridge out of Prison
Identifying and Location Information
As of 09/21/16 DIN (Department Identification Number) 13B0403
Inmate Name BRECKENRIDGE, ROGER L
Sex MALE
Date of Birth 08/11/1968
Race / Ethnicity WHITE
Custody Status RELEASED
Housing / Releasing Facility GOWANDA
Date Received (Original) 02/14/2013
Date Received (Current) 06/03/2016
Admission Type
County of Commitment OSWEGO
Latest Release Date / Type (Released Inmates Only) 08/25/16 PAROLE DIV OF PAROLE
Crimes of Conviction
If all 4 crime fields contain data, there may be additional crimes not shown here. In this case, the crimes shown here are those with the longest sentences.
As of 09/21/16 Crime Class
GRAND LARCENY - NOT AUTO 4TH E
Sentence Terms and Release Dates
Under certain circumstances, an inmate may be released prior to serving his or her minimum term and before the earliest release date shown for the inmate.
As of 09/21/16 Aggregate Minimum Sentence 0001 Years, 00 Months, 00 Days
Aggregate Maximum Sentence 0004 Years, 00 Months, 00 Days
Earliest Release Date
Earliest Release Type
Parole Hearing Date 06/2016
Parole Hearing Type PAROLE VIOLATOR ASSESSED EXPIRATION
Parole Eligibility Date 10/24/2013
Conditional Release Date NONE
Maximum Expiration Date 11/02/2016
Maximum Expiration Date for Parole Supervision
Post Release Supervision Maximum Expiration Date
Parole Board Discharge Date
http://nysdoccslookup.doccs.ny.gov/GCA00P00/WIQ3/WINQ130
September 22/16
Today's Quote September 19-20/2016
“Whether one eats a cat or not is a personal choice, and I don't want to sway anyone one way or another.
But if you do, there is one obvious cooking tip: Always remember to remove the bell from the cat's collar before cooking.”
Mike Royko
Gary Thibodeau...The death of common sense
Are the prosecution witnesses really witnesses as to what they saw or are they just a link to a prosecution procedure that convicted an innocent man.
Witnesses provide information to help the prosecutor convince a jury that a person is guilty as charged.
- Dave Stinson: was there from 7:41 - 7:45, waved down a deputy but did not tell him that he saw a kidnapping.
- Richard was there and left at 7:42 and was seen by Stinson (at least he had to be) but not seen kidnapping HA.
- Stinson walked in after 7:42 and no Heidi. Now how could Richard have done this in one minute, with Stinson being there but did not see anything. He also never mentioned that he saw anyone let alone Gary.
- Mr. Swenkowski said he watched Richard leave the store and then left. He was there at 7:41 also.
- Swenkowski also saod he saw one person.
- Two people there at the time of the crime and saw nothing.
- Bivens said he saw two husky men and a women but NO TIME WAS MENTIONED IN THE DA's STATEMENT OF FACTS.
- So this makes a question of when Bivens was there. Had to be after and close to 7:42 according to the OCSD as that is when Richard bought cigs and left.
- How could Bivens see the crime and Swenkowski and Stinson didn't although they had to be there at the same time because Stinson walked in at 7:41 and no Heidi.
- Bivens stated that he did not remember telling a deputy later that he had driven by at 8-8:30. He saw the crime, then Stinson has to be mistaken about HA not being in the store. Which could happen but he flagged down Deputy Curtis and he also checked for Heidi...not found.
- Stinson said he saw two husky men with a girl in the parking lot. He said there wasn't anyone or cars in the lot.
Wasn't Stinson and Swenkowski there per their statements. Swenkowski also said the deputies tried to convince him that his time was off but he stood his ground on the time he gave.
- I personally don't believe Bivens was even there..(just my opinion). His time is way off and no time was recorded when he first gave his statement according to the DA's Facts...no time given with his statement. Why not?
- Then we have Gary going to a MA prison and snitches give stories that we now know are not true.
- Bottom line: two witnesses there at the time of the crime but did not see Richard taking Heidi. Bivens saying he saw two husky men taking her (but no time was given by him) but Swenkowski and Stinson were there and did
not see anything.
To the DA involved in this. You sir have NO WITNESSES AT ALL! Maybe a story teller but if at least you should have had three witnesses. Bivens could not have seen a crime between 8-8:30 because the OCSD was there at that time.
I submit to you that you set up a frame of Richard and Gary Thibodeau (and a bad one that is full of holes) got bad info from snitches who I think lied and their statement proves it.
So I am going to ask in this paper right now to Donald Dodd to please answer my question: How did three people there at the time of the crime and two didn't see anything and one who didn't even know or did not want to tell what time he was there, which had to be around 7:41-7:42 did see the crime?
If I were you, I would be afraid, very afraid of a federal Investigation. If no investigation happens if Gary wins his appeal, call your state representative, senator and anyone else that would help.
THIS WAS A SET UP AND A FRAME.....BUT YOU'RE NEXT!
September 19-20/16
Buske Book
The book is largely based on secondhand information from the Sheriff’s Department, the District Attorney’s office and family members. The Sheriffs lied, the D.A. lied and the family lied so that basically makes the book fiction.
September 18/16
In order to have cellmates they would have to be convicted of something bigger than a misdemeanor.
The Heidi controversy
I was under the direct impression. Heidi switched her schedule with Sally Brooks. Who was suppose to be working at the Fish on in port Ontario. Either way. There are conflicting stories from Heidi family and the DA office. If she was not scheduled the only ones who would be aware of this switch. Are her family, Brett and DUELLS, in which case Ms. Duell file seems to have been tampered with. Very convenient. No one else would ever have known. Unless Heidi told someone. I very much likely doubt that was her topic of discussion.
September 18/16
Re: Gary Thibodeau and the Other 10,000 a Year Wrongfully Convicted in America
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-cost-of-convicting-the-innocent/
2015/07/24/260fc3a2-1aae-11e5-93b7-5eddc056ad8a_story.html?utm_term=.05f3b81d0ced
September 18/16
Re: Whos Lying
We know the Family lied, The OCSD lied and the DA lied.
Since the book is based on information which mostly came from these three sources then the answer to the question is everyone.
September 18/16
It's common sense
Why would Donald Dodd or Todd know more. Hmmm, maybe because they supposedly investigated and prosecuted this case.
No matter what you post. The fact is. They should have known. Both her sister and their dept. All have different times,
ones clearly lying. I'll bet it is not Lisa Buske, but the DA office that was said in 1994 to be out of touch with the public
and their mistakes cost human lives. They were also in trouble back then for many different reasons. From lying, to
prosecutorial misconduct. If you read the old news. You'd be well aware of their tricks. I highly doubt her sister is bull
shitting anyone in her book. But I do not doubt that the DA office did a ton. Many people do not agree with your
questions as to how could Dodd or Todd know. Well in order to prosecute this case you'd think they should have.
Ridiculous remarks.
September 18/16
OAKES STATEMENT OF FACTS, FILED OCTOBER 2015, PAGE 12, FIRST PARAGRAPH:
Heidi often offered to work on the holidays.
Regarding Easter Sunday, another employee Sally Brooks, and Heidi, were willing to work; initially Ms. Brooks
was scheduled to open, but she had another job that needed her that morning. Therefore, Heidi agreed to open
the store that morning.
"WHERE'S HEIDI" BOOK WRITTEN BY HEIDI'S SISTER, LISA BUSKE
CHAPTER ONE, PAGE 24, FIRST PARAGRAPH:
The day started like Easter Sunday did in other small American towns. Heidi arrived at work early, anticipating
the time she would spend with family and friends later in the afternoon. She volunteered to cover the morning shift
so a coworker could spend the holiday with her children, even though it meant she would be the only one working at the store.
(FYI, THE DUELLS NEVER HAD MORE THAN ONE EMPLOYEE WORKING THE STORE AT A TIME)
I BET HER FAMILY KNEW WHY SHE WAS WORKING!
WHY WOULD DONALD DODD OR REUEL TODD KNOW MORE?
WHAT IS THE TRUTH, WHO IS TELLING STORIES?
September 16/16
If She was working for someone else how were Gary and Richard supposed to know this?????
Did Deputy Van Patten drop her work schedule in the parking lot?????
More questions
Why was the first register tape transaction 4:06?
Why does the book say Heidi started work at 5am?
Why does testimony show Heidi started work at 6am?
Why does testimony show Heidi was on the schedule to work that Sunday?
Why is a “story” that another person was originally scheduled but Heidi took over instead?
Why does testimony show Brett left at 6:35am that Easter morning but the book says around 7:15am?
The inmates statements were taken mid-July.
Why did OCSD get the transaction tape from April 2, 1994 on August 11?
Why was Mrs. Duell’s file tampered with on August 12?
Why did Bivens testify at Grand Jury that he was in the D&W parking lot and the only car there was Heidi’s, his first
statement says he went by the D&W between 8-8:30 but his testimony was leaving Oswego at 7:30am, and his
testimony was about witnessing a physical altercation?
How could Richard and/or Gary have possibly gone to the D&W the morning of April3, 1994, taken Heidi to near Gary’s “to talk to her” brought her back to the store before anyone noticed her gone, made a purchase and then kidnapped her with the time between ALL the customers that were there the morning of April 3, 1994?
Final answer-People lied to help get a quick conviction, in hopes of finding Heidi or “getting their man” to placate the community after Mr. Benningfield told the searchers that the kidnapper could be standing there next to them.
Lisa-you did the research years ago. You know part of the Truth….that Gary and Richard are innocent. Do what’s right. You have plenty of support. Stand up to your family and the lying people you have, unjustly, high regards for.
September 16/16
Murtagh
Here is a direct link to the comments Murtagh has made online. The top comment reads.
FBI on case has been on it for years they feel they have the right guy in jail
Posted on Key Heidi Allen witness texts pal: I lied to police about what I know
10/24/2014 10:32 AM
Which is an out right lie. As we are all aware FBI Points to Bohrer. In 1994 they testified then that there was no link between the Thibodeaus and Heidi Allen.
Murtagh also can not deny it was him. Several times. He makes it very clear. It is him.
Please ask john on this he knows who I am ( Rich Murtaugh )
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/12/2014 8:28 PM
http://connect.syracuse.com/user/rich_murtaugh/index.html
He openly admits twice of removing a van from Valley Road in Fernwood. But no ones paying attention.
September 15/16
Murtagh Confirmed
Murtagh confirmed no caddy in his posts online. So where Oakes got that from is beyond me. Murtagh admits and so did Breckenridge of picking up a van at Gary's. But no idea of a caddy.
I believe he said I towed a van from there not a caddie .. Jmo though
Posted on Oswego County DA: James Steen is pathological liar, but not Heidi Allen's killer
10/22/2014 8:33 AM
Don't no nothing bout caddy
Posted on Oswego County DA: James Steen is pathological liar, but not Heidi Allen's killer
10/22/2014 2:55 AM -Richard Murtagh. So if Oakes wants to use a hearsay witness. He should probley listen to the tower, that was there. No caddy. Sorry Oakes. You did lie in your filing. Little or big, it's a lie. You were giving some impression that the Caddy Dodd brought up was disposed of as well. It is not the truth.
September 15/16
Who's lying game!
Time to compare some facts, between the book, "Where's Heidi", written by Lisa Buske, sister of Heidi, and DA Greg Oakes, Statement of Facts, filed October of 2015.
STATEMENT OF FACTS, page 1, SAYS: On Easter morning, April 3, 1994, Mr. Law arose at 5:45 am at Heidi's residence. He and Heidi left the residence at ab out 5:50am, and Mr. Law followed Heidi to the D&W Convenience Store. Heidi drove her maroon 1984 Pontiac Sunbird Station Wagon, and Mr. Law drove his 1987 Ford Bronco. They arrived at the store at 5:55 am.
Lisa Buske's Book says: Chapter 3 "A Time to weep" , Paragraph 3, page 35: As my parents settled into their swivel chairs, Ed sat on the couch while I snuggled into my favorite childhood chair. We heard Brett's black Dodge Cougar pull into the driveway then Heidi's feet skipping through the kitchen.
Chapter 1 Page 26: At 5 am, on April 3, 1994, Heidi opened up the D&W Convenience Store, located at the intersection of State Route 104 and State Route 104B, and her boyfriend Brett came along to keep her company until the store got busy. Brett often accompanied her on those early mornings.
STATEMENT OF FACTS page 1, last paragraph, last sentence, SAYS: Mr. Law left at about 6:35 that morning.
Lisa Buske's Book page 26, last sentence, says: Brett left the store around 7:15 am
Who's wrong? Who's telling a story? What was Brett driving, a Cougar, or a Bronco? Hey Oakes, did you ever check your "facts"? These facts, are very important, maybe you don't know which is true, who's playing the liar game?
September 15/16
RE: Lies more lies Oakes
Oakes is using classic inadmissible hearsay and uncorroborated rumor to bolster LE’s theory of how Richard and Gary were involved?
Did Mr. Neadle testify? Did Mr. Neadle hear Gary say what Mr. Maynes claimed?
Wow, would have expected more from a top LE official. You studied this case for how long? Shame on you for believing/going along with the sham.
Love all the documents you provided in your Statement of Facts, Affirmations, and Exhibits. Can you publicize more? Please!!
September 12/16
Lies, lies, lies
1. Gary "confessed" to 2 inmates.
2. Illegal search of Gary's property that yielded evidence of Heidi.
3. Phone wire taps.
4. Human bones in furnace.
5. Remains in rolled rug of blue van.
These lies are so easily exposed from the documents made public in DA Oaks' filing it's borderline comical that some people still believe them.
Truth, truth, truth
1a. news article 1995-Dodd says inmates did not say Gary admitted involvement. This is corroborated by the inmates' statements, trial testimony, and by more recent interview with a news reporter.
2a. Fahey tells Judge in pre-trial Hearing there were 2 searches of Gary's property. No pre-trial Hearing was held due to illegal evidence gathered and testimony reflected details of items seized and/or sent to FBI lab. Both searches occurred while Gary was incarcerated. First search on or about June 22, 23 when furnace was seized. Second was on or about July 24 when property was searched and 5 cadaver dogs brought to site with no alerts of human remains. There is indication from Oaks filing that the July 24 search was by warrant. NOTE: blue van was on property for all days of searching and evidence gathered from that van was also testified to.
3a. Phone records were subpoenaed for the MA witnesses. These witnesses were incorrect about Gary and Sharon being in MA on April 3, 4, 5 with a broken down Caddy because deputies positively viewed the Caddy at Gary's property during that time frame.
4a. Testimony shows that no human remains were found from forensic testing and bone fragments were more consistent with animal.
5a. Evidence first gathered from Richard's van on April 9, 1994 which showed no evidence of Heidi "ever" being in that van. Evidence showed that van was seen at a car wash after April 9. Piece of rug that was missing since the first search was found on Richards property. Property receipt given to Thibodeau's, forensically tested to reveal canine DNA. Witness statement about Richard and Gary seen disposing of a rug in the woods with Heidi's remains was proven false by evidence that Richard was working at the time and no physical evidence that Heidi was there (law enforcement physically went to location). Testimony shows that evidence was taken from the blue van during the search on or about June 22 that did not link to Heidi. Testimony from recent Hearing shows that after August 1994 when the blue van was junked, there was no evidence of Heidi in a rolled rug that was in the van.
Questions that should be answered:
Why is there a 40 minute gap between Brett's testimony of leaving the D&W and the time the book says?
Why did law enforcement and family say Heidi wasn't a CI when a Sergeant recognized her as a CI?
Why wasn't the bulk storage Heidi file boxes made available to Defense?
Why weren't the fingerprints from the index card used in conjunction with the notebook fingerprints?
How did Mike have a fax statement of Bivens with the Oswego County DWI unit phone number?
Why was the first time on the register transaction record 4:06?
Why did Brett testify in Gary's trial that Heidi wasn't afraid of anyone in particular but in Richard's he mentions Matt Duell?
Why does Dodd affirm during a pre-trial Hearing that he was withholding information and wouldn't say what he was withholding if he was going to make "the entire OCSD file" available to Defense?
Why wasn't the fact that Sharon and Richard were acquitted of their charges relevant to Gary's Appeal in 1999?
Why wasn't Wheeler reprimanded for lying during a pre-trial Hearing?
Why isn't Pietrowski being held accountable for missing texts?
Why does Todd keep lying to the public?
Why doesn't Oaks do what's right in the miscarriage of Justice?
How could Heidi's family stand behind law enforcement after all that has been made public?
Why was Jennifer the only recently named given a polygraph?
Why is law enforcement covering for convicted criminals when 3 dogs indicate in an area related to the boasting of several criminals?
Why was an excavator brought to the cabin site without the medical examiner present?
When will the Appellate Division begin hearing oral arguements?
Why was it not relevant to Gary's jurors that several witnesses admitted during trial to misconduct by law enforcement in relation to their written statements?
When will the insanity of "Justice was served" end?
Who will be the first to "tell the whole truth and nothing but the Truth"?
Who will man-up and answer - WHERE'S HEIDI?
Compare the theory of Gary and Richard being involved in the disappearance of Heidi and what is known as Fact and compare that to the recent revelations.....#FreeGary.
September 11/16
Lies more lies Oakes
This is how bad the DA office adds to words from Witnesses. Read #179. Bold faced lie. Oakes directs you to exhibit 12, as proof. He says that Roger towed a van and a CADILLAC off Gary's property. Exhibit 12 from Mr. Needles. Says no such thing. He only says that Roger and David Maynes towed a van off Gary's property and Gary was passed. David was bragging about getting arrested for trespassing on Gary's property. Well, if the old junk van sat on Gary's property for over ten years. And it did not run, move, and was never owned by Gary. But the DA wants to give the picture this van could have been used and David and Roger disposed of it. Please, explain why Gary would be pissed for them disposing of what Oakes would like to believe was evidence, or the possible van used. Give me a break, I'm certain if it was, he would have been relieved they got rid of the evidence. Oakes, you sir, are the dumbest DA in this country. You also claim that Kidnapping/murder/disposing of a van across the country lines has a five year statue of limitations. Murder DA jokes has no limitations nor does the evidence in its case. Disposing of evidence with possibly a murdered teen, disposed of in Canada, has no statue of limitations. You sir, must truly think the citizens of Oswego are morons. See attached comments, exhibit 12 and Jokes statue of limitations of five years, to help protect a convicted Murderer Steen. I do not know which ones more psychotic. Ocsd, DA office, or these suspects.
September 11/16
To Oakes
It can't be simple. Either way. You do not think outside of the box, let alone inside of it. Richard or as your exhibit 12 mr. Needles calls him Dicki Murtagh actually plastered across the internet one night, that he and a employee did haul a van out of Fernwood, off valley road at a red house. Now this red house was very Good friends to Michael Bohrer. It couldn't be Oakes that they covered their ass by moving a van off Gary's property. So they could move this second van on Valley Road. And say it was the van they moved off Gary's. Oakes you can not possibly be that stupid. It's common sense. In which case you lack a shit load, I believe you should track down Mr dicki and request he explain the white van they removed off Valley Road, in Fernwood, for Roger Breckenridge. Around the time of Heidi. If you need a copy of those messages. They can easily be supplied. You also cannot claim it wasn't Murtagh who posted them. A reporter called him out online confirming it was indeed Richard Murtagh.
Omg please no mistake we (3 of us) picked up two vans at gt house ... Me roger & a 3rd person picked up a dift van in fern wood I can't tell you where it was but I'm sure I can drive right to there like I did last week going to Gary's house ( that I had only been to twice before in the 90's
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:25 PM
It was a red house is all we can remember
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:17 PM
I'm sorry I don't I'd just be guessing but one of my helpers just asked me if I remember going to fern wood to get a white van at 1st didn't remember but after talking a bit I do now
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:08 PM
No in fern wood ( I think that's how you spell it
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:05 PM
Omg I don't know I just remember him coming to me wanting me to pick one up for him .. Never gave it much thought till tonight talking it over with my staff
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 10:55 PM
You all ready for this one ????? I do remember going with RB to fern wood to pick up a white van that he had to junk back around same time of the ha deal
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 10:52 PM
Copied right from Syracuse.com, I think you need to start using the laws set in place that were meant to help victims. Not protect murderers.
I'd also explain to Dickie, those involved. Do not get the reward money.
Is there still a cash award up & if so how much is it .. What you got to do to receive it ty
Posted on Judge in Heidi Allen case reverses decision, will allow DA to respond to wrongful conviction claim
9/19/2014 5:48 PM
Pretty sick Murtagh plastered that across the internet. Then requests the reward money. What a great guy. With zero conscience.
September 11/16
Mrs. Duell testified about the register tape, items purchased and time...??
It strikes me as odd that "The time had to be entered into the memory of the cash register. (Tr. 1488)."
Could it be possible that the register tape was...manipulated when the deputy went back on August 11, 1994 to get the register tape from April 2, 1994? Mrs. Duell's OCSD file was tampered with on August 12, 1994.
RE: Questions to be answered
Deputy Curtis testified in the original trial that the money from the register was deposited in the bank. (DA's Statement of Facts does not state this.)
CI
-Sergeant Lortie specifically calls Heidi a "confidential informant" and recognizes her name from working with the ACT team.
It appears his involvement with the case after this report became limited?
-Family, LE and Dodd's denial that Heidi was a "CI".
-Neither VanPatten nor Mrs. Duell notify Heidi or the family of the information dropped in public.? (Thinking they may have considering Brett would stay at Heidi's work until customer traffic picked up.)
-The informants card, photo, etc was "lost" from the time of the Heidi Center move until it was "found" in bulk storage within OCSD on May 16, 1995.
-Pre-trial Hearing Judge's acknowledgment that Dodd was not going to say what he was holding back as far as discovery.
-No mention whatsoever from either Defense or Prosecution during Gary's trial that Heidi may have been a confidential informant. Dodd didn't carry the card, photo, etc...to the original trial? There were 2 prints on the card taken to the Heidi Center right after the disappearance but LE used notebook prints instead? One would think the prints taken in a controlled manner would be more relevant?
-Mrs. Burr recently signs a statement about Heidi's involvement with LE in an informant capacity up to a short time before her disappearance. Brett's recent dialogue with Oakes about Heidi being afraid of a "coke-head" that lived near the D&W.
**"Good arrest, good conviction"....PPPfffttt**
September 9/16
Lorti Report
“Writer and VanPatten returned to the store and were informed that Inv. Scruton could not locate C.I. file for Allen. VanPatten was Allens contact for ACT Team so writer asked VanPatten if he turned the file over to Inv. Scruton. He did not recall Allen as a C.I. in 1991 until writer reminded him. VanPatten then called the office and had someone check his mailbox. The file was located and relayed to the crime scene.”
Sgt. Lortie’s report 4/27/94
When you see the date of this report 4/27/94 you have to wonder if it was the original or a revised report. Otherwise why would it take 23 days to get it done.
I think everyone knows cops will not rat out other cops but honest cops will not take a hit for crooked ones either. If you ask an honest one to give a statement or testify they will often tell you the facts as they happened. They will not volunteer anything someone in authority has to ask. In many cases those in authority know or suspect the answers they will get so they do not ask the questions, i.e. Watergate and Serpico.
At any rate that just may be what is happening in the paragraph above. After 23 days Sgt. Lortie has had time to think over what has been going on.
VanPatten somehow manages to lose Allen’s picture ID card indicating she was an informant, and he does it in the parking lot where she works.
Three years after working directly with Allen as a Confidential Informant he tells Sgt. Lortie he does not remember her. Then in the next breath VanPatten knows exactly where to find Allen’s missing C.I. file.
At that point someone should have been asking VanPatten to account for his whereabouts on the morning of April 3/1994.
re Timleine
According to testimony from Brett Law, he left the store at 6:35am BUT according to the book “Where’s Heidi” page 27, Brett left at 7:15am. Which is it? It makes a VERY big difference. 40 minute difference. The difference between the inmates being truthful or not.
According to the timeline, there were no customers between 7:20am and 7:38am. That would leave 18 minutes for the “confession” to be true.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/43.4794607,-76.3313641/427+Kenyon+Road,+Mexico,+NY+13114/@43.4530542,-76.337867,12z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x89d9cf6a2081d4f5:0x52037ef6ff1a0e38!2m2!1d-76.2014678!2d43.4278613!3e0
It takes about 16 minutes one way from the D&W to Gary’s house.
September 8/16
Questions That Should Be Answered!
Sunday, April 3 1994 @ 2:00 AM was the beginning of daylight savings time.
Was every witness interviewed asked if they were referencing their recollection of time based on standard time or had they set their clocks ahead and based their statements on savings time????
“The first entry on the tape was 4:06 when the cash register was turned on.”
“When Heidi arrived at work she set the time on the cash register”
“The detail tape then showed three zeros and then gave the correct time of 5:55 am.”
Therefore Heidi “started her drawer at five minutes to 6:00 am.”
If Heidi was setting the time on the register because of daylight savings time Then the register should have shown the time as 4:55 when it was turned on.
Why was it at 4:06? AM? PM?
Did the register keep the correct time?
“6:16 am no sale entry on detail tape (Tr. 1515)”
Nine minutes before her boyfriend Bret Law left the store someone hits the no sale button presumably to open the cash drawer. Did anyone balance the money in the drawer with the sales listed on the tape? Was all accounted for? If the answer is yes then what was the reason for the no sale entry?
At 5:45 Bret and Heidi wake up.
At 5:50 the two get in a car and drive to the store.
Are we talking about a couple of average teenagers or is this Wonder Woman and Superman?
Come on, who do you know that wakes up from a sound sleep, gets dressed, brushes their hair, maybe teeth and puts on makeup and is out the door in five minutes?
Scientifically impossible
If you actually looked at the timeline.
At 7:41 stitson arrives, at 7:41 a man cashes out he buys one pack of smokes and two newspapers. At 7:41 Stitson describes the store clerk missing. At 7:42 Richard shows up buys smokes. In the mean time. The 7:41 customer packs his smokes in his car, watches Richard enter and exit the store. Mean while stitson in the store waiting on the clerk, as Richard passes him, cashes out and is never seen by Stitson. As Richard cash out time was 7:42. So the kidnapping didn't take place from 7:41 -7:42 it took place between 7:43/7:44. At 7:45 a cop was on the scene and at 7:45 a van is seen in the town of Mexico ten miles away. By science you'd have to be traveling over 150 mph to make it in two minutes to where the van was spotted in Mexico. The time line is scientifically impossible. How does Heidi, the newspaper customer,Stitson and thibodeau all appear on the scene together. No one saw Gary or Heidi being taken. How do you travel 150 mph, on snowy roads?
September 7/16
Here's another exaggerated example of OCSD, AND DODD.
SOMETIME between 7:30 / 7:45 a.m. umm not. Richard never cashed out until 7:42 a.m. the van was seen three minutes later at 7:45 a.m. we know she had cashed Richard out at 7:42 a.m. So between 7:43/7:45 is the only time that van could have been spotted in Mexico. Two minutes. Use a speed converter online you are up over one hundred and fifty mph, they'd have been traveling to be in Mexico at 7:45 a.m. Dodd did nothing but cross witnesses with other witnesses and confuse everyone with so many times, dates and so many witnesses. He messed up. Four people would have been on the scene. Not just Richard or Stitson. But the man whom bought the two newspapers clearly says he sat in his car for a minute and watched Richard exit the store. So that would have taken place after 7:42 a.m. we can determine these times due to the cash register receipt and the evidence Dodd entered in court on his time line of events. Which none of it adds up. There was no 7:30 a.m.to 7:45 a.m. Richard had not cashed out yet. So if the van was seen between these times. It clearly wasn't Richards van.
September 7/16
Bobby Wheeler
Timeline:
April 14, 1994-Bobby interviews Dan Barney "at length" but doesn't take notes or record the interview.?
April 14, 1994-Gary becomes "prime suspect" in briefing which Bobby attended.
May 19, 1994-Bobby receives fax from MA police about Gary's warrant.
May 25, 1994-Gary arrested on the warrant.
Late July 1994-Bobby and Herb interview both inmates.
April 18, 1995-Bobby testifies at a pre-trial (Huntley) hearing that he didn't know Gary was a suspect before his warrant arrest.
May 1, 1995-Fahey files pre-trial Motion, in part, to request sanctions against Bobby for lying during the pre-trial Hearing (Huntley Hearing).
September 7/16
Re:Gary Thibodeau
Whoever you are supporting Gary Thibodeau and ripping apart the filing from the DA, outstanding. Some things you posted. I missed. Keep it up. They deserve any humiliation that comes their way. If the community cared about their environment and the sick things the DA and Officers in that county have done. They'd have a better community and safer community for themselves and their families. Instead the majority doesn't stop to smell the roses. If they did. They'd realise they do not smell so grand after all. It takes a big person to not only help, but to spend time paying attention and caring about others. Many have helped. Many still are. I can not wait to see these aholes from Oswego face the lies they've dished out for years. I can only imagine how many other cases they have botched to get a conviction. Dodd was told then you have zero evidence. He will be told again, in supreme. How awful a person they all are for incarceration of an innocent man. Dodd deserves prision, Oakes to be removed from office, sheriff Todd deserves to be a greeter at wal Mart. Petrowski deserves a set of cuffs. Wheeler prison, along with any idiot officer that helped go along with the bull shit in 1994/1995. I pray that they all have repercussions they can not stop. They have put many people through abuse of power. That's exactly what they used to get any convictions through that made zero sense. Gary deserves more than just his freedom. Hopefully with good citizens like you Gary will gain just that.
September 3-4/16
Gary Thibodeau
What is wrong with this timeline found at the end of Oakes’ Statement of Facts filed during the Hearing?
No other customers at the D&W between 6:35am that Brett testified to and a customer, Mr. Wiltse at 7:38am? Why do notes from the Exhibits show there WERE other customers that made purchases between those times?
If Heidi was scheduled from 6am to 3pm, why is 4:06am first reported on the register tape if Heidi didn’t arrive until 4:55am(excluding the hour of DST)?
This timeline Can Not be accurate but was presented at Gary’s trial.
September 2/16
Today's Quote September 1/2016
“Too much agreement kills a chat.”
Eldridge Cleaver
Oakes and Dodd, including Todd
They are not dealing with a small town attorney. Lisa Peebles is a powerful person. If anything happened to Gary, it does not mean any of this is going to stop. Gary asked Lisa if something did happen to finish this case. To clear his name and to bring Heidi family the truth. So no matter what they do. This is not going away. Gary's case will hit supreme court and national news. It's far from done. It has only just begun. Oakes is simply a coward. He questions the integrity of the sheriff dept and the investigator but stands by the fraudulent case. Then you got Todd who says he had very little to do with this case back then but stands by a case he seems to have had very little to do with. But a whole lotta say on what's factual or untrue. Wouldn't be because his brother helped Dodd prosecute this case. Couldn't be to much pride, based on nothing but lies. Pathetic. Supreme court on Gary's last case. They made it very clear. That just the diary wasn't enough to over turn the conviction. Many cases have been over turned for far less and many have had probes in to the cases and activing investigators, and DA office. Gary will go home. It's just a matter of time.
September 1/16
Today's Quote August 31/2016
“If you don't think too good, don't think too much”
Ted Williams
Thibedeou
I hope Garys lawyer files a big fat lawsuit on the county when all this is over.
August 31/16
Gary Thibedeou
What is the Oswego Sheriff hiding? This case was a giant miscarriage of justice. Let Gary free before he dies in prison.
August 31/16
I think that has been the plan all along. Oaks keeps waiting until the eleventh hour to file documents. He and Dodd hope Thibedeou will die in jail and that will be the end of it all. This whole thing has the same stench as the Tony Pauldine trial and the get-out-of-jail-free deal that was given to Smegelsky.
Today's Quote August 30/2016
“If I were dying my last words would be: Have faith and pursue the unknown end”
Oliver Wendell Holmes Sr.
Gary Fiasco
Re Todd, Moody, Oakes, Dodd
"After twenty years I can't believe I have to tell you there is another van. " Wescott
"If you look in to reports of a van watching the video store CLERK in 1994 you might find information on the van." -Bohrer 1995 FBI statement.
"I asked Murtagh if I had hauled a stolen van used in Heidi kidnapping." -Steen
"The van we hauled off Gary's property sat out there for over ten years." -Breckenridge
" I do recall moving a van for Breckenridge back then off Valley Road. -online statement from Richard Murtagh
"Steen and Roger were talking about getting rid of the van, I was afraid Roger would go with Steen. She left came back. Roger left early that morning his ex wife says.
Ocsd, and the rest of the bafoons also have Stitson there on the scene by their time line as Richard and Gary would have pulled off this crime.
There was a scratch in the panel of a bath room wall. On the interstate headed towards buffalo. The said Heidi Allen was a rat. Hmmm wonder who was using the interstate towards Canada. Maybe the fellas junking the van. Just a guess. This will all be exposed, in supreme. Jennifer Wescott was given repeated chances to tell the entire truth. I think even her chances are up. Such a believer in God Jennifer was during the hearing. She better start praying.
August 30/16
Dear Todd, Oakes and Dodd
If Dave Stinson was at the D&W from 7:41-7:45 and Richard bought cigarettes at 7:42 plus kidnapped Heidi, why didn't Stinson see the crime?
Never mind, it'll come up in the appeal trial.
August 28-29/16
Time line at D&W doesn't make sense: From the DA Statement of Facts.
7:41 Stinson arrives at the D&W
7:42 last transaction on register...Richard bought cigs.
Stinson must have entered the store just after 7:42 between 7:42 and 7:45.
7:45 Stinson waves down Deputy Curtis 3 minutes after Richard left. How could he not have seen Richard taking her?
Stinson was there from 7:41 - 7:45 when he flagged down the Deputy.
Richard bought cigs at 7:42 and left presumably with Heidi Allen and Gary kidnapping her but Stinson didn't see him.
So Stinson must have entered the store after Richard left and no Heidi.
Why didn't Stinson see Richard kidnap Heidi, he was there one minute before the last sale at 7:42 which we are told was Richards.
7:45 Mrs. Fabin sees van swerving behind her in Mexico
7:48 Brittany Link sees Richards van at Garys
So that means Stinson didn't see him but he was there.
Richard drove from the D&W at 7:42 to Mexico and then to Gary's all in 3 minutes.
Who was there from 7:42 to 7:45 when Stinson waved down Deputy Curtis?
How could this possibly happen? Why isn't there a time for when Bivens went by the D&W in the DA's Facts? He said he didn't recall telling a deputy that he dove by between 8-8:30 and saw 2 men abducting Heidi....impossible, Stinson said she was gone when he entered the store at about 7:42.
There's something really wrong going on here.
August 25/16
Watch key witness in Heidi Allen kidnapping case take lie detector (video)
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2016/05/watch_jennifer_wescott_lie_
to_the_lie_detector_in_heidi_allen_kidnapping_case_vi.html#incart_river_index
May 11/16
ONLY WE CAN PREVENT FORESTS
Today's Quote May 6/2016
"Religion is the opium of the masses."
Karl Marx
Do You Want This Guy Spraying Hazardous Chemicals
In The Parks Where Your Children and Pets Play?
Council Poised To Reconsider Herbicide Vote
Council awarding contract to fireman's business, ???????
http://oswegocountytoday.com/council-poised-to-reconsider-herbicide-vote/
MOE AND MINI MOE
Jan 11/16
Neither the
Federal nor the State governments
have ever mandated that
the City of Oswego
raise its water or sewer
rates.
Anyone who says they did
is a F**KING LIAR!!!!!!
Today's Quote August 6/15
“It's your life. Live it with people who are alive. It tends to be
contagious.”
Peter McWilliams
Oswego Firefighter Sentenced
Last night in Minetto Town Court Oswego firefighter and former Minetto
fire chief Joe Smegelsky Jr. received the maximum sentence of $1000 and
two years probation despite arguments from the District Attorney Greg Oaks
and defense lawyer Timothy Kirwan. They had hoped for a lesser sentence
but based on information in Smegelsky's pre sentencing report the maximum
punishment was handed down.
An audit by the State Comptrollers office found that Smegelsky had taken
funds and used a department credit card to purchase a handgun, automotive
parts and assorted items. He also created a fictitious company which sold
fire equipment from undisclosed sources to the Minetto Department.
District Attorney Oaks repeatedly argued for special treatment because
Smegelsky had paid back slightly less than half of what the Comptrollers
office found. However the fact remains he paid nothing back until he was
caught.
Joeseph Smegelsky Jr.
Below is a copy of the District Attorney's plea bargain and his
explaination of how they arrived at it.
If you enjoy fiction you will love this.
Today's Quote, January 26/15
"I am not an enemy of the negro, we want him here among us; he is the only
laboring class we have."
Nathan Bedford Forrest
OSWEGO’S LILLY
WHITE RACISIST FIREDEPARTMENT
One week ago we celebrated Martin Luther King Day. I am sure members of
the Ozwego Fire Department seized the opportunity to rack up some double
overtime but that is about the only use they have for non-whites.
Since its inception in 1876 the Oswego Fire Department has been as white
as the driven snow, with respect to the color of its members that is. In
its 139 year history there has never been an Asian, Black or Hispanic
member. If you think this somehow reflects the population then you better
take off your blinders. Oswego’s elected officials and Personnel
Department have long allowed department members to live as far away as
Montour Falls, Watertown, and Groton. There is no way you can cast a net
that far and say, that population is reflected by our department.
In the late 1980’s there was young Black man working for the local cable
company who sometimes frequented the Fire House Tavern as did members of
the OFD. The firefighters exam had been announced and he was asking some
of the OFD members if they thought he had a chance of getting in. He
received all kinds of encouragement while he was there but after he left I
overheard two of the Heroes chuckling and say no way they were going to
let him in the department. “We have Guinias and Polocks and that is as
integrated as we are going to get.” I do not know if the man ever took the
test but the fact is that department remains as segregated as the day it
was formed. They are allowed to operate as their own little fiefdom
picking and choosing their own white membership and no one has the balls
to put a stop to it.
The next time our Senators and Congressmen come around for their photo ops
with our Hero Department we should all point out to the national media how
they are supporting a racist organization. Perhaps we should ask the NAACP
how this has been overlooked by their organization for so long.
Jan 26/15
OSWEGO NY FIREMAN CHARGED
WITH FELONY THIRD DEGREE GRAND LARCENY
Joseph Smegelsky
Audit of Minetto fire chief charged with misusing $22K in funds for guns,
motorcycle parts completed
"This individual had keys to the cash register and went on a spending
spree with the fire company's money," DiNapoli said in a statement.
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2014/12/audit_of_minetto_fire_chief_
charged_with_misusing_22k_in_funds_for_guns_motorcyc.html#incart_river
Dec 20/14
Today's Quote, July 2/14
“Thieves respect property. They merely wish the property to become their
property that they may more perfectly respect it.”
G. K. Chesterton
Oswego's finest screwing the taxpayers once again spotted at Dicks
Sporting Goods in Great Northern Mall on 6/22/14.....didn't know they sold
food there....or were they perhaps getting a new set up clubs at our
expense??? Would still like to see the tab for the turning stone
"conference" they went to....a whole weekend at the turning stone???
meals, rooms, drinks, etc???? The worst part is it will never change. No
matter who is mayor they will always be controlled by the f.d. and no one
will run against our current council members. Oswego has become homeowners
to few (I stand corrected good homeowners) and is a city full of renters.
July
2/14
That was probably just Smegelsky picking up some
guns. They should be checking the video at Dicks to see who was with him.
That hero should be arrested too.
July
2/14
Minetto Chief
People like that are paranpiod about someone else stealing what they just
stole so naturally he would need to get a gun to protect all his or should
I say our stuff.
July
2/14
Yes, they are not as correct as they should be as I left off the 2
additional firemen that go out on Ambulance #2 and many of the other
expenses that can be attributed to the ambulance service . In reality here
is a $300,000 loss each year without he expense of a new ambulance. The
point is, we will never make a profit on this service; have a fully
qualified ambulance located in Oswego (Menter) that can handle all
emergencies; could cut 15 men from the department with all their benefits
and return $2,000,000 to the taxpayers; while cutting the long term
obligation of retirement and the padding of such for years to come.
Unfortunately, the obtuse Mayor, Council, and most of all ,Fire Chief,
have another agenda and it is not in the best interest of he taxpayers.
McCrobie probably was, at one time, a good fireman, but as a chief and
leader lacks in total credibility. The way overtime is handed out only
shows that he is helping to bump up he retirement of the soon to retire
firemen by thousands of taxpayers dollars. There is a belief that hey will
all get their turn is the OT merry-go-round, but the fact is, the tier 6
firemen will never see that benefit. The new anti padding law passed and
signed by he governor will not allow tier 6 employees to add any more than
$15,000 to their retirement benefits, and they will now have to go for the
last 5 years instead of 3. If I were a tier 6, I would tell the tier 5's
to stick their $50.00 they pay for the OT and start taking their share of
the OT, because it will all be ending when all the tier 5's retire.
July
2/14
Minetto Fire Chief
I asked a few weeks ago if anybody knew what was going on with Minetto's
Fire Chief well here you go.
Stole $20,000 from the fire department. I'm going to guess he possibly
stole more since he's being held with no bail. Coinsedently though he just
bought a piece of property behind his own for $20,000. Don't believe me?
Here's the property taxes. Coincident? You should take a drive by his
property to check it out. Constantly cars & trucks are being 'stored'
there and then disappear. Camper was there for a whole summer now that's
gone. I even seen the Minetto's fire truck pull up to his vacant property
hook on a utility trailer with all the fireman in it and take off. Now
Minetto Fire Dept has plenty of property to store at their station. Why
would they use his? I offend wondered why a property owner who only has
1/4 acre of grass need a 0 point turn lawn mower? Probably the fire
departments.
http://www.cnycentral.com/news/story.aspx?id=1064608
http://rptsweb.oswegocounty.com/propdetail.aspx?swis=353600&printkey=
16502000010300000000
July
2/14
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